In my opinion, this fight is quite possibly the greatest display of elite level ring IQ and technical skills in boxing history - put on by two of the most complete boxers I have ever seen. How I wish we got to see McCallum fight the Four Kings, maybe then he would have got the flowers he deserved. James Toney is one of the most naturally gifted fighters ever. Both legends of the sport!
This,I agree Mike was underrated and they never would give him the big fights.Got to give Toney props for taking on a fight like this early in his career..
My favourite fight and watched it dozens of times for the mastery of the sweet but brutal science of boxing..From when I watched this when it happened to now I’ve always had Toney edging it, the fight was even up until the last round where Toney was the more affective aggressor. It’s only in the slow motion moments that you appreciate how subtle the boxing is, McCallum with his busier jab and body punches and Toney with his left hooks (Which I believe won him the fight, McCallums swelling under his right eye was evidence of this) and big right hands. James Toney is one of my favourites (Along with Hearns, Chavez, Hagler and Sanchez) from when I started watching boxing form the early eighties. But I’ve always admired Mike McCallum because he was a real throwback to the golden era. The amazing achievement is that he is 35 years old in this fight and must of had to boil down a bit to make weight (Toney was always notorious for this) yet his conditioning was unbelievable. The great thing is they fought two more times, their styles complemented each other so their fights were always going to be close and controversial. Many Thanks🥊
There is also something to be said about being ringside, hearing and seeing the punches that are landed. James had power that starched cruiserweights, seems like Toney's power was on different level than Mike's. Mike took it like a freaking champ though, some of those punches would at least stagger even good fighters at higher weights, but he came back after every exchange like a warrior. Looking back on this fight makes their performances even that much better.
One of the greatest skilled fights you'll ever see by both fighters, two legends of the game. McCallum vs Toney ended up having 3 fights. Tony in his prime at 23 & McCallum at 35 in the end of his career & put on a masterclass from Rd 1 to 12.
He's my favorite fighter. James was a 200lbs running back in high school, got a scholarship to play football, got hurt, then decided to be a boxer. They melted him down to fight at middleweight, he struggled to make weight in his first fights, let alone keeping him at that weight. Roy Jones Jr said after his fight with James, that Toney should have went up to cruiserweight and I agree. James could have been a bit more disciplined, but he wasn't a natural middle.
LMAO! I spoke to him once. He said that as the money came, it was harder to stay hungry and disciplined. And then, he had the belief in himself that nobody could beat him no matter what shape he was in. He said he didn't train hard for the Jones fight because he didn't believe that Roys skill level could match his, but he paid for it. Toney looked very good as a cruiserweight
@@mdmcdd1117 Roy's top attribute wasn't skill, he was probably the best athlete that ever put on gloves. That fighting rooster style coming at you with the speed of a lightweight was pretty unbeatable when Roy was at his physical peak, Toney would've had to had been in top condition.
Have a hard time finding a fight that featured more actual SKILL than this one. I thought Toney won, but he's my favorite fighter of all time, so I am definitely biased.
@@alvindavis4158 Whoever designed Salvador Sanchez was done. They gave him absolutely everything they needed to as a fighter. because he could do absolutely everything and he had another GEAR when he needed it. If there wasn't separation between him and his opponent, he created it. I don't know if I'd call that a matter of IQ, maybe, but for me I remember SS as the finished product.
@@alvindavis4158 Yeah. I remember reading that he had an unusually large heart and that JC Chavez had an abnormally thick skull. Sometimes people go their entire lives without finding anything that they're good at, these guys found EXACTLY what they were supposed to be doing.
@@alvindavis4158 lol, thank you Alvin! Ricardo Lopez is difficult to place because of the quality of his opposition. Off the top of my head, the only fighter he fought that REALLY gets credit is Rosendo Alvarez, and really the only reason (or the biggest reason I should say), that he gets that credit is because he had a draw with Lopez and dropped him and a lot of people thought that he won. And Lopez never went up to fight Gonzalez and Carbajal in his day. When he did go up, either those guys were gone or he just didn't fight them. I think he fought Will Grigsby and the South African and called it a day. Something like that. But if I go by just what I saw, the 'eye test'. You could put them in any order that you want, in terms of non active fighters, it's Chavez, it's Sanchez and it's Ricardo Lopez. I'd put him that high based on what I SAW from him. I think he beats Chiquita Gonzalez and Michael Carbajal in good fights, but we'll never know, obviously. But Lopez doesn't have the resume that guys like... Barrera, Morales, Marquez and Olivares..... so if you want to put them over him, I understand that.
@@alvindavis4158 Barrera was like he had the answers against Hamed. He already knew what he was going to do - literally ducking before he even threw the punch. Ducking out of the way of those crazy uppercuts Hamed had because he knew the exact angle they were coming at. If they fought 10 times, maybe Hamed lands something crazy and wins once, but I'd pick Barrera every time. Nice talking to you Alvin.
