Love the channel, your choice of sponsorship make me think I'm outta my league... You sold me on the Dog food unfortunately at over $30 a pound I'd have to be the movie star that the dog food is owned by to afford it. I got a Saint Bernard that eats over 30 lbs a month... Got any dog food recommendations for people making a realistic living???
To be clear, it's off its Atlantic, not Mediterranean coast, and thus unrelated to the Balearic Islands such as Mallorca and Menorca. I initially assumed that it was part of the latter and had to look it up. The stuff you learn when you don't mean to.
Agreed. The ppl whining and complaining need to stop and consider that the show wasn’t made catering to them. Prob shocking for the dudebros since they’re used to being centered.
all of these people commenting on a neutral and pleasant comment with insults and cursing have to be fake.... I don't know anyone in real life who has this kind of bitterness.
You really hit on some seminal wisdom about the Force in this episode: that dark side users can meditate, that the dark side isn't inherently bad but it's about what you bring with you. Really well done, Ryan and team.
are you corrupted if that was in you all along? I think that’s why she went to the dark side easily. The Jedi were corrupting her which is why she said she’s not easily corrupted.
Thank you all for staying positive on the channel throughout the years (been here since WandaVision). Even when you didn't like shows like Secret Invasion, you still were able to talk about the parts of it you really enjoyed while giving genuine and well-thought-out criticisms.
On the other hand it rings insincere for time to time, like sticking to a target. I've been here since much earlier (i remember asking for them to cover last season of the expanse) and it's rubbing me the wrong way since around phase 4. I still read between the lines but again it loses credibility. Anyway. I hope the best for them.
Here’s one that I haven’t seen pointed out.. Osha’s tattoo was dark in colour, while Mae’s was light, foreshadowing the eventual role reversal of them both
After he didn’t let Mae see his face-which Sol pointed out to him- he is letting Osha see literally all of his body. The appearance of vulnerability is a huge part of what is seductive.
Idk why people keep saying this like she didn't see him in and out of his helmet. What is he gonna do. Make a brand new helmet in a 12 hours. He didn't have a choice
I think that's a good lesson on hubris, that those that believe themselves inherently incorruptible are the most susceptible to corruption. Because they deny what's in them instead of overcoming it.
I think a direction this show is trying to go is making a distinction between involutive growth versus evolutive growth. Involutive meaning inwards, higher degree of individuation. Evolutive meaning exterior, higher degree of collectivism. The principle that is being conveyed is that what we think of as evil, is actually just straying from goodness. The Jedi in the show, while advocates of a good exterior collective, have become ‘overpowered’ and thus there is nothing balancing or binding them. The stranger seeks a life of connection and willful independence in the force, which consequently, the Jedi have outlawed. His point that he is defending himself by killing the Jedi who know him is effectively affirming that the price of his independence is the actions he must take to maintain it (slaying those whom might take his independence, in the world of individuation it’s eat or be eaten). He also wears a mask for both purposes: to enhance his individual connection with the force, and to preserve his identity, so his need not slay his opponents. This whole show is a really good essay on the right vs left path, the distinction between explorational Egoism vs Naive Egoism, and self mastery of emotion. I will not be very surprised if by the end of the series, the audiences’ sympathy isn’t directed toward the Stranger.
3:27 I’m loving this show, I can see that the character development seems to be happening in reverse order. Like with Sol we only see his connection to the Jedi and to Osha, like he was hiding his feelings until he loses everything and is now truly free (like Qimir says).
One thing that was really subtle, yet intense was when Qimir was talking about the sensory deprivation helmet, and how it was used when they were younglings, as Osha is looking over her shoulder at the helmet, feeling that temptation to go pick it up, we suddenly smash-cut to Jeki's dead body. It's like this whole episode we've been lured towards the dark side right alongside Osha, but now we're suddenly seeing firsthand what it leads to. And the through-line between being a youngling and wearing the sensory-deprivation helmet, and Qimir killing a young padawan while wearing this same kind of helmet, it's incredibly dark but also powerful and sad and heavy AF.
Got sick over the weekend and decided to watch the show without any idea about what it was or common option on it and was shocked to see people didn’t like it haha I’ve enjoyed it so far 🤷🏽♂️
I'm enjoying this show. I'd say it's among the best of the Disney+ Star Wars series. Regarding Rebecca Henderson's Vernestra Rwoh (sp?), her voice reminds me of Karen Gillan's take on Nebula.
I'm 26. Not sure if it's an age thing like that joke In how I met your mother, but I don't understand how people don't like this show. Oh my god it has delivered some of the best star wars action in decades. The fight between qimir and the group of jedi Is now easily in the top 3 live action saber fights hands down. The story is amazing that reveal of qimir as the sith, holy crap when he floated down behind osha!!!! So epic!!!! Amazing cinematography, gorgeous scenery and charecter designs. Seeing a female zabrak was quite a pleasant surprise
You are approaching it with fresh eyes and may not be a Star Wars hardcore, decades old fan. I am the same. I really enjoy SW but I’m not a die hard fan who has read all the books and been deeply immersed in the SW lore. For people like us who are only here to watch the show for entertainment with no prior knowledge of the canon, the show is great fun and excellent. It’s a perspective thing. Keep watching and make your own mind up. I’ve enjoyed all the SW spin off shows immensely. 👏🏾
One of the best episodes, and great analysis of it. What I find interesting about a whip's scar on a back is that it directly suggests slavery. Qimir said he wants freedom.
@FromTrash2Treasure having a difference of an opinion isn't Toxic. It's how you present/talk about that opinion. Most are just blantly attacking others for liking the show and acting like children. It's exhausting.
This show isn’t big on leading us on (ie, the quick twin reveal, Qimir being the not-so-secret sith). Pretty sure they showed us the lightsaber whip and Qimir’s scar so we could draw the conclusion that she scarred him.
@@conscientiousobjector5988 Eh. I don’t mind the way they are doing it. But I watch Star Wars to have fun and don’t worry so much about the critiques. Besides, nothing is more on brand for Star Wars than really interesting stories with spotty execution - including some super high highs and some very low lows- right?
@@rhochnerful I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The Star Wars I remember was rich in allegory and moral themes. There may be the occasionally goofiness but that is meant to lighten up the story, not smother it. The first two episodes of Acolyte had something going but each consecutive episode has been fumbled by the writer it was passed to.
Which could be the ultimate misdirect, to get us to focus on these too-obvious clues while missing the biggest one of all. Kind of like how Qimir is being too nice and down to earth with Osha. I think that we're heading for a major and shocking reveal at the season's conclusion (which would not just be good drama but job security to assure that there will be a second season).
@@HabaneroTi I feel like no matter what there won’t be a second season. The white neckbeard incels have been too loud about them not being at the centre of the galaxy.
Ahsoka also has the force echo ability. She uses it to find out what happened to Sabine after she was pushed off the cliff and has her fight with Anakin.
@@blairhoughton7918 because I like Star Wars? So obviously I want them to make well written stories and characters. And there are a lot of people capable of doing this
@@bleyd__ Star Wars hasn't been a source of top-quality writing since the opening crawl of Phantom Menace. You're just looking for something to gripe about. This show is fine. Sit down.
@@blairhoughton7918 it’s not about TOP quality, it’s about story integrity and actions that make sense, did you watch Mando, Andor, Clone Wars season 7 or Tales of the Jedi? There’s a huge quality gap between them and Acolyte. So it’s not like Disney can’t hire right people for this job. It was never about making masterpiece movies/stories, it’s just about the SW Universe which has its own rules
Loved that you caught that he was fighting everyone blind with the helmet on. If you take a look again at the scene, he actually fights better with it on than without it. Almost like his connection to the force is heightened from the lack of outside influence, like a blind man's hearing and sense of touch increases, great catch 👍🏾
Just to want to thank the team for the amazing job. These videos are detailed and show a neutral view of the show, allowing the smart audience to use their brain and form decisions. The hate out there is just noise and you stand out. In my opinion it's actually a pretty good show and I'm waiting every week for each episode and each eater egg videos.
People forget even with the rule of two Sideous had multiple apprentice over a short period of time. Maul, Dooku, Anakin. This could be one of the current Sith Lords potential or gap apprentices, or a Sith assassin like savage opress or Ventress.
