and mexico was having a war with france while the US was having a war with the southern states just too keep blacks as slaves thats why Cinco de Drinko is celebrated in the US Mexico could handle the french without Lincoln's help
NobleWarrior 04 Russia and China were also having a revolution, so did much of Latin America as well, so did many European colonies which were at the time resisting European encroachment, and not all the world was at war. We just call it WWI because it involved world powers that controlled like 70% of the planet, not because it was fought in different parts of the world or because it involved many countries (China and Japan didn't really fight in the same way as Mexico, for example).
During the revolution, my great great grandmother took her family up to the mountains and sat at the entrance to a cave with her rifle. She was a single mother, her husband having died. They suffered hunger and had to bear the weather. To this day, local people still know about that cave.
Fun fact: the famous song "La Cucaracha" (eng: The Cockrach) was in honour of Victoriano Huerta, he was addicted to marijuana as you can hear in the song
Here's a little bit useless trivia. The U.S. soldiers sent to try and track down Pancho Villa included Johnny Cash's father Ray Cash, according to 'Cash' the autobiography of Johnny Cash.
I'll probably remember this fact and not the tons of other important things i should remember for an actual exam, because this is just the kind of trivia that would do that to a human brain
As a Mexican, I feel great about how you presented this small chapter, who still had consequences in modern day Mexico. The revolution is a very complex thing to explain, but to the eyes of the foreigners, here is very well explained, and it's meaning to the Great War. Thank you.
Fortunately The USA bought land from Mexico twice. Very many Mexican Citezend and Mexican desendants are living and prospering in the USA even in land the Mexico never owned. They are th same as other people in the USA.
Is it just me or did the US massively overreact to their troops being captured than imidately released and given a full apology it looks to me as if you guys were itching for a fight
Holy crap we sure did. An arrest that was immediately reversed and apologized for is no god damn excuse to invade a city. Amazing how I haven't seen that in our history books before( but hey those things are always biased one way or another).
Yes, thats very true, even a Mexican president expelled all the british and americans oil companies to nationalize it. Britain and America did not retaliate because of WW2.
Alan Shore that isn't what a colony is. But why should I bother arguing with you about it, you already liked your own comment so what you say next doesn't matter
Luis Martinez well, my grand grand grand father was rich and powerful man supporting Diaz... but he deserves what he got. He had a lot of sons out of marriage, and they became revolutionaries :) bad luck for this gentlemen. Blood over money.
Eaglestrike7777 believe it or not ... not all the cartel terrorize citizens, especially the old school cartels in Mexico didn’t harm others unless they messed with their business some cartels even give back to communities and would protect their people by killing kidnappers, rapist, etc.! However things have gotten worse since the supposedly War on Drugs
Wow. When I learned about WW1 in high school and sixth form a few years ago the Zimmerman Telegram was presented as an almighty and hyper-aggressive Germany trying to drag every possible nation into the fight, infringing on a peaceful and neutral USA . Which turns out to have repeatedly occupied parts of Mexico and sent military forces in to directly and forcefully influence politics, verging on outright war, on the most minimum of pretences under Woodrow Wilson of all people, who we were taught was a very peaceful man who just wanted to make his League of Nations work and stop the wars. Crazy!
Yes, it seems our curriculum is woefully inaccurate when it comes to describing the history of the United States and its allies, victims, and benefactors.
When I learned about WWI, I never really learned about Mexico's role in it. It's interesting to learn that Mexico had their own internal struggles and had a Mexican revolution going on at the same time. In addition, I never really knew that Germany in a sense brought Mexico into WWI against the US.
Razamataz Productions It worked great. The german offensives through the protected area were stopped dead. The French just didn't finish the wall to cover the Belgian border.
Kek Man No, no you're not. Had the Maginot line been extended to the sea along the Belgian border, the Germans would have had their teeth kicked in in 1940. The reality is that the German blitzkrieg relied on not hitting any concentrated defenses like they did in 1914. In 1940, the French had superior more or less everything to the Germans. Their heavy tanks were better, their artillery was better, etc... Where they fell apart was that they were expecting a WWI style broad front offensive rather than concentrated panzer breakthroughs. A complete set of Maginot defenses would have delayed the Germans and easily allowed the French to concentrate their forces for a decisive counterattack.
It's programs like this that remind me of the old joke: "Did I miss the revolution, senor?" "Yes, but just wait. There'll be another one in a few minutes."
Pancho Villa was very well known and we even learned about him in various history classes. However, I was not aware that the Americans attempting to capture him almost led to a war between the United States and Mexico. This video also speaks of a lot of conflict between the U.S and Mexico which I think is very interesting to learn about.
Fun fact: In 1914, the Battle of Guaymas, Sonora was fought. In this battle a plane was used to bombard warships. This was the first time in history that an aircraft was used for war purposes. The name of the plane was "SONORA" and it was piloted by a French aviator who attended an event in Los Angeles.
I'm afraid your incorrect there. The first use of planes in warfare was the Italian/Turkish war in 1911. I'm not trying to put you down or be negative. Just wanted to share some knowledge :)
Anonymoose xD During WWII the US was using the Venezuelan oil to fight the germans, Venezuela also managed to keep communism away during the Cold War. Let's also not forget about the Panama Canal and how most of the resources the world uses (Gas, Oil, Gold, Wood, etc) tend to come from Latin America. The thing is that in term of politics, we rarely get involved in the affairs of the rest of the World (Although Brazil almost send soldiers to WWI), we prefer to live in our little bubble while everybody else kills each other out. In the end, after WWII, most Europeans and Japanese ended up going to America, not just the US, but also Latin America (Japanese to Brazil and Perú, other europeans went to Colombia, Mexico, Venezuela, Chile, Argentina, etc). And apparently the story is starting to repeat itself again.
