@@ville_1235 Yes we lost but this scene is one of battles during Tali-ihantala battle what forced Soviets to have separate peace with us since they could not advance and they needed their forces more dire in eastern front.
One thing I do know is you do NOT want to get into a pitched battle with Finnish infantry in one of THEIR many, massive forests that form a natural barrier to the interior of their country. They attack through the woods at strategic points to divide your force into smaller, isolated groups. Then they overwhelm said groups one by one. Classic Finnish "Motti" tactics, and excellent use of their terrain, allows for Finland to be a very hard nut to crack indeed!
Great respect for the Fins in the Winter War and the Continuation War. One thing I learnt from my Finnish friend, here in Australia, is that you don't fuck with a Viking.
@@TindaIPSC He didn't claim the Finnish being vikings. He just said that he learned from his Finnish friend that you don't fuck with vikings. Maybe the Finnish guy spoke out of experience.
You Caucasian people are tough as nails, centuries of oppression but never ceased to exist in your own beautiful way, I think you know even better than us how to fight Russians. I heard there is a saying ''it takes a caucasian to defeat a caucasian.
@@user-gv7uu8no9k Do you have any sources supporting your claim? AFAIK five (5) Swedish volunteers were captured by the soviets during the Winter War in Salla by the 122 ID, in which Margelov was serving. Two of them were pilots: a 1st Lt and a 2nd Lt. They were severely tortured by their capturers. That leaves three others. No source seems to mention anything about them. I doubt any of those were high ranking officers.
This battle is supposed to be the battle of Tienhaara 22-25.06.1944 when russians tried to advance west from Viipuri. Historically it was much larger affair and instead of the small creek it was fought at the bay of Viipuri. But anyway the russoan onslaught was stopped there by artillery and swedish speaking Finnish brigade.
Tässä leffas muistaakseni Ilkka Heiskanen näyttelee Alpo Marttista!. Itellä tää dvd:nä Marttinen onneks pysty kaakkoissuomes(silloises) pitämään Ryssän loitolla ja niistä mustista silmän alusista näki et ei ollu Marttinen hirveesti nukkun.. sittemmin muutti lätäkön toisellepuolelle!🇫🇮
Artillery fire officer ask to shoot at SORVALI called fire barrage. It is a name of one part in Vyborg city limits. This fighting is after June 20. 1944, Finarmy black day . Nations secon biggest city was lost and best Finnish harbour. Here Red army were stopped, Later they tryed to attack deeper still two different pushes at Karelian isthmus. Luckily they where stopped too. Lets stay in peace for ever
The whole population of Finland was then smaller that population of St Petersburg ( then Leningrd ) The bigest Finish factory makes then matches and fertilizers . No tanks , no modern planes , no heavy industry . Yet they beat the bloody Soviets , and keep own independence and country . Now compare this for e.g France.
Okay who was the ASVB wavered Mental Cat 4's who left serviceable boats on the other side of the river? Also , you did not have E- tools and a couple of saws to build a proper fighting postion?
Just a year ago, I had thought that scenes involving ferocious fighting such as these were long gone, never ever to be repeated. But now about the same is being surrealistically unfolding in Ukraine.
@@borispesenson226 The soviets tried to cross the Kivisalmi river immediately after conquering the town of Viipuri, obviously believing in quick success while the Finns were still on the run. That was obviously the reason why their artillery could not follow pace. That was also a mistake which Finns used to their favor.
Spetznas group,are only a group of show fighters with karate kicks but if you do not see Finns they have nothing to do. Motti tactics was effectiv then and will be today. Russian soldiers fear even today finnish guerilla fighters and snipers.
@Armegido Megido "Framom främsta linjen" (Swedish for "In Front of the Frontline". It tells the story of a Swedish-speaking infantry regiment of the Finnish army in the so-called Continuation War, from 1941-1944. There are two official languages in Finland, Finnish and Swedish. In this clip you can hear both Finnish and Swedish being used.
@@nefskycor No! The Fins had German equipment. The Fins cooperated with, but did not ally themselves, to the Germans. This was simply because they were both fighting the same enemy, and the promised support from the Allies never materialised. The Fins allowed German aircraft to operate from their airfields in return for German equipment.
@@user-lu2kr8np2e oh youuuu my sweeeety. Finland's population that time 3,5 million and Soviet's like 155, 5 milion and Finland preserved it's independence and freedom. A big victoria.
Seems weird that neither side thought to mount a vertical or horizontal grip on their SMGs. Looks awkward holding it by the drum magazine as well as an accident waiting to happen
Seems like all the Finns have Suomi light SMGs. It was quite rare weapon an issued mainly for NCOs. This is historically inaccurate but still good action.
There weren't many smg in winterwar but after it and during continuation war production ramped up, and for example in tali ihantala battle rear units traded their smg for bolt action rifles with units that went to front lines
Considering the Soviet invasion on Finland was in January and February I’d say even the weather is inaccurate. They called it the “Winter War” for a reason. I guess whatever this clip is from missed that part of the story.
