CONTROVERSIAL BOXING DECISIONS FREE FIGHT | James Toney vs Mike McCallum 1 | U Score the Fight

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  • We open up the vault to bring you this controversial #boxing decision free fight between #jamestoney and Mike McCallum. The first fight ended up in a draw. #freefight
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  • @lyelt
    @lyelt ปีที่แล้ว +254

    In my opinion, this fight is quite possibly the greatest display of elite level ring IQ and technical skills in boxing history - put on by two of the most complete boxers I have ever seen. How I wish we got to see McCallum fight the Four Kings, maybe then he would have got the flowers he deserved. James Toney is one of the most naturally gifted fighters ever. Both legends of the sport!

    • @renzopeterson153
      @renzopeterson153 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He didn't get the 4 kings, but he had common opponents with 3 of the 4 and he ended up fighting: Jackson, Watson, Toney and Roy.

    • @jameshampton6053
      @jameshampton6053 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This,I agree Mike was underrated and they never would give him the big fights.Got to give Toney props for taking on a fight like this early in his career..

    • @alod247
      @alod247 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@jameshampton6053 Toney fought Roy Jones, Mike McCallum, and Michael Nunn early in his career 🤯 today’s fighters would never

    • @normandoughty8737
      @normandoughty8737 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Unfortunately Toney turned into a tub of lard

    • @briansummersbriansummers2052
      @briansummersbriansummers2052 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      By far

  • @zabaleta66
    @zabaleta66 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    McCallum was extremely underrated, by the public anyway! Tremendous fighter.

    • @TheMrSatyricon
      @TheMrSatyricon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This man fought Julian Jackson and won? Am i correct? Truly underrated.

    • @Superwavy
      @Superwavy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@TheMrSatyricon
      Knocked him out 2nd round

    • @outspoken117
      @outspoken117 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My favorite fighter after Duran

  • @conanarthur4358
    @conanarthur4358 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Even though I had Toney by a slim margin, nobody can be disappointed by that result. Two ATG legends that offered one of the best fights of the 90s !

    • @GorenGuang
      @GorenGuang 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Fun fact: Donald Trump was in this fight as a audience. Peep 7:15 :)

    • @jiji1946
      @jiji1946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GorenGuang sitting next to Jackie Kallen, JT's manager at that time.

    • @TheNeorch
      @TheNeorch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah,this fight is good enough to be a draw no matter the results.

  • @mikeaaron2819
    @mikeaaron2819 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is the type of fight where it’s so engrossing that you don’t notice time going by.

  • @toledojack88
    @toledojack88 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    This fight is the perfect combination of technical skill and aggression.

  • @brettpaterson8042
    @brettpaterson8042 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My favourite fight and watched it dozens of times for the mastery of the sweet but brutal science of boxing..From when I watched this when it happened to now I’ve always had Toney edging it, the fight was even up until the last round where Toney was the more affective aggressor. It’s only in the slow motion moments that you appreciate how subtle the boxing is, McCallum with his busier jab and body punches and Toney with his left hooks (Which I believe won him the fight, McCallums swelling under his right eye was evidence of this) and big right hands. James Toney is one of my favourites (Along with Hearns, Chavez, Hagler and Sanchez) from when I started watching boxing form the early eighties. But I’ve always admired Mike McCallum because he was a real throwback to the golden era. The amazing achievement is that he is 35 years old in this fight and must of had to boil down a bit to make weight (Toney was always notorious for this) yet his conditioning was unbelievable. The great thing is they fought two more times, their styles complemented each other so their fights were always going to be close and controversial. Many Thanks🥊

    • @JuggoJuggo
      @JuggoJuggo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is also something to be said about being ringside, hearing and seeing the punches that are landed. James had power that starched cruiserweights, seems like Toney's power was on different level than Mike's. Mike took it like a freaking champ though, some of those punches would at least stagger even good fighters at higher weights, but he came back after every exchange like a warrior. Looking back on this fight makes their performances even that much better.

  • @CC-ff7ft
    @CC-ff7ft ปีที่แล้ว +48

    One of the greatest skilled fights you'll ever see by both fighters, two legends of the game. McCallum vs Toney ended up having 3 fights. Tony in his prime at 23 & McCallum at 35 in the end of his career & put on a masterclass from Rd 1 to 12.

    • @CaughtColdBoxing
      @CaughtColdBoxing 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Age helped Mike and hurt Toney here

  • @smoothk1925
    @smoothk1925 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Think we can say that as Toneys physique/training faded his skill grew. Wish they worked in harmony longer. My top 3 fav fighters.