Solaxe S Oh, and that's not happening in the rest of the world? at least here the corrupt governments are dying (Argentina it's starting to fix itself, Brazil may go the same way, Paraguay its peaceful, Peru is having a new President soon and Venezuela will get rid of their ungovernment this year), what about the outside? The EU is fracturing, the US is divided (and the next president won't fix the problem), the Middle East is in a literal crisis. Yes, Latin America isn't perfect or peaceful, but of the problems you're claiming the drug wars are on Mexico and the crime-related conflicts are on nations whose governments will change soon. And if by "internal" you mean Civil wars, those died a long time ago. Latin America haven't been in a Civil War since the beginnings of the 20th century.
Well, when villa still had his "Division del norte" he did pose a threat to the US since his army had modern equipment, and training. Congress even figured that if war were to break out he would pose a major treat. However his equipment was being funded by the US and it wasn't until they stopped backing him (as well as interfering in border battles) that he started to act against them. When the attack at Veracruz happened both him and Zapata agreed the revolution had to be taken care off first.
Great insight, and great video. As a Mexican born man, I am proud of my heritage, even with all of it´s flaws. My only hope is that my people can look at the past and learn from it so we won´t end up falling into the same hole our ancestors were once trying so painfully to dig themselves out of.
if they did went to war , i feel like mexico would lose but it would off take years , just remember that Mexico defeated France which was considered one of the most powerful armies during the late 1800's During that time mexico had a weak army but managed to defeat the French , which surprised many powerful nations around the world , now a days Mexico could off been a world superpower but drug wars hit mexico and small wars inside the country , just imagine if Mexico wasnt too dependant on its american neighbors and focused more money in technology and its army it would have been a match against other world superpowers . Mexico has potential but lets itself be controlled by corruption , which sort of breaks the meaning of the white color of the flag ..."purity"
"We apologize for arresting your sailors" -"Its ok, as long as you replace Mexican flag by the Us one, or its gonna be WAR!" -"Ok, but i don't get the point about the flag diplomacy, have you taken to many Tequilas?"
Yay! I love the Spanish sign-off of "Esto es la guerra moderna!" Also the pan effect over the Zimmerman Note with the highlight is super cool. This show just keeps getting better and better! :)
Villa attacked Columbus because USA violeted his neutrality pact in the Mexican civil war of 1915. One side, Carranza and Obregon, on the other hand Villa and Zapata. USA just block some ammo shipments to Villa forces in critical moments at Celaya battles and allow Obregon forces to travel USA for Villa encirclement at Agua Prieta battle in the border with Douglas, AZ.
More to it than that. As the federal forces fell back to the us border, the villista fire began to impact in Douglas. It was endangering US lives and getting worse. That was one of the contributing reasons to move one of the cambatants.
This guy is awesome, so is The chanel. Perhaps The best history Chanel in TH-cam. During most of The mexican Revolution Wilson keep constantly intervining. First capturing AND eventual y killing Flores Magon (a more radical And realistic thinker than Madero) then killing Madero, then invading Veracruz and finally tryng To capture Villa (wich they fail miserably) Wilson tried to invade MÉXICO ONE moré time to put His hands in an oil reserv but Carranza prevent him THAT if he invaded México one moré time he would personal y destroy The reserv and no one would get the benefit of The black gold. after that Wilson finally stop to intervent in The mexican war.
Was this the one of the significant and pivotal event that increased the negative relationship between Latin America and the USA for years to come? we have all heard a bout Zapata in the Hollywood westerns, but noone really understood who he was and in what historical context he was significant in the history of the Americas. This episode was one of the best I have ever watched, Now at least I know a little something about 20th century Mexico. When will you be doing more on black soldiers (US, Imperial German and commonwealth ) in WW1?
THE Mexican Revolution was a complex period. Porfirio Diaz ruled the countrie for almost 30 years, he made great buildings, infrastructure, raíl roads AND the economy was great. But only a small part OF the population got reall benefits. Madero was a good guy really honest but also really naive. He was from a rich family but had no polítical experience. Carranza came form a wealthy family And was really conservative but was aware that the countrie needed changes. Zapata wasent as rich as Carranza but had horses and a cool house, but he cared about his workers and tried to give better live condition and land distribution, that gave him the image Of hero of the people. Villa was the poorest and caziest of all, he was a gun slanger and today he Is also percieved as a peoples hero cause he stayed a close allie To Zapata as well has His friend but he also killed and stealed a lot in MÉXICO (its fair to say that opinions are divided) but i think the biggest reason FOR his veneration IS that he is the only terrorist to have attacked the USA in their own house and get away with it. Unlike the books and movies show us, once Madero was killed, the remaining leaders dident work togheter in spirit of brotherhood, they start to figth and kill each other In full sácale war untill battle of Celaya were Obregón (Carranzas best general) defeated Villa using WW1 barbwire and machingun tactics against Villa Full scale frontal charges with horses. Mexico remeined politically and socially unstable and violent till the 20s.
First Constitution with social rights in the World is 1917's Mexico's Constitution, which is still the same, although heavily amended. Even before Germany's Weimar Constitution, from 1919. Cool revolution. The Weimar Constitution is from 1919. Mexico's is from 1917.
lwes4 In the case of the Mexican and Weimar Constitutions, there are worker rights baked into them. They are very much post-marxisim rights, aimed at equality.
lwes4 Its a good one, with its bill of rights, and it was the first to create and adopt the checks and balances doctrine, created by the american founding fathers. Checks and balances are the best bit of institutional engeneering ever created, and all democratic Constitutions follows it in some way or another. But the US constitution also has some nonsensical, outdated stuff like the right to bear arms or the bonkers electoral college to elect presidents. It also has a too strict amendment rule, that effectively gives the Supreme Court final saying on constitutional matters, even against big consensual majorities. It could use a lot of improvements, following all the democratic Constitutions post WWII, like the German one (which was written by americans, I might add), Italy's, India's, Brazil's, Spain's, Canada's, Mexico's, Portugal's, France's, Argentina's, Japan's... all of them incorporated social rights. It also could use some change regarding its amendment procedure, which is almost impossible to overcome.
great video could you do one of Mexico in WWII, I know me mexico did sent a few troop to fight but I don't know much about there participation in the war
Israel Alvarez we sent some planes and soldiers to fight the Japanese because we declare to the nazis after they "destroy" (I think that the Americans did that) an oil ship.
