Thank you Kurt for taking the time to help others, I really was torn which unit to get they all looked so great. Now I know how each one preforms and I am definitely getting the AT Max and will let them know you sent me! Wish you had your own tv show.
@@thehooverboys Got my new max in and for 2 weeks have been watching every tutorial youtube I can find on it. I am having problems getting the chatter and VDI to tame down. I have tried it on custom mode, Iron descrim 25-35 and knocked back 2-3 bars on sensitivity yet it still shows crazy VDI #'s on almost every hit. No EMI, cellphone nearby. Cable wrapped over top and snug. GB often & Plugged in good. It will jump from 20's,30,70 sometimes even 90's on the same hole. I tried everything. Can you help with video on settings? I love my new AT and the depth jsut want to get the signals lined out better. Thanks for any help you can give. :)
Well the Max was a total failure sadly. Even 2x back to garrett repair crew (great folks BTW) Could not get it to shut up and settle down on jumpy VDI even a 6" depth. Oh well.
I’ve owned my AT Max with factory and the smaller Garrett coil for almost 2 years and I have never brought the machine outside/never used. I have watched all the instructional videos and still have no idea what to do. I can take a motor out of a car and replace it with no issues, or rebuild a computer, but for some reason this thing either confuses or scares the crap out of me on proper use. Idk blame it on my OCD!! Great video👍🏻👍🏻 Thank You!!
The max isn't letting anything past it, very impressive, and I'm sure worth every penny. Nice video Kurt...as always lol...can't wait til next Wednesday for the next video, take care bud
Great video Kurt. In your final Walmart episode I was using my AT Gold. I am bought and sold on it. I use the NEL Attack coil. Our soil is not even close to yours though. But I was impressed with the Max after this video. Great job. Keith from Kansas.
Thanks Sara. The Max is a great machine. I haven’t been able to put it down. All the the AT machines are great. Easy to learn and operate. Waterproof and a great value. Good luck
Fantastic review. Also enjoy your other vids. My MAX is on order. Cannot wait to get it. I keep hearing "August" from Garrett and the dealer, but we'll see. Currently I swing the ACE 400 and I can only imagine what's in the "next layer" of ground at some of my "hunted out" permissions. I'm excited to find out!
Thank you for making this video and test of the three machines. I have the AT Gold for my every day machine. I have been ever happy with it. I have not use the all metal mode very often. After seeing this video, I am going to start using it more. I will be buying a ATmax . Thanks for all the videos ! You are a great help and thank all the guys ! I always look forward to Wednesdays and your videos. Best of luck to you and yours and all the guys .. :-)
Best review ever! I have the whites treasure pro and after seeing this video I have faith in my machine now. Who want to but a 3 million dollar machine when we have all metals mode. Sometime up the line I will invest a Garrett at max as my second machine.
Fantastic job of comparing them Kurt thanks if nothing else you made me feel a whole lot better about buying the AT Gold instead of the Pro. This is the first time I have seen a true head to head between the Pro & Gold. I think most of us really appreciate the fact that you are not being directed by Garrett, simply giving your honest opinion, for this thank you very much. I know the Max is going to be an awesome addition to my arsenal. When and if you have time could you entertain us with a follow up to this video with one on what they do with the trash and more common targets. Thanks again GL&HH Oh ya I made it to the bank and took pictures of the little gem I told you about and hope to send to you this weekend.
Maybe try doing comparison testing in the field two different machines two people and scan all good hits with both. I think this is truly the only way to know which works best for what. Thanks again GL&HH
I've gotta say Kurt, for a person that is not supported by Garrett, that was a very informative video on their products. As a matter of fact, it's the only video I've seen that makes the live comparison between the 3 machines. Very helpful information and we'll done. #WHY #BECAUSE #ALLHOLESMATTER
Great job and you never let us down, we always learn something. No detector 4 months ago, 2nd ATP in the mail somewhere because Momma decided she wants to play too. I'm thinking Poppa well need an early Xmas present right around early October, just in time for fall. :) GL&HH!
I learned that I have probably missed alot of targets with my ATPro. I dug more good targets the first month with my new XP deus than i did in three months with a Garrett. Itz hard enough to get over good soil in my area, but to know what you just proved about the AT pro, tells me to trade my Garrett for a bttr machine. Thx Kurt, for reinforcing my suspicions.
Leon, What is it that you knew all along? That the AT Gold is excellent? or not as good as you thought? I need to know what you mean because I am about to buy an AT Gold, or should I get the Max? I intend to go for the small Gold nuggets in the Golden Triangle here in Australia. I'm not a coin or relic searcher.
That the AT Gold only 'LOOKS' like the AT Pro - In operation and recovery speed it's a much better machine. That's not saying it goes much deeper than the pro (except in all-metal) but In dirty / iron-infested home sites, it's crispness and speed kind of makes the AT Pro look like a sad cousin....Just my 2¢ worth... I'm looking forward to the Max but it'll be a year or so before I can get into one. At least all the bugs will be worked out by then ;-) - From everything I've seen the AT Max edges out the AT Gold just enough that I would wait for it if I were you...
Thanks Leon. I don't know how long before they will be available in Australia. My local Prospecting shop, a Garrett dealer, says he doesn't know when they are coming. But thanks for your reply :) I might get the GOLD if the MAX isn't here in the next few months.
Well thank you for posting this video I have been watching your videos for the past couple of days and I've been wanting to get into metal detecting and I like the Garrett line of metal detectors and I'm going to get that Garrett AT Max. Thanks for the videos keep them coming.
Great video, thanks for the info and demo. Definitely want to pick up the max before next season, hear nothing but good reviews. Good luck, really enjoy your channel..take care..
The AT Max chatter is horrible! Even after you ground balanced it still chattered over quiet ground. It seems to be just a AT Pro with higher gain. I’ll take a few less inches for the quieter AT Pro anyway.
Haha you mentioned again that the AT Gold has such a high sound, I didn't like my detector to also have to sound so high when I didn't have headphones with me so I used to tape up 80% of the speakers and it worked! The sound would be alot quiter lol. Another amazing review btw! And I'm defenetely getting the AT Max now!
I have volume control on my AT Pro...It's in the headphones, LOL!, which I almost never take off. When I'm beaching it and around people, I always wear the headphones to pretend I don't hear, "If you find a gold ring, it's mine," or "Did you find anything good, ?" for the ten thousandth time. Sometimes I will stop and chat with people who are serious in order to promote the hobby, but for times that I'm not around people, I skip the headphones and like the loudness to overcome wind noise.