This era of middleweights was phanominal I was just a baby but watching this and seeing a prime James tony and experience Macellem brings smile to my face 🙂
I remember watching this fight live on PPV with Marvin Hagler commentating. McCallum gave up his title belt to make the fight happen therefore, in my mind it was a unification bout. I knew McCallum was tough as hell and should never be underestimated yet Toney had everything going for him after knocking out Michael Nunn and I remember saying he is nuts for going after McCallum with his experience. This fight was so close, and a draw was justified. I had McCallum outboxing toney for the most part but Toney took over rounds with his killer instinct and at times really threatened to Knock McCallum out. Toney fought like he didn't know how to lose, and McCallum fought in a way that was to teach the upstart about the sweet science. Great fight!
Both of them are indeed very very good. Tough they are. Toney scored more stronger hits, Mc did more jabbing and sometimes hard hits. Kudos to the two of them. I enjoyed really in watching them. . .
*Philly shell, he was probably overthinking the term and forgot all together, dude had close to 70 fights in his career, he was bound to forget some shit lol.
It's called a shoulder roll not the philly shoulder roll non philly fighters were using it before the philly shell was even a thing benton popularised the philly shell in the 40s and 50s shoulder rolls were used as early as the late 1910s maybe even before by fighters that never went to philly a day in there lives Hagler knows what he's talking about
@@arandomusername-ez9sdit's a different between using a shoulder roll from time to time and creating a style that involves constant use of the shoulder roll are two different things. McCallum used the shoulder roll at times but that wasn't his primary form of defense.
@renzopeterson153 it's still not called the philly shoulder roll you're talking about the philly shell not shoulder rolls it'd be like calling a roll counter the dempsey roll counter just because the roll counter was popularised by Jack dempsey the dempsey roll is different to a roll counter the latter wasnt made by dempsey.
Even if James Toney was around his prime during Canelo's time he still wouldn't have destroyed Canelo. Because Canelo would have cherry picked around him.
Doesn't get much better than this....excellent skills,excellent conditioning,excellent pace,excellent power,body punches,both never been stopped ,excellent chins,good speed,excellent trainers wow,wow,wow!!
This was boxing back then, james Toney 12 yrs younger, M McCallum was a tough man, he was no walk in the park period.James Toney was a young up and coming great young fighter, 35 yr old M McCullum, i'm not going anywhere, i'll be here all 36 minutes, what a fight.
Great Fight, BUT....Reverse the ages. Put McCallum in at 23, and Toney at 35. McCallum wins easily. McCallum is one of the most underrated fighters in his weight class I've ever seen. I'm not a huge fan of either. McCallum knew his best weight was 154, and he was smart to stay at that weight for most of his career
A 35 year old Toney was destroying Jirov at cruiser and holyfield and John Ruiz at heavyweight! To go from middle to heavy is unbelievable. McCallum played it safe most his career and stuck around at light middle or middle.
@@1RoamingwolfI saw it the exact same way, good fight but McCallum 100% lost, I gave Toney even more rounds than that. Seemed to me like everyone else commentating agreed as well, including Hagler.
Mike was known as the "Body Snatcher", and he started working the body in round seven. In my opinion most fans don't give enough credit to bodywork and that with the busier jab evened up Toney's big right. It's boxing not UFC . I had McCallum winning.
Yup.. I think Toney would have done better if he'd stayed down at 160 or 175 at a max for his career .. instead of getting fat and fighting at the heavier weights. I was suprised that he fought as good as he did at the heavyweight division.. I guess his good boxing and defense skills helped him at any weight..
13:34 mark Trump sitting along side a blond woman in black. Could be his wife. Toney strong to the end, yet the accuracy was less in the late rounds. McCallum a lot more touches throughout the fight, yet Toney weighed in with the most heavy blows - by far. Mike made the fight with the jabbing and proximity. Toney didn't have to go and find him, he was there jabbing his way to points. That left at around 1:20 of the last round rocked Mike to the bone, yet he managed to keep his balance and slipped a few, yet continued to toke more punishment. Both on fumes, but Toney's best round for sure. I feel a draw is in order. Can't give it Toney, wasn't busy enough and can't give to Mike either, because he didn't do enough to beat Toney
A great fight between two elite level fighters who were boxing technicians..... this was not a controversial decision.... I don't think that macallum did enough to get the decision and I don't think that Toney deserved to lose.....a draw was a good result for both fighters...
Commentary is typically biased. Toney was doing well but he missed a lot where the idiot commentators screamed how he’s landing rights. He landed plenty yet McCallum was a deceiving boxer with a great defensive skillsets. He rolls and pulls just enough that many punches are only glancing. Mike was much busier the whole fight constantly throwing double even triple jabs yet the lip service was all about Toney’s big rights. Marvin was lucky McCallum was a light middleweight. 10th round and the idiots once again exaggerate Toney’s barrage of misses but talk like he’s landing. No mention of Mike out striking him once again. Toney was landing well but not as stated by the idiots. Don’t get me wrong I love Toney to this day, he’s one bad man. One of my favorites all time. But Mr. McCallum was a special fighter. Dodged by several boxers of his day even when he was past his prime as he is here. 35 vs. 23 yet Mike took everything Toney landed and went the distance. In his prime Mike was a destroyer.