The biggest indictment of the Jedi is that every powerful Master seems to have a student that quits and becomes a Dark Sider; it has become a cliche at this point. If you're on the Council, raise your hand if one of your padawans DIDN'T become a Sith ...
only ones I can think of are Dooku, Kylo, and Anakin. At least in the movies. I actually like Dooku and Anakin twists though. They more earned. Especially after seeing Dooku in the Jedi shorts on Disney.
To Doug's comment about Porgs being missing. It's a Planet. The scale of Star Wars is usually lost on folk. An alien landing in Australia is going to see vastly different Fauna than one landing in the Americas. Still the same planet.
But most planets (and moons) in Star wars have been shown to have a single biome, no? Tatooine, Hoth, and "the forest moon of Endor" are the obvious original examples of this.
@@jbuster9you’re right but it’s not a story strength. Star Wars has always had these flaws. It’s fine. It’s fun. We accept it. But it’s not a rule that every planet is a single biome. So I like when they don’t do it. I like when they avoid fire in space too…but they always have it. 🤣🤷♂️
@@jbuster9 I guess they could be seen as single biome, especially the examples stated, but even on earth, forest biomes have wide varieties from forest to forest. Even on the same continent. Like you won't find the same animals in the woodlands of North America as you would in the rainforests of south America, ya know? To be clear I don't necessarily think they ARE the same planet (precisely because of Star Wars' tendencies to simplify in the way you've mentioned) just saying the absence of similarities doesn't have to mean they are different planets.
I'm so angered by people opining stupidly in the Internet that they find it non-sensical Sol couldn't feel Mae or tell her apart from Osha instantly. The series shows you how, why and even the dialogue suggests this is because they see what they want to see. Sol is a Jedi Master, alright, but do you really think he's not distraught after that fight? In which by the way, his entire team and Padawan were slaughtered, no less. They show it, people ignore it. I wonder what kind of shows is that they expect to see. This show is raising the bar, and everything anyone would wish they'd see from an era that led to the Jedi's downfall.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
the bug that attacked vernestra only comes out of night and is attracted to light remember, so when its day and vernestra doesn't have saber on it was either meant to show her whip or to show that there's something dark about her
Cortosis only shorts out Lightsabers in its raw ore form, like iron. When refined into alloys, like steel, it's Lightsaber resistant. But it can't create the feedback to short out the blade. I think the helmet is so rough and cracked because it's raw Cortosis. Which is also very brittle.
When Osha asks why she never heard of him when she was a padawan...he said it happened a very long time ago. And we know Venestra lives very long....so he could have been her padawan and then spent time in statis before coming out in this time period. Her keeping his darkside fall as her padawan a secret appears in line with her current MO of keeping things from the council.
I hate dramatic hacks like stasis and consciousness transfer to retcon your way out of situations. Let's hope that they didn't resort to one here again and that Qimir is from a more recent timeline. Because when you do these things too often, it all becomes kind of random and meaningless.
I think he was her Padawan a long time again, she injured him, and in an attempt to heal him and/or keep him from running, put him in statis. Qimir either escaped or was freed by another party.
@@HabaneroTiit can definitely be overused, but it’s science fiction! I expect this kind of tomfoolery from the future. The show Altered Carbon was based around those two tropes and great sci-fi writers like Alistair Reynolds and Iain M. Banks use it to travel across space and millennia. It’s core to science fiction and space drama. But, yeah, it can be done wrong.
I have been watching for more than four years, and I am still surprised how good you are to transition to the ad. You guys are amazing, now please make a shirt that says I'm just so smoll, or a screencrush >heavy spoilers shirt
I thought it was a good episode! Getting to see the Evil master be kind to Osha while the Good master was cruel to Mae was a cool twist on expectations
The eye slit in Qimir's helmet is very similar to an invention by the Inuit. They developed goggles, made from bone, with a very narrow eye slit. This is to protect them from bright light and snow blindness, while allowing them to see (though with a limited field of view). Bright light / light side?
Did anyone else notice that when Vernestra and Sol didn't show any emotion when they killed the umbramoths, but Osha was sad when the umbramoths were killed?
I think Qimir was one of the Force senstative kids that was taken under... Less friendly means and eventually ran from a Jedi master that didnt treat him well. He ended up with a Sith master for a while only to realize that he was trading one set of rules and abuses for another. So he struck out on his own.
To hear someone say something positive about this show is refreshing. Ppl hate this show so much they can’t see the cinematic gold before them. They literally hate every sentence being said!
@@michmill7007 that needs to be on a shirt! True statement, and I once was a hater but rewatch the most recent trilogy, I grew to like it and respect the cinematography.
That because there no GOLD here. Only bad written and bad acting, Pfft this is why Taylor swift are poplular because people like you dont even know what good cinema or good song look like.
@blairhoughton7918 the way she was acting. Like she has been sketchy from jump. Like she never wanted any info getting past her. She never wanted it to go further than her. Plus the fact she sent a team to that planet without approval and all. Ho back and watch. The signs are there.
I’ve been huge Star Wars fan since first saw in movies at 9 yrs old! Even got my mom to take me to see it again which was pretty unusual for my parents! It was at that time, in 1977 that I decided to someday name my son Luke ( also hoped I’d have 4 sons so I could name them Luke, Mark, Han and Harrison 😂😂😂Thankfully I snapped out of that stupidity 🙄 Finally in 1995 I DID name my first son Luke though ❤️🤘🏻 ) while I do have few cherished items, I’m not at all an obsessive collector of Star Wars merch. I’ve just ALWAYS loved these films and am now enjoying how much this universe has expanded and am loving that MY Luke proudly tells people who he’s named after and is also a huge fan. I know it could’ve gone either way 😉😂 Long story LONGER - I love your channel and always forward these SW recaps to my Luke. Sorry for babbling 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️😉
I don't understand all the hate. Star Wars fans are so eager to hate the next thing, they start hating it before it even gets released or before the story is finished. Biggest problem is Star Wars fans expect all Star Wars media catered specifically to their wants with very little to no consideration what others want to see and experiance. I personally watch, read, play all Star Wars content, well working on it at least. I do enjoy it all and I do have my opinions but some of it just isn't my taste but thats fine becouse I know others will enjoy it more than me. Doesn't mean if some Star Wars media isn't for me I should put all my effort into hating it. I just enjoy what I can from it and move on to the next thing.
Not everything needs to be enjoyable for everyone. I found Andor being a a bit of a snooze for example, but could recognize it having quality and thus appeal to others. The Acolyte on the other hand... is just so badly written and cringeworthy.
The problem is the show runners prefacing the wrong things before releasing the show i love this show so far but there are so many things they said before releasing it that created a bad taste in the mouth of the fans which is not good, just look at what happened with snow white and rachel zieglar they created a culture that simply didnt need to happen
5:29 - the island of Madeira was extensively used as a location for this series. I visited the island around 16 month ago and Disney had sectioned off half of the town of Porto Moniz to film there. If you look close at some of the mountain shots you’ll also see the man-made levadas that run all over the island too
After watching the sixth episode of The Acolyte, I feel this show would have been ten times more interesting if Smilo Ren were the main character and the show focused on his fall to the dark side and Master Sol was his former Jedi Master. They are the only characters I care about. But that's just me. Like the show or hate it, these two characters and their actors, Manny Jacinto and Lee Jung-jae, are carrying the show.
we really dont know much about this master though. like he could be thousands of years old or a just a lost jedi like he implies. He made it really weird when he said a long time ago after Osha said she hadnt heard of him considerring he appears as only a few years older than her. but i do think focusing more on the bad guys is something needed in SW. Would love to see a Vader series where he is taking out remaining jedi and terrorizing the galaxy.
Except Manny is not queer, melanated, or female. I'm serious about this. Disney shouldn't cave to anti-DEI but stay the course, farming for better talent. Disappointed Yord and Jecki were...yeeted and jacked. I wanted to see more of their development, actually. 12 1-hour episodes under the same total budget would have made a better span for storytelling...granted the storyteller actually knows how to do that. Just sayin. 🤷♂
@ColonelStan agreed. I avoid trailers these days because they give away too much, so I went in blind for the most part with only information from the synopsis and things said by channels like this leading up to it. I was expecting the same, a show about the sith from their point of view. Not 1/4 of the show about that. Kinda disappointed, was hoping for exactly what you said.
