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PETERBILT FRAME STRETCH PT12 NEW TIRES AND NEW PROBLEMS! LIFT AXLE IS IN BAD SHAPE!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ค. 2023
- IN THIS VIDEO WE REMOVE THE LIFT AXLE FOM THE OTHER TRUCK. WE HAVE NAMED THE OTHER TRUCK "SOUP SANDWICH"....WHAT A MESS. AS WE REMOVE THE LIFT AXLE A WELD ACTUALLY FALLS OFF THE TRUCK! WE THEN TEAR THE AXLE APART TO INPSECT ITS CONDITION. JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE ON THESE TRUCKS, IT IS WORN OUT, IMPROPERLY REPAIRED OR NEGLECTED. SO TIRED OF THIS JUNK....WE JUST WANT TO QUIT. I GET ALL THE PARTS ORDERED. THEN WE MOVE ON TO TIRES. IT GETS 8 NEW DRIVE TIRES. WE INSTALL THEM ON THE DAYTON HUBS AND CENTER THEM. SET THE RIDE HEIGHT AND START TO GET HTE DRIVESHAFT INSTALLED.....BUT WAIT! THERE IS MORE! THE DRIVE SHAFT YOKE IS WORN OUT AND HAS NO THREADS IN TWO OF THE BEARING CAP RETAINER BOLT HOLES! PERFECT!! ANOTHER DELAY AND MORE MONEY!
SO CLOSE. YET SO FAR....
You're great at making crazy death traps into honest, hard-working, respectful trucks. Also, your camera woman is on point.
You do better frame work than most professional shops. Plus I’m always impressed at the attention you pay to the little details!
Loved your wife’s comment “let’s skip town” I feel for you on this job, must be tough to keep your incentive up to keep going.
it is for sure. the cost of parts and the cost of my lost revenue for 5 months now is really taking its toll on us.
You need a tire cage. Yes I know those are not split rims, but in my time mounting truck tires I had about one new recap a week that would blow out while airing it up. Just saying I don't want to see you hurt. You do nice work.
Your understanding and explanation of drive lines and u joints is spot on. My opinion is based on building drive lines for years as a technician. I enjoyed watching as always. Thanks for your time as I know it's valuable.
Thank you for showing how difficult it is to properly stretch out a frame and replace all the worn parts. It is also nice to see you have sown how bad other individuals shortcut and butcher a frame job. That is one of the worst frames I've ever seen that you took the drop axle off of. Please keep making these videos.
We always ran recaps cross country. Just not on the steering axle of course. Recaps are lots cheaper and they last longer than you might think. Keep on trucking JC.
hello jc and mrs.smith its is randy and i like yours video is cool thanks friends randy
I have been a professional welder for over fifty years. For a hobby I built race cars and street vehicles during these years. Never have seen such a mess. Danger Danger ! 😂
Don't think of it as truck repair, Think of it as saving lives. Even though it's not what you signed up for.
I am amazed at every project you build. Your like a modern day Dr. Frankenstein. You take rusty, worn out, and broken parts that no one would look at twice and assemble them into useful, working trucks. It shows that with a lifetime of knowledge, money and drive anything can be accomplished.
i like to save money where i can so i can put it on the things that really matter. sometimes it requires more work but if the truck is safer....i am ok with that.
Great effort on that rebuild of just about everything project. Sometimes it almost makes a person throwup his hands, but you have just about rounded the bend. Ill bet the parts people give you two sticky calenders next year. Take care, Bill
just keep chugging along.....we will get there. when we do, we can be content with the work we did.
watch all your videos of those beautiful Peterbilts and your great ideas to modify your trucks, I do the same with them here in the south of Mexico, mig welding and cutting irons for the truck, greetings from Chiapas Mexico
Them welds just falling off from vibration is crazy . This guy that did that work should not be allowed to touch another truck ever again.but it’s awesome to see it’s on it own wheels .
