It’s so disheartening and sickening the way some can twist a narrative to suit their own dark purposes. I know this tactic has been going on forever but it still makes my brain hurt and crushes my heart. You three are hero’s in my book. Keep shining light in dark places so the cockroaches can’t hide! And please stay strong!
You should hear about “Ghost Security” crooked private intel that hacks and sets people up pretend to save kids but really destroying families and kids lives like Timmy, they probably know each other.
Public Confession: I was totally "Duped" by everything about the story narrative of Tim Ballard as well as supporting the film. But I blame no one but myself. Challenging my bias to see that he was not a Righteous Role Model the media so desperately needs. I was wrong. Unlike my friend who doesn't want to look at the evidence, because it may mean admitting she is wrong.
I love all the Timmy did what episodes! Thx for keeping us all updated & informed. Someone needs to call him out for his shit & you guys are doing an incredible job!
I love you three together! I watched Alyssa's video with you two, and now this! I'm a never Mormon, but I've lived my life in a small community in rural Nevada where the Mormon influence is pervasive. I found you all through Mormon Stories by way of Growing Up In Polygamy discussing Warren Jeffs. I enjoy the longer formats so I can plug my Bluetooth in and go on with my day. Thanks for the deep dives you all take, so many of us can take that information and research avenues many don't know or won't speak of.
The prohibition on playing cards originates at least as early as Joseph F. Smith (president 1901-18) following a long period in Utah following the coming of mining in the territory which led to many whorehouses (at least 20 in Provo in the 1920's for example), saloons and gambling dens. I think cards were effectively "evil" because of their association with these vices. Utah was a wild and crazy place until the decline of mining operations in the 1930's.
@ginafrancis4950 Ha! That is an interesting comment? Tell me, do you even know what money is? Cause what we have currently in our financial system is not money.
Alyssa said- money is the root of all evil- 1st Timothy 6:10- says it’s the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil. To put it another way- The LOVE OF wealth is the root of all evil. You do know what wealth means, right?
@ginafrancis4950 Let me help you out. What you use to transact is a debt note, not money. It is not wealth. It is debt. Real money, which is not commonly used, IS wealth. Loving wealth is not wrong. Wealth is produced by the efforts of those who develop the skills, talents, and abilities. It is produced by those who work to create it. Wealth is the physical manifestation of mankind's efforts to be productive, to know and learn truth, it is the physical manifestation of mankind's desire to live and sustain life. Are you attempting to claim that you should not value these virtues in your fellow man? Or are you attempting to claim that you should not value the consequences of your fellow man possessing these virtues? That is a little silly. An attempt to acquire a disdain for wealth, or maybe even a hate for it, is an attempt to value death.
Haha!!! I used to call it a coffee table just for laughs! My parents were from the Bay Area, and that was my excuse when needed 🤦♀️I must’ve always been a rebel
Hi Carah and Ryan, I stumbled across another podcast, called "The Opportunist Podcast: Tim Ballard". Of course it's not giving the tea like you guys, but have you heard about it? I think it's a 10 part series. I hear a collab calling. Seriously, thank you guys for covering this shiz from the beginning!
I love Alyssa‘s explanation of different brands of Mormonism. I tell people I’m a combination between Tara Westover & Heather Gay’s upbringing. That about sums it up 😂😭
29:15 when you talk about the idea of continuing revelation, and evangelicalism, there is a problem with this as well with the charismatic movement in evangelism (a large portion of which are very authoritarian/controlling and Trumpy- but this is bleeding over into all different denominations, kind of societal or social contagion, as Dr. Bandi Lee has talked about with regard to Trump and QAnon.) and we have been talking about it for a long time. I’m really glad you’re saying it out loud, from the point of view of somebody who was on the inside.
It’s fascinating to me that people who speak up about Tim Ballard’s egregious misbehavior are accused of wanting the church to fail and wanting the church to look bad…as if the sexual assault allegations don’t make the church look worse than literally anything else. I also recommend watching The Morbid Zoos video on The Sound of Freedom, she does an impressive analysis on his movie and the rhetoric surrounding its circumstances and creation!
I remember my mom telling me how I needed to go see the movie and then bragging about the pay it forward tickets, and now I’m asking her about what she thinks about Timmy now. She jumps to how it’s a conspiracy by the left to take him out because he talked about going into politics 😢
Playing cards was seen as "idleness", which was regarded as a "tool of the Devil". Probably 1960s, 1970s words from General Conference & Ensign magazines.
Edited! You could learn more by requesting her book at your local library! It's free for you, helps Alyssa and will help those who are seeking the truth behind Mormonism 😉
@bewitched3912 no problem. I was wondering if Carah did one, too. I really liked Carah on MS. What she is doing now is important. More people need to know about Ballard. I am a never mo sho has Christian fundamentalist relatives who loved him. When i told some about him, i don't think they believed me. I can see Trump appointing him to something, and they will be thrilled
In late 70s or early 80s my mom threw out the gambling game that came with our family Intellivision three times. We found it twice in the trash but not three times.
