I played Harry as truly repentant of his past and tried to stay sober. But needed to get drunk to help through a skill check and the guilt I felt when Kim found out I was drunk hurt on a deep level. Never has a game made me feel actual depression from the character I was playing
I think there is something to be applauded in those 'reviewers' who decided to play a narrative-driven CRPG game and publicly complain about having to read too many words. Imagine having the self-confidence to write such things and post them online for everyone else to see. That takes a lot proverbial balls! These people... Just... Wow.
They're just intimidated by the possibility they wrote as much words in their professional career as there are in this game but didn't write anything worthwhile
To be fair there are definitely a lot of games both eastern and western that are so wordy yet say absolutely nothing of substance. However, Disco Elysium is definitely not one of them, I’m excited for the expanded edition existing owners are getting as a free update.
This game is called a personality simulator for a reason. I actually learned more about myself, my feelings, thoughts and fantasy... Never thought a game could do that!
The fact that you're forced into one extreme political view VS another kind of took me out of it, since I didn't feel like any of the responses they offered me with regards to either ideology was something I would've bought into. You're generally shoehorned into being either a militant communist or an amoral capitalist, and then as Grimbeard mentioned, the game kind of makes fun of you for falling into either extreme, despite not really giving you another option besides complete indifference.
@@KyokujiFGC Either? There's 3 others you haven't mentioned, including a 'militant centrist'. They do make fun of you for any choice but I saw that as a comment on the character's current mindset and desperation to escape his pain by following ideology down to it's extreme conclusions. Is making fun of us playing a downside? I loved that about it.
I gotta do this for all the dyslexic people: sorry Grim Beard, but your opinion on whether or not it should have voice acting is factually incorrect. I haven't and will likely never play Disco E. because my dyslexia type makes reading legitimately physically painful, and time consuming. What might take you 10 seconds to read takes me 17+, which means that since time only progresses in dialogue, I'm permanently, in every playthrough, disadvantaged. Not to mention the anxiety that comes with that. While I may agree it shouldn't be required to be on, it should be an option, because having to use OCRs(on screen readers) for every moment of the game is honestly unplayable? Dyslexia exists and voice acting is literally its accessible option. Without audible, I would not read books. It's as simple as that. It's not an artistic thing, it's access. Love your stuff tho! Also while mods may exist that connect ocr into games, not every game has a modding scene, or have these mods.
"Upsettingly good" perfectly describes my feelings too- finishing it left me hollow, chasing the feelings it created like a drug. And I don't think any other game will reach Disco Elysium's level.
@@melancholyman369 thats a great game that is going to pale in comparison to this, especially without playing it through a number of times to see how great a job they truly did on giving you choices that are almost always reflected in the world in some way
@@AllfatherBlack not to me, rng is gambling without the losing money, and giving me nothing but dialogue is boring. Tho I do hope that games copy some the ideas the set down even tho it's highly unlikely
Iirc I died on several different occasions before even interacting with the guy in the tree. The first time with the ceiling fan is ha ha funny gimmick but I'm not gonna savescum every single interaction over the course of this entire fucking game. Haven't touched it since.
This game is so beautifully written that before watching this video I absolutely didn't realize that all I did in it was reading. This time the bitter ricompense was really bitter, made me sad. Wonderful video as always, I really love your style!
I see my boy Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau shaved and I immediately doubt you judgement altogether. Jokes aside this game deserves all the love it gets and more. Game is good one might say. Video not bad either ;)
Wow! If my friend was like, I need money to develop my video game passion project. Not only would I NOT sell my Ferrari, but I would remind him that I ate a bowl of plain rice for dinner.
I tought you were saying that you woudn't help him at all but then i understood that what you mean is that you don't have much money and a ferrari to begin with.
@@lovebunny2652 In defense of your initial assumption, Zuckerberg could easily own many Ferrari's, likely eats plain rice for dinner, and definitely doesn't understand the concepts of "helping" nor "friends".
Your frustration with writing in RPGs is so on the nose! DE ruined so many RPGs for me. I always think of how good the writing is in DE and so many games let me down story-wise now.
I actually really liked how you had such a differing opinion of Evrart from me. Where you see a guy getting shit done, I see senseless power grabbing. Where you see a guy guaranteeing benefits for his people, I see a guy strangeholding an entire neighborhood for the wealth of his personal clique. Where you see a guy who is open-handed and kind, I see a sneering manipulator who gives favors with the expectation of big returns. I don't think you're wrong in your assumption of Evrart, I think he's very noble in some areas, but the fact that you came to such a different conclusion from me about him while still going through the critical thinking to prove your statements about his character as logically strong speaks to the depth of the games writing and why its so much better than pretty much every game story on the market.
It's something you rarely see, in a sense it made me dislike Fallout New Vegas story a bit. FONV started to come off as overrated after this game, with the NCR and Legion feeling quite shallow upon an in-depth examination. Although I think this game just raised the bar for me more than anything.
@@JohnJohnson-fl2fr The game prefers communism, but criticizes it just as much as any of the other ideologies. To me it feels like the creators saw it as the best working of all the broken machines keeping us going
I absolutely love that the devs weren't afraid to make this game. It's not for everyone, and that's okay. We need more games that aren't afraid to be niche.
I didn't enjoy DE at all. I actually felt forced to play it through (I wanted to see it fully, cause of the hype around it). But I 100% agree with your statement. Not everything should be cast to the same mould.
I remember starting up the game and not understanding the game yet. MC died when he over exerted himself since he only got that One Point in that Body stat and he had a heart attack when he tried to get his tie from the ceiling fan. I knew it was something special right then.
I am not a gamer but I am a lover of game reviews in a long term relationship with a gamer who is still working his way through Disco Elysium. I am anxiously awaiting him finishing the game so that we can go over this review together.
@Wojciech Pordzik I agree with you. Some sort of combat would have been nice in disco elysium, or even the option to use ur weapon on who u want or something, true total control of your Character
Nothing about Disco is supposed to focus on combat, that's why there is none. I bet putting it in the game was never in their plans. There are physical checks, sure, and one 'fight' i'm aware of, but as you know the "builds" are actually the character's psyche, their entire psychological atributes and some of them are kinda characters themselves, talking to you and arguing with each other over what course of action you want to do next. It's totally a case of apples vs bananas but to me that concept alone is a thousand times more interesting than any kind of rpg builds. I hope this team makes more games like this, building up from that same idea.
@@tabernaclejones6115 I feel like combat would have ruined this game. The story has nothing to do with combat. I feel like them caving to people wanting combat would have made the game they set out to make, less effective at achieving their artistic goals for the project. There are thousands of games you can go play if you want combat. But there are very, very few games like disco elysium.
If there was a combat system it would most likely be pretty basic and not particularly satisfying. It'd also necessitate an already small team to take a bunch of resources away from the main focus of their game. One of the only complaints I hear about Planescape is the combat. I've haven't played it yet but I assume from what I've heard that it might have been better off ditching the it entirely. Even if it turns a lot of people off of the game some experiences are best without certain systems. It"s like putting long ass dialogue trees in a Call of Duty campaign.
Strange you only mentioned the entire arc about proto techno once with one sentence, personally I was fixated on it for days. And the entire church with the sphere, coolest thing I experienced at the time.
