Yes, never give up, keep going to your destination, you both are awesome! You have done what very few people in the world can do, you are truly warriors! In short, pay attention to safety at all times, and keep reminding yourself to be careful, I believe you can do it! That fried fish and asparagus looks very delicious! That baby seal is so cute, I like it! Thank you for your donations, and thank you very much for sharing! Have a great travel! 👍🥰🙌
Thanks Gianni, for commenting on every video (we notice and read all your comments, even if we don't always reply!) and always being such a nice person 🥰
You've been to Mexico, central America & South America. You both know better than many of us couch surfers. Don't let our fears influence your determination, continue to stay safe. LETS GO LAKERS, LETS GO NAICK & KIM!! 😜
I had mentioned to put "Cooking Gourmet in the van on the road camping" in your title. Food looked wonderful as usual. Thanks for coming to the United States🇺🇸 it was very enjoyable having you here. You really saw and did a lot in the western states. Hopefully in the future you will come to the eastern half of the US. New England, Appalachian Mountains, the Pennsylvania Amish, the South, Florida, Tennessee, New Orleans, and Texas. 👍🏻👍🏻
I've lived in California my entire life, but the drive down the coast on Highway 1 still thrills me! It's so beautiful. I grew up going to Pismo Beach and it's still where my sisters and I meet up for our reunions.
Hey guys. I’m Bruno from Belgium. I’ve been watching a lot of TH-camrs enjoying vanlife. Funny how a lot of them know eachother. I have just subscribed to your channel so I have a lot of binging ahead of me to get to know you. I have traveled a lot in my life. I’m slowly working towards retirement and when I do I will go and buy myself a nice motorhome to go dwelling around Europe. I’ve gathered a lot of information on how to live this lifestyle. I’m a single guy and I am financially independent but I want to wait before leaving because I want to really have nothing on my mind when I finally start. Until then I’m just enjoying the on the road lifestyle from a distance. I’m very curious to see what you’ve been up to. I’m gonna comment regularly and wanna thank you already for your effort of sharing your life with us. I’m Flemish dus ik spreek Nederlands ! Looking forward to watch you guys Greets from Tienen ! Bruno
Hi Bruno/fellow Belgian 👌🏻 Yeah living, traveling and working in a van fulltime isn't always an experience that's very relatable for our friends and family, so it's always nice to meet fellow vanlifers who really understand what it's like, so I guess that's why we end up meeting up. It's great you have this plan, sounds like you're preparing well for it. It's always good to have some insights on the reality of being on the road fulltime and what it's like to live in a van with all its ups and downs. Some people get into van life because of the picture perfect Instagram shots they see, but end up getting disappointed because they didn't have realistic expectations. Wij speken ook Nederlands, misschien een beetje langzamer, want wij zijn van Limburg 😂
Hi guys, wanted to comment on the Peru news you mentioned... I was just in Peru from beginning of December until the end of January, and that's when the protests started and had been quite intense... yet it was not as bad as described in the news. Now they even opened Machu Picchu so I believe it is even much better than in January. So you shouldn't be worried. I was able to travel around despite the protests. Some roads were closed (e.g. to the Rainbow mountain), but otherwise it was not dangerous... so if the protests happen again, don't worry, you just stay in one place in Peru and wait a few days until they unblock the roads again... no need to be worried :). You're amazing, so glad you made it back on the road. Keep going, have fun, and good luck with everything.
Hi Nicoletta! Indeed, I just read that Machu Picchu has reopened! And that some tour companies that previously scratched their tour itineraries are getting back into it as well. That's good news. We'll keep an eye on it. Must have been interesting being there during a turbulent time :)
@@NaickKim yes I've read the reopening news, too. That's great, I hope it stays this way for you :). Yeah, unfortunately, I couldn't see places like Rainbow Mountain, neither Lake Titicaca nor Arequipa because locals blocked the roads... but most importantly, I was all safe so that's what I also wanted to tell you that despite the protests, it's still safe :). Anyways, have fun and enjoy... love your videos :)
Congratulations on the halfway point! Completely agree that you cannot let fear stop you living your life. Anything worth doing in life takes some risk. Without it, you may as well stay at home. But that’s the most dangerous thing of all! So excited to follow you all the way to Argentina, and beyond! 🐧 ❄️ xx
Fun, fun, video! And you were listening to Phil Wickham on your radio?! Phil Wickham is one of my FAVES!!! Very thoughtful comments you had about the wisdom of moving forward with your plans. Your bottom line was one that I agree with--if it's your dream and you've thoughtfully examined the options and planned to be careful as you can don't let the small possibility of something bad happening hold you back. Life is too short. It is a gift given to be enjoyed and lived to the fullest. Know that many of us are praying for your safety during your travels. Farewell from the US for awhile. It was so nice to have you in our country!
