A Plan Gone Wrong at Peach Tree Creek

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  • @sbishop6450
    @sbishop6450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Loving these not well known battles. You guys are so brilliant at bringing all this stuff to us. Thanks

  • @joannecarolyn5018
    @joannecarolyn5018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hello from Singapore 😊 I'm super interested in the history of the American Civil War! So much to learn and understand. This is absolutely my favourite go-to channel for maps and the battles which took place. Wonderful videos, guys! Thank you! 😊❤️❤️❤️🇸🇬

  • @merryfield66070
    @merryfield66070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good presentation- informative and enthusiastic. As a Kansan, I want to note that the 8th Kansas was there as part of Gibson's 1st Brigade in Wood's Third Division. Proud of 'em.

  • @kiltman1961
    @kiltman1961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My 3rd great grandfather fought with the 26th Alabama (O'Neal under Walthall) at Peachtree Creek. He lost his life here in a poorly executed attack. If you ever get to explore the west part (Springlake Park) of the battle line you will see how bad the terrain is in this area. Roller coaster terrain and very thick brush (Norfleet Rd just off Northside Dr.). The south side of this road is still pretty much like it was in 1864. The Confederates were moving thru this brush and couldn't see the Union troops until they were almost on top of them. But they were still attacking uphill and the Union troops firing down hill into their ranks.

  • @roynoccorina5022
    @roynoccorina5022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I miss you guys.

    • @tberkoff
      @tberkoff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      huh?

  • @rvail136
    @rvail136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My Civil War era ancestor and 5 of his 6 brothers were killed at Peach Tree Creek...in an Ohio Volunteer Regiment.

    • @MickeyJWind
      @MickeyJWind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      do you know the regiment? this seems very unlikely given where the Ohio units fought and generally low level of union dead for the forces engaged. such a loss at one place in brothers would surely also be a known story that is recorded with sources referencing it. if you have documented sources to back this up, it would be important historical note. if they all died during the war, it is very possible, but all at this engagement? highly unlikely for these reasons.

  • @dabml5222
    @dabml5222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow to talk about the New Jersey 33rd ,my Great grand father and his brother,were both captured. And then taken to Andersonville. Where my great grandfather survived and his brother died in the prison.

  • @jimmyjames9752
    @jimmyjames9752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    SAVE OUR BATTLEFIELDS AMERICA 🇺🇸

  • @BryanHistory
    @BryanHistory ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Harrison for the win! Future president!

  • @waltergibson9178
    @waltergibson9178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm hearing a lot of Hood apologists. He had been writing letters to Davis during most of the Atlanta Campaign asking to replace Johnson. He had pulled out of one of Johnsons few planned attacks against Sherman before he was near Atlanta. The army that he was given had not been decimated by futile frontal attacks against well defended positions. It did not have low moral because of serious defeats. A Cavalry raid by Nathan Bedford Forrest had turned Grants first attack against Vicksburg away and Sherman's line of communications was longer than Grant's. Why is it that modern historians are seem to be trying to say Hood wasn't that bad when every previous historians all blamed Hood? They are even saying the Battle of Franklin wasn't his fault. They are saying he had no choice but to attack even when all his Generals advised him not to attack.

  • @billywild5440
    @billywild5440 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this place. I live here. Hallowed ground always.

  • @bucktaylor6522
    @bucktaylor6522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cool this battle is the one that took the life of colonal Cobham from the 111th pa he was a local from warren pa

  • @johnkean2466
    @johnkean2466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Do I see the animations for an upcoming Atlanta Campaign map? Very excited if so!

  • @davidrutledge1482
    @davidrutledge1482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My gg grandfather, Francis Kirkus fought and was wounded at Peachtree Creek. He was only 15 years old. He was in the Georgia militia which was comprised of old men and boys

    • @zadubs1037
      @zadubs1037 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Georgia Militia eating goober peas

  • @johnresto1603
    @johnresto1603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Will youo visit where the battle of utoy creek too place? Great site and some actual remains left in Atlanta

  • @terryelrod5008
    @terryelrod5008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My ggg grandfather was wounded there with Scott's brigade.

  • @billywild5440
    @billywild5440 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for mentioning the Battle of Utoy Creek. It badly needs professional researching and documenting, but mentioning it helps put it on the map. Maybe some day ...