"Rather than do so, I would suffer (putting right thumb to left ear) my life (drawing the thumb across the throat to the right ear) to be taken" (then putting your hand to your side. (Same with the stomach symbolizing cutting your bowels out) --I went through in 1976 and that was how they did it until I think the late 80's or early 90's. --Also staying away from face cards was a "thing" in the late 50's the 60's and 70's (maybe longer) and there were all sorts of "roomers" that the devil was in them and could emanate in your house and even possess you.
@bewitched3912 I think we both hit the nail on the head! My question is- WHY are there so many delusional Mormons coming out of the woodwork lately? Not just crazy cult leaders- course cult leader JS started the whole thing but spousal killings and murder suicides of whole families. Therapist that think they are going to lead the 144! The mother and her brother who thought her son was the one mighty and strong and kidnapped him to Alaska to wait for Jesus. All these preppers. Never mind that fraud is rampant in Utah, porn use anti depressant use. Child abuse coverups. Amassing billions of dollars and not being honest about it! It’s all so profoundly disturbing and disgusting. Yet this is gods one true church!🤯 Talk about - by the fruits I shall know thee. The church is bearing witness to some pretty rotten fruits!
Yes Calvinism is when God chooses to save you by giving you faith through his grace and Calvinist believe that you can never fall out of salvation once God elects you Mormons believe that you can fall in and out of salvation
Thank you. 1. Since Jesus was on Earth, there has been good and moral Christians, regardless of whether their faith leaders and the actual became corrupted. 2. Less than 0.5% of the World are Mormons. Why has God neglected and excluded ordinary people who follow hrist.
Extremely short sided and naïve you all are! “The Church”….always “The Church” …..I went to hear Tim Ballard and the Holy Ghost gave me a stupor of thought IMMEDIATELY. THE TIME YOU TAKE YAPPING, I am turning you off to spend more time to learn from the spirit. RESIST NO EVIL. Why do you think you should be on a mission to enlighten us? Is there EGO here?
The other thought I want to share is that ALL of us are imperfect, learning HOW to listen. You poke at the prophets and their imperfect revelations or No revelation. Really? Yet all , ALL THE TWELVE SLEPT and didn’t realize who and what purpose of Chris’s teachings were now culminating and beginning. Such sadness that your pontificating truly misses the mark of what you and I need to learn. Submission and service of Christ’s perfect love. You are missing the mark😢
@@personofinterest8731 I have read everything the Holy Spirit guides me to read. The time I spend is to pray for Tim Ballard and serve where I am prompted. I only bumped into this site and started listening. I just couldn’t finish hearing it all. I wasted 25 minutes of my time. Study? I read and study for hours. But I strive the most to serve and get out to try and change my surroundings quietly for good and change.
Thank you for having me on your channel! You all are doing important work bringing all of this to light.
It’s so disheartening and sickening the way some can twist a narrative to suit their own dark purposes.
I know this tactic has been going on forever but it still makes my brain hurt and crushes my heart.
You three are hero’s in my book. Keep shining light in dark places so the cockroaches can’t hide! And please stay strong!
You should hear about “Ghost Security” crooked private intel that hacks and sets people up pretend to save kids but really destroying families and kids lives like Timmy, they probably know each other.
Public Confession:
I was totally "Duped" by everything about the story narrative of Tim Ballard as well as supporting the film.
But I blame no one but myself.
Challenging my bias to see that he was not a Righteous Role Model the media so desperately needs.
I was wrong.
Unlike my friend who doesn't want to look at the evidence, because it may mean admitting she is wrong.
I love all the Timmy did what episodes! Thx for keeping us all updated & informed. Someone needs to call him out for his shit & you guys are doing an incredible job!
I love you three together! I watched Alyssa's video with you two, and now this! I'm a never Mormon, but I've lived my life in a small community in rural Nevada where the Mormon influence is pervasive. I found you all through Mormon Stories by way of Growing Up In Polygamy discussing Warren Jeffs. I enjoy the longer formats so I can plug my Bluetooth in and go on with my day. Thanks for the deep dives you all take, so many of us can take that information and research avenues many don't know or won't speak of.
Exactly! The Bluetooth is God’s gift to the exmo 😅
When I was little, my mom said she was making a coffee cake. I freaked out😆
😱🤣🤣🤣
The prohibition on playing cards originates at least as early as Joseph F. Smith (president 1901-18) following a long period in Utah following the coming of mining in the territory which led to many whorehouses (at least 20 in Provo in the 1920's for example), saloons and gambling dens. I think cards were effectively "evil" because of their association with these vices. Utah was a wild and crazy place until the decline of mining operations in the 1930's.