I really enjoyed watching 👀 this boxing fight (Toney (23) vs McCullum (35)). Give credit to the referee he was jumping and moving around in that ring throughout the whole fight. In the very first round I really thought Mike McCullum owed James Toney some money 💰 🤑 💸💲 💵 the way he started throwing powerful powerful punches 👊 👊 🤜 🤛 ✊️ 👊 ✊️ 🤛 🤜 from the start. This definitely could've been the fight of that year.
mcCallum a great fighter Toney too, this fight is one of the most beautiful technically, defensively and tactically, both of them showed great ring IQ and skills
He also got turned completely around three times and was taking up to twelve unanswered punches several times. People don't credit body shots, but you have to when the guys moniker is " body snatcher"
I had james Toney winning this fight 116 -112 he was throwing and landing the harder punches and had Mike McMullen hurt a few times this was a great fight skill wise but I think Mike McMullen didn't have enough on his punches to hurt james Toney
Toney had too many wild punches that had no chance, but looked good. Body punchers don't get enough credit, but McCallum started cranking them up in the seventh
@@outspoken117so what if toney had too many wild punches he still landed the biggest and hardest punch in this fight toney right hand keep landing hard on mccallum, the decision should’ve given to toney in this fight
Both are great fighters. In how they are able to move when hooks are coming down on their body or head. They just move with the punch and slip that punch . Perfect timing . I must agree with the judges. It was a draw. Boxer Tony was behind on the score cards, He redeemed his self. There should be a re-match . I don't know if they ever had a re-match.
James Toney or the black Marlon Brando as I call him (look at that face) put on a clinic here against a guy in Mike McCallum who.... put on a clinic here! This might be one of the most fascinating fights of all time!!! 5:25 is a beautiful few seconds but that's just one of a hundred amazing sequences of counters and step offs and counters to the counters of the counters and the lead straight right then hook and counter uppercut.... This is fantastic for real fans of the art!!
Great fight. McCallum was one tough guy for 30 years old and in there with a prime MW Toney. I believe Toney won pretty damn convincingly tho. Hagler commentating dropping some good knowledge.
I remember watching it live and I thought Toney won. Mike was an alltime great although I didnt like him for a while because he beat my favorite fighter Donald Curry! But this was one fight I think he legitimately lost.
@@louduva9849 I'd have to rewatch it since my memory is a little hazy but I remember McCallum being the more accurate puncher and the more defensively responsible fighter. That's why I have him winning that one.
Except for Hagler the commentators were so biased against McCallum it was unbelievable. Among other deliberate ugliness that they have mentioned furing the bout how could they say that James won rounds 9, 10, & 11 . When we it was so obvious for others watched the fight to see Tony loosing all three , he Tony was missing so mush if his shots of desperatiin while being countered by Mike . This disappointment the gave for mike not having a history of knocking out opponents in the division showed that they were not prepared to accept that Macallum could out box Tony and get the fight sadly and so did two of the Judges . They ascwell as most people who followed bixing that Mike was not the kind of fighter so it should not have been expected . Now lets go back and look at Toney's face from the 8th round onwords he knew he was loosing the fight and at the 10th he knew he had lost the fight if he didnt knock out Mike in the 11th. and he failed at this . Look at Tony's wild punches at the beginning of the 11th this showed how he felt about his chances of winning they were now very slim for the fight was not to have gone this far he was as tired as Mike and he was nuch younger , he Toneyv had to get this knock down, if not the knockout . We see Tony missing so much in the 12th round . Macallum didn't do much in the round not because he was exhausted but also because Tony was not fighting any more but was swinging desperately trying get Mike to the floor Toney lost it was too obvious . I guess Hagler must have been embarrassed to have sat there with these insult to boxing calling themselves professional commentators.
There is no doubt that the commentary stinks . However Marvin was more on cue . Let us be fair. A very close fight l think a draw was perhaps the best decision. Mike won the secong one tho imo.
Whomp whomp🤣🤣 toney won the fight so what if he was missing wild with his punch toney punches landed big and harden than mccallum pitter patter punch and toney right hand landed hard on mccallum toney should’ve taken the decision in this fight, the second fight I can see mccallum winning that fight with those pitter patter punch but the judges really messed up with those score card.
Prime Body snatcher takes out Toney easy. Mike one of the most under appreciated boxer ever. He was Jamaican and they never made him big like Hagler and Hearns.
@@Thunderdomebx Meh...Iran Barkley that Toney beat was beaten so many😂 even before Tony beat him. Please. He was beat up by Nigel Behn, Duran, wimpy boy Nunn just to name afew. Dont get me wrong, I like Toney is one the finest no doubt.
@@mildred1217 noone beat Iran like Toney did, made him look like a complete novice, also McCallum stuck around at his natural weight most of his career playing it safe, Toney moved up all the way to heavyweight and continued whooping ass.
When young people look at basketball players from the 80’s and say they couldn’t play with todays players, they would have to make the exact opposite assessment when watching fights like this from these two. No fighter today has this elite level of skill. No fighter today could compete with either of these two.
Nothing controversial about this tremendous close fight. Both guys put so much in, I had it to Toney by a round, but if it went the other way I would have had no complaints. As it was a solid draw.
