Three dimensions were one dimension too many for these series, which were better off in the 2D era! Can you think of any we missed? Shout in the comments, and enjoy!
I was a game developer in the mid 90's when games were starting to transition from 2d to 3d. At the time there were different ways to do this. With the limitations of real time 3d (processing power wasn't ready for it...my first 3d game allowed for a maximum of a glorious THIRTY polygons on screen at a time or the frame rate would start getting below 8 frames a second!) a lot of games then would actually render sprites from 3d art...the advantage of this was that you could get better looking 3d characters, even though they couldn't be truly 3d in the game. The backgrounds could be done the same way if gameplay was 2d, or for 3d gameplay they could use a hybrid--3d environments with 2d rendered sprites. Then there was a sudden thrust to make all games 3d...problem was, the tech being where it was, 3d looked mostly horrible...but it seemed that the whole industry was insistent on jumping in completely...so for a few years, most games were destined to look crappy. (though some utilized it better than others...Mario 64 for example didn't have fantastic graphics, but it worked well with what it had and had great game design that has made the game age well even today) So my point is that, in my opinion, pretty much till the PS2 era, I felt that MOST games went 3d way too early.
Kevin Miller I remember being pretty unimpressed with the first 3d games. Specially the ones from series who jumped from beautiful 2d graphics to blocky, un-detailed, 3d models
Exactly! One of the games that stood out as loosing something when they went 3d was the Monkey Island series. The series had pretty solid 2d graphics (for the time) and then they switched to real-time 3d that looked pretty awful. They got better(like all games), but that first generation didn't look good at all.
You are certainly right that they all jumped in early. Still without people pioneering 3d graphics and driving the market for GPUs the landscape might have been very different. Imagine if 3Dfx remained in business for instance. It took the PSX to make the PS2 and I don't think it could have happened any other way. All the companies had to get experience in 3d graphics and certainly learned from the successes and failures that they had. There were actually a TON of PSX games that I loved despite their primitive 3d graphics because they were just so much fun to play. Pretty hard to knock games like the first N64 zelda as well. Or Metal Gear Solid. All of those games paved the way for the amazing games that came out for the PS2. Look, you could argue that Star Fox is a great example of a 3D game that came too early. Looking back at it now, it isn't all that impressive even for the time. Especially when you compare to say Virtua Racer on the Genesis. But, at the time it was so much fun and totally acceptable to all of us. 3d graphics on the SNES! Amazing! We were all blown away. I especially liked the little intro sequence. I am glad that developers and console makers took the risk and didn't wait another generation. I think it paid off. The public clearly wanted (and still wants) 3d games and a lot of great games came out that we all had fun playing. Win-win? It's always easy to look back and find plenty of bad examples of any emerging media or genre.
You are right; to get better, it was necessary for the industry to put their hat into the ring. And some of those early games were great in their way, just due to excellent design. I guess what I'm saying is that maybe not EVERY game had to be real-time 3d. (yes I know the "EVERY" game is an exaggeration, but not by much) I just felt like some games could have waited an iteration or two before making the switch. But technology tends to not work that way...society rarely *waits* for tech to be ready...it's the nature of economics...industry players have to go full speed ahead or risk getting left behind.
I'll defend Sonic Adventure until the day I die! Except for Big the Cat. yeah, Big was, uh, just not fun. But I enjoyed the Chao Garden, those little guys were so cute!
Agree, I believe that Sonic Adventure was a groundbreaking game for its time. If you judge a game that is already more than 20 years old by today's standard, of course it's going to show its age.
Seriously all my friends loved Sonic Adventure to death, it was so cool. I didn't play Sonic Adventure 2 till the Gamecube for some reason and everyone praised it there as a great GC game. Kinda ironic Definitely not too soon for that series
I disagree with Sonic Adventure: for the time it looked AMAZING (as you mentioned) and it really felt like a ‘Next Gen’ game. Time has not been kind to it (as with almost all 3D platformers in that era) but I definitely don’t think it was ‘too soon’ the timing was perfect.
One of the only games that aged well would be Mario. Oh Mario, you always save the pixelated world of video games, as well as the mushroom kingdom, from total collapse and failure.
I want the following shows... 7 games Ellen couldnt play because of surprise spiders. 7 driving games that Mike didnt like.or 7 times Mike used stealth instead of explosives. 7 games that were ruined for Jane because of science 7 games that broke history for Andy 7 games that made Luke cry like ..... well like only Luke can cry! ok ready set GO!!!! are they done yet?
I'm worried for Ellen playing Monster Hunter: World, if indeed she does. I don't THINK Nerscylla from 4 is in it, and she may well be able to handle the Vesperoids in the Ancient Forest, but the horrible little Scavantulas in the Rotten Vale are horrible.
Timber Wolf "7 times Mike used stealth instead of explosives"...*SEVEN* times? Mike? STEALTH!? If you're only including games where explosives were an option ... Lolololol, that'll be a shorter list than seven.
To be fair to 3D tetris, playing the virtual boy for too long could actually damage one's eyesight. So perhaps, in a way, the fact that 3D tetris sucked so bad was actually a _brilliant safety feature_ ? Think about it.
I never played the virtual boy game, but i used to have a version for PC which isn't too bad as the blocks are all different colors and better rendered so you can actually see what level everything is on.
Yeah... the eye damage and the headaches thing were greatly exaggerated. I loved my Virtual Boy and played it for long periods. I'd play for hours on end (though I did take breaks, like it suggested), and when I stopped it was just like coming out from a dark theatre.
The dreamcast version of sonic adventure is the best one overall in terms of bug fixes. So thats the version i play personally, well that and i think the "HD" textures on the gamecube are offputting. For SA2, the dreamcast one has slight graphics/lighting superiority but the gamecube version is overall the better one to own and thats how i usually play it. If you are curious as to the differences, ask and ill make you a list later.