Great Test with all three machine, It proves that the max is by far the Deeper machine, so now i see why the AT Gold is your back up and the Hoover has been retired, Keep those Video's Rolling
Awesome video Kurt ! Glad to hear that Bob found his way back from the mountains... Or did you have to go rescue him ? Time to hang up hoover and christen Hoover2.
Great info. thanks. I hope as as start when Garrett finally gets the Max out, they add the smaller iron coil as their introduction to the AT MAX.,dying I can't wait.
I agree with u good video and info as I own the AT max as well but still can't use it as I live in mass cold winter is almost over can't wait to break in the max
Comparing "Within" the brand.... All in all, none of the machines get put in the attic. Stability in the bad soil, ya, there was plenty of that and makes it very tough. Freshly buried targets, impressive, separation seemed good. Audio modulation (different than the Whites) for sure. Kurt you make it tough for a "Other brand user" to stay away from the Garrett AT pro series. Great video, you and the HB's, The friends you have make on the east coast have done a lot for Kellyco, Garrett's and I expect all the dealers. The time and effort you have put into the hobby is great. I'd hope with your honest evaluations your compensated, even if that wasn't the intention.
Spot on Comment! When you consider just how much Garret & all Garrett distributors, prosper from this Mans efforts!Garrett really should feel kinda stupid for Not-paying this guy. If I was one of the other Big M.D.Companies I would be knocking on his door & giving him the High end machines to own & evaluate.Lets be real These big M.D. companies R making a Killing on these high end machines.Also, the Metal Detecting thing is Booming thanks to channels like T. H.Boy'zzz & many others.
Getting "paid" by Garrett takes the "HOBBY" out of it. I'm sure there are perks for sponsoring the products but once you add a salary it becomes jaded. Just a thought :)
I agree Don and I believe Kurt is being very helpful which is much appreciated. These days with the Internet/ TH-cam the hobby has exploded. The honesty, the talent in the video's sells detectors, can't help that. I hope the hobby and promotion don't get to close together. Hard to do, Isn't it? The HB's and the "East Coast Crew" are a very fun bunch of people.
Appreciate it fellas. I would love to know how much money we've made for NEL. Those coils we out of stock everywhere a few years ago. I'm simply sharing the good word. Id much rather be digging, but I enjoy doing these videos too. HH fellas
I'm sure you tested each one fairly, but in the video I'd like to have seen you wave across each target while raising the gold until it wouldn't signal. On the video it seemed as if you raised it 2 inches and stopped at that point. I'm getting the gold because of where I live but I like the max sound better then the gold. It sounded crisper while the gold had a squeak sound. I appreciate the test and I'm sticking with the ATGold. Thanks.
The Max is on my top 3 list for a second detector. XP Deus and 3030 are the other two. Enjoyed the video and helps me lean toward the Max. It is also cheaper than the others. Nice to know the Storm coil works. Now if I can only decide, dang it! Gotta hear more reviews. Thanks again!!
All of the above. Currently use an AT Pro, so I have all the accessories that will work with the Max. I like hunting old homesites for old coins, cool relics, old jewelry etc. Water hunt as well.
The 3030 is fun for coin shooting. Heavy unit though. The Deus is King of weight. I love it in the woods and open fields. The Max just fits my style for all around Detecting. I prefer the sounds of the Max over the ctx & Deus. The Max with the 5x8 Coil feels like swinging a broom stick. All great machines
Ok damn, now I really want an AT max to replace my trusty pro. Thank you also for letting us know about the 3rd part coils. I was worried if I upgraded my machine my new coils wouldn't work! U rock kamakazi!!
Thanks for the video Kurt~ i feel reassured. Preordered a MAX and just wanna chime in as for tough terrain like Korean hills, I've used a White and Minelab but as long as Garrett keeps adding the 'AT' to their machines I'm sold.
Hey Bud! Very good video! I had been searching with the 400i 2 years, than got in the hype a Makro multi kruzer. Still can't find my way with it. So yesterday, on the fields, switched back to my old Garrett. Found like 9 coins to 3 coins to the Kruzer. Even found a silver coin! Now I am sure. I want a Garrett back!
The AT Max just seems the same detector with the internal gain cranked up to the point the machine runs unstable all the time, the AT Gold seems the best of the three.
I have just discovered your channel. You do a great job and I really enjoy your videos! Super demonstration...you sold me on the AT Max. You will really find more good "stuff " with it.
Damn man ya killing me, I just bought an AT Pro because I didn't know when the max would be out, I'm sick! I had a really good day today digging two Silver Quarters 1940 and a 1953 four clad dimes, 7 clad quarters and 9 clad pennies. I didn't use the AT Pro today, I used my White's DFX 300. Thanks I'll remember to dig all holes because I passed up everything under 60. Reason Can Slaw, Its terrible anywhere in Florida.
Agree. When I call Garrett and get transferred to talk to someone about when it will be released and I will get my order, I get the run around. This is unlike Garrett! I work in manufacturing, so they should just speak my language or put it in layman's terms for all to see. What's the harm in telling people exactly what they're doing? Tweaking the Z-Lynk system? Cool. Making PCB adjustments? Ok. Held by subtier parts suppliers? I get it. Just tell us what the H is going on. I'm prepared to hang on until SEP, but then I am going to lose my patience.
That works for me when others bail outta their orders....just puts me that much higher on the list. To me, it goes back to that old adage of do you want it fast or do you want it good? I'm glad that they pulled it back from the original release to do some more improvements. I had to wait almost 6 months for my 4Runner TRD PRO (and with that, not knowing for sure if my dealership would actually get one...you can't order one, only put in a request because it's so limited). I'm bouncing off the walls waiting for my MAX, but I know that I will actually get mine. And hey, that'll be a worth the wait.
HA HA Ha... small batches! Like one for you... one for Relic recoverist and one for Nugget! Great review! You are making it a bit easier to wait for it... Still, all joking aside, Garrett needs to get it rolling!
