Great job with the information on using the Quiet Eye! BTM has some additional reading: July 2010 Using the Quiet Eye to avoid choking by Joe Slowinski (Slowinski At-Large) March 2008 Using a “quiet eye” is the key to improving target accuracy by Joe Slowinski (Slowinski At-Large)
What if I use the dots to aim I stead of the arrows. Then a 2 and 1 shift would be a lot more able then if I was looking at the arrows, because the ball is hitting the board only 8ft down the lane I stead of 15ft at the arrows
Thank you for this video. Read about this targeting technique awhile ago. Your video helped me completely understand the system. Its easy to use and it keeps you locked into the pocket much longer. Less thinking, more striking....Thanks. Keep up the great work.
Wow, I would need to sit down with some people with this cause there are a couple things I still have questions about but what I learned so far has opened my eyes a bit on how I determine where to look and play the lane.
What does that mean how many boards you drift to get to 17 on your sliding foot ? Are we talking about the ball drifting and not hitting the pocket, or are we talking about our feet not getting to 17 at the end of our slide, and that is considered the drift ?
This video is very informative and further breaks down and validates a targeting system that I began to look into for a couple of years now. I'm a skillfull senior with athletic game. Thanks to Kegel Bowling and Training for this video. I will use it to boost and lift my changing game.
What if you walk into a bowling center and you dont kno the length of the pattern and no lane mechanic or worker is able to tell you. what do you do to figure out the pattern length ?
what is a pin focal point when you are throwing a hook? how do you know what the straight line is if you are say...laying down at 20 going over 12 at the arrows and a breakpoint of 8...
But if i recall the definition of "breakpoint", it is the farthest from the pocket the ball reaches before it starts to move towards the pocket. So in this video even though Tommy Jones' ball starts to move later, it did not move any further outside of Barnes' ball, so it looks like exit point and breakpoint are overlaping in a lot of occasions , right?
Watch your ball roll from beginning to end. Look at where the roll speeds up or changes direction. Read about the coefficient of friction. Through that you can get an idea of the length oil on the pattern. Most house shots will have a crown.
Good information can't wait to try. But how easy is it to tell how long a pattern really is? Most houses only have arrows as the last markers, then it becomes a depth perception issue? It would be real easy to be off + or- five feet. The ball doesn't break at the exit point so what method is used to find the exit point? Centers during tournaments aren't going to tell you.
Can somebody explain to me the relationship of those numbers under column pattern length, 6 degrees, 5 degrees, and 4 degrees. What does degree mean? I thought we are talking number of boards and arrows like 5, 10,15,20,25. Where is the quiet eye looking at?
Degrees refers to the angle your ball enters the pocket. The quiet eye is a sighting system that extends the length of your target focus. Similar to sighting thru a 2 part rifle scope. For example if I want my ball at the 5 board at 40 feet, I must determine what path I want my ball to take in order to achieve the most beneficial angle to strike. The Quiet Eye system takes this even further by extending the target zone from the pins (each one with 5 zones)...When you watch the video keep in mind that this is a seminar being presented to a live audience. That makes a big difference in the presentation...
I have my right leg 3.4 sorter then my left leg what ball do get so I can do better tell me how I can do better for my league for summer league please let me know Jamie sferruzzo
Seems that there needs to be more info on how to calculate the focal point. Unless you're playing straight up the boards, the visual target, exit point, and focal point are all going to be different. Since the visual target is ~15 ft, and the exit point is typically anywhere from 35-45 ft, a change of 1 board in the visual target (with the exit point constant) would result in anywhere from 1 1/4 to 2 boards change in the focal point in the opposite direction (if my calculations are correct).
I don't understand where you would stand or aim at with this equation. Example, my oil pattern length at my bowling alley is 43.5 , so if i did the math, 43.5 - 31 = 12.5 board. I get that part but where do i stand and aim at ?
