I remember the second time I saw it. My dad threw it on shortly before he died. I remember being shocked that the movie was better than I remembered. And it felt both long and engaging. So I was also shocked that it's less than an hour and a half! The paranoia really stood out the second watch. I was even like... Dammit, nobody can trust each other, and with good reason! I also remember reading about this game in magazines and I've almost always had a computer a generation too late. But the articles described this game as a true sequel and a new direction for sequels of films. Which never really happened. Anyway, today I'm learning what this game was like. I'll never play it so I'm happy this guy is great at reviews and is reviewing this
As I get older I look back at actors like Kurt Russell with renewed respect. The Thing, Escape from New York, Big Trouble in Little China, Tang and Cash, Tombstone, etc, etc. The guy oozes cool and never mails in a performance. Even when the movie is trash, Kurt delivers. His performance in the Thing was exceptional.
I'm drawing a blank on picking out a bad Kurt Russell flick. I was going to say maybe "Soldier" or "Breakdown", but those are still both great B-tier films.
I also really like how he stay off social media, I know nothing about the guy and I really miss that about celebrities, today I know what time they woke up and what they were thinking and I hate it, there's no mystique left.
On a slightly related note, I just respect him for being one of the few actors out there that gets that his political views are separate from his work as an actor and only get in the way of allowing people to enjoy his work. He leans conservative but makes it very clear that he thinks actors who run their mouths about their political leanings are stepping on their own feet. He also adopted his wife's daughter and is very close with her, which is irrelevant, but a nice thing to note.
@@phutureproof Precisely what I was just saying, yeah. He avoids social media very intentionally. He is an actor to the core and has more respect for it than his ego, which is very rare.
The reason the "most ominous line" is missing, is because in the film you can see Macready rewinding the tape and recording on the top of the "most ominous line". Most likely not to disencourage the people fighting the thing if the research team fails. So it is not a mistake, it is as it should be by what was showed in the film. ☝🏻😑
I just recall being really annoyed by the trust/transformation mechanics because there were points where you could test a guy, see he's clean, walk four steps down a hall, trip a script trigger, and he'd instantly change into a Thing. It's like they got partway through development before realizing it was going to be *way* more difficult to implement as intended, but they'd already invested super heavily into marketing revolving around those systems so they couldn't just take it out. So what we get is a game that still has the UI elements and basic interactions for those mechanics, but they functionally barely exist.
As a kid it felt much more in line with the idea that no one could be trusted. I found an abandonware iso of the game and played it a few times over. Conceptually the game is awesome and it was so deliciously nostalgic to play again. But especially on the hard difficulty, non necessary followers turn almost instantly when you go around a corner. They 100% didn’t get to realize that mechanic to it’s fullest. Maybe the gods will grant us another game in the modern era with these mechanics fleshed out
You all prolly dont care at all but does anybody know a way to log back into an Instagram account? I stupidly forgot my login password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me!
One of my favorite boys talking about one of my favorite movies. Thank you dude, your stuff always makes me happy! Edit: Also Grimbo, I think they omitted MacReady's "Nobody trusts anybody now" line from that tape because in the film he rewinds that section, hears it and then records back over it. It's never explained why, but I always assumed MacReady thought it sounded too hopeless, or maybe he wanted to keep some shred of dignity for him and his team. Up to the viewer, but that was certainly a good attention to detail on the dev's part (you know... except for the whole virus and stupid hidden lab stuff).
I think he did that so he doesn't sound paranoid, so people that are gonna listen to it would see his recording as a potential source of valuable information, rather than just ramblings of an insane person. I mean, what he said there sounded crazy enough as it was.
Good points. I'm sure there could be many competing motivations, I think that's why people find MacReady (and the other characters) nuanced and compelling. They feel real in that regard. Could be a coping mechanism too, as MacReady suspects he doesn't have much time left. Wants a positive mark behind somehow. Now if only we could have played an interesting character like this in the game...
I’m honestly pissed they killed Childs off and had his body be found at the beginning, used only to highlight the missing MacReady to the informed player. Childs is one of the more enigmatic and competent characters in the movie, a dramatic foil to MacReady due to the very crux of the film and the creature’s greatest strength - the ability to inspire distrust and infighting amongst the group and move undetected. Were it any other mechanism of reproduction, Childs and MacReady could effectively cooperate and direct the rest of the beardy boys to take care of the threat. Instead, its greatest strength is the ability to use the survival instincts and competency of the group and turn it inward on itself in the form of paranoia - making potentially powerful cooperation into deadly antagonism as individuals begin the machinate against each other. Childs and MacReady embody this more subtle form of paranoia, when compared to the other more overt examples of the behavior such as Wilfred Brimley’s character’s violent lashing out and psychotic break. The film ends for a reason with Childs and MacReady silently acknowledging that there’s no more need for the antagonistic distrust - as they’ll both be dead soon regardless, making the competing survival drives moot. (Unless you headcanon this game or the 2011 prequel where hypothetically Marie Elizabeth Winstead could’ve made it to the Russian base in time to send a party to check on the American base before Childs and MacReady froze, I guess) Idk, I guess my point is that Childs wasn’t exactly a throw-away character. He was kinda thematically important to the underlying conflict of the plot and they done him dirty.
@@Duskets He's streaming from time to time but doesn't make any videos. This is a shame since his latest series, Counter Monkey, was a blast to watch. But I don't blame him - bipolar disorder is a bitch. And I'm grateful to him for all the hours of fun that he brought me already.
I just spent the last two days watching pretty much all of your reviews, adding a lil joy to this gray year, and then I woke up to this upload.... Is this..... MY gift under the solstice bush???
Sometimes Grimbeard gives me what I expect: Goth, gamers, nation. Sometimes Grimbeard reminds me Lambchop existed and kicks me down a spiral staircase of weird nostalgic emotions. This is why I keep coming back for more.