Kurt I know you said forget the display listen to the sounds. I have never used a machine with a all metal mode before and my question is under normal or average hunting conditions in the all metal mode does the VDI give you some idea what kind of a target you might be over. The sounds in all metal mode to me anyway sounded the same for everything just a bit louder for some of the targets. I know your motto is dig it all and it looks like in all metal that might be what a person will have to do. I have a Ace 250 and a A T Pro and plan to get a A T Max whenever Garrett releases it. Thanks for the great videos
All metal mode doesn't have a high tone. Mid tone for every target. You can run iron discrimination with the Max in all metal. You will have TDI numbers. Of course the deeper the target the less accurate the numbers will be. If it's deep and you question a signal. I dig it. HH
*Question!* So I have an old 90s Whites Classic 3, an Ace 150 and 250 as well, I’m curious, would the AT Pro be a good upgrade next? My Whites has really poor depth(although there are mods for it online), but has multiple adjustable frequencies and also ground balance. It is heavy and not waterproof. I like the Ace 250, but again, not the deepest and not waterproof. Been dreaming about the AT Pro for years already but had to take a break from this hobby due to health problems and kids etc. Saw an AT Pro used for sale, decent price, with a AT Pro Pointer (Orange) and some other goodies, a whole package. And this had me wanting to get back into it. So now the question becomes: do I upgrade to the Max (and pay NEW price), or save some $ and go for the old AT Pro? I need my next machine to be waterproof or at least resistant! Or are there any other options out there that I spoils consider? Thanks
Much better test than the last one , even tho as detectorists we all know fresh buried tests are different results than original dropped depths, but still gives a good comparison amongst the other series, the max seems like it will hang with the big boys sort of speak , they are rugged machines and light weight and reasonably priced , good job on testing each one , maybe should do a nail or pulltab at the same depths along with the coins you buried, would make for a more interesting comparison
In The Hoover Boys we trust. Another informative video, you always seem to explain everything in a sense everyone is capable of understanding! Also, which coil do you prefer to hunt with on the AT Gold? It looks like you had the 8.5x11 on for this video but I could be wrong.
Damm Kurt I really love that at max! That's my next machine! But real impressed with the gold too. Before your video I always loved the pro better than the gold. Just think the gold doesn't get the credit it needs or deserves like you said! Great info great vid bud!!! Thanks as always jw!
The Hoover Boys The stache is cool thats all. Same with Brad..he just looks cooler with the beard. Bill on the other hand....hmmmm...yeah looks better with no stache. If you wind up on an AT Max box sometime in the future remember...thats stache will sell units...lol. (just kidding of course)
I dug an Indian head cent that was about 6 inches deep in a local park here in Central Va. It rang up between 70 and a penny, but just barely. Using an At Pro
I was told by Garrett that every time you change coils or batteries on the pro that you should reset to factory settings. Hold the coil away from any metal and turn the machine on holding the power button until you hear two beeps. This is not in the owners manual but from one of the techs.
Is it me or is there not much depth difference at all between the three? I didn't see a better response on the real coin piece by the Gold or the over the Pro and not a lot better from the Max. The silver quarter I did see more of a difference but not a big difference. They both appeared to be hitting it the same. I've got both the Gold and the Pro and in my ground one is as deep as the other. I'll still get the max because of adjustable volume and I love Garrett machines. Not because of the depth difference though.Love the channel and appreciate the comparison.
you are welcome. we are only interested in metal detecting videos that are well done and informative. Sure lots of metal detecting videos are interesting, but a few like yours are well produced and includes information that metal detectorists of all levels of skill can learn from. John
I'm wondering about the coil and the frequency that they operate at when used with the intended machine. Now the AT Pro operates at 15Khz and the AT Gold at 18Khz, the AT Max at 13.6 Khz. I was told by Nel a while back that although the coils from other machines in the AT series will work however, they will only operate at the frequency of the coil. Ie: So the AT Gold would only be operating at 15Khz with the 8.5x11" dd coil right? So my question is if this was the case, does this affect the maximum detecting depth for the AT Gold? I like the new features of the AT Max but I'm not sure if it's any better than my AT Gold and the cost of the new machine. Great comparison and video as always.
I've used my NEL coils for my Pro on the Gold. Didn't have any problems but I'm sure a coil made for that specific machine will be better. I plan on buying a new coil for the Max
Very impressive... I have the AT Pro, and have the AT Max on order already. Can't wait.... But I also noticed that in some videos, your's included, the Max seems to be more "chatty" or susceptible to radio interference, and hence more chatty, whereas the AT Max can stay very quiet until the coil hits a target. Is that your impression as well after your field testing??
The Max is a much more sensitive machine then the Pro. Just about every other machine is more chatty then the Pro. The Pro is one quiet machine. A lot of the chatter comes from all the minerals. Some people run threshold which will give chatter too. There will be a learning curve going from the Pro to the gold or Max. Any machine at that matter. To answer your question. The Max is very stable when in out digging
Thanks for the comparisons! Very informative. Sounded like the Max had a lot of chatter just sitting still? Is that normal or electrical interference or what?
In your opinion what is the best all-around Garrett? If you could only pick one to use the rest of your life, which would you choose? It's the at Gold, isn't it? I love my AT Gold, I don't have much experience it's only my second detector,my first was a bounty hunter pioneer. So I don't have much to compare it to.
Great review kurt well done, problem over in the uk they are over priced, you can get them in the USA at $722; which should Translate to currency equasion of £554, but in the uk they are £785 , which is the equivalent to $1021 if you use currency exchange , in the uk the long life battery is included, but they are only £72 , big price difference
Here in Australia the AT Pro is $1099, AT Gold is $1249, and AT Max is $1399. Everything imported is overpriced in Oz. Here's all the prices we pay: www.garrettaustralia.com.au/ground-search-detectors/
Hi there, I have an AT PRO. Two questions please. 1)If iron disc is 0, what’s the benefit of audio iron on? I thought iron audio on would allow you to hear what is already discriminated (example iron disc 35). 2) Is custom with iron 0 the same like zero mode? (I know in custom you can save your settings )
I wouldn't suggest running your machine like this. This is how I had to run the machines to get them to react consistently. I usually run the Pro in zero mode. 00 iron, sensitivity 7/8. If it's very trashy I'll run the iron 21-31. HH
The Hoover Boys hi there I get that, but is there any difference between custom/zero with 0 iron disc? And also why in your video you had iron audio on when you already set iron disc 0? Thanks
Hi,i am a big first texas fan, but having dug along side an ATmax used by a pro detectorist, i was stunned how with deep it was with a 13"coil, pulling KG1/2/3 coins out at 15 inches plus with solid tones,slightly scratchy,but diggit tones all the same,ATmax needs better promotion, thanks for sharing atb hh gl keeping it Reale
My AT Pro must be working better than normal because ive found coins and other stuff at up 12-18 inches. 6 inches is easy for my detector. Can’t believe yours barely rang up.