@@conscientiousobjector5988 errr but he is "melanated", a lot more so than pedro pascal, and Dieago luna, you know the other male star wars leads. So dry your eyes and just enjoy the rest of the show
I've said this before, and I'll say it again for those in the back covering their ears yelling "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!!!!" This entire story ties in with something Obi-Wan told Luke in Return of the Jedi: "You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on *our own point of view.*" There's something else, though.... Qimir may be attempting to manipulate Osha, but he isn't actually lying to her. In the Prequel Trilogy, the only lie Palpatine ever told Anakin was "in your anger, YOU killed her." Everything else he said to Anakin was the truth. Even Yoda was blinded to this fact when Dooku revealed Darth Sidious to Obi-Wan, and Yoda dismissed it as a lie. The Jedi, believing their shit didn't stink, brought forth their own downfall by refusing to see all of the threats emerge one after the other. Qimir didn't lie to Osha, but how many lies did Sol tell her? What REALLY is the reason she left the Jedi Order? Vernestra wanted her training nixed, and she likely wasn't alone. Osha may have left on her own, but did she really have a choice, or was it "if you don't resign, you're fired" kind of a thing? Also, why do I get the feeling that Qimir is a lot older than he currently appears? Anyone think he might go through a Palpatine/Darth Sidious" transition at some point? I expect that next week, we're going to find out what happened 16 years ago, and it's going to really put the Jedi in a bad light. "All who gain power fear to lose it, even the Jedi." And with the Jedi, they are literally the "state sanctioned guardians/enforcers of who can and can't use The Force." Remember something else Anakin said, "From MY point of view the Jedi are evil!" No villain ever truly sees themselves as a villain. If the Jedi weren't such "gate keepers" where who can use The Force is, Qimir might not have felt threatened and (in his eyes) defend himself so vigorously. As the one Mother said early on, "This is about power, and who is allowed to use it". That is an absolute fact. But now, Mae and Osha have switched places, and are going to learn each other's side of things. I also wonder if there's some "presence" in that helmet of Qimirs... or if he will fashion some gear for her out of cortosis. That would accomplish two things: Allow her to defend herself against the Jedi (who are going to lose their shit when they find out he's been influencing her), and to sow a measure of trust between them. Granted, he pretty much offered her a measure of trust when he knew she had followed him to the watering hole, got himself nekkid, went for a swim, let her disarm him by taking his lightsaber (which, leaving with his clothes was intentional), and even offered to let her kill him. Though I don't doubt that if he truly felt threatened, he could have defended himself without the lightsaber. Yes, I see people throwing a fit, about how "boring" this episode was, and how "shit" the series is..... but I completely disagree. We learned a good bit this episode, but some people were just too busy looking for something to bitch about, all of that was lost on them. Sucks to be THAT filled with hatred for something, that you watch it specifically to shit on it. Don't you have something better to do?
My favorite Star Wars Easter Egg is when Darth Vader's mask is being lowered, the bit of metal on the forehead and between the eyes is a hard drive seek arm from old platter hard drives.
I honestly think next week's episode is going to open with Sol telling Mae everything that happened 16 years ago, but with Osha wearing the helmet, she'll be connected to Mae at the same time and she'll hear everything Sol is telling her. Which is what will push both sisters in the opposite direction of where they started from.
THAT would be very interesting and a well written plot device.... and that's why it probably won't happen... it would require good writing and we haven't seen that yet.
If that’s the case then the whole trying to play into the Jedi being in the wrong was stupid. It’s either the Jedi did something horrible and Mae will be even more bloodthirsty or the Jedi actually did nothing but defend themselves. Which would mean both Osha and Mae should side with the Jedi. It can’t be both ways. It would make no sense.
Really liked the episode: Master Sol appeared like a Serialkiller at the end, the work with the light and shadow onboard the Jedi ship created such a tense atmosphere. Thanks for the super fast easter egg video!
@@liferealgoodAnd felt really bad about it the same time - I don‘t know if I should dislike Sol or just have pity with him. He seemed so troubled right from the moment he met Osha again - and now he completely lost it 😢
It's actually the first instance of awful writing that I've seen in this series (despite all the whining from the clown gallery). Unless there's a flashback in a later episode that tells us Osha is that damaged. And she's pretty damaged now, but not that damaged.
I liked the episode, I do feel like they’re dragging on this secret that sol’s been carrying and it needs to be a MASSIVE twist to live up to the hype that the show itself has created. I’m enjoying the show and breakdowns.
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Star Wars fans have always been kind of trash. They trashed the prequels and the prequal actors the same way. The exact same way. The fans are the reason Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney.
@@larynOneka8080 He sold it because he knew he was not doing it justice since like 1984 and they offered him 4,000,000,000.00 dollars for it. Don't try to excuse the bigots abusing this show by comparing them to the critics calling Lucas out for mangling the prequels. That's a totally false equivalence.
5:20, Leslye Headland confirmed in an interview with Collider that it was a new planet, filmed on the Portuguese island of Madeira, and was meant to resemble Ahch-To.
So that made something light up in my head. If they put out these episodes like 10 minutes after the show premieres, how do they include thanks to random people from social media who point out Easter eggs in it? Is there a secret society of fans who get to watch these things in pre-drop screeners?
Doug is one of the best parts of every single one of these videos, and the way you incorporate him into your videos while making hilarious skits is awesome. Keep it up!❤
I’ve heard others say that Qimir’s scar looked like it was from Venestra’s whip, though to me it looks like a scar from lightning, sith force lighting.
His scar is shaped like a y, which is very possible if you imagine the loop of a wip being semi blocked by a blade. The arc of the wip might look like ➰, so if thr bottom of that loop doesn’t make contact or is blocked it would leave a ‘y’ shaped impression. If it was lightning it would probably be even more fractal like. Also consider the fact that Qimir is trying to build gear that interferes with saber equipment as a means of deterrence.
This episode was actually more interesting, glad to see it's evolving into something better executed because the concept is great, just gotta smooth out the execution 😌 Plus all of the conflict and things being said from both people related to the show itself and haters is being disgusting, both parts should be ashamed.
It really wasn't. The only interesting part was the "tempting" of Osha, but it was constantly interrupted with the meandering and stupid subplots that are just filler.
@@Peterski I still think the concept is great, execution is ass like 90%, that´s my opinion and you don´t have to share it, so basically I agree with your point yet I did find it more story driven rather than ¨loading screen¨ driven
You have to wait almost all the way through the end credits, but then there’s a very clear articulation of Kylo Ren’s theme, maybe the clearest yet. I was surprised I had to wait so long to hear it, but it was worth it!
A couple of elements stood out as interesting, somewhat similar between characters shown. First, in Qimir's conversations with Osha, he would address her questions often with asking her a question in return, to see how she would respond. Vernestra used this exact technique also while exploring Khofar with her male jedi team member, answering the questions he asked her by asking him a question in return. This element further made me feel there will definitely be a connection in the past with Qimir and Vernestra, probably at one time she was his jedi master. Also, in this episode when Sol telling Mae (posing as Osha) that he's resolved to go to the Jedi high council and tell them everything (not just what happened on the mission to Khofar, but also come clean with what actually happened on Brendock). I thought this was somewhat similar to when Mae shown in episode 4 proclaimed to Qimir (before she found out he was the "master") her new resolve to turn herself into the Jedi, etc. And now both find themselves alone together in this situation on his ship. While Mae never did follow through with her proclaimed intention, I don't think Sol is going to make it back to complete his intention either to come clean with the Jedi high council . I predict Osha will kill Sol in the last episode, completing her turn to the dark side. Qimir seems to know what really happened on Brendock. Perhaps Qimir's next step will be to take Osha back with him to Brendock, but I think both sisters will find out the truth in the next episode somehow. Given the emphasis on Osha's strong attachment to Sol in this episode, when Osha finds out about whatever Sol's true involvement was, her feelings toward Sol will turn hateful with betrayal, and I think this will set up the events of final episode. I'm also curious to see if Qimir may have a confrontation with Vernestra in the end episode, and if he ends up taking her out as well.