I am Mexican American and proud of it. Mexicans are very smart, but we lack leadership. We are not united that is our downfall. I am a Mexican businessman and speak 6 languages. If there were more with this talent Mexico would be a different place. It is what it is.USA, USA, USA, and viva Mexico
It's interesting to see the involvement of Mexico in WWI. When I learned about WWI it was always about Europe and the US, but watching this video helps me understand what place Mexico took during this war. I would have never known Mexico and Germany had this kind of relationship if I did not watch this video.
What a fascinating bit of history. These kinds of episodes are perhaps the best feature of this channel. I absolutely love learning about the goings on during the Great War in places other than the Western Front. Keep up the fantastic work!
Dear Indy and your team, great job on this special episode as it was a topic that was indeed vast and probably asked about and for since your beginnings. keep up the great work!
As a Texan who has a tremendous amount of respect for the Mexican people I say bravo. You did a wonderful job. It's a shame how they are so often portrayed by certain people on the World's stage. Just imagine what Mexican society would be like if the U.S. and big oil hadn't meddled in it's affairs. We so often like to rag on countries that seem stuck in the past or in a lower standard of living forgetting that it was some of our own countries' meddling that led to some of that.
The US school system brain washes you by learning thier history and especially during the Indian war they changed it up by saying the Natives were losing but actually the US army was losing but now in California thier changing it up
This video had a lot of background information that I was not aware of. When I learned about WWI in high school I do not remember talking about Mexico being involved. It was interesting to learn they were involved when they were going through a revolutionary war in Mexico as well.
My great-grandfather fought for Pancho Villa all the way until Villa's death. He said he was even in Columbus, but that he only remebered taking cover behind a log and taking potshots every now and then.
I'm Mexican. But born in America. And I gotta say, this comment section is awesome. Americans feeling bad for Mexico. Didn't think I would see that. Thanks
This was really interesting to watch. When learning about WW1 we mostly focused on Europe and the US, I had no idea that Mexico was so involved in the war. It was also cool to see more about the Mexican revolution too.
Great summary for a less than 10 min. account, and very accurate. Just a few additional comments: 1. The Zimmerman telegram also encouraged Mexico to involve Japan in the war against the US. 2. Carranza shelved the German offer to be considered until after the war was finished, but since they lost, it was just forgotten. 3. Germany planned to get the British and American rights in Mexico as war retributions if they won. 4. Besides the well known occupation of Veracruz, during the punitive expedition in 1916, the American troops were repelled by a company of Carranza's army in Carrizales. Wilson was willing to invade Mexico, but American role in the Western front was more important. After the war he decided it would be too costly, and left it to the Republicans after his mandate to decide. They obviously refrained.
Excellent video. I already knew about most of these facts, however, its cool to see a fast summary about this time period in Mexico. Although, itd be nice if you made a video about the infamous US invation on The 4 Times Heroic City of Veracruz, April 21st 1914, where the Mexican Government left alone the city, therefore citizens, students of the Naval school, policemen, 100 patriot soldiers and even prisoners joined together to fight the US Marines. This is an occupation where 56 Medals of Honor were awarded to American participants, the most for any single action before or since then.
What caught my attention was the ypiranga incident, basically two incidents took place on that ship. One of the incidents is that that is the ship that Diaz left Mexico because he was exiled in 1911. Years passed and Huerta is now the president of Mexico and Woodrow Wilson refused to recognize Huerta as their new president.
I knew nothing about Mexico during WW1, so this is extremely interesting. I didn't know the history of their relationship with Germany and the United States, so this was very informative. Also, I wonder what effect their ulterior motives (although they considered themselves neutral) did for them in the long run, up to the 21st century.
"Altough im simpatetic to The kaiser proposal, i think that The best thing for México rigth now is neutrality " Venustiano Carranza in response to The Kaisers telegram
Painter Diego Rivera was in Europe from 1907 to 1920--mostly in Paris. The Great War went on but he painted and had affairs. He also missed the Revolution. Jose Clemente Orozco stayed in Mexico and witnessed much violence. In the 1920's they painted murals if Mexican history. Rivera showed Revolutionary heroes as brave and cheerful. Orozco's vision of the Revolution was much grimmer
When we learn about WWI in high school Mexico is often overlooked and focus is on Europe, so it’s interesting to learn what was going on at the time. I never knew. How intricate Mexico’s own revolution was, and it’s many factions. The Zimmerman telegram is always highlighted during WWI studies and yet Mexico’s revolution, civil war, and other historical events are left out. Wild how the Zimmerman telegram ultimately led to the US recognizing one of the factions.
Thanks for your special! We are used to see the revolution on our own perspective, but it fits in the international turmoil of the great War. It is too sad to see that the poor and the working class are still in a bed situation thanks to the revolutionary government (the ruling party was founded by the revolution war lords)
Hey Guys! Great fan of The Great War here! I love your channel. I still have some catching up to do, I'm only in the second year of the war. I was wandering if you will do a special on Romania and Karl Hohenzollern and Ferdinand in a month or so when Romania entered the war 100 years ago? I think Karl (or Carol the First) had an interesting position and his decision not to enter the war was cause for strife in the country at the time. According to the Queen's diaries the fact that he didn't conceive to enter the war on the side of Germany and Austro-Hungary and at the same time he couldn't enter the war against his family marked his last years. (Though the queen's death might have played a big part also). TL;DR: Will there be a special episode on Romania and its kings when the time comes?
Very interesting and informative show. There is a book titled, "The Zimmerman Telegram" by Barbara Tuchman which was published in 1985. It is, of course, the story of the Zimmerman telegram. Barbara Tuchman wrote popular history and won 2 Pulitzer Prizes for her writing. The book may be worth reading.