🙋🏻♀️Not allowed EVER to use playing cards. Very bad. Chastisement. Sin. Evil. entire speech about why they are bad.
The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.
@ginafrancis4950 Ha! That is an interesting comment? Tell me, do you even know what money is? Cause what we have currently in our financial system is not money.
Alyssa said- money is the root of all evil-
1st Timothy 6:10- says it’s the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil.
To put it another way-
The LOVE OF wealth is the root of all evil.
You do know what wealth means, right?
@ginafrancis4950 Let me help you out. What you use to transact is a debt note, not money. It is not wealth. It is debt.
Real money, which is not commonly used, IS wealth. Loving wealth is not wrong. Wealth is produced by the efforts of those who develop the skills, talents, and abilities. It is produced by those who work to create it. Wealth is the physical manifestation of mankind's efforts to be productive, to know and learn truth, it is the physical manifestation of mankind's desire to live and sustain life.
Are you attempting to claim that you should not value these virtues in your fellow man? Or are you attempting to claim that you should not value the consequences of your fellow man possessing these virtues? That is a little silly.
An attempt to acquire a disdain for wealth, or maybe even a hate for it, is an attempt to value death.
@@ginafrancis4950 Logically, your scriptures are wrong. Not to mention....isn't the devil the root of all evil according to your doctrine?
I am agnostic. Ex Mormon. It’s just a saying why are you being so pedantic?
Great to see you! ❤
Glad to see you back and rested….this is a lot of work.
You three provide quality content and context about nefarious Mormon males. Thank you!
Welcome back 🎉
Haha!!! I used to call it a coffee table just for laughs! My parents were from the Bay Area, and that was my excuse when needed 🤦♀️I must’ve always been a rebel
Love this collaboration. ❤ that’s all 😊
Tim Ballard is pure mormon pride, continuing the great tradition of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young
😂
Also mormon arrogance😮
The dark nickname for BY I've heard is "Bring 'em young."
Was that supposed to be a compliment to him?!😂
Hi Carah and Ryan,
I stumbled across another podcast, called "The Opportunist Podcast: Tim Ballard".
Of course it's not giving the tea like you guys, but have you heard about it? I think it's a 10 part series. I hear a collab calling.
Seriously, thank you guys for covering this shiz from the beginning!
I remember that about Face Cards!! Must have been Kimball .. this was when I was a kid in the 70’s
Dream team!! Thank you 😊
I love Alyssa‘s explanation of different brands of Mormonism. I tell people I’m a combination between Tara Westover & Heather Gay’s upbringing. That about sums it up 😂😭
Awesome info on the Glenn Beck subject, go Alyssa, you’re a missionary!😃
The purity off was indeed one of your best episodes so far.😀
29:15 when you talk about the idea of continuing revelation, and evangelicalism, there is a problem with this as well with the charismatic movement in evangelism (a large portion of which are very authoritarian/controlling and Trumpy- but this is bleeding over into all different denominations, kind of societal or social contagion, as Dr. Bandi Lee has talked about with regard to Trump and QAnon.) and we have been talking about it for a long time. I’m really glad you’re saying it out loud, from the point of view of somebody who was on the inside.
Timmy...I learned more about his mishaps/alleged crimes. So sad!
It’s fascinating to me that people who speak up about Tim Ballard’s egregious misbehavior are accused of wanting the church to fail and wanting the church to look bad…as if the sexual assault allegations don’t make the church look worse than literally anything else. I also recommend watching The Morbid Zoos video on The Sound of Freedom, she does an impressive analysis on his movie and the rhetoric surrounding its circumstances and creation!
Thank you for this information!!!
I remember my mom telling me how I needed to go see the movie and then bragging about the pay it forward tickets, and now I’m asking her about what she thinks about Timmy now. She jumps to how it’s a conspiracy by the left to take him out because he talked about going into politics 😢
*crickets* --the most common response to bad news by TBMs. Definitely not self reflection
Great video. Thank you for bringing light to this issue. You guys are exposing one of the greatest frauds of all time
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Playing cards was seen as "idleness", which was regarded as a "tool of the Devil". Probably 1960s, 1970s words from General Conference & Ensign magazines.
Carah can you put your email somewhere. There’s more truth that opens up the closet of skeletons. Metaphorically and literally. Don’t give up yet!
Edited! You could learn more by requesting her book at your local library! It's free for you, helps Alyssa and will help those who are seeking the truth behind Mormonism 😉
@@bewitched3912Carah has a book? I know Alyssa does
@merricat3025 wait, my bad! Alyssa's book!!
@merricat3025 thank you for the correction!