The line "it's only after you've lost everything that you're free" is verbatim (slightly abbreviated) from Fight Club "it's only after you've lost everything that you're free to do anything"
@@EvanAdnams The sentiment behind the quote is as old as Plato, but the word for word quote is from Fight Club. I'm very happy to be proved wrong if you can show me an earlier instance. SC has mentioned in previous videos that Headland reportedly made the cast and crew watch Fight Club prior to filming. I'm totally with you that FC was ridiculing the very people who ended up worshipping it.
I loved the last two episodes, I feel like the show runner is being brave with the portrayal of light and dark. Reminds me of the last Jedi in some ways.
Could you please explain what you mean by being brave with the portrayal of light and dark cause all I'm seeing is shades of grey and no light or dark... and there IS pure light and pure dark in the Star Wars universe. What I see is that the showrunner is showing they grey side of the force and not really touching on light or dark.
We’ve seen this story to many times already. We seen it in the prequels, the sequels and now shows. It’s like ok we get it, there are some Jedi who are terrible. Time to move on and show that most of the Jedi are still the heroes trying their best to keep the universe in order. My problem with modern Hollywood is they want to do away with good bs evil and instead make it about perspectives. That can work but it doesn’t need to be done in every single entertainment property. Star Wars will always be its best when it’s good vs evil, light vs dark, the Jedi vs the Sith.
I'm starting to think that whilst Qimir is A Sith..he is not part of THE Sith. Perhaps he's like Exar Kun, learning of the Sith and 'reviving' them in his own image...unaware that they are not actually gone.
Qimir only referred to himself as a Sith because that is what some Jedi would label him as such. Doesn't mean he isn't one though. The rule of two forbids multiple Sith so we may get a resolution to that by the end.
Interesting that Qimir starts by giving her the light saber, when is the exact same thing with his saber, except she was a small child. I think it shows how easily Osha can be swayed and that Sol has some darkness going on
I compared the shot of the island zooming out during before the opening crawl, compared to the scenes where Osha met Qimir during the ending of Episode 1. They met right outside where Qimie's cave is. And it is the Same planet and place
I gotta say I really enjoyed this episode. It handled some topics I did not expect a disney era star wars show to tackle and it did it well. Now if only they had Rey switch sides as well...
This show has been really well written. I just hope the ending lives up to it. I’m hoping they directly tie it into the prequels and possibly indirectly into how “Palpatine returned”
My wife noticed Sol's Black gloves when he leans over the restrained Mae and got all weird about to make her listen to whatever he has been trippin' on for 16 years. I went back and found that he and other characters wore the same black gloves in a nuimber of scenes going back to the memory events on Brendok. It is interesting which scenes he does have them on or off though. The black gloves is almost as big a tell in star wars as the color of a light saber.
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Just because you have a TH-cam channel doesn't mean you're right. 🤡
Blindly calling people haters with out debating or arguing you point of view is not proving your point
Love the channel, your choice of sponsorship make me think I'm outta my league... You sold me on the Dog food unfortunately at over $30 a pound I'd have to be the movie star that the dog food is owned by to afford it. I got a Saint Bernard that eats over 30 lbs a month... Got any dog food recommendations for people making a realistic living???
Incorrect the Sith are not more powerful and their way is not necessarily easier.
The show is definitely hilariously bad
The unknown planet was filmed on Madeira Island, a Portuguese island off the coast of Morocco. I lived there as a kid it's stunning and worth a visit.
That's so cool!!
so the unknown planet is Earth... this changes everything!
Let me find out this is Ach-To....🫡😎
To be clear, it's off its Atlantic, not Mediterranean coast, and thus unrelated to the Balearic Islands such as Mallorca and Menorca. I initially assumed that it was part of the latter and had to look it up.
The stuff you learn when you don't mean to.
wow so thats your highlight man so low
i think its refreshing to have a team actually analyzing this show from a neutral standpoint. All the hate is getting really annoying
It’s short and kind of boring maybe not hate needed but isn’t good….. if wasn’t Star Wars would’ve been cancelled already
Yeah you have a great point, it is refreshing…Because this show is the worst dog 💩 I have ever seen, absolute trash.
This guy gets notes passed too him to attempt making sense of the show. The fact that it has to be defended proves its garbage.
Agreed. The ppl whining and complaining need to stop and consider that the show wasn’t made catering to them. Prob shocking for the dudebros since they’re used to being centered.
all of these people commenting on a neutral and pleasant comment with insults and cursing have to be fake.... I don't know anyone in real life who has this kind of bitterness.
Knights of Ren implies there's an Order of Stimpy
At this rate... I wouldn't be surprised....
Yes please!
Space…madness!
Comment of the day!
This^
You really hit on some seminal wisdom about the Force in this episode: that dark side users can meditate, that the dark side isn't inherently bad but it's about what you bring with you. Really well done, Ryan and team.
Osha: im not as easily corrupted as my sister
Also osha 5 minutes later: starts to be easily corrupted.
It kinda goes along with the rest of the flip flop attitudes of both Mae and Osha.
Most people think they are not easily corrupted
Or, know your enemy?
are you corrupted if that was in you all along? I think that’s why she went to the dark side easily. The Jedi were corrupting her which is why she said she’s not easily corrupted.
Qimir's lightsaber has that effect. 😉
Thank you all for staying positive on the channel throughout the years (been here since WandaVision). Even when you didn't like shows like Secret Invasion, you still were able to talk about the parts of it you really enjoyed while giving genuine and well-thought-out criticisms.
On the other hand it rings insincere for time to time, like sticking to a target. I've been here since much earlier (i remember asking for them to cover last season of the expanse) and it's rubbing me the wrong way since around phase 4. I still read between the lines but again it loses credibility. Anyway. I hope the best for them.
Here’s one that I haven’t seen pointed out.. Osha’s tattoo was dark in colour, while Mae’s was light, foreshadowing the eventual role reversal of them both
After he didn’t let Mae see his face-which Sol pointed out to him- he is letting Osha see literally all of his body. The appearance of vulnerability is a huge part of what is seductive.
I think he's trying something new. He's powerful in the Force, but he doesn't know how to recruit well.
Idk why people keep saying this like she didn't see him in and out of his helmet. What is he gonna do. Make a brand new helmet in a 12 hours. He didn't have a choice
Osha says she's not easily corrupted as she spent the whole episode being corrupted.
Hubris
I think that's a good lesson on hubris, that those that believe themselves inherently incorruptible are the most susceptible to corruption. Because they deny what's in them instead of overcoming it.
That's what The Stranger told him, it is her strength.
Wasn't easy tho 😂
I think a direction this show is trying to go is making a distinction between involutive growth versus evolutive growth. Involutive meaning inwards, higher degree of individuation. Evolutive meaning exterior, higher degree of collectivism.
The principle that is being conveyed is that what we think of as evil, is actually just straying from goodness. The Jedi in the show, while advocates of a good exterior collective, have become ‘overpowered’ and thus there is nothing balancing or binding them. The stranger seeks a life of connection and willful independence in the force, which consequently, the Jedi have outlawed. His point that he is defending himself by killing the Jedi who know him is effectively affirming that the price of his independence is the actions he must take to maintain it (slaying those whom might take his independence, in the world of individuation it’s eat or be eaten).
He also wears a mask for both purposes: to enhance his individual connection with the force, and to preserve his identity, so his need not slay his opponents.
This whole show is a really good essay on the right vs left path, the distinction between explorational Egoism vs Naive Egoism, and self mastery of emotion. I will not be very surprised if by the end of the series, the audiences’ sympathy isn’t directed toward the Stranger.
3:27 I’m loving this show, I can see that the character development seems to be happening in reverse order. Like with Sol we only see his connection to the Jedi and to Osha, like he was hiding his feelings until he loses everything and is now truly free (like Qimir says).
One thing that was really subtle, yet intense was when Qimir was talking about the sensory deprivation helmet, and how it was used when they were younglings, as Osha is looking over her shoulder at the helmet, feeling that temptation to go pick it up, we suddenly smash-cut to Jeki's dead body. It's like this whole episode we've been lured towards the dark side right alongside Osha, but now we're suddenly seeing firsthand what it leads to. And the through-line between being a youngling and wearing the sensory-deprivation helmet, and Qimir killing a young padawan while wearing this same kind of helmet, it's incredibly dark but also powerful and sad and heavy AF.
