@@crankychris2 they upgraded the rear suspension then in ( I believe 2005) they switched to rack and pinion steering from recirculating ball if it were me personally, I would buy a 2008 to 2011
I bought my 2011 grand marquis in 2012 for 18,000 US with 35,000 km on it. It was a rental car and I bought it from the dealership. Leather seats and the whole works. Back then nobody wanted them. The dealership had five of them on their lot for months. Amazing how things have changed.
I bought a 2006 P71 with 169k and 405 idle hours last winter. Found it on GovDeals, paid 1600 for it. Same department owned it since new, Southern California, no rust. Paint is tired, but it has all the service records. I feel like I got a pretty good deal.
I am 60 years of age. Have been a professional driver, from cars to 18 wheelers, hundreds of thousands of miles. The CV, esp. a P71 is the best car ever.
In 2016 I bought a 2003 Crown Victoria LX with 88,000 miles for $3200.I put about another $2000 in repairs and maintenance into it shortly after. It now has 191000 miles but has been the best-used car i have ever bought. All it needed was routine maintenance and normal wear parts. I do live in NW PA, the rust is getting to it. still pretty solid, I plan to drive it as long as I can.
Just bought a 2000 grand marquis ls w 82k for $2000 in Georgia. Paints a little rough and the bumper is broken but inside is very clean w no rips or stains in the cloth seats. I’m stoked.
Got a 2004 Mercury Grand Marquis for 700 from a junkyard. Bought it in 2019. Put in an axle on the passenger side water pump paint is peeling., it has the spark plug issue. Got it with 185000 miles on it now it has 238800. I am keeping it until the car dies.😊
Just picked up an '03 LS Ultimate, black on black w/ 169k for $2200. Immaculate interior, service records, preventative maintenance, one rusted rock chip but no rot to speak of. You gotta keep eyes peeled and jump on the deals but they're there. Lots of old folks selling who dont know/care about value
My first Crown Vic was in 2007 and 20 Crown Vics since then. Now I only have one that I'm selling for all of $1000 and yet, they still try to get the price lowered.
I think the only way to get a cheap one in nice shape, is locally. My nextdoor neighbor sold his moms Grand Marquis, and I got it for 3k, at 99k miles. Its a base model, but very clean. But CVs will command a premium, as to the TCs with higher options, Signatures, Cartiers, etc.
My dad got our 2009 Ford in 2015 for $4500 with 120,000 miles, 3800 hours and posi rear end, cruise control, in white with all tan cloth seats and tan interior. It sits a lot because it gets worse gas mileage than our other vehicles so it has its rust and cosmetic flaws but it runs like a top and is the most reliable car we own above a s10, accord, and mdx.
I absolutely 100 % could not agree more. Today's quality, way down,all the low grade tech a and electrical crap to go wrong just after the warranty period. For what they build today they are worth about 1/2 if the sale price. I will maintain my older vehicle. We're done with car payments. Never again
I noticed this too with me. I've wanted a Crown Vic forever. Before I started driving.. they've always been my dream car. I picked up a 1992 CVLX 10/29/23 ($2k, 82kmiles). The Aero body has really really grown on me especially with the grill-less front the 92's have and now I wouldnt ever want any other Crown Vic because this one is mine!!
A few years ago, I bought a 1998 P71 factory white detectives cruiser in mint condition with 80k miles (I still own it) for $1,300. I then bought a 2009 LAPD Metro unit with Kevlar lined doors for $4,000. Can't really find those that easily for any amount now days!
I agree totally. I have owned five Panthers over the years, including my current one, a 2007 GM GS with a little over 100 K. I purchased it six years ago this month for $6500 with about 45 K from the original owner. Besides basic maintenance, I ve had to replace the fuel tank and pump after the straps rusted off, causing the tank to drop and drag the ground as well as a starter and alternator. I've had some cosmetic work done as well due to paint peel and minor rust. I plan to hold on to her for now as I know I won't see the likes of another. I'm seeing fewer and fewer of these on the road as time goes on. Eventually, it will be like the Chevy Caprice and Cadillac Brougham. A rare, if ever, sighting outside of an enthusiasts collection, a car show, or the salvage yard!! That's the reality!!
Great video believe it or not I picked up a 2010 Mercury Grand Marquis LS ultimate addition with 108,000 original miles one owner Garrage kept for 6500, I considered that a deal here in Michigan. These cars are getting really High priced now, they are getting 5to6 grand for what I consider hoopties.
Those Crown Vics are so fun to drive on the fast lane of the freeway. My bud had one in the mid 90's and when we drove on that lane even slower than the flow cars always moved over to the middle lane.
May 2024 I bought a silver 2003 crown victoria LX with leather interior, from the original owner. 109,000 miles. I paid 5,500. Car was garaged its whole life, clean grandpa car. So happy I bought it! And I'm in Los Angeles CA.
Bought a 04 Lincoln town car with 60k miles garage kept no rust at all for 7k couple years back i love that car. Bout 10 years ago i had a grand marquis i really liked them to
I have a 2009 CVPI SAP from the NYS MTA in 2017 for 6k, it had 62k miles and 291 hrs. Silver, rug, bench seat, cd player, 3.55’s trunk pack. Today it has 152k 423hrs, thank God I found a factory intake mine is seeping a bit. Going to just keep it going 👍 And no rot either.
