Great video. I know it sounds crazy but my fan finally came out with just bending the plastic frame a little bit, just enough to clear the obstruction. The wide arc of the whole unit is a bit flexible and I didn't damage anything. The new fan went in the same way, just a bit of a push back toward the engine. It takes a lot of wiggle and movement, one side up, then down, etc. but it eventually goes in. No damage. Then set the electrical connection, secure it in the four brackets, gather your tools, and clean up. It's been working fine ever since. PS, my problem was the big fan would never come on. 2009 Volvo V70 3.2
Ok. This is the best explanation I’ve ever seen for a technical problem on a car. I am planning to buy a S80 T6, so I think I may need this in the future.
I really appreciate your great story telling method! Im in a time emergency so I’m at a specialized dealership that does the work much cheaper. But now I know for the future! Thanks
Thank you, and the tips from other people's replies for this! On 4 March '23, the smaller fan (AC condenser fan) wouldn't turn off on my 2015 XC60. Since it's the AC fan, and the weather hasn't warmed up yet, I just disconnected the plug for the smaller fan from the bottom of the control module. I opted for free 7-day shipping when I ordered the new fan housing unit, so after tax, it was $103 on eBay. I will take tips and tricks from your video, and also from the comments posted by people below to make this a much less painful repair.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!! You explained and thought this out so well. This video saved me about $1000 I was quoted. We found that taking out the engine air filter to reach the screw for the oil cooler made it easier to take it out and have room to install the new fan.
I have the same car and just replaced my fan in about 30 minutes. I removed the tabs that were blocked by hoses by using a reciprocating saw and it popped out easily. You def have to wiggle it and move some hoses but it's easy Installing it was not too bad. The only thing I had to move was the large radiator hose on the passenger side and the fan dropped in easily. A little bending was necessary but it was about a 3/10 on the difficulty scale. This video is appreciated but way over the top.
My 2003 Volvo has suddenly developed the same out the blue problem. I make some long trips and was glad my fan issues happened close to home. I do almost 95% of the work on my 2 Volvos and I'm glad I was not 400 miles away from my garage, that is well equipped. I have the part on order, but thanks for the installation tips. Mine might not be exactly the same, but your efforts and video maybe of help. Thanks
NESTO P: I was able to get the module released from the fan assy - NOTE: PHILLIPS SCREW HOLDS IT IN!!!! - but that was it. Because of the location of AC and other parts, I could not pull the fan assy up (which would work on some cars, I guess.), although it could come up part-way. so I went to my independent dealer (SHOUTOUT to EUROTECH - Virginia Beach). $120 later, all was well. He had to drop the skid covers, etc, and grab it/install it from below. The assy works well and fixed the problem. and yes, the old broken one did kill the battery. Good luck!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! THE BEST car-fixing video I have ever seen, honestly! I had this exact problem - but with much more drama associated with brakes, transmission, and key fob retention. (overcome) BUT... this problem - the culprit being the module, I was "unsure". You gave me another CEU in Volvo repair - thank you! I have owned 14 Volvos to date, and could/can work on all but the newest (2016 XC90 T6 AWD). My best to you!
Thanks for the video. On the lower tabs I cut approximately 1/4 inch off the tabs. This allow me to remove and when I replaced I did the same thing on the new one. When I replaced I had more than enough tab to lock back in place on the bottom. Your idea helped me thanks.
Great explanation, another method that worked for me was to unscrew the trans cooler. Its held with one screw on top, no need to disconnect the hoses and thus no loss of any coolant or oil. It'll give you the inches needed to get the fan out
This doesn't really work, literally doing this right now, and to even unbolt that trans cooler and move it, there's a short hose to the radiator that has to be disconnected, which will want to throw coolant everywhere. The other issue is, with the tab on that bottom end, it's also going to get snagged on the lower coolant return hose. You really need to drain the system and move the hoses to get this done.
I would never buy anything other than OEM for the fans and control unit. Online parts like this often come from China and won't last as long. Great Video. Glad to know something is easy to remove on the 3.2 inline six
Thank you for your awesome video! You definitely saved my Headache, I exactly having the same problem fan my fa kick on the moment I start my 07 s60 2.5 T and of Cours drains my battery . Already changed the temperature sensor and I was looking for a cooling fan really when I seen your video if my don’t have the really I’m 100% positive I will be changing the cooling fan assembly . Thank you again.