Not at all. From the very start, Having that debate in your head whether you should wake up or go back into the void is something I have to wrestle with every morning,
One point I like about the "ex-wife" part of the story in the game - there is a certain inclination that it might not be all self-indulgent phantasy of the main character. There are certain tidbits dropped about the Goddess character is viewing his ex as actually having an equally omnipotent husband. Husband that we learn much less about, yet that shares certain characteristics with our quite unfortunate protagonist. So there is definitely that implication that this whole dream sequence at the end is merely a figment of imagination, version protagonist wants to believe. After all, we can call the ex through quite real landline and have a proper nothing-out-of-ordinary awkward dialogue about past relations. But there still lingers that small possibility that there is a lot more to this. Especially if you put together some of the more provocative scenes, like having the dialogue with the embodiment of the City itself due to dancing too hard in the Church. City pointing out that protagonist's role is quite a lot bigger in the whole story, past and future, than he would like it to be.
Here from current day The Final Cut is a fantastic experience and all the voices add so much to the game. There's something to be said for experiencing some of it in silence but IMO that gets vastly outweighed by the wonderful performance pretty much every VA gives, and being able to rely on your ears over pure reading I'd imagine makes it more accessible by people who are less a fan of books. The one thing I'd add is don't be afraid to save-scum one or twice. DO NOT do it constantly, failure is 100% part of the experience, but if you've exhausted every other avenue and feel you're actually stuck don't feel bad. The game will just be happy it keeps being played.
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This game is one of the best written games I have ever played. Planescape torment had a stronger plot, but the writing here is much more powerful for me - so human, so fun, so sobering, so creative - I almost never gets touched by writing, but man, this game stabbed me right in the feels, so many times. Must be on my top 5 of all time at least...
@@GrimBeard I have never felt more called out by a game. The socialism ideals, the synths and electronics music, trying to make something new. The nihilism and falling into the void. The whole thing. Read me like a fuckin book.
My read on the parodic political lines (27:20) is that they critique ideologies in general. You can't build an entire personality for yourself by blindly adhering to one political outlook or another. And if you try, you become a parody of what you intended to be. In any case, thrilled to see you cover this game! Best writing to come along in a video game in a long time.
When Klaasje's influence on you literally starts influencing almost every single one of your skills except volition (I think) was one of the greatest things I ever experienced. I only experienced this in my 2nd playthrough with different stats sense I pretty much ignored that skill in my first playthrough I didn't even know I was getting played the whole time!! This is currently my favorite storybased game, I can't wait for the final cut, and also one day we will teach "hardcore gamers" to read so they will no longer dislike games because reading=bad but bang bang stab stab=good.
I loved that moment, where Volition starts shit talking about all the other skills, forcing you to realize that you had been played like a fiddle the entire time. A great moment for me playing the game, where the very mechanics I had been relying on had secretly been leading me astray.
I finally played this game, it's true that it's a long game and requires you to engage with its characters and ideas, so is not something you can pickup on a whim and play through it in a couple of days. But that's to be celebrated, and I understand that some people won't like the ideas or simply the amount of reading to be done, but the fact that they're not willing to engage with the ideas or the amount of reading already tells me a lot about who they are. I've personally never felt so many emotions while playing a game, it has been a journey and a much more memorable experience than 99 % of what I've played. Great review.
I don't get all the hubbub about this game. My version didn't look or play anything like shown here in the video so it's pretty weird. I put in about 10 hours and just couldn't look a blank display any longer. Terrible graphics and gameplay, game wouldn't run on my high-powered shoebox monitor. My actual PC is made outta leaves. My rig is biodegradable and 100% recyclable! It's fed rich nutrients thought it's root tubes. This baby is fully grounded! Most games seem to play just like this one, though, so maybe video games just aren't my thing. (I've actually never played but seemed a joke was needed before admitting being a console gamer. Last time I divulged this a PC kicked me right in the junk)
@Disposable Email That's a great point. I have an Xbox One S, and Game Pass is already providing a ton of choices I have no hope of keeping up with. I'm not entirely sure what I was on about in my old comment but I certainly was high when I posted it. These days I don't partake much so even just a little can go a LONG way.
Hi, just wanted to chime in and say as someone who actually doesn't enjoy reading books (if I say I've read something it means I listened to it via audiobook) I really enjoyed the final cut of disco elysium. I can't think of any instance where someone didn't sound like a perfect fit for the person they were playing.
Rewatching this just made me heartbroken after finding out the top heads of the studio have cancelled every single of the upcoming projects announced and have effectively destroyed the team behind this game, and now we will never see anything like this ever again. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised after seeing Baldurs gate 3 win every award and make all the money and immediately the company behind dnd laid off a bunch of its staff, art is dying and we all just frozen watching it happen
I sometimes wish I could play games like this. But I need my tight controls, jumping, slashing and pew pew to get it on. That is one of the reasons I love channels like this though. Good vid.
Liking and commenting for the algorithms... But I must abstain from viewing until I play the game. Usually I don't care about spoilers and stuff. But I know this is a game I'm gonna wanna go into fairly blind.
I was a play tester for the post released version of this game. Interestingly, there were not much issues with it, it is a solid piece of engineering. Honestly i found it hard to do my job properly. Once you get into the story, you get really lost and stuck in the world so i was more playing it in full details in order to check the "localisation and audio" then anything else XD It gave me real emotions, that sucked and is not a normal occurrence for me, but i figured that is what the devs wanted... ;) Reptilian brain guy has one of the most awesome voices i have ever seen. Anyways, i stalked around and hid the body in the fridge. Then i played the game and kicked a racist in his stupid head... I can understand why some people find it boring, i personally don't like games without active combat and probably would not have given it a chance if it was not my job at a time. It is a good thing i was kind of obligated into it and i think it is one of the warmest and most private and sad stories ever told. On the other hand, i am a Slav and we love our comedic depression simulators! XD
For too long games have tried to emulate films as if the movies are the pinnacle of artistic expression. Games, gamers and gaming have always had this inferiority complex regarding the medium. But, as it turned out, games-as-movies wound up ploughing the same shitty field as cinema...money above all else, lowest common denominator, throw-away content. Games-as-literature seem to work out better. Sure, they don't make millions, they get shit on by gamers who think gaming is a dexterous activity which starts and ends at the fingers. But for some of us, games like this mean more than a good K/D ever will, because the things we feel and learn are applicable outside of gaming, in the real world, inside ourselves. I discussed my experience of this game with other people online and none of them called me a faggot, or attempted to apply a gross misreading of darwinism to my existence. It was refreshing. I realised that I'm done with paying a hundred dollars just for the experience of killing imaginary people, while a maladjusted twelve year old threatens to rape my family via chat. The little fucker didn't even elaborate when I questioned his proposed method. He just said he had a roadmap. All that hype, and nothing happened. I've been gaming for 30 years, been literate for slightly longer. This game affected me as if it were a woman. I still think about it, two years after I last played. And when I reflect on it, I cant help but reflect on myself. It's really rather good
@@carlpotter1926 That last part of your reply got me, not gonna lie! I am generally chill so things don't really get to me but this one hurt. It is weird how the game translates well to match the players personality, I felt shame when fucking up and sadness at the end. I generally cared for some characters, even to the point of save scuming, just to keep them safe. Honestly, I love single player games (and rarely play mp) but if it was not mu job, I would probably never have tried Disco. After playtesting it for a month I started looking for more games like it (that is more open RPGs...). I still like survival games more but I played a bunch or RPGs as well. Also, a road map to fucking your family is comedy gold XD
@@rexrip1080 I am jealous that you were so closely involved with the game. Play testers generally get treated badly, especially by AAA producers, but I hope your experience was different. As for the joke I made...I was doing my usual thing of trying to be funny because I felt I'd made myself vulnerable with the rest of my comment. Weird how making people laugh is a gentle form of coercion. The fact that you, and the devs are slavic is way more pertinent than it first seems, I think. People criticize the game for being nihilistic or depressing, or too 'socialist'. But I think it's easy in America and Western Europe to forget that the slavs have lived through and survived the ideologies which were thrust upon them. You've watched your ideologies die, ours just got better at lying to us and we cling to it because we have literally no alternative ideas. Nihilism isn't the disappearance of ideology, it is the reappearance of humanity. Honestly, the last time I felt so affected by artistic creation was when I first read Dostoevsky. And it took me two attempts to play the game before I could do it honestly, without doing what I thought the game wanted. I'd stop playing, go to work, and then have an argument in my head with something a character had said to me three hours earlier. Then I'd rush home after work to 'get closure', as the Americans say. The fact that a game can do this, and the fact that so many people have similar experiences is beautiful to me, even as it exposes so much of my reality as a fraud...I am not a unique and special individual, who deserves everything and who's pain, love and reality is much more painful, lovely and real than anyone else's. What I'm saying in my usual self- indulgent way, is that I felt different after playing and engaging with other people who played. No longer certain of myself, but also no longer alone in my certainty. You apparently played a part in helping me feel that, so I thank you. Genuinely.
