George RR Martin on Creating Outcasts
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A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Author George R. R. Martin Interview on Outcasts and more
One thing that totally went wrong when the show ran out of source material was that it became good guys vs bad guys. The books didn't really have just good vs bad, there were a lot of grey characters. Good characters doing bad things and bad characters doing a good deed and stuff like that and that faded away in the show and it became a good vs evil sort of show which was definitely not how the world was built
Except for one of the major complaints people have being a supposedly redeemed character (Jaime) doing something bad
You are right - things really changed when they ran out of source material
@@joelskelley2625Except that not the complaint at all. The complaint is that a character's entire personality was changed in a single instance in a completely illogical way. Jaime killed the Mad King for the people of King's Landing, him suddenly saying he never cared about him makes zero sense.
Good dynamic between interviewer and guest. Makes a better experience for the listener.
He had read the material, unlike others. And didn’t call the series ‘Game of Thrones’ either!
So it’s bloody Stan Lee’s fault for killing Ned 😡
And the red wedding 🤔
@@joemc7614 And Jon's death.
And every fan favorite death in ASoIaF
Tolkien too.
Good quality videos, love your choice of interview cuts, keep them coming!
I am. It's in a historical fantasy I'm trying to write that's set in the Roman Empire.
Who ever says that the tropes of the heroes journey aren't present in Martin's work ether doesn't know the heroes journey or doesn't knows Martin's work… They're messy, they're not linear or sometimes clear, but they're there
"That was a frequent practice in the middle ages. When you didn't trust one of your underlords or an enemy who had bent the knee, you took some of his children as wards or hostages."
"If his father creates trouble he's to be hung".
I think this is the true nature of Quentyn Martell's "fostering" w/the Yronwoods, as arranged by Jon Arryn on King Robert's behalf. Unbeknownst to King Robert (and the outside world). As punishment for harbouring an infant Daenerys. This arrangement was the best way to save an already war torn Westeros from another civil war so soon after the rebellion, to protect the life of young Dany (who would've been immediately expelled from Dorne/sent to Braavos), and ensure Prince Doran's cooperation. And like Theon, perhaps Quent was motivated to pull an incredibly foolhardy move like stealing the dragons (in Theon's case taking Winterfell) because his desperation to impress/prove himself to his estranged father outweighed his logic.
PS- The Hound is the best outcast character in my humble opinion.
@@Munciboss oh haha thanks. It's a bit tinfoil but it's fun!
that makes sense. I always wondered why Quentyn would be fostered with the Yronwoods when Doran planned for him to rule Dorne.
btw, do you believe in the Gravedigger theory, and do you think The Hound will make another appearance in the books?
Sounds good to me! Also, 100% agreed about the Hound - Sandor Clegane is an awesome character.
@@deg1studios Yes, and yes. I'm also hoping that The Hound's long-lost sister will make an appearance as well.
1:55 GRRM crocodile noise
5:08 "I have lost interest in the predictable stories" that is how our once beloved GOT ended!
i love theon man my wife hates him, i understand his struggle trying to find his place in this world
Theon's chapters in Dance are my favourite.
He is weak and paid for it!
grrm himself said that he was surprised by some women liking theon. theon is not supposed to be likeable, he's narcissistic and he used to treat women like shit. we can understand him but it's more difficult to like him as a person
Phew, that makes me fear for your wife tbh.
@@sarahmunson1778 What a stupid comment.
i love these videos.... fills that GOT-shaped hole in my heart
Arya totally went on the heros journey. brien of tarth as well i would say, in the most medieval of senses.
Great interviewer
I love this channel.
DC was in order, and then the DCAU came along and made everything interesting. ❤️
I’ve only just listened to a few of your videos. I love them, they are so expertly done. You’ve turned me into a subscriber of your channel. Thank you for that. Keep doing what your doing, your brilliant at it.
I would love to know what George would think of Berserk
He’d probably really like it.
@@BalthazarBullmannidk about that has too much magic to his liking probably
I find too cringy to see artwork where characters are essentially represented as their actors in the show. I enjoy watching how other people (artists) imagine the characters in their heads.
That’s fine if thats what you prefer but you don’t have to cringe about it.
I’ve always enjoyed fan art based more off the books than the movies or shows
I much prefer looking up fan art from the books for inspiration for imagining the characters in my head, I try very hard to separate the books characters looks from the actors in the show. They book characters are way younger than they’re portrayed in the show so that makes it a bit easier
@@skippy562 you cant decide wether you cringe or not lmfao
yeah literally like to me the thumbnail is pretty much exactly how i see Tyrion
Interesting art.
Replicating these feelings but this time no cheating.
He replicated the feeling of Gandalf dying with Eddard Stark being beheaded and staying that way; then, as a parallel to Frodo, Jon is stabbed to death but will then be brought back to life, albeit as a hollower version of his past self.
would be really great if you posted where you got these snippets from.. then we could we could and listen to the full interviews afterwards :)
I’d love to hear what he thinks bout watchmen or any of Allen moore’s stuff for that matter
3:52 lower right: Chewbacca
Would you consider writing a character who's blind and can see through a dragon's eyes?
no
maybe you should write that, it's a cool idea.
@@progfrogg Iam____sort of. It's in one of my books. However, back in 1985, horror novelist Stephen King wrote a children's novel called Dragon's Eyes which centered on Randall Flagg, the villain of The Stand, and his successful attempt to corrupt a kingdom. One of the characters, a prince, sees him through dragon's eyes.
@@blaircolquhoun7780 hey dude, don't let that stop you. its often said there are no original ideas but original ways to execute a story (although i disagree with that first part of the phrase, there are obviously many original ideas still yet to come) but go for it, tell a story only you can tell.
@@progfrogg Thank you. I will sometime.
Greeting which interview is this segment culled from?
Where is the interview from?
it's from Conversation with Richard Fidler
This been sped up wtf?
3:23
I'm so angry because i can never understand a word bECAUSE THE SUBTITLES ARE JUST IN ENHLISH AND I'M CHILEAN
what why are there no mexican subtitles
@@StockpileThomas1 Because there is no such thing as a Mexican Language.
@@maksimnikiforovski2034 that's not true I speak fluent Mexican I'm also learning both asian and European
Well then stop being Chilean. Ever think about that?
19th view and first comment. I've never been this early
And?
Whoopty Doo for you!!
Congratulations