11:19. I just read in VIDA that if you push the bottom of the fan toward the rear of the car it will clear all obstructions. Never tried this but may help someone else if they need to remove the fan.
Hello Mike; excellent job describing your problem and instructions on how you replaced the fan unit. Might have to replace mine. Cooling fan came on after trying to start my volvo. Fan ran for approximately 10 minutes,then stopped. Was able to start vehicle about 10 minutes later. However, fan doesn't run while engine is running. Disconnect fuse for 10 seconds; reconnected fuse. Fan still doesn't come on. Might have to request the company's # ;where you purchased your unit if needed. Thx. Robin
AWESOME VIDEO!!! I’ll admit I only watched about half of the video before I started. I came to the same conclusion on the bottom clip being stuck on the oil cooler. Just cut it. I’m gonna try and replace it by just cutting like 1/4 of an inch off that clip.
@@mikethedesertrat 🤣. Your pre fab clip in after idea is brilliant. Worked perfect on my 13 s60 t5. A lift made putting the clip on a breeze. Thank you again for the awesome video!!!
I'm an electrical engineer and can help all understand why, probably, that first control unit failed and everything was great after you replaced the entire fan assembly (with 2 new fan motors.) Electrical motors have wound copper wires to make the magnetic fields which cause fan rotation. Those wires have coating, like insulating paint. Over the years, the heat and weather can wear down and corrode that varnish coating so some wires of the windings short together, which is bad. More amperage -- more current -- occurs but the motor still runs. Eventually the additional amperage exceeds the ability of the electronics (solid state or relay?) inside that "control module" so the module fails. In your first fix at the shop, they installed a new module but likely did not check the amperage going through your fan motors. Since the motors were bad (too much current draw) they soon destroyed your first new control module too, just like the current eventually destroyed the original. When you bought new fans (with a new control module) everything was back within specifications and design like new -- the fans pulled the appropriate amount of amperage, which the new module could handle fine. Now you know the WHYs of the failures you saw. Great video!
Thanks for this Mike. My fan doesn't turn on at all, at least since I've managed to work my way through through ignored maintenance and some wiring issues created by the previous owner. I'll be checking fuses and testing the wiring and fan control unit / module but knowing that it's this convenient to remove this part, I'll be more than willing to get into it.
Thanks Mike, I have a range rover evoque with the same problem. I naively bought the control module on ebay. Although it stopped turning on when connected, when it reaches a high temperature it does not turn on either. I have read that you have to change the whole system, not just the module.
I'll share my same scenario with my XC90. Unlike the S80, the XC90 has a temperature meter at the dash. This problem happened when my temperature sensor failed, rendering no temperature reading to the ECU. The ECU is smart to detect this failure, and to prevent overheating due to "no temperature signal", would run the fan aggressively and continue to run it for like 3-5 minutes after the engine is stopped.
Had a similar problem, Well not exactly You see my fans they were barely turning on and when they did it felt like they were running at a very low speed.. anyways I replaced the fan control module didn't even pull the fan assembly out just one screw unplug it and then same way in.. anyways the weird thing was it worked normal for about 2 days after replacing the fan control module but then it started doing the same thing... I read somewhere about the water/coolant temperature sensor So I drained the coolant replace the sensor but I also put in a new thermostat after that no problems working like it should.. I wonder why I wasn't getting any codes either. Been a little over a month and it's been kind of hot a couple days here and there almost in the '90s but it's running perfect.. BTW it's a 2009 S80 4.4 V8 ..
not 100% sure if my problem is the same, but the shop said this is what they would replace. for $2450. I have a 2010 s80, I hope the process is the same. Thank you
Great work mr! Sometimes the bush fixes is the best fixes. I cant see any sensible reason to pay one hundred million moneys to a workshop which makes a simple repair sound almost impossible, unless we are willing to drain every last penny we can pick together. Unless of course its a warranty job, then the workshop can use what ever hours they feel suit. I really dont care. For maximum fun I usually reminds them of the copious amount of work required for the almost impossible repair!