Thanks guys love what your doing.I have family from Mexico and I was glad to see that you made an episode about it.But I also have family in Brazil.So can you guys please do an episode on Brazil's involvement in the war?
I just love how everyone was in a fucking world war and Mexico was there having a revolution
By the way we'll build a wall and make Germany pay for it what about that
and mexico was having a war with france while the US was having a war with the southern states just too keep blacks as slaves
thats why Cinco de Drinko is celebrated in the US Mexico could handle the french without Lincoln's help
NobleWarrior 04 And so did Russia
RaiderCrusader basically the world dont tour around the USA
NobleWarrior 04 Russia and China were also having a revolution, so did much of Latin America as well, so did many European colonies which were at the time resisting European encroachment, and not all the world was at war. We just call it WWI because it involved world powers that controlled like 70% of the planet, not because it was fought in different parts of the world or because it involved many countries (China and Japan didn't really fight in the same way as Mexico, for example).
"Poor Mexico! So far from God and so near the United States!" - Mexican saying
That was said by the Gral. Diaz
Actually it was said by Nemesio Garcia:
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesio_Garc%C3%ADa_Naranjo#Otras_contribuciones
pizzapicante27 Lord Defekator The exact origin is unimportant. My point was that it has become proverbial in _Los Estados Unidos Mexicanos_ .
Great book on the Mexican-American war goes by that title. I think the author is one John S. D. Eisenhower
Ork Historian Like being invaded 4 times? Yes! we like that a lot
During the revolution, my great great grandmother took her family up to the mountains and sat at the entrance to a cave with her rifle. She was a single mother, her husband having died. They suffered hunger and had to bear the weather. To this day, local people still know about that cave.
Thanks you for the information.
Badass
Fun fact: the famous song "La Cucaracha" (eng: The Cockrach) was in honour of Victoriano Huerta, he was addicted to marijuana as you can hear in the song
It was also used as a marching song.
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It wasn’t in honour, but in mockery. Cucaracha means cockroach. They literally called him an insect
Here's a little bit useless trivia. The U.S. soldiers sent to try and track down Pancho Villa included Johnny Cash's father Ray Cash, according to 'Cash' the autobiography of Johnny Cash.
thats cool, i don't think ill retain this information but still interesting nonetheless
I'll probably remember this fact and not the tons of other important things i should remember for an actual exam, because this is just the kind of trivia that would do that to a human brain
Cool
@Kenneth Knoppik Patton got outwitted by Pam Villa men
Quien es Johnny cash ?
As a Mexican, I feel great about how you presented this small chapter, who still had consequences in modern day Mexico. The revolution is a very complex thing to explain, but to the eyes of the foreigners, here is very well explained, and it's meaning to the Great War. Thank you.
Fortunately The USA bought land from Mexico twice. Very many Mexican Citezend and Mexican desendants are living and prospering in the USA even in land the Mexico never owned. They are th same as other people in the USA.
@@jon1jjjjjj don't go there. That's disrespectful in a level you may not understand. Keep the talk civilized.
@@jon1jjjjjj Nobody was talking about USA. I don't understand your comment.
Is it just me or did the US massively overreact to their troops being captured than imidately released and given a full apology it looks to me as if you guys were itching for a fight
They were. But so were most other countries (see all the early videos on this channel)
They did. Search 21 de abril. Its the reason Veracruz is considered a heroic city.
Holy crap we sure did. An arrest that was immediately reversed and apologized for is no god damn excuse to invade a city. Amazing how I haven't seen that in our history books before( but hey those things are always biased one way or another).
They def did, most likely an excuse to take over more land from Mexico
+Evan Daire lol it was in mine but then again it was an AP U.S history book.
I will build a wall around the Carpatian front and make Hotzendorf pay for it!
Clever
+diego acosta Sounds promising
Is it?
+The Great War remember is asked for this and India:-)
!! make Europe great again !!
The Mexican Revolution also was quite friendly to the new USSR and this in turn led to Marxist influence in the post-revolution years prior to WWII.
Yes, thats very true, even a Mexican president expelled all the british and americans oil companies to nationalize it. Britain and America did not retaliate because of WW2.
I don't remember if we were the first to recognize the nation but I'm quite positive we were the first to establish an embassy
true, Lazaro Cárdenas was against against the capitalist model. He was a promoter of the now dead mexican Nationalism.
México isn't in starvation dochebag
Alan Shore that isn't what a colony is. But why should I bother arguing with you about it, you already liked your own comment so what you say next doesn't matter
My great grandpa fought on the Mexican army during the Mexican revolution
Luis Martinez same my great grandfather was a close friend of Emiliano zapata
my great-grandpa had his land stolen from revolutionaries ¬¬
My neighbor's great grandfather was Diaz...
You, I like you
Luis Martinez well, my grand grand grand father was rich and powerful man supporting Diaz... but he deserves what he got. He had a lot of sons out of marriage, and they became revolutionaries :) bad luck for this gentlemen. Blood over money.
Porfirio Díaz: México, So far away from heaven, so close Of The USA.
Adolfo López Mateos: Méxicos biggest problem IS The USA.
@jonathan But the control the cartels have over Mexico is entirely the government's fault
Al Swann no it’s the corrupt government
@@alswann2702 I'm mexican and mexico is actually great... I love my house, and we dont have any problem with living here
@@alswann2702 the only problem is our corrupt government not the people
Eaglestrike7777 believe it or not ... not all the cartel terrorize citizens, especially the old school cartels in Mexico didn’t harm others unless they messed with their business some cartels even give back to communities and would protect their people by killing kidnappers, rapist, etc.! However things have gotten worse since the supposedly War on Drugs
greetings from Tampico Mexico. I love this show, Indy es un gran amigo de Mexico \°0°/
Thanks, greetings from Berlin.