@@ryandoubleu. This has nothing to do with the Winter War (30.11.1939-13.3.1940). This is the battle of Tali-Ihantala in the summer of 1944. The biggest battle ever in the history of the Nordic nations. Bigger than el-Alamein btw.
С чего бы им комплексовать? Ты реалии твоего народа-то на финнов не проецируй. Финляндия - социально благополучное и экономически развитое государство, которое трижды смогло отстоять свою независимость от Советской Империи Зла, значительно преуменьшив численность вашей армии))))
@@rudolfkraffzick642 in winter war we lost 11% and in continuation war we lost our northern part of finland was it petsamo that we lost in continuation war?)
Jii Hoo Tää pätkä oli leffasta Tali-Ihantala. Noi samat ruotsia puhuvat jannut oli myös Etulinjan Edessä leffassa. Molemmat leffat oli Åke Lindmanin ohjaamia. Se halus pistää ilmeisesti lyhyen pätkän niistä samoista jannuista tähänki leffaan.
@@tarpattituopponen7783 False, they were swedish speaking finns (mostly) in IR 61. Kurt West was one of them, and he wrote a book about the war, it's called "vi slogs och blödde" though I think it has been translated to finnish too. Really good book!
@@tarpattituopponen7783 Also, many of the scenes were from the movie "framom främsta linjen". A movie based of one of the swedish speaking finns' diaries.
@@powerrogue8410 veitsi, tuo mystinen asia ei ole ihan uusi meille suomalaisille. Lapinleuku... Mutta asiasta toiseen. Katso ne järkyttävät luvut mitä ryssiä jäi Suomen maahan. Ne on oikeasti todella rumat. Talvisodassa pelkästään lähti puoli miljoonaa ryssää vs. 27 tuhatta suomalaista.
Финляндия не проиграла ни Зиму, ни Войну продолжения. Финляндия получила оборонительную победу в обеих этих войнах. Целью Советского Союза было захватить всю Финляндию и включить ее в состав СССР. Финская армия предотвратила это в тяжелых битвах и сумела остановить советское наступление, и Финляндия смогла заключить мирное соглашение с Советским Союзом по обеим этим войнам. И не было фашизма в Финляндии. Финляндия была демократической нацией на протяжении всей войны.
Брехня ! Нееет брехня все " герои " СССР и их дешёвые фильмы - понты ! Ваши рассуждения это ркссуждения псих больного чел - не русское " правда" это не правда , русские сказки это реальность !
@@user-bi1sq8fb3l а у моего соседа как раз свинья по имени Виктор Хуйчук ! Прежде чем писать русское говно надо иметь уваж опоненту и историческим фактам !
On the contrary. The highest scoring sniper in history was a Fin fighting in the Winter War, Simo Häyhä. He racked up over 700 kills, mostly using a Russian Moisin Nagant rifle with open sights. He didn't need a telescope. Scroll down to #1 listverse.com/2009/11/13/top-10-snipers-in-history/
The ones doing the actual fighting weren't bad shots.😂Theirs a few documentaries on TH-cam about the Finn's kicking Russian ass... The Finn's eventually caved in though. Only after they inflicted devastating losses on the invading Russian force's...
@Just Smashing We didn't need that toy because we had the Suomi SMG, 9 mm round, rate of fire about 10 shots per second. 70-shot drum magazine. Makes the Thompson look like a squirt gun in comparison.
Or then its a false statement to begin with. Good luck finding a finnish film where Finland actually wins a war they historically lost (winter war or the continuation war). The finns win in this specific movie due to the fact that this movie is about the single largest battle ever fought in the Nordic history, the battle of Tali-Ihantala, which Finland did indeed win. Finland does NOT win a WAR in this film.
@@rothary1641 The battle for the Mannerheim line was much bigger. And the Finns did not defeat the Soviet army, but only suspended its advance. Victory is when you force the enemy off the battlefield. The Soviet army advanced 10 to 12 kilometers in this battle.
@@user-xr4wu4rp2r "The battle for the Mannerheim line" is not exactly a thing. The fighting on the Mannerheim line consisted of numerous battles, all part of a big offensive, not a single big major battle. Here's a map of sort about the actions at the Mannerheim line in february-march 1940, individual battles (equivelant in concept of the battle of Tali-Ihantala during the 1944 offensive) being represented by the yellow explosion-like icons www.talvisota.fi/wp-content/uploads/wg1081-01.jpg And yes, Finland did not defeat the Soviet army, nor did anyone claim such. Otherwise Finland would've pretty much won the war, which they absolutely did not. Yes, finland did however suspend its advance in the battle of Tali-Ihantala, which is literally the definition of a defensive victory. If your goal is to stop the enemy from advancing, and the goal of the enemy is to push through the defences and keep on advancing, but their advance is indeed stopped, then it's safe to say the defenders won that specific battle.
Well about 60 thousand Fins chewed up about 300,000 Soviet troops. Soviet troops had such poor supply lines they nearly all starved to death. Don't mess with people that know how to use reindeer as supply-line pack animals and also use them for meat in their own territory. :) Hitler's decision to invade Russia was in part because he saw how fucked up Soviet performance ever was since Stalin had stupidly executed all his senior officers because of his paranoia. .