Good, useful information. I'm about to pull the trigger and add an AT Max to my "arsenal". Well, I should say that I'm a very satisfied with my AT Pro but your demonstration helped to show a few "Pro" weaknesses. A couple of nice features on the Max that I like are the volume control ability as well as the back light. I do have a question though about the AT Max. Do you or anyone reading this, know if the AT Max built in wireless Z Lynk system is compatible with wireless "earbuds"? Does Garrett offer wireless earbuds as well as the standard wireless headphones? I'm curious due to how hot the earmuffs can be in the summer. Thanks for the information!! HH to all!
Is the max a good first machine? I'm blessed with salt and fresh water, civ war releic, and a near by gold area. I've wanted a detector for a long time. Just couldn't do it, now it's coming together. The question is which one. thankx
Great video good info I started metal detecting 4 years ago my first metal detector was the ace 250 and bought a 9/12 coil and found a lot of silver coins and 18 rings and a 14k rope chain 24inch long .well as I really love metal detecting I went and bought the ace 400 and used it just for the summer as it's a new metal detector and yes it's a good metal detector for people that are new ..anyway so holidays pass and my girlfriend that I love dearly bought me the AT max yup I can't wait to use it as I live in Massachusetts so still cold I do have a open window for Saturday as it will be 50 degrees on February so yup I think am taking the bad boy out for a run to see how it works I love the wireless earphones no wire is a plus and led light a nother plus and I bought the battery pack so 40 hours or so and I have a battery charger pack that I'll carry in my Garrett back pack that I got for free when I bought the ace 400 as I love it I also have both pinpointer the black Garrett and my newer AT pinpointer and man I love that orange carrot pinpointer but what I really love is I have both pinpointer and at max for lakes water proof and now if I am metal detecting and it rains I don't have to worry about my metal detector getting wet ..what do u think about the AT max with a upgraded coil like a 10x14 nel or the 13x14 coil on the max or should I leave it with the stock coil I use my metal detector more on parks school grounds and some time beach and lakes ? Thanks for making a good video as I don't believe in air test ground test is better I think air testing a metal detector is a waste of time but that is just me ..
The stock coil is great on the Max. Everyone should have a small 5x8 Coil for separation at those iron infested old home sites and a bigger coil for surface coverage/depth for big fields. I run the NEL Tornado Coil. The Thunder in another great option. Good luck
Id happilly sacrifice a couple of inches depth for sweet tones of the at pro over the scratchy grunts of the at max, the pro is still king!
Great explanation of how to set them up and the difference for running in hot soil. My area is extremely hot and this is a big help.
My pleasure. All the best
Thank you for the great test review with the Garrett Metal Detectors, I was very impressed with the AT Gold! 👊🏻
My pleasure. The Gold is an excellent machine.
I just gotbthe gold. I feel so.much sounds like a solid target
Thank you Kurt for taking the time to help others, I really was torn which unit to get they all looked so great. Now I know how each one preforms and I am definitely getting the AT Max and will let them know you sent me! Wish you had your own tv show.
Thank you for the kind words Lin
@@thehooverboys Got my new max in and for 2 weeks have been watching every tutorial youtube I can find on it. I am having problems getting the chatter and VDI to tame down. I have tried it on custom mode, Iron descrim 25-35 and knocked back 2-3 bars on sensitivity yet it still shows crazy VDI #'s on almost every hit. No EMI, cellphone nearby. Cable wrapped over top and snug. GB often & Plugged in good. It will jump from 20's,30,70 sometimes even 90's on the same hole. I tried everything. Can you help with video on settings? I love my new AT and the depth jsut want to get the signals lined out better. Thanks for any help you can give. :)
Well the Max was a total failure sadly. Even 2x back to garrett repair crew (great folks BTW) Could not get it to shut up and settle down on jumpy VDI even a 6" depth. Oh well.
Very impressive! The Max pretty much knocked it out the park on every target. Thanks for sharing and ATB to all of the H Boys!
I’ve owned my AT Max with factory and the smaller Garrett coil for almost 2 years and I have never brought the machine outside/never used. I have watched all the instructional videos and still have no idea what to do. I can take a motor out of a car and replace it with no issues, or rebuild a computer, but for some reason this thing either confuses or scares the crap out of me on proper use. Idk blame it on my OCD!!
Great video👍🏻👍🏻
Thank You!!
Have to use it to learn it. Turn it on. Got to zero mode. Ground balance. Swing beep dig. Best of luck
The max isn't letting anything past it, very impressive, and I'm sure worth every penny. Nice video Kurt...as always lol...can't wait til next Wednesday for the next video, take care bud
Great video Kurt. In your final Walmart episode I was using my AT Gold. I am bought and sold on it. I use the NEL Attack coil. Our soil is not even close to yours though. But I was impressed with the Max after this video. Great job. Keith from Kansas.
Appreciate Keith
Thanks Kurt! Great comparison! Looking to buy my first detector and the AT Max is sweet! Much love to all of you from Australia. 🤜🤛
Thanks Sara. The Max is a great machine. I haven’t been able to put it down. All the the AT machines are great. Easy to learn and operate. Waterproof and a great value. Good luck
The Hoover Boys Cheers Kurt! Your incite is most helpful lovely 😊
Fantastic review. Also enjoy your other vids. My MAX is on order. Cannot wait to get it. I keep hearing "August" from Garrett and the dealer, but we'll see. Currently I swing the ACE 400 and I can only imagine what's in the "next layer" of ground at some of my "hunted out" permissions. I'm excited to find out!
I hope it soon. Can't wait to see what everyone else thinks
Thank you for making this video and test of the three machines. I have the AT Gold for my every day machine. I have been ever happy with it. I have not use the all metal mode very often. After seeing this video, I am going to start using it more. I will be buying a ATmax .
Thanks for all the videos ! You are a great help and thank all the guys ! I always look forward to Wednesdays and your videos.
Best of luck to you and yours and all the guys .. :-)
Appreciate the support! All the best out there!
Absolutely awesome video, Kurt! That video sold me, the Max will be moving into the #1 slot in my livery also!
Best of luck with her!
Best review ever! I have the whites treasure pro and after seeing this video I have faith in my machine now. Who want to but a 3 million dollar machine when we have all metals mode. Sometime up the line I will invest a Garrett at max as my second machine.
Thank you for the support. Best of luck out there
Good to know about the all metal mode, did not know it is the range for deeper signals, thanks for the info, good luck and stay safe.
The less you discriminate the deeper the machine is. Typically.
Great comparison review. I'd heard upgrading from the AT Pro to the Max probably wasn't worth it. After seeing this, I believe it certainly is.
