I know, right ? Never heard of SPI, and reading "SPI-ware" sounding so much like "spyware" had me for a bit. I'm actually running Gentoo and I love its philosphy so much, I don't want it to go.
@@Winnetou17 Ah ok. I considered DWM before but I like the GUI settings etc that plasma offers. How is it for you on DWM, do you get popups? How does DWM compare to KDE?
5:15 Actually, the recommendation for “Production machines” is to wait for 24.04.1 Point Release which is due mid-August. Even though the beta is being tested, there will be a lot more users testing and reporting bugs when 24.04.0 is releases which will help iron out issues not previously picked up.
I just want to add regarding vanguard that it stays on even after you close the game and riot launcher, and if you uninstall riot games launcher it stays on your pc, to disable it you got to enter to the windows command prompt, 99% of users won´t do it. Kernel anti cheats are a controversial topic, but if the anti cheat goes off after you close the game there is an argument to be made that at least is temporary. But in the case of vanguard is extremely suspicions in my opinion.
@@fairphoneuser9009 when it comes to anti-cheat systems I feel like Riot games is worst. just because riot is own by tencent wholely. and they are obligate to send data to the Chinese government. as of ea is also intrusive but at least they are not obligate to give data to any government entity
I also can’t stand TurboTax and Intuit is part of the problem for why the USA tax system has been such a mess. Almost every president regardless of party has tried to fix this system since Ronald Reagan and it continues to be the massive mess so these companies can keep charging people for something that should be completely unnecessary. I covered this in a video on TWIL at some point, don’t remember which one though 🤷♂️
I cannot find a smash button to like, but I do like your videos and watch them when they come out. Keep up the great videos and see ya on the next one.
Kernel Anticheat is just spyware. Windows needs to remove access to the kernel completely. Allowing kernel anticheat also means there are also malicous software that can just have kernel level.
@@kolz4ever1980 It's not fear mongering. Anti-cheat drivers are actively being exploited by malware. Whether or not you trust the game companies, there's no good excuse for putting backdoors into your machine.
@@kolz4ever1980 Having a known VERY weak point which is a disaster waiting to happen, is NOT a conspiracy theory! Also, LoL is actually played by millions of people, you couldn't have picked a worse target to laugh like an id**t about.
@@SussyBaka-nx4ge cool story bro. Back to the question how many important bank accounts or personal accounts have you lost playing games with these anti cheats? :)
15:53 Technically a bios/uefi rootkit is the worst type of rootkit but those are almost never seen due to it being some what system dependent and how hard it is to get on a system.
That’s a good point. Yea that’s definitely the worst kind. Thanks for commenting and reminding me, it’s been so long since I heard about one of those I forgot about them lol
I suspect that they won’t be Wayland in the first release of the series but will on one of the follow up releases. Since cinnamon updates separately from Mint releases I think it’s totally possible
Explicit sync fixing the stuttering issues on wayland? I'll believe it when i see it. It's not just problem with nvidia(while it's the most prominent there) it happens on intel igpus and amd gpus as well when different windows refresh at different rates
Vanguard itself is not dangerous, if Riot wants your data, location or anything else they don't need kernel level anti cheat to get it. The danger of Vanguard is that because it operates on kernel level it becomes a weak spot of your system for malicious parties who want to exploit it, then your system is just collateral damage
I am pretty sure this is how I said it in the show but additionally I think because it is a way to be a point of attack, that makes it itself dangerous too
key Michael...Now i'm no dev tho my theory might not be possible tho why do they just use "KVM" to make a virtual game anti-cheat kernel that does USB-passthrough for the anti-cheats as this will protect the game from the host and game code when it go's "rouge" from damaging the host as well. it will make a isolated gaming kernel that will protect the game at all cost with in its own VM?
Meanwhile, it took Mint Edge ISO to deal with that depends libc6 >=2.38, and actually get kernel 6.5. I get that feeling Ubuntu LTS never comes fast enough. The Mainline Kernel Installer just cuts everyone off. Even Debian Bookworm is above the Mint 21.3 kernel 5.x. The Edge ISO is Mint's bandaid.