@@rothary1641 We start doing nonsense because we are arguing about terms, not about the essence of the phenomenon. I want to convey to you one simple idea. In 1940 and 1944 the Finnish army was not finally defeated and Finland was occupied, not because it was difficult for the Soviet army to do so. Finland, as an independent state, was more useful at that time.
Regarding the winter war, the Russians / Soviets are NOT interested in invading for the sake of invasion, Nazi style. They have to have a reason. In the beginning of the Winter war, the Soviets did not know that the karelians (who lived in a province called Karelia formerly owned by Finland and formerly by Sweden and formerly by Imperial russia) liked attending Russian Orthodox church services, and that many Karelians spoke a medieval form of Russian in the Kizhi islands. As the Soviets came in contact with Keralians, they came to know that many ethnic Karelians of Karelia considered themselves as Russian speaking peoples too. No need for Rambo style propaganda videos. Northern Karelia and west Karelia are smaller parts of karelia which stayed with Finland after ww2. The Romanov dynasty built their medieval capital city of saint Petersburg in the area near Karelia for a reason: Southern Karelia is Russian Karelia. Karelian language and their written Karelian in the past years are medieval Russian in Cyrillic script of the 13th century. During Swedish rule, some Karelian people switched to Swedish or Roman script. Other karelians stuck with Cyrillic script when ruled by Sweden. The people there are trying to revive Shakespearean era Russian language, called Karelian language, in Karelia for tourism purposes, even though they speak Russian at home. . The karelians spoke a medieval form of Russian and medieval form of Cyrillic Russian language, and did not mind if visiting people called them "Russians" by mistake. Difference between Karelian and modern Russian is like the difference between Shakespearean English and modern English of England. The people of Russian Karelia province used to write in a medieval form of the Russian language in the 13th century, as indicated by internet search. Near the Finnish border, the government in Saint Petersburg (pronounced Sain - Peter-Boorg in Russia) recently had a demo in about 1935 of new artillery pieces by a Bolshevik manufacturer of artillery gunnery that can hit targets 26 miles from the artillery gun pieces. reason 1) The Finnish soldiers wore military uniforms similar to German Nazi uniforms to a layman. This raised red flags among the people living in Saint Petersburg, The border that time was 26 miles from Saint Petersburg. So they asked the Finns to move the border further away than 26 miles from Saint Petersburg, which to some is preposterous. The Bolsheviks promised to give Finns other lands filled with frozen lakes and pine forests in other areas bordering the two countries if the Finns move further away than 26 miles from Saint Petersburg. Finns turned this offer down, if I remember right from having read about it a few years back. This meant war. In 1926 while under Finnland, the population of Karelia was 57.2 ethnic Russian, Karelians formed about 20 percent of the population probably, as per Wikipedia.com data. In 1939, the ethnic Russian population was 63 percent even while under Fin rule. Finland is a Scandinavian country of pine forests and frozen lakes with a small overall population of 4.7 million or so, similar to the population of greater Boston, and Finland has a modern big area the size of new England states and Pennsylvania state put together. The Karelians were for centuries attended Russian orthodox church. They claim that their current language larelian is a medieval form of Russian language of the medieval times. Russian orthodox church is a congregation of church goers independent of Rome since 988 AD, where the Sunday services and bible talks were similar to ancient Catholic church services, where churches no longer report to Rome since 988 AD. Karelia is now an area partly in Russia and partly in Finland with a native population of Karelian and Sami reindeer shepherds.Some birch bark document shows that the Karelians used medieval russian language in the first half of the 13th century. Written Karelian language is similar to medieval Russian texts of the 13th century and a few other centuries. Karlians are hard core Eastern Orthodox Christians while their language is an ancient form of Russian. If one copies old text of Karelian language and pastes it to Google search engine in "Translate", under from::: enter "Russian", translate to:: English. So, just try translating it to English. the modern English meaning of the Karelian text translates thus, "(in the 13th century, The food of the orthodox Christian Karelian priests should not eat cooked dead reindeer lying on the road killed possibly by someone else who left the scene of the crime." Modern meaning of same translated text == Avoid eating cooked meat of road kill animals." In other words to get a translation of karelian text, to English, just paste the medieval russian looking Karelian text to "Translate screen in Google search of "translate". Even after not considering the ethnic Russian majority in Karelia, the Karelian people there all seem to have Russian first names, like Eleina, Irina, Boris, and do not seem to mind at all being mistaken for being ethnic Russians. The Karelians like being called Russians by mistake, in fact. In other words, Karelia definitely should be in Russia, while west Karelia of Finland and North karelia of Funland should be in Finland, as they are after the winter war. Ethnic Ukrainians of Ukraine do not like being called Russians by mistake, even if many ethnic Ukrainians of Ukraine speak better spoken-Russian, & more fluently than some self styled Russians. An ethnic Karelian may reply to a Rambo type tourist, "I suppose you could say I am an ethnic Russian, Mr. Rambo the racist American tourist. My parents in my parent's village in Karelia taught me to speak a near extinct language called Karelian. We speak Russian at home when tourists are not around. I wear medieval European dresses just in a handful of villages in Kizhi, South Karelia, pilgrim style, like your Amish Christian villagers in your country."
a group of skiers and hunters kicked whole red army. One of the braviest defends of country ever.