Got sick over the weekend and decided to watch the show without any idea about what it was or common option on it and was shocked to see people didn’t like it haha I’ve enjoyed it so far 🤷🏽♂️
I'm enjoying this show. I'd say it's among the best of the Disney+ Star Wars series. Regarding Rebecca Henderson's Vernestra Rwoh (sp?), her voice reminds me of Karen Gillan's take on Nebula.
And then you see Karen Gillan in anything else and realize she acted the hell out of Nebula.
I'm 26. Not sure if it's an age thing like that joke In how I met your mother, but I don't understand how people don't like this show. Oh my god it has delivered some of the best star wars action in decades. The fight between qimir and the group of jedi Is now easily in the top 3 live action saber fights hands down. The story is amazing that reveal of qimir as the sith, holy crap when he floated down behind osha!!!! So epic!!!! Amazing cinematography, gorgeous scenery and charecter designs. Seeing a female zabrak was quite a pleasant surprise
You are approaching it with fresh eyes and may not be a Star Wars hardcore, decades old fan. I am the same. I really enjoy SW but I’m not a die hard fan who has read all the books and been deeply immersed in the SW lore. For people like us who are only here to watch the show for entertainment with no prior knowledge of the canon, the show is great fun and excellent. It’s a perspective thing. Keep watching and make your own mind up. I’ve enjoyed all the SW spin off shows immensely. 👏🏾
One of the best episodes, and great analysis of it. What I find interesting about a whip's scar on a back is that it directly suggests slavery. Qimir said he wants freedom.
The Jedi at this point do seem very authoritarian. But later that's totally the Sith. Have to wonder what they do to flip it.
love your videos. one of the very few creators offering non-toxic coverage of star wars media. much appreciated.
For real, I appreciate the heck out of it.
Couldn't have said it better myself
Having a differing opinion is toxic?
@@FromTrash2Treasurecorrect! Must love all things Disney - no critiques allowed!
@FromTrash2Treasure having a difference of an opinion isn't Toxic. It's how you present/talk about that opinion. Most are just blantly attacking others for liking the show and acting like children. It's exhausting.
This show isn’t big on leading us on (ie, the quick twin reveal, Qimir being the not-so-secret sith). Pretty sure they showed us the lightsaber whip and Qimir’s scar so we could draw the conclusion that she scarred him.
Like we're preschoolers. I got it. 👌
@@conscientiousobjector5988 Eh. I don’t mind the way they are doing it. But I watch Star Wars to have fun and don’t worry so much about the critiques. Besides, nothing is more on brand for Star Wars than really interesting stories with spotty execution - including some super high highs and some very low lows- right?
@@rhochnerful I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The Star Wars I remember was rich in allegory and moral themes. There may be the occasionally goofiness but that is meant to lighten up the story, not smother it. The first two episodes of Acolyte had something going but each consecutive episode has been fumbled by the writer it was passed to.
Which could be the ultimate misdirect, to get us to focus on these too-obvious clues while missing the biggest one of all. Kind of like how Qimir is being too nice and down to earth with Osha. I think that we're heading for a major and shocking reveal at the season's conclusion (which would not just be good drama but job security to assure that there will be a second season).
@@HabaneroTi I feel like no matter what there won’t be a second season. The white neckbeard incels have been too loud about them not being at the centre of the galaxy.
Ahsoka also has the force echo ability. She uses it to find out what happened to Sabine after she was pushed off the cliff and has her fight with Anakin.
Dont understand the hate, its a decent show. Glad I was able to make my own opinion based off what I see not what im told too.
brother, the script doesn’t make any sense. Do you know what a good series/movie looks like?
@@bleyd__ Why don't you go watch one of those?
@@blairhoughton7918 because I like Star Wars? So obviously I want them to make well written stories and characters. And there are a lot of people capable of doing this
@@bleyd__ Star Wars hasn't been a source of top-quality writing since the opening crawl of Phantom Menace. You're just looking for something to gripe about. This show is fine. Sit down.
@@blairhoughton7918 it’s not about TOP quality, it’s about story integrity and actions that make sense, did you watch Mando, Andor, Clone Wars season 7 or Tales of the Jedi? There’s a huge quality gap between them and Acolyte. So it’s not like Disney can’t hire right people for this job. It was never about making masterpiece movies/stories, it’s just about the SW Universe which has its own rules
Loved that you caught that he was fighting everyone blind with the helmet on. If you take a look again at the scene, he actually fights better with it on than without it. Almost like his connection to the force is heightened from the lack of outside influence, like a blind man's hearing and sense of touch increases, great catch 👍🏾
Kind of like Luke the first time he stopped the remote from zapping him.
Just to want to thank the team for the amazing job. These videos are detailed and show a neutral view of the show, allowing the smart audience to use their brain and form decisions. The hate out there is just noise and you stand out.
In my opinion it's actually a pretty good show and I'm waiting every week for each episode and each eater egg videos.
Liking how the show dives into the Sith's perspective on the Force 🔥🔥🔥
This video is almost as long as the episode 😂
I just want to say I can’t tell you enough how much I appreciate you not bashing the show.
There's enough bozos in here in the comments bashing it that the channel doesn't need to.
Qimir 100% isn’t Darth Plageuis. It’s pretty obvious he’s a Sith apprentice or acolyte himself, not a Master
People forget even with the rule of two Sideous had multiple apprentice over a short period of time. Maul, Dooku, Anakin. This could be one of the current Sith Lords potential or gap
apprentices, or a Sith assassin like savage opress or Ventress.
I hope so, I'd love to see live action versions of both those aliens instead.
He's Ren
Has the rule of two ever been followed? lol I mean at this point that has to be the most unfollowed rule in the galaxy.
@@vjtm7061no he isn’t
The biggest indictment of the Jedi is that every powerful Master seems to have a student that quits and becomes a Dark Sider; it has become a cliche at this point. If you're on the Council, raise your hand if one of your padawans DIDN'T become a Sith ...
Truth... at this point you'd think that would be the 1st thought, not the last. Mystery force user?... Who's padawan is missing?
@@zerolegacy7821 I'm sure if they used logical deductive reasoning as Jedi masters, then can figure it out
only ones I can think of are Dooku, Kylo, and Anakin. At least in the movies. I actually like Dooku and Anakin twists though. They more earned. Especially after seeing Dooku in the Jedi shorts on Disney.
@@weltonspratley4367 And that's the rub though, isn't it? I've yet to see a logical deductive Jedi in this show, lol.
They recruit, or rather manipulate and coerce, infants into a military cult. That is bad.
To Doug's comment about Porgs being missing. It's a Planet. The scale of Star Wars is usually lost on folk. An alien landing in Australia is going to see vastly different Fauna than one landing in the Americas. Still the same planet.
Nice observation
But most planets (and moons) in Star wars have been shown to have a single biome, no? Tatooine, Hoth, and "the forest moon of Endor" are the obvious original examples of this.
@@jbuster9you’re right but it’s not a story strength. Star Wars has always had these flaws. It’s fine. It’s fun. We accept it. But it’s not a rule that every planet is a single biome. So I like when they don’t do it. I like when they avoid fire in space too…but they always have it. 🤣🤷♂️
@@jbuster9 I guess they could be seen as single biome, especially the examples stated, but even on earth, forest biomes have wide varieties from forest to forest. Even on the same continent. Like you won't find the same animals in the woodlands of North America as you would in the rainforests of south America, ya know? To be clear I don't necessarily think they ARE the same planet (precisely because of Star Wars' tendencies to simplify in the way you've mentioned) just saying the absence of similarities doesn't have to mean they are different planets.
The scale of Star Wars is also lost on the writers. They get from Coruscant to the Outer Rim in like 3 minutes...
I'm so angered by people opining stupidly in the Internet that they find it non-sensical Sol couldn't feel Mae or tell her apart from Osha instantly. The series shows you how, why and even the dialogue suggests this is because they see what they want to see. Sol is a Jedi Master, alright, but do you really think he's not distraught after that fight? In which by the way, his entire team and Padawan were slaughtered, no less. They show it, people ignore it. I wonder what kind of shows is that they expect to see.