    • @JuggoJuggo
      @JuggoJuggo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      He's my favorite fighter. James was a 200lbs running back in high school, got a scholarship to play football, got hurt, then decided to be a boxer. They melted him down to fight at middleweight, he struggled to make weight in his first fights, let alone keeping him at that weight. Roy Jones Jr said after his fight with James, that Toney should have went up to cruiserweight and I agree. James could have been a bit more disciplined, but he wasn't a natural middle.

    • @mdmcdd1117
      @mdmcdd1117 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      LMAO! I spoke to him once. He said that as the money came, it was harder to stay hungry and disciplined. And then, he had the belief in himself that nobody could beat him no matter what shape he was in. He said he didn't train hard for the Jones fight because he didn't believe that Roys skill level could match his, but he paid for it. Toney looked very good as a cruiserweight

    • @JuggoJuggo
      @JuggoJuggo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@mdmcdd1117 Roy's top attribute wasn't skill, he was probably the best athlete that ever put on gloves. That fighting rooster style coming at you with the speed of a lightweight was pretty unbeatable when Roy was at his physical peak, Toney would've had to had been in top condition.

    • @mdmcdd1117
      @mdmcdd1117 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@JuggoJuggo He said he begged Roy for rematches over the years from 168lbs-200lbs but Roy wouldn't grant him a rematch.

  • @bigmanfrank5708
    @bigmanfrank5708 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This era of middleweights was phanominal I was just a baby but watching this and seeing a prime James tony and experience Macellem brings smile to my face 🙂

  • @LucieOne
    @LucieOne ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Have a hard time finding a fight that featured more actual SKILL than this one. I thought Toney won, but he's my favorite fighter of all time, so I am definitely biased.

    • @LucieOne
      @LucieOne ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alvindavis4158 Whoever designed Salvador Sanchez was done. They gave him absolutely everything they needed to as a fighter. because he could do absolutely everything and he had another GEAR when he needed it. If there wasn't separation between him and his opponent, he created it. I don't know if I'd call that a matter of IQ, maybe, but for me I remember SS as the finished product.

    • @LucieOne
      @LucieOne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alvindavis4158 Yeah. I remember reading that he had an unusually large heart and that JC Chavez had an abnormally thick skull. Sometimes people go their entire lives without finding anything that they're good at, these guys found EXACTLY what they were supposed to be doing.

    • @LucieOne
      @LucieOne ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alvindavis4158 lol, thank you Alvin! Ricardo Lopez is difficult to place because of the quality of his opposition. Off the top of my head, the only fighter he fought that REALLY gets credit is Rosendo Alvarez, and really the only reason (or the biggest reason I should say), that he gets that credit is because he had a draw with Lopez and dropped him and a lot of people thought that he won. And Lopez never went up to fight Gonzalez and Carbajal in his day. When he did go up, either those guys were gone or he just didn't fight them. I think he fought Will Grigsby and the South African and called it a day. Something like that. But if I go by just what I saw, the 'eye test'. You could put them in any order that you want, in terms of non active fighters, it's Chavez, it's Sanchez and it's Ricardo Lopez. I'd put him that high based on what I SAW from him. I think he beats Chiquita Gonzalez and Michael Carbajal in good fights, but we'll never know, obviously. But Lopez doesn't have the resume that guys like... Barrera, Morales, Marquez and Olivares..... so if you want to put them over him, I understand that.

    • @LucieOne
      @LucieOne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@alvindavis4158 Barrera was like he had the answers against Hamed. He already knew what he was going to do - literally ducking before he even threw the punch. Ducking out of the way of those crazy uppercuts Hamed had because he knew the exact angle they were coming at. If they fought 10 times, maybe Hamed lands something crazy and wins once, but I'd pick Barrera every time. Nice talking to you Alvin.

    • @kingdomofanimaria
      @kingdomofanimaria ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LucieOneI have a question what was the general opinion of Roy jones jr before and after tarver 2? Like all time ranking

  • @TracKshackZ
    @TracKshackZ ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Donald in the cut chillin.

    • @kobiecamp1134
      @kobiecamp1134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trump has always been right in the middle of things.

  • @kareenlearmond4407
    @kareenlearmond4407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    These dudes would destroy canelo

    • @kobiecamp1134
      @kobiecamp1134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Even if James Toney was around his prime during Canelo's time he still wouldn't have destroyed Canelo. Because Canelo would have cherry picked around him.