Amil Jacobs you aim at that break point which is the 12.5 board I believe. I believe your standing point depends on how much hook you have on the lane. So, if you throw a big hook you would stand further over then a stroker, but you guys would still hit the same break point, in your case would be the 12.5 board.
Amil Jacobs Also, adding to my other comment. You have to trace a line back from the break point to your lay down to get the path you want it to role. It is sort of easy to explain but actually hard to do lol.
Depending on the length of a pattern (ex: 42 ft pattern) you would take 42 subtract 31 which is 11. So for that pattern you'd want your ball to leave the oil at board 11 (or where you'll will hook at that area. Take whatever the length of a pattern is and subtract it by 31 to find out where you need to play. Hope it helped!
Very hard to follow what the exit point implies. I've heard of the highpoint, and how playing towards that point on the pattern creates margin for error. Then again, I EXITED bowling before the patterns were known in advance, so you just had throw the ball and interpret what was out there.
5.14- down lane markers are 41 to 44 ft and 33 to 36 ft! actually they are 40 to 43 and 34 to 37 ft. the exit point is thus marked 1 ft further away to prove that theory, which is actually nonsense. on 50 ft oil pattern, the exit point should be 19, left of the pocket, and on 30 ft should be -1, in the gutter. on medium and long patterns, at any competition, the exit points and the breaks point are totally diverse, based on each bowler ball reaction. let away competitions where you don't know on what pattern are you bowling, like Junior Gold
Great job with the information on using the Quiet Eye! BTM has some additional reading:
July 2010 Using the Quiet Eye to avoid choking
by Joe Slowinski (Slowinski At-Large)
March 2008 Using a “quiet eye” is the key to improving target accuracy
by Joe Slowinski (Slowinski At-Large)
I tried this out yesterday and saw an immediate improvement. This method works!
What if I use the dots to aim I stead of the arrows. Then a 2 and 1 shift would be a lot more able then if I was looking at the arrows, because the ball is hitting the board only 8ft down the lane I stead of 15ft at the arrows
Thank you for this video. Read about this targeting technique awhile ago. Your video helped me completely understand the system. Its easy to use and it keeps you locked into the pocket much longer. Less thinking, more striking....Thanks. Keep up the great work.
Wow, I would need to sit down with some people with this cause there are a couple things I still have questions about but what I learned so far has opened my eyes a bit on how I determine where to look and play the lane.
What does that mean how many boards you drift to get to 17 on your sliding foot ? Are we talking about the ball drifting and not hitting the pocket, or are we talking about our feet not getting to 17 at the end of our slide, and that is considered the drift ?
glad i found this video. gives me something to try out to see if i can improve my targeting and consistency
Did it work for you? Going to try this tomorrow.
This video is very informative and further breaks down and validates a targeting system that I began to look into for a couple of years now. I'm a skillfull senior with athletic game. Thanks to Kegel Bowling and Training for this video. I will use it to boost and lift my changing game.
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What if you walk into a bowling center and you dont kno the length of the pattern and no lane mechanic or worker is able to tell you. what do you do to figure out the pattern length ?
what is a pin focal point when you are throwing a hook? how do you know what the straight line is if you are say...laying down at 20 going over 12 at the arrows and a breakpoint of 8...
A very good and graphic explanation. Thank you!
But if i recall the definition of "breakpoint", it is the farthest from the pocket the ball reaches before it starts to move towards the pocket. So in this video even though Tommy Jones' ball starts to move later, it did not move any further outside of Barnes' ball, so it looks like exit point and breakpoint are overlaping in a lot of occasions , right?
Watch your ball roll from beginning to end. Look at where the roll speeds up or changes direction. Read about the coefficient of friction. Through that you can get an idea of the length oil on the pattern. Most house shots will have a crown.
Good information can't wait to try.
But how easy is it to tell how long a pattern really is? Most houses only have arrows as the last markers, then it becomes a depth perception issue? It would be real easy to be off + or- five feet. The ball doesn't break at the exit point so what method is used to find the exit point? Centers during tournaments aren't going to tell you.