Sadly being in the rust belt (mine is 17 years old now, had to patch the rockers last year, needs a gas tank and a flex plate likely now sadly) I'll likely be selling mine here and get a newer camry (plus 7 bucks a gallon here in Canada is a big ouch for dailying a crown vic at this point). But even after I'll always love the old Crown Vics. I bought my P71 5 years ago and since then I've only seen one or two other clean ones in that period here on marketplace so I lucked out for sure. The days of finding plentiful and cheap Crown Vics are done 100% as you said. Even getting one is nearly impossible around here, let alone for a cheap price. Even ones needing repairs are 3500 to 4000 dollar cars nowadays. Mine is still only sitting at 179K kms (112k Mi) & 272hr. Wild how much things have changed in the last 5 years. Even before COVID the prices on these were already starting to increase.
That’s very true! The sad part is they will never come back down for this model just due to its demand and lack of availability now. I’m still on my hunt for a stone interior 2011, but at this point I highly doubt I will come across it. If I do it will be very expensive. Our gas prices are $3 a gallon here in the lower part of the states, so driving the Crown Victoria is a breeze, however, as a cop I do have a take home vehicle which means I never have to use my own gas money to go to work. These cars are luxury based for my use as it stands. Even if I did have to support fuel, I don’t see $3 being too bad here. I knew prices were out of this world up there! I can’t imagine spending that much on gas, and I hope it’s a long time before it happens here. Maybe someday there will be a guy up there who obtains a better mpg vehicle, and is willing to take a ridiculously low modern price for a Vic you can snatch later. Who knows!
@@CarolinaCrown98 who knows. But yeah they're not economical to drive up here. Driving a 2020 camry for example you save about $2100 to 2400 a year on fuel alone over a P71 here in Canada. Plus no rust for example and generally less maintenance since newer and a Toyota, it pays for itself pretty quickly. I'll be very sad the day the vic.goes but it's coming eventually.
As part of the younger generation of panther enthusiasts. Prices have gone to extremes. I’m also a 90s Camry enthusiast and you can’t even get a good condition 90s Camry for less than 3,500. In August I’m planning to purchase a panther.
Best wishes on getting a good one for a decent price. I’m not sure that’s going to happen easily. I hope you’re at least willing to pay $6,000 at the minimum. Maybe $8,000-$12,000 for pristine condition. All of mine except for my daily driver were right at or above $10,000 each.
Usually the plastic intake manifold has to be replaced by about 190 k miles. I have a 2000 Lincoln Town Car. 225 k miles. Everything replaced. Manifold, air shocks, front suspension, etc. Glad to know prices rising. If I ever sell it or trade it. But probably just keep driving it forever. Thanks.
I bought a 2008 CVPI with 20k miles and 228 idle hours in August 2023 for $7,100. I’m in Connecticut and the car was in Mass. I almost dropped my phone when I saw the price and bought it the next day. Everything is legit and it is mint! It just hit 28k miles and it rides like it’s brand new. I was lucky the car was garaged and kept in great shape. The previous owner bought it from Chicago Motor Cars in 2017 with 16k miles. It’s my daily driver and I love it.
I’m commenting before watching but, I love ford panther cars I own 3 myself. I hope the prices increase by a lot soon I know that hurts me because I wanna it more but, the derby guys are destroying these cars left and right. These cars will outlast a lot of brand new cars
I saw the prices constantly going up and thought it was time. I fortunately found a 2009 CPVI with 78,000 miles that was in the San Antonio Auction for 8k in November 2023. I'd say its in 9/10 condition, it does have the clear coat peeling, but other than that, it has been an amazing car. The LAPD still have roughly 500 NEW CVPIs in storage that will eventually be put in service once the older ones phase out. They stock piled them knowing they were stop building them. I'd imagine in 5 years those cars will be in the 20k range in auction.
The last time I saw them going at auction(live & online)for todays prices was around 2000-2012 when cab companies were buying every single one they could get their hands on for top dollar! 2013-2021 was when prices got reasonable and when I bought some nice clean ones for cheap. For a while during that period you could get a decent one for under $2000! The rough & wrecked ones were $400-$850 and the mint lower mileage unmarked/detective cars were $2500-$4000. I bought a blue unmarked detective 2008 SAP identical to the one in your thumbnail from the PA state police live auction for around $2000 out the door in 2021. 125k miles with 199 idle hours! Was listed with the non runners advertised with a transmission issue. Only mechanical problem I found was a sticking shifter you had to jiggle to take it out of park. I drove it around and there is nothing wrong with the car! Assigned to the southern part of the state-aside from slightly rusty rockers it’s pretty solid. 2022 was the last of the cheap CVPI’s for me,online auction from a medium size southern city-seemed like they were selling off the last batch of 30 white CVPI’s. I was after 2 but ended up with 4 due to the listings ending at around the same time & nobody outbid my low proxy bids? All model year 2011 mileage from 85k-108k around 5k idle hours out the door for $5600-around what ONE goes for today! I know I’ll never see them that cheap again.
Sounds like you got some lucky finds! You definitely won’t find these deals anymore due to the way the vehicles have been treated, and the newest one will be 13 years old very sadly in August.
paid 2500 for 06 cvpi retired Florida Highway Patrol ..... check engine code P0452 evap bullcrap and ive damn near spent 600 or more still trying to figure out the fault to no prevail and its just suckin my wallet dry i love the car but i have to pass echeck and its unbearable issue to troubleshoot
I purchased a 2003 Grand Marquis LS with 47K about 4 years ago for $5500. It now has 120K with very little issues along the way. These Panther cars are rock solid and easy to work on. Was on some of the car sale sites and a similar milage 49K 03-11 GM will cost 12-15K.