Sadly when you don’t have as much overhead like big shops your quality of work goes up a lot he’s very good at what he does
@ Jonathan Murphy, No, that guy should have both hands cut off with the oxy torch he used to butcher this frame, so he Couldn't work on a truck or any other vehicle ever again!
At least the project is consistent and everything thing is fubar.
Thanks for the great explanation on the driveline angles.
I worked for Peterbuilt back in "76-80" set up many new truck air ride messed up from the factory. You got it figured out JC. But .. . There will still be the special - 1 - that vibrates no matter what ya do. 👍
yep. that is why some carrier bearings have shims!
Good clear explanation on drive line angles. Unfortunate with all the problems you keep running into but atleast by doing the extra work now he should have minimal issues once he starts using the truck
Problems get old . Great video .
Good video. Awesome explanations on angles. And I agree. Re-caps on this truck is a good choice 👌
The gift that keeps on giving.
Huge learning curve for me watching this video. I may need to get that angle measure tool. Eye sight is not the best way to judge the angle of the drive shaft. You did really a good job by starting getting rid of all the hackery and doing it right. Explaining things along the way helps to understand why you can't cut corners.
yep. cutting corners is why i ended up building him another truck.
Blew those holes out with a torch supposed to drill them out you’re a brave man to take on that nightmare
Hello from the Netherlands.
thanks for the video JC and Mrs.Smith .
Sincerely Hollandduck
Keep fixing it right and you’ll get it done and the customer will be extremely grateful for your time and effort
You got the part about J.C. getting it done.
However, in my experience, this type of customer will NOT appreciate the quality of work.
EVER.
Bad deal for J.C. and professionals like him!
pushing that rock up the hill little by little....
this truck has your frustration level maxed out JC. but you being a man of integrity , wont let junk go on a customer's vehicle. JC will never be that I know a guy type hack
it is what it is......just some more time and money. make it right or dont make it at all.
Thanks JC for explaining. I admit it was way over my head to understand.
They did a terrible job putting that truck together I wouldn't want to be behind the driving down the road I know you'll make it right👍
I cant believe the condition of some of the trucks running over the pond. You would get the book thrown at you here and lose your repute and get shut down never to be able to run trucks again. It good to see someone doing a proper job...well done
*Absolute phenomenal* work J.C! 🔥 I'm glad to see the truck setting back on rubber 😁👍 It's a shame to hear the drivshaft was worn out too. Hopefully you have a replacement. Oh yeah, I can only imagine the time and money invested just to this point. Hope you and Mrs. JC have a great week. Take care, be safe and happy wrenching 🔧⚙
i am so ready to be done with this truck. one set back after another. the next video will show the next set back....
Man, that fella sure was confident in his abilities, crazy that the owner never noticed some of that stuff
get that it wasn't in the road, but still did he buy it over the phone? And have a porter pick it up?
The best choice the owner ever made was takimg that heap to JC Smith for tail lights
Those other frames on that condemned truck. You got a new welding machine. Fill in all those holes and grind like new. Metal is great to manipulate!😊
i cant make the frame thick again......it is rusted to a point it is too thin to be used.
Great video J.C.Smith really enjoy watching you work on this truck frame lengthening. Not to mention just how bad the work on the truck frame you refused to wire up. Really enjoy your attention to details on putting together a purpose built truck that will work for what it is intended for. Looking forward to your next video stay safe Mr & Mrs J.C.Smith.
I'm glad you are doing the job on the other truck
always great info an video plus you don't let trucks on the road that are unsafe much respect jc for what you do,Chris from Cashmere.
As a long time tech, recaps are fine if you check the air in the tires regularly, and don't run heavy haul. Stupidity of drivers is the primary cause of losing caps off tires.
Truck will be done correctly when you get done with it JC.