Agreed I loved that game and also Dreamcast was the best I remember playing Phantasy Star online took awhile to get online but when I did seeing people from around the world playing along with me
@@juanelorriaga2840 Fun fact, if you still have that Dreamcast, you really can STILL play PSO. I think it takes a little rigging though to get a fan server. (Plenty of old MMOs actually have fans running private servers for them so people can still enjoy them. Like one of the older Star Wars ones.)
Surely Bubsy also went to 2d too soon. And tv too soon with that pilot. And games generally too soon. And basically out of the idea stage too soon. But hey, what could possibly go wrong?
Gizensha Fox His creator changed genres too soon. He was known for his amazing text based adventure games, but he wanted to make a platformer. His boss said, "Don't! Stick to making stories that's all your good at.". He kept bothering him until he finally gave in. Leading him to create Bubsy. In the long run that boss wasn't wrong. Yet he still gave in. If only he didn't.
When someone hears the new contra game Child: oooh I can’t wait *contra legacy of war comes out* Child: mom I have a headache Mom: how long have you been playing? Child: 2 minutes
Ellen seems to be asking why Lex Luthor didn't just go all I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream on Superman. That's pretty dark for her... I wonder if she's sealed Evil Ellen inside of her? Maybe that's why we've only seen Evil Luke.
Well, uh... I don't even remember what episode that was. But didn't they once say that Jane had made a bunch of clones? Maybe all of Ellens clones are evil, but some less so. I can't believe that there is so much lore on these damn channels.
True, but due to it being a pack-in game, its definitely the one that most people immediately think about. Which to me is weird, considering the NES version is the one used at competitions. Or at least it used to be, not sure about these days.
It may be a stretch, but I still remember the day when I discovered that Tekken 6 had ditched their 1 on 1 arcade mode, in favor of an isometric beat 'em up style "story mode". The two worst parts though: 1. That "story mode" was how you unlocked all the characters so you had to play through it, and 2. The control scheme was still the same as the original arcade mode! So thanks OXtra for making me relive those traumatising memories, now if you will excuse me, I need to go remove them again with some of Mike's Brain Bleach
But the 7th dimension is the one where all worlds start with different initial conditions. Surely there must be one of them where Bubsy doesn't happen.
I think Sonic made a perfectly fine jump to 3D with Sonic Adventure. I mean, it's not a perfect game and it's riddled with flaws, but it's a good game. Sure, by today's standards, it hasn't held up, but at the time, it was a really good game for what it was. Its sequel was even better, though.
@@hudsondzc The game that doomed the Sonic The Hedgehog series. At least the immediate mainline follow-up, Sonic Heroes, was a good idea, albeit one somewhat marred by its execution.
Correction: Its sequel WOULD'VE been better if they'd gone right back to basics instead of going for artificial Hero/Dark balance and doubling down on what was decidedly un-Sonic-esque about it (playstyles having nothing to do with high-speed athleticism-worked for SA1's story as Chaos created complications but not SA2's as that shit was over; upgrade items-bad enough that they kill pacing in order to give their finders either moves that they should naturally have ITFP because they're hyper-athletic zip-by ravagers or highly bizarre and situational bullshit but now demand that you comb main gameplay stages for them often necessitating obscenely offtrack detours inappropriate for a series themed around fast heroism; increased emphasis on humans other than Eggman-not that that's inherently bad as it communicates the series's world, just that it doesn't need to be an overbearing trait).
“The one in the cinema that sprays you with water” I’ve been to one and when they sprayed water I just thought “wtf, so 4D is just being sprayed with water?!”
Sonic Adventure was actually a really smooth transition as it brought the series to it's highest point and captured momentum and platforming perfectly. And this is 1998, that wasn't too soon at all. Sonic 3D blast was shit but why would you use Adventure? It's a really polished game and still holds up today
@@eriakuswiftwindz7041 -its sequel- Sonic Heroes SA2 was a third of a good game at most bound to a crappy story. SH was a good game despite being uncharacteristically difficult to learn for a Sonic game.
I like SA as well, but NO WAY IN HELL is it polished. Camera problems, clipping glitches, and stilted cutscene construction abound, plus the English translation is woefully generic and hampered by past lore changes, along with the lip sync being infamously uncorrected for the (actually mostly serviceable) English voice work.
SgtSupaman Technically they're actually hairballs. I saw my cat cough one up once. Got it some milk and it started cursing at me, calling me every name under the sun. Apparently I was the only one who didn't know hedgehogs shouldn't have milk. Ungrateful little sod. Anyway, long story short he's in a sanctuary now, against his will unfortunately but it's best for both of us.
Outside xtra went 3D too soon, the original platformer was way better! and even then it had nothing on the graphic novel *it* was based on, and *that* was based on an ancient proverb about a tall and small wizard making lists about moving paintings
The best of those, of course, were the extended, entire-cave-network-long paintings of the saber-tooth cat making wordless, delighted saber-tooth cat noises over smaller, fluffier saber-tooth cats. ...Although you know what's horrible about that? Cave networks, being dark, underground, and with many places to go undisturbed, are good habitats for spiders. Which would mean that saber-cat Ellen would have spiders on her and that is not fair. Maybe we SHOULD start at the OutsideXBayeux Tapestry.
There was this zero dimensional point of spacetime, and it could not contain the awesomeness of Small and Tall, and it decided to go 3D. Violently. Bigly. They called it the Big Bang...
I grew up with the 90’s Outside Xbox Extended Universe comics, and at first I was miffed that Ellen wasn’t a ten year old boy like the one I grew up with, but this genderbent and agebent version has grown on me.
