Honestly, the brand name "dragun" could have been used to make real FUN makeup, when the purple egg dropped i was expecting it to be cool iridescent fantasy esque eye palette/lip kit/liners, but noooo😭😭 it was orange color corrector and plain ass powders. I get that she was trying to be different (or maybe playing safe bcs eye palette/lipstick is such a saturated market with plenty of competitors) but her launch rly fell flat. Shows that sometimes it is necessary to go in with a bang😬
Sure but that wasn’t her aesthetic or brand really to do any colors other than neutrals/earth tones. But I do agree that she should’ve dropped something new and exciting.
Yes! I remember ”everyone” talked about Kylie’s lip kits and Jeffrey Star’s highlighters (wasn’t there a black highlighter?). But then there was a lot of drama and nobody cared. I remember a company called Fyrrinae (I think) that made amazing loose pigments. They were really hyped in the beauty community in Sweden in 2010-ish. I think the brand was American, though. Don’t know if they still are around. Still have a lot of the pigments!
I think that maybe revolution? I am 22 now and would spend all my allowance on their stuff, watch reviews etc in my teens. Now i dont see them talked about for anything good 😂. It could be my style of makeup has changed, and i wear a lot less now but they only copy other brands, there is now cult product really that they 'invented'. There foundations and concealers are good but all there other products are hits and misses. They also have a million sub brands. Likewise their licenced collections are not good quality if compared to other brands. They tried to be the british colour pop but failed. Colour pop do do the trendy stuff but their formula allows them to do it. Rev. just are always a step behind, being sheep and making poor copies in terrible formula. I would say maybe the desinger fashion brands doing makeup other than dior, I dont see them hyped, lastly MAC is in the grave now and is only talked about when a celeb makeup artist talks about products they used in a film or on a red carpet.
@@mystic_mimi21Im with you on the makeup revolution stuff but MAC. Yes, most creators use new up and coming brands in videos but that's their job. A lot of people have MAC in their collection. It's a go-to brand for many beginners and longtime makeup users, especially in Europe!!! A lot of poc can only rely on MAC for shade range when Fenty and Sephora aren't available.
Nikita had the same problem i find many influencers run into when starting their own makeup brand: the product is built for themselves and sometimes for those who have skin like them (from tone to texture)
Nikita Dragun is a prime example of someone who was given celebrity status and a ton of money when then the TH-cam influencer era was in its prime and developed a sense of being ‘untouchable’. We’ve seen this story with so many influencers from her era and unfortunately so many people were given their 15mins of fame and a cash grab brand deal that didn’t deserve it and couldn’t deal with the responsibility that came with it. People like Nikita thrived off of spilling the tea and throwing shade until it was their tea being spilled. The influencers who are successful today in this over saturated sea of content are the ones who have stayed true to theirselves and morals and have played the long game to develop companies that makes sense for their brand and their values, which has often meant turning down huge amounts of money in return for the trust of their subscribers.
I'm really glad that we are trying to move away from drama being synonymous with beauty. People are finally focusing on product pricing and quality and what makeup is intended to do. It's about us feeling good and challenging our creativity and sense of self-expression. Robert, thank you for continuing to be a space that provides this.
@felinemoonchild I so think customers are also focusing on their skincare as well. So after all the drama consumers are focusing on self care and expression
I remember that one video of Nikita Dragun walking into a mall to their first product drop and like not a single soul in sight!! 😂😂😂 That was such a weird time in this online beauty community thing!
That’s not true, I was there and so were a lot others!!! She even had a second meet and greet the next day for the first 100 people who bought her pallet which I also attended!
Orange can also be used to correct eye circles on any skintone, especially if they're purple\blue! I'm pale AF but I have an orange corrector that works amazingly to cover my very evident eye circles.
Also wear spf! Common misconception in the black community is we don't need spf...sun damage because of no spf is literally why we have hyperpigmation scars
“You either really have to like eggs, or really have the need to color-correct.” Lol What a sentence! I think you succinctly stated why this launch failed right there.
It definitely sounded like a good premise in her brand launch video. I was definitely more interested than I was with the Jacklyn Hill one. But other than the color corrector, everything else sounds like it was bland. That color corrector sounded like the only thing that matched her motivation as stated in that video
I remember her dragun egg promo video. It was so weird for a makeup launch. She could have had a great brand if she stayed consistent and released more inclusive products.
@@girl.anachronism5639 to be fair everyone is a problematic human, only difference is that her “problematic behavior” was for all the world (well at least social media lol) to see.
The second I saw her partying with all the other airhead influencers in LA during the pandy, seemingly allergic to masks, there was zero chance I'd support the brand.
I gotta say as a trans woman this *was* the best color corrector for neutralizing the beard/mustache areas for my skin and cut my getting ready time in half. NARS became my go to when these were discontinued but uhhh…not great (tho I hear they’re revamping the formula). Tarte came out with one finally what was absolutely better than these or any I’ve ever used short of Kryolan. And I’ve pretty much used all of em.
I still remember when Nikita promoted the purple egg and said it was a mind blowing product but ended up just a colour corrector and compact powder. It was a let down. She could do so many things during that time but she did her best I guess.
I got a couple of lipsticks through Ipsy. They weren’t what they were promoted to be. I’m glad I didn’t pay full price. They weren’t horrible, but they weren’t great either.
I think my main issue with influencer brands and products is that they always feel so lacklustre. More of an easy money grab with a lack of quality cause they believe their following will buy anything they produce (which sadly sometimes is the case). Also do feel people are slowly losing interest in influencers and seeing them more as a scam due to the oversaturation in the market, at least in my circles.