    • @jonathangomez7324
      @jonathangomez7324 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kobiecamp1134do you see those is jabs canelo could never and canelo is an inside fighter

    • @CocaineCowboyJones
      @CocaineCowboyJones 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1000% fact

  • @GeeLove
    @GeeLove ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Marv, I know you're no longer here, but you fought enough Philly fighters to know that it is called the Philly Shoulder Roll.

    • @renzopeterson153
      @renzopeterson153 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      *Philly shell, he was probably overthinking the term and forgot all together, dude had close to 70 fights in his career, he was bound to forget some shit lol.

    • @arandomusername-ez9sd
      @arandomusername-ez9sd 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's called a shoulder roll not the philly shoulder roll non philly fighters were using it before the philly shell was even a thing benton popularised the philly shell in the 40s and 50s shoulder rolls were used as early as the late 1910s maybe even before by fighters that never went to philly a day in there lives Hagler knows what he's talking about

  • @WYNNBETS
    @WYNNBETS ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Best technical fight in the history of boxing, ever.

    • @Dannys_Dimensions
      @Dannys_Dimensions ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The skill between these guys was top notch

    • @kobiecamp1134
      @kobiecamp1134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah, these 2 middleweights showed more skills in one fight than Canelo Alvarez showed in his entire career.

  • @GrahamPick-jw1lf
    @GrahamPick-jw1lf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Both great fighters imagine if mccallum was 10 years younger in this fight 😮

    • @GrahamPick-jw1lf
      @GrahamPick-jw1lf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SCORP1ONF1RE
      true but mcallum was just as good people have forgotten about how good he was and the casuals have never heard of him

    • @067magic
      @067magic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He would have won😠

    • @outspoken117
      @outspoken117 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@GrahamPick-jw1lfMy favorite fighter along with Duran and Hawkins.

  • @thefabulous4
    @thefabulous4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Tony won, but the draw isn’t shocking. Great fight between 2 greats 🥊

    • @renzopeterson153
      @renzopeterson153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      McCallum won the second

    • @incredibleXMan
      @incredibleXMan ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@renzopeterson153 god knows how he did not get that one.

    • @renzopeterson153
      @renzopeterson153 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@incredibleXMan yessir, out landed Toney again, and out worked him while doing body work the second time around.

    • @TheNeorch
      @TheNeorch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the draw is normal for me,hard to score who's better...

  • @markellis1634
    @markellis1634 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good fight and Marvelous on the commentary. What's not to like

    • @joshuajarod1909
      @joshuajarod1909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That it wasn't 15 rounds that's about it

    • @kobiecamp1134
      @kobiecamp1134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      R.I.P. to the late Marvelous Marvin Hagler.

  • @boxinghub8979
    @boxinghub8979 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is a must watch for all boxing students. This matche goes far beyond boxing 101, this is as good as it gets.

  • @MrBryantp
    @MrBryantp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember watching this fight live on PPV with Marvin Hagler commentating. McCallum gave up his title belt to make the fight happen therefore, in my mind it was a unification bout. I knew McCallum was tough as hell and should never be underestimated yet Toney had everything going for him after knocking out Michael Nunn and I remember saying he is nuts for going after McCallum with his experience. This fight was so close, and a draw was justified. I had McCallum outboxing toney for the most part but Toney took over rounds with his killer instinct and at times really threatened to Knock McCallum out. Toney fought like he didn't know how to lose, and McCallum fought in a way that was to teach the upstart about the sweet science. Great fight!

  • @Motorfirez
    @Motorfirez ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My only way to score the fight : GREAT !

  • @robertgarcia2102
    @robertgarcia2102 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had james Toney winning this fight 116 -112 he was throwing and landing the harder punches and had Mike McMullen hurt a few times this was a great fight skill wise but I think Mike McMullen didn't have enough on his punches to hurt james Toney

    • @outspoken117
      @outspoken117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Toney had too many wild punches that had no chance, but looked good. Body punchers don't get enough credit, but McCallum started cranking them up in the seventh

    • @andiargana8487
      @andiargana8487 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠​⁠@@outspoken117so what if toney had too many wild punches he still landed the biggest and hardest punch in this fight toney right hand keep landing hard on mccallum, the decision should’ve given to toney in this fight

  • @Baseball91896
    @Baseball91896 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Personally had it 116-112 Toney
    Can even see a draw, maybe, but McCallum winning the fight? nah no way.

    • @1Roamingwolf
      @1Roamingwolf ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thats because you dont know jack about scoring a fight, nor boxing itself

    • @johnthomas7070
      @johnthomas7070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@1RoamingwolfI saw it the exact same way, good fight but McCallum 100% lost, I gave Toney even more rounds than that. Seemed to me like everyone else commentating agreed as well, including Hagler.