This says James was 5 11 which was believable because it goes along with his 75 inch reach. He was listed as 5 9 towards the end if his career. Im guessing its because he gained so much weight? And how great of a coach was Bill Miller.
How can this fight be a draw, or even a split decision. James Toney won outright and the referee nearly stopped it in the last second of the 12th round because McCallum was in such bad shape, taking damaging punishment
@@ohlangeni My point is that casuals like you need to learn to keep those mouths shut, an inexperienced mouth could get the wrong soap treatment, get better knowledge, think before you speak, and maybe perhaps stereotypes don't spread, just like how it did with Mayweather? Alright honey buns?
Damn I thought the way Toney finished the fight he won but great fight the parrying the jabs, slips , great jabs , great right hands . McCollum had more iq but tank wasn’t a good as Toneys. Toney landed harder right hands but mcculum was throwing them right back . Toney finished the fight way better tho
In my opinion, this fight is quite possibly the greatest display of elite level ring IQ and technical skills in boxing history - put on by two of the most complete boxers I have ever seen. How I wish we got to see McCallum fight the Four Kings, maybe then he would have got the flowers he deserved. James Toney is one of the most naturally gifted fighters ever. Both legends of the sport!
He didn't get the 4 kings, but he had common opponents with 3 of the 4 and he ended up fighting: Jackson, Watson, Toney and Roy.
This,I agree Mike was underrated and they never would give him the big fights.Got to give Toney props for taking on a fight like this early in his career..
@@jameshampton6053 Toney fought Roy Jones, Mike McCallum, and Michael Nunn early in his career 🤯 today’s fighters would never
Unfortunately Toney turned into a tub of lard
By far
This fight is the perfect combination of technical skill and aggression.
McCallum was extremely underrated, by the public anyway! Tremendous fighter.
This man fought Julian Jackson and won? Am i correct? Truly underrated.
@@TheMrSatyricon
Knocked him out 2nd round
My favorite fighter after Duran
My favourite fight and watched it dozens of times for the mastery of the sweet but brutal science of boxing..From when I watched this when it happened to now I’ve always had Toney edging it, the fight was even up until the last round where Toney was the more affective aggressor. It’s only in the slow motion moments that you appreciate how subtle the boxing is, McCallum with his busier jab and body punches and Toney with his left hooks (Which I believe won him the fight, McCallums swelling under his right eye was evidence of this) and big right hands. James Toney is one of my favourites (Along with Hearns, Chavez, Hagler and Sanchez) from when I started watching boxing form the early eighties. But I’ve always admired Mike McCallum because he was a real throwback to the golden era. The amazing achievement is that he is 35 years old in this fight and must of had to boil down a bit to make weight (Toney was always notorious for this) yet his conditioning was unbelievable. The great thing is they fought two more times, their styles complemented each other so their fights were always going to be close and controversial. Many Thanks🥊
There is also something to be said about being ringside, hearing and seeing the punches that are landed. James had power that starched cruiserweights, seems like Toney's power was on different level than Mike's. Mike took it like a freaking champ though, some of those punches would at least stagger even good fighters at higher weights, but he came back after every exchange like a warrior. Looking back on this fight makes their performances even that much better.
Even though I had Toney by a slim margin, nobody can be disappointed by that result. Two ATG legends that offered one of the best fights of the 90s !
Fun fact: Donald Trump was in this fight as a audience. Peep 7:15 :)
@@GorenGuang sitting next to Jackie Kallen, JT's manager at that time.
Yeah,this fight is good enough to be a draw no matter the results.
One of the greatest skilled fights you'll ever see by both fighters, two legends of the game. McCallum vs Toney ended up having 3 fights. Tony in his prime at 23 & McCallum at 35 in the end of his career & put on a masterclass from Rd 1 to 12.
Age helped Mike and hurt Toney here
This is the type of fight where it’s so engrossing that you don’t notice time going by.
Think we can say that as Toneys physique/training faded his skill grew. Wish they worked in harmony longer. My top 3 fav fighters.
He's my favorite fighter. James was a 200lbs running back in high school, got a scholarship to play football, got hurt, then decided to be a boxer. They melted him down to fight at middleweight, he struggled to make weight in his first fights, let alone keeping him at that weight. Roy Jones Jr said after his fight with James, that Toney should have went up to cruiserweight and I agree. James could have been a bit more disciplined, but he wasn't a natural middle.
LMAO! I spoke to him once. He said that as the money came, it was harder to stay hungry and disciplined. And then, he had the belief in himself that nobody could beat him no matter what shape he was in. He said he didn't train hard for the Jones fight because he didn't believe that Roys skill level could match his, but he paid for it. Toney looked very good as a cruiserweight
@@mdmcdd1117 Roy's top attribute wasn't skill, he was probably the best athlete that ever put on gloves. That fighting rooster style coming at you with the speed of a lightweight was pretty unbeatable when Roy was at his physical peak, Toney would've had to had been in top condition.
@@JuggoJuggo He said he begged Roy for rematches over the years from 168lbs-200lbs but Roy wouldn't grant him a rematch.