Well I imported (Jan/2024) 2011 p71, for 6K on govbids (120k miles, no rust, no mechanical issues, no patrol car). The prices are crazy, but it was my dream car... Saw the blue one that you mentioned, If I remember it was relisted twice.
I’m not sure about that. I usually stay on there a lot and the first time I seen it I didn’t let it go! I didn’t care what the ending bid was, I knew it was going to be mine no matter what.
I n the past 2 months I have purchased 2 CVPI from govdeals, a white '03 (probably detective vehicle) with 112,000 miles for $2,250 and an '11 (a college fleet vehicle, no patrol miles) with 170,000 mile for $3,380. The '03 has some mild paint issues (what white CVPI does not), needed the rear calipers replaced and 4 tires but otherwise is good as a basic daily driver. 1 rear window does not work (just have not messed with it yet), needed a new center console, replaced headlight housings. Did the full fluid/filter change and have around $3,500 out of pocket including registration. The '11 had some door and window issues with the only out of pocket cost is a new window motor, and aside from maintenance, nothing needed to drive across country. It has the full cloth interior with carpet and front bench seat with arm rests, power drivers, cruise, remote keyless, and even though 170,000 miles, only 633 idle hours. Will be under $4,000 for a very well sorted CVPI. Good deals can still be found, but are getting harder to find, as you said, even the newest model is 13 years old.
Yeah more or less what I’m trying to hit on is a lower mileage and completely clean example inside and out. I’m sure you can get the plain white and high mileage ones out there for lower. Those deals are just getting super tough to find! Even a 170K Vic for $4,000 is crazy high compared to a few years ago! I also feel as though 06+ will bring in more revenue. Most people love the idle hour feature.
@@CarolinaCrown98 , gotcha, and I do agree with that, the time for "pristine" examples at even any semblance of a reasonable price is no more. Most anything that is now coming out of service is well used. There are still some deals out there for daily drivers, but your examples, not much, except private market now, and you are going to pay for it.
I bought mine from Chicago Motor Inc, a 2010 P7B with a listing of $12,700, negotiated it down to $11,000, 51k miles on the clock, 2600 idle hours. Since my mom is paying for it, she doesn't trust anything below 10k, and I always wanted a PI Crown Vic, so the price increase actually helped me in my case?
They're getting expensive. I bought a 2000 gold P71 w/ civilian appearance package with 88K miles for $3200 a year ago. It's a peach. Deals can be found, but they are harder to find. Rust free Alabama car.
Bought my 06 P71 in 2016 for $2700 out of FL, 92k miles, Dark Red, Appearance Pkg. I still have it, still runs good at over 200k miles. Only issue is clear coat peeling. I want another one, but I just can't justify $8000 for an older car.
As of right now I have a Marty tune and 4:10 gears but I just ordered the adtr supercharger kit all coated black and adtr full suspension and stainless works long tube headers and full exhaust all ordered from adtr for $15,723 as soon as moes speed shop get it in they will schedul from install and dyno tuning as well as the proper stall for the build they told me around 7500 for install and tuning all the upgrades but will he a sweet rife when it's done
It not totally impossible to buy one at a good price. Just keep your ears open. This year I purchased a 2004 Grand Marquis in great shape 94,000 miles one owner for $1,000..
even worse, these cars will always bust the plastic Intake Manifold. Ford used to make replacement models made of aluminum. they stopped in 2019 though and now the parts cost 500-700$ and used to be 200 brand new. these cars will eventually be useless if you cant find a replacement manifold.
Most of these cars are now very old and beat to death. Unfortunately they are rapidly disappearing and easy parts support is going away. I wouldn’t pay more than $5k for one in top condition.
@@aclark7647 Well I have got one from Florida that was high priced. You’re not going to get one with less than 60K and less than 500 idle hours for $5,000 now is what I should say. I think that’s more of an entire south thing because of the rust issue up north. If you want a good one, you’ll come south and pay!
I call it the “Florida tax” as those cars are more popular in Florida versus other regions of the country. They usually command a higher price there. I bought a 2011 147k miles,close to 5000 idle hours for around $3k out the door live auction. It’s the most I’ve ever paid for a CVPI! Living in the northeast the fact it’s rust free is a big plus. It’s a former Alachua County green and white. I like the shade of green and the door jams are already matching so a all green repaint would save some money. The TH-camr in Florida who’s name I will not mention with the racetrack contributes to the inflated prices there as well.
@@FrankTimms-cs5hl 3K is the highest you’ve paid? I can’t find any that I wouldn’t be embarrassed to drive for that. $5K is the cut off for decent now. That’s DECENT.
@@CarolinaCrown98 I want all the latest creature comfort features that can be installed. Basically an interior overhaul. A backup camera, cruise control (repaired/replaced), new seats, new carpet, steering column, modern shocks/struts to tighten up loose handling, etc. Really a whole new dashboard with 2024 functionality if that’s possible. Sort of a “Pimp My Ride” makeover.
@@grizzayallday4948 Awesome! I’m confident it’s a possibility, but would cost a shinny penny for sure. At least the GM has more amenities than the CV. Not to mention the PI has even less than that because it’s a work horse.
@@CarolinaCrown98 no doubt. That’s true. Mine is a 2001 and I got it as a steal of a deal almost four years ago with 66k original miles. It belonged to a 91 year old woman who passed. Her son sold it to me for $500 after it had been sitting unmoved for 2+ years.
