People are misconceiving this remark from Chara. Everyone assumes that "Since when were you the one in control?" means that Chara has been pulling the strings since the beginning, and the player is not to blame. This simply is not true. In fact, Chara is MOCKING you when they say this. All throughout the playthrough you shift your blame to Chara, saying that "the kid is killing them, not me". But then, when it finally comes down to whether you erase the world, you are given your last chance to choose. Picking "Do Not" spites Chara, because suddenly you think it's your decision when all this time it's been "Chara". They mock you with the final sarcastic remark, "Since when were YOU the one in control?" They then proceed to destroy the world anyway, to show you what you did to the world.
Precisely, you chose this path, you knew nothing good would come of it. So why should you get a reward for your actions? It's your, The Player's, fault, and while in the Pacifist route, no one fits the role of villain, in the Genocide route you are the only one who can be responsible for the world's destruction. It can't be Chara, because you were the one who gave them the exp, and there are hints throughout the route pointing both towards their pessimism and numbness towards your actions (i.e. this plant is judging you for your sins, or, ... (when looking at the photo in new home)), and it can't be Frisk, because you are literally controlling them with your arrow keys. You grinded out kill counters, willingly betrayed who were likely your friends in another route, and ignored countless times you could have aborted. When you finally reach the end, Chara is well aware that nice interactions don't matter to you (and as numbed as they are, nice interactions still matter to them), and though they don't completely understand your motivations, they see no reason for your continued use of their world for some sick game (let us erase this (literally) pointless world). People try and blame Chara so they can pretend they still care about the characters of the game. You might care, but you obviously don't care enough to not kill them all for fun. To finish off, the act of them taking your soul I think can be tied to Flowey's speech. Flowey lost his soul, he is not able to care about anyone. Chara is tied to Frisk's soul and therefore yours, they do care about the world. I think them taking your soul is a way of both literally and metaphorically saying "I care about this world, but its clear you don't".
@@Delivery_Boy_Roy Though, there is ONE way to prove Chara wrong, wich is by doing genocide again. Chara says "Though... We are not the same, are we? You are tainted with a perverted sentimentality. I cannot understando those feeling anymore.", showing that Chara cannot understand your motivations. You already killrd everyone once, and it was hella hard, not talking about literally meeting with a demon after all that... Why would you do it again? The only reason for someone to do genocide twice is either masochim or bloodthirsty, wich meand you do have feelings about this world, but they're either wanting to put yourself through hardships or wanting to kill everyone again, and both those desires can be called "perverted sentimentality".
@@XxFr3dZe4rxX he destroys it in the pacifist route, in this route (well geno routes in general), the button just isn’t there, which i guess kinda implies that there’s truly no going back
It's weird... because this choice is made by the player who has all the control throughout the game except a couple of places where specifically Chara hijacks our control like when Frisk moves towards Sans without any input, when we pulverize Flowey and this choice that isn't a choice because it just ends the same way either option. The only way this would work is that Chara is specifically mocking Frisk but that wouldn't make sense since it isn't Frisk who was given the choice. *SPOILERS FOR DELTARUNE* This is also interesting since Deltarune is all about the lack of choice and that it only has one ending leading me to believe that it really was Chara who hijacked the character creator in the beginning.
For all those who blame Chara, let me say this, YOU CHOSE THIS ROUTE, and you knew nothing good would come of it. So why should you get a reward for your actions? It's your, The Player's, fault, and while in the Pacifist route, no one fits the role of villain, in the Genocide route you are the only one who can be responsible for the world's destruction. It can't be Chara, because you were the one who gave them the exp, and there are hints throughout the route pointing both towards their pessimism and numbness towards your actions (i.e. this plant is judging you for your sins, or, ... (when looking at the photo in new home)), and it can't be Frisk, because you are literally controlling them with your arrow keys. You grinded out kill counters, willingly betrayed who were likely your friends in another route, and ignored countless times you could have aborted. When you finally reach the end, Chara is well aware that nice interactions don't matter to you (and as numbed as they are, nice interactions still matter to them), and though they don't completely understand your motivations, they see no reason for your continued use of their world for some sick game (let us erase this (literally) pointless world). People try and blame Chara so they can pretend they still care about the characters of the game. You might care, but you obviously don't care enough to not kill them all for fun. To finish off, the act of them taking your soul I think can be tied to Flowey's speech. Flowey lost his soul, he is not able to care about anyone. Chara is tied to Frisk's soul and therefore yours, they do care about the world. I think them taking your soul is a way of both literally and metaphorically saying "I care about this world, but its clear you don't".
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People are misconceiving this remark from Chara. Everyone assumes that "Since when were you the one in control?" means that Chara has been pulling the strings since the beginning, and the player is not to blame. This simply is not true. In fact, Chara is MOCKING you when they say this. All throughout the playthrough you shift your blame to Chara, saying that "the kid is killing them, not me". But then, when it finally comes down to whether you erase the world, you are given your last chance to choose. Picking "Do Not" spites Chara, because suddenly you think it's your decision when all this time it's been "Chara". They mock you with the final sarcastic remark, "Since when were YOU the one in control?"
They then proceed to destroy the world anyway, to show you what you did to the world.