As a woman who suffers from hirsutism, I'm all about some peach or orange color corrector!! I would love a video with tips from the trans community for this issue ❤️
Dragun Beauty was a cash-grab. Most influencer brands are but Dragun Beauty is the epitome of a cash-grab. She knew she had a ton of followers and she needed a way to monetize that. I am sue she made a ton of cash and has moved on. I don't know anything about her personal problems or whether she is in jail or not...
I have never tried Dragun Beauty but I’ve seen it while browsing Beauty Bay and I had no idea about the origins so thank you for sharing. I’m an MUA here in Australia and I feel like you have to think about so many things when choosing which products to stock in your kit - including what supporting certain brands (by buying them) might mean to your clients. I feel like it’s hard to avoid politics these days 😢
I've never heard of this brand at all. And decent makeup is so expensive here in Australia, hey. Btw, I hope you have a great day!! I'm going to sleep! Too late/early!! (4am.Sydney) 😴
Im not even gonna lie, I've seen makeup artists pull some J* products out of their kit before and it HIGHLY changes my opinion of the person. Robert's right - de-pot everything lol
I really appreciate the way you handled discussing trans makeup in this video given the controversy surrounding this particular TH-camr. I’m a trans woman and I’ve learned so much from your videos. You are a beautiful person!
I have tried Dragun Beauty! But that would be because around the fall of BoxyCharm, those color correctors were pushed every month - every. single. month. - as the hot product you absolutely needed to try. Never the orange, from what I recall, but the blue and lilac were always an option as a sort of "wait, before you check out, maybe throw this in... FLASH SALE!" item. I do not know how to use color correctors and am the color of a piece of notebook paper, so they didn't strike a cord for me. Instead, I bought a couple of her lip glosses, one clear and one clear with a sort of purple shift. They were great for the price point (I think two cost me $10), but a huge part of BoxyCharm's thing was showing the original retail value versus what you were going to pay. They were great for $5/each, but I can't imagine how I'd have felt if I'd paid something like $30/each. ...They were lip glosses.
Im glad the age of the influencers is trending out. While at the beginning it was cool because they were everyday people and more relatable as they were filming from home; they eventually turned into celebrities. Everything was done for money rather than passion alone. Then they turned into real celebrities, and subsequently the relatability was gone.
I used the color corrector, VERY DRY! As in, blend the second it touches the skin. I also met her irl, let’s just say not very nice. Love the series btw!
I hope Robert does a flop video on Kylie and her sister Kim and her cosmetic company too. I will never buy anything from them.🤢🤢 I wish they would go away.
I think I tried the green color corrector back when it first launched. Mom told me to test it on my arm first to see if I was allergic to anything in it (she has severe chemical allergies herself). After 10 minutes my arm started burning, washed off the color corrector, saw a red painful mark where the makeup had been, and had to use a pain relieving gel for 3 weeks.
The fact that I had no idea this brand existed and I was really into the beauty community back in 2019 says a whole lot about how niche and unimpressive it was
The only time I came across this brand was when it was in TJ Max-I didn’t buy anything of course, but this was an interesting trip down memory lane. Nikita really liked getting into drama instead of taking care of her brand-it had potential to be halfway decent. I know she also had mental health issues with bipolar disorder so I hope she’s getting help and taking care of herself (and hopefully not getting into any more drama).
Would love to hear your opinions on Anastasia Beverly Hills, when Modern Renaissance was the only pallet anyone used, to the "NORVINA" era and their recent rebrand.
I couldn't support a dragun beauty as for the owner and the products were just god awful. Claire's had way cuter packaging. Thank you Robert for this wonderful video! Love to see this series!! 🎉❤
Would be so cool to see a video on doing makeup specifically for trans/nb folks! Talking about how to make someone look more 'masculine' or 'feminine' with makeup and how to cover up beard shadow or those sorts of things
I am just commenting on this to boost it a little because yes, even though it may not appeal to most of the demographic it is still a fantastic idea and should at least be considered.
100% agree! So many people who don't even identify as trans or NB still want to find ways to play with makeup to create new looks, or just simply adore the artsy side of makeup without the gender-linked assumptions or judgements. As a cis woman who has raised a trans child (she's an adult, but will ALWAYS be my kiddo! ❤️) and has little experience with makeup, I feel like finding ways to be creative and explore more about it generally comes with gender-related assumptions or restrictions. I like learning new things, but feel like appearing more androgynous cuts that entire makeup-related creative outlet out of the picture... and at the very least, out of my budget as well.
Honestly after seeing so many problematic youtubers releasing their brands and failing then giving up halfway, I'm. Always so proud of Patrick Star for staying away from Manny and all those problematic people and creating One Size. And sustaining it!! I have to give him credits for doing it right and for not getting involved in the era of TH-cam dramas
Lots of people seem to have a Dragun Beauty product in their arsenal (if they’re a makeup person), but no one’s actually purchased it. Beauty subscriptions toss them in here and there, and people get an item, but do they actually use them? Eh, jury’s out. I think I got one in a boxycharm a while back… never used it.
I’m so sorry about the audio! My mic was on mute!! 🥲 Also I have to add here after reading a few comments, Nikita Dragun is notorious for using race and blackfishing for shock value. It isn’t just the hair, it’s filters, makeup etc. you can look further into this yourself you will find ALOT. I should have featured it in this video, but she infamously tweeted - “What race is Nikita gonna be today?” And “Imagine being black? I could never”
Love your vibe! It's like listening to a knowledgeable friend work through their thoughts/feelings about products. Informative but not "rehearsed". After so many polished presentations it just feels more honest!