@@carlpotter1926 We worked with some AAA companies but there were a lot of indie companies as well, it was a balanced diet. The pay was shit but the office and interactions with devs were generally stellar so I can't say I had any of the typical problems that you see reported on. Most of the devs were good people and treated us well. Ubi people were dicks... I am a level designer and I just skip them when I am looking for work... I think being Slavic only helped because most of our media is a combo of comedy and tragedy so the theme of the game got me good. If you look at a few of our movies (both Balkans, Ukraine and Russia), you will see the same pattern: Someone is doing something funny and then they die of tuberculosis or something like that. Then its happy and then someone dies again XD Also, if you have not tried, play the game with high Shivers. Take Visual calculator as secondary. Then walk the streets and see the past, present and future! Also save spam to kick a racist in the face, I once got lucky and got a crit on a first try on really small physical instrument skill, guess my actual will to kick him translated to the game XD The game changes everyone I think, it makes you feel warm and then hits you over the head with a club like a baby seal. It made me not trust people! Also to take mushrooms so I can do a shivers build irl XD All kidding aside, this talk kind of hyped me up, it's time to replay the game again. It is nice to remember some of the fan parts of working that job as well. Thanks man!
I've seen a few, but they were either modern 'shock ' films ie. Nightwatch/ Daywatch, Serbian film etc or old artistic films like Solaris or Battleship Potemkin. To be candid, my interest in Slavic art stems from a relationship with a Ukrainian girl and my inability to connect with her on a soulful level. She once told me that smiling made me look like I was 'mentally deficient'. Since then, I've wondered how the slavic mind works. In the 'West', we easily judge reality through ideology.for you guys, ex Soviet, post-glasnost etc, ideology must seem absurd. I dont wish to suck at your brain, so I will leave you in peace. But I feel good about connecting and talking to you, whoever you are. And I will think about your words and treat them with reverence. Just know that, in our small communication, I felt a feeling of value, of talking to a person. I wish you well, I hope you keep doing things that send a wave around the world. When all this money grabbing industry shit eats itself, it is the likes of you who will be remembered. Take it easy, stranger
Thank you for reviewing my favourite game. I only played the re-voiced edition and found no faults. Also Felix from Chapo is a... um, somewhat grating voice presence, as he himself admits, so definitely an improvement. Bravo!
When I saw the collection of negative reviews, I thought "Huh, so this game also put up a mirror even for people who didn't like it. It compelled them enough to have them show their thoughts on the reviews page. Amazing!"
Best game ever! The opening sequence stumbling downstairs and the conversations with the manager had me in tears with laughter. Enjoyed the dark parts as well, overall the whole experience was revelatory.
Based on the controversy with the attempted rights theft, I thought the game only came out in 2022. Also, the poorly written reviews explain themselves by the fact that the majority of them criticize the very act of reading.
"Sometimes games are good." It's a shame that it's maybe 1 in 2077 that are though, what a waste of the programmer's, developers, and players lives. Our civilisation will be remembered for the waste it produced and opportunities it squandered, maybe this is why Revachol feels so uncomfortably familiar.
I would watch Grim play through this game I’d happily watch fir hrs on end and like and comment on each episode. I’m not even ashamed to say it. You should do this the grimportence of being idle. Do it. Disco Grimlysium
Disco Elysium was so good. Especially since I played the final cut, the voice acting is just... phenomenal. I hate that I now HAVE to compare every other game to it and that I can never play it for the first time again.
the best part about this game is that failure in *most* situations doesn't actually fail or end, but just gives you an alternate route(and sometimes a reward?). i thought id miss kitsuragi....but im glad my moron cop literally threw the gun at the guy after missing the shot. shoulda gave cuno more mention, the lil prick
I spent about two weeks playing through this. I would wake up early before work, smoke some weed, lie down in bed and play with my controller on PC and just get lost in the world and story. Truly one of the best world settings and writings I’ve ever experienced in a game.