Great comparison video, Kurt. That is one nice machine. Thanks for sharing. GL&HH
Fantastic job of comparing them Kurt thanks if nothing else you made me feel a whole lot better about buying the AT Gold instead of the Pro. This is the first time I have seen a true head to head between the Pro & Gold. I think most of us really appreciate the fact that you are not being directed by Garrett, simply giving your honest opinion, for this thank you very much.
I know the Max is going to be an awesome addition to my arsenal. When and if you have time could you entertain us with a follow up to this video with one on what they do with the trash and more common targets. Thanks again GL&HH
Oh ya I made it to the bank and took pictures of the little gem I told you about and hope to send to you this weekend.
Appreciate the support Chris. We hope to do more comparisons out in the field. Hate losing valuable digging time
Maybe try doing comparison testing in the field two different machines two people and scan all good hits with both. I think this is truly the only way to know which works best for what. Thanks again GL&HH
I've gotta say Kurt, for a person that is not supported by Garrett, that was a very informative video on their products. As a matter of fact, it's the only video I've seen that makes the live comparison between the 3 machines. Very helpful information and we'll done. #WHY #BECAUSE #ALLHOLESMATTER
Appreciate it Garry. I'm humbled by the support of our followers. Which pushes me to do more
I got my AT Max 2 year's ago, love it! I use it on the beach in east coast of Florida. Lots of coin and rings.
I know you are not sponsored or work for Garrett but you sure are doing a great job making me want to buy a max.
I'm simply sharing the good word. I love this machine. Appreciate the support
Great job and you never let us down, we always learn something. No detector 4 months ago, 2nd ATP in the mail somewhere because Momma decided she wants to play too. I'm thinking Poppa well need an early Xmas present right around early October, just in time for fall. :) GL&HH!
Nice! I can't wait for fall. All the best!
Excellent side by side test. I'm not going to trade in my AT Gold for the Max but if I had a Pro it would be a no brainier.
I learned that I have probably missed alot of targets with my ATPro. I dug more good targets the first month with my new XP deus than i did in three months with a Garrett. Itz hard enough to get over good soil in my area, but to know what you just proved about the AT pro, tells me to trade my Garrett for a bttr machine. Thx Kurt, for reinforcing my suspicions.
The Pro is an excellent machine. It can't do it all though
The Hoover Boys what machine do you recommend that can do it all then?
AT Max is my choice.
Wow - fantastic video Kurt - this explains a lot (also verifies what us AT Gold guys knew all along) - Thanks Bro!
My pleasure. You know it!
Leon, What is it that you knew all along? That the AT Gold is excellent? or not as good as you thought? I need to know what you mean because I am about to buy an AT Gold, or should I get the Max? I intend to go for the small Gold nuggets in the Golden Triangle here in Australia. I'm not a coin or relic searcher.
That the AT Gold only 'LOOKS' like the AT Pro - In operation and recovery speed it's a much better machine. That's not saying it goes much deeper than the pro (except in all-metal) but In dirty / iron-infested home sites, it's crispness and speed kind of makes the AT Pro look like a sad cousin....Just my 2¢ worth... I'm looking forward to the Max but it'll be a year or so before I can get into one. At least all the bugs will be worked out by then ;-) - From everything I've seen the AT Max edges out the AT Gold just enough that I would wait for it if I were you...
Leon-Art-O's World I 100% agree. Best of luck out there
Thanks Leon. I don't know how long before they will be available in Australia. My local Prospecting shop, a Garrett dealer, says he doesn't know when they are coming.
But thanks for your reply :)
I might get the GOLD if the MAX isn't here in the next few months.
Well thank you for posting this video I have been watching your videos for the past couple of days and I've been wanting to get into metal detecting and I like the Garrett line of metal detectors and I'm going to get that Garrett AT Max. Thanks for the videos keep them coming.
Thank you for the support Anthony! Best of luck with it
Great video, thanks for the info and demo. Definitely want to pick up the max before next season, hear nothing but good reviews. Good luck, really enjoy your channel..take care..
Appreciate the support. Best of luck out there
Ok. You convinced me. The AT Max I'm buying on Monday. Great vid by the way.
Best of luck with it!
Can't wait to add this to the arsenal. Great job.
Your videos helped me make up my mind and get a Max. Thanks a bunch!
Best of luck with it
Thanks sir.
Impressive, really good machine and video, thank you Kurt 👍👍
Nice comparo bud, and congrats on cracking 16K subs!
Thanks TB! You always tell me before I find out on my own. Appreciate it. Hope all is well
The AT Max chatter is horrible! Even after you ground balanced it still chattered over quiet ground. It seems to be just a AT Pro with higher gain. I’ll take a few less inches for the quieter AT Pro anyway.
Once again, I thank you for sharing you knowledge. I'm beginning to pick it up, great times.
Thanks Mark
Haha you mentioned again that the AT Gold has such a high sound, I didn't like my detector to also have to sound so high when I didn't have headphones with me so I used to tape up 80% of the speakers and it worked! The sound would be alot quiter lol.
Another amazing review btw! And I'm defenetely getting the AT Max now!
Yeah I need to do that with the Gold. Love the volume control on the Max! HH
I have volume control on my AT Pro...It's in the headphones, LOL!, which I almost never take off. When I'm beaching it and around people, I always wear the headphones to pretend I don't hear, "If you find a gold ring, it's mine," or "Did you find anything good, ?" for the ten thousandth time. Sometimes I will stop and chat with people who are serious in order to promote the hobby, but for times that I'm not around people, I skip the headphones and like the loudness to overcome wind noise.
80% ..... donkey
Very nice job testing the detectors!!!! I am going to buy the Max, but the AT-gold is a pretty close 🏃 up!!!!
The Gold is very underrated. HH
Great Test with all three machine, It proves that the max is by far the Deeper machine, so now i see why the AT Gold is your back up and the Hoover has been retired, Keep those Video's Rolling
Awesome video Kurt ! Glad to hear that Bob found his way back from the mountains... Or did you have to go rescue him ? Time to hang up hoover and christen Hoover2.
Yes he made it back unscathed
Great info. thanks. I hope as as start when Garrett finally gets the Max out, they add the smaller iron coil as their introduction to the AT MAX.,dying I can't wait.
The 5x8 is a dream on the Max
I live in a town of 98 parks and I can't ever dig it all in my lifetime. I have to pick and choose. Thanks for the video!
Loving the depth on the Max...Thanks for sharing!
I agree with u good video and info as I own the AT max as well but still can't use it as I live in mass cold winter is almost over can't wait to break in the max
Great info, thanks! makes it easer to choose.
