I think you're right on this. The rangefinder format has to be small to work. The 50s II has that DSLR shape that lends itself to more surport with your right hand.
Hello I have really enjoyed your Dfc videos you have answered a lot of questions for me, do the Dfc cameras have the digital split image focus aid I have heard the regular fujifilm cameras do
i also had trouble holding on to the camera with a range finder style camera. then, i followed the hold the lens with the left and click with the right technique
I switched from full frame Nikon D850 which is a great camera. It's probably one of the best cameras ever made and I switched to the GFX 50S II and it's the best career move I've ever made. My images are not better because of the camera but what I can do with this camera fire exceeds what I could do with the Nikon. I'm an artist with the camera. I'm technically not the greatest photographer in the world half of the terminology in photography I don't even understand and don't even attempt to try and understand. I just go out and shoot with feel and passion..... and now my photography career is just booming. I now have the GFX 100s ii ..kept the 50s II .... what has medium format done for me? Well it's got me to slow down and that's a benefit because you have to slow down. You have to think about what you're doing instead of just spraying shots everywhere.
I shoot a 50R and I can agree that the Mitakons (and the bigger GFX glass for that matter) are *simply too big* and heavy to shoot with it. Manually focusing at f/1.4 or f/2.0, IBIS or not, is very painful. My 50R's lenses: Fuji GF 50mm🧁 (what else?), Contax 45mm f/2.8 🥞, Pentax 645 75mm f/2.8, and the 150mm f/3.5. None are faster than f/2.8, all very light weight, and therefore much more manageable. I love the 50Sii, but I'd just go to a 100S at that point in the same body and pick up the faster autofocus and added resolution. The 50R is going about 1/2 the 100S price, at least here in the states. 50 MP Fuji medium formats are yesterday's technology, but for hobbyists, 50 megapixel is more than sufficient. I don't have any real claim to 100MP... just total overkill.
I've been debating going for a Full Frame (R6m2 or R5) or a GFX as a second camera to my xpro 3. I think the ergonomics of the rangefinder-style cameras from the x mount really never come into question because of how small the lenses are, but when I throw a larger lens on my xpro 3 I can definitely feel the awkwardness. I think buying a grip helps but it also adds weight so it's a win/lose. After watching a ton of reviews, I think if I go GFX I'm leaning towards the 50s2 just because of the ergonomics. Like you, I loved the rangefinder styling, but I just don't think its practical in a camera bigger than my xpro. Nice review!
Thank you, the 50s II is great but clunky when it comes to AF. I recommend you hire one and try it before you buy. The colours are sensational, I am absolutely loving it with my Mitakon 65mm f1.4, a lens I highly recommend.
@@sethiphotography Yeah I've heard the AF is clunky, but I would probably be using Manual lenses (obv the Mitakon) and some 645 lenses. It would likely be to replace shooting film with the price of film + dev these days!
HOW much did it set you back for the 50R and the GF50mm lens? Just a reference, since I am contemplating of purchasing the same, due to limited funds, lol. Thank you!
I have owned and used Fuji S5 Pro APS-C digital SLRs. I have owned and used Fuji X-Pro2 and X-Pro1 APS-C digital mirrorless. I have owned and used Fuji 6x7cm and 6x9cm medium format film rangefinder cameras. When the GFX 50S made its debut, I was able to handle it. It was so different ergonomically to what I was used to shooting that I decided against buying it because I thought it would be too painful adjusting to a new camera. However, I am once again considering the purchase of a Fuji GFX medium format digital. Your video has been very helpful.
After using the GFX 50 SII for about 2 months now I really can't understand why so many people seem to struggle with the Mitakon 65mm it's heavy yes, but pulling focus on this thing is not that hard to me. Idk I use a lot of vintage glass and manual focus lenses for portrait and the Mitakon is probably one of my favorite lenses to use. I still need to try the Fuji first party lenses but they are not cheap 😅
Nice detailed video. Regarding the canon color science. I was enjoying it till I moved to canon R6. Loved the features but the colors? What? Where are the colors? I agree you can post process and the raw files are flexible! But having rubbish base colors didn’t make sense with me. I moved back in to canon 5D classic. Loving it since then. I have a Fuji xt5 as well. I am thinking of buying a used 50s ii. And adapting ef lenses to it. Any thoughts on this? I love Fuji xt5, want to replace full frame with a gfx.
hey, glad you enjoyed the video. check out my other video on adapting ef lenses to the GFX system, you might find it useful. th-cam.com/video/Or0RvUR8BKU/w-d-xo.html
@@bangerasiddharth to be honest, the difference in price for both on the second hand market isn't too far apart so I would recommend stretching to the 100S if your budget allows it. The main difference is high iso performance. the 50Sii uses the same sensor as the 50s and the 50r. its a great sensor but its pretty old tech now and the dynamic range is only marginally better than full frame sensors and more importantly the iso performance is not great. I found that anything after 4000 iso produced very grainy images. the 100S is an excellent sensor and will produce files with much better dynamic range and high iso performance is much better. Also, the 100S has phase detect AF as opposed to contrast detect AF on the 50Sii. good luck with your purchase.