Thank you Laura! Yes, that is exactly how we feel :) there is risk in pretty much anything people do and this is no different. But it's a risk we are willing to take! Thank you for always being here with such kinds words and comments 🥰
Great to see Vin Vin is behaving himself at last, Naick is a great cook maybe a Cook Book ( Chef On Wheels ) I did not recognise Naick after his Magic Transformation, keep on having the Time of you Lives .
Another nice vlog guys. We love your excitement. Crack on. Life is tough. Yours is a different tough, one which most would swap for. Just be mindful of the unsettled areas. It can be dangerous. Love from Oz 🇦🇺
It's amazing that you were able to catch an elephant seal giving birth on the beach! Makes me glad, though, I didn't have such a big audience when giving birth to my two sons. :)
Haha, yeah, the mom elephant seal didn't have a lot of privacy 😂 it was really cool getting to witness that! Almost like a National Geographic moment :)
Wow, Big Sur didn't look like that when we went in 2019. On the day we were there, it was so cloudy and foggy, so we couldn't see much. It is a beautiful drive though. Thanks for bringing me back there! Continued safe travels!
If you book a tour in Ushuaia to Antarctica, you can easily save 50% or more on a last minute cruise. It’s still expensive but much more attainable. Also think about approaching cruise companies about creating content for them in exchange for the cruise. You guys are so strong and resilient, I know if you really want to make it down to Antarctica, you’ll make it happen. And I would love to see it. Excited for you guys to start heading into Latin America!
New viewer -- I'm specifically interested in all the border crossings. Even if you can't film at most of them I'm hoping you'll include your experience crossing out of, and in to each country. Love your energy!
Great to see your smiling faces, and another great video! Being there to see the birth of the elephant seal - awesome. Naick - meal looked so good!!!! Hope the border crossing went well. Anxious for next weeks vlog. - Coreen
Thanks Coreen! We made it into Mexico, but it was a little stressful at the border haha. More on that in the next video! We're a little bit behind at the moment because we've been moving fast in Mexico and were both ill for the past week, but we're gonna try to catch up to real time asap!
When you said viewers really enjoy Naick’s cooking, I reacted like you were talking directly to me! 🙋♀️ 😂 Please tell us how Naick developed his culinary skills. The entire meal looked delicious! It was pretty cool to see it from ocean to plate. Also, I am glad you addressed everyone’s concerns once & for all. Onward, my friends!
❤gotta love you guys with the strength and determination to keep on going. We are so happy for you and we do hope that Vinny stays well 😅 And Naick I don’t think I mentioned it last time… love that shirt. Cheers 🍻
When you were talking about getting to the border, I thought of an old song “I’ve got a long way to go, to make it to the border of Mexico”😂 Safe travels!
We absolutely loved it! We had to move a bit faster than anticipated because our US visa was running out fast after the breakdown, but the parts that we have seen were simply amazing
We have been following your journey. Have googled how to drive from Canada to Argentina, but it looks like there is no way to drive there because of the Darien Gap in Panama. Just wondering what your plans are to bypass the Darien Gap?
If you are concerned about safety in Sourh America, I suggest following Snow & Curt on TH-cam. They have been there for years. They also have a great channel if you don’t know of them.
For car insurance we went with Baja Bound as they have pretty good coverage and we've heard of other van lifers using them too. 6 months is the minimum. Thum I think also does car insurance for Mexico, but I don't think you can insure self-converted campers with them
Thank you so much for your quick reply and also thanks for putting up a really good video today about your border crossing process and experience. Safe travels and may God bless you guys and keep you safe and healthy. 🕯️✝️🕊️⛪📿🙏💫😘🤗😇
We really loved Utah and Arizona. Because of how unique the scenery is there. In terms of nature we really, really loved everywhere we've been in the US though. It has some of the best nature in the world. So it's hard to pick but Utah and Arizona were particularly special :) Zion, Valley of the Gods, Monument Valley, the Grand Canyon, etc. Just stunning!
