@@atreast.4331 Δυστυχώς φίλε. Δύσκολα βρίσκεις. Και αν βρεις δεν ξέρω κατά πόσο αξιόπιστα είναι. Βασικές μας πηγές είναι οι αρχαίοι Έλληνες ιστοριογραφοι, φιλόσοφοι και όποιοι άλλοι έκαναν παρόμοια καταγραφή. Σου προτείνω πάντως τη σελίδες καστροπολιτες Διδυμοτειχου. Έχουν και Facebook και TH-cam. Ανεβάζουν πολύ συχνά πράγματα στο Facebook.
As a Thracian from the Rhodopi region i really enjoyed this video. Thank you for sharing 2 Excellent books on Thracians i can recommend. Chris Webber The Gods if Battle: The Thracians at war 1500BC - AD 150 Also the thracians 700 bc-ad 46
@@Svarog187 Bulgaria has nothing to do with slavs genrtically and it id on thrscian öand that was home to everyone else but slavs. Slavs lived only in north and only few tribes while it was thragian homr for crnturies
Herodotus says that they weren’t united in polis city state so they are undeveloped Greeks used to be in city states except Thracians which they didn’t unite in polis so they stayed in barbaric culture compared to the rest of the Greeks
@@apmikalogran I have an Indian name. I’m not even close to Indian. Also there are loads of Simons in India wander I’d they’re Jews and white people. There’s nothing in a name 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@dikshachettri1037 Yes you may have today a lot of names today but back then when you had the connection from the Greek myths and history you were also a part of it Now what is happening is totally different to what was happening back then The Thracians used to be the barbaric part of Greeks with not any polis but the Thracian culture name gives the thriskia which is religion and all the mysteries to the Greek world Orpheus the Thracian was Greek and not from the moon as the Slavs can’t have ancestors from Macedonia but now they have the name because of geopolitical games
You definitely have some Balkan DNA. Unlike you local Balkan nations have way more Thracian DNA. I can tell you what my DNA test result showed. 11% Eastern slav genes/ coming somewhere from Ukranian Steps/, 2% Western Uralic Turk and 87% Easter Mediterranean genes a.k.a thracian genes. My home city is located 65km away from the capital city of the only historical thracian country called the Odryssian Kingdom, named Seutopolis so it makes sense.
@@M.Georgiev8527 Mostly from Illyrians and Pannonian Illyrians. Seutopolis it is in Bulgaria, isn't it? I have some dna samples from Bulgaria during Iron Age. We are so blessed about our ancestors🙏🏻💙!
How was that a good job??? he has practically implied that the geto dacians did not exist north of Danube and they where less civilised than the rest of the thrchians.Yet all of the thrachians south of the Danube where conquered and enslaved by romans long before the dacian wars even begun.
You got me. I adore readings of the classical sources, what were their observations, thoughts, beliefs on their people and the people around them. It's telling that he compares the Thracians to the Indians, being as large as they were. Great work!
Thank you! Off the top of my head I don’t know any…. But I would imagine there are Greek and probably later Roman sources about Illyria … especially since it was under Roman rule for a long time
@@HistoryLeaks Many sources about the Illyrians, I mention just a few ANCIENT only sources such as Stageiritis, Plutarch, Strabo, Plato and more all knew Illyrians as a barbaric tribe, often fought against Macedonians who are Hellenes. Illyrians is an ancient tribe nothing to do with Asian Albanians and their fake State established on 20th century
Thracians are protohellenes, all epigraph, ancient monuments cities, temples tombs if you ever visit Thrace are only in HELLENIC letters and words@robertolang9684
Does this map show connections between Thracia and Morocco ( North Africa )? Because I'm looking for that connection... When I was there I found that their local language is very easy to read and understand from me(im bulgarian) and the letters are pronounced the same way, but their language is supposed to be at least 1000+ years older than mine (Cyrillic alphabet)???