Yes! I second that! Today I played around with color correctors ( have blue blood under eyes. Lol) honestly, it turned out hidious. But! IM LEARNING! I did change my blush to higher up and that looked stunning. Watching Robert has taught me soooo much!
Robert can you *please* do one of these on skinup? I ordered the eye shadow (i mean come on, 'other green' just looks beautiful) but it never arrived, when i emailed asking for an update the reply was simply 'lol...hunni, please'
I just wanna say that I like your background Robert! I remember you asking us what we prefered, a simple backdrop or a background with objects and decorative stuff, and I really like the one you put together here :) I like the softness of the objects on the background, the soft colour coordination that doesn't distract from you, but somewhat add to you, you know what I mean? xD
Only Robert Welsh can throw such shade in such a polite, well-mannered way 😂❤ I wish more reviewers were like him, capable of standing their ground and saying they don't want to support someone with their money, whilst not denigrating the person they're speaking about.
I’m really glad I found your channel because I feel like it’s so refreshing. You just tell it how it is and you’re not really doing this for clout. You’re making videos for the love of makeup and to educate others of beauty techniques. In other words, thank you!
I'd heard of Nikita and Dragun Beauty only really in passing but certainly wasn't familiar with her or the brand at all so thank you Robert for the education! 💜 Also, I would love the influencer video you mentioned!
All I remember about this brand was the dragon egg and the name. I think a friend mentioned it to me specifically because of the name and the egg.. Dragons are my favorite and I was down to buy the dragon egg because -gosh darn it- that had to be some cool fantasy-inspired stuff in there right? But what was in there made me so glad I didn't buy it. I would have been so bummed and upset.
she could've made a great brand with products not only catering to Trans women needs, but cool fantasy as well. the packaging vs product didn't make sense but the packaging with a different product and the actual product without that specific packaging would've hit much better and I'm surprised a PR team didn't get that. I'm a tiny little small biz and I guess I was assuming big huge brands with lots of money spent on them would know that already
@@cheeling794 Yes! I remember when I found out what was in it being so confused and let down. Let down that the product didn't live up to the fantasy expectations, and confused because (since I didn't know anything about Nikita at that point) I could not fathom the connection/correlation of Dragon Beauty and the egg to what was on offer.
oh that's a good point I didn't think of too! people who didn't know her from TH-cam or at all, going in to the brand looking at a cool egg and seeing a color correcting face palette. I think if she went with a whimsical eyeshadow palette in that egg it would've done really well. and the color correcting palette catering to Trans women would have done amazing seperately!
I love watching your videos when I don’t feel well, you’re so calming that they don’t make my brain hurt, I’m not even big into make up but you make it all so interesting and enjoyable
Can I just say I love when you do the Wednesday Adams look. It's stunning 😍. I never understood the whole dragon bueaty thing because I believe makeup doesn't have just one set of people they target, unless it's for people who are much older, like covergirl has age rewind makeup, but still if you love makeup age, gender and race don't matter...at least to me and this is all my opinion really. Have an amazing day ☺️ ❤.
I love your brutal honesty! It’s extremely refreshing! Love you Robert 👏♥️ I would love a video about influencers who have fantastic products like Veive!!
Not too familiar with influencers, their brands and makeup in general..BUT your videos have been my constant companion as an at home mom for years now. Thank you!
The only thing I tried from Dragun beauty is a lip liner. It's pretty good. I didn't buy it directly from the brand though, I got it in a beauty subscription.
I got the same lip liner - BoxyCharm in 2021 or early 2022. I also have a black liquid lip which I got from a Boxy sale. It's decent, for what I paid for it, tho it doesn't last as long as it could but it isn't drying like ABH
Omg robert, I thought i was half imagining the bad cgi promo for the egg after u mentioned the launch video disappeared. But i actually did find the promo video in some 4 year old tea spill vid again just to make sure this wasn‘t just a vivid fever dream lol.
I really enjoyed this video- the pacing, the tone, and the research that went into it. I’d love to see a video about your thoughts on different influencer brands.
I think the need for a separate colour-correcting product is also kind of over. With concealers (and blurshes😜) coming in so many undertones nowadays making them a multi-use product, not to mention I feel like people are more open to trying new things/experimenting...
I’ve been watching your channel for a while now. You’ve always been honest about products and side eyed certain make up. I really appreciate your advice and honesty.
Thank you for making this! I had questions about this brand as I'd never seen them before but their stuff is suddenly on sale. Learn something new every day!
When I think of original products from a brand, Danessa Myricks Colorfix pigments are what come to my mind first. DM cosmetics are like art supplies. Dragun just seemed gimmicky. 😊
The gradient you created with so few colors will always be #goals. Nikita is still so young. I always feel like some people go on to learn from their mistakes, but I haven’t seen that yet so 🤷🏾♀️✌🏽 I saved my dollars for brands I believe in.
Great video, Robert. As always. I think that Jeffree Star cosmetics and Kylie Cosmetics are brands that no one talks about. I couldn't care less, but I don't see people talkning about them. I'm so bored with Charlotte Tilbury. It's just the same things over and over again. But I would like to talk about a brand that is one of the best but no one talks about... except Wayne Goss: Make up atelier Paris. MUAP is my favorite brand. Have you tried Makeup atelier Paris?
I think this helps because Manny hasn't tried to go for shock/something completely different and out there but what his fans expect for the things he does himself, he's stayed true to him and while he had a moment where he was heavily involved in drama because he may not have made the best friendship choices he did really well at separating him self from it
I loved this video idea… and would love to hear your idea on why some influencer brand doesn’t do as well as some others. Loved hearing your take on dragun beauty!