Should call this project death trap. Definitely would have hurt someone. Glad you are doing this video!! Weld fell off a haha ha!!! Rofl!!!!!great!!!!!
great explanation on driveshaft angles i used to do some drag racing with leaf spring rear suspension everyone wondered why my car worked and theirs didn't i explained seems like hundreds of times about pinion angles they never got it. everyone wants to measure from earth not driveshaft to pinion or to ujoint. Job well done thanks
It IS amazing how pinion angle affects traction.
I come from truck and tractor pulling,, so,, there is that !
Props to you for trying to share! I'm not so nice.
JC - wow.. I cant believe how much of a turd this thing turned into...OMG...Soup Sandwich indeed!. That said... you got Moxie and Brass! I enjoy everything you do and have full confidence in you and really love your content!
This truck is the equivalence of getting into an argument with a women… when you think it’s done and they come back into the room saying “and another thing!”
Best analogy ever. You sir have won the internet today.
Women ….you can’t live with them!
You must really love what you do because that’s a lot of work done correctly 😮
if it was easy everyone would do it....
I run recaps for drives all the time they do fine!
I didn’t know you could use maple syrup as gear oil🤣! When it rains it pours J.C. Don’t blame you guys for wanting to skip town! I was thinking to myself watching this I wouldn’t be surprised if that messed up truck becomes a MEME on the internet someday. Great work as always. See you on the next one👍
I'm glad you kept it off the road because that was a accident waiting to happen
I have seen bearings like that. It’s a sort of harmonic. At first it looks like the cone was used to push the race in.
Great video, very informative about drivelines. I had to wonder if you had done the wheels, they would’ve been painted inside AND outside. Thanks again
they would have been done differently for sure....
Ran recaps on 11 axle units grossing 164k. Low air pressure kills tires, and damaged casings. Someone recapping a 20 year old casing that has been recapped 3 times, then run low on air. No kidding they explode.
Here in the UK we call that sort of welding "Pigeon Shit" lol. The worst welding I've ever seen on a vehicle of any sort! That bearing pre load was far too tight. There is something wrong with that spacer. Maybe the idiot who did the work ground a bit off of it lol I'd check manufacturers of hubs specs for the spacer dimensions. Personally I would have changed the hub bearings but, hey I used to love spending customers money lol Your explanation of the prop shaft geometry was absolutely excellent. I don't think that could have been explained better anywhere!
Not really a heavy truck guy BUT i just subbed great video content 👏👏👏🇨🇦
Lucky for the owner and shadetree person it would be an insult to you sir and other mechanics master of of your trade the ministry never saw this giant heap of scrap metal
It’s looking great keep up the good work
I've got a magnetic angle gauge I bought when I had to weld spring perches onto a project truck. Haven't used it since, but the +4/-4 degree rule stuck with me ever since... now if only I could retain info I actually need
I’d hate to be the guy that your showcasing his best work 😅
It’s like you’re opening a new can of worms every step of the way but when you are finished you will be satisfied that you went through this truck with a fine tooth comb 🪮 and it is safe and solid. Thank you for sharing JC And Mrs JC. After the build you should take a vacation to recover and relax.
well at least the back half has been gone over....once this is done we are taking some time and going to our place in wv. we wont stay long. this project has put such a huge financial burden on me, i need to get to work on my own and see if i can recover.
The old gas axe conversion
You spent a lot of money, but that will be a nice truck with NO DEF and that is totally worth it.
Wow
There should be a D.O.T. J.C. Smith standard for all rebuilds of heavy trucks. That's my opinion. I don't care who you are!
You Warren ezzyrider and kt3406e are the best of the best!
Oh yea and ol Wayno
Man everything you touch off that thing is just been trashed it’s mind boggling that someone charged to do this lol
Great job explaining things so very well, thank you. I was wondering what the weight rating of the steer axle happens to be?
12k
Yeah those air bags are a little over 150 I bought 2 for a trailer only one got put on because something else needed fix then the trailer got scraped a few months later and I still have the other air bag. Only if you was closer. I have that and brakes for that trailer just taking up space
Maybe JC will pay the freight?
if you want to sell them, email me. j.c.smithprojects@gmail.com
Ok I'll email you with part numbers when I get home
JC , after this truck you need to do something for yourself maybe the old Chevy car you bought a long time ago
i have another truck build lined up right after this. i have to get my own trucks built and sold.