Have a hard time finding a fight that featured more actual SKILL than this one. I thought Toney won, but he's my favorite fighter of all time, so I am definitely biased.
@@alvindavis4158 Whoever designed Salvador Sanchez was done. They gave him absolutely everything they needed to as a fighter. because he could do absolutely everything and he had another GEAR when he needed it. If there wasn't separation between him and his opponent, he created it. I don't know if I'd call that a matter of IQ, maybe, but for me I remember SS as the finished product.
@@alvindavis4158 Yeah. I remember reading that he had an unusually large heart and that JC Chavez had an abnormally thick skull. Sometimes people go their entire lives without finding anything that they're good at, these guys found EXACTLY what they were supposed to be doing.
@@alvindavis4158 lol, thank you Alvin! Ricardo Lopez is difficult to place because of the quality of his opposition. Off the top of my head, the only fighter he fought that REALLY gets credit is Rosendo Alvarez, and really the only reason (or the biggest reason I should say), that he gets that credit is because he had a draw with Lopez and dropped him and a lot of people thought that he won. And Lopez never went up to fight Gonzalez and Carbajal in his day. When he did go up, either those guys were gone or he just didn't fight them. I think he fought Will Grigsby and the South African and called it a day. Something like that. But if I go by just what I saw, the 'eye test'. You could put them in any order that you want, in terms of non active fighters, it's Chavez, it's Sanchez and it's Ricardo Lopez. I'd put him that high based on what I SAW from him. I think he beats Chiquita Gonzalez and Michael Carbajal in good fights, but we'll never know, obviously. But Lopez doesn't have the resume that guys like... Barrera, Morales, Marquez and Olivares..... so if you want to put them over him, I understand that.
@@alvindavis4158 Barrera was like he had the answers against Hamed. He already knew what he was going to do - literally ducking before he even threw the punch. Ducking out of the way of those crazy uppercuts Hamed had because he knew the exact angle they were coming at. If they fought 10 times, maybe Hamed lands something crazy and wins once, but I'd pick Barrera every time. Nice talking to you Alvin.
@@LucieOneI have a question what was the general opinion of Roy jones jr before and after tarver 2? Like all time ranking
This era of middleweights was phanominal I was just a baby but watching this and seeing a prime James tony and experience Macellem brings smile to my face 🙂
Donald in the cut chillin.
Trump has always been right in the middle of things.
Best technical fight in the history of boxing, ever.
The skill between these guys was top notch
Yeah, these 2 middleweights showed more skills in one fight than Canelo Alvarez showed in his entire career.
I remember watching this fight live on PPV with Marvin Hagler commentating. McCallum gave up his title belt to make the fight happen therefore, in my mind it was a unification bout. I knew McCallum was tough as hell and should never be underestimated yet Toney had everything going for him after knocking out Michael Nunn and I remember saying he is nuts for going after McCallum with his experience. This fight was so close, and a draw was justified. I had McCallum outboxing toney for the most part but Toney took over rounds with his killer instinct and at times really threatened to Knock McCallum out. Toney fought like he didn't know how to lose, and McCallum fought in a way that was to teach the upstart about the sweet science. Great fight!
My only way to score the fight : GREAT !
This is a must watch for all boxing students. This matche goes far beyond boxing 101, this is as good as it gets.
Tony won, but the draw isn’t shocking. Great fight between 2 greats 🥊
McCallum won the second
@@renzopeterson153 god knows how he did not get that one.
@@incredibleXMan yessir, out landed Toney again, and out worked him while doing body work the second time around.
the draw is normal for me,hard to score who's better...
Both of them are indeed very very good. Tough they are. Toney scored more stronger hits, Mc did more jabbing and sometimes hard hits.
Kudos to the two of them.
I enjoyed really in watching them. . .
Marv, I know you're no longer here, but you fought enough Philly fighters to know that it is called the Philly Shoulder Roll.
*Philly shell, he was probably overthinking the term and forgot all together, dude had close to 70 fights in his career, he was bound to forget some shit lol.
It's called a shoulder roll not the philly shoulder roll non philly fighters were using it before the philly shell was even a thing benton popularised the philly shell in the 40s and 50s shoulder rolls were used as early as the late 1910s maybe even before by fighters that never went to philly a day in there lives Hagler knows what he's talking about
@@arandomusername-ez9sdit's a different between using a shoulder roll from time to time and creating a style that involves constant use of the shoulder roll are two different things. McCallum used the shoulder roll at times but that wasn't his primary form of defense.
@renzopeterson153 it's still not called the philly shoulder roll you're talking about the philly shell not shoulder rolls it'd be like calling a roll counter the dempsey roll counter just because the roll counter was popularised by Jack dempsey the dempsey roll is different to a roll counter the latter wasnt made by dempsey.
Both great fighters imagine if mccallum was 10 years younger in this fight 😮
@@ScorpionF1RE_USA
true but mcallum was just as good people have forgotten about how good he was and the casuals have never heard of him
He would have won😠
@@GrahamPick-jw1lfMy favorite fighter along with Duran and Hawkins.