The ibis on the 50s2 is fantastic, this is very helpful when using the Mitakon, use your punch to zoom with the Mitakon or you will rarely hit focus, wide open the focus is razor thin, you can miss focus by just breathing 😂
With my X-E4 I use to use a handgrip when using the 70-300mm zoon. Thanks for your video, I'm going to go to with 50S ii, or maybe the 50S. I'm not sure IBIS is worth £600... Really appreciate that you take the time to explain your journey. Oh yes... 3 way tilt is so important. A must have for a camera at that price.
Hey, yea the 50sii has the older sensor so doesn’t perform as well as the 100mpx sensor. The 100s is cheaper to buy now and is a worthy upgrade if your ever in the market for one.
@@sethiphotography I really only just got the 50Sii, so I'll wait a while and maybe pick up the 100Sii in a couple of years if MF still interests me. I have a lot to try and test with the 50Sii in the meantime, and thanks for posting useful and helpful videos.
You could’ve just bought the small rig grip for the 50r. It’s discontinued so the price will on go up. I opted for 50s with a vertical grip since I shoot mostly portrait orientation.
Hey, thank you for your comments, yes it’s definitely an investment. The thing is, for an extra £300, I upgraded to a camera with a new high res 100mpx sensor and with better AF. I would love to have the 50r also as a walk around camera. I just can’t justify keeping them both.
@@MorningNapalm yup, I sure did, it was a difference of a couple of hundred pounds. No brainer really, I’m glad I did, the lore light performance of the 100mpx sensor is so much better than the 50sii
Be careful with the 80 1.7 wide open with full body shots where the person is like half the height of the frame or the person is a third of the frame. It is very soft at those distances. I thought I was missing focus but none of the ground would be in focus either. Up close it is very sharp but it can be soft for environmental portraits. At least my copy was. Not sure if the 55 is better in that regard or not. I sold my 100s before it came out.
This might be the horrible eye autofocus. It seems to always focus on the eyelashes which turns into a big miss on the 80mm at f/1.7 with close subjects. The GFX autofocus is pretty bad.
if you think the medium format look is shallow depth of field (and that is clearly what you think, as the GF 50 lens is not giving you that "look")....why not stay with full frame and buy a 1.2 or a 0.95 lens... it gives the same sort of depth of field
Hey, thanks for your comment, the medium format look isn't all about shallow depth of field. It's also about the angle of view. The 50mm lens on a full frame sensor has a tighter angle than on medium format. So the look achieved on medium can only be dont if you have a 40mm f1.1 on full frame. Voigtlander have released a manual focus 40mm f1.2 but its not an AF lens, lets not also forget about the Fujifilm colour science which isn't really possible to get on any other system without a massive amount of post production :)
@sethiphotography unfortunately Fuji has removed the charger from the packaging, and that's really disappointing. Plugging in the camera via USBC port can be devastating if a surge happens.
This answers a lot of questions, thank you for your open and honest thoughts.
Thank you, I'm glad it was informative for you.
Thanks for this wonderful expose! Of the 9 GF lenses I own, the 80mm f/1.7 is one of my top 3.
I’m glad you enjoyed the video :)
A very good and informative video. You have got a great way of continuous speaking!!
Thank you, I appreciate your comments. I have been a teacher for 20 years so I suppose I’ve had plenty of time to practice :)
I think you're right on this. The rangefinder format has to be small to work. The 50s II has that DSLR shape that lends itself to more surport with your right hand.
Glad you found the video informative
Hello I have really enjoyed your Dfc videos you have answered a lot of questions for me, do the Dfc cameras have the digital split image focus aid I have heard the regular fujifilm cameras do
Hey, thanks but I’m not sure what you mean when you say dfc video
@ gfx sorry autocorrect got me
@@illegalmindset4122 Ah I see, yes GFX bodies do have digital split image focus in both colour and monochrome
Very insightful. Thank you!
Thank you.
i also had trouble holding on to the camera with a range finder style camera. then, i followed the hold the lens with the left and click with the right technique
yes, this is the best technique, may an extra grip would also help.
I switched from full frame Nikon D850 which is a great camera. It's probably one of the best cameras ever made and I switched to the GFX 50S II and it's the best career move I've ever made. My images are not better because of the camera but what I can do with this camera fire exceeds what I could do with the Nikon. I'm an artist with the camera. I'm technically not the greatest photographer in the world half of the terminology in photography I don't even understand and don't even attempt to try and understand. I just go out and shoot with feel and passion..... and now my photography career is just booming. I now have the GFX 100s ii ..kept the 50s II .... what has medium format done for me? Well it's got me to slow down and that's a benefit because you have to slow down. You have to think about what you're doing instead of just spraying shots everywhere.