Absolutely none of these are for sale. They are my personal collection. I would be willing to sell my daily driver (black). That would at minimum be $7,500 though. I would only sell it to replace it with another one.
Considering the fact that a much newer and cleaner dodge charger goes for a few grand more, buying a crown vic at its current price makes no sense. People with little self-respect and deep pockets hopping on a bandwagon is what causes prices for vehicles shown on a few popular youtube videos to go out of control. Its what happened to the Crown Vic, Miata, 90's JDM cars in general, and a few other cars. The end result is marketplaces being flooded with molested examples of said vehicles and their delusional owners thinking they are worth double what they originally purchased them for. Most of those vehicles have alternatives to them that are much cheaper. Personally, I think its a bubble that will burst when people realize that they are ultimately purchasing a 20-25 year old ford for $10K or if a huge financial recession comes and people no longer have $10K to spend on them. TL:DR, You can find other V8 sedans that are better value. The crown vic's pricing is currently in a bubble and you probably should not purchase them at its current price.
I fully disagree but respect your comment. The Vic was the last full frame rear wheel drive body on frame sedan manufactured by an American brand automaker. It will stand firm. A dodge charger, speaking as a law enforcement officer myself, is one of the biggest piles of dog shit our agency has ever had. It’s constantly breaking down and needing repairs as are our Taurus and Explorer based ones. These newer made vehicles will never stand up to the durability and reliability of the original PI. I wouldn’t buy a charger myself for $5,000. I further value these cars in excess of your opinion based on personal experience owning and patrolling in one. They stand strong, run hard, take a beating, and still keep going for more. We merely phase out CVPIs due to age with out the regard to it having any type of mechanical issues. Ours certainly had no problems being retired.
They are! I got what I could while supplies lasted lol. I mean brother naturally when people like something, and there is less of them now…. Prices are going to go up. It’s only going to get worse because they’re 13 plus now, so there’s not a lot of great condition ones left.
Wtf was the point of commenting 😂 I mean I guess go drive a lifted truck or a Prius idc. Your opinion means as much to me as how many hairs are on my ass cheeks.
There getting hight because there is not that mini in good running condition with no transmission and engine problems out there but the people who have them will sale them for over 10,000 because they know people wont them but i still have my 06 and i had ppl ask me to sale it i had a offer of 10,500 but i cant i love my car
Just picked up a 1997. Garged her entire life. 1 owner and all paper work from day 1.
had one years ago .make sure you replace the plastic manifold they like to blow behind the alternator
@@renj6531 I have been trying to find an OEM one to stock up, but I haven’t been able to locate it.
The 1998 Panthers were much improved. You should have done a little research...
@@crankychris2 they upgraded the rear suspension then in ( I believe 2005) they switched to rack and pinion steering from recirculating ball if it were me personally, I would buy a 2008 to 2011
So, just bragging?
I bought a 2007 Grand Marquis LS 4 years ago. Love the car. It had 80,000 miles.I paid $7000.00. Leather seats.
I bought my 2011 grand marquis in 2012 for 18,000 US with 35,000 km on it. It was a rental car and I bought it from the dealership. Leather seats and the whole works. Back then nobody wanted them. The dealership had five of them on their lot for months. Amazing how things have changed.
These pop up on the sides of rural roads every once in a while when I drive my truck. I will start looking at these now.
97 town car still runs great.Never sell it just do the maintenance
I bought a 2006 P71 with 169k and 405 idle hours last winter. Found it on GovDeals, paid 1600 for it. Same department owned it since new, Southern California, no rust. Paint is tired, but it has all the service records. I feel like I got a pretty good deal.
We bought a 2005 Crown Vic Lx at an estate sale. 37000 miles for $3000. Needed deck lid due to elderly woman backing into garage. Runs great!
I am 60 years of age. Have been a professional driver, from cars to 18 wheelers, hundreds of thousands of miles. The CV, esp. a P71 is the best car ever.
You mean stunt driver ?
In 2016 I bought a 2003 Crown Victoria LX with 88,000 miles for $3200.I put about another $2000 in repairs and maintenance into it shortly after. It now has 191000 miles but has been the best-used car i have ever bought. All it needed was routine maintenance and normal wear parts. I do live in NW PA, the rust is getting to it. still pretty solid, I plan to drive it as long as I can.
Just bought a 2000 grand marquis ls w 82k for $2000 in Georgia. Paints a little rough and the bumper is broken but inside is very clean w no rips or stains in the cloth seats. I’m stoked.
Got a 2004 Mercury Grand Marquis for 700 from a junkyard. Bought it in 2019. Put in an axle on the passenger side water pump paint is peeling., it has the spark plug issue. Got it with 185000 miles on it now it has 238800. I am keeping it until the car dies.😊
Just picked up an '03 LS Ultimate, black on black w/ 169k for $2200. Immaculate interior, service records, preventative maintenance, one rusted rock chip but no rot to speak of. You gotta keep eyes peeled and jump on the deals but they're there. Lots of old folks selling who dont know/care about value
Yeah civilian models will definitely go for cheaper I think! The P71/P7B is most sought after nowadays.
My first Crown Vic was in 2007 and 20 Crown Vics since then. Now I only have one that I'm selling for all of $1000 and yet, they still try to get the price lowered.
I’ll give you a dollar 😂
just buy it from us here in Kuwait. they used to sell it for the public. with great options and reliable for our climate.