Beautiful! Top class boxing!
Thanks for the video, TOP RANK BOXING
Good fight and Marvelous on the commentary. What's not to like
That it wasn't 15 rounds that's about it
R.I.P. to the late Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
The highest skilled contest in the history of sports.
Chiseled James Toney is a mythical fighter I never thought I'd see
I think Toney - McCallum 1 won Toney but judges give draw.... And Toney -McCallum 2 was draw but judges give Toney win. I don't understand them.
These dudes would destroy canelo
Even if James Toney was around his prime during Canelo's time he still wouldn't have destroyed Canelo. Because Canelo would have cherry picked around him.
@@kobiecamp1134do you see those is jabs canelo could never and canelo is an inside fighter
1000% fact
no shit
Doesn't get much better than this....excellent skills,excellent conditioning,excellent pace,excellent power,body punches,both never been stopped ,excellent chins,good speed,excellent trainers wow,wow,wow!!
Beautiful beautiful boxing. I can watch this a billion times.
This was boxing back then, james Toney 12 yrs younger, M McCallum was a tough man, he was no walk in the park period.James Toney was a young up and coming great young fighter, 35 yr old M McCullum, i'm not going anywhere, i'll be here all 36 minutes, what a fight.
Old man Mike McCallum was so good
Great Fight, BUT....Reverse the ages. Put McCallum in at 23, and Toney at 35. McCallum wins easily. McCallum is one of the most underrated fighters in his weight class I've ever seen. I'm not a huge fan of either. McCallum knew his best weight was 154, and he was smart to stay at that weight for most of his career
A 35 year old Toney was destroying Jirov at cruiser and holyfield and John Ruiz at heavyweight! To go from middle to heavy is unbelievable. McCallum played it safe most his career and stuck around at light middle or middle.
At 23 McCallum hadn't even turned pro yet and at 35 Toney was fighter of the year, so couldbt disagree more
Personally had it 116-112 Toney
Can even see a draw, maybe, but McCallum winning the fight? nah no way.
thats because you dont know jack about scoring a fight, nor boxing itself
@@1RoamingwolfI saw it the exact same way, good fight but McCallum 100% lost, I gave Toney even more rounds than that. Seemed to me like everyone else commentating agreed as well, including Hagler.
Absolutely I had Toney winning 10 rounds, only lost round 1 and 9.@@johnthomas7070
Mike was known as the "Body Snatcher", and he started working the body in round seven. In my opinion most fans don't give enough credit to bodywork and that with the busier jab evened up Toney's big right. It's boxing not UFC . I had McCallum winning.
I can tell you never boxed before@@1Roamingwolf
Watching this in 2023, I can't wrap my head around Toney being so slim....
Yup.. I think Toney would have done better if he'd stayed down at 160 or 175 at a max for his career .. instead of getting fat and fighting at the heavier weights. I was suprised that he fought as good as he did at the heavyweight division.. I guess his good boxing and defense skills helped him at any weight..
@@howlingwolf125y And he did end up beating, arguably (but likely), the best cruiserweight at the time in Jirov when he was up there.
@@howlingwolf125yHell yeah his skills helped him because he beat Evander Holyfield's azz.
Bill Miller vs Eddie Futch
Legendary
That commentators with Hagler were very bias. Hagler kept it unbiased. I say win for Toney or a draw
Great, competitive fight between two high level skilled fighters.
I love how you neve see Smoger
3:14
Trump with the white rope across his eyes.
Remember the age difference. McCallum is 11 1/2 years older.
Yeah, we noticed.
Great Fight by two Master craftsmen. McCallum is one of my favorites and was very avoided. Mike was 35 years old, past his prime and fought this well.
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What year was this fight?
Too close to call but I think a younger body snatcher (McCallum) beats Toney by UD
McCallum was still prime here. Don't make excuses.
Both are great.
@@louduva9849 Both.
@@louduva9849 Cm’n dude McCallum prime was in the late 80’s
@@yvans. Prime is a time period, not a time point. This is only 1991.
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Y’all don’t see Donald trump in the audience 😂
Both of these guys a fighting genius’s
13:34 mark Trump sitting along side a blond woman in black. Could be his wife. Toney strong to the end, yet the accuracy was less in the late rounds. McCallum a lot more touches throughout the fight, yet Toney weighed in with the most heavy blows - by far. Mike made the fight with the jabbing and proximity. Toney didn't have to go and find him, he was there jabbing his way to points. That left at around 1:20 of the last round rocked Mike to the bone, yet he managed to keep his balance and slipped a few, yet continued to toke more punishment. Both on fumes, but Toney's best round for sure. I feel a draw is in order. Can't give it Toney, wasn't busy enough and can't give to Mike either, because he didn't do enough to beat Toney
Giving away 12 years ...come on man the body snatcher was off the scale .....
A great fight between two elite level fighters who were boxing technicians..... this was not a controversial decision.... I don't think that macallum did enough to get the decision and I don't think that Toney deserved to lose.....a draw was a good result for both fighters...