Really put the project in jc Smith projects on this one
Its always fun to do this stuff when the plan is to fully restore a vehicle. You expect to take apart all the cobbled together bullshit and replace most of it.
Somehow, it always feels like theres no end when you're trying to polish a turd that someone set on fire and a third party stomped out.
agreed. i had set aside 4 weeks up to 6 weeks originally.....then we found all the issues. its been 5 months now.
My very first years of wanting to be a truck driver meant starting for companies that had troubles getting a driver for their junk on the road and this soup can reminds me of it.. like they say, I've been to two county fairs and three carnivals.. but this beats anything I have seen before. I wonder if the guy who did this carnivore kind of work could pass a drug test ... even tho the first guy i did drive for was poor, and I mean really poor, that junk of his was new compare to this kind of accident just waiting
Wow, just when you think you’ve seen it all something else tears it’s ugly head. The truck that just keeps taking!!! 🫤🤔😐. 👍🇺🇦👍🇺🇦
It's like a train wreck
Totally priceless
It is a shame that what was still a truck that could have been repaired and put on the road, and now, with the poor work on the frame, the whole mess is scrap bound!
I have great respect for you and you wife.😂❤
Is there any chance whatsoever that you will find a part that doesn’t need replacing or repairing on this project ? Love your mind set that it’s right and properly done and safe. First class video !! Thanks for sharing 🇬🇧
i guess the next video will show that.....ugggg.
Caps are fine. Half the chassis in my bosses fleet still run 10x20 tubes. That are caps. Or stranger yet a bias 11.22.5
I just discovered this series so i havent watched all the videos.When stretching a truck frame the steering arms usually need to be changed to give proper steering geometry. The arm on the spindle that the drag link and the tie rod ends attach to. The reason is if they are not the right arms for the frame length the steering tires will not be in sync and will fight each other.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Cody Foster What's so funny? Have you ever driven a truck with a stretched frame that didn't steer well. It's not much fun.
It is called the ackermann theory. it will be minimal on this truck as the drives were only moved back a small amount.
@@j.c.smithprojects Yea so there...
@J.C. SMITH PROJECTS I've not heard the name of it before, thanks for that. It was explained to me by an automotive engineer years ago and as a diesel mechanic I have know many people who have stretched frames and none of them had heard of it.
It's a wonder it lasted this long
Tornado siren at 16:26?
An sorry I always comment before I watch whole video but that's all I could watch at the time an I'm curious what kinda chart u use to determine the brakes cause I have a older truck I've had problems finding parts for an not really sure of the axles and it needs brakes an axle seal an thanks for the great video an teaching on drive shaft angle
it is just an online chart from meritor.
Chop that junk frame into foot long sections and let a local blacksmith make some knives from those frame bits. So something useful can be made from the junk. Chopping it up makes sure it can't somehow make its way back under a cab to be on the road again.
Presumably the owner is working on a budget or he wouldn't be dealing with an older truck. However when you compare the repairs to the cost of a new truck he will be ahead. Once the problems are fixed correctly this truck will probably be more reliable than a brand new truck
i have spent over 3 time his entire budget just on parts. it should be a good reliable mall mechanical truck. it should be cheap and easy to care for when i am done.
I've heard there's the right way, the wrong way and the elevator guy way, the wrong way but faster.
I need that lift axle once you rebuild it. Haha. I’m not sure what I would need to do to fit one in front of my single drive with the drive shaft dropping down more. 🤔
Wassup
That thick oil looks like stop leak to me ?
or......overheated gear oil
This truck is so depressing. Even I can’t wait for it to be gone 😂
Talk about some of the worst work pure laziness that was done to that truck hence why your doing it right but that shit shouldn’t happen
I can't believe the former owner was so oblivious about how messed up his rig was when he brought it to you. You'd have to be darn near blind to not see so much butchery.
like i wasnt going to see it and point it out either?