Ubuntu LTS updates the kernel every 6 months. Linux Mint Edge is just implementing the updates from Canonical. As discussed last week though, Mint is implementing those updates in mainline Mint starting with next series which will eliminate the Edge iso need so that’s good
@@michael_tunnell Ya, I read that from the Mint Blog. That's good actually. I actually downgraded off of Edge because I didn't know what mintupgrade would do there. As a hinge point, Idk what libc6 versioning does, but I tried to install kernel packs from Mainline Installer, and yes, your system kernel panics on bootup, so you probably shouldn't use the tuxinvader ppa either which brings up libc6. The entire repo needs to be compatible, but someone on Ubuntu forum figured out you can not install the headers and get a higher kernel to work. That sounds bad because the SMP header is what breaks. If your system runs, it could be doing uniprocessing and excessive loading, or you get lucky until a feature set is required. It may fall back on the previous kernel if you didn't uninstall it... last known kernel attached to previous header, effectively doing nothing with the new kernel. That Mainline tool is probably only good if you are testing/unstable, only updating minor versions. It was worth trying though.
This fix is not officially deployed yet, there are a few things that need to make releases before that happens but the fact it is coming is huge news. It is possible that older GPUs will benefit from this fix yes, how much? I’m not sure on that
I miss battlefield. I now have issues with the developers refusing to delete my account. I will never touch it so long as all games online migrate to a Windows only utopia.
What's even more baffling about that kernel-level anticheat is that it still cannot detect all cheaters. I don't mean that Riot did a bad job with it, I mean that by its nature, it still cannot detect things that are outside of that computer or outside or the OS. Maybe the "mouse" is actually another computer that runs an aimbot. And I'm sure there are other more creative ways to cheat and be undetected (one of them being simply running the OS in a virtual machine, though I'm not 100% sure this can work).
Does Wayland support RDP and remote login yet? That is why I can't use it. I log in and X has to take over because Wayland doesn't support remote login
I dont use RDP so I cant say for sure but this seems to suggest it does at least with the latest GNOME Remote Desktop tool www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-RDP-Remote-Login
I'll give it a go with the new Ubuntu release. 23.10 only had screen sharing so it had to be logged in on the remote machine already before you could connect. Plus, a lot of system apps wouldn't load in screen sharing mode.
"ffmpeg supports the most obscure codec." VLC claimed the same thing, and I still cannot open / playback or convert playstation1 str video files or ps2 pss files
@@michael_tunnell no luck , they didn't respond, heck if i had the know-how i would just program a filter or codec myself, after all i can get the specifications now on the internet for the formats - i just can't code worth a crap
I am still curious as to which non-kernel level anti-cheats work as well as (or at least close to) kernel level anti-cheats. CS2 for example (maybe it is a bad example, I do not know) is absolutely terrible in regards of cheating, according to friends. I would love to have some examples with actual evidence since some friends of mine try to defend kernel level anti-cheats. I am looking forward to the upcoming episode.
Depends on how you look at it. ChromeOS is Linux based and it’s used a lot so you could argue it’s already happened by combining that with the rest. However not counting it, maybe because the marketshare of Linux is growing at a very good rate recently
Love the news for Ubuntu hope this will make programs like Blender 4.0 run smoother on my laptop. I really don't understand why cheating in a game or videogame for that matter makes anyone a "loser in life". They really don't deserve that much Hate. They just want to play with and troll the game with everyone else. Im glad there is at least one anarchy server I know of.
Cheating in a video game is a loser mentality in my opinion. The reason is because the whole concept of cheating is admitting to yourself and everyone else that you can’t win without it. If you grind to build skill in a game then you don’t need to cheat. It’s like playing a competitive game against a little kid, if they aren’t old enough to challenge you it’s kind of boring for you so you let them win because winning isn’t important to you since there is no challenge. Cheating to win at a video game is eliminating the challenge and if the player needs that to win then ultimately they are admitting their defeat before the game even starts. However, trolling on a custom server where it’s expected, this is completely different. If someone wants to make a server where everything is chaos and that’s the fun of it then it’s not cheating, it’s part of the game and therefore it’s not a loser mentality, it’s a core complement to the game. I look at this like the Olympics. If people take steroids to enhance their performance in the Olympics but that’s against the rules then it’s cheating BUT if they made a version where it’s allowed then I’d watch the crap out of Juiced Olympics lol
@@michael_tunnell I don't see cheating in an online game as a serious issue or as an admission of defeat. If they were already defeated they wouldn't even attempt to cheat. I don't play online tournaments. Never had. I find cheating fascinating though. I know you see them as losers but I don't see it that way. I look at it as a form of problem solving. One solution I liked to cheaters was what Titan fall did. They put all the cheaters on the Same SERVER. I saw a small clip of that a few years ago. I just need to find the server on TH-cam.