"Hackerz" is *insanely* cult classic, it's so bad that it's Midas' touched! I absolutely love everyone's campy portrayals. And the hacking?! It's like it was written by a 54 year old executive just after doing a fatty whiff of ye ol' nose candy.
I remember playing "The Thing" back in the day. Eventually I came across a boss I just could not kill. If I remember it right, the boss was behind a roller shutter that eventually opened to reveal it. I blasted it with everything I had but it was somehow not enough. To this day I have no idea if I really didn't have enough ammo, it was a bug, or I wasn't hitting the right body parts.
I think I remember this same issue, eventually beat it after an hour of tries with what seemed like luck, and the game froze mid-cutscene. I had enough and quit right there.
That might have been the second boss he showed off where he tossed a grenade and hit himself? Before the base is detonated and you have to flee to the elevator. Yeah, the boss fights were not much of a highlight for this game. They really don't fit with the tone of the series at all, but they wanted an action-y sort of game and that's what they gave us. Problem is, it was survival horror in a lot of elements, so it didn't really mesh well with the genres they were mixing. There are great examples of that working, like RE4, but this game's controls were a bit too awkward to pull it off effectively. Eventually you realize that either you're going to suffer a lot to get through the game's bullshit boss and environmental segments or you were gonna cheat to see it to the end and the latter is what I went with and felt pretty justified about when I came across the staircase with fire shooting out at every spot and explosives around every corner (and tons of Things dropping out of vents and charging at you...). The game just has so many issues, but it's a neat attempt at making a game out of the movie concept. It just could have gone better.
The movie is actually pretty ambiguous about how exactly someone becomes a host of the thing, it's entirely possible that it does infect people and just systematically overtake their body without their knowledge. Alternatively this guy could simply believe that he's infected even if that's not how it works, paranoia and all that.
@@ShawnBlaque The movie is filled with timeskips and periods where characters are unobserved. The whole point is that you don't have all of the details.
@@themissinggene You literally see the alien creature attack and begin to consume the dogs at the beginning, and then later Garry. It doesn't infect the characters and make them gradually "turn", like zombies. It violently attacks, consumes, then becomes them. It tries to do this while alone with its victim, so it isn't found out, but is forced to do it openly a few times.
@@Helvetica_Scenario Yes I'm aware, but it could have more than one vector, it's why the characters spend half the movie being scared of sharing food and drink.
@@Helvetica_Scenario i mean i don't see why it couldn't take over a body cell-by-cell if that was the vector it was forced to use, isn't that what Wilford Brimley's computer simulation basically showed happening? it's just that physically eating its prey whole is a lot faster. plus Things can be as small as individual blood cells, so those cells have to be able to work their way up to bigger prey somehow.
@@FoRmaTiTo was going to say it but you're fucking nailed it.. mine would have had at least three paragraphs to make the joke, thank you for saving me that embarrassment.
I'd also recommend Civvie11, primarily if you like boomer shooters, and Accursed Farms, aka Ross's Game Dungeon, primarily for absurd/obscure games with added tangential rants on either society or the verisimilitude of a particular game world. Example: In his review of Sonic Heroes, he goes into the logistics of how Robotnik can afford his robot armies and fleets for what feels like 5-10 minutes. Absolute madlad.
That scene at 28:15 is hilarious from a gun mechanics standpoint, not only is the military guy holding his pistol sideways, all the soldiers in the room had unchambered guns and bolts that needed racking.
You got to understand in the early 90s and late 2000s everyone held a gun sideways...it was the style at the time, all the other kids were going to make fun of you if you didn't hold your gun sideways.. and honestly that just wasn't an option back then, you got to understand this was before Twitter and nfts and and all we had was the hot topic.. we didn't have variety back then to join our own particular little click.. there was there was just one click to join the cool kids and if you didn't join the cool kids you were you were you were nobody there was nobody.. you just you just had to suck it up and paint your nails black with a sharpie or magic marker if he your mom wouldn't let you have sharpies, but but then you did it anyways.. and you know and if it if it ever became too much you just put them in the paper bag and then and then you breathe the paper bag and then it's all good.. everything just kind of goes away....
Ever since I got the first few videos of yours recommended, I always look forward to new content. That intro and overall template is fine as fuck. Thanks for your work. Will probably join the patrons soon.
I had this for the OG xbox, I remember the Saliva song being a prominent feature on the cover. The Thing movie (and this game I guess) has a special place in my heart. See, when I was going through my first divorce, my buddy sent me a gif of Kurt Russell pouring his drink in the chess wizard saying "Cheating Bitch", and it cheered me up immensely.
Hey, sham, wanted to say that while I often don't agree with your review and find quite a few unintentionally misleading infos in your vids related to games discussed or things around them, I think you're a very interesting and enjoyble reviewer to watch, and I appreciate your multi-angled opinions on games and the industry, even if it doesn't go along with mine (And when it does, it goes should to shoulder). Found your channel about a month ago, already almost binge-watched most of it. Keep on truckin', and may the road rise up to meet you.
What a sick, twisted, lovely boy. Always great reviews of older games, so good that they transcend the need to play the game for yourself. Thanks for ruining games I haven't and will never, play.
I think it was implied in the 1st movie that you could get a slow infection of the creature which is why they decided to only eat canned food out of fear of the alien putting bits of its self into food. So its likely the Thing could inject a small amount of its self in a bite or flesh harpoon. (yes that is an actual thing snail do it for mating)
Forgot to mention this when I originally watched the video on release but found this on my playthrough a few years ago. If you enable mouse aiming you then lose the damage indicators for the enemies. They are a bracket around the enemy which changes from green to red as they take damage. This is useful as you use bullets till they are red and then they are vulnerable to fire. This is especially useful for the bosses and to conserve both types of ammo. The game refers to this mechanic when it first tells you about the larger things and I remembered it from the console. Even with mouse aiming off you can still use the mouse to look around in the horizontal axis. Aiming would mostly be via auto aim. For most enemies you eventually get a feel for how much bullet damage they need before they are vulnerable to fire and the precision of being able to aim where you want out weighs the damage info. This is especially true for the human enemies and the critters. In boss fights it is useful to know when you have done enough damage so either turning it off for a second to check or turning it off for the boss fights can be useful. Hope this might be useful for anyone doing a playthrough.