Hi guys just watching you latest video and I’m so glad you answered the millionaire question the way you did what more do you need wonderful company a tank of diesel and food in your belly you have already won the lottery Onwards!!!!
Latin America is a lot more safe than many places in the world at the moment. You have experience traveling and with common sense and care, it will be all well.
There are a lot of van life people who have done and are doing the travel plan you are doing. Some are doing from the southern hemisphere to the north. Los Mundo are a beautiful Spaniard family who travel with 3 children in their converted truck.
Vinne is not old I think it can take you to South America. Baja California is beautiful & I have seen travelers crosing in Ferry to MX, the Furgo en Ruta have recomended "TMC" caused they let you sleep in your van while crossing from la PAZ to Puerto Mazatlan, avoiding the narco zone of Culiacan & Parte de Sinaloa. Many Rvers have done it. You can see them on youtube Snow & Curt (English Speakers) their journey started here in Orlando, FL and they're about to complete the journey. I have also follow Argentinian that have recreantly were in Peru (Chicos de la Ruta) now they're in Ecuador. Avoid Venezuela, their Left Gov had led them committee abuses & Nicaragua is kind of dangerous for the same reason. It is sad how some Latin American countries are messed up.
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Yes, never give up, keep going to your destination, you both are awesome! You have done what very few people in the world can do, you are truly warriors!
In short, pay attention to safety at all times, and keep reminding yourself to be careful, I believe you can do it!
That fried fish and asparagus looks very delicious! That baby seal is so cute, I like it!
Thank you for your donations, and thank you very much for sharing! Have a great travel! 👍🥰🙌
Thanks Gianni, for commenting on every video (we notice and read all your comments, even if we don't always reply!) and always being such a nice person 🥰
@@NaickKim You are most welcome! It's my honor, thanks to you too! Both you are awesome! 👍🥰❤🙏
能看到你们继续上路太好了！祝福㊗
great to see you guys on the road again. Cheers!
can't wait to see your guys next vlog about Mexico road trip
You've been to Mexico, central America & South America. You both know better than many of us couch surfers. Don't let our fears influence your determination, continue to stay safe. LETS GO LAKERS, LETS GO NAICK & KIM!! 😜
That's the spirit! Thank you!! :)
Sending best wishes from South Korea. You two are inspirational!
I had mentioned to put "Cooking Gourmet in the van on the road camping" in your title. Food looked wonderful as usual. Thanks for coming to the United States🇺🇸 it was very enjoyable having you here. You really saw and did a lot in the western states. Hopefully in the future you will come to the eastern half of the US. New England, Appalachian Mountains, the Pennsylvania Amish, the South, Florida, Tennessee, New Orleans, and Texas. 👍🏻👍🏻
There is definitely more to see in the US, so we will be back :)
@@NaickKim Hope so! You both were a real pleasure to watch traveling from state to state and Canada too. You did far more than most.
謝謝你們帶來這美麗的風景！
NEVER GIVE UP! ALWAYS DREAM ON! You guys are an inspiration!
How cool to see everything working out for you guys, finally! Can't wait to see you in Mexico... :)
Thank you Diane! :)
I've lived in California my entire life, but the drive down the coast on Highway 1 still thrills me! It's so beautiful. I grew up going to Pismo Beach and it's still where my sisters and I meet up for our reunions.
OMG The elephant seals are amazing. You really saw a lot of wildlife on your journey. Again you capture all the right things. Love it! ♥️👍🏻👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@NaickKim I can't believe it gave birth right infront of you. What Incredible timing.
Hey guys. I’m Bruno from Belgium. I’ve been watching a lot of TH-camrs enjoying vanlife. Funny how a lot of them know eachother. I have just subscribed to your channel so I have a lot of binging ahead of me to get to know you. I have traveled a lot in my life. I’m slowly working towards retirement and when I do I will go and buy myself a nice motorhome to go dwelling around Europe. I’ve gathered a lot of information on how to live this lifestyle. I’m a single guy and I am financially independent but I want to wait before leaving because I want to really have nothing on my mind when I finally start. Until then I’m just enjoying the on the road lifestyle from a distance. I’m very curious to see what you’ve been up to. I’m gonna comment regularly and wanna thank you already for your effort of sharing your life with us. I’m Flemish dus ik spreek Nederlands !
