Haha, anyone who watches this entire video and fully appreciates the important information therein deserves a beer! Making looooooooooooooong form content like this hurts my stats as a TH-camr because most people won't watch the full video. But I feel it's important to make videos like these for anyone who is truly passionate enough, and willing enough, to learn from my experience as a tree climber. Thanks for your comment! Much love your way, brother!
@@Knot-orious The Edelrid carabiners are also very nice. For example, I like to use the Kiwi Slider as a carabiner that holds my accessories to the climbing harness loop. It is oval and only a little bit bigger than the PerfectO from DMM. Usually they don't have to be PSE certified carabiners because they are not used in the safety chain. The advantage is that they are lighter and are dual action. This means that a branch cannot simply get caught in them. For example, I use them to hang my ring, slings, pulleys, CT Cric and other such things. I can understand your preference for the DMM XSRE. I am also eagerly waiting for the XSRE Locksafe to be available here in Germany.
@@TredasTaurin I'm ALL ABOUT the DMM hardware. I can't honestly recommend anything better than the products from DMM. Nothing compares. They aren't even the Cadillac of carabiners, they are the Bentley of carabiners. If you want the best carabiners on the market, then go with DMM.
I agree. Once you've reached triple action, you've pretty much reached as safe as you'll ever realistically need to be. The bulky gate on the quadruples annoy me.
I just want to make clear that the first wire gate carabiner shown is 12kn strong do not use it for rock climbing or any type of climbing to secure you to an object or anchor a carabiner from a reputable brand wire gate, solid gate or screw gate would be rated 20kn or more for climbing purposes.
I do believe I made it pretty clear that it was to be used for accessory purposes/non life support applications. But thanks for stressing that important information. When I said it is use by rock climbers an alpinists, I didn't mean that it should be used for anything but those aforementioned applications. I may not have been very clear in that regard. Thanks for commenting.
I also told everyone in the video that I only would climb on something rated for 23kN or more. But 20kN is a pretty safe number as well for those types of carabiners.
I noticed Petzl has a button pushing carabiner that does not completely cover the tip of the carabiner and you can see it when it’s in the locking position , I’m wondering if that’s a defective piece or it’s designed that way.
I'm not entirely sure. I've never owned any of the ball lock carabiners. I would consult your user manual or take pictures and reach out to petzl directly. I don't want to speculate on a life and death matter like this. Sorry I can't be of more assistance.
I'm not a huge fan of them just based off watching videos of how they operate. I much prefer normal triple action gates. But if they interest you, definitely raise your concern about the gates at the store!
Hey i just saw your video from a couple of weeks ago and you just got a new sub im trying to tech myself how to do some tree work up in the air besides just cutting it straight down do you have any tips?
The first step you need to take is learning how to climb with a rope. You can do this one of two major ways, with either SRS/SRT or using MRS/DRT. I mostly climb SRS/SRT because it's faster and more efficient. If you want to consult with me privately in greater depth, feel free to reach out to me at knotorious.info@gmail.com You'll also need to learn how to set a line in a tree using a throw weight and throw line so that you can install your rope/friction saver (MRS/DRT) or a canopy anchor or basal anchor (SRS/SRT). There's a lot to learn. Hard to really go over it all in the comments section. So feel free to email me. I'm always happy to help.
No one has done a video of that carobiner with the hook and spring fate on the top row far right..I've heard of guys useing it to put a wrap on it to add friction for srs with unicender..I'm thinking of trying that thing.
I use it with Rig - adds friction on descend (not much), but mainly allows to position the rope on the device straight down so it will not lock or touch anchored part of the rope - makes descend smoother. So it is good for I'D, Rig or Grigri.
Petzl calls the portion attached to it a "burr." I can definitely see how it would be very useful for SRS/SRT; espeically with a Unicender! It's called the Freino Z by Petzl. I use it with my GriGri when I climb with a RADS.
At least I definitely wasn't straying anyone wrong by saying the XSRE carabiners can hold at least 4 average sized people. Thanks for the actual stats. I was having a mental blank during that portion of the episode.
Always order from arborist stores...bartlett arbsession, gap,,wesspur are the best over the rest. Uncle sherill cant stand theyll send 1 order in 4 peices..we call them that for a reason
Kaveman, I love you dearly, but your comments are always so...generic, outlandish and unique? But you're not wrong lol A good carabiner must certainly be able to "clip." Your wisdom is second to none lol
by the way...I LOVE CARABINERS - never could be boring
I'm glad you feel that way! Glad you enjoyed my video! Thanks for commenting! I appreciate it!
After 46 minutes full of important information, I've earned myself an after-work beer. Thanks a lot 👍
Haha, anyone who watches this entire video and fully appreciates the important information therein deserves a beer! Making looooooooooooooong form content like this hurts my stats as a TH-camr because most people won't watch the full video. But I feel it's important to make videos like these for anyone who is truly passionate enough, and willing enough, to learn from my experience as a tree climber. Thanks for your comment! Much love your way, brother!