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Commentary is typically biased. Toney was doing well but he missed a lot where the idiot commentators screamed how he’s landing rights. He landed plenty yet McCallum was a deceiving boxer with a great defensive skillsets. He rolls and pulls just enough that many punches are only glancing. Mike was much busier the whole fight constantly throwing double even triple jabs yet the lip service was all about Toney’s big rights. Marvin was lucky McCallum was a light middleweight. 10th round and the idiots once again exaggerate Toney’s barrage of misses but talk like he’s landing. No mention of Mike out striking him once again. Toney was landing well but not as stated by the idiots. Don’t get me wrong I love Toney to this day, he’s one bad man. One of my favorites all time. But Mr. McCallum was a special fighter. Dodged by several boxers of his day even when he was past his prime as he is here. 35 vs. 23 yet Mike took everything Toney landed and went the distance. In his prime Mike was a destroyer.
My does mccallum look like Bill Cosby in that picture at the beginning
Great fight! James Toney should have gotten the nod. Close fight though.
なんだこの試合、現代レベルでも最高峰な試合やん
Buffer’s hair is on point
the defense of this fight is genius
Great fight.
I really enjoyed watching 👀 this boxing fight (Toney (23) vs McCullum (35)). Give credit to the referee he was jumping and moving around in that ring throughout the whole fight. In the very first round I really thought Mike McCullum owed James Toney some money 💰 🤑 💸💲 💵 the way he started throwing powerful powerful punches 👊 👊 🤜 🤛 ✊️ 👊 ✊️ 🤛 🤜 from the start. This definitely could've been the fight of that year.
These 2 fighters are great at
The sweat science what
Skill this is where you see
The skill level of chess boxing
Is apparent like no other sport
mcCallum a great fighter Toney too, this fight is one of the most beautiful technically, defensively and tactically, both of them showed great ring IQ and skills
I think it should have been scored for Toney by a split decision. He edged many of those rounds.
He also got turned completely around three times and was taking up to twelve unanswered punches several times. People don't credit body shots, but you have to when the guys moniker is " body snatcher"
I got Toney winning by 3 points, but anyways that was one of the best fights I've ever watched
I had james Toney winning this fight 116 -112 he was throwing and landing the harder punches and had Mike McMullen hurt a few times this was a great fight skill wise but I think Mike McMullen didn't have enough on his punches to hurt james Toney
Toney had too many wild punches that had no chance, but looked good. Body punchers don't get enough credit, but McCallum started cranking them up in the seventh
@@outspoken117so what if toney had too many wild punches he still landed the biggest and hardest punch in this fight toney right hand keep landing hard on mccallum, the decision should’ve given to toney in this fight
Both are great fighters. In how they are able to move when hooks are coming down on their body or head. They just move with the punch and slip that punch . Perfect timing . I must agree with the judges. It was a draw. Boxer Tony was behind on the score cards, He redeemed his self. There should be a re-match . I don't know if they ever had a re-match.
They had two rematches, both worth watching.
This is actually the greatest fight of all time
3:19 is that trump?
certainly is..... i was wondering who he's with (she looks not unlike JT's manager at the time, Jackie Kallan.... but isn't her of course)
That's him doing his thing.
high level boxing on display
Toney won!
James Toney or the black Marlon Brando as I call him (look at that face) put on a clinic here against a guy in Mike McCallum who.... put on a clinic here! This might be one of the most fascinating fights of all time!!! 5:25 is a beautiful few seconds but that's just one of a hundred amazing sequences of counters and step offs and counters to the counters of the counters and the lead straight right then hook and counter uppercut.... This is fantastic for real fans of the art!!
Great high iq fight from both fighters. Toney was landing vicious right hands but McCallum was having a great pace. Toney won a close one here imo.
Great fight. McCallum was one tough guy for 30 years old and in there with a prime MW Toney. I believe Toney won pretty damn convincingly tho. Hagler commentating dropping some good knowledge.
Toney boxed better half knocked out than most fully conscious. McCallum also was a worthy dancing partner for any top fighter.
Whoa. This was a good fight .
I remember watching it live and I thought Toney won. Mike was an alltime great although I didnt like him for a while because he beat my favorite fighter Donald Curry! But this was one fight I think he legitimately lost.
Toney took this one, McCallum took the second imo.
@@callumwarren3342 McCallum did even less in the second fight.
@@louduva9849 🛑, and Toney did even less there, Mike still out landed Toney.
@@louduva9849 I'd have to rewatch it since my memory is a little hazy but I remember McCallum being the more accurate puncher and the more defensively responsible fighter. That's why I have him winning that one.
renzopatterson153 outlanded toney with weak piter pater punches. Toney landed the cleaner more effective punches in that fight just like this one.
I am Now a fan of James lights -Out Tony 👍🏿😀👍🏿
Not a fan of McCallum …. He was just as great as any of the best
I remember this fight like it was yesterday 🥊 Lights out Toney vs The Body snatcher McCallum 🥊
Great fight! Toney definitely won, the guy at the end kinda pissed me off to hear 🤣
Amazing fight în my opinion Tony win the fight💥👀🤪
Toney did enough to win imo.