Looking forward to watch you guys
Greets from Tienen !
Bruno
Hi Bruno/fellow Belgian 👌🏻
Yeah living, traveling and working in a van fulltime isn't always an experience that's very relatable for our friends and family, so it's always nice to meet fellow vanlifers who really understand what it's like, so I guess that's why we end up meeting up.
It's great you have this plan, sounds like you're preparing well for it. It's always good to have some insights on the reality of being on the road fulltime and what it's like to live in a van with all its ups and downs. Some people get into van life because of the picture perfect Instagram shots they see, but end up getting disappointed because they didn't have realistic expectations.
Wij speken ook Nederlands, misschien een beetje langzamer, want wij zijn van Limburg 😂
The coast is stunning. You really captured the beauty! Still watching!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you. We really loved the highway 1!
Hi guys, wanted to comment on the Peru news you mentioned... I was just in Peru from beginning of December until the end of January, and that's when the protests started and had been quite intense... yet it was not as bad as described in the news. Now they even opened Machu Picchu so I believe it is even much better than in January. So you shouldn't be worried. I was able to travel around despite the protests. Some roads were closed (e.g. to the Rainbow mountain), but otherwise it was not dangerous... so if the protests happen again, don't worry, you just stay in one place in Peru and wait a few days until they unblock the roads again... no need to be worried :).
You're amazing, so glad you made it back on the road. Keep going, have fun, and good luck with everything.
Hi Nicoletta! Indeed, I just read that Machu Picchu has reopened! And that some tour companies that previously scratched their tour itineraries are getting back into it as well. That's good news. We'll keep an eye on it. Must have been interesting being there during a turbulent time :)
@@NaickKim yes I've read the reopening news, too. That's great, I hope it stays this way for you :). Yeah, unfortunately, I couldn't see places like Rainbow Mountain, neither Lake Titicaca nor Arequipa because locals blocked the roads... but most importantly, I was all safe so that's what I also wanted to tell you that despite the protests, it's still safe :).
Anyways, have fun and enjoy... love your videos :)
@@nicolettahabsudova6485 yes, that is indeed the most important thing! We're glad you still had fun.
Congratulations on the halfway point! Completely agree that you cannot let fear stop you living your life. Anything worth doing in life takes some risk. Without it, you may as well stay at home. But that’s the most dangerous thing of all! So excited to follow you all the way to Argentina, and beyond! 🐧 ❄️ xx
Thanks guys 🥰🥰 you are so right! Hopefully our paths will cross again on the way south, you never know 😉
謝謝你們帶來的美景，超愛你們的~❤️
Great video! Happy things are looking up for you guys :) And love every segment of Naick cooking. I wish I could taste his food.
I wish you had a few more days in SoCal, but you nevertheless managed to see most of the state. Best luck with another border crossing very soon!
You both make me smile so much. Your happiness is contagious 😁
😊 aw, that's so nice to hear!
No giving up! It would be a sin if you give up. "life is full of setbacks, enjoy the ride". I belive in vinnie 😊 thanks for the recipe Naick.
Vinny says thank you ;) he believes in you too!
Fun, fun, video! And you were listening to Phil Wickham on your radio?! Phil Wickham is one of my FAVES!!! Very thoughtful comments you had about the wisdom of moving forward with your plans. Your bottom line was one that I agree with--if it's your dream and you've thoughtfully examined the options and planned to be careful as you can don't let the small possibility of something bad happening hold you back. Life is too short. It is a gift given to be enjoyed and lived to the fullest. Know that many of us are praying for your safety during your travels. Farewell from the US for awhile. It was so nice to have you in our country!
Thank you Laura! Yes, that is exactly how we feel :) there is risk in pretty much anything people do and this is no different. But it's a risk we are willing to take! Thank you for always being here with such kinds words and comments 🥰
It was amazing that the mother seal had the same voice as Kim when she spoke to her baby for the first time.