    • @Rocatagliata25
      @Rocatagliata25 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely I had Toney winning 10 rounds, only lost round 1 and 9.@@johnthomas7070

    • @outspoken117
      @outspoken117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mike was known as the "Body Snatcher", and he started working the body in round seven. In my opinion most fans don't give enough credit to bodywork and that with the busier jab evened up Toney's big right. It's boxing not UFC . I had McCallum winning.

    • @Tom-lv2mv
      @Tom-lv2mv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can tell you never boxed before@@1Roamingwolf

  • @charliegallaro2831
    @charliegallaro2831 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Both of them are indeed very very good. Tough they are. Toney scored more stronger hits, Mc did more jabbing and sometimes hard hits.
    Kudos to the two of them.
    I enjoyed really in watching them. . .

  • @grudeman
    @grudeman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The highest skilled contest in the history of sports.

  • @stevenmendoza5621
    @stevenmendoza5621 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great fight! James Toney should have gotten the nod. Close fight though.

  • @abudujana13
    @abudujana13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Beautiful! Top class boxing!
    Thanks for the video, TOP RANK BOXING

  • @user-qi2sx8kx6r
    @user-qi2sx8kx6r 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Giving away 12 years ...come on man the body snatcher was off the scale .....

  • @Bill-Butcher
    @Bill-Butcher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great, competitive fight between two high level skilled fighters.

  • @stuffstuff8942
    @stuffstuff8942 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Old man Mike McCallum was so good

  • @pablodiablo9178
    @pablodiablo9178 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Watching this in 2023, I can't wrap my head around Toney being so slim....

    • @howlingwolf125y
      @howlingwolf125y ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yup.. I think Toney would have done better if he'd stayed down at 160 or 175 at a max for his career .. instead of getting fat and fighting at the heavier weights. I was suprised that he fought as good as he did at the heavyweight division.. I guess his good boxing and defense skills helped him at any weight..

    • @LucieOne
      @LucieOne ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@howlingwolf125y And he did end up beating, arguably (but likely), the best cruiserweight at the time in Jirov when he was up there.

    • @kobiecamp1134
      @kobiecamp1134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@howlingwolf125yHell yeah his skills helped him because he beat Evander Holyfield's azz.

  • @milojanis4901
    @milojanis4901 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great Fight, BUT....Reverse the ages. Put McCallum in at 23, and Toney at 35. McCallum wins easily. McCallum is one of the most underrated fighters in his weight class I've ever seen. I'm not a huge fan of either. McCallum knew his best weight was 154, and he was smart to stay at that weight for most of his career

    • @Thunderdomebx
      @Thunderdomebx ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A 35 year old Toney was destroying Jirov at cruiser and holyfield and John Ruiz at heavyweight! To go from middle to heavy is unbelievable. McCallum played it safe most his career and stuck around at light middle or middle.

    • @mehmet7396
      @mehmet7396 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At 23 McCallum hadn't even turned pro yet and at 35 Toney was fighter of the year, so couldbt disagree more

  • @jandro8370
    @jandro8370 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great fight. McCallum was one tough guy for 30 years old and in there with a prime MW Toney. I believe Toney won pretty damn convincingly tho. Hagler commentating dropping some good knowledge.

  • @capac2
    @capac2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful beautiful boxing. I can watch this a billion times.

  • @gavinbrando8255
    @gavinbrando8255 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    James Toney or the black Marlon Brando as I call him (look at that face) put on a clinic here against a guy in Mike McCallum who.... put on a clinic here! This might be one of the most fascinating fights of all time!!! 5:25 is a beautiful few seconds but that's just one of a hundred amazing sequences of counters and step offs and counters to the counters of the counters and the lead straight right then hook and counter uppercut.... This is fantastic for real fans of the art!!

  • @JarrylKhan
    @JarrylKhan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chiseled James Toney is a mythical fighter I never thought I'd see

  • @mrshawterry6
    @mrshawterry6 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was boxing back then, james Toney 12 yrs younger, M McCallum was a tough man, he was no walk in the park period.James Toney was a young up and coming great young fighter, 35 yr old M McCullum, i'm not going anywhere, i'll be here all 36 minutes, what a fight.

  • @kykise1395
    @kykise1395 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think it should have been scored for Toney by a split decision. He edged many of those rounds.