I think the only way to get a cheap one in nice shape, is locally. My nextdoor neighbor sold his moms Grand Marquis, and I got it for 3k, at 99k miles. Its a base model, but very clean.
But CVs will command a premium, as to the TCs with higher options, Signatures, Cartiers, etc.
My dad got our 2009 Ford in 2015 for $4500 with 120,000 miles, 3800 hours and posi rear end, cruise control, in white with all tan cloth seats and tan interior. It sits a lot because it gets worse gas mileage than our other vehicles so it has its rust and cosmetic flaws but it runs like a top and is the most reliable car we own above a s10, accord, and mdx.
My buddy and I went to the dealership and they wanted $3500 for a ford with no ac and rust, gone are the 6 year old car for $4500 days
I have a 2007 Lincoln Towncar it rides like a beauty! Unbelievable how the quality of vehicles has gone down since then.
I absolutely 100 % could not agree more. Today's quality, way down,all the low grade tech a and electrical crap to go wrong just after the warranty period. For what they build today they are worth about 1/2 if the sale price. I will maintain my older vehicle. We're done with car payments. Never again
Bought my first car two weeks ago. 94 Crown Vic P73, 88k miles, beautiful condition, $3,500. The aero body has really started to grow on me.
I noticed this too with me. I've wanted a Crown Vic forever. Before I started driving.. they've always been my dream car. I picked up a 1992 CVLX 10/29/23 ($2k, 82kmiles). The Aero body has really really grown on me especially with the grill-less front the 92's have and now I wouldnt ever want any other Crown Vic because this one is mine!!
A few years ago, I bought a 1998 P71 factory white detectives cruiser in mint condition with 80k miles (I still own it) for $1,300. I then bought a 2009 LAPD Metro unit with Kevlar lined doors for $4,000. Can't really find those that easily for any amount now days!
Bought a 2002 town car 160k miles couple
Of months ago. Paid 6k in Idaho but no rust and seems to be in great shape.
I agree totally. I have owned five Panthers over the years, including my current one, a 2007 GM GS with a little over 100 K. I purchased it six years ago this month for $6500 with about 45 K from the original owner. Besides basic maintenance, I ve had to replace the fuel tank and pump after the straps rusted off, causing the tank to drop and drag the ground as well as a starter and alternator. I've had some cosmetic work done as well due to paint peel and minor rust. I plan to hold on to her for now as I know I won't see the likes of another. I'm seeing fewer and fewer of these on the road as time goes on. Eventually, it will be like the Chevy Caprice and Cadillac Brougham. A rare, if ever, sighting outside of an enthusiasts collection, a car show, or the salvage yard!! That's the reality!!
I just purchased a 2007 P74 with a factory Sunroof . $750 .
Great video believe it or not I picked up a 2010 Mercury Grand Marquis LS ultimate addition with 108,000 original miles one owner Garrage kept for 6500, I considered that a deal here in Michigan. These cars are getting really High priced now, they are getting 5to6 grand for what I consider hoopties.
Those Crown Vics are so fun to drive on the fast lane of the freeway. My bud had one in the mid 90's and when we drove on that lane even slower than the flow cars always moved over to the middle lane.
May 2024 I bought a silver 2003 crown victoria LX with leather interior, from the original owner. 109,000 miles. I paid 5,500. Car was garaged its whole life, clean grandpa car. So happy I bought it! And I'm in Los Angeles CA.
Yea, I've been looking for a town car or something and I can't find one in good shape that isn't 15k
Bought a 04 Lincoln town car with 60k miles garage kept no rust at all for 7k couple years back i love that car. Bout 10 years ago i had a grand marquis i really liked them to
Just last Thursday I bought a 06 with 86000 miles for $1500 and already put a little over $300 in on it
What area
@@travonpoindexter8349 Virginia Beach
That’s a rare find definitely!
@@CarolinaCrown98 most definitely, just needs some more work done to it
Regards from Poland.Mercury Grand Marquis LS 10' owner.
I have a 2009 CVPI SAP from the NYS MTA in 2017 for 6k, it had 62k miles and 291 hrs. Silver, rug, bench seat, cd player, 3.55’s trunk pack. Today it has 152k 423hrs, thank God I found a factory intake mine is seeping a bit. Going to just keep it going 👍 And no rot either.
Mannnnn that car would be $17,000 today 😂 that’s wild. $6K back then for a mint one was about average. Goodbye to those days obviously.
Sadly being in the rust belt (mine is 17 years old now, had to patch the rockers last year, needs a gas tank and a flex plate likely now sadly) I'll likely be selling mine here and get a newer camry (plus 7 bucks a gallon here in Canada is a big ouch for dailying a crown vic at this point). But even after I'll always love the old Crown Vics. I bought my P71 5 years ago and since then I've only seen one or two other clean ones in that period here on marketplace so I lucked out for sure. The days of finding plentiful and cheap Crown Vics are done 100% as you said. Even getting one is nearly impossible around here, let alone for a cheap price. Even ones needing repairs are 3500 to 4000 dollar cars nowadays. Mine is still only sitting at 179K kms (112k Mi) & 272hr. Wild how much things have changed in the last 5 years. Even before COVID the prices on these were already starting to increase.