Since remakes/remasters are still such a craze this game sure as hell could benefit from one. I liked it at the time, but ho boy did it not quite deliver on it's promises.
As far as I understand the classification of the Thing as an average Joe, it's what is generally called a supercell organism: it somewhat combines the aspects of a multicellular organism and a virus. It infects and injects cells to change the genetic makeup like a virus can. Meanwhile it changes the cells into duplicates of itself and it also archives the genetic makeup of those cells within itself. That last part allows the Thing to shape-shift into variations and combinations of whatever it has assimilated up to that point. In short the Thing's pathology functions mostly like a virus, but unlike a virus it is multicellular and definitely sapient.
Yikes. The whole "alien virus" angle is either the developers just not knowing the plot of the movie like you suggested, or a marketing angle of "Let's make it like 'Resident Evil', because money money money!"
Dude ur great. I just stumbled on ur stuff yesterday n I wish I had earlier. Ur detailed about ur topics n hilarious. Great to see another person that goth hates everything.
Thank you. I was just starting to feel my seasonal kick in and tonight sucked until I saw the push notification. And the opening hit home. Ride the wave 👋 😎
@5:49 Woah, the Lamb Chop lady was a real cutie back in the day! My inner small child who remembers her from that dreadful show I was forced to watch in the 90s (and it’s awful theme, “The Song That Doesn’t End”) feels very… confused.
Did you honestly have to bleep out "Evolva" cause it sounds like " a vulva" to the algorithm? Also Evolva was actually pretty sick. I'd recommend to check that one out.
Whenever I hear the Thing and video games, I always have to mention that one of the first video games that I created in college was inspired by The Thing and Cryostasis: Sleep of Reason.
@@AlexOlinkiewicz Congrats on all of the great reviews! Not my genre, but it's downloaded, running well, and on my to-do list. I _definitely_ appreciate having sliders for FOV, bloom, and motion blur.
10:05 Sort of. In the bonus footage of the DVD there's a long-form video that goes over interviews with the cast and crew and they talk about the movie. Charles Hallahan said in his interpretation of his character, Norris, that he viewed his character turning down responsibility when offered an authority role as a subconscious fear/suspicion of himself being infected. He said something along the lines of "he knew deep down" and it was his human side trying to avoid that fate. This is just an actor's interpretation and really it's up to the viewer to decide how it works, because the whole movie is vague on a lot of levels to keep the suspense and mystery and it's one of the reasons I love the movie so much. No matter how many times you watch it, you can never fully explain everything, you can only theorize and conjecture what might be the truth. Thing cells operate independently, but a human mind operates as if it were a single individual (with the side of the subconscious mind which operates underneath our conscious mind, often against its wishes). So if "a" Thing (many Things cells, but let's just say it's one individual for sake of simplicity) can perfectly replicate a human, why couldn't it think and act like a human? I can't remember who said it in the interview, but there was also the idea floated about by the cast/crew that Things may leave the human personality to operate however it would normally and then "take over" when it needed to sabotage things or when its existence is threatened (in the latter case, transforming and separating the way Norris-Thing's head does). Maybe the Thing cells didn't activate when they should have to stop Pierce from killing himself. Though why shooting himself in the head would matter if he's been infected, idk. Maybe they hadn't managed to take over all of the cells in time. It's a rapid process, but just being spurted with the cells real quick doesn't generally turn people. It seems to need to be a grievous wound and then the cells take over as quickly as possible and eventually form another human-clone Thing. You can argue it doesn't make sense, and I agree it's a little silly to hear, but with how varied the Thing itself is, and how interpretive the entire movie is meant to be as far as what's conclusive, I think it works just fine.
As a HUGE fan of the movie, it's debatable if a person can be infected by the alien organism. They definitely show that a full grown thing can get you and mimic you perfectly, and it's shown that a smaller alien, the size of a forearm, can as well. One of the scientists does say he believes even a single cell can, given enough time, transform all the cells in a person into the alien organism. It's never addressed if said person would be aware it's happening. Also, it's not a virus, but what is called a super cell organism.
Holy shit you've got a lot of patrons now. Good for you :) I've just recently found you because of your Silent Hill video and I'm liking your content, you remind me of a friend I have who also has a dark sense of humour. I'm glad you're finding ways to grow your channel in the dark abyss of the algorithm :)
ya know, i can see why you'd dislike it, it's a rough game but i still appreciate it's charm. there's a glitch you can do to clip your camera through any barrier, (it's useless in every way but it's fun to look outside the map) u have to open the companion menu (or weapon menu, i guess) while looking in either direction, but you must do it fast or it won't work
The guy who is infected and kills himself earlier in the game. I thought the fact that he didn't transform was supposed to show that he wasn't infected after all. Though this is later made more confusing by the virus stuff. But I haven't played this game through in a long time.
Can't help but get excited at your uploads my man. Also the 'thing' was and always has been that freaky unknown alien that replaces people, to you know.. instil paranoia and fear. Making it a virus is whack.