Jane would have been mad, because Ellen mention the evil Dimension, which might make people realize Jane has been experiment with means to open a portal to.
And if you actually LIKED the series and weren't offput by the transitioning to 3D? OH GOD THAT VOICE You were outta there faster than Sonic left idling on Little Planet.
@@eetuthereindeer6671 'Bubsy: The Woolies Strike Back' released in 2017 for PC and PS4. Shockingly, it's not that good and is mostly cashing in on name recognition.
Ryan Jackson Hell no. Even if Sonic Adventure 1 and/or Sonic Adventure 2 never existed, Sonic Generations and Sonic Unleashed are still better than Sonic Colors.
What I love about this channel is that they don't go with the basic expected thing for every entry. You expect all the worst games to pop up, all the infamous ones, then the first one is a virtual boy title. I love it.
as a famous man once said "superman he flies through the rings superman he does other things, just kidding it's all that he does and he's not even good, it's all that he does and he's not even goooood"
Imagine it when your entire field of view is filled with it. Oh and the Virtual Boy had a stand, so you had to crane forward at an awkward angle while playing it. Migraine and motion sickness inducing is the mildest complaint.
"If your perfect superhero fantasy is flying jerkily through hoops and occasionally punching, fill your boots". This would have been a perfect premise for a game based on Crufts.
Talking about superman and nineties weirdness, did you know that Tim Burton was to direct a superman movie starring Nicholas cage? It never got made but check out the production art online. It'll blow your mind. Good luck for dnd live btw
You're reaching with Sonic Adventure. It was good then and still decent today. By no way a bad 3d game especially compared to other 3d adventure games at the time. I really dont follow you with that one
Now i've seen this though, my mind is considering how a 4D Tetris would work. Dropping hypercubes from a higher dimension, trying to complete cuboid "planes", getting a line of 4 hypercubes to wipe in one go makes that satisfying squee noise.... oh I need a sit down now
I was actually surprised not to see the Castlevania games from the 64 on this list. Also, I think you should take this same basic concept and make 2 new lists. A list of game series that actually got better after switching to the third dimension, and a list of game series that for weird reasons went from 3D to 2D (like Resident Evil: Gaiden ..... sorry, just cringed a little).
sooo.... what your telling me, is that the ending of Contra: legacy of war is what inspired the plot of that Final Fantasy movie.... *Someone get out the brain bleach*
I can hardly believe that a list like that skipped "Worms" series... I mean sure, the graphics were still very much Worm-like, so this was easy on the eyes, but the third dimension turned a simple, funny, enjoyable artilery game into control nightmare with weird camera angles, giving one the impression said camera had a mind of its own (sure hope that WASN'T a foreshadow for SkyNet or something :D). As a result, the player couldn't properly execute the easiest shots and not in a funny way, turning the game into more of a chore than a pleasant skirmish that ended friendships ^^' This also affected the eyes though as the camera had the tendency to suddenly jump from one view to the other, making players dizzy or, at the very least, greatly confused. Certainly, much like many of this list's entries, "Worms" don't need 3D.
Good call. I had a demo of that game, was not good, a racing game where you can only run (slowly) as the world draws in about 10 feet in front of you. Yeesh.
but, like with so many others, we have plenty of Gems in the music. We got Super Sonic Racing out of it, and I still listen to the City track from time to time.
Of course, back in my day we had it tough. None of this 2D malarky. We had text adventures and even though you could GO NORTH, LOOK UP or KILL GOLLUM WITH SWORD (the ring's mine now you little froggy wierdo!) we didn't really have anything bar one dimension and that was time. Lots and lots of time. Mostly spent waiting for stuff to load of tape, go wrong, swear at the cassette deck and then start again.
Man, the images in that Hobbit game took forever to draw in. Infocom text games were much more fun because of that. I feel you on the tape drive. Tunnels of Doom on the TI99-4A for me. I’d describe it as a modem handshake noise that squeals on for three to five minutes, but fewer and fewer people were ever exposed to that sound. Which makes me feel old. And that’s coming from someone who played Stone Age games like Oubliette and Empire on PLATO networked machines as a kid.
The Harry potter tie ins, the chamber of secrets on gbc was an excellent little pixelated 2d adventure, and immediately after that any of the handheld versions were automatically a trainwreck
I remember being a kid and renting superman 64 from Blockbuster. I was so excited to play it and then never made it past the flight training. Lol took me years to learn there was also punching in the game, thanks O|X for showing me what I was missing 😁
I'm saying ARGH my eyes cause it's 3:30am here in Australia and I can't sleep but still bless my lucky stars that I caught this upload, cause man do I love you guys. This vid will give me sweet, sweet 2D dreams
Three dimensions were one dimension too many for these series, which were better off in the 2D era! Can you think of any we missed? Shout in the comments, and enjoy!
Outside Xtra you guys are great
Outside Xtra Castlevania 64, anyone?
Can Ellen actually remember the '90s?
When I was young my parents got me Pitfall 3D, and I wasn't fond of it
What about megaman 64
I was a game developer in the mid 90's when games were starting to transition from 2d to 3d. At the time there were different ways to do this. With the limitations of real time 3d (processing power wasn't ready for it...my first 3d game allowed for a maximum of a glorious THIRTY polygons on screen at a time or the frame rate would start getting below 8 frames a second!) a lot of games then would actually render sprites from 3d art...the advantage of this was that you could get better looking 3d characters, even though they couldn't be truly 3d in the game. The backgrounds could be done the same way if gameplay was 2d, or for 3d gameplay they could use a hybrid--3d environments with 2d rendered sprites.