Thanks for including the clips about the whole black phishing phenomenon that we've seen with social media and her. It's very very bizarre to see features that ive been mocked for and unable to embrace in my youth to be mirrored on the people who caused that insecurity. It's what turned me off from the brand because my features arent a phase, and i cant just change myself whenever my features begin to inconvenience me.
I was going to comment this!! They had a huge moment with their brow products and highlighters especially but I don't see anybody talking about them anymore!
Second! I used to love the brow products and even had a couple palettes, but I think things changed with the brand when Norvina stepped up. Then within the last couple years, their pro-Putin stuff lost me.
Could you make a video off great makeup brands from Europe? I live in Belgium and the import fees of some brands ( colourpop beauty bay sigma,… are alle great but so expensive because off that )
This is the first time I hear of Nikita Dragun. I would love to see a video about why you think some influencer brands do well and others don't. Thanks for more great content Robert!
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Honestly, the brand name "dragun" could have been used to make real FUN makeup, when the purple egg dropped i was expecting it to be cool iridescent fantasy esque eye palette/lip kit/liners, but noooo😭😭 it was orange color corrector and plain ass powders. I get that she was trying to be different (or maybe playing safe bcs eye palette/lipstick is such a saturated market with plenty of competitors) but her launch rly fell flat. Shows that sometimes it is necessary to go in with a bang😬
Yea! Like the packaging was different but the makeup really wasn’t !
Yeah if she had gone down the indie market with multichrome and fun colours she would have made a fortune
@@lizstyla88 totally 💯
Sure but that wasn’t her aesthetic or brand really to do any colors other than neutrals/earth tones. But I do agree that she should’ve dropped something new and exciting.
the color corrector was aimed for a trans audience
Whenever I think of brands that have gone out of style I immediately think of Kylie Cosmetics and Jeffree Star Cosmetics
Both of them absolutely!!
Yes! I remember ”everyone” talked about Kylie’s lip kits and Jeffrey Star’s highlighters (wasn’t there a black highlighter?). But then there was a lot of drama and nobody cared. I remember a company called Fyrrinae (I think) that made amazing loose pigments. They were really hyped in the beauty community in Sweden in 2010-ish. I think the brand was American, though. Don’t know if they still are around. Still have a lot of the pigments!
I think that maybe revolution? I am 22 now and would spend all my allowance on their stuff, watch reviews etc in my teens. Now i dont see them talked about for anything good 😂. It could be my style of makeup has changed, and i wear a lot less now but they only copy other brands, there is now cult product really that they 'invented'. There foundations and concealers are good but all there other products are hits and misses. They also have a million sub brands. Likewise their licenced collections are not good quality if compared to other brands. They tried to be the british colour pop but failed. Colour pop do do the trendy stuff but their formula allows them to do it. Rev. just are always a step behind, being sheep and making poor copies in terrible formula. I would say maybe the desinger fashion brands doing makeup other than dior, I dont see them hyped, lastly MAC is in the grave now and is only talked about when a celeb makeup artist talks about products they used in a film or on a red carpet.
Yes 100%
@@mystic_mimi21Im with you on the makeup revolution stuff but MAC. Yes, most creators use new up and coming brands in videos but that's their job. A lot of people have MAC in their collection. It's a go-to brand for many beginners and longtime makeup users, especially in Europe!!! A lot of poc can only rely on MAC for shade range when Fenty and Sephora aren't available.
Nikita had the same problem i find many influencers run into when starting their own makeup brand: the product is built for themselves and sometimes for those who have skin like them (from tone to texture)
Nikita Dragun is a prime example of someone who was given celebrity status and a ton of money when then the TH-cam influencer era was in its prime and developed a sense of being ‘untouchable’. We’ve seen this story with so many influencers from her era and unfortunately so many people were given their 15mins of fame and a cash grab brand deal that didn’t deserve it and couldn’t deal with the responsibility that came with it. People like Nikita thrived off of spilling the tea and throwing shade until it was their tea being spilled. The influencers who are successful today in this over saturated sea of content are the ones who have stayed true to theirselves and morals and have played the long game to develop companies that makes sense for their brand and their values, which has often meant turning down huge amounts of money in return for the trust of their subscribers.
Can you say the same about Jeffrey Starr with the morals bit? He's still selling out
@@gryla5290you all still like Meredth though…😊
@@gryla5290he’s nowhere near his precovid status
I'm really glad that we are trying to move away from drama being synonymous with beauty. People are finally focusing on product pricing and quality and what makeup is intended to do. It's about us feeling good and challenging our creativity and sense of self-expression. Robert, thank you for continuing to be a space that provides this.
I absolutely agree! Thank you so much!
@@felinemoonchild Definitely, as it should be. Positivity, not pettiness.
@felinemoonchild I so think customers are also focusing on their skincare as well. So after all the drama consumers are focusing on self care and expression
@@Therapistlife13well said!
@@felinemoonchild It initially was about self expression, then money and fame became involved and tainted it.
I’m glad it’s going back to its roots.
I remember that one video of Nikita Dragun walking into a mall to their first product drop and like not a single soul in sight!! 😂😂😂 That was such a weird time in this online beauty community thing!
And that video where she's shown being rude to the security officer in the mall
She us so full of herself, a legend in her own mind and for Noone yo show up was fantastic
That’s not true, I was there and so were a lot others!!! She even had a second meet and greet the next day for the first 100 people who bought her pallet which I also attended!