@HBB Surely we lost some ground - but not all of Finland. Was it a defensive victory? Depends on the viewpoint.
Nah this was continuation war, which finland lost fair and square
@@ville_1235 Yes we lost but this scene is one of battles during Tali-ihantala battle what forced Soviets to have separate peace with us since they could not advance and they needed their forces more dire in eastern front.
Not really a good description, they had a very good and professional army that beat the Russians with skill and yes surely a lot of determination
@@ulfpe
It was not a professional army, it was a conscription army.
One thing I do know is you do NOT want to get into a pitched battle with Finnish infantry in one of THEIR many, massive forests that form a natural barrier to the interior of their country. They attack through the woods at strategic points to divide your force into smaller, isolated groups. Then they overwhelm said groups one by one. Classic Finnish "Motti" tactics, and excellent use of their terrain, allows for Finland to be a very hard nut to crack indeed!
I agree,and proud to be a finn
Hubris is dangerous.
and don't send fresh meat
today just nuke everything and be done with those forest, just send spetnaz with radiation gear and the war will be done in question of hours...
@@felipewerner6670 a massive overkill imo
PERKELE don't touch our river
Wow. Props to the cameramen who risked their lives to get us this amazing footage. What heroes.
lol
Wait actual cameramen would film battles
No one risked their lives here... it is FILM
@@gerrydepp8164 Nah man, this is clearly from a battle
@@gerrydepp8164 yeah, gotta agree with the other guy
Finland army is really stronger. !! Greetings from Albania
Yes. And i from Finland
Well you did not last that long
@@Ralli_Karpanen Want a medal or something? Kasva aikuiseksi.
Ну да, по сравнению с албанцами, финны очень сильные😂😂😂
@@AatiNiiranen You mean 5 years?
You've not seen nuthing, like the Mighty Finns...
marc layne 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🇷🇺🔪🇫🇮
Great respect for the Fins in the Winter War and the Continuation War. One thing I learnt from my Finnish friend, here in Australia, is that you don't fuck with a Viking.
Finnish not Vikings... If you call them Vikings then whole northeast Europe was Viking
@@TindaIPSC He didn't claim the Finnish being vikings. He just said that he learned from his Finnish friend that you don't fuck with vikings. Maybe the Finnish guy spoke out of experience.
So glad for Finland. We, the people of Caucasus, should to learn from you how to fight against Russia.
You Caucasian people are tough as nails, centuries of oppression but never ceased to exist in your own beautiful way, I think you know even better than us how to fight Russians. I heard there is a saying ''it takes a caucasian to defeat a caucasian.
@@theunusualdispenser9474 thank you bro, so pretty to hear these words from the guy from far Finland 🙂
@@alydaghestani263 you from dagestan?
@@theunusualdispenser9474 yes bro, but should write “DagHestan” :)
@@alydaghestani263 Land of only 2 million and you have so many great fighters and wrestlers. That’s admirable
PERKELE!! Lots of Finnish sisu and yes the Finns have a great army strong 💪🏼 greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪
финны во время войны проспали, и партизаны увели в плен ваших офицеров из генерального штаба
@@user-gv7uu8no9k what are u Even talking about?? If u dont know anything about Finnish war history, then just dont comment anything
@@MRtapio5 вы жертва пропаганды, а про офицеров шведского генерального штаба , это правда, и брал их В.Маргелов, в интернете можете найти
@@user-gv7uu8no9k Do you have any sources supporting your claim?
AFAIK five (5) Swedish volunteers were captured by the soviets during the Winter War in Salla by the 122 ID, in which Margelov was serving.
Two of them were pilots: a 1st Lt and a 2nd Lt. They were severely tortured by their capturers.
That leaves three others. No source seems to mention anything about them. I doubt any of those were high ranking officers.
This battle is supposed to be the battle of Tienhaara 22-25.06.1944 when russians tried to advance west from Viipuri. Historically it was much larger affair and instead of the small creek it was fought at the bay of Viipuri. But anyway the russoan onslaught was stopped there by artillery and swedish speaking Finnish brigade.
The Russians had 3000.deads
The Fins used T -26 tanks
I guess your right, the scenes are from the movie Tali-Ihantala 1944,great movie!
@@stephanl1983 or is it from the movie Framom främsta linjen?
шведская бригада , просрала весь участок фронта, после прорыва финны запросили мира
@@user-gv7uu8no9k Swedish speaking finns not swedish
This is finnish forest, because it is raked so well.
Tässä leffas muistaakseni Ilkka Heiskanen näyttelee Alpo Marttista!. Itellä tää dvd:nä Marttinen onneks pysty kaakkoissuomes(silloises) pitämään Ryssän loitolla ja niistä mustista silmän alusista näki et ei ollu Marttinen hirveesti nukkun.. sittemmin muutti lätäkön toisellepuolelle!🇫🇮
Finish soldiers are elite🐯
Gotta admit I like seeing these men fight they do good work before they lost. But up a hell of a fight
только в кино)
👍
As I Finnish soldier I've seen bad ones as well..