If this is your typical day ( and from what I have seen it probably is ) you have to be bone tired when you get home. I'll bet you don't have trouble going to sleep...
these tires do tak it out of me......they are a young man's game.
I just cant fathem why the customer wouldnt just have bought a newer axle setup, that would switched everything to hub pilot. seems like a no brainer since your already doing all that work.
If you’ve watched the series on the truck, you’ll see this guy doesn’t think smart. He thinks to save a “buck” and spends $1000 extra each time instead
@@braaapattack2937 yeah man I’ve seen that, trucking is the wrong business for that kind of mentality.
That soup sandwich frame is sheer junk....looks like nothing is usable on it anymore. As Bugs Bunny used to say, "What a maroon!"
To anyone out there that might (or will at one time) have said 'Why do I need to know math? I'll never use any of that' or something similar....Well....This is why. Those pesky numbers and geometric theorems can and will pop up anywhere and everywhere...regardless of how little you might think you'll 'never use them'.
TBH....I'm not even sure how I ended up on this channel. I'm not a trucker, I wouldn't even think of calling myself a mechanic....I do have some fabrication and engineering experience but nothing as involved as making sure a several ton potential death trap is safe for the work it is intended and the roads it will use. That said....I'm a new fan. Correcting the lazy work of butchers AND math combined with some hard work and willingness to learn? I'm all for that.
Thank you for providing this content...I may not ever use anything learned personally (at least not in this particular field or application) but someone, somewhere will and passing on your knowledge and ability has immense value and again...I can't thank you enough.
dont know how you landed here but welcome! we appreciate everyone that watches. this truck will weigh in at over 60,000lbs when it is loaded. no room for any shortcuts.
This will be the truck a driver wrecks first time out. So much work to get the truck back to right and boom.
dont say that....
@@j.c.smithprojects Sorry, don't want to jinx things but I have been around trucks all my life and know the poor quality of drivers today.
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I remember when lots of trucks had those Dayton hubs and so many of them had both tires wobbling going down the highway. Is there any reason to run them instead of one piece wheels?
no advantage to me. some people love them. im not one of them.
The tank is not supposed to be solid mounted to the frame so it can move independent of the frame, otherwise it can crack. Where those washers were, they were supposed to be springs. I am very surprised anyone drive this away from the shop or didn't check in on his work.
Not everyone is an expert. This guy paid to get a job done and had to take a guess the guy was competent. He wasn't and the owner got burned. But the owner is paying to have it done properly. Case of now he knows when he didn't before.
you might like the mounts i make for the tanker.
Hello, I need help please,
Someone install steerable drop axle on my truck. When I test ride, the drop axle keeps turning right and makes the ride unstable. What can be the problem?
I never did like those because if you don't do it right they will come off
I know it sucks having all those delays due to faulty parts but hopefully people are learning not to just slap parts together out of frustration or budget concerns
just have to stay focused. i have not come this far to cobble it up now....
Was the axle cocked on the frame? Trying to dog track?
Wow. What year is the truck? The owner could not find a truck already close to what he needed? The amount of work (labor/parts)... if it was your OWN, I would understand.... but.. wow
this is a fairy specialized and rare type of truck. the ones available and reasonable in price are usually worn out and need all this work. ones that are in good condition and work ready are far too expensive. $150,000 and up
How come there are no torque rods on the differentials. The ones that run parallel to the frame that counter the engine torque.
the bushing in the eyelet of the spring must be enough to hold it in place for the peterbilt engineers.
@@j.c.smithprojects can you explain that design with no torque rods works in your next video.
Going on what you've already shown us, is the original so called doubler a hindrance instead of the help it's meant to be? And would it be better to remove it?
doesnt matter either way...the original frame is bad.
@@j.c.smithprojects Ok point taken