Once again you and Ben have come through to help me. I have been trying and trying to have a successful auto mission takeoff for my wing with zero luck. I read and re-read the instructions on Ardupilot but the delay was too long and the wind ended up powering right into the ground. I had googled the issue before. But, today is the first time your video came up. I bought a lotto ticket tonight and if I win, I'm going to remember you and Ben.
I'm incredibly intrigued by the idea of "flying" the thing via computer. Hand launch then set waypoints on a map, select a mission, etc while being able to see location, telemetry, etc. I was in UAV squadrons in the Marine Corps and this is basically how they're flown...more "told where to go" than actually flown. I think it'd be really cool to be able to do that with my own little bird. We used crazy tracking dish antennas to communicate with ours...are there radios that you can mount on these that can communicate with a computer and Flight Planner at range?
@@Painless360 Perfect. Will do. My wing JUST got here today...literally 5 minutes ago. I'm going to build it and fly it around some, do the FPV thing, might slap an FC in it soon, etc. But I'm going to get a Believer and set up all the real deal stuff in that. That's going to be my long range bird. 😁 Thanks, man.
Lee, thanks for the video. Could please describe the definition of "Takeoff waypoint" in the world of QGControl in relation to a quadcopter VS fixed wing. I am flying a fixed wing with PixhawkMini and it flies very well in stable, RTL modes, but mission mode works at sometimes and some times does not. I arm, flip auto mission switch on Tx, hand launch, motor kicks in, plane flies off perfectly, but rather than going to the waypoint #1, its start circling. I have done several auto missions on my quadcopter without any issue but fixed wing is hit and miss.
That is such a cool feature. I love Arudplane and how flexible it is. Any chance of finally getting a Herelink installed and demo'd on a fixed wing? I can't wrap my head around how to use it with a spring loaded throttle.
@@Painless360 Fingers crossed it's got HD video like the Herelink. The only other system for fixed has been the Parrot Disco, which I have, but it's not really meant for long range like the Herelink/Pix combo. Such high hopes for that system. It's gathering dust on my shelf sadly.
@@Painless360 I get it now, shake to wake - the model will slowly ramp up the motor and then u let go while inav auto launch will speed up to specific speed which is very danger while holding it. anyway thanks
I just set this up on my nano talon today. I did 20deg pitch thinking that would be more than enough. Full throttle. When I throw straight and level it dips and I had to intervene and give up elevator. Should I be chucking it more upwards to avoid the dip? I didn't want to risk stall by doing that. I have a switch on the Taranis that gives some up elevator that I have been using for manual launching and it takes off much better.
The launch in the video is 15 degrees and is good for most cases. I'd watch how I set this model up via the series in case you missed something... Happy flying!
Hi OK I'm really new to computers and INAV, I'm disabled and I can not twist to really toss it so I wanted to setup auto launch, but I'm confused about ARDUPILOT is this a program for the computer or do I replace INAV with ARDUPILOT
@@Painless360 lol That's what I'm saying, mine doesn't automatically spin , it shows in the OSD the throttle gradually increasing but nothing happens, any idea what I'm doing wrong?
I wouldn't with ArduPilot. Careful placement of the compass is essential. See my build videos. I recall something about compass ordering in the latest version so that may be worth a look!
In arduplane auto takeoff command take at ones after arming If we go to fbwa to auto and then back to fbwa again want auto mode in mid flight it don't take command again. Motor not start.
@@Painless360 can we give a auto command to arduplan in mid flight multiple time. Actually when i go from FBWA TO Auto mode and without complete mission i again switch to fbwa mode and when i again switch it back auto mode means i hit the auto mode second time throttle become zera. Thats the problem. Arduplan do not take auto mission mode second time in mid flight.
@@bearospaceinsider5250 can u try auto mode in mid-flight 1 stabilize mode 2 then auto 3 again stabilize mode And if you again go to auto my arduplane dosen't respond to auto mode on apm 2.8 fc
I have been struggeling like a lunatic to get this function to work as i have done in many other planes before...This auto-launch does not work if you have set Q_Enable ! (yes i know you dont need this auto launch feature for vtol😂) So just as a note, disable Q_enable before trying this feature.
Can u tell me how to get more throw in the mission planner with the plane on the bench is seems like I have limited throw in my orbit wing everything is at 100 percent on the taranis
The movement may depend on the mode you have it in. Use manual mode to check movement and you can increase the travel in the output tab (max/min) - see the rest of the series.. Best of luck!
This PR might be of interest if you wanted a takeoff mode more like iNav in the sense that you don't require a ground station: github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/11277
I do not understand the trend of 'shake to wake' at all! Why defeat the saftey feature of auto-launch? Why not just throw it and let the motor start when it is away from you? I've been doing this for months and it works great. A delay of 0.4 seconds gets it well away from your hands.