Wow. When I learned about WW1 in high school and sixth form a few years ago the Zimmerman Telegram was presented as an almighty and hyper-aggressive Germany trying to drag every possible nation into the fight, infringing on a peaceful and neutral USA . Which turns out to have repeatedly occupied parts of Mexico and sent military forces in to directly and forcefully influence politics, verging on outright war, on the most minimum of pretences under Woodrow Wilson of all people, who we were taught was a very peaceful man who just wanted to make his League of Nations work and stop the wars. Crazy!
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Yep, willson is likley one if not THE worst US pressident
Yes, it seems our curriculum is woefully inaccurate when it comes to describing the history of the United States and its allies, victims, and benefactors.
When I learned about WWI, I never really learned about Mexico's role in it. It's interesting to learn that Mexico had their own internal struggles and had a Mexican revolution going on at the same time. In addition, I never really knew that Germany in a sense brought Mexico into WWI against the US.
The French should have added to the treaty of Versailles that they should build a wall and make the Germans pay for it!
They did. It was called the Maginot Line.
Spoiler: They did.
Worked pretty well, it was Belgium and the Netherlands that failed France
Razamataz Productions It worked great. The german offensives through the protected area were stopped dead. The French just didn't finish the wall to cover the Belgian border.
Kek Man No, no you're not. Had the Maginot line been extended to the sea along the Belgian border, the Germans would have had their teeth kicked in in 1940. The reality is that the German blitzkrieg relied on not hitting any concentrated defenses like they did in 1914. In 1940, the French had superior more or less everything to the Germans. Their heavy tanks were better, their artillery was better, etc... Where they fell apart was that they were expecting a WWI style broad front offensive rather than concentrated panzer breakthroughs. A complete set of Maginot defenses would have delayed the Germans and easily allowed the French to concentrate their forces for a decisive counterattack.
It's programs like this that remind me of the old joke:
"Did I miss the revolution, senor?"
"Yes, but just wait. There'll be another one in a few minutes."
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Pancho Villa was very well known and we even learned about him in various history classes. However, I was not aware that the Americans attempting to capture him almost led to a war between the United States and Mexico. This video also speaks of a lot of conflict between the U.S and Mexico which I think is very interesting to learn about.
Fun fact: In 1914, the Battle of Guaymas, Sonora was fought. In this battle a plane was used to bombard warships. This was the first time in history that an aircraft was used for war purposes. The name of the plane was "SONORA" and it was piloted by a French aviator who attended an event in Los Angeles.
I'm afraid your incorrect there. The first use of planes in warfare was the Italian/Turkish war in 1911.
I'm not trying to put you down or be negative. Just wanted to share some knowledge :)
Talvez sería la primera vez que se usó un avión en la guerra en América @@AdamMGTF
Mexico and Germany have always had the opportunities to become über buddies, but always fail due to Mexico backing out. {~°¿~°}
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+Elias Arzave Sanchez But Volkswagen still loves them, right?
+The Great War Definitely, we still use the original model here, and any of their products are welcome here.
Yall have all the old fashioned Beetles down there!
+The Great War in Puebla, Volkswagen has one of their "universities" along with one of their biggest factories so I suppose the love endures.
+Tempest and a Computer YES WE DO!!! yippy
GREAT episode! Que viva Mexico!!!
Mexico influenced Germany?
Whoda thunk it?
Nations in Latin America are very influential to the world, but never directly, we tend to influence other nations with our resources.
They also apparently used mexican semiautomatic riffles for some units.
Anonymoose xD During WWII the US was using the Venezuelan oil to fight the germans, Venezuela also managed to keep communism away during the Cold War.
Let's also not forget about the Panama Canal and how most of the resources the world uses (Gas, Oil, Gold, Wood, etc) tend to come from Latin America.
The thing is that in term of politics, we rarely get involved in the affairs of the rest of the World (Although Brazil almost send soldiers to WWI), we prefer to live in our little bubble while everybody else kills each other out.
In the end, after WWII, most Europeans and Japanese ended up going to America, not just the US, but also Latin America (Japanese to Brazil and Perú, other europeans went to Colombia, Mexico, Venezuela, Chile, Argentina, etc). And apparently the story is starting to repeat itself again.
+Altrantis The Mondragón Rifles
Solaxe S Oh, and that's not happening in the rest of the world? at least here the corrupt governments are dying (Argentina it's starting to fix itself, Brazil may go the same way, Paraguay its peaceful, Peru is having a new President soon and Venezuela will get rid of their ungovernment this year), what about the outside?
The EU is fracturing, the US is divided (and the next president won't fix the problem), the Middle East is in a literal crisis. Yes, Latin America isn't perfect or peaceful, but of the problems you're claiming the drug wars are on Mexico and the crime-related conflicts are on nations whose governments will change soon.
And if by "internal" you mean Civil wars, those died a long time ago. Latin America haven't been in a Civil War since the beginnings of the 20th century.
As mexican I approve this video, keep going guys.
Well, when villa still had his "Division del norte" he did pose a threat to the US since his army had modern equipment, and training. Congress even figured that if war were to break out he would pose a major treat. However his equipment was being funded by the US and it wasn't until they stopped backing him (as well as interfering in border battles) that he started to act against them. When the attack at Veracruz happened both him and Zapata agreed the revolution had to be taken care off first.
+German Ruiz So, he would have been able to fight a guerilla war?
+The Great War Precisely since his knowledge of the terrain is what prevented his capture during the perishing expedition.
Great insight, and great video. As a Mexican born man, I am proud of my heritage, even with all of it´s flaws. My only hope is that my people can look at the past and learn from it so we won´t end up falling into the same hole our ancestors were once trying so painfully to dig themselves out of.
I cant wait for the other episodes about Mexico
if they did went to war , i feel like mexico would lose but it would off take years , just remember that Mexico defeated France which was considered one of the most powerful armies during the late 1800's During that time mexico had a weak army but managed to defeat the French , which surprised many powerful nations around the world , now a days Mexico could off been a world superpower but drug wars hit mexico and small wars inside the country , just imagine if Mexico wasnt too dependant on its american neighbors and focused more money in technology and its army it would have been a match against other world superpowers . Mexico has potential but lets itself be controlled by corruption , which sort of breaks the meaning of the white color of the flag ..."purity"
Claystead Same with the American Revolution
L.sanchez Sanchez Mexico's flag Colors should be Gold and Green. its obviously worth dying for literally
Así es
We won one battle but France successfully invaded Mexico anyway, so what's your point?