@@michael_tunnell The whole point of cheating is to meet the games win conditions. Games have a check list they really don't examine How you get there. I know you see it as boring again I don't share that mentality. I have occasionally watched a fair tournament but I never stuck around till the end. Unless physics is being broken and glitches happen I just switch to another video. We all can't agree on everything.
in my opinion, cheating in a competitive online game is just sad. If they want to play with cheats and everyone involved is also cheating like that game you mentioned then alright no problem. It's like people playing sports while taking PEDs, if everyone is taking them then its not cheating, if only one person is doing it and they win then that is cheating. I dont care if people mess with games or do whatever they want in general to enjoy a game but when they are interfering in a way that causes others to not enjoy the game due to their actions being unfair then yea I consider that a sad thing to do. Its really only competitive online gameplay where I consider it an issue.
You got me there with this click-bait - my lower brain function read spyware, as intended. What an idiotic choice for the name of an organization promoting software.... Gngngngn
It’s been around for over 25 years and this is the first time that I know of that anyone said it this way lol … as soon as I thought of it, I had to use it 😎😆
@@michael_tunnell Others might have overlooked it. Maybe it's not as obvious. But once the SPI is put in front of ware, there is no way of ignoring it. Together with something having a reputation as blameless as Gentoo, it's a real shocker. The first click bait I can't fault. You deserve every click you caught! :-)
It not easy job to run game on linux if layer of emulator of windows os. One reason is open src they can modified and rebuild to hack the game. Plus there are different version of linux OS. So it a lot of work to deal with the game play while run virtual machine. I bet there is +10 years of experience of running LOL game on linux to hack as well other games since they have group of people working together to build those hacks. As well hardware hacks. There are a lot guess. But there are two pc to for game and other is network monitor and hacks. (depend on the hackers they are rich people)
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the rapidly advanceing Wayland adaption is exciting news, thanks.
You got me really worried there, thought gentoo had become spyware. 😄 As a gentooer, gentoo joining SPI-ware is great news.
I know, right ? Never heard of SPI, and reading "SPI-ware" sounding so much like "spyware" had me for a bit. I'm actually running Gentoo and I love its philosphy so much, I don't want it to go.
@@Winnetou17 Yeah man. Are you looking forward to plasma 6 for gentoo?
@@viggokallman1649 Uhm ... ish ... ever so little. I'm on dwm :D
@@Winnetou17 Ah ok. I considered DWM before but I like the GUI settings etc that plasma offers. How is it for you on DWM, do you get popups? How does DWM compare to KDE?
I know my bad lol but as soon as I thought of it . . . I had to say it that way 😆
5:15 Actually, the recommendation for “Production machines” is to wait for 24.04.1 Point Release which is due mid-August. Even though the beta is being tested, there will be a lot more users testing and reporting bugs when 24.04.0 is releases which will help iron out issues not previously picked up.
SPI also stands for "Sensitive Personal Information". So, Gentoo users should not be discriminated against, for using Gentoo. 😉
Can't wait to install and setup Ubuntu 24.04 LTS.
I just want to add regarding vanguard that it stays on even after you close the game and riot launcher, and if you uninstall riot games launcher it stays on your pc, to disable it you got to enter to the windows command prompt, 99% of users won´t do it.
Kernel anti cheats are a controversial topic, but if the anti cheat goes off after you close the game there is an argument to be made that at least is temporary. But in the case of vanguard is extremely suspicions in my opinion.
Stoked about Wayland! Good stuff Michael, thanks! And that was a great outro :D
Watching this this on Ubuntu 24.04
Riot games is really one of the worst companies when it comes to anti-cheat systems, Waiting for the video!!.