@@christiandenizHow lame 😂
@@christiandenizthis is not something to be proud of lmao
As a dark skinned woman I must say that we use orange to correct our natural hyperpigmentation as well as hyperpigmentation caused by scars.
I'm a brown skinned indian girl and I use orange to correct my hyperpignentation too.
Orange can also be used to correct eye circles on any skintone, especially if they're purple\blue!
I'm pale AF but I have an orange corrector that works amazingly to cover my very evident eye circles.
@@DeadKraken Agree. Orange is a great shade to get rid of darker patches of skin.
what brand has a good color corrector? i wanna start experimenting with them
Also wear spf! Common misconception in the black community is we don't need spf...sun damage because of no spf is literally why we have hyperpigmation scars
“You either really have to like eggs, or really have the need to color-correct.” Lol What a sentence! I think you succinctly stated why this launch failed right there.
It definitely sounded like a good premise in her brand launch video. I was definitely more interested than I was with the Jacklyn Hill one. But other than the color corrector, everything else sounds like it was bland. That color corrector sounded like the only thing that matched her motivation as stated in that video
I remember her dragun egg promo video. It was so weird for a makeup launch. She could have had a great brand if she stayed consistent and released more inclusive products.
Yes I absolutely agree!
@@girl.anachronism5639 to be fair everyone is a problematic human, only difference is that her “problematic behavior” was for all the world (well at least social media lol) to see.
@@Nicole__Nataliaehhhh yes and no, she assaulted hotel staff and got arrested
If that was the animated one, I know the guy who did that for her. He probably did the face packaging too, it looks like his work.
It gave PS1 FMV cutscene tbh
The second I saw her partying with all the other airhead influencers in LA during the pandy, seemingly allergic to masks, there was zero chance I'd support the brand.
Yesss omg I forgot about that
100%%%%%%
How do you feel about it now, knowingly that the world was scamed into thinking that (mask) ???
The Pandy 😂😂😂
Pandy has me 💀
I gotta say as a trans woman this *was* the best color corrector for neutralizing the beard/mustache areas for my skin and cut my getting ready time in half. NARS became my go to when these were discontinued but uhhh…not great (tho I hear they’re revamping the formula). Tarte came out with one finally what was absolutely better than these or any I’ve ever used short of Kryolan. And I’ve pretty much used all of em.
I’ve heard that people like the kimchi chic color correctors and concealers, if you haven’t tried them yet
@@annapettit8045 Same! I've heard nothing but fantastic reviews from their brand.
I don't know if you have tried the Ben Nye color corrector for beard shadow yet, but that is what my trans wife uses, and she likes it.
I haven’t tried any Kim chi yet but best believe I’m gonna trust a queen with anything makeup related. They really know what’s gonna work the best.
I still remember when Nikita promoted the purple egg and said it was a mind blowing product but ended up just a colour corrector and compact powder. It was a let down. She could do so many things during that time but she did her best I guess.
Her products were not only market trend blind but also the quality didn't match the high prices.
Yes good point! 🖤
I got a couple of lipsticks through Ipsy. They weren’t what they were promoted to be. I’m glad I didn’t pay full price. They weren’t horrible, but they weren’t great either.
I honestly LOVED the brightening powders 😢
@@_bffr There are a LOT of brightening powders which outperform hers for a fraction of the price point
@@mirandanils5114 then send me the recommendations pls 😭
I think my main issue with influencer brands and products is that they always feel so lacklustre. More of an easy money grab with a lack of quality cause they believe their following will buy anything they produce (which sadly sometimes is the case). Also do feel people are slowly losing interest in influencers and seeing them more as a scam due to the oversaturation in the market, at least in my circles.
Yes I completely agree with you! 🖤
What about House Labs, Rare Beauty or Fenty beauty? Those are all "influencer" brands.
@@Kitti_Bcelebrities and influencers are different
@@Kitti_B There's a world of difference. No one considers Lady Gaga, Selena Gomez or Rihanna 'influencers'. lmao.
@@winterlover89 but you still consider Ariana Grande's brand a cash grab. People just go after the hype.
I really enjoy these little mini beauty history videos
Thank you! 🖤🖤
@@RobertWelshyes I second that! Please do more in the future 🥰
As a woman who suffers from hirsutism, I'm all about some peach or orange color corrector!! I would love a video with tips from the trans community for this issue ❤️
Dragun Beauty was a cash-grab. Most influencer brands are but Dragun Beauty is the epitome of a cash-grab. She knew she had a ton of followers and she needed a way to monetize that. I am sue she made a ton of cash and has moved on. I don't know anything about her personal problems or whether she is in jail or not...
I have never tried Dragun Beauty but I’ve seen it while browsing Beauty Bay and I had no idea about the origins so thank you for sharing. I’m an MUA here in Australia and I feel like you have to think about so many things when choosing which products to stock in your kit - including what supporting certain brands (by buying them) might mean to your clients. I feel like it’s hard to avoid politics these days 😢
Exactly! De-pot everything! 😂🖤
I've never heard of this brand at all. And decent makeup is so expensive here in Australia, hey.
Btw, I hope you have a great day!! I'm going to sleep! Too late/early!! (4am.Sydney) 😴
Im not even gonna lie, I've seen makeup artists pull some J* products out of their kit before and it HIGHLY changes my opinion of the person. Robert's right - de-pot everything lol
@@herefortheshrimp1469Or even better, don't buy from racists 😀
@@RobertWelsh lol that’s a great solution.
I really appreciate the way you handled discussing trans makeup in this video given the controversy surrounding this particular TH-camr. I’m a trans woman and I’ve learned so much from your videos. You are a beautiful person!
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He sure is! He is so sweet while also still honest.
