even though it is a normal spell it can only activate in the standby phase. Weird card rulings and interactions. most cards that trigger in standby only are continuous or quick play. so the card had to be set for a turn before it could be played.
I’m pretty sure if he just changes his card effect activation thing from auto to on it’ll let him do it during the standby phase. Since it goes from draw to standby to main phase.
@@jordanjones4784 This only works with quick-play cards as you can play them straight from the hand, regular spells need to be placed on the field and since you can't play things during standby phase it means the spell card needed to already be set on the previous turn.
No if you read the card and look at Rhyme field. Rhyme had 1 face down monster and the card requires face up monsters. So if one face down monster exist then you can't use the spell until they flip the monster face up.
I threw out logic out of the window a long time ago when it's about Master Duel when cards that excplicitly states that they cannot be activated during battle phase are just not true at all and can be activated whenever the fuck it wants.
Curse of Fiend was made before Quick Play spells, so it needs to be set during a Main Phase, like a Normal Spell, but it can only be activated during a Standy Phase(and only after it has been set). So as it stands it functions more like a very , very, bad Trap than anything else.
Also in that set are rush recklessly, tailor of the fickle, and the reliable guardian...so why exactly could curse of fiend not also have been a quickplay?
@metalmario1231 You're right! It came exactly as we got Quick Play Spells even in the OCG lol, i got the dates mixed up! This makes the restriction even stranger, since they knew they had Quick Play spells.
The only reason i could think of is that it's in the same set as Quick Play spells, but designed before they were codified and they never changed it, maybe thinking the restriction was fair. But still, it could have been a Trap with no change of functionality, its just.... a very odd card.
Question: did Tyree finally break up with you because of all the Pharaoh abuse you gave him in your duels? It's been a hot minute since the two of you have duel one another, lmao.
@@rhymestyle You were missing out. I always used it back then, as well as the Sacred Phoenix. One of my best moves was using Scapegoat at the end of my opponents turn and, on mine, summoning Hand of Nephthys to call out the Phoenix.
Curse of Fiend can only be activated while it's set during the standby phase. There's no reason why this is the case. Also, Scapegoat always had that restriction lol
Scapegoat has disallowed summoning additional monsters the turn it is activated since its initial printing in starter deck joey. The card text has been reworded throughout the years but its effect has never changed.
In nightmare troubadour I have my psycho circus deck, using dream and crass, with sagi, mysterious puppeteer, illusionist faceless mage, reflect rebounder and copycat with cards like magic cylinder and gravity bind to keep my opponents from attacking. Swords of revealing light and polymerization for bickuri box was another fun maneuver too.
Just hit Plat yesterday using Armed Neos. Don't think I'll ever go past that since I use 0 hand traps and no meta cards. I rather not be stuck in Runick, Tearlament, Spright and Branded hell.
So... no, scapegoat didn't get that in an errata, it has always been like that, what people normally do is to activate it at the end of their opponent's turn but it is a fact that it always had that restriction
I hate scapegoat with a passion. Back when Yu-Gi-Oh was still new. I was in my first ever tournament. I was roughly 13 years old okay. I got to the semi-finals. I was super excited! Well I lost because the Ahole I vs used scapegoat and tributed them to summon Blue Eyes and killed me. On the card it says you cannot tribute. I had a judge come up to confirm that. He said I was in the wrong and that he tributed monsters. Without the judge knowing it was scapegoat and said it was okay. I even showed him the card he used for it. Judge said that the person who tributed was correct. Well that same person who beat me, they won the tournament. It wasn't till afterwards that I found out the Judge was his brother too. So know to this day I hate scapegoat with a full passion from my heart because people cheated to win with it.
Either rhymestyle a really really reaaallllyyyy bad duelist or he threw that last game. Cuz if he summoned apprentice magician breaker wouldve gotten a counter again, and u could've just broke his set card and win cuz u have econ to protect from any attack next tuen n bam u win smh 😢
Also do a duel with that Chazz deck where he like couldn’t use a monster stronger than 500Atk Vs that deck that Yusei had to use in 5D’s when he’s in prison where he won the duel without attacking. Lmk
He couldnt play the spell cause it is a normal spell, the game mechanics prevent you from playing a normal spell from hand during your standby. It is just like when they originally released counter counter as a normal trap that could only be used on counter traps, and was therefor unplayable cause normal traps cant respond to counter traps.