There are lots of things I dont understand but that's one of the great things about the hobby - were not all the same and those differences drive new products and innovation. All of the other autolaunch options are covered in the wiki and work well. This video is for those who, like me, wanted it but couldn't get it working easily. Glad you've found the way you want and like...
@@Painless360 you always do a great job of explaining all the options in all of your videos.I was driven to use the auto launch feature by all of the pictures of mangled arms and hands I saw on Facebook.
See the up to date version of this here - th-cam.com/video/KZz-Y-u-boo/w-d-xo.html (extra things added in Arduplane 4.0 and later)
Once again you and Ben have come through to help me. I have been trying and trying to have a successful auto mission takeoff for my wing with zero luck. I read and re-read the instructions on Ardupilot but the delay was too long and the wind ended up powering right into the ground. I had googled the issue before. But, today is the first time your video came up. I bought a lotto ticket tonight and if I win, I'm going to remember you and Ben.
I'm incredibly intrigued by the idea of "flying" the thing via computer. Hand launch then set waypoints on a map, select a mission, etc while being able to see location, telemetry, etc. I was in UAV squadrons in the Marine Corps and this is basically how they're flown...more "told where to go" than actually flown. I think it'd be really cool to be able to do that with my own little bird.
We used crazy tracking dish antennas to communicate with ours...are there radios that you can mount on these that can communicate with a computer and Flight Planner at range?
Yep, check out my videos on the telemetry radios and mission planner... best of luck!
@@Painless360 Perfect. Will do. My wing JUST got here today...literally 5 minutes ago. I'm going to build it and fly it around some, do the FPV thing, might slap an FC in it soon, etc.
But I'm going to get a Believer and set up all the real deal stuff in that. That's going to be my long range bird. 😁
Thanks, man.
Amazing. This is future tech for sure. Thank you for the review and tutorial.
Seems interesting.....trying to figure the bungee launch for my 5 foot wing. She is fairly heavy for a wing launch
Wow, that's really useful, Lee! Thanks a lot! 😃
Is there anything similar in iNav?
Yep, see the iNav series... :)
@@Painless360 I will! Thanks! 😊
Just what i was needing. thanks!!
Excellent thank you!
Lee, thanks for the video. Could please describe the definition of "Takeoff waypoint" in the world of QGControl in relation to a quadcopter VS fixed wing. I am flying a fixed wing with PixhawkMini and it flies very well in stable, RTL modes, but mission mode works at sometimes and some times does not. I arm, flip auto mission switch on Tx, hand launch, motor kicks in, plane flies off perfectly, but rather than going to the waypoint #1, its start circling. I have done several auto missions on my quadcopter without any issue but fixed wing is hit and miss.
I don't use Qgroundcontrol. If you find out then please let me know.. Best of luck!
That is such a cool feature. I love Arudplane and how flexible it is. Any chance of finally getting a Herelink installed and demo'd on a fixed wing? I can't wrap my head around how to use it with a spring loaded throttle.
I may have a cheaper option here for an all in one system.. Stay tuned!
@@Painless360 Fingers crossed it's got HD video like the Herelink. The only other system for fixed has been the Parrot Disco, which I have, but it's not really meant for long range like the Herelink/Pix combo. Such high hopes for that system. It's gathering dust on my shelf sadly.
Not HD...
Hello, thanks for your videos. One question, is there any way to cancel the auto take off after starting the motor with the shaking to wake?
I've never tried.. Best of luck
Yes you can by changing the mode to manual or fbwa and put throttle low
Great video, what is the difference between iNav Auto Launch and Shake to Wake?
This is ardupilot not INAV... Happy flying
@@Painless360 I get it now, shake to wake - the model will slowly ramp up the motor and then u let go while inav auto launch will speed up to specific speed which is very danger while holding it. anyway thanks
Almost. Check out my video on INAV. AUTOLAUNCH. Similar shake to wake feature may be coming to INAV... Happy flying
I just set this up on my nano talon today. I did 20deg pitch thinking that would be more than enough. Full throttle. When I throw straight and level it dips and I had to intervene and give up elevator. Should I be chucking it more upwards to avoid the dip? I didn't want to risk stall by doing that. I have a switch on the Taranis that gives some up elevator that I have been using for manual launching and it takes off much better.
The launch in the video is 15 degrees and is good for most cases. I'd watch how I set this model up via the series in case you missed something... Happy flying!
New Version take off?
Man i wish the interview with ben was in the omnibus f4 series lol would have saved me some serious time lol
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Would love an update on this flight mode as I hear you no longer need a waypoint to use launch mode
That's right. It's now a mode. All covered in the wiki.. Happy flying
takeoff mode is coming to master soon, so you no longer have to program a mission to get this functionality
I'm planning a video of it when its released. I've been waiting a long time for it... happy flying!