That’s very true! The sad part is they will never come back down for this model just due to its demand and lack of availability now. I’m still on my hunt for a stone interior 2011, but at this point I highly doubt I will come across it. If I do it will be very expensive. Our gas prices are $3 a gallon here in the lower part of the states, so driving the Crown Victoria is a breeze, however, as a cop I do have a take home vehicle which means I never have to use my own gas money to go to work. These cars are luxury based for my use as it stands. Even if I did have to support fuel, I don’t see $3 being too bad here. I knew prices were out of this world up there! I can’t imagine spending that much on gas, and I hope it’s a long time before it happens here. Maybe someday there will be a guy up there who obtains a better mpg vehicle, and is willing to take a ridiculously low modern price for a Vic you can snatch later. Who knows!
@@CarolinaCrown98 who knows. But yeah they're not economical to drive up here. Driving a 2020 camry for example you save about $2100 to 2400 a year on fuel alone over a P71 here in Canada. Plus no rust for example and generally less maintenance since newer and a Toyota, it pays for itself pretty quickly. I'll be very sad the day the vic.goes but it's coming eventually.
@@flyer2359x I’m going to miss your videos! 🙂↕️
These will run for ever with little maintenance. Best car Ford ever made in my opinion.
As part of the younger generation of panther enthusiasts. Prices have gone to extremes. I’m also a 90s Camry enthusiast and you can’t even get a good condition 90s Camry for less than 3,500. In August I’m planning to purchase a panther.
Best wishes on getting a good one for a decent price. I’m not sure that’s going to happen easily. I hope you’re at least willing to pay $6,000 at the minimum. Maybe $8,000-$12,000 for pristine condition. All of mine except for my daily driver were right at or above $10,000 each.
Usually the plastic intake manifold has to be replaced by about 190 k miles. I have a 2000 Lincoln Town Car. 225 k miles. Everything replaced. Manifold, air shocks, front suspension, etc. Glad to know prices rising. If I ever sell it or trade it. But probably just keep driving it forever. Thanks.
I got my 07 with 86k miles and 370 idle hrs for 3k last year off of govdeals, haven't had any issues with it
Lucky duck. Those deals are few and far between. How’s the undercarriage?
@@CarolinaCrown98 Zero rust, It was a Maryland car
@@tactiblox Count your lucky stars lol!
I bought a 2008 CVPI with 20k miles and 228 idle hours in August 2023 for $7,100. I’m in Connecticut and the car was in Mass. I almost dropped my phone when I saw the price and bought it the next day. Everything is legit and it is mint! It just hit 28k miles and it rides like it’s brand new. I was lucky the car was garaged and kept in great shape. The previous owner bought it from Chicago Motor Cars in 2017 with 16k miles. It’s my daily driver and I love it.
Oh noooo I wouldn’t drive it 😂
I’m commenting before watching but, I love ford panther cars I own 3 myself. I hope the prices increase by a lot soon I know that hurts me because I wanna it more but, the derby guys are destroying these cars left and right. These cars will outlast a lot of brand new cars
I wouldn’t sell one of mine for $15,000 lol! Amen brother.
I saw the prices constantly going up and thought it was time. I fortunately found a 2009 CPVI with 78,000 miles that was in the San Antonio Auction for 8k in November 2023. I'd say its in 9/10 condition, it does have the clear coat peeling, but other than that, it has been an amazing car. The LAPD still have roughly 500 NEW CVPIs in storage that will eventually be put in service once the older ones phase out. They stock piled them knowing they were stop building them. I'd imagine in 5 years those cars will be in the 20k range in auction.
I would love to get one myself.
I wouldn’t be surprised if many police departments did the same stocking up on Chargers when production was ending.
The last time I saw them going at auction(live & online)for todays prices was around 2000-2012 when cab companies were buying every single one they could get their hands on for top dollar!
2013-2021 was when prices got reasonable and when I bought some nice clean ones for cheap.
For a while during that period you could get a decent one for under $2000!
The rough & wrecked ones were $400-$850 and the mint lower mileage unmarked/detective cars were $2500-$4000.
I bought a blue unmarked detective 2008 SAP identical to the one in your thumbnail from the PA state police live auction for around $2000 out the door in 2021.
125k miles with 199 idle hours!
Was listed with the non runners advertised with a transmission issue.
Only mechanical problem I found was a sticking shifter you had to jiggle to take it out of park.
I drove it around and there is nothing wrong with the car!
Assigned to the southern part of the state-aside from slightly rusty rockers it’s pretty solid.
2022 was the last of the cheap CVPI’s for me,online auction from a medium size southern city-seemed like they were selling off the last batch of 30 white CVPI’s.
I was after 2 but ended up with 4 due to the listings ending at around the same time & nobody outbid my low proxy bids?
All model year 2011 mileage from 85k-108k around 5k idle hours out the door for $5600-around what ONE goes for today!
I know I’ll never see them that cheap again.
Sounds like you got some lucky finds! You definitely won’t find these deals anymore due to the way the vehicles have been treated, and the newest one will be 13 years old very sadly in August.
paid 2500 for 06 cvpi retired Florida Highway Patrol ..... check engine code P0452 evap bullcrap and ive damn near spent 600 or more still trying to figure out the fault to no prevail and its just suckin my wallet dry i love the car but i have to pass echeck and its unbearable issue to troubleshoot
Yeah. $2,500 isn’t going to get a good Vic anymore. You gotta pay 💰 I wouldn’t even sell my black daily for less than $7,500.
I purchased a 2003 Grand Marquis LS with 47K about 4 years ago for $5500. It now has 120K with very little issues
along the way. These Panther cars are rock solid and easy to work on. Was on some of the car sale sites and a similar milage 49K 03-11 GM will cost 12-15K.