disco elysium was a beautiful thing released at the perfect time that cannot be replicated due to the path of the industry and culture that moves more and more pass the cooments you read in one playthought i discover if you play a racist you discover lena worst secrets and in other i contacted an airship, theres so much secrets if you play different skills and accept the randomness of events, if you reload and succed in all you block from events that unlock if you fail certain things. that acceptabce of chaos and still going on made me realize of one of the song harry listens to "life gets hard but we go ooon" and that stuck with me thats in part the message of the game and i found more symbols of it, thanks for the video i will now ramble avoid all the meaning i found the description of innocences is the best mocking of both religious and enligthment figures since that rethoric of the great man is trashed when is put before the "they only accelerated things that would had happened anyway" not for nothing dolores had the lungs of fire as depiction since the lungs is what process the source of life, air, but they don't produce it, in the same way that she was imposing the rules of life, of the new order, the fundamentals of the moralitmen that rule the world with her civilizacing and the fire of her armies, regulating it but not being able to define it to their pleasure. is not coincidence that the phasmid is on martinese and on the island that as joyce mentions doesn't had bloodshed during the conquest because there was no man there, in other words, was never civilized, and on the specific archipelago were the soldiers never accepted defeat. The event on the island with the phasmid and the real last communist not being able to see it has for me different symbolism, him clearly blinded by hate and ideology at the past to the point of repeating several times that he is an ideological officer, his position is due to the injustices and the cruel reality of the world after "history ended", that supression of colective will that he could not retaliate against drove him to the point of not having joy or being able to let others have joy like his hate for the girl enjoying with the merc or the brothers for not changing things immediately even if they clearly had the strike plan for years in the making to expropriate the port. in the exact moment when you are forced to see what appears a depressing description of a permanent reality by him you see the phasmid, a magical moment that shouldn't exist, a proof that surprises still occur that his analysis is fault that "life gets hard but we go oonnn, baby" a proof of the wonders of life that can still be experienced no matter how fucked it is, or put in philosophical terms harry faces the Nietzschean last man in that last communist living by choice alone, in hate, exile and misery. harry with his lost memory, is like the phasmids, doesn't have a reason for hate, he is able to experience the world without the bonds of morality, of history or shame he experiences joy and anger, experimentation and defeat until ot completes the journey to become the übermensch when he manages to talk to the phasmid, other being with similar conditions to harry current life, that event with him only being able to talk to the creature since kim can't listen the conversation for me was a methapor that one needs to let behind the past and the hate its consequences cause and act with joy, only that way one can overcome everything no matter from what side it comes, is not coincidence that those like mañana and gaston who are the most joyful and non align but neither centrist figures share the same technic and lighting in their portrait paintings that the phasmid does. the message was clear that we need to move on, to embrace life and to find new ways to struggle and face the injustices of moralitmen because otherwise we end like that deserster on the island.,Another proof of this is that if you directly antagonize joyce with mazovian rethoric and not help evart because you consider him a revisionist you miss the only path to convince joyce to surrender the port to the workers union, if one gets fixated on the past and rescenment one loses the opportunity for the future, to avoid what will be a losing war against the company and help the workers. the conditions for change are always there because life is change itself, but that movement for change cannot be any of the ideas of the past, none of them had the might necessary to defeat the moralitmen airships or artillery in past and they have far less now, it also cannot be inaction. it needs to be what harry becomes when it loses his identity, past, memory, moralism and experiences, life without preconceived ideas, with childlike wonder. a new kind of man. a übermench
Not every game is for everyone, I get that. I also don't hardly ever comment on anything, much less read other people's comments. I think we should all keep that shit to ourselves far more often, or like, talk to actual people you know about it. I say all this to say, what the actual fuck. Who doesn't like this game!? It's... Nearly perfect. Whatever, I loved it and appreciate your review. I had a brand new experience watching this review that I've never had, which was getting so angry at bad reviews that I had to smoke a cigarette to finish the video. Hahaha so thanks for that. Keep up the good work. You're hilarious.
One thing I didn't like is if you internalize (AKA, "save" an idea) then the game treats it like everyone knows. I internalized things because I wanted to learn more about it or have that idea for a later interaction. And yes, I know what internalize means. I just wish they had another decision whether to go with it or not and that no one actually knows what you picked unless you tell them
To answer your (rhetorical?) question as to why Evrart was portrayed as super corrupt and sleazy as fuck is because powerful people in socialist nations tend to be super corrupt and sleazy as fuck. What a surprise. Sincerely, a bloke who was born in a formerly (and most recently, yet again in all but name) socialist Eastern European country.
English is not my first language and playing this game really makes my brain wants to explode. I'm still in the earlier chapter of this game, and so far Disco Elysium is very beautiful game, but I do really need the mood to continue the game, because it's hard for me to process the story. It's very complicated to me
This game..like this channels is among my top 3 factoring games/channels of ALL time at my 34 years of pitiful life. However ..i can totaly understand every single of those bitter commenters. They are right...and wrong at the same time. Its all about the angle you ll see this game. For me its a golden faking gem in my lizard brain 🧠 🦎
Never thought I’d watch a review of any game & end up hearing the reviewer talk about SikTh, play Mermaid Slur & Part of the Friction, & discuss Mikee Goodman’s poetry/voice. Beautiful stuff & immensely fun music to play. Keep being you.
Darkwood and this. Two insanely well done games I played thanks to you. Also your videos are weirdly effective in treating hangover. Happy New Year Grim!
This is the best game I didn't like, and when you said it was a game about failure and failed things, I understood why. As a failure myself I don't like being reminded of it. 10/10 TL:DR.
I played Harry as truly repentant of his past and tried to stay sober. But needed to get drunk to help through a skill check and the guilt I felt when Kim found out I was drunk hurt on a deep level. Never has a game made me feel actual depression from the character I was playing
I think there is something to be applauded in those 'reviewers' who decided to play a narrative-driven CRPG game and publicly complain about having to read too many words. Imagine having the self-confidence to write such things and post them online for everyone else to see. That takes a lot proverbial balls! These people... Just... Wow.
They're just intimidated by the possibility they wrote as much words in their professional career as there are in this game but didn't write anything worthwhile
To be fair there are definitely a lot of games both eastern and western that are so wordy yet say absolutely nothing of substance. However, Disco Elysium is definitely not one of them, I’m excited for the expanded edition existing owners are getting as a free update.
"Looks like it was made in 1998.
I'm a Gamer, not a reader.
Absolute garbage.
10/10
There's a little something for everyone"
Yeah, it's a visual medium. Some things need to be conveyed through like animations and shit
They are just smart enough to get that they don't get it but just dumb enough that they think they can convince the rest of us that they do😁
This game is called a personality simulator for a reason. I actually learned more about myself, my feelings, thoughts and fantasy... Never thought a game could do that!
The fact that you're forced into one extreme political view VS another kind of took me out of it, since I didn't feel like any of the responses they offered me with regards to either ideology was something I would've bought into. You're generally shoehorned into being either a militant communist or an amoral capitalist, and then as Grimbeard mentioned, the game kind of makes fun of you for falling into either extreme, despite not really giving you another option besides complete indifference.
@@KyokujiFGC Either? There's 3 others you haven't mentioned, including a 'militant centrist'. They do make fun of you for any choice but I saw that as a comment on the character's current mindset and desperation to escape his pain by following ideology down to it's extreme conclusions. Is making fun of us playing a downside? I loved that about it.
I am sorry cop.
Inland Empire is such an amazing skill in respect to the Cooper analysis. It’s literally named after a Lynch movie.
This is such a great insight, I had no idea he wrote and directed that.
I gotta do this for all the dyslexic people: sorry Grim Beard, but your opinion on whether or not it should have voice acting is factually incorrect.
I haven't and will likely never play Disco E. because my dyslexia type makes reading legitimately physically painful, and time consuming. What might take you 10 seconds to read takes me 17+, which means that since time only progresses in dialogue, I'm permanently, in every playthrough, disadvantaged. Not to mention the anxiety that comes with that.
While I may agree it shouldn't be required to be on, it should be an option, because having to use OCRs(on screen readers) for every moment of the game is honestly unplayable? Dyslexia exists and voice acting is literally its accessible option. Without audible, I would not read books. It's as simple as that.
It's not an artistic thing, it's access. Love your stuff tho!
Also while mods may exist that connect ocr into games, not every game has a modding scene, or have these mods.
"Upsettingly good" perfectly describes my feelings too- finishing it left me hollow, chasing the feelings it created like a drug. And I don't think any other game will reach Disco Elysium's level.
Absolutely.