Then there was a sudden thrust to make all games 3d...problem was, the tech being where it was, 3d looked mostly horrible...but it seemed that the whole industry was insistent on jumping in completely...so for a few years, most games were destined to look crappy. (though some utilized it better than others...Mario 64 for example didn't have fantastic graphics, but it worked well with what it had and had great game design that has made the game age well even today) So my point is that, in my opinion, pretty much till the PS2 era, I felt that MOST games went 3d way too early.
Kevin Miller I remember being pretty unimpressed with the first 3d games. Specially the ones from series who jumped from beautiful 2d graphics to blocky, un-detailed, 3d models
Exactly! One of the games that stood out as loosing something when they went 3d was the Monkey Island series. The series had pretty solid 2d graphics (for the time) and then they switched to real-time 3d that looked pretty awful. They got better(like all games), but that first generation didn't look good at all.
You are certainly right that they all jumped in early. Still without people pioneering 3d graphics and driving the market for GPUs the landscape might have been very different. Imagine if 3Dfx remained in business for instance. It took the PSX to make the PS2 and I don't think it could have happened any other way. All the companies had to get experience in 3d graphics and certainly learned from the successes and failures that they had. There were actually a TON of PSX games that I loved despite their primitive 3d graphics because they were just so much fun to play. Pretty hard to knock games like the first N64 zelda as well. Or Metal Gear Solid. All of those games paved the way for the amazing games that came out for the PS2.
Look, you could argue that Star Fox is a great example of a 3D game that came too early. Looking back at it now, it isn't all that impressive even for the time. Especially when you compare to say Virtua Racer on the Genesis. But, at the time it was so much fun and totally acceptable to all of us. 3d graphics on the SNES! Amazing! We were all blown away. I especially liked the little intro sequence. I am glad that developers and console makers took the risk and didn't wait another generation. I think it paid off. The public clearly wanted (and still wants) 3d games and a lot of great games came out that we all had fun playing. Win-win? It's always easy to look back and find plenty of bad examples of any emerging media or genre.
You are right; to get better, it was necessary for the industry to put their hat into the ring. And some of those early games were great in their way, just due to excellent design. I guess what I'm saying is that maybe not EVERY game had to be real-time 3d. (yes I know the "EVERY" game is an exaggeration, but not by much) I just felt like some games could have waited an iteration or two before making the switch. But technology tends to not work that way...society rarely *waits* for tech to be ready...it's the nature of economics...industry players have to go full speed ahead or risk getting left behind.
TLDR
I'll defend Sonic Adventure until the day I die! Except for Big the Cat. yeah, Big was, uh, just not fun. But I enjoyed the Chao Garden, those little guys were so cute!
Because ppl keep comparing it too today if in 1999 your playing Spiro and Mario 64 if you saw Sonic adventure you would lose your mind
Agree, I believe that Sonic Adventure was a groundbreaking game for its time. If you judge a game that is already more than 20 years old by today's standard, of course it's going to show its age.
And people are also saying that Mario 64 is perfect but uh........ The camera is horrid
@@sol4361 yeah
Seriously all my friends loved Sonic Adventure to death, it was so cool.
I didn't play Sonic Adventure 2 till the Gamecube for some reason and everyone praised it there as a great GC game. Kinda ironic
Definitely not too soon for that series
To set things into perspective for the Final Fight: Streetwise game. 1 year later, we would have Mass Effect and Gears of War.
Yeah...
That kinda makes my brain shudder lol
Jesus
wat
...ouch. That's just... Wow.
A better example would be Rockstar's The Warriors released a year earlier.
I disagree with Sonic Adventure: for the time it looked AMAZING (as you mentioned) and it really felt like a ‘Next Gen’ game.
Time has not been kind to it (as with almost all 3D platformers in that era) but I definitely don’t think it was ‘too soon’ the timing was perfect.
Amen
One of the only games that aged well would be Mario. Oh Mario, you always save the pixelated world of video games, as well as the mushroom kingdom, from total collapse and failure.
Yes, that is a good wisdom.
Yes
I want the following shows...
7 games Ellen couldnt play because of surprise spiders.
7 driving games that Mike didnt like.or 7 times Mike used stealth instead of explosives.
7 games that were ruined for Jane because of science
7 games that broke history for Andy
7 games that made Luke cry like ..... well like only Luke can cry!
ok ready set GO!!!!
are they done yet?
Timber Wolf 7 times Mike used stealth instead of explosives.
better?
I'm worried for Ellen playing Monster Hunter: World, if indeed she does. I don't THINK Nerscylla from 4 is in it, and she may well be able to handle the Vesperoids in the Ancient Forest, but the horrible little Scavantulas in the Rotten Vale are horrible.
Patrick Phelan I hope they never add that monster
Timber Wolf "7 times Mike used stealth instead of explosives"...*SEVEN* times? Mike? STEALTH!? If you're only including games where explosives were an option
...
Lolololol, that'll be a shorter list than seven.
" Sonic wasn't bad."
A few seconds later
Knuckles: ( like he just died inside ) Oh no.
To be fair to 3D tetris, playing the virtual boy for too long could actually damage one's eyesight. So perhaps, in a way, the fact that 3D tetris sucked so bad was actually a _brilliant safety feature_ ? Think about it.
I remember playing a Port of 3D Tetris on the Amiga!
It would be healthier if that game wasn't made in the first place.
I never played the virtual boy game, but i used to have a version for PC which isn't too bad as the blocks are all different colors and better rendered so you can actually see what level everything is on.
Yeah... the eye damage and the headaches thing were greatly exaggerated. I loved my Virtual Boy and played it for long periods. I'd play for hours on end (though I did take breaks, like it suggested), and when I stopped it was just like coming out from a dark theatre.