Outstanding video brother..nothing but the facts we need to know and hear..Thanks again
Thanks for all the information and great video!!
Very informative video. Thanks for the demonstration. :)
Comparing "Within" the brand.... All in all, none of the machines get put in the attic. Stability in the bad soil, ya, there was plenty of that and makes it very tough. Freshly buried targets, impressive, separation seemed good. Audio modulation (different than the Whites) for sure. Kurt you make it tough for a "Other brand user" to stay away from the Garrett AT pro series.
Great video, you and the HB's, The friends you have make on the east coast have done a lot for Kellyco, Garrett's and I expect all the dealers. The time and effort you have put into the hobby is great. I'd hope with your honest evaluations your compensated, even if that wasn't the intention.
Spot on Comment! When you consider just how much Garret & all Garrett distributors, prosper from this Mans efforts!Garrett really should feel kinda stupid for Not-paying this guy. If I was one of the other Big M.D.Companies I would be knocking on his door & giving him the High end machines to own & evaluate.Lets be real These big M.D. companies R making a Killing on these high end machines.Also, the Metal Detecting thing is Booming thanks to channels like T. H.Boy'zzz & many others.
Getting "paid" by Garrett takes the "HOBBY" out of it. I'm sure there are perks for sponsoring the products but once you add a salary it becomes jaded. Just a thought :)
I agree Don and I believe Kurt is being very helpful which is much appreciated. These days with the Internet/ TH-cam the hobby has exploded. The honesty, the talent in the video's sells detectors, can't help that. I hope the hobby and promotion don't get to close together. Hard to do, Isn't it? The HB's and the "East Coast Crew" are a very fun bunch of people.
Appreciate it fellas. I would love to know how much money we've made for NEL. Those coils we out of stock everywhere a few years ago. I'm simply sharing the good word. Id much rather be digging, but I enjoy doing these videos too. HH fellas
Bruce, thanks for the nice reply: Don W5DGF
I'm sure you tested each one fairly, but in the video I'd like to have seen you wave across each target while raising the gold until it wouldn't signal. On the video it seemed as if you raised it 2 inches and stopped at that point. I'm getting the gold because of where I live but I like the max sound better then the gold. It sounded crisper while the gold had a squeak sound. I appreciate the test and I'm sticking with the ATGold. Thanks.
I stopped because I lost the signal. The Gold is a great machine. Good luck with it
The Max is on my top 3 list for a second detector. XP Deus and 3030 are the other two. Enjoyed the video and helps me lean toward the Max. It is also cheaper than the others. Nice to know the Storm coil works. Now if I can only decide, dang it! Gotta hear more reviews. Thanks again!!
What do you use now? What kind of sites do you hunt most often? Relic hunter? Coin shooter? Jewelry beach guy? Interested in water hunting?
All of the above. Currently use an AT Pro, so I have all the accessories that will work with the Max. I like hunting old homesites for old coins, cool relics, old jewelry etc. Water hunt as well.
I use an AT Pro, looking at AT Max or XP Deus, mostly. I hunt all the above fresh water beaches, old homesites. Love the old coins, jewelry and relics
The 3030 is fun for coin shooting. Heavy unit though. The Deus is King of weight. I love it in the woods and open fields. The Max just fits my style for all around Detecting. I prefer the sounds of the Max over the ctx & Deus. The Max with the 5x8 Coil feels like swinging a broom stick. All great machines
Ok damn, now I really want an AT max to replace my trusty pro. Thank you also for letting us know about the 3rd part coils. I was worried if I upgraded my machine my new coils wouldn't work! U rock kamakazi!!
One of our NEL coils worked the other didn't. I just wish Garrett would make a larger DD Coil
Thanks Kurt when I have the extra money I'm definitely going to buy the Max.
Best of luck
Thanks for the video Kurt~ i feel reassured. Preordered a MAX and just wanna chime in as for tough terrain like Korean hills, I've used a White and Minelab but as long as Garrett keeps adding the 'AT' to their machines I'm sold.
I look forward to your feedback when you put it to the test
you well know your signals mate, i see jos is comming to the uk in october cant wait to see the vids
Wish I got that invite
Hey Bud! Very good video! I had been searching with the 400i 2 years, than got in the hype a Makro multi kruzer. Still can't find my way with it. So yesterday, on the fields, switched back to my old Garrett. Found like 9 coins to 3 coins to the Kruzer. Even found a silver coin! Now I am sure. I want a Garrett back!
Hard to beat a Garrett on Coins. Definitely can’t beet that beautiful High tone. HH
The AT Max just seems the same detector with the internal gain cranked up to the point the machine runs unstable all the time, the AT Gold seems the best of the three.
I have just discovered your channel. You do a great job and I really enjoy your videos! Super demonstration...you sold me on the AT Max. You will really find more good "stuff " with it.
Thanks Dwayne. Our finds have definitely gotten better. Location is the most important aspect but a great machine doesn’t hurt
Nice 1 kurt great review very interesting results I use a etrac however I do like these Garrett machines take care
Awesome video. I was trying to decide between the Gold and Max you got me convinced on the Max. Thanks
Best of luck with her. I love mine
Damn man ya killing me, I just bought an AT Pro because I didn't know when the max would be out, I'm sick! I had a really good day today digging two Silver Quarters 1940 and a 1953 four clad dimes, 7 clad quarters and 9 clad pennies. I didn't use the AT Pro today, I used my White's DFX 300. Thanks I'll remember to dig all holes because I passed up everything under 60. Reason Can Slaw, Its terrible anywhere in Florida.
The Pro is a good machine. There's other machines that do certain thing a little better. All the best out there
I will keep my Pro and pretend I didn't watch this. Dammit.
Nice comparison video. It really makes me want to upgrade from my AT Pro. Maybe Garrett or KellyCo will send you an extra one for a giveaway.
That would be really cool. They have a lot of orders to fill first I'm sure
This is not helping my patience level for the AT MAX to come in. :) Thanks for the review Kurt!
Agree. When I call Garrett and get transferred to talk to someone about when it will be released and I will get my order, I get the run around. This is unlike Garrett! I work in manufacturing, so they should just speak my language or put it in layman's terms for all to see. What's the harm in telling people exactly what they're doing? Tweaking the Z-Lynk system? Cool. Making PCB adjustments? Ok. Held by subtier parts suppliers? I get it. Just tell us what the H is going on. I'm prepared to hang on until SEP, but then I am going to lose my patience.
From what I've heard they're releasing them is small batches. Hope you get yours soon!