Great video if it works for you that's what matters not opinions from others . I have done this along with a new radiator so I was removing the transmission line . I picked the hottest day of the year and my nicest white clothes and waited till noon to start so It would be sweltering hot and miserable and destroy my new tennis shoes and my favorite new outfit. This is the way all real home mechanics do this !!!!😅
Good video. My cooling fan not turn on for long time. Now I replace fan relay, the fan turning , but not stop . I had take off temperature sensor connector. It still running. And connected both side of with a wire it still running any help thanks a lot
Brilliant, but instead of modifying the lower bracket you can actually remove the tranny cooler unit by removing one screw then pull the unit out, wish I could attach a picture on the app!! Good job!
volvo s60 diesel 163 hp I start the engine, turn on the air conditioner, it works for 1 time for 2 minutes and it says error 048387 and stops. The fan is new
Hi I would really appreciate information if you have it. I'm wondering where you found the assembly with the module for 220 bucks and if it fits the 2012 XC70 T6.
Mechanic at 25 years here unfortunately my friend from your video there was nothing wrong with the fans you just affectively overpaid for a new module hopefully this one will last you longer a common problem sorry
Could be, but the price difference between the module and entire unit was relatively small so to me it made sense. But also because the job was fairly easy.
volvo s60 diesel 163 hp I start the engine, turn on the air conditioner, it works for 1 time for 2 minutes and it says error 048387 and stops. The fan is new
My man’s went above and beyond for this video, great work dude!
Thanks. Glad to help.
Your man's what?
Great video. I know it sounds crazy but my fan finally came out with just bending the plastic frame a little bit, just enough to clear the obstruction. The wide arc of the whole unit is a bit flexible and I didn't damage anything. The new fan went in the same way, just a bit of a push back toward the engine. It takes a lot of wiggle and movement, one side up, then down, etc. but it eventually goes in. No damage. Then set the electrical connection, secure it in the four brackets, gather your tools, and clean up. It's been working fine ever since. PS, my problem was the big fan would never come on. 2009 Volvo V70 3.2
That's not crazy, it's awesome. Next time! (I HOPE NOT) 😂
Ok. This is the best explanation I’ve ever seen for a technical problem on a car. I am planning to buy a S80 T6, so I think I may need this in the future.
Thank you. That means a lot. Good luck in your purchase.
I really appreciate your great story telling method! Im in a time emergency so I’m at a specialized dealership that does the work much cheaper. But now I know for the future! Thanks
Thank you, and the tips from other people's replies for this! On 4 March '23, the smaller fan (AC condenser fan) wouldn't turn off on my 2015 XC60. Since it's the AC fan, and the weather hasn't warmed up yet, I just disconnected the plug for the smaller fan from the bottom of the control module. I opted for free 7-day shipping when I ordered the new fan housing unit, so after tax, it was $103 on eBay. I will take tips and tricks from your video, and also from the comments posted by people below to make this a much less painful repair.
Thanks, and good luck.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!! You explained and thought this out so well. This video saved me about $1000 I was quoted. We found that taking out the engine air filter to reach the screw for the oil cooler made it easier to take it out and have room to install the new fan.
I have the same car and just replaced my fan in about 30 minutes. I removed the tabs that were blocked by hoses by using a reciprocating saw and it popped out easily.
You def have to wiggle it and move some hoses but it's easy
Installing it was not too bad. The only thing I had to move was the large radiator hose on the passenger side and the fan dropped in easily. A little bending was necessary but it was about a 3/10 on the difficulty scale.
This video is appreciated but way over the top.
Thanks for the info on your fix.
Your video is exactly what I needed for my 2008, Volvo V 70. Awesome job. Thank you!
I'm glad. Thanks for letting me know.
My 2003 Volvo has suddenly developed the same out the blue problem. I make some long trips and was glad my fan issues happened close to home. I do almost 95% of the work on my 2 Volvos and I'm glad I was not 400 miles away from my garage, that is well equipped. I have the part on order, but thanks for the installation tips. Mine might not be exactly the same, but your efforts and video maybe of help. Thanks
Good luck. I hope it helps some.