    • @outspoken117
      @outspoken117 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He also got turned completely around three times and was taking up to twelve unanswered punches several times. People don't credit body shots, but you have to when the guys moniker is " body snatcher"

  • @franceonearcillious8103
    @franceonearcillious8103 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That commentators with Hagler were very bias. Hagler kept it unbiased. I say win for Toney or a draw

  • @oacaparov
    @oacaparov 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think Toney - McCallum 1 won Toney but judges give draw.... And Toney -McCallum 2 was draw but judges give Toney win. I don't understand them.

  • @musicandboxing7370
    @musicandboxing7370 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Too close to call but I think a younger body snatcher (McCallum) beats Toney by UD

    • @louduva9849
      @louduva9849 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      McCallum was still prime here. Don't make excuses.

    • @nadalhector2148
      @nadalhector2148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both are great.

    • @nadalhector2148
      @nadalhector2148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@louduva9849 Both.

    • @yvans.
      @yvans. ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@louduva9849 Cm’n dude McCallum prime was in the late 80’s

    • @louduva9849
      @louduva9849 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yvans. Prime is a time period, not a time point. This is only 1991.

  • @johnapperson7495
    @johnapperson7495 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how you neve see Smoger

  • @nickbeef4824
    @nickbeef4824 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both of these guys a fighting genius’s

  • @user-bo3ol7ly7n
    @user-bo3ol7ly7n 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These 2 fighters are great at
    The sweat science what
    Skill this is where you see
    The skill level of chess boxing
    Is apparent like no other sport

  • @MrBluesmeister
    @MrBluesmeister 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Commentary is typically biased. Toney was doing well but he missed a lot where the idiot commentators screamed how he’s landing rights. He landed plenty yet McCallum was a deceiving boxer with a great defensive skillsets. He rolls and pulls just enough that many punches are only glancing. Mike was much busier the whole fight constantly throwing double even triple jabs yet the lip service was all about Toney’s big rights. Marvin was lucky McCallum was a light middleweight. 10th round and the idiots once again exaggerate Toney’s barrage of misses but talk like he’s landing. No mention of Mike out striking him once again. Toney was landing well but not as stated by the idiots. Don’t get me wrong I love Toney to this day, he’s one bad man. One of my favorites all time. But Mr. McCallum was a special fighter. Dodged by several boxers of his day even when he was past his prime as he is here. 35 vs. 23 yet Mike took everything Toney landed and went the distance. In his prime Mike was a destroyer.

  • @brianseneca3546
    @brianseneca3546 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember watching it live and I thought Toney won. Mike was an alltime great although I didnt like him for a while because he beat my favorite fighter Donald Curry! But this was one fight I think he legitimately lost.

    • @callumwarren3342
      @callumwarren3342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Toney took this one, McCallum took the second imo.

    • @louduva9849
      @louduva9849 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@callumwarren3342 McCallum did even less in the second fight.

    • @renzopeterson153
      @renzopeterson153 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@louduva9849 🛑, and Toney did even less there, Mike still out landed Toney.

    • @callumwarren3342
      @callumwarren3342 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@louduva9849 I'd have to rewatch it since my memory is a little hazy but I remember McCallum being the more accurate puncher and the more defensively responsible fighter. That's why I have him winning that one.

    • @wutang5503
      @wutang5503 ปีที่แล้ว

      renzopatterson153 outlanded toney with weak piter pater punches. Toney landed the cleaner more effective punches in that fight just like this one.

  • @user-ip2bz9cw4h
    @user-ip2bz9cw4h 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    なんだこの試合、現代レベルでも最高峰な試合やん

  • @nylesfrench3568
    @nylesfrench3568 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Fight by two Master craftsmen. McCallum is one of my favorites and was very avoided. Mike was 35 years old, past his prime and fought this well.

    • @smacksmack5976
      @smacksmack5976 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I knewmikein jamaicaagentleman

  • @MrSilus2000
    @MrSilus2000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bill Miller vs Eddie Futch

  • @joeblow2069
    @joeblow2069 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remember the age difference. McCallum is 11 1/2 years older.

    • @kobiecamp1134
      @kobiecamp1134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, we noticed.

  • @sanchez5963
    @sanchez5963 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:19 is that trump?

    • @jiji1946
      @jiji1946 ปีที่แล้ว

      certainly is..... i was wondering who he's with (she looks not unlike JT's manager at the time, Jackie Kallan.... but isn't her of course)

    • @kobiecamp1134
      @kobiecamp1134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's him doing his thing.

  • @frizzneil2590
    @frizzneil2590 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey there's Trump...Hey Don...