This show is raising the bar, and everything anyone would wish they'd see from an era that led to the Jedi's downfall.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
The Jeckie 3-hole punch joke? Too soon, Ryan. Too soon!!
😂😂
the bug that attacked vernestra only comes out of night and is attracted to light remember, so when its day and vernestra doesn't have saber on it was either meant to show her whip or to show that there's something dark about her
It was 100% to show her whip and give her a cool girl boss moment as the actress is the showrunners wife.
Cortosis only shorts out Lightsabers in its raw ore form, like iron. When refined into alloys, like steel, it's Lightsaber resistant. But it can't create the feedback to short out the blade.
I think the helmet is so rough and cracked because it's raw Cortosis. Which is also very brittle.
Qimir was perfectly casted. Crushing it!
When Osha asks why she never heard of him when she was a padawan...he said it happened a very long time ago. And we know Venestra lives very long....so he could have been her padawan and then spent time in statis before coming out in this time period. Her keeping his darkside fall as her padawan a secret appears in line with her current MO of keeping things from the council.
I had the same thoughts. Q was V padawan
I hate dramatic hacks like stasis and consciousness transfer to retcon your way out of situations. Let's hope that they didn't resort to one here again and that Qimir is from a more recent timeline. Because when you do these things too often, it all becomes kind of random and meaningless.
I think he was her Padawan a long time again, she injured him, and in an attempt to heal him and/or keep him from running, put him in statis. Qimir either escaped or was freed by another party.
@@HabaneroTiit can definitely be overused, but it’s science fiction! I expect this kind of tomfoolery from the future. The show Altered Carbon was based around those two tropes and great sci-fi writers like Alistair Reynolds and Iain M. Banks use it to travel across space and millennia. It’s core to science fiction and space drama. But, yeah, it can be done wrong.
I have been watching for more than four years, and I am still surprised how good you are to transition to the ad. You guys are amazing, now please make a shirt that says I'm just so smoll, or a screencrush >heavy spoilers shirt
Also "the stranger" is probably the best addition to star wars in a long time
This show would be great if you took all of the mae and osha stuff out and it was ironically specifically created for that actress
Looks like a goofy horror mask
What did you think of the episode?
I thought it was a good episode! Getting to see the Evil master be kind to Osha while the Good master was cruel to Mae was a cool twist on expectations
I liked it.
Solid episode. Feels like they stretched this season from 6 to 8 episodes
Just awful writing and acting since episode 1.
@@wolflarson71 Thank God someone who feels the same, reading all the positive comments feels like gaslighting. This show is so cringe
The eye slit in Qimir's helmet is very similar to an invention by the Inuit. They developed goggles, made from bone, with a very narrow eye slit. This is to protect them from bright light and snow blindness, while allowing them to see (though with a limited field of view). Bright light / light side?
Did anyone else notice that when Vernestra and Sol didn't show any emotion when they killed the umbramoths, but Osha was sad when the umbramoths were killed?
I just love star wars. More star wars is always better to me than less star wars.
I think Qimir was one of the Force senstative kids that was taken under... Less friendly means and eventually ran from a Jedi master that didnt treat him well. He ended up with a Sith master for a while only to realize that he was trading one set of rules and abuses for another. So he struck out on his own.
To hear someone say something positive about this show is refreshing. Ppl hate this show so much they can’t see the cinematic gold before them. They literally hate every sentence being said!
No one hates star wars more than star wars fans.
The hate makes them stronget
@@michmill7007 that needs to be on a shirt! True statement, and I once was a hater but rewatch the most recent trilogy, I grew to like it and respect the cinematography.
That because there no GOLD here.
Only bad written and bad acting, Pfft this is why Taylor swift are poplular because people like you dont even know what good cinema or good song look like.
@@theesitchaowalittawil1935 bad acting ?!? From who
I have been saying since the first episode was over that Vernestra is the one behind it all. I'm sticking with that now more than ever.
Okay, what was the clue in the first episode?
@blairhoughton7918 the way she was acting. Like she has been sketchy from jump. Like she never wanted any info getting past her. She never wanted it to go further than her. Plus the fact she sent a team to that planet without approval and all. Ho back and watch. The signs are there.
@@cyfloriana It just looked like bureaucracy in action at that point. I guess we know now why that's a bad thing.
Actually really like the show, that helmet and sabre designs on point
Always enjoy your reviews. Thanks and stay awesome!!
Thanks for watching and donating! We'll stay awesome if you do (should be easy).
I’ve been huge Star Wars fan since first saw in movies at 9 yrs old! Even got my mom to take me to see it again which was pretty unusual for my parents! It was at that time, in 1977 that I decided to someday name my son Luke ( also hoped I’d have 4 sons so I could name them Luke, Mark, Han and Harrison 😂😂😂Thankfully I snapped out of that stupidity 🙄 Finally in 1995 I DID name my first son Luke though ❤️🤘🏻 ) while I do have few cherished items, I’m not at all an obsessive collector of Star Wars merch. I’ve just ALWAYS loved these films and am now enjoying how much this universe has expanded and am loving that MY Luke proudly tells people who he’s named after and is also a huge fan. I know it could’ve gone either way 😉😂
Long story LONGER - I love your channel and always forward these SW recaps to my Luke.
Sorry for babbling 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️😉
This show isn't perfect, but I always end up respecting the attention to detail and canon 100x more after watching these breakdowns
Thanks Ryan. I am also enjoying this. Some execution issues, for sure, but old heads are digging it!
50 shades of Syth
Hahahahaha
I understood that reference.
More please 😂
I don't understand all the hate. Star Wars fans are so eager to hate the next thing, they start hating it before it even gets released or before the story is finished. Biggest problem is Star Wars fans expect all Star Wars media catered specifically to their wants with very little to no consideration what others want to see and experiance. I personally watch, read, play all Star Wars content, well working on it at least. I do enjoy it all and I do have my opinions but some of it just isn't my taste but thats fine becouse I know others will enjoy it more than me. Doesn't mean if some Star Wars media isn't for me I should put all my effort into hating it. I just enjoy what I can from it and move on to the next thing.
Nah andor was legit well
Done stuff, alcolyte is dog 💩 that’s been left on the sidewalk.
Not everything needs to be enjoyable for everyone. I found Andor being a a bit of a snooze for example, but could recognize it having quality and thus appeal to others. The Acolyte on the other hand... is just so badly written and cringeworthy.
So it's fair to say neather one of you have seen ScreenCrush's episodes.
@@CT7567Rex No I'd say that's unfair to say. But I still find Acolyte being absolutely horrific.
The problem is the show runners prefacing the wrong things before releasing the show i love this show so far but there are so many things they said before releasing it that created a bad taste in the mouth of the fans which is not good, just look at what happened with snow white and rachel zieglar they created a culture that simply didnt need to happen
5:29 - the island of Madeira was extensively used as a location for this series. I visited the island around 16 month ago and Disney had sectioned off half of the town of Porto Moniz to film there. If you look close at some of the mountain shots you’ll also see the man-made levadas that run all over the island too
After watching the sixth episode of The Acolyte, I feel this show would have been ten times more interesting if Smilo Ren were the main character and the show focused on his fall to the dark side and Master Sol was his former Jedi Master. They are the only characters I care about.
But that's just me. Like the show or hate it, these two characters and their actors, Manny Jacinto and Lee Jung-jae, are carrying the show.
Agreed that through 6 episodes the only character I have any mild curiosity/investment in is Qimir.
we really dont know much about this master though. like he could be thousands of years old or a just a lost jedi like he implies. He made it really weird when he said a long time ago after Osha said she hadnt heard of him considerring he appears as only a few years older than her. but i do think focusing more on the bad guys is something needed in SW. Would love to see a Vader series where he is taking out remaining jedi and terrorizing the galaxy.
Except Manny is not queer, melanated, or female. I'm serious about this. Disney shouldn't cave to anti-DEI but stay the course, farming for better talent.