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Great to see Vin Vin is behaving himself at last, Naick is a great cook maybe a Cook Book ( Chef On Wheels ) I did not recognise Naick after his Magic Transformation, keep on having the Time of you Lives .
Another nice vlog guys. We love your excitement. Crack on. Life is tough. Yours is a different tough, one which most would swap for. Just be mindful of the unsettled areas. It can be dangerous. Love from Oz 🇦🇺
I am so happy you guys are rolling!!! Cannot wait to see Mexico through your experience!!!! Safe travels!!!!
Thanks Michelle!!
It's amazing that you were able to catch an elephant seal giving birth on the beach! Makes me glad, though, I didn't have such a big audience when giving birth to my two sons. :)
Haha, yeah, the mom elephant seal didn't have a lot of privacy 😂 it was really cool getting to witness that! Almost like a National Geographic moment :)
Wow, Big Sur didn't look like that when we went in 2019. On the day we were there, it was so cloudy and foggy, so we couldn't see much. It is a beautiful drive though. Thanks for bringing me back there! Continued safe travels!
Beautiful video. Glad you got everything done and got to decompress. Hope you are both feeling better. Much love.
Thanks Virginia! Mexico, here we come ;)
If you book a tour in Ushuaia to Antarctica, you can easily save 50% or more on a last minute cruise. It’s still expensive but much more attainable. Also think about approaching cruise companies about creating content for them in exchange for the cruise. You guys are so strong and resilient, I know if you really want to make it down to Antarctica, you’ll make it happen. And I would love to see it. Excited for you guys to start heading into Latin America!
Thanks Christina! :)
New viewer -- I'm specifically interested in all the border crossings. Even if you can't film at most of them I'm hoping you'll include your experience crossing out of, and in to each country. Love your energy!
Thanks Sherri! You're gonna like the next video then :) border crossing into Mexico.
Exciting! I’m sure Vinnie will be just fine. Alaska is notorious for wrecking vehicles.
We've had a very serious talk with him, so we hope he'll be on his best behavior from now on 😉
I’m so happy you made it to Monterey and the coast. Enjoy the rest of your drive.
Thank you!
Never Give Up, Great video as always! Thank you for sharing
It is so nice to see you again!
Thank you! 😊
I would definitely buy a Naick cookbook! Love the food footage.
I’m glad you guys are feeling better. Can’t wait to see the Mexico vlogs!
Coming soon! Trying to edit the border crossing as we speak :)
Great to see your smiling faces, and another great video! Being there to see the birth of the elephant seal - awesome. Naick - meal looked so good!!!! Hope the border crossing went well. Anxious for next weeks vlog. - Coreen
Thanks Coreen! We made it into Mexico, but it was a little stressful at the border haha. More on that in the next video! We're a little bit behind at the moment because we've been moving fast in Mexico and were both ill for the past week, but we're gonna try to catch up to real time asap!
Great video guys, looking forward to the next one.
When you said viewers really enjoy Naick’s cooking, I reacted like you were talking directly to me! 🙋♀️ 😂 Please tell us how Naick developed his culinary skills. The entire meal looked delicious! It was pretty cool to see it from ocean to plate. Also, I am glad you addressed everyone’s concerns once & for all. Onward, my friends!
You can make it Vinny good luck
Another great video. Thank you 🥰
What a great video!!! I’m glad Vinnie is doing well!!! Can’t wait for the next one 😊😊😊
Thank you!!
Awesome!!! Where did you see the seals ?
San Simeon! I wanted to make a little pop-up card for the location, but apparently forgot about that. It's near Hearst Castle
All the best to both of you🙏🏻🌈 great soulmate 💕 takecare and enjoy the present moment 🥰
Thank you! Will do!
This is going to be epic episode adventure
❤gotta love you guys with the strength and determination to keep on going. We are so happy for you and we do hope that Vinny stays well 😅 And Naick I don’t think I mentioned it last time… love that shirt. Cheers 🍻
Im so excited for this next leg of your journey. You guys are truly inspirational!! Ps the seals made my day
When you were talking about getting to the border, I thought of an old song “I’ve got a long way to go, to make it to the border of Mexico”😂 Safe travels!
We also had a looong time to wait once we got to the border. You'll hear all about it in the next video Shannon ;)
Hey you're in my neck of the woods! We hope your stay on the Central Coast was incredible!