Actually, I just love so much this movie I had to play the game. When I was kis and saw this movie this was the scariest thing in my life (I already saw Alien, and I was like... meh). But you right it has many big letdowns, annoying glitches and I forgot the whole plot about it nearly instantly, so thank you for bringing it up. I really don't know why they not making a sequel since it was a commercial success (lookalikes Freedom Fighters). I don't think the thing it's a virus, it's mimicking perfectly any being (so actually maybe he wasn't that alien which the Norwegians find, maybe that alien was already just a host for it. BUT At that time when the movie hit the theatres, many critics compare this nobody trusts anybody, and you need a blood test to be sure themes to the AIDS which was a new thing at the era. And AIDS kills people mostly the same way, you don't know who has it until it's late. So maybe the whole virus idea crawling from this. Anyway appreciate your work, never stop. And I really hope some day just saw your video about Silent Hill 2. Merry Xmas!
EVERY DAMN TIME - like magic, or clockwork, or something. Every time I go on Grimbeard's channel (every couple of weeks) to internally bitch and grumble about the lack of a fresh upload, I go to bed and wake up to find a new video there. You're like some kind of spooky goth Santa, or genie.
Hes a Jin, that's why Parapub keeps finding ghosties on its scans. 😁 We need to compile a case for spookhouse to get Grim on board! I would watch a show of Grim and Pug just roaming around with stranger as a sequel to Nocturne... If they can make "The Boys" in to a great show surely we can force a season of "the Grim adventures of Parapug and Stranger" the dark comedy writes itself
Hi! I found your channel from a vtmb and I'm watching your fallout 2 video now, and I just wanna say I'm loving the content! Keep up the good work, I look forward to your future videos
I remember enjoying it. For me it was solid 4 out of 5. I love the movie, I like action horror and for me, this game did managed to successfully capture movie atmosphere.
Hey man, I'm about 98% sure this will be my first youtube comment ever. Just wanted to let you know I love your channel and sense of humor. Appreciate all the hard work you put into these and just wanted to let you know.
I love your videos, you're fucking hilarious and I love the subject matter. Editing is on point. Its the best thing Ive seen since Civvie. But I CANNOT STAND HOW SOFTLY YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
"The film is worth a watch" yeah about 260 times.
Those are beginner numbers. But I like your spirit.
@chandllerburse737 I highly recommend it. After all these years there's literally like two frames that don't hold up.
Grim definitely delivered an understatement. Carpenter's The Thing was the peak of horror.
I remember the second time I saw it. My dad threw it on shortly before he died. I remember being shocked that the movie was better than I remembered. And it felt both long and engaging. So I was also shocked that it's less than an hour and a half! The paranoia really stood out the second watch. I was even like... Dammit, nobody can trust each other, and with good reason! I also remember reading about this game in magazines and I've almost always had a computer a generation too late. But the articles described this game as a true sequel and a new direction for sequels of films. Which never really happened. Anyway, today I'm learning what this game was like. I'll never play it so I'm happy this guy is great at reviews and is reviewing this
I watched it 546 times… en counting
As I get older I look back at actors like Kurt Russell with renewed respect. The Thing, Escape from New York, Big Trouble in Little China, Tang and Cash, Tombstone, etc, etc. The guy oozes cool and never mails in a performance. Even when the movie is trash, Kurt delivers. His performance in the Thing was exceptional.
Yep. But it sucks we have to age to realize such things.
I'm drawing a blank on picking out a bad Kurt Russell flick. I was going to say maybe "Soldier" or "Breakdown", but those are still both great B-tier films.
I also really like how he stay off social media, I know nothing about the guy and I really miss that about celebrities, today I know what time they woke up and what they were thinking and I hate it, there's no mystique left.
On a slightly related note, I just respect him for being one of the few actors out there that gets that his political views are separate from his work as an actor and only get in the way of allowing people to enjoy his work.
He leans conservative but makes it very clear that he thinks actors who run their mouths about their political leanings are stepping on their own feet.
He also adopted his wife's daughter and is very close with her, which is irrelevant, but a nice thing to note.
@@phutureproof Precisely what I was just saying, yeah. He avoids social media very intentionally. He is an actor to the core and has more respect for it than his ego, which is very rare.
The reason the "most ominous line" is missing, is because in the film you can see Macready rewinding the tape and recording on the top of the "most ominous line".
Most likely not to disencourage the people fighting the thing if the research team fails.
So it is not a mistake, it is as it should be by what was showed in the film.
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That's cool! I didn't realize that
I had forgotten about that. Good catch.
I just recall being really annoyed by the trust/transformation mechanics because there were points where you could test a guy, see he's clean, walk four steps down a hall, trip a script trigger, and he'd instantly change into a Thing.
It's like they got partway through development before realizing it was going to be *way* more difficult to implement as intended, but they'd already invested super heavily into marketing revolving around those systems so they couldn't just take it out. So what we get is a game that still has the UI elements and basic interactions for those mechanics, but they functionally barely exist.
As a kid it felt much more in line with the idea that no one could be trusted. I found an abandonware iso of the game and played it a few times over. Conceptually the game is awesome and it was so deliciously nostalgic to play again. But especially on the hard difficulty, non necessary followers turn almost instantly when you go around a corner. They 100% didn’t get to realize that mechanic to it’s fullest. Maybe the gods will grant us another game in the modern era with these mechanics fleshed out
@@Mason_____ heh, "fleshed out".
@@Mason_____ You what would be awesome, if they developers of Until Dawn got the rights to make a Thing game. Will never happen though.
@@AVerySillySausage yuck
@@AVerySillySausage Supermassive's games mostly suck. And a Thing-based game should definitely allow a lot more freedom of choice and simulation.
There's a vast and dark lore behind all those phone calls and one day I'll figure it out, right after I find that Jason Statham video.
Maybe some kind soul will edit them all together
You mean like some Patrick willems connection?
My favorite diary.
Aren’t you that guy that makes TH-cam videos
What the fuck is a TH-cam
@@UhThickWombat obviously he is a girl... 👀
Oh shit, Mr. Sark is a part of Goth Gamer Nation!