Definitely not worse than EA!
@@fairphoneuser9009 when it comes to anti-cheat systems I feel like Riot games is worst. just because riot is own by tencent wholely. and they are obligate to send data to the Chinese government. as of ea is also intrusive but at least they are not obligate to give data to any government entity
I don’t trust any companies owned by china
Riot's tactic reminds me of Intuit's fiasco with TurboTax. That little shenanigan soured me permanently on the Intuit, and eventually on Windows.
I also can’t stand TurboTax and Intuit is part of the problem for why the USA tax system has been such a mess. Almost every president regardless of party has tried to fix this system since Ronald Reagan and it continues to be the massive mess so these companies can keep charging people for something that should be completely unnecessary. I covered this in a video on TWIL at some point, don’t remember which one though 🤷♂️
met you at SCaLE. Love your show.
I cannot find a smash button to like, but I do like your videos and watch them when they come out. Keep up the great videos and see ya on the next one.
Good Gnuews ☝️🤓
You got me there! I literally read _Gentoo Becoming SPYware_ . I was like What The Hell? 😂 Glad to see I was wrong.
Gentoo rocks. I love it. 😎
My master plan is working! :: evil laugh::😈😆
As soon as I thought of that for the title, I had no choice but to use it lol
@@michael_tunnell Mission complete! 😎😅
My blocker for switching to Wayland is NoMachine. I use that to remote into my Fedora KDE laptop from my Windows 10 desktop.
Kernel Anticheat is just spyware. Windows needs to remove access to the kernel completely. Allowing kernel anticheat also means there are also malicous software that can just have kernel level.
Always these fear mongering conspiracy theories yet no one is ever losing anything over playing those games and how many people play that game? 🤣
If you don't like how windows is working why do you use it?
@@kolz4ever1980 It's not fear mongering. Anti-cheat drivers are actively being exploited by malware. Whether or not you trust the game companies, there's no good excuse for putting backdoors into your machine.
@@kolz4ever1980 Having a known VERY weak point which is a disaster waiting to happen, is NOT a conspiracy theory! Also, LoL is actually played by millions of people, you couldn't have picked a worse target to laugh like an id**t about.
@@SussyBaka-nx4ge cool story bro. Back to the question how many important bank accounts or personal accounts have you lost playing games with these anti cheats? :)
Excellent explanations of each topic! Subscribed :) take care!
15:53 Technically a bios/uefi rootkit is the worst type of rootkit but those are almost never seen due to it being some what system dependent and how hard it is to get on a system.
That’s a good point. Yea that’s definitely the worst kind. Thanks for commenting and reminding me, it’s been so long since I heard about one of those I forgot about them lol
Nice rhymes Michael. I am waiting for your Linux themed rap song.
LoL well I have thought of that
Another great episode. Looks like Linux Mint wont be far behind, I am hoping mint goes to wayland with the next release.
I suspect that they won’t be Wayland in the first release of the series but will on one of the follow up releases. Since cinnamon updates separately from Mint releases I think it’s totally possible
Explicit sync fixing the stuttering issues on wayland? I'll believe it when i see it. It's not just problem with nvidia(while it's the most prominent there) it happens on intel igpus and amd gpus as well when different windows refresh at different rates
So that's what SPI-ware means, I almost think it become something along the line of "spyware" for a while.
yep and as soon as I thought of it . . . I had to say it that way 😆
Good video as Always
Vanguard itself is not dangerous, if Riot wants your data, location or anything else they don't need kernel level anti cheat to get it. The danger of Vanguard is that because it operates on kernel level it becomes a weak spot of your system for malicious parties who want to exploit it, then your system is just collateral damage
I am pretty sure this is how I said it in the show but additionally I think because it is a way to be a point of attack, that makes it itself dangerous too
I hope those gentoo changes don't affect chrome os in any way. I don't wanna go back to distro hopping or always tweaking my shit. 😮
key Michael...Now i'm no dev tho my theory might not be possible tho why do they just use "KVM" to make a virtual game anti-cheat kernel that does USB-passthrough for the anti-cheats as this will protect the game from the host and game code when it go's "rouge" from damaging the host as well. it will make a isolated gaming kernel that will protect the game at all cost with in its own VM?