Don't forget that the Legends of Olympus were written by Homer 200 years after the people were telling the story. And Herodotus admits that the Greeks "borrowed certain characters from the Dacian people. In Romania there is the oldest temple in Europe, which is 8000 years old. The Temple of Partha. Where else is there something like this???.
Herodotus never spoke about Dacians . He spoke about Getae , which were living in another place and had another culture . Dacians appeared much later .
@@seaman5705 The Dacians...the most righteous and valiant among the Thracians. They go to battle without fear of death. As the great ZAMOLXES taught them.
@@seaman5705 PTOLEMEU: DACII erau inalti blonzi cu ochi albastri..foloseau agricultura ,apicultura, si erau cinstiti si drepti. Cu ei puteai sa faci afaceri doar pe Cuvant.Mai citeste documenteaza te si dupa stam de vorba. Cred ca despre SarmiseGetusa nici nu ai auzit si nici Nu stii ce a fost. Mai documenteaza te.
The Thracians are one of the oldest European peoples. They were divided into many tribes, over 80 of which are known! Some of them are the Odris, the Getae, the Medes, the Bulgars, the Bessians, the Paeons, the Triballi, the Dardani, and many others! If they were united they would have been strong, but unfortunately they fought among themselves and their enemies took advantage of that.... The Thracians were the first people to work gold. The first processed gold in the world was processed and buried with its owner who was an unknown Thracian ruler who lived in the area of the city of Varna (Bulgaria). Other incredible and unparalleled treasures are the Valchitran and Panagyur treasures. A great Thracian ruler was Teres. He managed to create a country out of nothing and become the king of that country. He is the creator and first king of the Odris kingdom, which conquered a territory almost as large as that of Bulgaria only under the rule of Teres, who fought all his life against the enemies and most likely died in battle. Another great king was Seutus the Third. He is the rightful heir to the throne, but when he was born and raised, the kingdom of Odris was conquered. Seutus leads a revolution and frees him, becoming king of his liberated homeland. He has a bronze statue of which only the head has been found. The Thracians were exceptional builders. They built many cities, monuments, temples and tombs, and in every detail they put diligence and art. Evidence of the Thracians' thirst for freedom is Spartacus. He becomes an ordinary Thracian warrior who is enslaved by the Romans. He was sentenced to death in the Arena in the city of Capua, but managed to kill several gladiators with only one sword. He then becomes an invincible gladiator. Because of his thirst for freedom and revenge, he managed to lead an army of slaves and gladiators, kill his master, free many slaves and kill many noble Romans. He does impossible things and creates a huge army that conquers cities, kills enslavers, but unfortunately is defeated by the most elite Roman troops. The main genetic heirs of the Thracians are the Bulgarians, despite the lies that the Bulgarians were "Tatars" and other similar lies devoid of any logic, created to make the Bulgarians feel sorry. Other descendants of the Thracians are the Romanians, the Serbs, the Macedonians, and the states along the Adriatic Sea.