Y’all should do a Bracket of worst structure decks. So like whoever loses B/c the deck is trash use that against an even worse deck that’s hard to use. And see foreal which deck is Absolute unuseable. Lmk
It didn't work because the standby phase occurs before your draw phase. Hence when you draw that was your standby phase already passing that turn. Hence why you have to set it first to actually be able to activate it the next turn if not later.
Everyone forgets the first effect of apprentice magician rhyme would have won lol he could have normal summoned it put the spell counter on breaker then hit the cylinder
So deion just pulled out the sagi the dark clown figure from his stone tablet duel episode that just went up today not important just wanted to bring that up
My favorite part of these videos is it’s less of a “Who’s deck beats who’s?” And more of a “Who can misplay the least?” Type duel
LMFAO TRUE
@@rhymestyle
CL1 Nephthys: a recurrent boss monster with on summon Destruction that took 2 tributes to make… “CL2 SCAPEGOAT”
@@rhymestyleIf you do a raid do it without healing, also love you videos
@@TrevorAllenMD Is that the name of it
Came for the duels, stayed for the PETEN
Pehhhhyytaannnnnn
that was annoying as hell
🤣 something about rhyme losing to a magical cylinder from both doto and seereax is just funny as hell
thats funny when it happens to anyone except maybe urself
@@TheKidblazer1It's absolutely still funny
Man MD should really do a tournament with just old cards.
i agree
@@rhymestyle I mean Legend Anthology is all fun and games until you get Accesscode Talker first turn.
@@gambitgamblesidk y but this had me dying of laughter. Thank you I needed that
PEEEEEEEEEEEETEN!!!😂😂😂
They can't really do that with all the old school banned cards, you know, being banned.
Scapegoat has always had that effect. Thats why people played it on their end phase or when they are attacking, lol
Bro, this Seereax face will never get old 😂😂
More Yugioh let’s gooo ❤
even though it is a normal spell it can only activate in the standby phase. Weird card rulings and interactions. most cards that trigger in standby only are continuous or quick play. so the card had to be set for a turn before it could be played.
I’m pretty sure if he just changes his card effect activation thing from auto to on it’ll let him do it during the standby phase. Since it goes from draw to standby to main phase.
@@jordanjones4784 This only works with quick-play cards as you can play them straight from the hand, regular spells need to be placed on the field and since you can't play things during standby phase it means the spell card needed to already be set on the previous turn.
No if you read the card and look at Rhyme field. Rhyme had 1 face down monster and the card requires face up monsters. So if one face down monster exist then you can't use the spell until they flip the monster face up.
@kurisu2003 wait you confused me because when he activated it at 11:19 it flipped the face-down card face up as well. Can you please explain?
I threw out logic out of the window a long time ago when it's about Master Duel when cards that excplicitly states that they cannot be activated during battle phase are just not true at all and can be activated whenever the fuck it wants.
Rhyme getting beat by doto and seereax with magic cylinder is just as hilarious as Rhyme beating both of them with their own monsters
“I got in the mood to play old school yugioh, like I do ever… day or so.” Literally same.
fun fact while scapegoat did get errata'd several times, it always said that you can't summon any monsters the turn you activate it
Thank you for saying this, dude just kept blaming an imaginary errata on his misplay lmfaooo😊
😂gotta love seereax for showing his middle finger mid screen secretly 😂👏👏👏👏👏
Damn Rhyme really drew Depression ☹️
As far as im aware scapegoat has always been like that, thats why you should always activate it during the end phase of your opponent's turn
I can’t get enough of these two also it’s Peh-ten!
@rhymestyle you guys need to do a duel night type thing with fans id hop in with you guys all the time for classic or character deck duels haha
Curse of Fiend was made before Quick Play spells, so it needs to be set during a Main Phase, like a Normal Spell, but it can only be activated during a Standy Phase(and only after it has been set). So as it stands it functions more like a very , very, bad Trap than anything else.
I dont think thats true....its in magic ruler...the same set as mystical space typhoon.....a quickplay spell
Also in that set are rush recklessly, tailor of the fickle, and the reliable guardian...so why exactly could curse of fiend not also have been a quickplay?
spell speed 0 hahaha
@metalmario1231 You're right! It came exactly as we got Quick Play Spells even in the OCG lol, i got the dates mixed up! This makes the restriction even stranger, since they knew they had Quick Play spells.
The only reason i could think of is that it's in the same set as Quick Play spells, but designed before they were codified and they never changed it, maybe thinking the restriction was fair. But still, it could have been a Trap with no change of functionality, its just.... a very odd card.
Magic cylinder is this man’s bane.