@Hopalongtom + @VillainFiles: 3D tetris for virtualBoy was a bad ripoff of that game. (which did it right)
I enjoyed sonic adventure on the dreamcast, yeah the cutscenes were wierd but the game was pretty solid.
Dreamcast and GameCube. I liked both versions of Sonic Adventure. And the GameCube version of Sonic Adventure 2
The dreamcast version of sonic adventure is the best one overall in terms of bug fixes. So thats the version i play personally, well that and i think the "HD" textures on the gamecube are offputting.
For SA2, the dreamcast one has slight graphics/lighting superiority but the gamecube version is overall the better one to own and thats how i usually play it. If you are curious as to the differences, ask and ill make you a list later.
Agreed I loved that game and also Dreamcast was the best I remember playing Phantasy Star online took awhile to get online but when I did seeing people from around the world playing along with me
@@juanelorriaga2840 Fun fact, if you still have that Dreamcast, you really can STILL play PSO. I think it takes a little rigging though to get a fan server. (Plenty of old MMOs actually have fans running private servers for them so people can still enjoy them. Like one of the older Star Wars ones.)
Tbf, the lip sync in the cutscenes were more reflective of the JP audio more than the EN audio
Surely Bubsy also went to 2d too soon. And tv too soon with that pilot. And games generally too soon. And basically out of the idea stage too soon. But hey, what could possibly go wrong?
It would have been best for this world if Bubsy remained as 0-dimensional point. Preferably somewhere out of the way.
Gizensha Fox His creator changed genres too soon. He was known for his amazing text based adventure games, but he wanted to make a platformer.
His boss said, "Don't! Stick to making stories that's all your good at.".
He kept bothering him until he finally gave in. Leading him to create Bubsy.
In the long run that boss wasn't wrong. Yet he still gave in. If only he didn't.
Don't you mean "what could PAWssibly go wrong?"
I'm not sorry.
Nathan-DTS Well the difference is that Bubsy thought he was better than anyone. The other's just had attitude.
Ow.
When someone hears the new contra game
Child: oooh I can’t wait
*contra legacy of war comes out*
Child: mom I have a headache
Mom: how long have you been playing?
Child: 2 minutes
Ellen seems to be asking why Lex Luthor didn't just go all I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream on Superman. That's pretty dark for her...
I wonder if she's sealed Evil Ellen inside of her? Maybe that's why we've only seen Evil Luke.
Maybe it is evil Ellen, only... she's not actually very evil.
Well, what about evil Ellen from the magical suitcase? Nobody seems to remember her, which is weird...
Well, uh... I don't even remember what episode that was. But didn't they once say that Jane had made a bunch of clones? Maybe all of Ellens clones are evil, but some less so.
I can't believe that there is so much lore on these damn channels.
Well she was talking about parallel and evil dimensions at the start of the episode. Maybe there's something she's not telling us?
The oxbox-tra lore is confusing indeed...
The Gameboy wasn’t the original version of Tetris by a long shot.
True, but it did help make the game a worldwide favorite.
And Street Fighter 2 wasn't the first Street Fighter, but nobody remembers the original.
True, but due to it being a pack-in game, its definitely the one that most people immediately think about. Which to me is weird, considering the NES version is the one used at competitions. Or at least it used to be, not sure about these days.
I felt like I was in Terminator's fever dream when I was watching the 3D Tetris gameplay.
Is that what electric sheep look like?
It may be a stretch, but I still remember the day when I discovered that Tekken 6 had ditched their 1 on 1 arcade mode, in favor of an isometric beat 'em up style "story mode". The two worst parts though: 1. That "story mode" was how you unlocked all the characters so you had to play through it, and 2. The control scheme was still the same as the original arcade mode! So thanks OXtra for making me relive those traumatising memories, now if you will excuse me, I need to go remove them again with some of Mike's Brain Bleach
If I had my way, Bubsy wouldn't exist in any dimension.
Definitely looked and sounded like a horrifying transporter accident involving Bugs Bunny and Konker.
Too bad. Bubsy exists in the seventh dimension all the way down. Good luck escaping it.
+Jake Huffman
Thank god I exist in the Eighth dimension. This Bubsy creature you speak of sounds horrifying.
But the 7th dimension is the one where all worlds start with different initial conditions. Surely there must be one of them where Bubsy doesn't happen.
Blue Coyote Just think, there is probably a dimension where some idiot makes a real life bubsy... cat thing....
I think Sonic made a perfectly fine jump to 3D with Sonic Adventure. I mean, it's not a perfect game and it's riddled with flaws, but it's a good game. Sure, by today's standards, it hasn't held up, but at the time, it was a really good game for what it was. Its sequel was even better, though.
Came from the future to agree. Still am a fan of the Adventure Series.
Oh Sonic Adventure 2. Augh. OH MY GOD.
@@hudsondzc The game that doomed the Sonic The Hedgehog series. At least the immediate mainline follow-up, Sonic Heroes, was a good idea, albeit one somewhat marred by its execution.
Correction: Its sequel WOULD'VE been better if they'd gone right back to basics instead of going for artificial Hero/Dark balance and doubling down on what was decidedly un-Sonic-esque about it (playstyles having nothing to do with high-speed athleticism-worked for SA1's story as Chaos created complications but not SA2's as that shit was over; upgrade items-bad enough that they kill pacing in order to give their finders either moves that they should naturally have ITFP because they're hyper-athletic zip-by ravagers or highly bizarre and situational bullshit but now demand that you comb main gameplay stages for them often necessitating obscenely offtrack detours inappropriate for a series themed around fast heroism; increased emphasis on humans other than Eggman-not that that's inherently bad as it communicates the series's world, just that it doesn't need to be an overbearing trait).