  • @samueladams3746
    @samueladams3746 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can confirm your comments on Coburn’s Brigade. Gg grandfather served in the 33rd IN (Coburns original command) In a short set of memoirs he left to us he relates their annoyance at seeing the pickets come tumbling back as they’d just gotten their dinners prepared. He did stop to pour his coffee into his canteen before going into line. He does reference a point where regiments on either side bent backward subjecting them to severe enfilade fire until they “shot down many of them, not two rods in our front”. I think this was the 33rd Mississippi as he mentions killing their color bearer and “starting them back”. It was a short, sharp and nasty engagement.

  • @johnresto1603
    @johnresto1603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thomas is the best field commander for the union army. He is the thrust for Sherman in the Atlanta campaign.

  • @wmschooley1234
    @wmschooley1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So let’s get this straight, John Bell Hood, a one arm one leg morphine using confederate Lt. General, on July 20, 1864 in his first engagement as the AoT commanding general looses to George Thomas at the battle of Peach Tree Creek. Then not quite five months later between December 15-16, 1864, Hood looses again to George Thomas at the battle of Nashville. And THEN Hood, after having his ENTIRE army eliminated as an effective force, asks to be relieved of command on January 23. 1965. Makes you think that Hood, second only to maybe Leonidas Polk was one of the best Union assets in the confederate high command.

    • @MickeyJWind
      @MickeyJWind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. but, his Tennessee strategy had merit, even though it did not pan out. as for Atlanta he lost, but he was aggressively trying to defend the city which he had little time to prepare for and was having to act based on pressure from politicians, particularly Davis, who put him in command for this reason and he had few other options. I find the criticism of Hood to be a bit over blown. He was backed into a corner... the same one Longstreet wanted to put Meade into by getting around his right at gettysburg. He is generally blamed for losing results, but he was put in a situation where winning was very unlikely. The only real criticism is his decision to attack at Franklin, which he did not need to do and then pursuing to Nashville when he probably should have fallen back and try to go after Sherman again defensively in the Carolinas while he still had a decent force to use. But, again he pushed on in no small part due to political pressures.

    • @charlesbenedict743
      @charlesbenedict743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MickeyJWind At Peachtree Creek, Hood failed to reconnoitor the rugged terrain in front of him which helped to doom him & his army.!

    • @wmschooley1234
      @wmschooley1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MickeyJWind Mr. Wind: An officer, being considered for the command of an army, doesn’t get there without political considerations being factored into the selection. Jefferson Davis had initially asked Robert E. Lee take command of the Army of Tennessee. But Lee refused not wanting to surrender command of the Army of Northern Virginia.
      Jefferson Davis's asked Lee for his opinion on promoting Hood to the command of the AoT. Robert E. Lee gave an ambiguous reply calling Hood "a bold fighter, very industrious on the battlefield, careless off"…Lee had a high opinion of Hood's "gallantry, earnestness, and zeal"…however, he remained "doubtful" as to whether Hood possessed all of the qualities necessary to command an army in the field.
      John Bell Hood’s AoT “selection board” essentially consisted of Jefferson Davis and Gen. Braxton Bragg. After Hood’s leg amputation and recovery in Richmond, Davis and Hood were close friends. Bragg’s interview and recommendation of Hood for command has to be assessed in light of Bragg’s bitter disagreements and resentments against General Hardee. Hood wasn’t “backed into a corner” Hood was exactly where he ambitiously wanted to be. He was going to be the Confederacy’s “glorious battle champion”. He was going to route union forces, drive them back North and save Atlanta and the Confederacy.
      At 33 years old, Hood was too young, too ambitious, too infirm, too quarrelsome and too reckless to be given command of the AoT. This was the core political mistake made by the politician Jefferson Davis. Even Hood himself, is one of his letters criticizing Johnston wrote:
      "I have, General, so often urged that we should force the enemy to give us battle as to almost be regarded reckless by the officers high in rank in this army”
      And Hood was perceived as reckless not only by himsel and within the CSA but also by the Union commander General Sherman who planned on and used Hood’s recklessness to the advantage of Union forces.
      Respectfully, W.S.