Question: did Tyree finally break up with you because of all the Pharaoh abuse you gave him in your duels? It's been a hot minute since the two of you have duel one another, lmao.
LMAO
@@rhymestyle he obviously is just stuck in the shadow realm
Petan is seereax’s mascot card
Scapegoat actually always worked like that. I play Joey the Passion from 2005 and the card is the same there.
The fact that Magic Cylinder helped Deion and Doto is fucking hilarious 😂
to answer Deion's question, it's mostly just a chain of grenades.
I can't believe Rhyme is bullying a platinum player. Poor Seerax
Wha are you talking about ScapGoat always said that, I still got the joey starter deck copy of the card it never change
I thought Seereax was PNG at the beginning of the video. I got jumpscared when the PNG started moving.
I can’t believe Rhyme discovered Throwback Thursday. I feel like it’s gonna catch on very quick
Love old Yu-Gi-Oh, playing ranked and dealing with maxx c has hurt my soul and this is healing it.
The new event healed me from the tear curse.
I am sad it's ending soon :(
No i just finished the video HOW DID YOU GET MAGIC CILINDERED AGAIN RHYME 😭😭😭
still waiting on orange piccolo summons lmao
Scapegoat has always worked like that
yeah i guess i just forgot. I never used scapegoat as a kid
@@rhymestyle You were missing out. I always used it back then, as well as the Sacred Phoenix. One of my best moves was using Scapegoat at the end of my opponents turn and, on mine, summoning Hand of Nephthys to call out the Phoenix.
Curse of fiend is acts like a trap. It has to be set to activate during SB phase. Its a weird card for sure.
Man's play is garbage old cards. Can't play meta decks like magical scientist otk
Or yatalock chaos
Seereax out here reminding us why we all feared clowns back in the day. Whether it be Pennywise or PETEN.
5:32 wtf did rhyme just say there 😂😂😂
Scapegoat has always said that people just activated during the opponents end phase
the curse of the fiend rulling is just so dumb bc its like a trap.. but if you have it in your hand and acitvate dust tornado that should work *lol
Rhyme really pulled the "Well, Well, Well if it isn't the consequences of my own actions." Throughout the entirety of that last duel.
Man played clown Control and didn't do a single clown Control effect...
Every vid "Insert line about Rhyme talking about loving old school Yugioh" 😂
this series never gets old
I don't understand yu gi oh much but why did rhyme creature swap his dd assailant in the 2nd match?
To answer Rhyme, I think that’s always been Scapegoat’s effect
Yeah you’re actually right!
Curse of Fiend can only be activated while it's set during the standby phase. There's no reason why this is the case.
Also, Scapegoat always had that restriction lol
Itsuki is Best Girl Day 50🔥🔥🔥
Eatsuki supremacy
PEH-TEN!! Rhyme, you and Seereax are among my top favorite Yugioh-tubers. Thanks so much for your videos, the both of you.
Seems like Magic Cylinder is the Bane of Rhymes existence in Old School Yu-Gi-Oh!
Imagine you walkin down the street and suddenly a clown slaps you while saying *paaten paaaaten*
That is not an errata....scapegoat has always worked like that
13:42 Meanwhile Petan the type of guy to phase shift, and literally stab you in the back. Its only 500 but that looked like it hurt for real.
Magic cylinder in the final moments is sheer gold 😂😂
Came for Rhyme, stayed for PEH-TEN
Great bluff from Seereax😂 fell for the bait
YOU ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD!!! DEPRESSION!
wha tha du?
It makes me automatically lose the duel
Scapegoat has disallowed summoning additional monsters the turn it is activated since its initial printing in starter deck joey. The card text has been reworded throughout the years but its effect has never changed.
morden Yugioh is all about negate which is why MOST of the epicness is no longer exists
13:54 The little "Peten" really made me laugh for a whole 20 minutes 😂😂😂
Shout-out to my boy PAATEN
Scapegoat has always had that text.
Me: Damn, them overdoing the peten joke is annoying. Hope they don’t draw it next game.
*draws it in the starting hand*
Me: fuck
Anyone else notice Seareax is high af at the beginning 😂
In nightmare troubadour I have my psycho circus deck, using dream and crass, with sagi, mysterious puppeteer, illusionist faceless mage, reflect rebounder and copycat with cards like magic cylinder and gravity bind to keep my opponents from attacking. Swords of revealing light and polymerization for bickuri box was another fun maneuver too.
PEHR-TEHN
Edit: Rhyme went from "I have a unique deck" to "What card can I add to f*** over his clowns?"