Meanwhile, it took Mint Edge ISO to deal with that depends libc6 >=2.38, and actually get kernel 6.5. I get that feeling Ubuntu LTS never comes fast enough. The Mainline Kernel Installer just cuts everyone off. Even Debian Bookworm is above the Mint 21.3 kernel 5.x. The Edge ISO is Mint's bandaid.
Ubuntu LTS updates the kernel every 6 months. Linux Mint Edge is just implementing the updates from Canonical. As discussed last week though, Mint is implementing those updates in mainline Mint starting with next series which will eliminate the Edge iso need so that’s good
@@michael_tunnell Ya, I read that from the Mint Blog. That's good actually. I actually downgraded off of Edge because I didn't know what mintupgrade would do there. As a hinge point, Idk what libc6 versioning does, but I tried to install kernel packs from Mainline Installer, and yes, your system kernel panics on bootup, so you probably shouldn't use the tuxinvader ppa either which brings up libc6. The entire repo needs to be compatible, but someone on Ubuntu forum figured out you can not install the headers and get a higher kernel to work. That sounds bad because the SMP header is what breaks. If your system runs, it could be doing uniprocessing and excessive loading, or you get lucky until a feature set is required. It may fall back on the previous kernel if you didn't uninstall it... last known kernel attached to previous header, effectively doing nothing with the new kernel. That Mainline tool is probably only good if you are testing/unstable, only updating minor versions. It was worth trying though.
So does wayland now support older GPUs like the 1070Ti?
This fix is not officially deployed yet, there are a few things that need to make releases before that happens but the fact it is coming is huge news. It is possible that older GPUs will benefit from this fix yes, how much? I’m not sure on that
Yes, i am running GTX 1050 with Wayland and Plasma.
I miss battlefield. I now have issues with the developers refusing to delete my account. I will never touch it so long as all games online migrate to a Windows only utopia.
If Ubuntu's 24.04 release is in beta right now, then when will it release? End of april?
Yes
April 25th is the planned release date for Ubuntu 24.04
What's even more baffling about that kernel-level anticheat is that it still cannot detect all cheaters. I don't mean that Riot did a bad job with it, I mean that by its nature, it still cannot detect things that are outside of that computer or outside or the OS. Maybe the "mouse" is actually another computer that runs an aimbot. And I'm sure there are other more creative ways to cheat and be undetected (one of them being simply running the OS in a virtual machine, though I'm not 100% sure this can work).
Does Wayland support RDP and remote login yet? That is why I can't use it. I log in and X has to take over because Wayland doesn't support remote login
I dont use RDP so I cant say for sure but this seems to suggest it does at least with the latest GNOME Remote Desktop tool www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-RDP-Remote-Login
I'll give it a go with the new Ubuntu release. 23.10 only had screen sharing so it had to be logged in on the remote machine already before you could connect. Plus, a lot of system apps wouldn't load in screen sharing mode.
"ffmpeg supports the most obscure codec." VLC claimed the same thing, and I still cannot open / playback or convert playstation1 str video files or ps2 pss files
well I guess not the "most obscure" then. lol . . . just curious, have you asked VLC or ffmpeg for help on that?
@@michael_tunnell no luck , they didn't respond, heck if i had the know-how i would just program a filter or codec myself, after all i can get the specifications now on the internet for the formats - i just can't code worth a crap
I'm waiting for lutris to fix Wither 3 instalation... But still it doesn't happen
I don’t think you need to use Lutris for Witcher 3, I’m pretty sure it’s playable on Steam through Proton
Feels like eternity since last LTS. Probably because it is like 10 years went here in Ukraine. Not in a good way.
2:38 There is 0 performance improvement with the mmap increase. a program either exceeds the limit and crashes or it doesn't
This is just what reports said about having performance issues but good to know, thanks.
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I am still curious as to which non-kernel level anti-cheats work as well as (or at least close to) kernel level anti-cheats. CS2 for example (maybe it is a bad example, I do not know) is absolutely terrible in regards of cheating, according to friends. I would love to have some examples with actual evidence since some friends of mine try to defend kernel level anti-cheats. I am looking forward to the upcoming episode.
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Will 2025 be the year for Linux on the desktop?