You all prolly dont care at all but does anybody know a way to log back into an Instagram account?
I stupidly forgot my login password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me!
Dark, gloomy, alone, and cold... here I am sitting in my living room and then you upload this. It's gonna be a fun night :)
Oh yes it is
i love winter.
Grimbeard talking about John Carpenter is the best christmas gift I could imagine
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One of my favorite boys talking about one of my favorite movies. Thank you dude, your stuff always makes me happy!
Edit: Also Grimbo, I think they omitted MacReady's "Nobody trusts anybody now" line from that tape because in the film he rewinds that section, hears it and then records back over it. It's never explained why, but I always assumed MacReady thought it sounded too hopeless, or maybe he wanted to keep some shred of dignity for him and his team. Up to the viewer, but that was certainly a good attention to detail on the dev's part (you know... except for the whole virus and stupid hidden lab stuff).
I think he did that so he doesn't sound paranoid, so people that are gonna listen to it would see his recording as a potential source of valuable information, rather than just ramblings of an insane person. I mean, what he said there sounded crazy enough as it was.
True, he instead records "There's nothing I can do now. Just wait."
Maybe he just wanted a second draft.
That's why MacReady started scripting his podcast's hot takes.
Good points. I'm sure there could be many competing motivations, I think that's why people find MacReady (and the other characters) nuanced and compelling. They feel real in that regard. Could be a coping mechanism too, as MacReady suspects he doesn't have much time left. Wants a positive mark behind somehow. Now if only we could have played an interesting character like this in the game...
I’m honestly pissed they killed Childs off and had his body be found at the beginning, used only to highlight the missing MacReady to the informed player. Childs is one of the more enigmatic and competent characters in the movie, a dramatic foil to MacReady due to the very crux of the film and the creature’s greatest strength - the ability to inspire distrust and infighting amongst the group and move undetected. Were it any other mechanism of reproduction, Childs and MacReady could effectively cooperate and direct the rest of the beardy boys to take care of the threat.
Instead, its greatest strength is the ability to use the survival instincts and competency of the group and turn it inward on itself in the form of paranoia - making potentially powerful cooperation into deadly antagonism as individuals begin the machinate against each other. Childs and MacReady embody this more subtle form of paranoia, when compared to the other more overt examples of the behavior such as Wilfred Brimley’s character’s violent lashing out and psychotic break.
The film ends for a reason with Childs and MacReady silently acknowledging that there’s no more need for the antagonistic distrust - as they’ll both be dead soon regardless, making the competing survival drives moot. (Unless you headcanon this game or the 2011 prequel where hypothetically Marie Elizabeth Winstead could’ve made it to the Russian base in time to send a party to check on the American base before Childs and MacReady froze, I guess)
Idk, I guess my point is that Childs wasn’t exactly a throw-away character. He was kinda thematically important to the underlying conflict of the plot and they done him dirty.
Aw heck yeah, it's been a shit miserable monday but this is a real turnaround
Anyone else remember Spoony's review of this game? Freaking out over the cable boxes and all.
Poor guy.
Anyone check in on Spoony? Is he doing alright?
@@Duskets He's streaming from time to time but doesn't make any videos. This is a shame since his latest series, Counter Monkey, was a blast to watch. But I don't blame him - bipolar disorder is a bitch. And I'm grateful to him for all the hours of fun that he brought me already.
Welp, time to rewatch the Ultima Retrospective again.
@@UltimateCarl Very true.
Rewatched it recently. The fusebox countdown is still funny
I just spent the last two days watching pretty much all of your reviews, adding a lil joy to this gray year, and then I woke up to this upload....
Is this.....
MY gift under the solstice bush???
I'm still not over how you just dropped an oiled, dancing Jason Statham on me xD
That dance has stopped 3 civil wars in the UK
Sometimes Grimbeard gives me what I expect: Goth, gamers, nation. Sometimes Grimbeard reminds me Lambchop existed and kicks me down a spiral staircase of weird nostalgic emotions. This is why I keep coming back for more.
"Hackerz" is *insanely* cult classic, it's so bad that it's Midas' touched! I absolutely love everyone's campy portrayals. And the hacking?! It's like it was written by a 54 year old executive just after doing a fatty whiff of ye ol' nose candy.
I remember playing "The Thing" back in the day. Eventually I came across a boss I just could not kill. If I remember it right, the boss was behind a roller shutter that eventually opened to reveal it. I blasted it with everything I had but it was somehow not enough. To this day I have no idea if I really didn't have enough ammo, it was a bug, or I wasn't hitting the right body parts.
I think I remember this same issue, eventually beat it after an hour of tries with what seemed like luck, and the game froze mid-cutscene. I had enough and quit right there.
Maybe you had to burn it after pumping enough bullets in it like with all bigger enemies if I remember correctly.
That might have been the second boss he showed off where he tossed a grenade and hit himself?
Before the base is detonated and you have to flee to the elevator.
Yeah, the boss fights were not much of a highlight for this game. They really don't fit with the tone of the series at all, but they wanted an action-y sort of game and that's what they gave us. Problem is, it was survival horror in a lot of elements, so it didn't really mesh well with the genres they were mixing. There are great examples of that working, like RE4, but this game's controls were a bit too awkward to pull it off effectively.
Eventually you realize that either you're going to suffer a lot to get through the game's bullshit boss and environmental segments or you were gonna cheat to see it to the end and the latter is what I went with and felt pretty justified about when I came across the staircase with fire shooting out at every spot and explosives around every corner (and tons of Things dropping out of vents and charging at you...). The game just has so many issues, but it's a neat attempt at making a game out of the movie concept. It just could have gone better.