That works for me when others bail outta their orders....just puts me that much higher on the list. To me, it goes back to that old adage of do you want it fast or do you want it good? I'm glad that they pulled it back from the original release to do some more improvements. I had to wait almost 6 months for my 4Runner TRD PRO (and with that, not knowing for sure if my dealership would actually get one...you can't order one, only put in a request because it's so limited). I'm bouncing off the walls waiting for my MAX, but I know that I will actually get mine. And hey, that'll be a worth the wait.
HA HA Ha... small batches! Like one for you... one for Relic recoverist and one for Nugget! Great review! You are making it a bit easier to wait for it... Still, all joking aside, Garrett needs to get it rolling!
Kurt I know you said forget the display listen to the sounds. I have never used a machine with a all metal mode before and my question is under normal or average hunting conditions in the all metal mode does the VDI give you some idea what kind of a target you might be over. The sounds in all metal mode to me anyway sounded the same for everything just a bit louder for some of the targets. I know your motto is dig it all and it looks like in all metal that might be what a person will have to do. I have a Ace 250 and a A T Pro and plan to get a A T Max whenever Garrett releases it. Thanks for the great videos
All metal mode doesn't have a high tone. Mid tone for every target. You can run iron discrimination with the Max in all metal. You will have TDI numbers. Of course the deeper the target the less accurate the numbers will be. If it's deep and you question a signal. I dig it. HH
*Question!*
So I have an old 90s Whites Classic 3, an Ace 150 and 250 as well, I’m curious, would the AT Pro be a good upgrade next?
My Whites has really poor depth(although there are mods for it online), but has multiple adjustable frequencies and also ground balance. It is heavy and not waterproof. I like the Ace 250, but again, not the deepest and not waterproof.
Been dreaming about the AT Pro for years already but had to take a break from this hobby due to health problems and kids etc.
Saw an AT Pro used for sale, decent price, with a AT Pro Pointer (Orange) and some other goodies, a whole package.
And this had me wanting to get back into it.
So now the question becomes: do I upgrade to the Max (and pay NEW price), or save some $ and go for the old AT Pro?
I need my next machine to be waterproof or at least resistant!
Or are there any other options out there that I spoils consider?
Thanks
Much better test than the last one , even tho as detectorists we all know fresh buried tests are different results than original dropped depths, but still gives a good comparison amongst the other series, the max seems like it will hang with the big boys sort of speak , they are rugged machines and light weight and reasonably priced , good job on testing each one , maybe should do a nail or pulltab at the same depths along with the coins you buried, would make for a more interesting comparison
I plan on putting in a perminate Test bed with multiple targets
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In The Hoover Boys we trust. Another informative video, you always seem to explain everything in a sense everyone is capable of understanding! Also, which coil do you prefer to hunt with on the AT Gold? It looks like you had the 8.5x11 on for this video but I could be wrong.
I like the 5x8 on the gold. I used the 8.5x11 for this video to keep all aspects consistent. HH
now that you have land test with all 3 AT PRO ,How about a water test with them
yeaop
Damm Kurt I really love that at max! That's my next machine! But real impressed with the gold too. Before your video I always loved the pro better than the gold. Just think the gold doesn't get the credit it needs or deserves like you said! Great info great vid bud!!! Thanks as always jw!
I love them all. I can't wait to put in some long days with the Max and see its potential in the field
thanks for the help! i now know which new Garrett I will spend my money on. Although the gold was nice I will buy an AT Max.
Best of luck with it Diana!
Great review Kurt. Please grow your stache back.
I'm sure it will come back at some time. Why the rush?
The Hoover Boys The stache is cool thats all. Same with Brad..he just looks cooler with the beard. Bill on the other hand....hmmmm...yeah looks better with no stache. If you wind up on an AT Max box sometime in the future remember...thats stache will sell units...lol. (just kidding of course)
Hahaha! Thanks
I dug an Indian head cent that was about 6 inches deep in a local park here in Central Va. It rang up between 70 and a penny, but just barely. Using an At Pro
I was told by Garrett that every time you change coils or batteries on the pro that you should reset to factory settings. Hold the coil away from any metal and turn the machine on holding the power button until you hear two beeps. This is not in the owners manual but from one of the techs.
This is 100% true. I factory reset everytime I do anything. Even when I change sites.
Is it me or is there not much depth difference at all between the three? I didn't see a better response on the real coin piece by the Gold or the over the Pro and not a lot better from the Max. The silver quarter I did see more of a difference but not a big difference. They both appeared to be hitting it the same. I've got both the Gold and the Pro and in my ground one is as deep as the other. I'll still get the max because of adjustable volume and I love Garrett machines. Not because of the depth difference though.Love the channel and appreciate the comparison.
Appreciate the support.
Kurt u need to try out the concentric coils just for the hell of it. I bet u would be impressed
That's all I had in the 90's. I prefer a DD.
Very helpful video!! Does the at pro ever get a high tone like silver but the vdi numbers show nothing? If so would you dig those?
Whenever I "question" a signal. There's no question. Dig it. I believe my eyes over any machine
you should call out the numbers on the display because it was hard to see with the glare but otherwise a very informative video..peace
Thanks
Thanks Kurt ..... nice side by side shootout!!
Appreciate it Ross
Did you ever figure out what was wrong with the thunder coil?
Nothing. My machine is the problem. Bill just got his Max. The Thunder works perfectly. Garrett tweeted the software. All is well
A good comparison of three good Garrett Metal detectors. AT PRO MAX looking good.
Thanks!
you are welcome. we are only interested in metal detecting videos that are well done and informative. Sure lots of metal detecting videos are interesting, but a few like yours are well produced and includes information that metal detectorists of all levels of skill can learn from. John
I appreciate the kind words. It pushes we to do better. Thank you
I'm wondering about the coil and the frequency that they operate at when used with the intended machine. Now the AT Pro operates at 15Khz and the AT Gold at 18Khz, the AT Max at 13.6 Khz. I was told by Nel a while back that although the coils from other machines in the AT series will work however, they will only operate at the frequency of the coil. Ie: So the AT Gold would only be operating at 15Khz with the 8.5x11" dd coil right? So my question is if this was the case, does this affect the maximum detecting depth for the AT Gold? I like the new features of the AT Max but I'm not sure if it's any better than my AT Gold and the cost of the new machine. Great comparison and video as always.