Recently got a grand marquis with 85k I keep hearing people say it’s reliable but the previous owner wasn’t
Maintenance goes a long way….
@@CarolinaCrown98 yeah once I get all his shit taken care of it’s going to be far more reliable
As a Toyota driver---YES! Ford Crowns were made to last!
I'd love a p71 sap, but finding one in good shape is almost impossible for a great price
Sadly that is now true
Well I imported (Jan/2024) 2011 p71, for 6K on govbids (120k miles, no rust, no mechanical issues, no patrol car). The prices are crazy, but it was my dream car... Saw the blue one that you mentioned, If I remember it was relisted twice.
I’m not sure about that. I usually stay on there a lot and the first time I seen it I didn’t let it go! I didn’t care what the ending bid was, I knew it was going to be mine no matter what.
I n the past 2 months I have purchased 2 CVPI from govdeals, a white '03 (probably detective vehicle) with 112,000 miles for $2,250 and an '11 (a college fleet vehicle, no patrol miles) with 170,000 mile for $3,380.
The '03 has some mild paint issues (what white CVPI does not), needed the rear calipers replaced and 4 tires but otherwise is good as a basic daily driver. 1 rear window does not work (just have not messed with it yet), needed a new center console, replaced headlight housings. Did the full fluid/filter change and have around $3,500 out of pocket including registration.
The '11 had some door and window issues with the only out of pocket cost is a new window motor, and aside from maintenance, nothing needed to drive across country. It has the full cloth interior with carpet and front bench seat with arm rests, power drivers, cruise, remote keyless, and even though 170,000 miles, only 633 idle hours. Will be under $4,000 for a very well sorted CVPI.
Good deals can still be found, but are getting harder to find, as you said, even the newest model is 13 years old.
Yeah more or less what I’m trying to hit on is a lower mileage and completely clean example inside and out. I’m sure you can get the plain white and high mileage ones out there for lower. Those deals are just getting super tough to find! Even a 170K Vic for $4,000 is crazy high compared to a few years ago! I also feel as though 06+ will bring in more revenue. Most people love the idle hour feature.
@@CarolinaCrown98 , gotcha, and I do agree with that, the time for "pristine" examples at even any semblance of a reasonable price is no more.
Most anything that is now coming out of service is well used.
There are still some deals out there for daily drivers, but your examples, not much, except private market now, and you are going to pay for it.
I bought mine from Chicago Motor Inc, a 2010 P7B with a listing of $12,700, negotiated it down to $11,000, 51k miles on the clock, 2600 idle hours. Since my mom is paying for it, she doesn't trust anything below 10k, and I always wanted a PI Crown Vic, so the price increase actually helped me in my case?
In today’s world, Crown Victorias are worth that price.
They're getting expensive. I bought a 2000 gold P71 w/ civilian appearance package with 88K miles for $3200 a year ago. It's a peach. Deals can be found, but they are harder to find. Rust free Alabama car.
My most recent P71 cost me $350 with no rust.
I have GOT to see a picture! 😂
Bought my 06 P71 in 2016 for $2700 out of FL, 92k miles, Dark Red, Appearance Pkg. I still have it, still runs good at over 200k miles. Only issue is clear coat peeling. I want another one, but I just can't justify $8000 for an older car.
lol hey dude…. $8,000 for a Crown Victoria of all things or $60,000 for a new vehicle. Ehhh it might be old, but she won’t let you down. 😁
@@CarolinaCrown98 You do have a valid point!! The Vic will probably outlast any new car.
I have a 2003 marauder 79k miles perfect condition cream puff and it was 18k
As of right now I have a Marty tune and 4:10 gears but I just ordered the adtr supercharger kit all coated black and adtr full suspension and stainless works long tube headers and full exhaust all ordered from adtr for $15,723 as soon as moes speed shop get it in they will schedul from install and dyno tuning as well as the proper stall for the build they told me around 7500 for install and tuning all the upgrades but will he a sweet rife when it's done
ebay has tons of them for a few thousand. Lincoln Town Cars are even cheaper, and they're just Crown Vics with nicer interiors.
I have not seen that…. I look at Vics all the time on eBay, and I have never seen a cheap one.
Yes sir that's true facts 💯
It not totally impossible to buy one at a good price. Just keep your ears open. This year I purchased a 2004 Grand Marquis in great shape 94,000 miles one owner for $1,000..
Well…. Specifically CVPI. I don’t think the MGM is nearly as sought after.
My 2005 Grand Marquis I wouldn't sell it not even for $10.000
even worse, these cars will always bust the plastic Intake Manifold.
Ford used to make replacement models made of aluminum. they stopped in 2019 though and now the parts cost 500-700$ and used to be 200 brand new.
these cars will eventually be useless if you cant find a replacement manifold.
There’s tons of aftermarket options…
Most of these cars are now very old and beat to death. Unfortunately they are rapidly disappearing and easy parts support is going away. I wouldn’t pay more than $5k for one in top condition.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q Stock your parts, and you won’t have to worry about it.
I got a 2011 P7B with 108k miles for $4200, no mechanical problems at all
4000 idle hours
What website did you find these beauty’s on
I got this one off Govdeals. Haven’t seen anything like it since. I think it was the last. Who knows what is left.
@@CarolinaCrown98 thank you well I know your very happy about it and enjoy it 🙏🏾🙏🏾🔥🔥🔥
@@aaronhudgins5810 Yes! It’s being preserved. It is garage kept and never driven at any point.