Completely agree. It’s an artistic tool. Welcome on board to the Gfx club
I shoot a 50R and I can agree that the Mitakons (and the bigger GFX glass for that matter) are *simply too big* and heavy to shoot with it. Manually focusing at f/1.4 or f/2.0, IBIS or not, is very painful.
My 50R's lenses: Fuji GF 50mm🧁 (what else?), Contax 45mm f/2.8 🥞, Pentax 645 75mm f/2.8, and the 150mm f/3.5. None are faster than f/2.8, all very light weight, and therefore much more manageable.
I love the 50Sii, but I'd just go to a 100S at that point in the same body and pick up the faster autofocus and added resolution. The 50R is going about 1/2 the 100S price, at least here in the states. 50 MP Fuji medium formats are yesterday's technology, but for hobbyists, 50 megapixel is more than sufficient. I don't have any real claim to 100MP... just total overkill.
Completely agree. The 50r is still an amazing camera and the 100s is more than enough for manual focus shooters.
I've been debating going for a Full Frame (R6m2 or R5) or a GFX as a second camera to my xpro 3. I think the ergonomics of the rangefinder-style cameras from the x mount really never come into question because of how small the lenses are, but when I throw a larger lens on my xpro 3 I can definitely feel the awkwardness. I think buying a grip helps but it also adds weight so it's a win/lose.
After watching a ton of reviews, I think if I go GFX I'm leaning towards the 50s2 just because of the ergonomics. Like you, I loved the rangefinder styling, but I just don't think its practical in a camera bigger than my xpro. Nice review!
Have the same setup. The Pro3 and the 50sii. Go for it! You will not regret it. 😊
Thank you, the 50s II is great but clunky when it comes to AF. I recommend you hire one and try it before you buy. The colours are sensational, I am absolutely loving it with my Mitakon 65mm f1.4, a lens I highly recommend.
@@sethiphotography Yeah I've heard the AF is clunky, but I would probably be using Manual lenses (obv the Mitakon) and some 645 lenses. It would likely be to replace shooting film with the price of film + dev these days!
I have got an X-Pro 2 and an X-T4. Thinking about the 50R with a wooden finger rest. This would be the perfect trinity of fuji cameras imo:)
Damn the shutter sound you made for the 50R was on point! Ahahahha! made me really laugh!
lol.. honestly, it sounded cool and reminded me of my mums camera when I was a kid. It's great for walk around street photography as it's slow paced.
HOW much did it set you back for the 50R and the GF50mm lens? Just a reference, since I am contemplating of purchasing the same, due to limited funds, lol. Thank you!
Hey, I think I paid around £2700 but they were both in mint condition and hardly been used. A great combo.
I have owned and used Fuji S5 Pro APS-C digital SLRs.
I have owned and used Fuji X-Pro2 and X-Pro1 APS-C digital mirrorless.
I have owned and used Fuji 6x7cm and 6x9cm medium format film rangefinder cameras.
When the GFX 50S made its debut, I was able to handle it. It was so different ergonomically to what I was used to shooting that I decided against buying it because I thought it would be too painful adjusting to a new camera.
However, I am once again considering the purchase of a Fuji GFX medium format digital. Your video has been very helpful.
Thank you, I'm glad I have been able to help you. Good luck with your purchase. Would love to know what you buy ;)
After using the GFX 50 SII for about 2 months now I really can't understand why so many people seem to struggle with the Mitakon 65mm it's heavy yes, but pulling focus on this thing is not that hard to me. Idk I use a lot of vintage glass and manual focus lenses for portrait and the Mitakon is probably one of my favorite lenses to use. I still need to try the Fuji first party lenses but they are not cheap 😅
the mistaken 65 is a great lens and works perfectly on the 50sii body but is not very comfortable to use on the 50r body.
Nice detailed video. Regarding the canon color science. I was enjoying it till I moved to canon R6. Loved the features but the colors? What? Where are the colors? I agree you can post process and the raw files are flexible! But having rubbish base colors didn’t make sense with me. I moved back in to canon 5D classic. Loving it since then. I have a Fuji xt5 as well.
I am thinking of buying a used 50s ii. And adapting ef lenses to it. Any thoughts on this? I love Fuji xt5, want to replace full frame with a gfx.
hey, glad you enjoyed the video. check out my other video on adapting ef lenses to the GFX system, you might find it useful. th-cam.com/video/Or0RvUR8BKU/w-d-xo.html
@@sethiphotography yeah saw all of your videos. Quite helpful. Any suggestions on 100S vs 50s ii?