I have tried Dragun Beauty! But that would be because around the fall of BoxyCharm, those color correctors were pushed every month - every. single. month. - as the hot product you absolutely needed to try. Never the orange, from what I recall, but the blue and lilac were always an option as a sort of "wait, before you check out, maybe throw this in... FLASH SALE!" item. I do not know how to use color correctors and am the color of a piece of notebook paper, so they didn't strike a cord for me.
Instead, I bought a couple of her lip glosses, one clear and one clear with a sort of purple shift. They were great for the price point (I think two cost me $10), but a huge part of BoxyCharm's thing was showing the original retail value versus what you were going to pay. They were great for $5/each, but I can't imagine how I'd have felt if I'd paid something like $30/each. ...They were lip glosses.
Wow! Almost at 1 million followers 🎉 Well-deserved 💜💜💜
Thank you! 🖤🖤
Very much agree
I can honestly say i don't know 1 person who has bought her makeup... not surprised at this outcome
No I don’t either!!
Im glad the age of the influencers is trending out. While at the beginning it was cool because they were everyday people and more relatable as they were filming from home; they eventually turned into celebrities. Everything was done for money rather than passion alone. Then they turned into real celebrities, and subsequently the relatability was gone.
I agree and they became really … arrogant I guess and abit money hungry!
I used the color corrector, VERY DRY! As in, blend the second it touches the skin. I also met her irl, let’s just say not very nice. Love the series btw!
I would love if you did a Kylie Cosmetics company flop video for your next video for your brands series!
Ok I can!! 🖤🖤🖤
I hope Robert does a flop video on Kylie and her sister Kim and her cosmetic company too.
I will never buy anything from them.🤢🤢
I wish they would go away.
@@dawnbonome9056ok you dont need to shit on them
@@RobertWelsh Omg Hi, thank you Robert! I love you! Have a great day!
How dare your microphone betray you like this, Robert! Lol😅
I knooooow!!
@@RobertWelsh It's fired. Very rude hahaha
Yes! It's most deffinitely not Roberts fault 😂
I think I tried the green color corrector back when it first launched. Mom told me to test it on my arm first to see if I was allergic to anything in it (she has severe chemical allergies herself). After 10 minutes my arm started burning, washed off the color corrector, saw a red painful mark where the makeup had been, and had to use a pain relieving gel for 3 weeks.
So you were allergic, thank god you didn't put it on your face
The fact that I had no idea this brand existed and I was really into the beauty community back in 2019 says a whole lot about how niche and unimpressive it was
The only time I came across this brand was when it was in TJ Max-I didn’t buy anything of course, but this was an interesting trip down memory lane. Nikita really liked getting into drama instead of taking care of her brand-it had potential to be halfway decent. I know she also had mental health issues with bipolar disorder so I hope she’s getting help and taking care of herself (and hopefully not getting into any more drama).
Would love to hear your opinions on Anastasia Beverly Hills, when Modern Renaissance was the only pallet anyone used, to the "NORVINA" era and their recent rebrand.
Yessss omg I have opinions 👀
I couldn't support a dragun beauty as for the owner and the products were just god awful. Claire's had way cuter packaging. Thank you Robert for this wonderful video! Love to see this series!! 🎉❤
They did have cuter packaging! 😂
I actually heard the powder was really good from multiple people 🤷♀️
@@Nicole__Nataliaseems as though you’re lowkey a fan. Ive seen you all over this comment section halfheartedly defending her
Would be so cool to see a video on doing makeup specifically for trans/nb folks! Talking about how to make someone look more 'masculine' or 'feminine' with makeup and how to cover up beard shadow or those sorts of things
I am just commenting on this to boost it a little because yes, even though it may not appeal to most of the demographic it is still a fantastic idea and should at least be considered.
100% agree! So many people who don't even identify as trans or NB still want to find ways to play with makeup to create new looks, or just simply adore the artsy side of makeup without the gender-linked assumptions or judgements. As a cis woman who has raised a trans child (she's an adult, but will ALWAYS be my kiddo! ❤️) and has little experience with makeup, I feel like finding ways to be creative and explore more about it generally comes with gender-related assumptions or restrictions. I like learning new things, but feel like appearing more androgynous cuts that entire makeup-related creative outlet out of the picture... and at the very least, out of my budget as well.
I think that would be a good video. Also interested in color correction for women with PCOS who can struggle similarly with a 5 o’clock shadow.
Boosting this! I saw something similar on TikTok, but I KNOW Robert would be far more informational
Glad you made this a series! Have a lovely day! 😊
Thank you Melissa!
I love this series!❤
Thank you! 🖤🖤🖤
Honestly after seeing so many problematic youtubers releasing their brands and failing then giving up halfway, I'm. Always so proud of Patrick Star for staying away from Manny and all those problematic people and creating One Size. And sustaining it!! I have to give him credits for doing it right and for not getting involved in the era of TH-cam dramas
Not a brand specifically, but any one that goes way overboard with sexual innuendo. I'm no prude, but banana fetish, glow job, etc. Such a turn off!
Lots of people seem to have a Dragun Beauty product in their arsenal (if they’re a makeup person), but no one’s actually purchased it. Beauty subscriptions toss them in here and there, and people get an item, but do they actually use them? Eh, jury’s out. I think I got one in a boxycharm a while back… never used it.
Oh yes that’s such a good point! 🖤🖤
I’m so sorry about the audio! My mic was on mute!! 🥲
Also I have to add here after reading a few comments,
Nikita Dragun is notorious for using race and blackfishing for shock value. It isn’t just the hair, it’s filters, makeup etc. you can look further into this yourself you will find ALOT. I should have featured it in this video, but she infamously tweeted -
“What race is Nikita gonna be today?”