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Except for Hagler the commentators were so biased against McCallum it was unbelievable. Among other deliberate ugliness that they have mentioned furing the bout how could they say that James won rounds 9, 10, & 11 . When we it was so obvious for others watched the fight to see Tony loosing all three , he Tony was missing so mush if his shots of desperatiin while being countered by Mike . This disappointment the gave for mike not having a history of knocking out opponents in the division showed that they were not prepared to accept that Macallum could out box Tony and get the fight sadly and so did two of the Judges .
They ascwell as most people who followed bixing that Mike was not the kind of fighter so it should not have been expected .
Now lets go back and look at Toney's face from the 8th round onwords he knew he was loosing the fight and at the 10th he knew he had lost the fight if he didnt knock out Mike in the 11th. and he failed at this .
Look at Tony's wild punches at the beginning of the 11th this showed how he felt about his chances of winning they were now very slim for the fight was not to have gone this far he was as tired as Mike and he was nuch younger , he Toneyv had to get this knock down, if not the knockout . We see Tony missing so much in the 12th round . Macallum didn't do much in the round not because he was exhausted but also because Tony was not fighting any more but was swinging desperately trying get Mike to the floor Toney lost it was too obvious .
I guess Hagler must have been embarrassed to have sat there with these insult to boxing calling themselves professional commentators.
It’s Joe Goossen, what do you expect 😂
There is no doubt that the commentary stinks . However Marvin was more on cue . Let us be fair. A very close fight l think a draw was perhaps the best decision. Mike won the secong one tho imo.
Whomp whomp🤣🤣 toney won the fight so what if he was missing wild with his punch toney punches landed big and harden than mccallum pitter patter punch and toney right hand landed hard on mccallum toney should’ve taken the decision in this fight, the second fight I can see mccallum winning that fight with those pitter patter punch but the judges really messed up with those score card.
The draw was unfair fir Toney. He deserved the victory
Prime Body snatcher takes out Toney easy. Mike one of the most under appreciated boxer ever. He was Jamaican and they never made him big like Hagler and Hearns.
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The Toney that beat Iran Barkley would've beat any version of McCallum. He was in the matrix that night.
@@Thunderdomebx Meh...Iran Barkley that Toney beat was beaten so many😂 even before Tony beat him. Please. He was beat up by Nigel Behn, Duran, wimpy boy Nunn just to name afew. Dont get me wrong, I like Toney is one the finest no doubt.
@@mildred1217 noone beat Iran like Toney did, made him look like a complete novice, also McCallum stuck around at his natural weight most of his career playing it safe, Toney moved up all the way to heavyweight and continued whooping ass.
@@Thunderdomebx tell me what happened to Prime Toney against Roy Jones.
HUGE ROBBERY, Tony should've won. I only saw McCallum winning round 1 and 9.
Definitely a draw, I had it 6 rounds each
Toney has delivered more hard punches! McCallum with plenty of jabs & jabs.
Great fight 7-5 Toney imo
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When young people look at basketball players from the 80’s and say they couldn’t play with todays players, they would have to make the exact opposite assessment when watching fights like this from these two. No fighter today has this elite level of skill. No fighter today could compete with either of these two.
Yeah, if Canelo fought James Toney at any weight while James Toney was active he would have lose.
TEO NEEDS TO STUDY TONEY CLOSELY
Don't really see the controversy, a lot of close rounds, a draw seems about right.
5:32 One thing I don’t miss, when commentators acted like they were on the radio and people couldn’t see what was really going on in the ring.
Nothing controversial about this tremendous close fight. Both guys put so much in, I had it to Toney by a round, but if it went the other way I would have had no complaints. As it was a solid draw.
Toney should win by split dec.he wins the 12 round
SD? Do you have multiple personality disorder?
James Toney was handed several gift decisions when he was undefeated as the boxing powers wanted to keep his record intact !!!###
This says James was 5 11 which was believable because it goes along with his 75 inch reach. He was listed as 5 9 towards the end if his career. Im guessing its because he gained so much weight? And how great of a coach was Bill Miller.
Toney der Klare Sieger
da sitzen die Punkte
Richter und sind voll von der Rolle!!
How can this fight be a draw, or even a split decision. James Toney won outright and the referee nearly stopped it in the last second of the 12th round because McCallum was in such bad shape, taking damaging punishment
You just started watching boxing last month 😅
@@GorenGuang Assuming you are correct, what is your point?
@@ohlangeni My point is that casuals like you need to learn to keep those mouths shut, an inexperienced mouth could get the wrong soap treatment, get better knowledge, think before you speak, and maybe perhaps stereotypes don't spread, just like how it did with Mayweather? Alright honey buns?
@@GorenGuangYou sound like a whiny kid. You clearly don’t box stop lying
Toney fought any and everybody! Didn't duck no one.
Toney listed at 5ft 11.5.......he's actually around 5 ft 9
Damn I thought the way Toney finished the fight he won but great fight the parrying the jabs, slips , great jabs , great right hands . McCollum had more iq but tank wasn’t a good as Toneys. Toney landed harder right hands but mcculum was throwing them right back . Toney finished the fight way better tho
I remembered that fight clearly "youthfulness" beat McCallum.