Chara defender cope
Precisely, you chose this path, you knew nothing good would come of it. So why should you get a reward for your actions? It's your, The Player's, fault, and while in the Pacifist route, no one fits the role of villain, in the Genocide route you are the only one who can be responsible for the world's destruction. It can't be Chara, because you were the one who gave them the exp, and there are hints throughout the route pointing both towards their pessimism and numbness towards your actions (i.e. this plant is judging you for your sins, or, ... (when looking at the photo in new home)), and it can't be Frisk, because you are literally controlling them with your arrow keys. You grinded out kill counters, willingly betrayed who were likely your friends in another route, and ignored countless times you could have aborted. When you finally reach the end, Chara is well aware that nice interactions don't matter to you (and as numbed as they are, nice interactions still matter to them), and though they don't completely understand your motivations, they see no reason for your continued use of their world for some sick game (let us erase this (literally) pointless world). People try and blame Chara so they can pretend they still care about the characters of the game. You might care, but you obviously don't care enough to not kill them all for fun. To finish off, the act of them taking your soul I think can be tied to Flowey's speech. Flowey lost his soul, he is not able to care about anyone. Chara is tied to Frisk's soul and therefore yours, they do care about the world. I think them taking your soul is a way of both literally and metaphorically saying "I care about this world, but its clear you don't".
@@Delivery_Boy_Roy Though, there is ONE way to prove Chara wrong, wich is by doing genocide again. Chara says "Though... We are not the same, are we? You are tainted with a perverted sentimentality. I cannot understando those feeling anymore.", showing that Chara cannot understand your motivations. You already killrd everyone once, and it was hella hard, not talking about literally meeting with a demon after all that... Why would you do it again? The only reason for someone to do genocide twice is either masochim or bloodthirsty, wich meand you do have feelings about this world, but they're either wanting to put yourself through hardships or wanting to kill everyone again, and both those desires can be called "perverted sentimentality".
Innocence and paradise lost in pride, will I betray the world or let the world betray me?
Since the moment I installed the game
Underrated comment prob because everyone doesn't get it lol
Chara: This isn’t about the game
"You must have misunderstood."
*"SINCE WHEN WERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL?"*
Asgore in pacifist and neutral: tries to kill frisk
Asgore in genocide: cup of tea
Really is he that stupid to not try to defend himself
Kasumi Yoshizawa has murdered the entirety of the underground
Despite being dead herself
Chara: SINCE WHEN WERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL?
Switch players:
Joy on drift?
@@landonbrown3400 Exactly!
I’m just now noticing the Mercy button isn’t there when you kill Asgore
He destroys it at the start of the fight
@@XxFr3dZe4rxX he destroys it in the pacifist route, in this route (well geno routes in general), the button just isn’t there, which i guess kinda implies that there’s truly no going back
@@realsimplyeli oh ok
"since when ere you the one in control"
the X button at the top right corner:
3:46 "EVERYWHERE YOU WILL DIE. You, your family, everyone will die... over and over, mountains of broken bodies beneath the wheel."
Monika is Chara. Confirmed.
Since when were you -the one in control- under the impression
- Aizen, when he takes little girl's body
It's weird... because this choice is made by the player who has all the control throughout the game except a couple of places where specifically Chara hijacks our control like when Frisk moves towards Sans without any input, when we pulverize Flowey and this choice that isn't a choice because it just ends the same way either option. The only way this would work is that Chara is specifically mocking Frisk but that wouldn't make sense since it isn't Frisk who was given the choice.
*SPOILERS FOR DELTARUNE*
This is also interesting since Deltarune is all about the lack of choice and that it only has one ending leading me to believe that it really was Chara who hijacked the character creator in the beginning.
i like to think that chara was in control right affter the ruins because you start to see more changes affter you kill toriel
I got this ending and now I cant play undertale anymore and im sad
Go on the undertale wiki for Genocide run. Go to "Post Genocide Run". It'll explain.
For all those who blame Chara, let me say this, YOU CHOSE THIS ROUTE, and you knew nothing good would come of it. So why should you get a reward for your actions? It's your, The Player's, fault, and while in the Pacifist route, no one fits the role of villain, in the Genocide route you are the only one who can be responsible for the world's destruction. It can't be Chara, because you were the one who gave them the exp, and there are hints throughout the route pointing both towards their pessimism and numbness towards your actions (i.e. this plant is judging you for your sins, or, ... (when looking at the photo in new home)), and it can't be Frisk, because you are literally controlling them with your arrow keys. You grinded out kill counters, willingly betrayed who were likely your friends in another route, and ignored countless times you could have aborted. When you finally reach the end, Chara is well aware that nice interactions don't matter to you (and as numbed as they are, nice interactions still matter to them), and though they don't completely understand your motivations, they see no reason for your continued use of their world for some sick game (let us erase this (literally) pointless world). People try and blame Chara so they can pretend they still care about the characters of the game. You might care, but you obviously don't care enough to not kill them all for fun. To finish off, the act of them taking your soul I think can be tied to Flowey's speech. Flowey lost his soul, he is not able to care about anyone. Chara is tied to Frisk's soul and therefore yours, they do care about the world. I think them taking your soul is a way of both literally and metaphorically saying "I care about this world, but its clear you don't".
What happens when you hit erase?
He/she just gonna kill you. No Jumpscare
Thank you for telling me I’ve been waiting for 1 year lol
wow, doesn't ANYONE like "but nobody came.." music?
I think another thing about chara is that there is no sound when they speak.
Really spooky. 0___0
All that and you didn't even include the spoops
So when I recorded this year's ago, It didn't capture the ending and I didn't want to sit there on a black screen then
you cheated to get to this room avoiding throne room?
+Caustic Ascarite Curious to see if the regular fight would occur with Asgore if bypassed the Throne Room. Guess not.
i' confused, you misunderstood, *SENCE WHEN WHERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL?*
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Genocide
i dislike cause there not the screamer