And
“Imagine being black? I could never”
Your mic was feeling random and quirky today✨️
😂😂😂
Still is great to see another vídeo from you anyway.
Hey, at least you don't have to film it again 😂 🖤
@@serenitynowffsexactly 😂
Love your vibe! It's like listening to a knowledgeable friend work through their thoughts/feelings about products. Informative but not "rehearsed". After so many polished presentations it just feels more honest!
I feel as tho a lot of brands didn’t survive the makeup boom. Kylie Cosmetics sticks out to me as one brand that fizzled out.
thankfully. I hated the way it made it seem like your own lips aren't good enough, this miracle product can make your lips like kylies😵💫
Your makeup knowledge has really taught me so much! Thank you 💜 I always look forward to your channel.
Thank you so much Kimberly! 🖤
Yes! I second that! Today I played around with color correctors ( have blue blood under eyes. Lol) honestly, it turned out hidious. But! IM LEARNING! I did change my blush to higher up and that looked stunning. Watching Robert has taught me soooo much!
Robert can you *please* do one of these on skinup? I ordered the eye shadow (i mean come on, 'other green' just looks beautiful) but it never arrived, when i emailed asking for an update the reply was simply 'lol...hunni, please'
Wow! WOOOOOW! No patience ! It’s only been a few years! We are so spoiled with “ next day delivery” and “3-4 day delivery” and “7-10 month delivery”
I wish I could like this twice 😅
I just wanna say that I like your background Robert! I remember you asking us what we prefered, a simple backdrop or a background with objects and decorative stuff, and I really like the one you put together here :)
I like the softness of the objects on the background, the soft colour coordination that doesn't distract from you, but somewhat add to you, you know what I mean? xD
Oh boy... so many issues. So many problems. Tossing money and calling yourself down to Earth.. hmm. Thank you for making this series.
Only Robert Welsh can throw such shade in such a polite, well-mannered way 😂❤ I wish more reviewers were like him, capable of standing their ground and saying they don't want to support someone with their money, whilst not denigrating the person they're speaking about.
Kiley Cosmetics is one of those makeup brands. In 2014 it was a CRAZY brand and now I see it as Ross for like $2.
I really liked that dragon beauty eyeliner
It was very smooth application
I’m really glad I found your channel because I feel like it’s so refreshing. You just tell it how it is and you’re not really doing this for clout. You’re making videos for the love of makeup and to educate others of beauty techniques. In other words, thank you!
Robert even with a micro as is enemy lol still is the most funny person ever. 😂👑
Yay! Love a good longer form video deep dive from you. ❤
Thank you! I enjoy making them! 🖤
I'm enjoying the return of decor and do-dads to your background! I like how it shows off your personality and style.
So longer videos please! In hyped to hear the whole essay!!
I'd heard of Nikita and Dragun Beauty only really in passing but certainly wasn't familiar with her or the brand at all so thank you Robert for the education! 💜 Also, I would love the influencer video you mentioned!
All I remember about this brand was the dragon egg and the name. I think a friend mentioned it to me specifically because of the name and the egg.. Dragons are my favorite and I was down to buy the dragon egg because -gosh darn it- that had to be some cool fantasy-inspired stuff in there right? But what was in there made me so glad I didn't buy it. I would have been so bummed and upset.
I wish I could think of the dragon egg first. I always think of the creepy vacuform face palette. Ughhhhhh
she could've made a great brand with products not only catering to Trans women needs, but cool fantasy as well. the packaging vs product didn't make sense but the packaging with a different product and the actual product without that specific packaging would've hit much better and I'm surprised a PR team didn't get that. I'm a tiny little small biz and I guess I was assuming big huge brands with lots of money spent on them would know that already
@@cheeling794 Yes! I remember when I found out what was in it being so confused and let down. Let down that the product didn't live up to the fantasy expectations, and confused because (since I didn't know anything about Nikita at that point) I could not fathom the connection/correlation of Dragon Beauty and the egg to what was on offer.
oh that's a good point I didn't think of too! people who didn't know her from TH-cam or at all, going in to the brand looking at a cool egg and seeing a color correcting face palette. I think if she went with a whimsical eyeshadow palette in that egg it would've done really well. and the color correcting palette catering to Trans women would have done amazing seperately!
@joanar8824 and yeah when I saw what was in the egg I didn't buy it either lol.
I love watching your videos when I don’t feel well, you’re so calming that they don’t make my brain hurt, I’m not even big into make up but you make it all so interesting and enjoyable
Can I just say I love when you do the Wednesday Adams look. It's stunning 😍. I never understood the whole dragon bueaty thing because I believe makeup doesn't have just one set of people they target, unless it's for people who are much older, like covergirl has age rewind makeup, but still if you love makeup age, gender and race don't matter...at least to me and this is all my opinion really. Have an amazing day ☺️ ❤.
I love your brutal honesty! It’s extremely refreshing! Love you Robert 👏♥️ I would love a video about influencers who have fantastic products like Veive!!
Thank you so so much! Yessss love that brand! 🖤
@@RobertWelsh ♥️♥️♥️
I love these videos! Thx for covering lesser-known brands
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Thank you so much! 🖤🖤
I absolutely love this series!! Perfect during getting ready
Not too familiar with influencers, their brands and makeup in general..BUT your videos have been my constant companion as an at home mom for years now. Thank you!
The only thing I tried from Dragun beauty is a lip liner. It's pretty good. I didn't buy it directly from the brand though, I got it in a beauty subscription.