The movie is actually pretty ambiguous about how exactly someone becomes a host of the thing, it's entirely possible that it does infect people and just systematically overtake their body without their knowledge. Alternatively this guy could simply believe that he's infected even if that's not how it works, paranoia and all that.
You have to watch the movie again, there is no infection. It is an alien the duplicates it's victims and becomes them.
@@ShawnBlaque The movie is filled with timeskips and periods where characters are unobserved. The whole point is that you don't have all of the details.
@@themissinggene You literally see the alien creature attack and begin to consume the dogs at the beginning, and then later Garry. It doesn't infect the characters and make them gradually "turn", like zombies. It violently attacks, consumes, then becomes them. It tries to do this while alone with its victim, so it isn't found out, but is forced to do it openly a few times.
@@Helvetica_Scenario Yes I'm aware, but it could have more than one vector, it's why the characters spend half the movie being scared of sharing food and drink.
@@Helvetica_Scenario i mean i don't see why it couldn't take over a body cell-by-cell if that was the vector it was forced to use, isn't that what Wilford Brimley's computer simulation basically showed happening? it's just that physically eating its prey whole is a lot faster.
plus Things can be as small as individual blood cells, so those cells have to be able to work their way up to bigger prey somehow.
Hotdamn. New grimbeard right as I turned the TH-cam app on. You're right on time, man.
I love this channel, his jokes are so incredibly dry and weird.
This channel is THE hidden gem when it comes to gaming videos on TH-cam, so original.
@@DezuKiwami Between finding Grim Beard, Warlockcracy, PatricianTV and Tehsnakerer, it's been a good string of youtube discoveries of late.
@@FoRmaTiTo was going to say it but you're fucking nailed it.. mine would have had at least three paragraphs to make the joke, thank you for saving me that embarrassment.
I'd also recommend Civvie11, primarily if you like boomer shooters, and Accursed Farms, aka Ross's Game Dungeon, primarily for absurd/obscure games with added tangential rants on either society or the verisimilitude of a particular game world. Example: In his review of Sonic Heroes, he goes into the logistics of how Robotnik can afford his robot armies and fleets for what feels like 5-10 minutes. Absolute madlad.
@@viscountrainbows6452 I already know of Civvie11. A really great channel too.
First I get to watch Jerma and his goofy ass play through this, now I get to watch Grim Beard and his goofy ass review it. Maybe 2020 ain't so bad.
That scene at 28:15 is hilarious from a gun mechanics standpoint, not only is the military guy holding his pistol sideways, all the soldiers in the room had unchambered guns and bolts that needed racking.
You got to understand in the early 90s and late 2000s everyone held a gun sideways...it was the style at the time, all the other kids were going to make fun of you if you didn't hold your gun sideways.. and honestly that just wasn't an option back then, you got to understand this was before Twitter and nfts and and all we had was the hot topic.. we didn't have variety back then to join our own particular little click.. there was there was just one click to join the cool kids and if you didn't join the cool kids you were you were you were nobody there was nobody.. you just you just had to suck it up and paint your nails black with a sharpie or magic marker if he your mom wouldn't let you have sharpies, but but then you did it anyways.. and you know and if it if it ever became too much you just put them in the paper bag and then and then you breathe the paper bag and then it's all good.. everything just kind of goes away....
This has to be the only channel where I sit through the patreon names and enjoy it.
Man your reviews are amazing.
You are giving so much of your time to create those gems.
Greetings from Greece 🇬🇷🤘
“That’s also how the magic happens sometimes...” Can relate.
The Holiday Man bit is the hardest I’ve laughed this year...well outside of Borat 2.
it's okay bro, i cried during the Twisted Metal 3 intro.
18:10 " It's more Hollywood, than the film was "
What a statement 👍
Dunno why but I get the feeling that big boy Grim doesn't like Evolve.
More likely that he didn't want to say e 'vulva'.
Grimbeard is obviously a hard-core Creationist.
Ever since I got the first few videos of yours recommended, I always look forward to new content. That intro and overall template is fine as fuck.
Thanks for your work. Will probably join the patrons soon.
Never get tired of that intro! Love how all the clips fit together like a twisted little puzzle
A sincere thank you for that Modern Baseball joke. Made my heart smile.
All praise, Holiday Man! I've left my door unlocked as instructed.
hell, I'm playing my thing RIGHT NOW
i want a t-shirt with 'assemble, holiday man is coming' on it.
Really enjoy all the edits and asides... you make me laugh a lot, and I relate to you a lot. Always happy to see you upload.
I had this for the OG xbox, I remember the Saliva song being a prominent feature on the cover. The Thing movie (and this game I guess) has a special place in my heart. See, when I was going through my first divorce, my buddy sent me a gif of Kurt Russell pouring his drink in the chess wizard saying "Cheating Bitch", and it cheered me up immensely.
“You called me!” That really hit me in the feels
I thought The Thing was an alien mimic. I don't think it infected anyone, it just stole an organism's likeness.
Hey, sham, wanted to say that while I often don't agree with your review and find quite a few unintentionally misleading infos in your vids related to games discussed or things around them, I think you're a very interesting and enjoyble reviewer to watch, and I appreciate your multi-angled opinions on games and the industry, even if it doesn't go along with mine (And when it does, it goes should to shoulder).
Found your channel about a month ago, already almost binge-watched most of it.
Keep on truckin', and may the road rise up to meet you.
Mr. Beard I love the frantic editing and weird kinda deep vibe of your videos:) keep up the good work!!
What a sick, twisted, lovely boy. Always great reviews of older games, so good that they transcend the need to play the game for yourself. Thanks for ruining games I haven't and will never, play.
I think it was implied in the 1st movie that you could get a slow infection of the creature which is why they decided to only eat canned food out of fear of the alien putting bits of its self into food. So its likely the Thing could inject a small amount of its self in a bite or flesh harpoon. (yes that is an actual thing snail do it for mating)
A The Thing video game that plays a bit more like the RE2 remake would be gold.