@@pekkar4460 same as in mine, the portugese, south korean and thai as well. But those bad apples would be rotten in whatever they did in life.
Artillery fire officer ask to shoot at SORVALI called fire barrage. It is a name of one part in Vyborg city limits. This fighting is after June 20. 1944, Finarmy black day . Nations secon biggest city was lost and best Finnish harbour. Here Red army were stopped, Later they tryed to attack deeper still two different pushes at Karelian isthmus. Luckily they where stopped too. Lets stay in peace for ever
Greetings, Heroic Finns, A Nation that besides Poles resisted the Bolshevik creature!
I remember the nice polish bolshevik film "chetire tankista i pios". Finns have defended their freedom, but you have lost, like many other nations..
Finland showed what free men can do
The whole population of Finland was then smaller that population of St Petersburg ( then Leningrd )
The bigest Finish factory makes then matches and fertilizers . No tanks , no modern planes , no heavy industry . Yet they beat the bloody Soviets , and keep own independence and country . Now compare this for e.g France.
We like our forests, OUR forests =)
I was rooting for the good guys the whole time!
I was rooting for the guys that had the best intentions.
Which side are you talking about?
@@AS-bu9rw they are both taking about the finns
Okay who was the ASVB wavered Mental Cat 4's who left serviceable boats on the other side of the river? Also , you did not have E- tools and a couple of saws to build a proper fighting postion?
SISU !
Great and brave Finns 👏👏👏👏👏
Suomi perrrrrrkele
Just a year ago, I had thought that scenes involving ferocious fighting such as these were long gone, never ever to be repeated. But now about the same is being surrealistically unfolding in Ukraine.
Whats movie is?
👍 Tough 💥💥💥!!
What film is this from?
Framom främsta linjen. A movie about IR 61, which was full of swedish speaking finns, that's why most of the movie is in swedish.
Tali-Ihantala 1944
@@stephanl1983 eikä ole
Movie name ?
Thanx for our German frends for the STUGS!
Are those mark IIIs or IIs
@@siftknife761 They are mark fuck soviet union.
So, Nazi bustards is your friends?
@@Mishik77 u know shit. Stfu communist ape.
@@Mishik77 Better dead than red
Pls whats movie name
I wasn't aware that the Fins and the Germans shared the same helmets.
Imperial Stormtroopers ca 1942.
Happy River crossing...
A lovely day to go boating or fishing with the kids
Does anyone know what movie this is?
Framom främsta linjen
Finnish: Etulinjan edessä
Swedish: Framom främsta linjen
English: Beyond the Front Line
This was mostly for the camera, I think.
Класс
Dam Stalin. Evil
Soviets without artillery support are dead Reds.
sillyone52062 problem is Soviet usually have great artillery support.
@@borispesenson226 The soviets tried to cross the Kivisalmi river immediately after conquering the town of Viipuri, obviously believing in quick success while the Finns were still on the run. That was obviously the reason why their artillery could not follow pace. That was also a mistake which Finns used to their favor.
Spetznas group,are only a group of show fighters with karate kicks but if you do not see Finns they have nothing to do. Motti tactics was effectiv then and will be today. Russian soldiers fear even today finnish guerilla fighters and snipers.
How the fuck that atrillery had so good accuracy?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tali%E2%80%93Ihantala
See the part "Ihantala July 1-9".
The accuracy of the Finnish artillery is explained there.
What is the name of the movie??
@Armegido Megido "Framom främsta linjen" (Swedish for "In Front of the Frontline". It tells the story of a Swedish-speaking infantry regiment of the Finnish army in the so-called Continuation War, from 1941-1944. There are two official languages in Finland, Finnish and Swedish. In this clip you can hear both Finnish and Swedish being used.
@@finntastique3891 ok thanks greetings from Serbia
Ok Man, thanks for the reply.
What's the movie title?
Etulinjan edessä. I dont remember its Swedish name. Tell those finnish company who motherlanguage is Swedish. Åke Lindmans movie.
Tali-ihantala
@@jakkeledin4645 framom främsta linjen is the swedish name
What's Finland 🇫🇮tank name
STUg Lyfe!
The Finns gave Reds only language they understand....in 1940s and still true in 2019,...
Pukko
The peasants killing each other, on either side, had little choice in the matter.
STUPID THING, THERE ARE NO MORE REDS IN 2019
Alguém poderia me dizer o nome desse filme
I think its Etulinjan Edessä
Alguém sabe me dizer o nome desse filme
Tali-Ihantala
@@nikollasmendes2434 ei ole
I was rooting for somebody to hit somebody cus lead was flying everywhere and no one was falling ,,,,dam waste of ammo
It's called suppressive fire you dumbnut
Name of the film?
Tali-Ihantala 1944
@@stephanl1983 This is Etulinjan edessä (Framom främsta linjen)
english: Beyond the Front Line
@@SunSummer90 okay, I mixed them up, both good movies
Finnish
Thank you, corrected.
@@ShotgunBomBom
Finnish vs german
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Years?