We absolutely loved it! We had to move a bit faster than anticipated because our US visa was running out fast after the breakdown, but the parts that we have seen were simply amazing
@@NaickKim Safe travels to Mexico! We hope you come back soon!
welcome to Morocco🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦 Venez au Maroc, soyez les bienvenus
We have been following your journey. Have googled how to drive from Canada to Argentina, but it looks like there is no way to drive there because of the Darien Gap in Panama. Just wondering what your plans are to bypass the Darien Gap?
Hi Jim. You are right! We will have to ship Vinny across the Darien Gap. There is no other way :) we'll explain more about this at some point!
If you are concerned about safety in Sourh America, I suggest following Snow & Curt on TH-cam. They have been there for years. They also have a great channel if you don’t know of them.
loved it oo jullie twee,nooit saai..
Thanks Robert :)
Kim, What is the name of the insurance company you use when crossing into Mexico and for how long?
For car insurance we went with Baja Bound as they have pretty good coverage and we've heard of other van lifers using them too. 6 months is the minimum. Thum I think also does car insurance for Mexico, but I don't think you can insure self-converted campers with them
Thank you so much for your quick reply and also thanks for putting up a really good video today about your border crossing process and experience. Safe travels and may God bless you guys and keep you safe and healthy. 🕯️✝️🕊️⛪📿🙏💫😘🤗😇
@@alexnoftz8442 you're welcome!! :)
We love Monterey!
We'll go there next time!
as a foreigner where in the US did you find the prettiest and recommend to visit? thanks
We really loved Utah and Arizona. Because of how unique the scenery is there. In terms of nature we really, really loved everywhere we've been in the US though. It has some of the best nature in the world. So it's hard to pick but Utah and Arizona were particularly special :) Zion, Valley of the Gods, Monument Valley, the Grand Canyon, etc. Just stunning!
Hi guys just watching you latest video and I’m so glad you answered the millionaire question the way you did what more do you need wonderful company a tank of diesel and food in your belly you have already won the lottery Onwards!!!!
So true!
Nice
Thanks Shane!
Lol the higher ups
:)
一路順風~
Latin America is a lot more safe than many places in the world at the moment. You have experience traveling and with common sense and care, it will be all well.
Couldn't agree more :)
There are a lot of van life people who have done and are doing the travel plan you are doing. Some are doing from the southern hemisphere to the north. Los Mundo are a beautiful Spaniard family who travel with 3 children in their converted truck.
Wow
Highway 1 is a beauty, isn't she 🥰🥰
@@NaickKim I love yours it and our hk high way road to yuen long tsw number 3, from hk island
I born in 2001 June 28 hk
I now living in Malaysia puchong,2021 July 26 leave hk
Bus have 265b,269c etc, who via passing riding throwing this number 3 highway road
Vinne is not old I think it can take you to South America. Baja California is beautiful & I have seen travelers crosing in Ferry to MX, the Furgo en Ruta have recomended "TMC" caused they let you sleep in your van while crossing from la PAZ to Puerto Mazatlan, avoiding the narco zone of Culiacan & Parte de Sinaloa. Many Rvers have done it. You can see them on youtube Snow & Curt (English Speakers) their journey started here in Orlando, FL and they're about to complete the journey. I have also follow Argentinian that have recreantly were in Peru (Chicos de la Ruta) now they're in Ecuador. Avoid Venezuela, their Left Gov had led them committee abuses & Nicaragua is kind of dangerous for the same reason. It is sad how some Latin American countries are messed up.
I like haircut magic~~一路順風
😃👌🏻😂
Unbelievable. Y'all get the best experiences. That's not common at all. To be able to see a live birth. Whoaa!!
We know 😭 so amazing!
釣魚高手啊😂
:)
为啥你们粉丝还没突破10w 视频质量挺高的
:) :)
Next trip should be africa good luck hahaha
USA concidering safe comparing to South America, lol 🤣
if i won a $million. i would retire. buy a van .. and drive from canada to Argentina.. 😛
Love it, haha! We can give you some pointers on that when the time comes David ;) (or at the very least pointers on what not to do on the route, haha)
🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍💪💪💪🌈🌈🌈
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Gee, you are in California: you must have hurt perch feelings.