How has someone not made that?
Forgot to mention this when I originally watched the video on release but found this on my playthrough a few years ago.
If you enable mouse aiming you then lose the damage indicators for the enemies.
They are a bracket around the enemy which changes from green to red as they take damage.
This is useful as you use bullets till they are red and then they are vulnerable to fire. This is especially useful for the bosses and to conserve both types of ammo.
The game refers to this mechanic when it first tells you about the larger things and I remembered it from the console.
Even with mouse aiming off you can still use the mouse to look around in the horizontal axis. Aiming would mostly be via auto aim.
For most enemies you eventually get a feel for how much bullet damage they need before they are vulnerable to fire and the precision of being able to aim where you want out weighs the damage info. This is especially true for the human enemies and the critters.
In boss fights it is useful to know when you have done enough damage so either turning it off for a second to check or turning it off for the boss fights can be useful.
Hope this might be useful for anyone doing a playthrough.
First heard of this game from Spoony.
Same here
may he rest in peace
Since remakes/remasters are still such a craze this game sure as hell could benefit from one. I liked it at the time, but ho boy did it not quite deliver on it's promises.
I’ve thought about it a lot and I’d die for Christmas Phone I think.
Peak festive vibes! Also the man has pretty nails to compliment the pretty phone. It's perfect!
@@MelonMan666 all that’s missing is a Santa hat and some tinsel hanging from the beard 🤔
@@kkangas09 both could be there, maybe we're just unaware of it. 🤔
As far as I understand the classification of the Thing as an average Joe, it's what is generally called a supercell organism: it somewhat combines the aspects of a multicellular organism and a virus. It infects and injects cells to change the genetic makeup like a virus can. Meanwhile it changes the cells into duplicates of itself and it also archives the genetic makeup of those cells within itself. That last part allows the Thing to shape-shift into variations and combinations of whatever it has assimilated up to that point.
In short the Thing's pathology functions mostly like a virus, but unlike a virus it is multicellular and definitely sapient.
Yikes. The whole "alien virus" angle is either the developers just not knowing the plot of the movie like you suggested, or a marketing angle of "Let's make it like 'Resident Evil', because money money money!"
Just by sheer luck, every time I visit my dad, a new episode comes out and it's become a happy little accidental ceremony
Very odd but also hilarious that the 'oh fuck' moment at 28:41 is conveyed with the first five lines of Pothole and that it somehow works
„I’m okay Sir, I just pissed, it’s just some piss Sir!“ 😂
Dude ur great. I just stumbled on ur stuff yesterday n I wish I had earlier. Ur detailed about ur topics n hilarious. Great to see another person that goth hates everything.
Thank you. I was just starting to feel my seasonal kick in and tonight sucked until I saw the push notification. And the opening hit home. Ride the wave 👋 😎
Just watched The Thing for the first time and glad to see someone made a review for the game :D
That mobo reference was awesome. Thanks for that grim!
It is currently 4am here, imma be back in a few hours.
Thank you for posting, I know it’s going to be great
Always elated to see your work!
Love the 2 seconds of Big Truck you put in there
@5:49
Woah, the Lamb Chop lady was a real cutie back in the day!
My inner small child who remembers her from that dreadful show I was forced to watch in the 90s (and it’s awful theme, “The Song That Doesn’t End”) feels very…
confused.
Did you honestly have to bleep out "Evolva" cause it sounds like " a vulva" to the algorithm?
Also Evolva was actually pretty sick. I'd recommend to check that one out.
I feel like it was a joke.
My childhood memories feel like distant dreams anymore, but I remember playing this and having it scare the crap outta me.
Even though i loved this game as a kid and have serious nostalgia attached to this,i still enjoy Grim just shitting on it ever so expertly xD
I'm surprised how HD the models are compared to what I remember on the OG Xbox
Loved this game, glad some others agree aswell
Hey, I would watch you dive into Supernatural. Especially if you focus on the romance angle as per the most popular fanfic tied to each episode.
Whenever I hear the Thing and video games, I always have to mention that one of the first video games that I created in college was inspired by The Thing and Cryostasis: Sleep of Reason.
Do you still have it? It'd be interesting to see how well that chocolate and peanut butter mixed.
@@futonrevolution7671 The game is called FROSTBITE: Deadly Climate and the game is free on Steam
@@AlexOlinkiewicz Congrats on all of the great reviews! Not my genre, but it's downloaded, running well, and on my to-do list. I _definitely_ appreciate having sliders for FOV, bloom, and motion blur.
@@AlexOlinkiewicz oh, I got that in a bundle but never tried it. I'll have to now.
your channel deserves more views and subscribers; love the format.
Accept my fealty, Lord Grim Beard.
For I be, now and forever, a servant of the Goth Gamer Nation.
*ENGAGEMENT*
Thanks for making these. They're always enjoyable.
10:05 Sort of. In the bonus footage of the DVD there's a long-form video that goes over interviews with the cast and crew and they talk about the movie. Charles Hallahan said in his interpretation of his character, Norris, that he viewed his character turning down responsibility when offered an authority role as a subconscious fear/suspicion of himself being infected. He said something along the lines of "he knew deep down" and it was his human side trying to avoid that fate.
This is just an actor's interpretation and really it's up to the viewer to decide how it works, because the whole movie is vague on a lot of levels to keep the suspense and mystery and it's one of the reasons I love the movie so much. No matter how many times you watch it, you can never fully explain everything, you can only theorize and conjecture what might be the truth.
Thing cells operate independently, but a human mind operates as if it were a single individual (with the side of the subconscious mind which operates underneath our conscious mind, often against its wishes). So if "a" Thing (many Things cells, but let's just say it's one individual for sake of simplicity) can perfectly replicate a human, why couldn't it think and act like a human?