I've used my NEL coils for my Pro on the Gold. Didn't have any problems but I'm sure a coil made for that specific machine will be better. I plan on buying a new coil for the Max
Very impressive... I have the AT Pro, and have the AT Max on order already. Can't wait.... But I also noticed that in some videos, your's included, the Max seems to be more "chatty" or susceptible to radio interference, and hence more chatty, whereas the AT Max can stay very quiet until the coil hits a target. Is that your impression as well after your field testing??
The Max is a much more sensitive machine then the Pro. Just about every other machine is more chatty then the Pro. The Pro is one quiet machine. A lot of the chatter comes from all the minerals. Some people run threshold which will give chatter too. There will be a learning curve going from the Pro to the gold or Max. Any machine at that matter. To answer your question. The Max is very stable when in out digging
Keep the videos coming!!!
Thanks for the comparisons! Very informative. Sounded like the Max had a lot of chatter just sitting still? Is that normal or electrical interference or what?
It's a sensitive machine in mineralized soil and full sensitivity.
thanks for the comparison ,i use a new tornado on my atp, i wonder how well it would do on the max
I think the Tornado will be a perfect fit. I was talking with the guys today and said I will probably buy a Tornado for it
Thanks for testing
In your opinion what is the best all-around Garrett? If you could only pick one to use the rest of your life, which would you choose? It's the at Gold, isn't it?
I love my AT Gold, I don't have much experience it's only my second detector,my first was a bounty hunter pioneer. So I don't have much to compare it to.
Great review kurt well done, problem over in the uk they are over priced, you can get them in the USA at $722; which should Translate to currency equasion of £554, but in the uk they are £785 , which is the equivalent to $1021 if you use currency exchange , in the uk the long life battery is included, but they are only £72 , big price difference
Wow. That's nuts
Here in Australia the AT Pro is $1099, AT Gold is $1249, and AT Max is $1399. Everything imported is overpriced in Oz. Here's all the prices we pay: www.garrettaustralia.com.au/ground-search-detectors/
Which one of the three is best for the beach say like myrtle beach or even gulf of Mexico Pensacola beach ? Thanks in advance
Absolutely answered all my questions and then some. Doe the Max wireless capabilities detract from battery life?
Slightly. Still get a few hunts no problem
Hi there, I have an AT PRO. Two questions please.
1)If iron disc is 0, what’s the benefit of audio iron on? I thought iron audio on would allow you to hear what is already discriminated (example iron disc 35).
2) Is custom with iron 0 the same like zero mode? (I know in custom you can save your settings )
I wouldn't suggest running your machine like this. This is how I had to run the machines to get them to react consistently. I usually run the Pro in zero mode. 00 iron, sensitivity 7/8. If it's very trashy I'll run the iron 21-31. HH
The Hoover Boys hi there I get that, but is there any difference between custom/zero with 0 iron disc? And also why in your video you had iron audio on when you already set iron disc 0? Thanks
No. Custom just saves your program. I explained the second question in the beginning of the video
Hi,i am a big first texas fan, but having dug along side an ATmax used by a pro detectorist, i was stunned how with deep it was with a 13"coil, pulling KG1/2/3 coins out at 15 inches plus with solid tones,slightly scratchy,but diggit tones all the same,ATmax needs better promotion, thanks for sharing atb hh gl keeping it Reale
Nothing wrong with first Texas. I’ve seen the Fisher F75 get crazy deep. The Max is one hell of a machine. Fits my needs perfectly. All the best
My AT Pro must be working better than normal because ive found coins and other stuff at up 12-18 inches. 6 inches is easy for my detector. Can’t believe yours barely rang up.
I've done the same with the Pro. This is bad soil. Makes a huge difference
I’m thinking about getting a AT Max I use a ace 250 is the learning curve going to be too much
when i bought my nel thunder coil they had 1 for the at pro and 1 for the gold and said they weren't compatible
Of course they would say that. The only way to know is to try
Good, useful information. I'm about to pull the trigger and add an AT Max to my "arsenal". Well, I should say that I'm a very satisfied with my AT Pro but your demonstration helped to show a few "Pro" weaknesses. A couple of nice features on the Max that I like are the volume control ability as well as the back light. I do have a question though about the AT Max. Do you or anyone reading this, know if the AT Max built in wireless Z Lynk system is compatible with wireless "earbuds"? Does Garrett offer wireless earbuds as well as the standard wireless headphones? I'm curious due to how hot the earmuffs can be in the summer. Thanks for the information!! HH to all!
I haven’t heard anything about wireless ear buds. We’ve suggested smaller lighter phones for hot weather
Is the max a good first machine? I'm blessed with salt and fresh water, civ war releic, and a near by gold area.
I've wanted a detector for a long time. Just couldn't do it, now it's coming together. The question is which one.
thankx
It’s an excellent machine. Can get chatty in salty water.
Great video guys. Thank You.
Thank you for the support!
Nice information, which model do you recommended?
Great video...thanks for sharing
So if you have a nice tone with no numbers you’d still dig?
Great test Kurt! Ya got me sold..
Has anyone tryed to put a large coil on an ace 400 . or are thay not compatible?
Yes they make them for the Ace
Great video good info I started metal detecting 4 years ago my first metal detector was the ace 250 and bought a 9/12 coil and found a lot of silver coins and 18 rings and a 14k rope chain 24inch long .well as I really love metal detecting I went and bought the ace 400 and used it just for the summer as it's a new metal detector and yes it's a good metal detector for people that are new ..anyway so holidays pass and my girlfriend that I love dearly bought me the AT max yup I can't wait to use it as I live in Massachusetts so still cold I do have a open window for Saturday as it will be 50 degrees on February so yup I think am taking the bad boy out for a run to see how it works I love the wireless earphones no wire is a plus and led light a nother plus and I bought the battery pack so 40 hours or so and I have a battery charger pack that I'll carry in my Garrett back pack that I got for free when I bought the ace 400 as I love it I also have both pinpointer the black Garrett and my newer AT pinpointer and man I love that orange carrot pinpointer but what I really love is I have both pinpointer and at max for lakes water proof and now if I am metal detecting and it rains I don't have to worry about my metal detector getting wet ..what do u think about the AT max with a upgraded coil like a 10x14 nel or the 13x14 coil on the max or should I leave it with the stock coil I use my metal detector more on parks school grounds and some time beach and lakes ? Thanks for making a good video as I don't believe in air test ground test is better I think air testing a metal detector is a waste of time but that is just me ..
The stock coil is great on the Max. Everyone should have a small 5x8 Coil for separation at those iron infested old home sites and a bigger coil for surface coverage/depth for big fields. I run the NEL Tornado Coil. The Thunder in another great option. Good luck