Oh yes a lot of people are saying they have only tried the brand because it was sent in beauty box’s!
I got the same lip liner - BoxyCharm in 2021 or early 2022. I also have a black liquid lip which I got from a Boxy sale. It's decent, for what I paid for it, tho it doesn't last as long as it could but it isn't drying like ABH
More of this please!🖤🖤
More comming! 🖤🖤🖤
❤❤❤ this new content category!
Wow. Almost 1 million followers... 🎉🎉🎉 hugs from Italy. All that you have is well diserved. ❤❤❤❤
You had me at dusty and crusty 😂❤
😂😂😂😂😂… it was pretty dusty 👀
Well, that's that. Not buying influencer products until you drop some, Robert.
😂😂😂 thank you!!! 🖤🖤🖤
I am loving this video essay format! You're great at storytelling.
Omg robert, I thought i was half imagining the bad cgi promo for the egg after u mentioned the launch video disappeared. But i actually did find the promo video in some 4 year old tea spill vid again just to make sure this wasn‘t just a vivid fever dream lol.
Love ❤ your genuine approach to everything!!!! Thank you 😊
Thank you! 🖤🖤
This is why we need you to come out with makeup haha😂 we know we can always count on you 😝🥰
I really enjoyed this video- the pacing, the tone, and the research that went into it. I’d love to see a video about your thoughts on different influencer brands.
I really like these type of videos because my knowledge of business is very limited and I like learning from case studies.
This is a great series! I honestly forgot about this brand. 😅
I think the need for a separate colour-correcting product is also kind of over. With concealers (and blurshes😜) coming in so many undertones nowadays making them a multi-use product, not to mention I feel like people are more open to trying new things/experimenting...
I’ve been watching your channel for a while now. You’ve always been honest about products and side eyed certain make up. I really appreciate your advice and honesty.
I love this series of videos your doing but can I just say your skin looked stunning in this video! ❤
Thank you for making this! I had questions about this brand as I'd never seen them before but their stuff is suddenly on sale. Learn something new every day!
When I think of original products from a brand, Danessa Myricks Colorfix pigments are what come to my mind first. DM cosmetics are like art supplies. Dragun just seemed gimmicky. 😊
I love the new background! 🖤💜🖤💜🖤💜
The gradient you created with so few colors will always be #goals. Nikita is still so young. I always feel like some people go on to learn from their mistakes, but I haven’t seen that yet so 🤷🏾♀️✌🏽 I saved my dollars for brands I believe in.
I never heard of this one. I stopped buying beauty influence makeup 2 years ago. The drama was too much.
That’s understandable!
Great video, Robert. As always. I think that Jeffree Star cosmetics and Kylie Cosmetics are brands that no one talks about. I couldn't care less, but I don't see people talkning about them. I'm so bored with Charlotte Tilbury. It's just the same things over and over again.
But I would like to talk about a brand that is one of the best but no one talks about... except Wayne Goss: Make up atelier Paris. MUAP is my favorite brand. Have you tried Makeup atelier Paris?
I haven’t tried them but have heard about them I think! I will try! 🖤🖤🖤🖤
I love this kind of discussion GRWM video! Thank you Robert!! 💜💜
UGH THIS SERIES I LOVE
Its hard to believe in influencers anymore so buying their products is hard pass for me now
I feel like lunar beauty has really done well. Good products...fairly priced. Solid brand in my opinion...especially coming from an influencer
I think this helps because Manny hasn't tried to go for shock/something completely different and out there but what his fans expect for the things he does himself, he's stayed true to him and while he had a moment where he was heavily involved in drama because he may not have made the best friendship choices he did really well at separating him self from it
@@xxkittyxxkatxx-ts8zs the themes and design were on point with his interests and as an anime watcher i'd have loved to buy his stuff
I loved this video idea… and would love to hear your idea on why some influencer brand doesn’t do as well as some others. Loved hearing your take on dragun beauty!
Would love to see the video about your opinions on influencer brands!💜
Thanks for including the clips about the whole black phishing phenomenon that we've seen with social media and her. It's very very bizarre to see features that ive been mocked for and unable to embrace in my youth to be mirrored on the people who caused that insecurity. It's what turned me off from the brand because my features arent a phase, and i cant just change myself whenever my features begin to inconvenience me.
I feel Anastasia has fallen out of favor. Would like to see a video on their downfall. 😊
Ohhhh yes!!
I was going to comment this!! They had a huge moment with their brow products and highlighters especially but I don't see anybody talking about them anymore!
Second! I used to love the brow products and even had a couple palettes, but I think things changed with the brand when Norvina stepped up. Then within the last couple years, their pro-Putin stuff lost me.
Wow, that makeup look is absolutely stunning on you! The bold eyes go so well with the beard and the outfit this time. Just gorgeous.
I'd like for u to do a vid on your opinions of influencer brands! ♡
I was always shocked by her makeup brand because who in their right mind would purchase her products!
Could you make a video off great makeup brands from Europe? I live in Belgium and the import fees of some brands ( colourpop beauty bay sigma,… are alle great but so expensive because off that )
This is the first time I hear of Nikita Dragun. I would love to see a video about why you think some influencer brands do well and others don't. Thanks for more great content Robert!
I would never know the tea without your videos like this. Thank you for enlightening me! ❤
I will say her eyeshadow formula was amazing. However, 50 bucks for 5 shades was completely outrageous.
You all had a good run! 🙃
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Robert what can I say... you are truly amazing and you look so well. I follow you're advise religiously because I'm happy as long as my skin looks as good as your's ❤❤❤