Hi Lee, What position do you have your throttle In before you throw the model in auto launch?
Max. See process covered in the video..
Hi OK I'm really new to computers and INAV, I'm disabled and I can not twist to really toss it so I wanted to setup auto launch, but I'm confused about ARDUPILOT is this a program for the computer or do I replace INAV with ARDUPILOT
This video preview may help - th-cam.com/video/4dmrahCJonM/w-d-xo.html. Check out the builds on the channel too... I hope that helps..
@@Painless360 Thank you
My motor doesn't automatically spin I have to manually put in throttle?
Depends on how you set it up... happy flying
@@Painless360 lol That's what I'm saying, mine doesn't automatically spin , it shows in the OSD the throttle gradually increasing but nothing happens, any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Could be a few things. What troubleshooting have you already done?
Do I need to load the flight plan before each flight? Do I need a different flight plan for different fields?
Nope, once it is on there you can reuse it every flight..
Hi do you disable compasses with F4 wing boards in arduplane like in inav?
I wouldn't with ArduPilot. Careful placement of the compass is essential. See my build videos. I recall something about compass ordering in the latest version so that may be worth a look!
Stupid question
What is the difference between arduplane and ardupilot ?
See my series on Ardupilot. Ardupilot is a family that includes Arducopter, Arduplane, Ardurover etc..
Painless360 thank uku
So if I’m getting this right, by clearing the waypoint data the GPS 3D lock then relearns the start point during the pre start startup?
Yep, exactly
In arduplane auto takeoff command take at ones after arming
If we go to fbwa to auto and then back to fbwa again want auto mode in mid flight it don't take command again. Motor not start.
Sorry, I dont understand the question...
@@Painless360 can we give a auto command to arduplan in mid flight multiple time.
Actually when i go from FBWA TO Auto mode and without complete mission i again switch to fbwa mode and when i again switch it back auto mode means i hit the auto mode second time throttle become zera. Thats the problem. Arduplan do not take auto mission mode second time in mid flight.
That's an interesting question - let me look into that..
i'm having no issues with re starting an auto mission in flight on v 4.0.
@@bearospaceinsider5250 can u try auto mode in mid-flight
1 stabilize mode
2 then auto
3 again stabilize mode
And if you again go to auto my arduplane dosen't respond to auto mode on apm 2.8 fc
Well done sir !
Can u please make a video to setup this to my quadcopter !!
Pls sir it's my Request !!!!!
While I'm happy to hand launch a fixed wing I'm not sure about trying it with a multirotor...
Ok sir
Do you need to change the autolaunch mission if you fly a different place as where you set it up? or doesn't it store the gps location in the mission?
Nope. That's reset when the GPS locks..
@@Painless360 thnx, I was afraid it would fly back to my house when I launch it at the flying field 😅
I have been struggeling like a lunatic to get this function to work as i have done in many other planes before...This auto-launch does not work if you have set Q_Enable ! (yes i know you dont need this auto launch feature for vtol😂) So just as a note, disable Q_enable before trying this feature.
Thanks for the comment. Yep, that is kinda the whole point of VTOL! :D
Can u tell me how to get more throw in the mission planner with the plane on the bench is seems like I have limited throw in my orbit wing everything is at 100 percent on the taranis
The movement may depend on the mode you have it in. Use manual mode to check movement and you can increase the travel in the output tab (max/min) - see the rest of the series.. Best of luck!
MIXING_GAIN is what you're looking for.... have a look at the wiki for what is does
@@flyingrock6381 so i increased it to .8 manual looks great but in FBWA and stabilize mode it seem pretty limited
@@Mrfunkyfpv happy to hear! don't worry about FBWA on the ground; it''ll move as needed in the air
@@flyingrock6381 flew today and EVERYTHING IS GREAT THANK YOU
will this work without gps
If you can it'll be the wiki. I always use GPS... Happy flying
This PR might be of interest if you wanted a takeoff mode more like iNav in the sense that you don't require a ground station: github.com/ArduPilot/ardupilot/pull/11277
Thanks for that, I have been aware of the update and am planning a video on it when it's finally released. Should make things easier.. hopefully!
I do not understand the trend of 'shake to wake' at all! Why defeat the saftey feature of auto-launch? Why not just throw it and let the motor start when it is away from you? I've been doing this for months and it works great. A delay of 0.4 seconds gets it well away from your hands.
There are lots of things I dont understand but that's one of the great things about the hobby - were not all the same and those differences drive new products and innovation. All of the other autolaunch options are covered in the wiki and work well. This video is for those who, like me, wanted it but couldn't get it working easily. Glad you've found the way you want and like...
@@Painless360 you always do a great job of explaining all the options in all of your videos.I was driven to use the auto launch feature by all of the pictures of mangled arms and hands I saw on Facebook.
That's why there is the warning at the start of the video,, care is needed. Happy flying!