Acaso no sabes cual es el legendario escuadron 201 mas de 30000 bajas japonesas recuerden el 13 de mayo de 1942
Great video! I'm mexican and didn't knew a lot of this things
I loved it!
"We apologize for arresting your sailors"
-"Its ok, as long as you replace Mexican flag by the Us one, or its gonna be WAR!"
-"Ok, but i don't get the point about the flag diplomacy, have you taken to many Tequilas?"
Yay! I love the Spanish sign-off of "Esto es la guerra moderna!" Also the pan effect over the Zimmerman Note with the highlight is super cool. This show just keeps getting better and better! :)
Mexico in Battlefield 1 :v
Rafael Bahena Rosales the mondragon in Bf1 is a mexican rifle....
Adam Mendoza there is also a skin called pancho villa..i want it so bad!!
It would actually be cool if in a dlc there would be a map on the Mexican Revolution
a lot of guys with moustaches, wearing sombreros, shooting each other... that would ve awesome
Roy Valenzuela Don't forget the Poncho we :v
Viva México putos!!
What a great channel! Glad I found this
Welcome to the show.
Muy bien hecho. Gracias. Great episode. Thanks for posting!
Villa attacked Columbus because USA violeted his neutrality pact in the Mexican civil war of 1915. One side, Carranza and Obregon, on the other hand Villa and Zapata. USA just block some ammo shipments to Villa forces in critical moments at Celaya battles and allow Obregon forces to travel USA for Villa encirclement at Agua Prieta battle in the border with Douglas, AZ.
EXACTLY.
And the socialist demon (Obregón) ended up winning because of it.
@@NesRuA obregon was not a socialist
Eduardo Rojas Yeah, and I’m a unicorn, compa.
More to it than that. As the federal forces fell back to the us border, the villista fire began to impact in Douglas. It was endangering US lives and getting worse.
That was one of the contributing reasons to move one of the cambatants.
¡Viva La Revolución!
We Mexicans love Germany!
Problem is unlike Americans, Brits and French; Germans never did anything to Mexicans.
FermiToll and that's a problem because...?
Too bad Germany then and now only view you guys as Pawns. Sadly
Same first name m8
About the Irish? They help us in the Mexican-American War
wasn't this in red dead redemption, just different characters?
yep
+RetroReviewer Could have sworn I saw you on a WatchMojo video the other day where you asked if an actress resembled a pornstar.
Red Dead Redemption took place a bit earlier in the Revolution around 2 years before WW1 actually happened.
Sort of, sadly the Mexicans in that game speak with a El Salvador Spanish accent so it's not a perfect recreation.
did she?
This guy is awesome, so is The chanel. Perhaps The best history Chanel in TH-cam. During most of The mexican Revolution Wilson keep constantly intervining. First capturing AND eventual y killing Flores Magon (a more radical And realistic thinker than Madero) then killing Madero, then invading Veracruz and finally tryng To capture Villa (wich they fail miserably) Wilson tried to invade MÉXICO ONE moré time to put His hands in an oil reserv but Carranza prevent him THAT if he invaded México one moré time he would personal y destroy The reserv and no one would get the benefit of The black gold. after that Wilson finally stop to intervent in The mexican war.
Glad you like the show.
And you all thought maths and physics was difficult.
Was this the one of the significant and pivotal event that increased the negative relationship between Latin America and the USA for years to come?
we have all heard a bout Zapata in the Hollywood westerns, but noone really understood who he was and in what historical context he was significant in the history of the Americas.
This episode was one of the best I have ever watched, Now at least I know a little something about 20th century Mexico.
When will you be doing more on black soldiers (US, Imperial German and commonwealth ) in WW1?
THE Mexican Revolution was a complex period. Porfirio Diaz ruled the countrie for almost 30 years, he made great buildings, infrastructure, raíl roads AND the economy was great. But only a small part OF the population got reall benefits. Madero was a good guy really honest but also really naive. He was from a rich family but had no polítical experience. Carranza came form a wealthy family And was really conservative but was aware that the countrie needed changes. Zapata wasent as rich as Carranza but had horses and a cool house, but he cared about his workers and tried to give better live condition and land distribution, that gave him the image Of hero of the people. Villa was the poorest and caziest of all, he was a gun slanger and today he Is also percieved as a peoples hero cause he stayed a close allie To Zapata as well has His friend but he also killed and stealed a lot in MÉXICO (its fair to say that opinions are divided) but i think the biggest reason FOR his veneration IS that he is the only terrorist to have attacked the USA in their own house and get away with it. Unlike the books and movies show us, once Madero was killed, the remaining leaders dident work togheter in spirit of brotherhood, they start to figth and kill each other In full sácale war untill battle of Celaya were Obregón (Carranzas best general) defeated Villa using WW1 barbwire and machingun tactics against Villa Full scale frontal charges with horses. Mexico remeined politically and socially unstable and violent till the 20s.
El Huron Great stuff thank you very much
Great episode. A big "What If" moment in history.
First Constitution with social rights in the World is 1917's Mexico's Constitution, which is still the same, although heavily amended. Even before Germany's Weimar Constitution, from 1919. Cool revolution. The Weimar Constitution is from 1919. Mexico's is from 1917.
But there is no justice in mexico
what the hell are social rights?
lwes4
In the case of the Mexican and Weimar Constitutions, there are worker rights baked into them. They are very much post-marxisim rights, aimed at equality.