I can't remember who said it in the interview, but there was also the idea floated about by the cast/crew that Things may leave the human personality to operate however it would normally and then "take over" when it needed to sabotage things or when its existence is threatened (in the latter case, transforming and separating the way Norris-Thing's head does). Maybe the Thing cells didn't activate when they should have to stop Pierce from killing himself.
Though why shooting himself in the head would matter if he's been infected, idk. Maybe they hadn't managed to take over all of the cells in time. It's a rapid process, but just being spurted with the cells real quick doesn't generally turn people. It seems to need to be a grievous wound and then the cells take over as quickly as possible and eventually form another human-clone Thing.
You can argue it doesn't make sense, and I agree it's a little silly to hear, but with how varied the Thing itself is, and how interpretive the entire movie is meant to be as far as what's conclusive, I think it works just fine.
As a HUGE fan of the movie, it's debatable if a person can be infected by the alien organism. They definitely show that a full grown thing can get you and mimic you perfectly, and it's shown that a smaller alien, the size of a forearm, can as well. One of the scientists does say he believes even a single cell can, given enough time, transform all the cells in a person into the alien organism. It's never addressed if said person would be aware it's happening. Also, it's not a virus, but what is called a super cell organism.
Holy shit you've got a lot of patrons now. Good for you :) I've just recently found you because of your Silent Hill video and I'm liking your content, you remind me of a friend I have who also has a dark sense of humour. I'm glad you're finding ways to grow your channel in the dark abyss of the algorithm :)
Hell yeah another great review from my favorite gamer ghoul on youtube! Please stay save and healthy during the winter.
It's always a good day When Grim uploads!
ya know, i can see why you'd dislike it, it's a rough game but i still appreciate it's charm.
there's a glitch you can do to clip your camera through any barrier, (it's useless in every way but it's fun to look outside the map) u have to open the companion menu (or weapon menu, i guess) while looking in either direction, but you must do it fast or it won't work
We need a new game for The Thing that takes a few ideas from Among Us lol
The guy who is infected and kills himself earlier in the game. I thought the fact that he didn't transform was supposed to show that he wasn't infected after all. Though this is later made more confusing by the virus stuff. But I haven't played this game through in a long time.
Sweet, now do the Ring game on Dreamcast
Can't help but get excited at your uploads my man. Also the 'thing' was and always has been that freaky unknown alien that replaces people, to you know.. instil paranoia and fear. Making it a virus is whack.
Actually, I just love so much this movie I had to play the game. When I was kis and saw this movie this was the scariest thing in my life (I already saw Alien, and I was like... meh). But you right it has many big letdowns, annoying glitches and I forgot the whole plot about it nearly instantly, so thank you for bringing it up. I really don't know why they not making a sequel since it was a commercial success (lookalikes Freedom Fighters).
I don't think the thing it's a virus, it's mimicking perfectly any being (so actually maybe he wasn't that alien which the Norwegians find, maybe that alien was already just a host for it. BUT At that time when the movie hit the theatres, many critics compare this nobody trusts anybody, and you need a blood test to be sure themes to the AIDS which was a new thing at the era. And AIDS kills people mostly the same way, you don't know who has it until it's late. So maybe the whole virus idea crawling from this.
Anyway appreciate your work, never stop. And I really hope some day just saw your video about Silent Hill 2.
Merry Xmas!
I played it as a child and i remember thinking that it was fairly atmospheric in the beginning, but i don't think i ever got that far into it.
EVERY DAMN TIME - like magic, or clockwork, or something. Every time I go on Grimbeard's channel (every couple of weeks) to internally bitch and grumble about the lack of a fresh upload, I go to bed and wake up to find a new video there.
You're like some kind of spooky goth Santa, or genie.
Hes a Jin, that's why Parapub keeps finding ghosties on its scans. 😁 We need to compile a case for spookhouse to get Grim on board! I would watch a show of Grim and Pug just roaming around with stranger as a sequel to Nocturne... If they can make "The Boys" in to a great show surely we can force a season of "the Grim adventures of Parapug and Stranger" the dark comedy writes itself
Hi! I found your channel from a vtmb and I'm watching your fallout 2 video now, and I just wanna say I'm loving the content! Keep up the good work, I look forward to your future videos
Thank the gods I dont believe in the Grim has blessed us with another upload, now i have a new god to worship:)
Of all the underrated youtubers I like, you're at the tippity top
Ngl I listen to your videos to sleep and was delighted to find a new one tonight 👌
Nothing like a coffee and a new Grim video
The music at 16:08 sounds real familliar and that little sound snibbit is going to drive me nuts.
I remember enjoying it. For me it was solid 4 out of 5. I love the movie, I like action horror and for me, this game did managed to successfully capture movie atmosphere.
Damn i'm early. Thanks for the content. When ever I'm in a thing phase i always listen to reviews for this game for fun.
McReady recorded over his line, "Nobody trusts anybody." So technically, they didn't omit it
Holidayman has brought me a Grim video, my goth gamer solstice celebration is already complete.
The moment at 27:55 filled me with great sadness. saaaammmmyyyyyy D':
Grimbeard Hath come to clear the absolute depression that is my day. Btw work can really suck sometimes
Hey man, I'm about 98% sure this will be my first youtube comment ever. Just wanted to let you know I love your channel and sense of humor. Appreciate all the hard work you put into these and just wanted to let you know.
So now that Cyperpunk is out, when are you going to review Control?
great video grim! in the spirit of bad video games from the early-mid 2000's with spooky aliens, you should do that one area 51 game
I love your videos, you're fucking hilarious and I love the subject matter. Editing is on point.
Its the best thing Ive seen since Civvie.
But I CANNOT STAND HOW SOFTLY YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
wow, did not expect this one, the direction of the review that is