Fallout New Vegas...your welcome
had the unique of experience of wanting this to be my favorite game ever and then it was
@@melancholyman369 thats a great game that is going to pale in comparison to this, especially without playing it through a number of times to see how great a job they truly did on giving you choices that are almost always reflected in the world in some way
@@AllfatherBlack not to me, rng is gambling without the losing money, and giving me nothing but dialogue is boring. Tho I do hope that games copy some the ideas the set down even tho it's highly unlikely
Died in the first minute from a heart attack while trying to grab the tie from the fan. 10/10
Iirc I died on several different occasions before even interacting with the guy in the tree. The first time with the ceiling fan is ha ha funny gimmick but I'm not gonna savescum every single interaction over the course of this entire fucking game. Haven't touched it since.
@@DjeveldyrkerI've been playing it for a day straight and haven't died. Maybe try not to die?
There is a specter haunting the Goth Gamer Nation...
The specter of Gaymerism
As per usual
Supranatural...
This game is so beautifully written that before watching this video I absolutely didn't realize that all I did in it was reading.
This time the bitter ricompense was really bitter, made me sad. Wonderful video as always, I really love your style!
BRB leaving obtuse game reviews to get into a Grim Beard video.
The Bitter Recompense industry has been going downhill lately
"Sometimes games are good, here is the video!"
I'm dying.
You’re doing it wrong. gAmE iS gOoD!
An hour long Grimbeard vid about Disco Elysium holy fuck yes
Oh my... Fuck yes, the almost feature film length video about this fucking cool game from a fucking cool guy!
Hell yeah, dood!
Let's face it, with a game as deep as this it was bound to have a runtime this great :)
I see my boy Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau shaved and I immediately doubt you judgement altogether.
Jokes aside this game deserves all the love it gets and more. Game is good one might say. Video not bad either ;)
Wow! If my friend was like, I need money to develop my video game passion project. Not only would I NOT sell my Ferrari, but I would remind him that I ate a bowl of plain rice for dinner.
you should get cooler friends
What a bad friend you are.
I tought you were saying that you woudn't help him at all but then i understood that what you mean is that you don't have much money and a ferrari to begin with.
@@lovebunny2652 this is possible yeah
@@lovebunny2652 In defense of your initial assumption, Zuckerberg could easily own many Ferrari's, likely eats plain rice for dinner, and definitely doesn't understand the concepts of "helping" nor "friends".
Your frustration with writing in RPGs is so on the nose! DE ruined so many RPGs for me. I always think of how good the writing is in DE and so many games let me down story-wise now.
I actually really liked how you had such a differing opinion of Evrart from me. Where you see a guy getting shit done, I see senseless power grabbing. Where you see a guy guaranteeing benefits for his people, I see a guy strangeholding an entire neighborhood for the wealth of his personal clique. Where you see a guy who is open-handed and kind, I see a sneering manipulator who gives favors with the expectation of big returns. I don't think you're wrong in your assumption of Evrart, I think he's very noble in some areas, but the fact that you came to such a different conclusion from me about him while still going through the critical thinking to prove your statements about his character as logically strong speaks to the depth of the games writing and why its so much better than pretty much every game story on the market.
the game literally says that and implies it but his commie brain is rotten now unfortunately
@@adel885 edgy
It's something you rarely see, in a sense it made me dislike Fallout New Vegas story a bit. FONV started to come off as overrated after this game, with the NCR and Legion feeling quite shallow upon an in-depth examination. Although I think this game just raised the bar for me more than anything.
This game isn’t “open ended” it assumes the truth that communism is the way, but it’s also a test for whether or not you should be in a gulag
@@JohnJohnson-fl2fr The game prefers communism, but criticizes it just as much as any of the other ideologies. To me it feels like the creators saw it as the best working of all the broken machines keeping us going
I absolutely love that the devs weren't afraid to make this game. It's not for everyone, and that's okay. We need more games that aren't afraid to be niche.
You're absolutely right. However the only people this game isn't for is cowards.
I didn't enjoy DE at all. I actually felt forced to play it through (I wanted to see it fully, cause of the hype around it). But I 100% agree with your statement. Not everything should be cast to the same mould.
I remember starting up the game and not understanding the game yet.
MC died when he over exerted himself since he only got that One Point in that Body stat and he had a heart attack when he tried to get his tie from the ceiling fan.
I knew it was something special right then.
I am not a gamer but I am a lover of game reviews in a long term relationship with a gamer who is still working his way through Disco Elysium. I am anxiously awaiting him finishing the game so that we can go over this review together.
"Reading Simulator 2020" Strong words from someone who never faced Planescape Torment
@Wojciech Pordzik I agree with you. Some sort of combat would have been nice in disco elysium, or even the option to use ur weapon on who u want or something, true total control of your Character
@Wojciech Pordzik yeah. Something like baldurs Gate or fallout 2 even.
Nothing about Disco is supposed to focus on combat, that's why there is none. I bet putting it in the game was never in their plans. There are physical checks, sure, and one 'fight' i'm aware of, but as you know the "builds" are actually the character's psyche, their entire psychological atributes and some of them are kinda characters themselves, talking to you and arguing with each other over what course of action you want to do next. It's totally a case of apples vs bananas but to me that concept alone is a thousand times more interesting than any kind of rpg builds. I hope this team makes more games like this, building up from that same idea.
@@tabernaclejones6115 I feel like combat would have ruined this game. The story has nothing to do with combat. I feel like them caving to people wanting combat would have made the game they set out to make, less effective at achieving their artistic goals for the project. There are thousands of games you can go play if you want combat. But there are very, very few games like disco elysium.
If there was a combat system it would most likely be pretty basic and not particularly satisfying. It'd also necessitate an already small team to take a bunch of resources away from the main focus of their game. One of the only complaints I hear about Planescape is the combat. I've haven't played it yet but I assume from what I've heard that it might have been better off ditching the it entirely. Even if it turns a lot of people off of the game some experiences are best without certain systems. It"s like putting long ass dialogue trees in a Call of Duty campaign.
Strange you only mentioned the entire arc about proto techno once with one sentence, personally I was fixated on it for days. And the entire church with the sphere, coolest thing I experienced at the time.
It might sound pretentious, but I felt like this game spoke to me on an intimate level.
That's what a well written work of art can do to you
It spoke to me so well, that I legit almost experienced panic attack at one point of the story and still have to beat it. No game ever did that to me.
I only felt that with Zero Escape Virtues Last Reward..with one of the "endings"...Not even Jupiter can hide..
@@elidasilva5558 shut up old geezer
Not at all. From the very start, Having that debate in your head whether you should wake up or go back into the void is something I have to wrestle with every morning,
Thot cabinet. Great joke.
One point I like about the "ex-wife" part of the story in the game - there is a certain inclination that it might not be all self-indulgent phantasy of the main character. There are certain tidbits dropped about the Goddess character is viewing his ex as actually having an equally omnipotent husband. Husband that we learn much less about, yet that shares certain characteristics with our quite unfortunate protagonist. So there is definitely that implication that this whole dream sequence at the end is merely a figment of imagination, version protagonist wants to believe. After all, we can call the ex through quite real landline and have a proper nothing-out-of-ordinary awkward dialogue about past relations. But there still lingers that small possibility that there is a lot more to this. Especially if you put together some of the more provocative scenes, like having the dialogue with the embodiment of the City itself due to dancing too hard in the Church. City pointing out that protagonist's role is quite a lot bigger in the whole story, past and future, than he would like it to be.
Aaaaa! A game from my country!