Lincoln Noronha oh... yeah going to prefer the Good USA Constitution over that one.
lwes4
Its a good one, with its bill of rights, and it was the first to create and adopt the checks and balances doctrine, created by the american founding fathers. Checks and balances are the best bit of institutional engeneering ever created, and all democratic Constitutions follows it in some way or another. But the US constitution also has some nonsensical, outdated stuff like the right to bear arms or the bonkers electoral college to elect presidents. It also has a too strict amendment rule, that effectively gives the Supreme Court final saying on constitutional matters, even against big consensual majorities. It could use a lot of improvements, following all the democratic Constitutions post WWII, like the German one (which was written by americans, I might add), Italy's, India's, Brazil's, Spain's, Canada's, Mexico's, Portugal's, France's, Argentina's, Japan's... all of them incorporated social rights. It also could use some change regarding its amendment procedure, which is almost impossible to overcome.
This channel and the host are awesome. I suscribed right away.
Good job rolling your r's Indy! CARRRRRRRRANZA
It helps growing up in Texas.
nobody ever says that nonsarcastically lol
great video could you do one of Mexico in WWII, I know me mexico did sent a few troop to fight but I don't know much about there participation in the war
We are a WW1 channel.
The Great War. oops sorry, but nice video anyway 😂🌸👌
I love you guys.dont stop,even after the war ends,
or one on ww11 vets who were promised their papers if they fought for the US.end if war were taken to border and had papers torn up in front of them
Israel Alvarez we sent some planes and soldiers to fight the Japanese because we declare to the nazis after they "destroy" (I think that the Americans did that) an oil ship.
I am Mexican American and proud of it. Mexicans are very smart, but we lack leadership. We are not united that is our downfall. I am a Mexican businessman and speak 6 languages. If there were more with this talent Mexico would be a different place. It is what it is.USA, USA, USA, and viva Mexico
himmler1007, now that is sentiment I can get behind. I don't hate Mexico either in fact I think it would be cool if they were part of the states.
Neil Schweiner very true i never thought about that
Schweiner sprechen Sie Deutsch?
+Neil Schweiner yeah just like Brazil, United States, Canada, and Australia.
Outbreak Prime that is great i love the German language
It's interesting to see the involvement of Mexico in WWI. When I learned about WWI it was always about Europe and the US, but watching this video helps me understand what place Mexico took during this war. I would have never known Mexico and Germany had this kind of relationship if I did not watch this video.
The message at the end..."this is the modern war?"
yes
As a Mexican I can say you have a nice pronunciation of the names, none of them felt butchered congrats
Great channel
0:45 Mexican Stalin ???
Lol
The two was dictators, so yes. :v
No comrade. Stalin was the Soviet Porfirio Diaz.
@@Soviettiger84 you right.
Not really, he was a pure capitalist lol
Señor Indy, gracias por crear este video, esta asombroso.
What a fascinating bit of history. These kinds of episodes are perhaps the best feature of this channel. I absolutely love learning about the goings on during the Great War in places other than the Western Front. Keep up the fantastic work!
One the biggest things I love about this channel, is hearing Indy speak.
Sure, it's kinda arbitrary, but he's got a nice voice.
This channel is awesome. It seems WW1 is ignored compared to WW2, so it's really cool you make all these videos.
Thanks man!! nice educative video! gracias!
I love it. "Esto es la guerra moderna". Good work Indy and team!!! And also thanks to Santiago for the research.
Thank you Very much Indy. This material is very useful for my degree dissertation. Its about the Great War films footage send to México.
Dear Indy and your team,
great job on this special episode as it was a topic that was indeed vast and probably asked about and for since your beginnings. keep up the great work!
+Ed Garcia Definitely a challenge but also extremely interesting for us.
Now, do some historical reviews on films based off WW1. I want to hear Indy complain about the zeppelin flying too damn low in Flyboys!
As a Texan who has a tremendous amount of respect for the Mexican people I say bravo. You did a wonderful job. It's a shame how they are so often portrayed by certain people on the World's stage. Just imagine what Mexican society would be like if the U.S. and big oil hadn't meddled in it's affairs.
We so often like to rag on countries that seem stuck in the past or in a lower standard of living forgetting that it was some of our own countries' meddling that led to some of that.
Villa, the Governor of Chihuahua.
*giggles*
The dog was named after the province, not the other way round.
But does that province have the same character?
if Villa is any guide, yes
+hagamapama Chihuahua is not a province, it is a state.
right, my mistake.
Wow as a Mexican I wasn't teach this in school, so much information thank you.
Momox Estudios you did because i did too
debiste poner más atención en clase entonces
The US school system brain washes you by learning thier history and especially during the Indian war they changed it up by saying the Natives were losing but actually the US army was losing but now in California thier changing it up
You did
Damn dude. You do a fantastic job at crunching all this.
Sweet! Been waiting for this episode. Viva Villa!
This video had a lot of background information that I was not aware of. When I learned about WWI in high school I do not remember talking about Mexico being involved. It was interesting to learn they were involved when they were going through a revolutionary war in Mexico as well.
Nice job on shrinking it down
It was quite a challenge.
My great-grandfather fought for Pancho Villa all the way until Villa's death. He said he was even in Columbus, but that he only remebered taking cover behind a log and taking potshots every now and then.
+Alec B. Isakov Pancho Villa is auch a fascinating character
+The Great War bandit, general, governor, he didn't drink alcohol, there are a lot of things about the man.
I'm Mexican. But born in America. And I gotta say, this comment section is awesome. Americans feeling bad for Mexico. Didn't think I would see that. Thanks
Well done. I wrote my thesis on this topic, and the information is very accurate.
ww 1calling mexico, mexico "ahirita no joven estoy ocupado" "not now Young man i'm busy".
As a Mexican I loved this specially the last "This is modern war" in Spanish xD
mondragon rifle the best rifle in battlefiel 1
This was really interesting to watch. When learning about WW1 we mostly focused on Europe and the US, I had no idea that Mexico was so involved in the war. It was also cool to see more about the Mexican revolution too.
Dayum! Bato you just told me in less than 10 minutes what would've taken me days or months of studying, thanks.