I love the SA games
This was just a reminder that Bubsy got a revival game, but Earthworm Jim is still dead. That's kinda depressing...
wHos eArThwOrm jIM? is He a fOrtnIte skIn??
edit: nvm I’m kinda sad now all of my friends have no idea who Jim is
He's getting a new game.
Y2 Commenter wait WHAT!!!
@@seanshogun1957 Not lying
There was Earthworm Jim HD on the PS3, so it hasn’t been dead completely.
Pulsating wireframe organs is so hilariously troubling 😂 I re watch this video just for that
I guess all love for these series is...
*Poly-gone*
Bailey Alexis Snow bu dum tsss
God Damn it Barb.
Darth Fenrir489 Wrong Channel
+Bailey Alexis Snow
.. ...oh dear.. ...
this joke goes on game theory with all of matpats other jokes
“The one in the cinema that sprays you with water”
I’ve been to one and when they sprayed water I just thought “wtf, so 4D is just being sprayed with water?!”
Ellen may be a terrible punster but, all in all, she's a good egg.
I GET IT!
Her?
*(shudders in Egg Room flashbacks)*
Sonic Adventure was actually a really smooth transition as it brought the series to it's highest point and captured momentum and platforming perfectly. And this is 1998, that wasn't too soon at all. Sonic 3D blast was shit but why would you use Adventure? It's a really polished game and still holds up today
Yes! Sonic Adventure and its secqual are the few good 3d Sonic games. They actually got worse as graphic got better.
@@eriakuswiftwindz7041 -its sequel- Sonic Heroes
SA2 was a third of a good game at most bound to a crappy story. SH was a good game despite being uncharacteristically difficult to learn for a Sonic game.
I like SA as well, but NO WAY IN HELL is it polished. Camera problems, clipping glitches, and stilted cutscene construction abound, plus the English translation is woefully generic and hampered by past lore changes, along with the lip sync being infamously uncorrected for the (actually mostly serviceable) English voice work.
Its highest point? You have to be joking.
Mike, have you ever seen a hedgehog? They have a gigantonormous amount of spikes! Sonic is basically bald!
Hedgehogs don't have ANY spikes.
UGU Zach, they do, unless you want to call them quills or spines, but it's basically the same
Ironic Dutch Moonshade Technically, they have incredibly coarse hair, not quills like a porcupine.
UGU Zach We must change the Wikipedia article now. It describes them as quills, hair and spines.
SgtSupaman Technically they're actually hairballs. I saw my cat cough one up once. Got it some milk and it started cursing at me, calling me every name under the sun. Apparently I was the only one who didn't know hedgehogs shouldn't have milk. Ungrateful little sod. Anyway, long story short he's in a sanctuary now, against his will unfortunately but it's best for both of us.
Sonic Adventure was brilliant. Miles miles better than SA2. The camera issue really is a minor issue.
SA2 DX on the gamecube was highly praised which is funny. Anyways they definitely are wrong about SA
Now when you say Miles...
Luke: "wild wild west"
andy: (in the back) *wickita wa, wickita wa wa!!*
Outside xtra went 3D too soon, the original platformer was way better! and even then it had nothing on the graphic novel *it* was based on, and *that* was based on an ancient proverb about a tall and small wizard making lists about moving paintings
The best of those, of course, were the extended, entire-cave-network-long paintings of the saber-tooth cat making wordless, delighted saber-tooth cat noises over smaller, fluffier saber-tooth cats.
...Although you know what's horrible about that? Cave networks, being dark, underground, and with many places to go undisturbed, are good habitats for spiders. Which would mean that saber-cat Ellen would have spiders on her and that is not fair. Maybe we SHOULD start at the OutsideXBayeux Tapestry.
There was this zero dimensional point of spacetime, and it could not contain the awesomeness of Small and Tall, and it decided to go 3D. Violently. Bigly. They called it the Big Bang...
I grew up with the 90’s Outside Xbox Extended Universe comics, and at first I was miffed that Ellen wasn’t a ten year old boy like the one I grew up with, but this genderbent and agebent version has grown on me.
I miss the fluffier saber-tooths, so much better than these freaks in chairs
I agree
You got a problem with Sonic Adventure, then you've got a problem with me. Now I suggest you let that one marinate!
I'll defend it too. Am I allowed to bring items from other games?
Jane obviously wasn't there when Ellen listed the dimensions or she would probably would have bursted in space knowledge.
Jane would have been upset by ellen calling a dimension a plane. Planes have two dimensions ... and too many snakes.
Sableagle ahahahahahah
Jane would have been mad, because Ellen mention the evil Dimension, which might make people realize Jane has been experiment with means to open a portal to.
Andy worked for the Pun-Police all along?
I'm disapointed but not surprised
Those 2d orbs? We call those circles, Ellen. Circles.
I was looking for this comment. Thank you.
I loved sonic adventure as a kid.
Given that Bubsy 3D is what finally killed off the Bubsy series, one _could_ argue that it went 3D too _late._
And if you actually LIKED the series and weren't offput by the transitioning to 3D? OH GOD THAT VOICE You were outta there faster than Sonic left idling on Little Planet.
i mean did it if we got another bubsy game
Theres a new Bubsy now!
@@SurprisinglyDeep name?
@@eetuthereindeer6671 'Bubsy: The Woolies Strike Back' released in 2017 for PC and PS4. Shockingly, it's not that good and is mostly cashing in on name recognition.
“ Bubsy’s latest 3D adventure is Bubsy 3D for the PS1 “
Bubsy: The Woolies Strike Back: Am I a joke to you?
How about "(X) Times You Didn't Play As the Main Character"?
One would have to be the side-quest in Majora's Mask where you play as Kafei
Mother 3 and maybe Bowser's Inside Story
Probably they would choose something like Clank or Daxter's solo game.