Disappointed Yord and Jecki were...yeeted and jacked. I wanted to see more of their development, actually. 12 1-hour episodes under the same total budget would have made a better span for storytelling...granted the storyteller actually knows how to do that. Just sayin. 🤷♂
@ColonelStan agreed. I avoid trailers these days because they give away too much, so I went in blind for the most part with only information from the synopsis and things said by channels like this leading up to it. I was expecting the same, a show about the sith from their point of view. Not 1/4 of the show about that. Kinda disappointed, was hoping for exactly what you said.
@@conscientiousobjector5988 errr but he is "melanated", a lot more so than pedro pascal, and Dieago luna, you know the other male star wars leads. So dry your eyes and just enjoy the rest of the show
"This incredibly good looking man" Even Ryan falling for Qimir Force rizz
I've said this before, and I'll say it again for those in the back covering their ears yelling "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!!!!"
This entire story ties in with something Obi-Wan told Luke in Return of the Jedi: "You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on *our own point of view.*" There's something else, though.... Qimir may be attempting to manipulate Osha, but he isn't actually lying to her. In the Prequel Trilogy, the only lie Palpatine ever told Anakin was "in your anger, YOU killed her." Everything else he said to Anakin was the truth. Even Yoda was blinded to this fact when Dooku revealed Darth Sidious to Obi-Wan, and Yoda dismissed it as a lie. The Jedi, believing their shit didn't stink, brought forth their own downfall by refusing to see all of the threats emerge one after the other.
Qimir didn't lie to Osha, but how many lies did Sol tell her? What REALLY is the reason she left the Jedi Order? Vernestra wanted her training nixed, and she likely wasn't alone. Osha may have left on her own, but did she really have a choice, or was it "if you don't resign, you're fired" kind of a thing? Also, why do I get the feeling that Qimir is a lot older than he currently appears? Anyone think he might go through a Palpatine/Darth Sidious" transition at some point?
I expect that next week, we're going to find out what happened 16 years ago, and it's going to really put the Jedi in a bad light. "All who gain power fear to lose it, even the Jedi." And with the Jedi, they are literally the "state sanctioned guardians/enforcers of who can and can't use The Force." Remember something else Anakin said, "From MY point of view the Jedi are evil!"
No villain ever truly sees themselves as a villain. If the Jedi weren't such "gate keepers" where who can use The Force is, Qimir might not have felt threatened and (in his eyes) defend himself so vigorously. As the one Mother said early on, "This is about power, and who is allowed to use it". That is an absolute fact. But now, Mae and Osha have switched places, and are going to learn each other's side of things. I also wonder if there's some "presence" in that helmet of Qimirs... or if he will fashion some gear for her out of cortosis. That would accomplish two things: Allow her to defend herself against the Jedi (who are going to lose their shit when they find out he's been influencing her), and to sow a measure of trust between them. Granted, he pretty much offered her a measure of trust when he knew she had followed him to the watering hole, got himself nekkid, went for a swim, let her disarm him by taking his lightsaber (which, leaving with his clothes was intentional), and even offered to let her kill him. Though I don't doubt that if he truly felt threatened, he could have defended himself without the lightsaber.
Yes, I see people throwing a fit, about how "boring" this episode was, and how "shit" the series is..... but I completely disagree. We learned a good bit this episode, but some people were just too busy looking for something to bitch about, all of that was lost on them. Sucks to be THAT filled with hatred for something, that you watch it specifically to shit on it. Don't you have something better to do?
My favorite Star Wars Easter Egg is when Darth Vader's mask is being lowered, the bit of metal on the forehead and between the eyes is a hard drive seek arm from old platter hard drives.
I honestly think next week's episode is going to open with Sol telling Mae everything that happened 16 years ago, but with Osha wearing the helmet, she'll be connected to Mae at the same time and she'll hear everything Sol is telling her. Which is what will push both sisters in the opposite direction of where they started from.
Next week is the second flashback episode
That would be a pretty interesting direction to go.
THAT would be very interesting and a well written plot device.... and that's why it probably won't happen... it would require good writing and we haven't seen that yet.
If that’s the case then the whole trying to play into the Jedi being in the wrong was stupid. It’s either the Jedi did something horrible and Mae will be even more bloodthirsty or the Jedi actually did nothing but defend themselves. Which would mean both Osha and Mae should side with the Jedi. It can’t be both ways. It would make no sense.
@@JBurnz001it's not the crime, it's the coverup
Really liked the episode: Master Sol appeared like a Serialkiller at the end, the work with the light and shadow onboard the Jedi ship created such a tense atmosphere.
Thanks for the super fast easter egg video!
Yes he did! I thought about the movie Saw.
Seems like someone who screwed up once and then kept killing to fix or hide
his screwups.
@@jenniferwilson2217Yes! So cool. Such a great job by Lee Jung-jae.
@@liferealgoodAnd felt really bad about it the same time - I don‘t know if I should dislike Sol or just have pity with him. He seemed so troubled right from the moment he met Osha again - and now he completely lost it 😢
What did you take before watching it to get that effect? Maybe I should try it and enjoy this shitshow more...
Osha following a man who just mercilessly massacre her friends and a bunch of innocent Jedi right in front of her is wildddd
Yep 😒
It's actually the first instance of awful writing that I've seen in this series (despite all the whining from the clown gallery). Unless there's a flashback in a later episode that tells us Osha is that damaged. And she's pretty damaged now, but not that damaged.
So what you're saying is the dark side of the force is very powerful and seductive.
Have you seen that man? 🥵😂
I liked the episode, I do feel like they’re dragging on this secret that sol’s been carrying and it needs to be a MASSIVE twist to live up to the hype that the show itself has created. I’m enjoying the show and breakdowns.
My wife and I request more Doug! We love you Ryan but your pup helped us with our loss. Our pup used to bark and wag his butt every time he saw Doug. Now we talk about our pup’s reactions to him. Every time we see your videos, I get a moment of my old life back. Thanks, man.
I sat through the entire Badlands Ranch commercial because your banter with Doug is so on point.
This show is under appreciated by the people. So stupid those idiots reviewbombed it
Because its not good and the characters motivations make no sense.
Star Wars fans have always been kind of trash. They trashed the prequels and the prequal actors the same way. The exact same way. The fans are the reason Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney.
@@jasonmoore7223 do you even watch the show?
@@larynOneka8080 He sold it because he knew he was not doing it justice since like 1984 and they offered him 4,000,000,000.00 dollars for it.
Don't try to excuse the bigots abusing this show by comparing them to the critics calling Lucas out for mangling the prequels. That's a totally false equivalence.
5:20, Leslye Headland confirmed in an interview with Collider that it was a new planet, filmed on the Portuguese island of Madeira, and was meant to resemble Ahch-To.
I think it is quite poetic that Qimir offered his lightsaber to Osha just like Sol did.
Right? At least he didn’t use the cheesy line about her looking good as a Jedi.
@@persephone342 yup
He didn't offer it to Osha, she picked it up while we was bathing.
@zerolegacy7821 if I left cake on the table, knowing you would come eat it, and you come eat it, I'm pretty much offering you cake
Good catch!
Seeing a live action selkath for three seconds as a background character has made my days.
I'm sure it did
So that made something light up in my head.
If they put out these episodes like 10 minutes after the show premieres, how do they include thanks to random people from social media who point out Easter eggs in it?
Is there a secret society of fans who get to watch these things in pre-drop screeners?
Doug is one of the best parts of every single one of these videos, and the way you incorporate him into your videos while making hilarious skits is awesome. Keep it up!❤
I’ve heard others say that Qimir’s scar looked like it was from Venestra’s whip, though to me it looks like a scar from lightning, sith force lighting.
Came to say the same, i don't see a split or cat of nine tails end on that whip saber.
His scar is shaped like a y, which is very possible if you imagine the loop of a wip being semi blocked by a blade. The arc of the wip might look like ➰, so if thr bottom of that loop doesn’t make contact or is blocked it would leave a ‘y’ shaped impression.
If it was lightning it would probably be even more fractal like.
Also consider the fact that Qimir is trying to build gear that interferes with saber equipment as a means of deterrence.
That’s a great point! Man I can’t wait to find out which!
@@EccleezyAvicii Thank goodness for loop emojis, made it a lot clearer.
It would also be multiple overlapping lashes. I can be 100% sure but it definitely looked like Qimir had multiple scars at some points.