    • @gavinbrando8255
      @gavinbrando8255 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mr. President

    • @frizzneil2590
      @frizzneil2590 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      From your Lips...Trump 24 no Sub...@@gavinbrando8255

  • @architchaudhary1285
    @architchaudhary1285 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Toney did enough to win imo.

  • @user-vm2hh9ts8h
    @user-vm2hh9ts8h 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A great fight between two elite level fighters who were boxing technicians..... this was not a controversial decision.... I don't think that macallum did enough to get the decision and I don't think that Toney deserved to lose.....a draw was a good result for both fighters...

  • @otrack1998
    @otrack1998 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mcCallum a great fighter Toney too, this fight is one of the most beautiful technically, defensively and tactically, both of them showed great ring IQ and skills

  • @067magic
    @067magic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is actually the greatest fight of all time

  • @revprince2
    @revprince2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When young people look at basketball players from the 80’s and say they couldn’t play with todays players, they would have to make the exact opposite assessment when watching fights like this from these two. No fighter today has this elite level of skill. No fighter today could compete with either of these two.

    • @kobiecamp1134
      @kobiecamp1134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, if Canelo fought James Toney at any weight while James Toney was active he would have lose.

  • @rubengutierrez5102
    @rubengutierrez5102 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That fight wasn't a draw. James Toney won the fight!

  • @markjuarezmma
    @markjuarezmma 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buffer’s hair is on point

  • @sweetscienceboxing1986
    @sweetscienceboxing1986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the defense of this fight is genius

  • @iwant2usethis
    @iwant2usethis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:34 mark Trump sitting along side a blond woman in black. Could be his wife. Toney strong to the end, yet the accuracy was less in the late rounds. McCallum a lot more touches throughout the fight, yet Toney weighed in with the most heavy blows - by far. Mike made the fight with the jabbing and proximity. Toney didn't have to go and find him, he was there jabbing his way to points. That left at around 1:20 of the last round rocked Mike to the bone, yet he managed to keep his balance and slipped a few, yet continued to toke more punishment. Both on fumes, but Toney's best round for sure. I feel a draw is in order. Can't give it Toney, wasn't busy enough and can't give to Mike either, because he didn't do enough to beat Toney

  • @rudem.2973
    @rudem.2973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both are great fighters. In how they are able to move when hooks are coming down on their body or head. They just move with the punch and slip that punch . Perfect timing . I must agree with the judges. It was a draw. Boxer Tony was behind on the score cards, He redeemed his self. There should be a re-match . I don't know if they ever had a re-match.

    • @outspoken117
      @outspoken117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They had two rematches, both worth watching.

  • @fkhothatchi
    @fkhothatchi หลายเดือนก่อน

    TEO NEEDS TO STUDY TONEY CLOSELY

  • @okgoohno20
    @okgoohno20 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    high level boxing on display

  • @truecrimescotsman
    @truecrimescotsman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't really see the controversy, a lot of close rounds, a draw seems about right.

  • @zaxtt.p8241
    @zaxtt.p8241 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The draw was unfair fir Toney. He deserved the victory

  • @mildred1217
    @mildred1217 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Prime Body snatcher takes out Toney easy. Mike one of the most under appreciated boxer ever. He was Jamaican and they never made him big like Hagler and Hearns.

    • @KayeeObazee-kr5rc
      @KayeeObazee-kr5rc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯

    • @Thunderdomebx
      @Thunderdomebx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Toney that beat Iran Barkley would've beat any version of McCallum. He was in the matrix that night.

    • @mildred1217
      @mildred1217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Thunderdomebx Meh...Iran Barkley that Toney beat was beaten so many😂 even before Tony beat him. Please. He was beat up by Nigel Behn, Duran, wimpy boy Nunn just to name afew. Dont get me wrong, I like Toney is one the finest no doubt.

    • @Thunderdomebx
      @Thunderdomebx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mildred1217 noone beat Iran like Toney did, made him look like a complete novice, also McCallum stuck around at his natural weight most of his career playing it safe, Toney moved up all the way to heavyweight and continued whooping ass.

    • @mildred1217
      @mildred1217 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thunderdomebx tell me what happened to Prime Toney against Roy Jones.

  • @krishnarao6242
    @krishnarao6242 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great fight.

  • @marklayne1781
    @marklayne1781 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed watching 👀 this boxing fight (Toney (23) vs McCullum (35)). Give credit to the referee he was jumping and moving around in that ring throughout the whole fight. In the very first round I really thought Mike McCullum owed James Toney some money 💰 🤑 💸💲 💵 the way he started throwing powerful powerful punches 👊 👊 🤜 🤛 ✊️ 👊 ✊️ 🤛 🤜 from the start. This definitely could've been the fight of that year.