Witcher 3
I actually love earthworm Jim and sometimes I wonder how the earthworm Jim franchise might’ve been different if earthworm Jim 3-D did better
Be careful playing with the Subscribe Orb at the end there, Ellen: 2-D objects in a 3-D world are *very* sharp.
...I loved Flatland.
"Your brain is only looking out for you." We, however, are not!
That Bubsy game looks like what would happen if a kindergartner vomitted up a box of crayons.
Hilarious. And yet if I saw that when a kindergartner vomited I'm pretty sure I'd scream.
Sonic Adventure was Buggy and a bit odd.
Sonic Adventure 2 was utterly amazing.
Sonic Colors is the best Sonic game made that's not completely 2D side scrolling.
Ryan Jackson Hell no. Even if Sonic Adventure 1 and/or Sonic Adventure 2 never existed, Sonic Generations and Sonic Unleashed are still better than Sonic Colors.
Annelid jokes? That one fell a little flat
(Flat worm jokes. Someone appreciate this)
(10 months later...) ha ha
I appreciated it.
What I love about this channel is that they don't go with the basic expected thing for every entry. You expect all the worst games to pop up, all the infamous ones, then the first one is a virtual boy title. I love it.
You really must change that t-shirt, Luke, you extinct terribly!
It works on so many levels.
+TheFunnyhouston
.. ...you gotta be kitten me.. ....
When you fill the entire board on Tetris except one column, then it gives you 5 lines in a row. 😲
Tetris got reintroduced into virtual reality at least on the PlayStation 4. Looks pretty damn amazing.
I was slowly dozing off watching that superman 64 gameplay. Jesus is that boring
It's Pilotwings without the fun.
DerekBarns You mean it's Hell without the Marvel. 😂
Hah, try the Atari 2600 Superman game if you want to know true pain.
Also, the Earthworm Jim cartoon was great.
James Burgess enjoy flying through rings, cause you will
Not to mention the controls were a nightmare.
It’s funny I was watching this while playing God of War, possibly one of the most high definition games to date.
as a famous man once said "superman he flies through the rings superman he does other things, just kidding it's all that he does and he's not even good, it's all that he does and he's not even goooood"
I see that we are on the same wavelength when it comes to peanut butter, and the gaming thereof.
Ayyy i love pbg
Think of that song to the tune of Sonic SatAm
Where's my ridable asteroid? I will go ALL IN without considering the consequences of one; Of course, there isn't any because new is ALWAYS great.
Astroids, pong and centepede
New video idea: 7 villians whose evil plans were doomed from the start.
Christopher Dempsey gruntilda and her sisters in banjo tooie
Keep up the good work guys! I love your lists and your silly jokes. btw... I love you Ellen xDD You are my favorite of the entire cast!
4:28 _o no_
So *THAT* is where that sound effect came from! xD
That person playing Superman 64 in the B roll footage is fucking GAMING. What a beast.
Cracking egg pun Ellen it was the yoke of the century and was Hen-dled correctly
Dino Dive what the shell is wrong with you? Those puns aren't as eggcellent as you think
The joy on mike’s face when he even mentions setting something on fire... ^_^
I'm not sure why but looking at the 3D Tetris made me feel sick to my stomach
Them Virtual Boy graphics....
Yeah I had a tough time w/ that segment too.
Imagine it when your entire field of view is filled with it. Oh and the Virtual Boy had a stand, so you had to crane forward at an awkward angle while playing it. Migraine and motion sickness inducing is the mildest complaint.
That's an intended mechanic.
You're not alone
What about Monkey Island 4? It killed Monkey Island until Telltale Games made a new game.
... um... sorry about the pedantry, but orb and sphere are two words for the same 3d object. The word you were looking for, Ellen, is circle.
"If your perfect superhero fantasy is flying jerkily through hoops and occasionally punching, fill your boots".
This would have been a perfect premise for a game based on Crufts.
10 years from now: 7 times a series went virtural too soon, argh my virtual eyes
That superman ring flying is actually impressive
A Mads Mikkelsen reference? Wait a minute, did Jane write this script?!
I thought she only had control over OXbox...Run OXtra, RUN!!
I guess Superman games are just SUPER bad.
Not even I know if I put any effort into that.
*looks at Megaman, shudders, looks away*
Caitlin RC megaman legends actually good. For me anyway 😆
Megaman Legends was awesome.
I too enjoyed the mega man ledgends games.
I think he means megaman X7 guys, that game is actual trash.
I too enjoyed Megaman 64, which is just Legends on the N64
Ah yes I remember a 3D Tetris, wow.
More games with cows please and thankyou.
Bubsy 2D was wonderful.
So many classics.
Next Video: Games that went 3D too late
Mick M VR that’s too VR
My first game was Ratchet and Clank. MAN i love that game...
Mick M idk what game does that like GTA? Maybe
Minecraft
Poor Ellen, always getting dragged off...
Err, what?
Angel Beats is a great anime!
Haha, I wouldn't know. :P The name's a coincidence.
This comment chain was a roller coaster.
The ride never ends.
Whoever came up with "put an annelid on it" needs a raise and to have their own pun-based spinoff channel
Talking about superman and nineties weirdness, did you know that Tim Burton was to direct a superman movie starring Nicholas cage? It never got made but check out the production art online. It'll blow your mind.
Good luck for dnd live btw
Earthworm Jim 3D is a masterpiece and nobody will convince me otherwise.
I worry for the day OutsideXtra goes 3D. Just imagine Luke's charading in 3D...those arms reaching out the screen towards you.