I personally believe Qimir is the "Acolyte" who was cast off by Tenebrous and Plagueis, and he wants to start his own branch of the Rule of Two.
This episode was actually more interesting, glad to see it's evolving into something better executed because the concept is great, just gotta smooth out the execution 😌
Plus all of the conflict and things being said from both people related to the show itself and haters is being disgusting, both parts should be ashamed.
It really wasn't. The only interesting part was the "tempting" of Osha, but it was constantly interrupted with the meandering and stupid subplots that are just filler.
@@Peterski I still think the concept is great, execution is ass like 90%, that´s my opinion and you don´t have to share it, so basically I agree with your point yet I did find it more story driven rather than ¨loading screen¨ driven
You have to wait almost all the way through the end credits, but then there’s a very clear articulation of Kylo Ren’s theme, maybe the clearest yet. I was surprised I had to wait so long to hear it, but it was worth it!
A couple of elements stood out as interesting, somewhat similar between characters shown. First, in Qimir's conversations with Osha, he would address her questions often with asking her a question in return, to see how she would respond. Vernestra used this exact technique also while exploring Khofar with her male jedi team member, answering the questions he asked her by asking him a question in return. This element further made me feel there will definitely be a connection in the past with Qimir and Vernestra, probably at one time she was his jedi master.
Also, in this episode when Sol telling Mae (posing as Osha) that he's resolved to go to the Jedi high council and tell them everything (not just what happened on the mission to Khofar, but also come clean with what actually happened on Brendock). I thought this was somewhat similar to when Mae shown in episode 4 proclaimed to Qimir (before she found out he was the "master") her new resolve to turn herself into the Jedi, etc. And now both find themselves alone together in this situation on his ship.
While Mae never did follow through with her proclaimed intention, I don't think Sol is going to make it back to complete his intention either to come clean with the Jedi high council . I predict Osha will kill Sol in the last episode, completing her turn to the dark side. Qimir seems to know what really happened on Brendock. Perhaps Qimir's next step will be to take Osha back with him to Brendock, but I think both sisters will find out the truth in the next episode somehow. Given the emphasis on Osha's strong attachment to Sol in this episode, when Osha finds out about whatever Sol's true involvement was, her feelings toward Sol will turn hateful with betrayal, and I think this will set up the events of final episode. I'm also curious to see if Qimir may have a confrontation with Vernestra in the end episode, and if he ends up taking her out as well.
A 3-Hole Punch on a shirt with jecki's horns would be a great shirt
Ah yes! Trauma!
With an Office theme. Like three hole punch Jim 😂
Dark, but great idea
😭😭
Need this asap missed opportunity
The cuts back n forth from Last Jedi doesn't do Acolyte any favors lol. That movie is stunning.
The line "it's only after you've lost everything that you're free" is verbatim (slightly abbreviated) from Fight Club "it's only after you've lost everything that you're free to do anything"
I said it with him lol mu son asked how I knew lol 😂 I told him they just did Fight Club hahahaha
It’s in so much shit. Books etc.
Yes, it’s a common phrase, one that Fight Club was making fun of (the entire book is making fun of that silly mindset).
@@TravelsTTG Yes, the book that it's in is called Fight Club.
@@EvanAdnams The sentiment behind the quote is as old as Plato, but the word for word quote is from Fight Club. I'm very happy to be proved wrong if you can show me an earlier instance. SC has mentioned in previous videos that Headland reportedly made the cast and crew watch Fight Club prior to filming. I'm totally with you that FC was ridiculing the very people who ended up worshipping it.
Ahsoka was also able to use the force echo technique, she used it to find out what happened to sabine before they jumped to peridea
Another solid episode of the Acolyte, I look forward to watching Episode 7 next week.
So sorry to hear about your lobotomy.
Looking forward for it to end and be a 1 season show
According to New Rockstars, the audio description of the Osha/Qimir scenes is very Fifty Shades.
I think it was funny when that droid did the "hawk tuah" to mae's face. 😂
That was hot
I really hope that isn't the only time we get to see that light whip 😢
I loved the last two episodes, I feel like the show runner is being brave with the portrayal of light and dark. Reminds me of the last Jedi in some ways.
Totally!
Could you please explain what you mean by being brave with the portrayal of light and dark cause all I'm seeing is shades of grey and no light or dark... and there IS pure light and pure dark in the Star Wars universe. What I see is that the showrunner is showing they grey side of the force and not really touching on light or dark.
We’ve seen this story to many times already. We seen it in the prequels, the sequels and now shows. It’s like ok we get it, there are some Jedi who are terrible. Time to move on and show that most of the Jedi are still the heroes trying their best to keep the universe in order. My problem with modern Hollywood is they want to do away with good bs evil and instead make it about perspectives. That can work but it doesn’t need to be done in every single entertainment property. Star Wars will always be its best when it’s good vs evil, light vs dark, the Jedi vs the Sith.
I absolutely love this show and your breakdowns!
I'm starting to think that whilst Qimir is A Sith..he is not part of THE Sith. Perhaps he's like Exar Kun, learning of the Sith and 'reviving' them in his own image...unaware that they are not actually gone.
I had the same thought, perhaps the real Sith are just watching it all play out and will intervene if Qimir becomes a threat to their plans.
Qimir only referred to himself as a Sith because that is what some Jedi would label him as such. Doesn't mean he isn't one though. The rule of two forbids multiple Sith so we may get a resolution to that by the end.
"Sith-Adjacent"
@@MADC1973At this point he's the only hint of a sith. We need more data.
Okay, but I seriously need a "Doug Approved" sticker, pls and thank you.
(I did check the merch store and didn't see one, but I could've missed it)
“Three Hole Punch” not sure if younger people even saw or know such a device 😂😂😂😂😂
"He touched her softly...", yeah, because there was a lightsaber at his neck, lol. Excellent breakdown!
I think the "a long time ago" comment implied essence transfer but I could be wrong
Interesting that Qimir starts by giving her the light saber, when is the exact same thing with his saber, except she was a small child.
I think it shows how easily Osha can be swayed and that Sol has some darkness going on
In all the time the ScreenCrush channel has been running, no one has ever come in and rented a video...
Except that guy in the sock mask with all the personal issues. He's there all the time.
YES! Thank you for calling out the Selkath! By far my favorite species in all of Star Wars.
I compared the shot of the island zooming out during before the opening crawl, compared to the scenes where Osha met Qimir during the ending of Episode 1. They met right outside where Qimie's cave is. And it is the Same planet and place
When Qimir walks out the water butt ass naked.....osha's face would indicate his power is his weapon😂😂
"Would you like to hold my other light saber?"
I gotta say I really enjoyed this episode. It handled some topics I did not expect a disney era star wars show to tackle and it did it well. Now if only they had Rey switch sides as well...
This show has been really well written. I just hope the ending lives up to it. I’m hoping they directly tie it into the prequels and possibly indirectly into how “Palpatine returned”
you can’t be serious
@@bleyd__ It's better written and executed than Secret Invasion was. It has a few clanks here and there. But it's fine for off-brand Star Wars.
@@bleyd__ I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley
@@michaelkristoff3496 Shirley?
@@bleyd__it’s a quote from the movie “Airplane”
My wife noticed Sol's Black gloves when he leans over the restrained Mae and got all weird about to make her listen to whatever he has been trippin' on for 16 years. I went back and found that he and other characters wore the same black gloves in a nuimber of scenes going back to the memory events on Brendok. It is interesting which scenes he does have them on or off though. The black gloves is almost as big a tell in star wars as the color of a light saber.
"3 hole punched like Jecki"😢 you outdid yourself with that one
Too soon, man. Too soon.
You're okay Ryan, but that Doug is really going places. What a STAR. We'll be watching his career with great interest. 😉
The soup Qimir is cooking is called Sinigang
26:20 - I know this line is older - I saw it uttered myself in the theatres back in1983 - but when I heard it here it reminded me of ERB
Actually liked this episode
You and 14 other % apparently
My main issue is that they kept teasing the backstory. At this point it better be worth the wait
@@JD-xd4syDon't you have train conductors to harass?
@@blairhoughton7918 Point taken
Hot take. Star Wars tv series: Andor>the acolyte>the mandalorian.
(Obi wan>asohka>boba fet)