NESTO P: I was able to get the module released from the fan assy - NOTE: PHILLIPS SCREW HOLDS IT IN!!!! - but that was it. Because of the location of AC and other parts, I could not pull the fan assy up (which would work on some cars, I guess.), although it could come up part-way. so I went to my independent dealer (SHOUTOUT to EUROTECH - Virginia Beach). $120 later, all was well. He had to drop the skid covers, etc, and grab it/install it from below. The assy works well and fixed the problem. and yes, the old broken one did kill the battery. Good luck!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! THE BEST car-fixing video I have ever seen, honestly! I had this exact problem - but with much more drama associated with brakes, transmission, and key fob retention. (overcome) BUT... this problem - the culprit being the module, I was "unsure". You gave me another CEU in Volvo repair - thank you! I have owned 14 Volvos to date, and could/can work on all but the newest (2016 XC90 T6 AWD). My best to you!
Very glad to have helped.
What did you end up doing?
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My xc60 just started doing this. I'm not sure if I should replace the module first.
Thanks for the video. On the lower tabs I cut approximately 1/4 inch off the tabs. This allow me to remove and when I replaced I did the same thing on the new one. When I replaced I had more than enough tab to lock back in place on the bottom. Your idea helped me thanks.
Awesome
Not necessary. I did mine without doing that
Great explanation, another method that worked for me was to unscrew the trans cooler. Its held with one screw on top, no need to disconnect the hoses and thus no loss of any coolant or oil. It'll give you the inches needed to get the fan out
Great idea. I should have considered that too.
This doesn't really work, literally doing this right now, and to even unbolt that trans cooler and move it, there's a short hose to the radiator that has to be disconnected, which will want to throw coolant everywhere. The other issue is, with the tab on that bottom end, it's also going to get snagged on the lower coolant return hose. You really need to drain the system and move the hoses to get this done.
@@Dracasethaen Is your car an S80? What year? It worked for my car.
@@mikethedesertrat not the video specifically, the comment about just moving the transmission cooler out of the way.
Did mine tonight. Without your guidance, would have tajen me 3 times as long 🚙
Awesome!
Wow bro. Probably the best car fix video I’ve ever scene
Appreciate that. I hope it helps.
I would never buy anything other than OEM for the fans and control unit. Online parts like this often come from China and won't last as long. Great Video. Glad to know something is easy to remove on the 3.2 inline six
Lots of OEM come from China too, but yes, some brand are better than others. Thanks for the comment.
Brother Volvo has been owned by China for years now ever since Ford sold them off, The whole damn car is made in china. That's a moot point.
I almost don’t even care if this fixes my issue. I’m making the swap anyway. What an on point video! 5 ⭐️’s
Thank you, I hope it DOES fix it!
Great showmanship, easily understood by me
Thank you
Thank you for your awesome video! You definitely saved my Headache, I exactly having the same problem fan my fa kick on the moment I start my 07 s60 2.5 T and of Cours drains my battery . Already changed the temperature sensor and I was looking for a cooling fan really when I seen your video if my don’t have the really I’m 100% positive I will be changing the cooling fan assembly . Thank you again.
Good luck! And thanks.
Very helpful, Thanks. Just ordered the control unit, hoping that will fix my situation and I don't have to replace the whole fan unit.
Hopefully that fixes it.
Extremely helpful information and detailed insight to procedure. Thank you for the video!
11:19. I just read in VIDA that if you push the bottom of the fan toward the rear of the car it will clear all obstructions. Never tried this but may help someone else if they need to remove the fan.
Thank you. Good tip that's worth a try.
Hello Mike; excellent job describing your problem and instructions on how you replaced the fan unit. Might have to replace mine. Cooling fan came on after trying to start my volvo. Fan ran for approximately 10 minutes,then stopped. Was able to start vehicle about 10 minutes later. However, fan doesn't run while engine is running. Disconnect fuse for 10 seconds; reconnected fuse. Fan still doesn't come on. Might have to request the company's # ;where you purchased your unit if needed.
Thx.
Robin
Thank you. I hope you can fix it. I bought the part at CarParts (.com). I don't know if the prices have changed since then. Mine is still working.