Yet still adorably uncoordinated, though
You're reaching with Sonic Adventure. It was good then and still decent today. By no way a bad 3d game especially compared to other 3d adventure games at the time. I really dont follow you with that one
yeah, the only problem with it for me was the camera, thats it
They probably misspelled Sonic '06.
Who looked at teris and thought "you know what this needs? another dimention"
Now i've seen this though, my mind is considering how a 4D Tetris would work.
Dropping hypercubes from a higher dimension, trying to complete cuboid "planes", getting a line of 4 hypercubes to wipe in one go makes that satisfying squee noise.... oh I need a sit down now
Was still an interesting idea though
No, this is how 4D Tetris would be:
(insert Tetris for 3DS in 3D here)
"whats that smell" was it...jur-ass?-ic!
I agree Luke love the t-shirt
Contra: legacy of war actually looks more fun than the new one, Contra: rogue corps
Ellen you should be arrested for reminding me of Superman 64
LITTLE DID YOU KNOW BUBSY GOT ANOTHER GAME LAST YEAR
W H A T ?
I was actually surprised not to see the Castlevania games from the 64 on this list.
Also, I think you should take this same basic concept and make 2 new lists. A list of game series that actually got better after switching to the third dimension, and a list of game series that for weird reasons went from 3D to 2D (like Resident Evil: Gaiden ..... sorry, just cringed a little).
Actually, not surprised. Those games weren't as bad as people say they were and at the time there was far worse 3d outings than castlevania.
I had so much fun with Earthworm Jim when i was a kid. It was my first 3D game on a PC.
sooo.... what your telling me, is that the ending of Contra: legacy of war is what inspired the plot of that Final Fantasy movie....
*Someone get out the brain bleach*
There's a final fantasy movie?
Also, ALL HAIL THE MAGNIFICENT HIGH KING! VIEWER OF MANY TH-cam VIDEOS!
One word: Gorillaz.
They turned 3D *way* too soon.
The Medic lmao
I can hardly believe that a list like that skipped "Worms" series... I mean sure, the graphics were still very much Worm-like, so this was easy on the eyes, but the third dimension turned a simple, funny, enjoyable artilery game into control nightmare with weird camera angles, giving one the impression said camera had a mind of its own (sure hope that WASN'T a foreshadow for SkyNet or something :D). As a result, the player couldn't properly execute the easiest shots and not in a funny way, turning the game into more of a chore than a pleasant skirmish that ended friendships ^^'
This also affected the eyes though as the camera had the tendency to suddenly jump from one view to the other, making players dizzy or, at the very least, greatly confused. Certainly, much like many of this list's entries, "Worms" don't need 3D.
I agree! Worms was best in 2D!😁
Yeah, I was expecting to see Worms 3D in the list... Best example.
Leisure suit Larry, the art went from pretty good to horrifying in that jump. I REFUSE TO BE TURNED ON SIERRA!!! TRY AGAIN!!!
I would have thought the little known Sonic R would be on this list
Good call. I had a demo of that game, was not good, a racing game where you can only run (slowly) as the world draws in about 10 feet in front of you. Yeesh.
Jam Dev and don't forget about turning
Yep
Yeah, Sonic Adventure wasn't the first 3D Sonic game.
but, like with so many others, we have plenty of Gems in the music. We got Super Sonic Racing out of it, and I still listen to the City track from time to time.
2:34 is the best part of this video xD I died laughing repeated that part 50 times
Of course, back in my day we had it tough. None of this 2D malarky. We had text adventures and even though you could GO NORTH, LOOK UP or KILL GOLLUM WITH SWORD (the ring's mine now you little froggy wierdo!) we didn't really have anything bar one dimension and that was time. Lots and lots of time. Mostly spent waiting for stuff to load of tape, go wrong, swear at the cassette deck and then start again.
You very clearly cannot get ye flask.
Man, the images in that Hobbit game took forever to draw in. Infocom text games were much more fun because of that.
I feel you on the tape drive. Tunnels of Doom on the TI99-4A for me. I’d describe it as a modem handshake noise that squeals on for three to five minutes, but fewer and fewer people were ever exposed to that sound. Which makes me feel old. And that’s coming from someone who played Stone Age games like Oubliette and Empire on PLATO networked machines as a kid.
The Harry potter tie ins, the chamber of secrets on gbc was an excellent little pixelated 2d adventure, and immediately after that any of the handheld versions were automatically a trainwreck
Bud Fensler? It can only be him.
I remember being a kid and renting superman 64 from Blockbuster. I was so excited to play it and then never made it past the flight training. Lol took me years to learn there was also punching in the game, thanks O|X for showing me what I was missing 😁
There is a 3d tetris? WHAT? WHY?
Because 3D!
Virtual boy. Unfortunately.
There was a 3D version on the PC called Welltris back in 89.
And yet nobody cares about the one for 3DS...
"Some things get better with age, like a bottle of wine or the actor Mads Mikkelsen "
I feel you, Mike
I'm saying ARGH my eyes cause it's 3:30am here in Australia and I can't sleep but still bless my lucky stars that I caught this upload, cause man do I love you guys. This vid will give me sweet, sweet 2D dreams
Spheres are 3D, Ellen! Circles are 2D. But there's a magic dance after that, so all is forgiven.
Hey I kinda like Wild Wild West
I like how the 2 female hosts from both extra/box have nearly identical voices
Sonic adventure was tight. Wtf
I honestly enjoyed earth worm Jim 3d From my childhood I know game isn't received very well but I'd like to play it again for nostalgic reasons.
It seems to me that Earthworm Jim only failed because of its poor eggsecution.
I know this isn't a Rooster Teeth video but GODDAMMIT BARB
Booooo
Boo
Earth worm jim was absolutely fucking epic
I liked Contra Legacy of War.
Fight me.