Depends on how you look at it. ChromeOS is Linux based and it’s used a lot so you could argue it’s already happened by combining that with the rest. However not counting it, maybe because the marketshare of Linux is growing at a very good rate recently
im going to miss i3 and xorg :(
Sway is the replacement for i3 and when Wayland is finally ready it should be better than Xorg. In my experience, some things already are better 😎
At this point if you want to play safely games like LOL, you need a different physical box.
Anti-cheat for an OS.. how does that sound?
Love the news for Ubuntu hope this will make programs like Blender 4.0 run smoother on my laptop.
I really don't understand why cheating in a game or videogame for that matter makes anyone a "loser in life".
They really don't deserve that much Hate. They just want to play with and troll the game with everyone else.
Im glad there is at least one anarchy server I know of.
Cheating in a video game is a loser mentality in my opinion. The reason is because the whole concept of cheating is admitting to yourself and everyone else that you can’t win without it. If you grind to build skill in a game then you don’t need to cheat. It’s like playing a competitive game against a little kid, if they aren’t old enough to challenge you it’s kind of boring for you so you let them win because winning isn’t important to you since there is no challenge. Cheating to win at a video game is eliminating the challenge and if the player needs that to win then ultimately they are admitting their defeat before the game even starts.
However, trolling on a custom server where it’s expected, this is completely different. If someone wants to make a server where everything is chaos and that’s the fun of it then it’s not cheating, it’s part of the game and therefore it’s not a loser mentality, it’s a core complement to the game. I look at this like the Olympics. If people take steroids to enhance their performance in the Olympics but that’s against the rules then it’s cheating BUT if they made a version where it’s allowed then I’d watch the crap out of Juiced Olympics lol
@@michael_tunnell I don't see cheating in an online game as a serious issue or as an admission of defeat. If they were already defeated they wouldn't even attempt to cheat.
I don't play online tournaments. Never had.
I find cheating fascinating though.
I know you see them as losers but I don't see it that way. I look at it as a form of problem solving.
One solution I liked to cheaters was what Titan fall did. They put all the cheaters on the Same SERVER. I saw a small clip of that a few years ago. I just need to find the server on TH-cam.
@@michael_tunnell The whole point of cheating is to meet the games win conditions.
Games have a check list they really don't examine How you get there.
I know you see it as boring again I don't share that mentality.
I have occasionally watched a fair tournament but I never stuck around till the end.
Unless physics is being broken and glitches happen I just switch to another video.
We all can't agree on everything.
You can cheat all you want in your single player game. If you cheat online you are scum, pure and simple, and nothing can change that.
in my opinion, cheating in a competitive online game is just sad. If they want to play with cheats and everyone involved is also cheating like that game you mentioned then alright no problem. It's like people playing sports while taking PEDs, if everyone is taking them then its not cheating, if only one person is doing it and they win then that is cheating. I dont care if people mess with games or do whatever they want in general to enjoy a game but when they are interfering in a way that causes others to not enjoy the game due to their actions being unfair then yea I consider that a sad thing to do. Its really only competitive online gameplay where I consider it an issue.
Dota 2 > LoL, in every way imaginable.
You got me there with this click-bait - my lower brain function read spyware, as intended. What an idiotic choice for the name of an organization promoting software.... Gngngngn
It’s been around for over 25 years and this is the first time that I know of that anyone said it this way lol … as soon as I thought of it, I had to use it 😎😆
@@michael_tunnell Others might have overlooked it. Maybe it's not as obvious. But once the SPI is put in front of ware, there is no way of ignoring it.
Together with something having a reputation as blameless as Gentoo, it's a real shocker.
The first click bait I can't fault. You deserve every click you caught! :-)
:D thanks! Lol
dont forget now china owns LOL
It not easy job to run game on linux if layer of emulator of windows os. One reason is open src they can modified and rebuild to hack the game. Plus there are different version of linux OS. So it a lot of work to deal with the game play while run virtual machine. I bet there is +10 years of experience of running LOL game on linux to hack as well other games since they have group of people working together to build those hacks. As well hardware hacks. There are a lot guess. But there are two pc to for game and other is network monitor and hacks. (depend on the hackers they are rich people)