@bewitched3912 no problem. I was wondering if Carah did one, too. I really liked Carah on MS. What she is doing now is important. More people need to know about Ballard. I am a never mo sho has Christian fundamentalist relatives who loved him. When i told some about him, i don't think they believed me. I can see Trump appointing him to something, and they will be thrilled
In late 70s or early 80s my mom threw out the gambling game that came with our family Intellivision three times. We found it twice in the trash but not three times.
Tim Ballard . . . Douglas Stringfellow: two to examples of "The Spirit" deceiving thousands of members
Funny how members always use the “persecution complex” on every goddamn issue!!!!
"Rather than do so, I would suffer (putting right thumb to left ear) my life (drawing the thumb across the throat to the right ear) to be taken" (then putting your hand to your side. (Same with the stomach symbolizing cutting your bowels out) --I went through in 1976 and that was how they did it until I think the late 80's or early 90's. --Also staying away from face cards was a "thing" in the late 50's the 60's and 70's (maybe longer) and there were all sorts of "roomers" that the devil was in them and could emanate in your house and even possess you.
I would have appreciated mote info about Tim!
Young Living has gone "woke". Lol
They put the other Ballard to sleep so the problem would be automatically distanced and they can claim ignorance and condem Tim
If Tim Ballard is the modern face of Mormonism, then I want nothing to do with it.
Isn't Chad Daybell the real Chosen One?
Lol, the one, true, chosen, leader, prophet, bla bla bla and doomsday is tucked in there somewhere 😅
In his own mind!
He is the one mighty and strong!
He will be leading the 144 thousand from prison🙄
@@ginafrancis4950you said it better than I 😊
@bewitched3912
I think we both hit the nail on the head!
My question is- WHY are there so many delusional Mormons coming out of the woodwork lately? Not just crazy cult leaders- course cult leader JS started the whole thing but spousal killings and murder suicides of whole families. Therapist that think they are going to lead the 144! The mother and her brother who thought her son was the one mighty and strong and kidnapped him to Alaska to wait for Jesus. All these preppers.
Never mind that fraud is rampant in Utah, porn use anti depressant use. Child abuse coverups. Amassing billions of dollars and not being honest about it! It’s all so profoundly disturbing and disgusting.
Yet this is gods one true church!🤯
Talk about - by the fruits I shall know thee.
The church is bearing witness to some pretty rotten fruits!
Daybell and Timmy are Bros
Names of vanity, recently we red Nietzches, he was really into Shakespeare, Ceasar with the Soul of Christ, who wants me is gearing Up for war
Yes, Mormon mother in-laws healthy living natural ways colloidal silver saved me. Old school Mormons.
The mormon church is based in Calvinism and the idea that wealth = righteousness.
Mormonism is the opposite of Calvinism where did you get that?
The business of the Latter Day crooks😂
Nah. Mormonism asserts free will/agency is pivotal to salvation. Calvinists believe God chooses who he wants to save.
@s.a.6082
Until they chastise you for Exercising that" free will"
That church is straight up BS!
Yes Calvinism is when God chooses to save you by giving you faith through his grace and Calvinist believe that you can never fall out of salvation once God elects you Mormons believe that you can fall in and out of salvation
Thank you.
1. Since Jesus was on Earth, there has been good and moral Christians, regardless of whether their faith leaders and the actual became corrupted.
2. Less than 0.5% of the World are Mormons. Why has God neglected and excluded ordinary people who follow hrist.
1:23 you really shouldn’t be saying that 😭
tim ballard 🤑
Timmy could slide right into Trump's cabinet.
Inspired by the prophet of ketamine I get it. It's all true.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Extremely short sided and naïve you all are! “The Church”….always “The Church” …..I went to hear Tim Ballard and the Holy Ghost gave me a stupor of thought IMMEDIATELY. THE TIME YOU TAKE YAPPING, I am turning you off to spend more time to learn from the spirit. RESIST NO EVIL. Why do you think you should be on a mission to enlighten us? Is there EGO here?
The other thought I want to share is that ALL of us are imperfect, learning HOW to listen. You poke at the prophets and their imperfect revelations or No revelation. Really? Yet all , ALL THE TWELVE SLEPT and didn’t realize who and what purpose of Chris’s teachings were now culminating and beginning. Such sadness that your pontificating truly misses the mark of what you and I need to learn. Submission and service of Christ’s perfect love. You are missing the mark😢
So you believe what you were taught, and you saw no reason to probe later history, documents, diaries etc? Erm, why are you here?
@@personofinterest8731 I have read everything the Holy Spirit guides me to read. The time I spend is to pray for Tim Ballard and serve where I am prompted. I only bumped into this site and started listening. I just couldn’t finish hearing it all. I wasted 25 minutes of my time. Study? I read and study for hours. But I strive the most to serve and get out to try and change my surroundings quietly for good and change.
Naw. Just spirit of discovery of deceit
Call it discernment....
@@ChristineMarshall-zo4hilds church missing the mark also