@@Knot-orious The Edelrid carabiners are also very nice. For example, I like to use the Kiwi Slider as a carabiner that holds my accessories to the climbing harness loop. It is oval and only a little bit bigger than the PerfectO from DMM. Usually they don't have to be PSE certified carabiners because they are not used in the safety chain. The advantage is that they are lighter and are dual action. This means that a branch cannot simply get caught in them. For example, I use them to hang my ring, slings, pulleys, CT Cric and other such things. I can understand your preference for the DMM XSRE. I am also eagerly waiting for the XSRE Locksafe to be available here in Germany.
I've heard guys useinh that petzl carobiner for adding friction under devices like unicender above it..
@@TredasTaurin I'm ALL ABOUT the DMM hardware. I can't honestly recommend anything better than the products from DMM. Nothing compares. They aren't even the Cadillac of carabiners, they are the Bentley of carabiners. If you want the best carabiners on the market, then go with DMM.
Edelrid make very nice carabiners too!
I've never bought a carabiner from Edelrid. Many of their products do look nice, however, I'm in love with DMM.
The quadruple gates have few purposes Taylor Hamel does video on them.. 1 rescue 2 spar tie off.i have the ansi dmm ...
I agree. Once you've reached triple action, you've pretty much reached as safe as you'll ever realistically need to be. The bulky gate on the quadruples annoy me.
I just want to make clear that the first wire gate carabiner shown is 12kn strong do not use it for rock climbing or any type of climbing to secure you to an object or anchor a carabiner from a reputable brand wire gate, solid gate or screw gate would be rated 20kn or more for climbing purposes.
I do believe I made it pretty clear that it was to be used for accessory purposes/non life support applications. But thanks for stressing that important information. When I said it is use by rock climbers an alpinists, I didn't mean that it should be used for anything but those aforementioned applications. I may not have been very clear in that regard. Thanks for commenting.
I also told everyone in the video that I only would climb on something rated for 23kN or more. But 20kN is a pretty safe number as well for those types of carabiners.
I noticed Petzl has a button pushing carabiner that does not completely cover the tip of the carabiner and you can see it when it’s in the locking position , I’m wondering if that’s a defective piece or it’s designed that way.
I'm not entirely sure. I've never owned any of the ball lock carabiners. I would consult your user manual or take pictures and reach out to petzl directly. I don't want to speculate on a life and death matter like this. Sorry I can't be of more assistance.
@@Knot-orious I actually didn’t purchase them, but next time I’m in the store maybe I can speak with someone
I'm not a huge fan of them just based off watching videos of how they operate. I much prefer normal triple action gates. But if they interest you, definitely raise your concern about the gates at the store!
@@Knot-orious that was the first time I had seen these but I think I’d prefer the triact lock better.
Hey i just saw your video from a couple of weeks ago and you just got a new sub im trying to tech myself how to do some tree work up in the air besides just cutting it straight down do you have any tips?
The first step you need to take is learning how to climb with a rope. You can do this one of two major ways, with either SRS/SRT or using MRS/DRT. I mostly climb SRS/SRT because it's faster and more efficient. If you want to consult with me privately in greater depth, feel free to reach out to me at knotorious.info@gmail.com You'll also need to learn how to set a line in a tree using a throw weight and throw line so that you can install your rope/friction saver (MRS/DRT) or a canopy anchor or basal anchor (SRS/SRT). There's a lot to learn. Hard to really go over it all in the comments section. So feel free to email me. I'm always happy to help.
No one has done a video of that carobiner with the hook and spring fate on the top row far right..I've heard of guys useing it to put a wrap on it to add friction for srs with unicender..I'm thinking of trying that thing.
I use it with Rig - adds friction on descend (not much), but mainly allows to position the rope on the device straight down so it will not lock or touch anchored part of the rope - makes descend smoother. So it is good for I'D, Rig or Grigri.
Petzl calls the portion attached to it a "burr." I can definitely see how it would be very useful for SRS/SRT; espeically with a Unicender! It's called the Freino Z by Petzl. I use it with my GriGri when I climb with a RADS.
4 kn are ~ 407,88 kg oder 899,22 Pfund (lbs).
At least I definitely wasn't straying anyone wrong by saying the XSRE carabiners can hold at least 4 average sized people. Thanks for the actual stats. I was having a mental blank during that portion of the episode.
@@Knot-orious You stated it accurately in your video: 1 kN is approximately 100 kg, which is about the weight of a strong man
@@Simon-80 Thanks for the validation. I knew I was pretty close by making that comparison.
Always order from arborist stores...bartlett arbsession, gap,,wesspur are the best over the rest. Uncle sherill cant stand theyll send 1 order in 4 peices..we call them that for a reason
Definitely best to always order from arborist supply stores. Especially ropes and hitch cords.
Sherril Tree sucks. I never buy anything from them.
The important thing is that they clip.
Kaveman, I love you dearly, but your comments are always so...generic, outlandish and unique? But you're not wrong lol A good carabiner must certainly be able to "clip." Your wisdom is second to none lol