Just hit Plat yesterday using Armed Neos. Don't think I'll ever go past that since I use 0 hand traps and no meta cards.
I rather not be stuck in Runick, Tearlament, Spright and Branded hell.
So... no, scapegoat didn't get that in an errata, it has always been like that, what people normally do is to activate it at the end of their opponent's turn but it is a fact that it always had that restriction
I hate scapegoat with a passion. Back when Yu-Gi-Oh was still new. I was in my first ever tournament. I was roughly 13 years old okay. I got to the semi-finals. I was super excited! Well I lost because the Ahole I vs used scapegoat and tributed them to summon Blue Eyes and killed me. On the card it says you cannot tribute. I had a judge come up to confirm that. He said I was in the wrong and that he tributed monsters. Without the judge knowing it was scapegoat and said it was okay. I even showed him the card he used for it. Judge said that the person who tributed was correct. Well that same person who beat me, they won the tournament. It wasn't till afterwards that I found out the Judge was his brother too. So know to this day I hate scapegoat with a full passion from my heart because people cheated to win with it.
pätän
Rhyme literally beat his own ass the last game 😂😂😂 Two solemn judgements into magic cylinder played ya self 😂😂🤦🏾♂️
I just realized that Throwback Thrsday was Seereax thing when he played Ocarina of Time.
🤣🤣Man Idk why but just love when these dude play card games and I don't even like card games🤣🤣
Bring back the progression series coward. You can't hide from Pendulums forever.
P'TeN! For the win!
Either rhymestyle a really really reaaallllyyyy bad duelist or he threw that last game. Cuz if he summoned apprentice magician breaker wouldve gotten a counter again, and u could've just broke his set card and win cuz u have econ to protect from any attack next tuen n bam u win smh 😢
Rhyme when you gonna break your upload streak😂😂
who knows
Also do a duel with that Chazz deck where he like couldn’t use a monster stronger than 500Atk Vs that deck that Yusei had to use in 5D’s when he’s in prison where he won the duel without attacking. Lmk
He couldnt play the spell cause it is a normal spell, the game mechanics prevent you from playing a normal spell from hand during your standby. It is just like when they originally released counter counter as a normal trap that could only be used on counter traps, and was therefor unplayable cause normal traps cant respond to counter traps.
I mean why even have spots #2 and #4 on the duel field? They’re not playing link monsters! I don’t get it!
Talking about how Petin attacks just reminds me that in the movie, he straight up stabbed Yugi from behind.
Y’all should do a Bracket of worst structure decks. So like whoever loses B/c the deck is trash use that against an even worse deck that’s hard to use. And see foreal which deck is Absolute unuseable. Lmk
😂 "how did he know"cause you're predictable that's how it's not rocket science friend.
It didn't work because the standby phase occurs before your draw phase. Hence when you draw that was your standby phase already passing that turn. Hence why you have to set it first to actually be able to activate it the next turn if not later.
Everyone forgets the first effect of apprentice magician rhyme would have won lol he could have normal summoned it put the spell counter on breaker then hit the cylinder
Pehhhhyytaannnnnn
Idc if I'm in the middle of a vid I'll stop just to watch throwback Thursday
I though rymstyle was gonna win cuz his first hand and saw Seeranx hands but bruh Seeranx won holy moly
I really don't like the change in perspective. Can you release at least one video where you don't switch between duelists?
It's not a quick play, so it has to be set before you can activate, at least I am fairly certain
the way I would right the name is: "PEAten"
I won’t lie, the Yugioh duels are the best videos
I feel like PETEN would be that mofo who'd be about to get hit and say "Peten?"
PAAAAHHTEN🤣🤣🤣🤣You guys kill me man lmao
He couldn't play it because the card specifies that only spell or trap effects can switch positions of monsters the turn the card is activated
Early gang
My favorite part was when Deion said “PEHTEHN”
So deion just pulled out the sagi the dark clown figure from his stone tablet duel episode that just went up today not important just wanted to bring that up
nothing like workin and watch people get cooked, lets goo!
its me, im people
I'm pretty sure scapegoat never got errata, they just made the text clearer to understand, so the summon restriction was always there.
I just find out a good dog name... PEEHTEN. Thank You guys 😂
Hey rhyme you should do a buster blader vs bls duel
funny you ask. I was trying to figure out an old buster blader deck earlier today
I can't believe both Doto and Seereax magic cylinder you twice couldn't be me
You can tell it ain't February. Rhyme be on Deions bit! 🤣❤️
Seereax Peten slap was so funny wish I could like again 😂