@kivikunnas thank you.
Peace for you house
@@nefskycor No! The Fins had German equipment. The Fins cooperated with, but did not ally themselves, to the Germans. This was simply because they were both fighting the same enemy, and the promised support from the Allies never materialised. The Fins allowed German aircraft to operate from their airfields in return for German equipment.
@@user-lu2kr8np2e oh youuuu my sweeeety. Finland's population that time 3,5 million and Soviet's like 155, 5 milion and Finland preserved it's independence and freedom. A big victoria.
Perkele!
Seems weird that neither side thought to mount a vertical or horizontal grip on their SMGs. Looks awkward holding it by the drum magazine as well as an accident waiting to happen
Kp-31 drums were quality stuff. Using mags like a grip wasn't a real problem.
Theres a reason why there weren't grips in Every single smg 😅
Those gun's were the best for winter battle's which is why even the enemy used them against the Russian army
Захватили часть финнляндии.и организовали там.нищету.и служение ..врагам народа.
Those tanks had swastikas on them.
Yeah it’s a symbol of good luck
Finland started using the swastika as a symbol before the Nazi`s did....
Finns aregreat fighters
PERKELE
Seems like all the Finns have Suomi light SMGs. It was quite rare weapon an issued mainly for NCOs. This is historically inaccurate but still good action.
There weren't many smg in winterwar but after it and during continuation war production ramped up, and for example in tali ihantala battle rear units traded their smg for bolt action rifles with units that went to front lines
Considering the Soviet invasion on Finland was in January and February I’d say even the weather is inaccurate. They called it the “Winter War” for a reason. I guess whatever this clip is from missed that part of the story.
@@ryandoubleu. Right! And it was a damn cold winter...
@@ryandoubleu. This has nothing to do with the Winter War (30.11.1939-13.3.1940). This is the battle of Tali-Ihantala in the summer of 1944. The biggest battle ever in the history of the Nordic nations. Bigger than el-Alamein btw.
@@finntastique3891 Ah you're right, my bad. I didn't even notice the Nazi tanks when I watched this originally.
So Sue Me
Потери РККА были колосалльными
нехилый у фиников комплекс неполноценности)))
С чего бы им комплексовать? Ты реалии твоего народа-то на финнов не проецируй. Финляндия - социально благополучное и экономически развитое государство, которое трижды смогло отстоять свою независимость от Советской Империи Зла, значительно преуменьшив численность вашей армии))))
The tanks have swastikas ???
The swastika was the nationality sign of Finnish Airforce and armoured units 1917 - 1944.
Wow thanks for the info
@@Jtwhite224Sad that Hitler spoiled it ...
Still in use in the air force. Here is Stakunta air command. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satakunta_Air_Command
Поздравляю вас с праздником 9 мая ! С праздником великой Победы!
Long live free Finland!
Exactor Mortis 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🇷🇺🔪🇫🇮
Perkele forever
benis xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I would guess the Finn's would just run away.
Well it didn't happen😅
And the end of those 2 wars for fins is a 20% of their lend has been lost. 🤷♂️👏👏👏
Finnland lost 10 %, not 20.
And if there was no restistance, they would have lost propably the whole country.
@@rudolfkraffzick642 that is true
@@rudolfkraffzick642 in winter war we lost 11% and in continuation war we lost our northern part of finland was it petsamo that we lost in continuation war?)
Which movie this scene was copied from?
Etulinjan edessä
Jii Hoo Tää pätkä oli leffasta Tali-Ihantala. Noi samat ruotsia puhuvat jannut oli myös Etulinjan Edessä leffassa. Molemmat leffat oli Åke Lindmanin ohjaamia. Se halus pistää ilmeisesti lyhyen pätkän niistä samoista jannuista tähänki leffaan.
This scene was from movie Tali-Ihantala. Last guys shouting were actually Swedish volunteers speaking Swedish.
@@tarpattituopponen7783 False, they were swedish speaking finns (mostly) in IR 61. Kurt West was one of them, and he wrote a book about the war, it's called "vi slogs och blödde" though I think it has been translated to finnish too. Really good book!
@@tarpattituopponen7783 Also, many of the scenes were from the movie "framom främsta linjen". A movie based of one of the swedish speaking finns' diaries.
No white uniforms?
SkyBlue 1988 Snow suits only for winter. Obviously.
eh, why would they use snow camo in June?
Snow camo in Summer?????
Вы че умнее придумать не могли Финны. Поимели мы Вас. И это факт. Хоть что снимайте
over 250 000 soviets die. Fuck them.
lintu25 🇷🇺🔪🇫🇮
@@powerrogue8410 veitsi, tuo mystinen asia ei ole ihan uusi meille suomalaisille.
Lapinleuku...
Mutta asiasta toiseen. Katso ne järkyttävät luvut mitä ryssiä jäi Suomen maahan. Ne on oikeasti todella rumat.
Talvisodassa pelkästään lähti puoli miljoonaa ryssää vs. 27 tuhatta suomalaista.
lintu25 🇷🇺🔪🇫🇮🇸🇪🇩🇰
Как же умудрились войну-то проиграть при таком героизме, а, соседи?