  • @frizzneil2590
    @frizzneil2590 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 2 blind mice callin this were a joke...

    • @kreativeproduction7203
      @kreativeproduction7203 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marvelous hagler was blind to you?

    • @frizzneil2590
      @frizzneil2590 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kreativeproduction7203 Never met the man...

    • @milojanis4901
      @milojanis4901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Kreative Production If he was blind, I'm shaking in my own boots wondering how great Hagler would've been if he could've seen. A blind Hagler kicked Hearns ass. Imagine that!!!! ROFLMFAO

  • @onlyjoetee
    @onlyjoetee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Definitely a draw, I had it 6 rounds each

  • @angeleusebio9451
    @angeleusebio9451 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Toney should win by split dec.he wins the 12 round

    • @louduva9849
      @louduva9849 ปีที่แล้ว

      SD? Do you have multiple personality disorder?

  • @ezsmith3765
    @ezsmith3765 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:14
    Trump with the white rope across his eyes.

  • @richardmccormick859
    @richardmccormick859 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toney fought any and everybody! Didn't duck no one.

  • @donalddouglas7643
    @donalddouglas7643 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Except for Hagler the commentators were so biased against McCallum it was unbelievable. Among other deliberate ugliness that they have mentioned furing the bout how could they say that James won rounds 9, 10, & 11 . When we it was so obvious for others watched the fight to see Tony loosing all three , he Tony was missing so mush if his shots of desperatiin while being countered by Mike . This disappointment the gave for mike not having a history of knocking out opponents in the division showed that they were not prepared to accept that Macallum could out box Tony and get the fight sadly and so did two of the Judges .
    They ascwell as most people who followed bixing that Mike was not the kind of fighter so it should not have been expected .
    Now lets go back and look at Toney's face from the 8th round onwords he knew he was loosing the fight and at the 10th he knew he had lost the fight if he didnt knock out Mike in the 11th. and he failed at this .
    Look at Tony's wild punches at the beginning of the 11th this showed how he felt about his chances of winning they were now very slim for the fight was not to have gone this far he was as tired as Mike and he was nuch younger , he Toneyv had to get this knock down, if not the knockout . We see Tony missing so much in the 12th round . Macallum didn't do much in the round not because he was exhausted but also because Tony was not fighting any more but was swinging desperately trying get Mike to the floor Toney lost it was too obvious .
    I guess Hagler must have been embarrassed to have sat there with these insult to boxing calling themselves professional commentators.

    • @AcuaitzinMoteuhczoma
      @AcuaitzinMoteuhczoma 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s Joe Goossen, what do you expect 😂

    • @keithcampbell6806
      @keithcampbell6806 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no doubt that the commentary stinks . However Marvin was more on cue . Let us be fair. A very close fight l think a draw was perhaps the best decision. Mike won the secong one tho imo.

    • @andiargana8487
      @andiargana8487 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Whomp whomp🤣🤣 toney won the fight so what if he was missing wild with his punch toney punches landed big and harden than mccallum pitter patter punch and toney right hand landed hard on mccallum toney should’ve taken the decision in this fight, the second fight I can see mccallum winning that fight with those pitter patter punch but the judges really messed up with those score card.

  • @ohlangeni
    @ohlangeni 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can this fight be a draw, or even a split decision. James Toney won outright and the referee nearly stopped it in the last second of the 12th round because McCallum was in such bad shape, taking damaging punishment

    • @GorenGuang
      @GorenGuang 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You just started watching boxing last month 😅

    • @ohlangeni
      @ohlangeni 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GorenGuang Assuming you are correct, what is your point?

    • @GorenGuang
      @GorenGuang 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ohlangeni My point is that casuals like you need to learn to keep those mouths shut, an inexperienced mouth could get the wrong soap treatment, get better knowledge, think before you speak, and maybe perhaps stereotypes don't spread, just like how it did with Mayweather? Alright honey buns?

    • @MrSilus2000
      @MrSilus2000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GorenGuangYou sound like a whiny kid. You clearly don’t box stop lying

  • @JohnnyNation
    @JohnnyNation 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    James Toney was handed several gift decisions when he was undefeated as the boxing powers wanted to keep his record intact !!!###

  • @marccreation1052
    @marccreation1052 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toney boxed better half knocked out than most fully conscious. McCallum also was a worthy dancing partner for any top fighter.