AWESOME VIDEO!!! I’ll admit I only watched about half of the video before I started. I came to the same conclusion on the bottom clip being stuck on the oil cooler. Just cut it. I’m gonna try and replace it by just cutting like 1/4 of an inch off that clip.
Glad it helped, and for your honesty 😂
@@mikethedesertrat 🤣. Your pre fab clip in after idea is brilliant. Worked perfect on my 13 s60 t5. A lift made putting the clip on a breeze. Thank you again for the awesome video!!!
I mean this as a compliment, your voice sounds like Charles Bukowski. Also thanks for the help on the radiator fan.
Compliment accepted. Thanks.
I'm an electrical engineer and can help all understand why, probably, that first control unit failed and everything was great after you replaced the entire fan assembly (with 2 new fan motors.) Electrical motors have wound copper wires to make the magnetic fields which cause fan rotation. Those wires have coating, like insulating paint. Over the years, the heat and weather can wear down and corrode that varnish coating so some wires of the windings short together, which is bad. More amperage -- more current -- occurs but the motor still runs. Eventually the additional amperage exceeds the ability of the electronics (solid state or relay?) inside that "control module" so the module fails. In your first fix at the shop, they installed a new module but likely did not check the amperage going through your fan motors. Since the motors were bad (too much current draw) they soon destroyed your first new control module too, just like the current eventually destroyed the original. When you bought new fans (with a new control module) everything was back within specifications and design like new -- the fans pulled the appropriate amount of amperage, which the new module could handle fine. Now you know the WHYs of the failures you saw. Great video!
Thanks for this Mike. My fan doesn't turn on at all, at least since I've managed to work my way through through ignored maintenance and some wiring issues created by the previous owner. I'll be checking fuses and testing the wiring and fan control unit / module but knowing that it's this convenient to remove this part, I'll be more than willing to get into it.
Hope it helps. Good luck.
Thanks Mike. I really appreciated your detailed description.
Thank you.
I'm hoping that removing the fan assembly makes enough space to easily get to the throttle and clean it 💁
Thanks for this ~
Good luck! 👍
SBF of FTX steals billions in customer funds. Volvo repair shops: hold my beer.
Haha. True.
Got the same problem.
Thanks Mike.
Ill post when I have mine replaced
Hope it helps.
That shop tried to take you for a LOOOOOOOONG RIDE!....Glad you figured it out without them. Geeeezus !!!
Thanks. Me too.
Thank you for your video details in replacing fan module,saves$$$$$❤
Glad to help.
I apperiacte the effort you put into this video, Thank you.
Thank you for the comment.
Thanks Mike, I have a range rover evoque with the same problem. I naively bought the control module on ebay. Although it stopped turning on when connected, when it reaches a high temperature it does not turn on either. I have read that you have to change the whole system, not just the module.
I hope it works out for you.
I'll share my same scenario with my XC90. Unlike the S80, the XC90 has a temperature meter at the dash. This problem happened when my temperature sensor failed, rendering no temperature reading to the ECU. The ECU is smart to detect this failure, and to prevent overheating due to "no temperature signal", would run the fan aggressively and continue to run it for like 3-5 minutes after the engine is stopped.
Interesting. Thanks.
Unbolt the oil cooler and remove the two triangular blocks that support the top of the radiator. The is no need to cut mounting tads.
Not necessary I did it without removing anything but the large radiator hose
Had a similar problem, Well not exactly You see my fans they were barely turning on and when they did it felt like they were running at a very low speed.. anyways I replaced the fan control module didn't even pull the fan assembly out just one screw unplug it and then same way in.. anyways the weird thing was it worked normal for about 2 days after replacing the fan control module but then it started doing the same thing... I read somewhere about the water/coolant temperature sensor So I drained the coolant replace the sensor but I also put in a new thermostat after that no problems working like it should.. I wonder why I wasn't getting any codes either. Been a little over a month and it's been kind of hot a couple days here and there almost in the '90s but it's running perfect.. BTW it's a 2009 S80 4.4 V8 ..
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. I wouldn't have guessed that might fix the problem.