Фашизм не прошёл. :)
Финляндия не проиграла ни Зиму, ни Войну продолжения. Финляндия получила оборонительную победу в обеих этих войнах. Целью Советского Союза было захватить всю Финляндию и включить ее в состав СССР. Финская армия предотвратила это в тяжелых битвах и сумела остановить советское наступление, и Финляндия смогла заключить мирное соглашение с Советским Союзом по обеим этим войнам. И не было фашизма в Финляндии. Финляндия была демократической нацией на протяжении всей войны.
Брехня , кино и немцы финны снимают
Брехня ! Нееет брехня все " герои " СССР и их дешёвые фильмы - понты ! Ваши рассуждения это ркссуждения псих больного чел - не русское " правда" это не правда , русские сказки это реальность !
@@user-jr4vx9qe4j У меня собака по кличке "Альберт" и то лучше выражается и сильно обижается если её мой кот трогает.
@@user-bi1sq8fb3l а у моего соседа как раз свинья по имени Виктор Хуйчук ! Прежде чем писать русское говно надо иметь уваж опоненту и историческим фактам !
Unrealistic holywood
The Finns are lousy shots.
On the contrary. The highest scoring sniper in history was a Fin fighting in the Winter War, Simo Häyhä. He racked up over 700 kills, mostly using a Russian Moisin Nagant rifle with open sights. He didn't need a telescope. Scroll down to #1 listverse.com/2009/11/13/top-10-snipers-in-history/
@@dmenace9827 its called pystykorva m/39
Much better shots,then where your from
The ones doing the actual fighting weren't bad shots.😂Theirs a few documentaries on TH-cam about the Finn's kicking Russian ass... The Finn's eventually caved in though. Only after they inflicted devastating losses on the invading Russian force's...
Trust me... Don't get in the same forest as their snipers. World class shooters.
The Finns never had British tommy guns...
its not a tommygun, its called "Suomi konepistooli" fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomi-konepistooli
I have a counter argument the Soviets never used the sturmgeschütz 3 as seen at 2:41
@@erwinrommel1462 I don't think that's a 'counter' argument, that's just 'another' argument.
@@erwinrommel1462 Those sturmgeschutz III was finns, not soviet.
@Just Smashing We didn't need that toy because we had the Suomi SMG, 9 mm round, rate of fire about 10 shots per second. 70-shot drum magazine. Makes the Thompson look like a squirt gun in comparison.
In Finnish films Finns always win. Do you think it has something to do with the fact that these films were made by the Finns?
Or then its a false statement to begin with. Good luck finding a finnish film where Finland actually wins a war they historically lost (winter war or the continuation war).
The finns win in this specific movie due to the fact that this movie is about the single largest battle ever fought in the Nordic history, the battle of Tali-Ihantala, which Finland did indeed win. Finland does NOT win a WAR in this film.
@@rothary1641
The battle for the Mannerheim line was much bigger. And the Finns did not defeat the Soviet army, but only suspended its advance. Victory is when you force the enemy off the battlefield. The Soviet army advanced 10 to 12 kilometers in this battle.
@@user-xr4wu4rp2r "The battle for the Mannerheim line" is not exactly a thing. The fighting on the Mannerheim line consisted of numerous battles, all part of a big offensive, not a single big major battle. Here's a map of sort about the actions at the Mannerheim line in february-march 1940, individual battles (equivelant in concept of the battle of Tali-Ihantala during the 1944 offensive) being represented by the yellow explosion-like icons www.talvisota.fi/wp-content/uploads/wg1081-01.jpg
And yes, Finland did not defeat the Soviet army, nor did anyone claim such. Otherwise Finland would've pretty much won the war, which they absolutely did not. Yes, finland did however suspend its advance in the battle of Tali-Ihantala, which is literally the definition of a defensive victory.
If your goal is to stop the enemy from advancing, and the goal of the enemy is to push through the defences and keep on advancing, but their advance is indeed stopped, then it's safe to say the defenders won that specific battle.
Well about 60 thousand Fins chewed up about 300,000 Soviet troops. Soviet troops had such poor supply lines they nearly all starved to death. Don't mess with people that know how to use reindeer as supply-line pack animals and also use them for meat in their own territory. :)
Hitler's decision to invade Russia was in part because he saw how fucked up Soviet performance ever was since Stalin had stupidly executed all his senior officers because of his paranoia. .
@@rothary1641
We start doing nonsense because we are arguing about terms, not about the essence of the phenomenon.
I want to convey to you one simple idea. In 1940 and 1944 the Finnish army was not finally defeated and Finland was occupied, not because it was difficult for the Soviet army to do so. Finland, as an independent state, was more useful at that time.