  • @tonypaella
    @tonypaella 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My does mccallum look like Bill Cosby in that picture at the beginning

  • @derwinjohnson8174
    @derwinjohnson8174 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What year was this fight?

  • @067magic
    @067magic หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Y’all don’t see Donald trump in the audience 😂

  • @Borisam
    @Borisam ปีที่แล้ว

    Great high iq fight from both fighters. Toney was landing vicious right hands but McCallum was having a great pace. Toney won a close one here imo.

  • @Rocatagliata25
    @Rocatagliata25 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HUGE ROBBERY, Tony should've won. I only saw McCallum winning round 1 and 9.

  • @qizrquacolaban8813
    @qizrquacolaban8813 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Cagiest vs the Most Complete

  • @kaliduncanel3356
    @kaliduncanel3356 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This says James was 5 11 which was believable because it goes along with his 75 inch reach. He was listed as 5 9 towards the end if his career. Im guessing its because he gained so much weight? And how great of a coach was Bill Miller.

  • @user-kh3hm1dd7h
    @user-kh3hm1dd7h 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember this fight like it was yesterday 🥊 Lights out Toney vs The Body snatcher McCallum 🥊

  • @TAM.w39
    @TAM.w39 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remembered that fight clearly "youthfulness" beat McCallum.

  • @mikeluczakowski4074
    @mikeluczakowski4074 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toney der Klare Sieger
    da sitzen die Punkte
    Richter und sind voll von der Rolle!!

  • @charliegallaro2831
    @charliegallaro2831 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toney has delivered more hard punches! McCallum with plenty of jabs & jabs.

  • @benlogan430
    @benlogan430 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the fight where Tony begins going from good to great.

  • @pequerobles
    @pequerobles 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Toney listed at 5ft 11.5.......he's actually around 5 ft 9

  • @cosmos6107
    @cosmos6107 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whoa. This was a good fight .

  • @thejoyofboxing8805
    @thejoyofboxing8805 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LEGENDS

  • @apex_prowler95
    @apex_prowler95 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Controversial?! It was only close because JT let it be close. McCallum's fights are as overrated as he is. Like watching paint dry. All this technical stuff is drybones. The all time greats he fought he lost to. He went 1 and 1 against Kalambay though. The Brits were excited solid fighters but none of them would be considered all time greats. Mike was solid. That's all.

    • @keithcampbell6806
      @keithcampbell6806 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about Julian Jackson and Donald Curry .Mike koed both . Duran got stripped for not fighting him. Every boxing knowledgeable knows Steward did Mike wrong that is why Mike wanted to beat his whole stable given the opportunity. Anyone who describes Mike McCallum as overrated is a fool no apologies. Go and learn the spiort and stop posting garbage.

    • @andiargana8487
      @andiargana8487 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Julian Jackson's one of the biggest punching bag in boxing I mean if you take his power he doesn’t have a really good boxing skill like mccallum Just look at the heron graham and terry norris fight he litterly getting beat up and outbox pretty bad but Jackson really blessed with those power punch like Every fight he has with top level boxer is him getting beat up and then boom he landed that one punch that would knockout a horse of course except Gerald mccellan and mike but mcallum knockout donal curry is phenomenal

  • @degolddegold1266
    @degolddegold1266 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am great fan of Mike but Tony won this hands down.

    • @TheNeorch
      @TheNeorch หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ig so,but the draw wasn't really disappointing I think.

  • @georgeharris9569
    @georgeharris9569 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    toney is one of the best underrated boxers we ever had mad respect on toney great fight but i just wanted to say we hear about ali mike roy holy george sunny frazier the list goes on but toney is the underrated best fighter that i wish his name where mentioned a bit more. toney was a dog. frazier was a dog. bud is a dog xd mike was a dog but i think he couldnt control his emotions. deadly tho. but toney unique style was amazing. theres a bit if frazier and mike in toney.

  • @luisvazquez7015
    @luisvazquez7015 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Toney won!

  • @atlred
    @atlred 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I THOUGHT J "LIGHTS OUT" T WON THIS FIGHT.

  • @GoBangas
    @GoBangas หลายเดือนก่อน

    better than crawford vs madrimov 😆

  • @gangwaycrypto1537
    @gangwaycrypto1537 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn I thought the way Toney finished the fight he won but great fight the parrying the jabs, slips , great jabs , great right hands . McCollum had more iq but tank wasn’t a good as Toneys. Toney landed harder right hands but mcculum was throwing them right back . Toney finished the fight way better tho

  • @ben10wynton
    @ben10wynton 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mcallum edge the first one