@@CarolinaCrown98 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🫡🫡🫡🫡
South Carolina , is overpriced .
What do you mean
The auction is meant to be a deal , the South Carolina and Delaware auction is overpriced .
@@aclark7647 Well I have got one from Florida that was high priced. You’re not going to get one with less than 60K and less than 500 idle hours for $5,000 now is what I should say. I think that’s more of an entire south thing because of the rust issue up north. If you want a good one, you’ll come south and pay!
I call it the “Florida tax” as those cars are more popular in Florida versus other regions of the country.
They usually command a higher price there.
I bought a 2011 147k miles,close to 5000 idle hours for around $3k out the door live auction.
It’s the most I’ve ever paid for a CVPI!
Living in the northeast the fact it’s rust free is a big plus.
It’s a former Alachua County green and white.
I like the shade of green and the door jams are already matching so a all green repaint would save some money.
The TH-camr in Florida who’s name I will not mention with the racetrack contributes to the inflated prices there as well.
@@FrankTimms-cs5hl 3K is the highest you’ve paid? I can’t find any that I wouldn’t be embarrassed to drive for that. $5K is the cut off for decent now. That’s DECENT.
Does anyone know a reputable company that does full vehicle restoration on these cars? I want to update my Grand Marquis with modern amenities.
What are you trying to get done exactly
@@CarolinaCrown98 I want all the latest creature comfort features that can be installed. Basically an interior overhaul. A backup camera, cruise control (repaired/replaced), new seats, new carpet, steering column, modern shocks/struts to tighten up loose handling, etc. Really a whole new dashboard with 2024 functionality if that’s possible. Sort of a “Pimp My Ride” makeover.
@@grizzayallday4948 Awesome! I’m confident it’s a possibility, but would cost a shinny penny for sure. At least the GM has more amenities than the CV. Not to mention the PI has even less than that because it’s a work horse.
@@CarolinaCrown98 no doubt. That’s true. Mine is a 2001 and I got it as a steal of a deal almost four years ago with 66k original miles. It belonged to a 91 year old woman who passed. Her son sold it to me for $500 after it had been sitting unmoved for 2+ years.
@@grizzayallday4948 Those are some lucky deals getting more rare!
2004 is the best year because is the last year with the CNG powered crown vic
I’ve seen some 2011 with CNG.
2004 crown Vic in 2024
is this crown fore sale ?
Absolutely none of these are for sale. They are my personal collection. I would be willing to sell my daily driver (black). That would at minimum be $7,500 though. I would only sell it to replace it with another one.
I want to see you get an '98 LSC
No 😂 I don’t have a problem with it, but I don’t need anymore vehicles.
@@CarolinaCrown98 everyone needs an LSC in their life, there's nothing like a Mark VIII 😉
lol fb marketplace bro omg u funny!!!
I didn’t say you couldn’t buy a piece of shit brother haha
Considering the fact that a much newer and cleaner dodge charger goes for a few grand more, buying a crown vic at its current price makes no sense.
People with little self-respect and deep pockets hopping on a bandwagon is what causes prices for vehicles shown on a few popular youtube videos to go out of control. Its what happened to the Crown Vic, Miata, 90's JDM cars in general, and a few other cars. The end result is marketplaces being flooded with molested examples of said vehicles and their delusional owners thinking they are worth double what they originally purchased them for.
Most of those vehicles have alternatives to them that are much cheaper. Personally, I think its a bubble that will burst when people realize that they are ultimately purchasing a 20-25 year old ford for $10K or if a huge financial recession comes and people no longer have $10K to spend on them.
TL:DR, You can find other V8 sedans that are better value. The crown vic's pricing is currently in a bubble and you probably should not purchase them at its current price.
I fully disagree but respect your comment. The Vic was the last full frame rear wheel drive body on frame sedan manufactured by an American brand automaker. It will stand firm. A dodge charger, speaking as a law enforcement officer myself, is one of the biggest piles of dog shit our agency has ever had. It’s constantly breaking down and needing repairs as are our Taurus and Explorer based ones. These newer made vehicles will never stand up to the durability and reliability of the original PI. I wouldn’t buy a charger myself for $5,000. I further value these cars in excess of your opinion based on personal experience owning and patrolling in one. They stand strong, run hard, take a beating, and still keep going for more. We merely phase out CVPIs due to age with out the regard to it having any type of mechanical issues. Ours certainly had no problems being retired.
The panther cars will be on the road still when those chargers and a lot of other newer unibody cars are in the junkyards. It’s a fact.
So, the Panther community is its own worst enemy. Got it.
They are! I got what I could while supplies lasted lol. I mean brother naturally when people like something, and there is less of them now…. Prices are going to go up. It’s only going to get worse because they’re 13 plus now, so there’s not a lot of great condition ones left.
This is the least consequential video TH-cam recommended to me this year. Very few humans choose to drive Crown Vics. They just don't.
Wtf was the point of commenting 😂 I mean I guess go drive a lifted truck or a Prius idc. Your opinion means as much to me as how many hairs are on my ass cheeks.
There getting hight because there is not that mini in good running condition with no transmission and engine problems out there but the people who have them will sale them for over 10,000 because they know people wont them but i still have my 06 and i had ppl ask me to sale it i had a offer of 10,500 but i cant i love my car
fearmongering much?
Of what? The disappearance of the panther? Well that’s a given considering they don’t make them. They won’t be around forever.