YOUR VIDEOS GOT ME THROUGH A 10 HOUR SHIFT AT WORK! IM GLAD I FOUND YOUR CHANNEL. DO NOT STOP.
Here from current day
The Final Cut is a fantastic experience and all the voices add so much to the game. There's something to be said for experiencing some of it in silence but IMO that gets vastly outweighed by the wonderful performance pretty much every VA gives, and being able to rely on your ears over pure reading I'd imagine makes it more accessible by people who are less a fan of books.
The one thing I'd add is don't be afraid to save-scum one or twice. DO NOT do it constantly, failure is 100% part of the experience, but if you've exhausted every other avenue and feel you're actually stuck don't feel bad. The game will just be happy it keeps being played.
Dude, your shit is really really good.
i always hated the whole " if you want a story in a video game read a book." argument. it's the most dismissive thing i have ever heard/
Thanks Grim, you covering Disco Elysium is something I've dreamed of.
Man bitter recompense made me sad
'There is a thing called nuance.' Gives the game a 1. Nice job buddy
This game was the most moving piece of media i have experienced since my heart went cold at age 4, seeing this review of it was the second most
Imagine not commenting: ""“Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “TH-cam is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "BOOBS" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “TH-cam is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "PogChamp" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Halo" "Devil may cry" “TH-cam is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” “Cocomelon” “t series” “Minecraft" "ASMR" "straponsexisfun" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “TH-cam is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “TH-cam is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Halo" "Devil may cry" “TH-cam is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” “Cocomelon” “t series”
Thats what you drank milk out of in America in School? Yuck lol
It's not standardized. I grew up in the US and I've never seen one of those in person.
ENGAGE!
Nokia Ngage?
@@judas_physicist Certainly!
This has got to be the newest game you've reviewed
and it's the newest video he's posted.....coincidence??
@@RoboBoddicker It's actually the oldest video he's posted.
"they become really reactionary and defensive, like the entire conceit of this segment." ... bro your humor is so understated. I can't get enough :)
"fartbox"
This is a perfect timing, was just about to open my 40!
Praise be the Grimbeard. Cheers.
This game is one of the best written games I have ever played. Planescape torment had a stronger plot, but the writing here is much more powerful for me - so human, so fun, so sobering, so creative - I almost never gets touched by writing, but man, this game stabbed me right in the feels, so many times. Must be on my top 5 of all time at least...
Circumlocutory is a word only used by the circumlocutory
Game is good
haaaa didnt finish it. but i loved it, so i cant watch your review. crap crap crap
"maybe that's just me self-inserting and being Red by the game"
nice
:O
@@GrimBeard ФwФ
@@GrimBeard I have never felt more called out by a game. The socialism ideals, the synths and electronics music, trying to make something new. The nihilism and falling into the void. The whole thing. Read me like a fuckin book.
My read on the parodic political lines (27:20) is that they critique ideologies in general. You can't build an entire personality for yourself by blindly adhering to one political outlook or another. And if you try, you become a parody of what you intended to be. In any case, thrilled to see you cover this game! Best writing to come along in a video game in a long time.
When Klaasje's influence on you literally starts influencing almost every single one of your skills except volition (I think) was one of the greatest things I ever experienced.
I only experienced this in my 2nd playthrough with different stats sense I pretty much ignored that skill in my first playthrough I didn't even know I was getting played the whole time!!
This is currently my favorite storybased game, I can't wait for the final cut, and also one day we will teach "hardcore gamers" to read so they will no longer dislike games because reading=bad but bang bang stab stab=good.
I loved that moment, where Volition starts shit talking about all the other skills, forcing you to realize that you had been played like a fiddle the entire time. A great moment for me playing the game, where the very mechanics I had been relying on had secretly been leading me astray.
I finally played this game, it's true that it's a long game and requires you to engage with its characters and ideas, so is not something you can pickup on a whim and play through it in a couple of days. But that's to be celebrated, and I understand that some people won't like the ideas or simply the amount of reading to be done, but the fact that they're not willing to engage with the ideas or the amount of reading already tells me a lot about who they are.
I've personally never felt so many emotions while playing a game, it has been a journey and a much more memorable experience than 99 % of what I've played.
Great review.
HARDCORE TO THE MEGA
I don't get all the hubbub about this game. My version didn't look or play anything like shown here in the video so it's pretty weird. I put in about 10 hours and just couldn't look a blank display any longer. Terrible graphics and gameplay, game wouldn't run on my high-powered shoebox monitor. My actual PC is made outta leaves. My rig is biodegradable and 100% recyclable! It's fed rich nutrients thought it's root tubes. This baby is fully grounded! Most games seem to play just like this one, though, so maybe video games just aren't my thing.
(I've actually never played but seemed a joke was needed before admitting being a console gamer. Last time I divulged this a PC kicked me right in the junk)
@Disposable Email That's a great point. I have an Xbox One S, and Game Pass is already providing a ton of choices I have no hope of keeping up with. I'm not entirely sure what I was on about in my old comment but I certainly was high when I posted it. These days I don't partake much so even just a little can go a LONG way.
first game i ever found myself raising my index finger to my temple whilst my fingers rested accross my lips as I absorbed the dialog.
I think the game is beautiful, funny, poignant, intelligent...I could go on and on. I am glad it won awards. Thanks for the amazing review.
hell yea dood!
Divinity Original Sin's use of a narrator makes me tentatively hopeful for how a fully voices Disco Elysium could be
I come, from the future, they did a really fuckin good job with the narratior voice acting. It sounds and feels amazing.
Hi, just wanted to chime in and say as someone who actually doesn't enjoy reading books (if I say I've read something it means I listened to it via audiobook) I really enjoyed the final cut of disco elysium. I can't think of any instance where someone didn't sound like a perfect fit for the person they were playing.
Rewatching this just made me heartbroken after finding out the top heads of the studio have cancelled every single of the upcoming projects announced and have effectively destroyed the team behind this game, and now we will never see anything like this ever again.
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised after seeing Baldurs gate 3 win every award and make all the money and immediately the company behind dnd laid off a bunch of its staff, art is dying and we all just frozen watching it happen
I sometimes wish I could play games like this. But I need my tight controls, jumping, slashing and pew pew to get it on. That is one of the reasons I love channels like this though. Good vid.
You sound really boring.
@@Largentina. That's ok, I have other things going for me ^^
I am not goth, gamer, nor nation. I do enjoy these videos, though.
Liking and commenting for the algorithms... But I must abstain from viewing until I play the game. Usually I don't care about spoilers and stuff. But I know this is a game I'm gonna wanna go into fairly blind.
I have never been more hyped than I am to watch this video
This video was so good it didn't even feel like an hour long.
This is my comfort media 😂 I love it
Game is good. Game is, good.
ONE minute ago?! One of few videos I'll have to skip spoilers on, however much I like hearing about the stories.
I had to do the same for this game, totally worth it
Engage comment like
The goth king has delivered
Just played the game, almost definitely the best game I've ever played. I'm in love it with it and might go read the translation of the book.