    • @markcrampton5873
      @markcrampton5873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lee's 5 word assessment of Hood is priceless ! " All lion and no fox ! "

    • @jamesmaclennan4525
      @jamesmaclennan4525 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hood is a perfect example of the Peter Principle A brilliant Brigade Commander, an adequate Divisional Commander with strong supervision but promoted above his ability in the West...and yet..in the great realm of What if..had his plan succeeded at Peach Tree Creek he would have been hailed as one of the greatest generals of the Confederacy

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    👍

  • @Daniel_Callie
    @Daniel_Callie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love all your incredible videos. Having trouble understanding Cris. He just has a voice better for classroom and not outdoor narration.

    • @LeeHoFooks
      @LeeHoFooks ปีที่แล้ว

      But you have no trouble with Gary?

  • @MarshaBonForte
    @MarshaBonForte หลายเดือนก่อน

    How could the town fathers allow these important battlefields be lost?

  • @timfrye3586
    @timfrye3586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A plan gone wrong when I have conceived it

  • @clandfaf
    @clandfaf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can someone help me in the direction to help donate towards American Battlefield preservation? Also interested in collecting civil war stamps and coins.

  • @nosammit1
    @nosammit1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Smyrna,Smeerna? Locals pronounce it Smerna.

  • @LeeHoFooks
    @LeeHoFooks ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Johnson did the best he could. Considering he was so badly outnumbered. Jefferson should have sent Forrest down to help.

    • @zadubs1037
      @zadubs1037 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that Grierson had Forrest tied up

  • @edwardclement102
    @edwardclement102 ปีที่แล้ว

    I disagree. I think Joe Johnston was in good mood and had a firm plan set up to fight Sherman at Atlanta, but was removed, Hood a great leader of combat troops was given command at a time he did not want the command, and despite hard fighting following some of Johnston"s advice he could not save Atlanta, Hood army did not work together well on the offensive, Johnston plan was a good one and he should have been kept in command, Hood as army commander was only planning not leading combat troops like he was great at.

  • @maggiej1213
    @maggiej1213 ปีที่แล้ว

    9/29/24 Correct pronunciation of “Smyrna” is not “Smeer-na.” It’s “Smur-na,” Chris Mackowski.😁

  • @bassmaster1953
    @bassmaster1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST WEEK, I HAVE HAD TO ENDURE THE INSULTING DESCRIPTION OF MY TWO ANCESTORS LEONIDAS POLK AND JOSEPH EGGLESTON JOHNSTON. COULD SOMEONE TEACH MACKOWSKI HOW TO PRONOUNCE JOHNSTON'S NAME?

    • @roynoccorina5022
      @roynoccorina5022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why don’t you tell us too.

    • @bassmaster1953
      @bassmaster1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roynoccorina5022 UH...WITH A
      'T".

    • @johnkean2466
      @johnkean2466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@bassmaster1953 with a T as in traitor, I never forget it!

    • @bassmaster1953
      @bassmaster1953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnkean2466 HE WAS ONE OF SHERMAN'S PALLBEARERS. A COMRADE OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. TRAITORS WERE EXECUTED AT THAT TIME. HE WAS CELEBRATED WITH THE HONOR OF CARRYING SHERMAN'S COFFIN. AND HE DID IT IN THE BITTER COLD WITH DIGNITY YOU SIR ARE A FILTHY WOKE PROPAGANDIST WITH LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OF THE MEN OF THE WAR OF NORTHERN AGGRESSION.

    • @Damacles9
      @Damacles9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Secesh trash deserves nothing.

  • @rockbottom8502
    @rockbottom8502 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is where Jefferson Davis lost the Civil War. Johnston probably would have held on and made Sherman keep attacking and losing far more men that Johnston would have behind the earthworks around Atlanta. If Sherman had not taken Atlanta by November, it was very possible that a disenchanted northern populace would have voted for McClellan for president instead of Lincoln, and Little Mac was ready to make peace with the Confederacy.

  • @markhale303
    @markhale303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shoupidade???? Shoupade, if you people are going to come west, at least learn the proper pronunciation of the terms. The fortifications along Johnston's River Line were designed by Francis Shoup, thus the name.

    • @charlesbenedict743
      @charlesbenedict743 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Smyrna' also mispronounced in this well- done video. Also, 'Etowah' was mispronounced in an earlier video. But in all, great work guys!