Regarding the winter war, the Russians / Soviets are NOT interested in invading for the sake of invasion, Nazi style. They have to have a reason. In the beginning of the Winter war, the Soviets did not know that the karelians (who lived in a province called Karelia formerly owned by Finland and formerly by Sweden and formerly by Imperial russia) liked attending Russian Orthodox church services, and that many Karelians spoke a medieval form of Russian in the Kizhi islands. As the Soviets came in contact with Keralians, they came to know that many ethnic Karelians of Karelia considered themselves as Russian speaking peoples too. No need for Rambo style propaganda videos. Northern Karelia and west Karelia are smaller parts of karelia which stayed with Finland after ww2. The Romanov dynasty built their medieval capital city of saint Petersburg in the area near Karelia for a reason: Southern Karelia is Russian Karelia. Karelian language and their written Karelian in the past years are medieval Russian in Cyrillic script of the 13th century. During Swedish rule, some Karelian people switched to Swedish or Roman script. Other karelians stuck with Cyrillic script when ruled by Sweden. The people there are trying to revive Shakespearean era Russian language, called Karelian language, in Karelia for tourism purposes, even though they speak Russian at home. . The karelians spoke a medieval form of Russian and medieval form of Cyrillic Russian language, and did not mind if visiting people called them "Russians" by mistake. Difference between Karelian and modern Russian is like the difference between Shakespearean English and modern English of England. The people of Russian Karelia province used to write in a medieval form of the Russian language in the 13th century, as indicated by internet search. Near the Finnish border, the government in Saint Petersburg (pronounced Sain - Peter-Boorg in Russia) recently had a demo in about 1935 of new artillery pieces by a Bolshevik manufacturer of artillery gunnery that can hit targets 26 miles from the artillery gun pieces. reason 1) The Finnish soldiers wore military uniforms similar to German Nazi uniforms to a layman. This raised red flags among the people living in Saint Petersburg, The border that time was 26 miles from Saint Petersburg. So they asked the Finns to move the border further away than 26 miles from Saint Petersburg, which to some is preposterous. The Bolsheviks promised to give Finns other lands filled with frozen lakes and pine forests in other areas bordering the two countries if the Finns move further away than 26 miles from Saint Petersburg. Finns turned this offer down, if I remember right from having read about it a few years back. This meant war. In 1926 while under Finnland, the population of Karelia was 57.2 ethnic Russian, Karelians formed about 20 percent of the population probably, as per Wikipedia.com data. In 1939, the ethnic Russian population was 63 percent even while under Fin rule. Finland is a Scandinavian country of pine forests and frozen lakes with a small overall population of 4.7 million or so, similar to the population of greater Boston, and Finland has a modern big area the size of new England states and Pennsylvania state put together. The Karelians were for centuries attended Russian orthodox church. They claim that their current language larelian is a medieval form of Russian language of the medieval times. Russian orthodox church is a congregation of church goers independent of Rome since 988 AD, where the Sunday services and bible talks were similar to ancient Catholic church services, where churches no longer report to Rome since 988 AD. Karelia is now an area partly in Russia and partly in Finland with a native population of Karelian and Sami reindeer shepherds.Some birch bark document shows that the Karelians used medieval russian language in the first half of the 13th century. Written Karelian language is similar to medieval Russian texts of the 13th century and a few other centuries. Karlians are hard core Eastern Orthodox Christians while their language is an ancient form of Russian. If one copies old text of Karelian language and pastes it to Google search engine in "Translate", under from::: enter "Russian", translate to:: English. So, just try translating it to English. the modern English meaning of the Karelian text translates thus, "(in the 13th century, The food of the orthodox Christian Karelian priests should not eat cooked dead reindeer lying on the road killed possibly by someone else who left the scene of the crime." Modern meaning of same translated text == Avoid eating cooked meat of road kill animals." In other words to get a translation of karelian text, to English, just paste the medieval russian looking Karelian text to "Translate screen in Google search of "translate". Even after not considering the ethnic Russian majority in Karelia, the Karelian people there all seem to have Russian first names, like Eleina, Irina, Boris, and do not seem to mind at all being mistaken for being ethnic Russians. The Karelians like being called Russians by mistake, in fact. In other words, Karelia definitely should be in Russia, while west Karelia of Finland and North karelia of Funland should be in Finland, as they are after the winter war. Ethnic Ukrainians of Ukraine do not like being called Russians by mistake, even if many ethnic Ukrainians of Ukraine speak better spoken-Russian, & more fluently than some self styled Russians. An ethnic Karelian may reply to a Rambo type tourist, "I suppose you could say I am an ethnic Russian, Mr. Rambo the racist American tourist. My parents in my parent's village in Karelia taught me to speak a near extinct language called Karelian. We speak Russian at home when tourists are not around. I wear medieval European dresses just in a handful of villages in Kizhi, South Karelia, pilgrim style, like your Amish Christian villagers in your country."
This is so full of mistakes, misunderstandings and Russian propaganda BS.
It's too long to correct. Just ignore it.
nice troll
if the Finns surrendered to such an army of fools, then the humiliation of the Finns themselves))))
We did not surrender, we made a peace agreement
Again another Brain dead Pro soviets who dosent know anything about this conflict😂
What movie is this from?
Terry Passafiume The movie: Tali-Ihantala
@@assarykmentti eipä ole tää on etulinjan edessä elokuvasta
WHat is the name of this movie?
Etulinjan edessä (swedish: Framom främsta linjen)
english: Beyond the Front Line