I was a play tester for the post released version of this game. Interestingly, there were not much issues with it, it is a solid piece of engineering. Honestly i found it hard to do my job properly. Once you get into the story, you get really lost and stuck in the world so i was more playing it in full details in order to check the "localisation and audio" then anything else XD It gave me real emotions, that sucked and is not a normal occurrence for me, but i figured that is what the devs wanted... ;) Reptilian brain guy has one of the most awesome voices i have ever seen. Anyways, i stalked around and hid the body in the fridge. Then i played the game and kicked a racist in his stupid head... I can understand why some people find it boring, i personally don't like games without active combat and probably would not have given it a chance if it was not my job at a time. It is a good thing i was kind of obligated into it and i think it is one of the warmest and most private and sad stories ever told. On the other hand, i am a Slav and we love our comedic depression simulators! XD
For too long games have tried to emulate films as if the movies are the pinnacle of artistic expression. Games, gamers and gaming have always had this inferiority complex regarding the medium.
But, as it turned out, games-as-movies wound up ploughing the same shitty field as cinema...money above all else, lowest common denominator, throw-away content.
Games-as-literature seem to work out better.
Sure, they don't make millions, they get shit on by gamers who think gaming is a dexterous activity which starts and ends at the fingers.
But for some of us, games like this mean more than a good K/D ever will, because the things we feel and learn are applicable outside of gaming, in the real world, inside ourselves.
I discussed my experience of this game with other people online and none of them called me a faggot, or attempted to apply a gross misreading of darwinism to my existence.
It was refreshing.
I realised that I'm done with paying a hundred dollars just for the experience of killing imaginary people, while a maladjusted twelve year old threatens to rape my family via chat.
The little fucker didn't even elaborate when I questioned his proposed method. He just said he had a roadmap.
All that hype, and nothing happened.
I've been gaming for 30 years, been literate for slightly longer. This game affected me as if it were a woman.
I still think about it, two years after I last played. And when I reflect on it, I cant help but reflect on myself.
It's really rather good
@@carlpotter1926 That last part of your reply got me, not gonna lie! I am generally chill so things don't really get to me but this one hurt. It is weird how the game translates well to match the players personality, I felt shame when fucking up and sadness at the end. I generally cared for some characters, even to the point of save scuming, just to keep them safe. Honestly, I love single player games (and rarely play mp) but if it was not mu job, I would probably never have tried Disco. After playtesting it for a month I started looking for more games like it (that is more open RPGs...). I still like survival games more but I played a bunch or RPGs as well. Also, a road map to fucking your family is comedy gold XD
@@rexrip1080 I am jealous that you were so closely involved with the game. Play testers generally get treated badly, especially by AAA producers, but I hope your experience was different.
As for the joke I made...I was doing my usual thing of trying to be funny because I felt I'd made myself vulnerable with the rest of my comment. Weird how making people laugh is a gentle form of coercion.
The fact that you, and the devs are slavic is way more pertinent than it first seems, I think.
People criticize the game for being nihilistic or depressing, or too 'socialist'. But I think it's easy in America and Western Europe to forget that the slavs have lived through and survived the ideologies which were thrust upon them. You've watched your ideologies die, ours just got better at lying to us and we cling to it because we have literally no alternative ideas.
Nihilism isn't the disappearance of ideology, it is the reappearance of humanity.
Honestly, the last time I felt so affected by artistic creation was when I first read Dostoevsky.
And it took me two attempts to play the game before I could do it honestly, without doing what I thought the game wanted.
I'd stop playing, go to work, and then have an argument in my head with something a character had said to me three hours earlier. Then I'd rush home after work to 'get closure', as the Americans say.
The fact that a game can do this, and the fact that so many people have similar experiences is beautiful to me, even as it exposes so much of my reality as a fraud...I am not a unique and special individual, who deserves everything and who's pain, love and reality is much more painful, lovely and real than anyone else's.
What I'm saying in my usual self- indulgent way, is that I felt different after playing and engaging with other people who played. No longer certain of myself, but also no longer alone in my certainty.
You apparently played a part in helping me feel that, so I thank you. Genuinely.
@@carlpotter1926 We worked with some AAA companies but there were a lot of indie companies as well, it was a balanced diet. The pay was shit but the office and interactions with devs were generally stellar so I can't say I had any of the typical problems that you see reported on. Most of the devs were good people and treated us well. Ubi people were dicks... I am a level designer and I just skip them when I am looking for work...
I think being Slavic only helped because most of our media is a combo of comedy and tragedy so the theme of the game got me good. If you look at a few of our movies (both Balkans, Ukraine and Russia), you will see the same pattern: Someone is doing something funny and then they die of tuberculosis or something like that. Then its happy and then someone dies again XD
Also, if you have not tried, play the game with high Shivers. Take Visual calculator as secondary. Then walk the streets and see the past, present and future! Also save spam to kick a racist in the face, I once got lucky and got a crit on a first try on really small physical instrument skill, guess my actual will to kick him translated to the game XD
The game changes everyone I think, it makes you feel warm and then hits you over the head with a club like a baby seal. It made me not trust people! Also to take mushrooms so I can do a shivers build irl XD
All kidding aside, this talk kind of hyped me up, it's time to replay the game again. It is nice to remember some of the fan parts of working that job as well. Thanks man!
I've seen a few, but they were either modern 'shock ' films ie. Nightwatch/
Daywatch, Serbian film etc or old artistic films like Solaris or Battleship Potemkin.
To be candid, my interest in Slavic art stems from a relationship with a Ukrainian girl and my inability to connect with her on a soulful level.
She once told me that smiling made me look like I was 'mentally deficient'.
Since then, I've wondered how the slavic mind works.
In the 'West', we easily judge reality through ideology.for you guys, ex Soviet, post-glasnost etc, ideology must seem absurd.
I dont wish to suck at your brain, so I will leave you in peace.
But I feel good about connecting and talking to you, whoever you are. And I will think about your words and treat them with reverence.
Just know that, in our small communication, I felt a feeling of value, of talking to a person.
I wish you well, I hope you keep doing things that send a wave around the world.
When all this money grabbing industry shit eats itself, it is the likes of you who will be remembered. Take it easy, stranger
Thank you for reviewing my favourite game. I only played the re-voiced edition and found no faults. Also Felix from Chapo is a... um, somewhat grating voice presence, as he himself admits, so definitely an improvement. Bravo!
VOCAL presence fuck! I fucked it up! I meant vocal. GOD DAMn IT
When I saw the collection of negative reviews, I thought "Huh, so this game also put up a mirror even for people who didn't like it. It compelled them enough to have them show their thoughts on the reviews page. Amazing!"
Best game ever! The opening sequence stumbling downstairs and the conversations with the manager had me in tears with laughter. Enjoyed the dark parts as well, overall the whole experience was revelatory.
Imma have to get my longest YE BOI ever out before I watch this, gimme a sec Grim Daddy
The reviews left for this game were so pitiful. People are fucking terrible.
Based on the controversy with the attempted rights theft, I thought the game only came out in 2022.
Also, the poorly written reviews explain themselves by the fact that the majority of them criticize the very act of reading.
This game called me a centrist, and I have yet to recover.
"Sometimes games are good." It's a shame that it's maybe 1 in 2077 that are though, what a waste of the programmer's, developers, and players lives. Our civilisation will be remembered for the waste it produced and opportunities it squandered, maybe this is why Revachol feels so uncomfortably familiar.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
My two favourite things. Together.