Do these as a pair at the dealership. And no coolant hose removal needed. Just a lot of wiggling and bending to get the assembly out and in.
Thanks for the info. Confirms what i thought.
not 100% sure if my problem is the same, but the shop said this is what they would replace. for $2450. I have a 2010 s80, I hope the process is the same. Thank you
It looks like you could also unbolt and move the transmission cooler and have room for that one tab. Thanks for the video.
Quite possibly.
Or, just take your handy hacksaw and start randomly cutting stuff...
Great work mr!
Sometimes the bush fixes is the best fixes.
I cant see any sensible reason to pay one hundred million moneys to a workshop which makes a simple repair sound almost impossible, unless we are willing to drain every last penny we can pick together.
Unless of course its a warranty job, then the workshop can use what ever hours they feel suit. I really dont care. For maximum fun I usually reminds them of the copious amount of work required for the almost impossible repair!
Thank you.
Nice testing procedure
Great video if it works for you that's what matters not opinions from others . I have done this along with a new radiator so I was removing the transmission line . I picked the hottest day of the year and my nicest white clothes and waited till noon to start so It would be sweltering hot and miserable and destroy my new tennis shoes and my favorite new outfit. This is the way all real home mechanics do this !!!!😅
Haha. That's about right. Thanks.
I'm removing the fan to slide the A/C compressor out. I just put a new alternator in and don't want to do it again. Thanks Mike.
Great Hi-Tech simulation!
😂 thanks
Good video. My cooling fan not turn on for long time. Now I replace fan relay, the fan turning , but not stop . I had take off temperature sensor connector. It still running. And connected both side of with a wire it still running any help thanks a lot
I have the same issue. Is your fan working for 10 minutes and then cutting off?
Brilliant, but instead of modifying the lower bracket you can actually remove the tranny cooler unit by removing one screw then pull the unit out, wish I could attach a picture on the app!! Good job!
Thanks for the tip. Sounds fairly easy.
I got a cx60 2011 and am thinking the fan assembly is hoped
Top tier work
Thanks, I appreciate it.
Loosening the one screw for the transmission cooler and removing the air filter box worked best for me.
Nice. Glad you got it.
volvo s60 diesel 163 hp I start the engine, turn on the air conditioner, it works for 1 time for 2 minutes and it says error 048387 and stops. The fan is new
Hi I would really appreciate information if you have it. I'm wondering where you found the assembly with the module for 220 bucks and if it fits the 2012 XC70 T6.
How often was this issue after you fix it first time
Fantastic video!
I’m about to tackle this now
Thanks for the awesome production
Let’s see what else this guy has to show: subscribed!
Thanks so much for the comments and support. Good luck on the repair.
Same fan module and control unit for Land Rover Freelander II 2007-
Interesting. Thanks.
I thought this was a software issue, fixed by a recall?
You should remove intake manifold and then get into fan
Excellent video
Thank you very much.
I need to replace this on my c30 the dealer wanted $1200 to do the work so wish me luck. 😅
Good luck. Let us know.
Well done
Thanks.
Thank u man ur a boss
LEGEND!!
Love it
Thank you.
Thank you 🙏..
You're welcome. Hope it helps.
Ya maybe probaly could have used a cable tie or two
Its not gouging. They can charge whatever they want. Its their labor and tools and shop
My fan doesnt work when i turn off the car the fun start running!!
Where is that fix?
@@harrymanback5817 I'm not sure I understand. I show the entire process.
Dum question but why did you decide to go with the fan over the auxillery fan module unit thingy??
Not a dumb question, I'm just not sure I understand it. I explain exactly how I ended up doing what I did (i.e., "why").
I'd pay you...where are you?
I clear the error and the air conditioner works
Mechanic at 25 years here unfortunately my friend from your video there was nothing wrong with the fans you just affectively overpaid for a new module hopefully this one will last you longer a common problem sorry
Could be, but the price difference between the module and entire unit was relatively small so to me it made sense. But also because the job was fairly easy.
Thank you 😎👍
volvo s60 diesel 163 hp I start the engine, turn on the air conditioner, it works for 1 time for 2 minutes and it says error 048387 and stops. The fan is new