@@bangerasiddharth to be honest, the difference in price for both on the second hand market isn't too far apart so I would recommend stretching to the 100S if your budget allows it. The main difference is high iso performance. the 50Sii uses the same sensor as the 50s and the 50r. its a great sensor but its pretty old tech now and the dynamic range is only marginally better than full frame sensors and more importantly the iso performance is not great. I found that anything after 4000 iso produced very grainy images. the 100S is an excellent sensor and will produce files with much better dynamic range and high iso performance is much better. Also, the 100S has phase detect AF as opposed to contrast detect AF on the 50Sii. good luck with your purchase.
@@sethiphotography thanks for your advice! Much appreciated
The ibis on the 50s2 is fantastic, this is very helpful when using the Mitakon, use your punch to zoom with the Mitakon or you will rarely hit focus, wide open the focus is razor thin, you can miss focus by just breathing 😂
With my X-E4 I use to use a handgrip when using the 70-300mm zoon. Thanks for your video, I'm going to go to with 50S ii, or maybe the 50S. I'm not sure IBIS is worth £600... Really appreciate that you take the time to explain your journey.
Oh yes... 3 way tilt is so important. A must have for a camera at that price.
Hey! I'm so glad you found it helpful. The 50SII is such a great option right now.
Kind of disappointed in the 50Sii, but I'm going to give it more time, and I'll wait until I've put a converted 645 lens on it.
Hey, yea the 50sii has the older sensor so doesn’t perform as well as the 100mpx sensor. The 100s is cheaper to buy now and is a worthy upgrade if your ever in the market for one.
@@sethiphotography I really only just got the 50Sii, so I'll wait a while and maybe pick up the 100Sii in a couple of years if MF still interests me. I have a lot to try and test with the 50Sii in the meantime, and thanks for posting useful and helpful videos.
Actually there is a wonderful grip for the 50R which solves the holding issue.
Link?
here you go! amzn.eu/d/j3iB50F
You could’ve just bought the small rig grip for the 50r. It’s discontinued so the price will on go up. I opted for 50s with a vertical grip since I shoot mostly portrait orientation.
Hey, thank you for your comments, yes it’s definitely an investment. The thing is, for an extra £300, I upgraded to a camera with a new high res 100mpx sensor and with better AF. I would love to have the 50r also as a walk around camera. I just can’t justify keeping them both.
@@sethiphotography are you referring to the 50S II? That is the same sensor as in the 50S and 50R, AFAIK, just with improved software.
@@MorningNapalm Hey, yes the 50S, 50Sii and the 50r have the same sensor.
@@sethiphotography So when you say 100 megapixels, did you end up buying the GFX 100S?
@@MorningNapalm yup, I sure did, it was a difference of a couple of hundred pounds. No brainer really, I’m glad I did, the lore light performance of the 100mpx sensor is so much better than the 50sii
Be careful with the 80 1.7 wide open with full body shots where the person is like half the height of the frame or the person is a third of the frame. It is very soft at those distances. I thought I was missing focus but none of the ground would be in focus either. Up close it is very sharp but it can be soft for environmental portraits. At least my copy was. Not sure if the 55 is better in that regard or not. I sold my 100s before it came out.
Thank you...yikes, I will be testing this tomorrow. I hope it was just your copy, thank you for sharing :)
@@sethiphotography I definitely hope so. Look forward to seeing what your results are.
I’ve never experienced this with the 80
@@zacharyhansen2809 maybe it was only my copy. I was getting better results out of my Sony 50mm 1.2 GM
This might be the horrible eye autofocus. It seems to always focus on the eyelashes which turns into a big miss on the 80mm at f/1.7 with close subjects. The GFX autofocus is pretty bad.
if you think the medium format look is shallow depth of field (and that is clearly what you think, as the GF 50 lens is not giving you that "look")....why not stay with full frame and buy a 1.2 or a 0.95 lens... it gives the same sort of depth of field
Hey, thanks for your comment, the medium format look isn't all about shallow depth of field. It's also about the angle of view. The 50mm lens on a full frame sensor has a tighter angle than on medium format. So the look achieved on medium can only be dont if you have a 40mm f1.1 on full frame. Voigtlander have released a manual focus 40mm f1.2 but its not an AF lens, lets not also forget about the Fujifilm colour science which isn't really possible to get on any other system without a massive amount of post production :)
One thumb up to motivate you bro ! The video is in my sens to long for a talking head.
Thank you… I think I agree, I have a habit of babbling on. Will take this on board. Thanks for the feedback.
Thank you!
Be careful with USB-C charging. A power surge could fry your motherboard and will void the warranty.
Interesting, the camera is advertised as having USB C charging.
@sethiphotography unfortunately Fuji has removed the charger from the packaging, and that's really disappointing. Plugging in the camera via USBC port can be devastating if a surge happens.