Great summary for a less than 10 min. account, and very accurate. Just a few additional comments:
1. The Zimmerman telegram also encouraged Mexico to involve Japan in the war against the US.
2. Carranza shelved the German offer to be considered until after the war was finished, but since they lost, it was just forgotten.
3. Germany planned to get the British and American rights in Mexico as war retributions if they won.
4. Besides the well known occupation of Veracruz, during the punitive expedition in 1916, the American troops were repelled by a company of Carranza's army in Carrizales.
Wilson was willing to invade Mexico, but American role in the Western front was more important. After the war he decided it would be too costly, and left it to the Republicans after his mandate to decide. They obviously refrained.
Excellent video. I already knew about most of these facts, however, its cool to see a fast summary about this time period in Mexico.
Although, itd be nice if you made a video about the infamous US invation on The 4 Times Heroic City of Veracruz, April 21st 1914, where the Mexican Government left alone the city, therefore citizens, students of the Naval school, policemen, 100 patriot soldiers and even prisoners joined together to fight the US Marines.
This is an occupation where 56 Medals of Honor were awarded to American participants, the most for any single action before or since then.
What caught my attention was the ypiranga incident, basically two incidents took place on that ship. One of the incidents is that that is the ship that Diaz left Mexico because he was exiled in 1911. Years passed and Huerta is now the president of Mexico and Woodrow Wilson refused to recognize Huerta as their new president.
awesome video once again such informationional
Excellent details of the Zimmerman Telegram!
I knew nothing about Mexico during WW1, so this is extremely interesting. I didn't know the history of their relationship with Germany and the United States, so this was very informative. Also, I wonder what effect their ulterior motives (although they considered themselves neutral) did for them in the long run, up to the 21st century.
Well, the relationship between Mexico and the United States has been riddled with conflicting motives since the early 1800's.
I tried showing this video to a friend, but all he managed to talk about was the "Big Beautiful Wall" and "Make America Great Again" bs -.-
Oie Cy lol whatever thats supposed to mean dumbass
@@Makarislethal no real mexican would say that
@@FRONT-rc1qg What is this? A spinoff of the No True Scotsman fallacy?
Sure you did
Don't lie it is not healthy
"Altough im simpatetic to The kaiser proposal, i think that The best thing for México rigth now is neutrality "
Venustiano Carranza in response to The Kaisers telegram
Wow the information this channel provides is amazing
Painter Diego Rivera was in Europe from 1907 to 1920--mostly in Paris. The Great War went on but he painted and had affairs. He also missed the Revolution.
Jose Clemente Orozco stayed in Mexico and witnessed much violence.
In the 1920's they painted murals if Mexican history. Rivera showed Revolutionary heroes as brave and cheerful. Orozco's vision of the Revolution was much grimmer
Luxembourg's role in WW1 please
Check out our OOTT where we answer that question: th-cam.com/video/fcCTP4Kc8FA/w-d-xo.html
The Great War Thanks!
9:00 I clicked the link below and my cursor blew up into flames.
Sorry for your loss.
My Great Grandfather rode with Villa and made sure that we all knew this history.
When we learn about WWI in high school Mexico is often overlooked and focus is on Europe, so it’s interesting to learn what was going on at the time. I never knew. How intricate Mexico’s own revolution was, and it’s many factions. The Zimmerman telegram is always highlighted during WWI studies and yet Mexico’s revolution, civil war, and other historical events are left out. Wild how the Zimmerman telegram ultimately led to the US recognizing one of the factions.
Thanks a bunch for your videos man!!!!!! LOVE THEM!
Thanks for your special! We are used to see the revolution on our own perspective, but it fits in the international turmoil of the great War. It is too sad to see that the poor and the working class are still in a bed situation thanks to the revolutionary government (the ruling party was founded by the revolution war lords)
Sorry, bad not bed, damn sausage fingers
Wow! This is a great channel! Thanks for great content. Subscribe!
Welcome to the show.
Hey Guys! Great fan of The Great War here! I love your channel. I still have some catching up to do, I'm only in the second year of the war. I was wandering if you will do a special on Romania and Karl Hohenzollern and Ferdinand in a month or so when Romania entered the war 100 years ago? I think Karl (or Carol the First) had an interesting position and his decision not to enter the war was cause for strife in the country at the time. According to the Queen's diaries the fact that he didn't conceive to enter the war on the side of Germany and Austro-Hungary and at the same time he couldn't enter the war against his family marked his last years. (Though the queen's death might have played a big part also).
TL;DR: Will there be a special episode on Romania and its kings when the time comes?
+Svarthofde A Romania special hopefully in time for their declaration of War.
You guys are awesome!
Thank you Indy for show Mexico some truly educational love on the show keep up the awesome work guys LOVVVEEE THIS SHOW!!!
thank you so mucho for this video! just last week I was looking for something like this
Very interesting and informative show. There is a book titled, "The Zimmerman Telegram" by Barbara Tuchman which was published in 1985. It is, of course, the story of the Zimmerman telegram. Barbara Tuchman wrote popular history and won 2 Pulitzer Prizes for her writing. The book may be worth reading.
Dude, I will check it out. This fascinates me.
I just think what could have happened if México sided with Germany in that aspect...
Tuchman's work is fantastic. I think A Distant Mirror is one of the finest historical books written.
One thing: The "H" in Spanish doesn't represent any sound, so "Huerta" is pronounced "Uerta".
Us soilder: Hmmm is that a Mexican??
Mexican soilder: Buenos Dias F*ckboi
Thanks guys love what your doing.I have family from Mexico and I was glad to see that you made an episode about it.But I also have family in Brazil.So can you guys please do an episode on Brazil's involvement in the war?
Awesome! This answered part one of my question and I hear part 2 is still to come! Keep up the amazing work guys.
This dude looks like Alex Jones's younger brother
Kev The Average Gamer don't compare him to that lunatic
"Esto es la guerra moderna" - this is modern war
"Esto es la guerra moderna." - Indy
Thank you for those amazing videos. Would love to see a special episode about Egypt during WWI. Keep doing what you do
Greetings from México. Excelent show!