Just in time
Gotta wait to pick up a coworker from their flight lol
THHHANK
YOU
I would watch Grim play through this game I’d happily watch fir hrs on end and like and comment on each episode. I’m not even ashamed to say it. You should do this the grimportence of being idle. Do it. Disco Grimlysium
The game is good.
Disco Elysium was so good. Especially since I played the final cut, the voice acting is just... phenomenal. I hate that I now HAVE to compare every other game to it and that I can never play it for the first time again.
the best part about this game is that failure in *most* situations doesn't actually fail or end, but just gives you an alternate route(and sometimes a reward?). i thought id miss kitsuragi....but im glad my moron cop literally threw the gun at the guy after missing the shot. shoulda gave cuno more mention, the lil prick
I spent about two weeks playing through this. I would wake up early before work, smoke some weed, lie down in bed and play with my controller on PC and just get lost in the world and story. Truly one of the best world settings and writings I’ve ever experienced in a game.
disco elysium was a beautiful thing released at the perfect time that cannot be replicated due to the path of the industry and culture that moves more and more pass the cooments you read
in one playthought i discover if you play a racist you discover lena worst secrets and in other i contacted an airship, theres so much secrets if you play different skills and accept the randomness of events, if you reload and succed in all you block from events that unlock if you fail certain things.
that acceptabce of chaos and still going on made me realize of one of the song harry listens to "life gets hard but we go ooon" and that stuck with me thats in part the message of the game and i found more symbols of it, thanks for the video i will now ramble avoid all the meaning i found
the description of innocences is the best mocking of both religious and enligthment figures since that rethoric of the great man is trashed when is put before the "they only accelerated things that would had happened anyway" not for nothing dolores had the lungs of fire as depiction since the lungs is what process the source of life, air, but they don't produce it, in the same way that she was imposing the rules of life, of the new order, the fundamentals of the moralitmen that rule the world with her civilizacing and the fire of her armies, regulating it but not being able to define it to their pleasure. is not coincidence that the phasmid is on martinese and on the island that as joyce mentions doesn't had bloodshed during the conquest because there was no man there, in other words, was never civilized, and on the specific archipelago were the soldiers never accepted defeat.
The event on the island with the phasmid and the real last communist not being able to see it has for me different symbolism, him clearly blinded by hate and ideology at the past to the point of repeating several times that he is an ideological officer, his position is due to the injustices and the cruel reality of the world after "history ended", that supression of colective will that he could not retaliate against drove him to the point of not having joy or being able to let others have joy like his hate for the girl enjoying with the merc or the brothers for not changing things immediately even if they clearly had the strike plan for years in the making to expropriate the port. in the exact moment when you are forced to see what appears a depressing description of a permanent reality by him you see the phasmid, a magical moment that shouldn't exist, a proof that surprises still occur that his analysis is fault that "life gets hard but we go oonnn, baby" a proof of the wonders of life that can still be experienced no matter how fucked it is, or put in philosophical terms harry faces the Nietzschean last man in that last communist living by choice alone, in hate, exile and misery.
harry with his lost memory, is like the phasmids, doesn't have a reason for hate, he is able to experience the world without the bonds of morality, of history or shame he experiences joy and anger, experimentation and defeat until ot completes the journey to become the übermensch when he manages to talk to the phasmid, other being with similar conditions to harry current life, that event with him only being able to talk to the creature since kim can't listen the conversation for me was a methapor that one needs to let behind the past and the hate its consequences cause and act with joy, only that way one can overcome everything no matter from what side it comes, is not coincidence that those like mañana and gaston who are the most joyful and non align but neither centrist figures share the same technic and lighting in their portrait paintings that the phasmid does.
the message was clear that we need to move on, to embrace life and to find new ways to struggle and face the injustices of moralitmen because otherwise we end like that deserster on the island.,Another proof of this is that if you directly antagonize joyce with mazovian rethoric and not help evart because you consider him a revisionist you miss the only path to convince joyce to surrender the port to the workers union, if one gets fixated on the past and rescenment one loses the opportunity for the future, to avoid what will be a losing war against the company and help the workers. the conditions for change are always there because life is change itself, but that movement for change cannot be any of the ideas of the past, none of them had the might necessary to defeat the moralitmen airships or artillery in past and they have far less now, it also cannot be inaction. it needs to be what harry becomes when it loses his identity, past, memory, moralism and experiences, life without preconceived ideas, with childlike wonder. a new kind of man. a übermench
Great review of an absolute masterpiece
Not every game is for everyone, I get that. I also don't hardly ever comment on anything, much less read other people's comments. I think we should all keep that shit to ourselves far more often, or like, talk to actual people you know about it. I say all this to say, what the actual fuck. Who doesn't like this game!? It's... Nearly perfect.
Whatever, I loved it and appreciate your review. I had a brand new experience watching this review that I've never had, which was getting so angry at bad reviews that I had to smoke a cigarette to finish the video. Hahaha so thanks for that.
Keep up the good work. You're hilarious.
One thing I didn't like is if you internalize (AKA, "save" an idea) then the game treats it like everyone knows. I internalized things because I wanted to learn more about it or have that idea for a later interaction. And yes, I know what internalize means. I just wish they had another decision whether to go with it or not and that no one actually knows what you picked unless you tell them
Haven't played it yet nor seen any reviews, don't even know what the game is about. Not gonna see your review either, just dropped by to leave a like.
To answer your (rhetorical?) question as to why Evrart was portrayed as super corrupt and sleazy as fuck is because powerful people in socialist nations tend to be super corrupt and sleazy as fuck. What a surprise. Sincerely, a bloke who was born in a formerly (and most recently, yet again in all but name) socialist Eastern European country.
Yeah he is basically aparatchik who is currently working on building an aparat.
English is not my first language and playing this game really makes my brain wants to explode. I'm still in the earlier chapter of this game, and so far Disco Elysium is very beautiful game, but I do really need the mood to continue the game, because it's hard for me to process the story. It's very complicated to me
this is like, the disco elysium of disco elysium reviews
please grim morrowind something
This game..like this channels is among my top 3 factoring games/channels of ALL time at my 34 years of pitiful life.
However ..i can totaly understand every single of those bitter commenters. They are right...and wrong at the same time. Its all about the angle you ll see this game. For me its a golden faking gem in my lizard brain 🧠 🦎
Never thought I’d watch a review of any game & end up hearing the reviewer talk about SikTh, play Mermaid Slur & Part of the Friction, & discuss Mikee Goodman’s poetry/voice. Beautiful stuff & immensely fun music to play. Keep being you.
No truce with the furies is the only thing holding me back from a truce with the furries.
Hey now, cyberpunk was buggy, yeah, but I really enjoyed that narrative. 🧨🔫 Say something bad about cyberpunk and I'll do it. Swear to God.
Darkwood and this. Two insanely well done games I played thanks to you. Also your videos are weirdly effective in treating hangover.
Happy New Year Grim!
This is the best game I didn't like, and when you said it was a game about failure and failed things, I understood why. As a failure myself I don't like being reminded of it.
10/10 TL:DR.
Terrific game review.
Bonus points for the casual use of the word "sartorial" which I've had to look up twice recently.
Getting Kim to dance with you and the ravers is my favorite thing!
I am waiting to see the *CRY CRY* GAMES ARE NOT MEANT TO BE POLITICAL *CRY CRY*