What was the match name when chris and tommy was in?
I would take practice shots and try to determine where the ball is exiting the pattern based off how it reacts.
Can somebody explain to me the relationship of those numbers under column pattern length, 6 degrees, 5 degrees, and 4 degrees. What does degree mean? I thought we are talking number of boards and arrows like 5, 10,15,20,25. Where is the quiet eye looking at?
Degrees refers to the angle your ball enters the pocket. The quiet eye is a sighting system that extends the length of your target focus. Similar to sighting thru a 2 part rifle scope. For example if I want my ball at the 5 board at 40 feet, I must determine what path I want my ball to take in order to achieve the most beneficial angle to strike. The Quiet Eye system takes this even further by extending the target zone from the pins (each one with 5 zones)...When you watch the video keep in mind that this is a seminar being presented to a live audience. That makes a big difference in the presentation...
I have my right leg 3.4 sorter then my left leg what ball do get so I can do better tell me how I can do better for my league for summer league please let me know Jamie sferruzzo
How do I know what focal point I should be looking at?
I am following everything in your video EXCEPT the 31 ft. Where does that part of the formula come from.?
Seems that there needs to be more info on how to calculate the focal point. Unless you're playing straight up the boards, the visual target, exit point, and focal point are all going to be different. Since the visual target is ~15 ft, and the exit point is typically anywhere from 35-45 ft, a change of 1 board in the visual target (with the exit point constant) would result in anywhere from 1 1/4 to 2 boards change in the focal point in the opposite direction (if my calculations are correct).
Can someone explain to me what he means by shift?
I don't understand where you would stand or aim at with this equation. Example, my oil pattern length at my bowling alley is 43.5 , so if i did the math, 43.5 - 31 = 12.5 board. I get that part but where do i stand and aim at ?
Amil Jacobs you aim at that break point which is the 12.5 board I believe. I believe your standing point depends on how much hook you have on the lane. So, if you throw a big hook you would stand further over then a stroker, but you guys would still hit the same break point, in your case would be the 12.5 board.
Amil Jacobs Also, adding to my other comment. You have to trace a line back from the break point to your lay down to get the path you want it to role. It is sort of easy to explain but actually hard to do lol.
Ana Walton *roll
Can't get the sound to work. is that an Adobe setting or something else?
Depending on the length of a pattern (ex: 42 ft pattern) you would take 42 subtract 31 which is 11. So for that pattern you'd want your ball to leave the oil at board 11 (or where you'll will hook at that area. Take whatever the length of a pattern is and subtract it by 31 to find out where you need to play. Hope it helped!
this is more complicated than playing bridge!
the exit point refers to the point you need the ball to be at the exit of the oil pattern for the most margin of error
how do i get my axis rotation
Very hard to follow what the exit point implies. I've heard of the highpoint, and how playing towards that point on the pattern creates margin for error. Then again, I EXITED bowling before the patterns were known in advance, so you just had throw the ball and interpret what was out there.
Not sure what is happening, but the audio on this is all garbled. I had watched it before, but not all I hear are faint squeaks.
It's determined by the way you release the ball.
forward it to 00:43. slides change.
Whats the farting noise every so often
lol... saw Kegel and thought of something else
5.14- down lane markers are 41 to 44 ft and 33 to 36 ft! actually they are 40 to 43 and 34 to 37 ft. the exit point is thus marked 1 ft further away to prove that theory, which is actually nonsense. on 50 ft oil pattern, the exit point should be 19, left of the pocket, and on 30 ft should be -1, in the gutter. on medium and long patterns, at any competition, the exit points and the breaks point are totally diverse, based on each bowler ball reaction. let away competitions where you don't know on what pattern are you bowling, like Junior Gold
I prefer the whispering eye
muy bueno
Id rather miss than watch the rest of this thing.
Not for everyone to understand easily!
haha, he said kegel.
this guy is talking non sense
lol kegel training...