Yes, the Bulgarians are Slavs with Turkic mix. No, the Vlachs were not descendants of the Thracians but of the Romans - that is why they spoke and still speak a Romansh language . That is why we, Romanians speak a Romansh language . Thracian languages, are mostly unknown and the Thracians of the Balkans were long time Romanized before the arrival of the Slavs and the Bolgars . Part of the Vlachs were Slavicized, but most kept their Latin based language and most of them migrated to the north of Danube were they formed Romanians by mixing with other people living there . @@almeu433
At least all Thracian tribes living north of Jirecek line and south of Danube were Romanized . It is agreed that south of Jirecek line, they were under the Greek influence . Moesi , Getae , Illyrians of south of Danube, south of Pannonia were Romanized because there was a long Roman rule on those territory - since 2nd century BC. 2nd century BC is also when the Dacians appeared in history as mercenary Getae and other people occuping lands north of Carpthians . Bessi, according to Porphyrogenetus , were still bearing this name in the 8th century , because they lived isolated . But the region was heavily colonized with other citizens of the Empire , which strengthened the Roman/Latin element of the region . Same happened in Dacia , while many "natives" from the conquered territories were enrolled in the Roman army - specially for Dacians, they were massively exterminated and deported for their aggressive and treacherous behaviour . Roman/Latin element gave birth to Vlachs after the region was invaded and settled by Slavs and Bolgars . Vlachs declared themselves , in 12 century as being descendants of Roman colonists in the Balkans . Those Vlachs moved, continuously but in small quantities , north of Danube giving birth to Romanians - after they mixed with Slavs of north Danube . Of course other populations were caught in the mix everywhere - like descendants of al kind of Turkic migrators populations , Germanic, Celtic , Sarmatians.@@almeu433
@@seaman5705All your comments are completely wrong!!! Bulgarians and Thracians are the same people. Dna studies links Bulgarians with the oldest Neolitic populations that have existed on the Balkans like Pelasgians and Thracians. This is the truth. The rest are propaganda tales from our enemies. This is Bulgarian history. I don't understand what foreigners are doing here teaching Bulgarians their own history. Don't you understand how stupid is to come and tell the people who actually live in Thrace, that they have nothing to do with those lands? The Thracians were the best warriors, do you think they would allow others to take over. Nowhere is recorded a fight between Bulgarians and Thracians because they were the SAME people. Why nobody has thought about this. Go watch a video on Bulgarian/Thracian connection. Bulgarians were the Trojans in the Trojan war. We did not come here in 681 for the first time. This is fraud. Slavs is only a language group, not a new identity. This slavic bullshit has confused many people. Bulgarian don't come from some Slavs but directly from the Thracian language, proven by archaeology. Dacians and Getae spoke Thracian as well. And the "turkic" bulgars turned out to be Thracians from Moesia, living on the other side of the Danube as free Thracians who in 681 crossed the Danube to liberate their brothers from the Romans. The Roman empire made a peace contract with Bulgaria, so we became the first country in Europe. Most of Romania is historically Bulgarian lands. Bulgarians had a parallel Scythian history but our origin is local. Stop believing German /Western propaganda. Getae and Goths are one and the same people. When Germans stole the Getae and Aryan history they invented new origin for the Bulgarians and the rest of Eastern Europe. Semitic/hamitic Ethiopians aka greeks became "cradle of European civilization". History is turned upside down. (Check "bulgar" on Encyclopedia Britannica, we have zero turkic/mongolian dna )
Modern day Bulgarians are direct descendants of Thracians,almost all of what they left us is in present day Bulgaria,especially in the valley of the kings around Kazanlak.
So what we the TURKIC PEOPLE are direct descendants of the TROJANS. Almost all of what they left us is in present day TURKIYE. Especially in the CANAKKALE region of Hisarluk.
@@islammehmeov2334 not really,because we are genetically identical to Thracians.Turks are a mix of Greeks,native Anatolians,Armenians,Balkan Slavs,Central Asian people and Middle Eastern people.Most of the culture in present day Turkey is Hellenic so i wouldnt say your case is the same
Thracians had a very old culture. Their enemies, the Greek were describing Thrax as savage, but actually the Greek were nomads who came to Europe from behind the Caucasian steps.
Part of northern Greece such as the area of Macedonia looks like today's Greece and part of the newly formed state of today's Macedonia were Thracians. Herodotus even accurately describes this great people spread over a vast area at that time. All that numerical population, which covered a considerable area, bore different regional names: Bulgarians, Macedonians, Carpi, Dacians, etc., etc., they all spoke the same language and had the same customs, but each region had its chiefs, as we find in all the peoples formed in history up to a unity of it took some time before they were united under a single head as were the Greeks in antiquity.
Only the romanians of today that live in the old teritory of Dacia speak a language Close to the Thracians the rest of the tracian teritory was conquered by white slavs that changed the language
I am thracian and my language, romanian, is thracian, my name is thracian, my house build from twigs and mud, its thracian😂. Thracian language is romanian and is the ancestor of sanscrit and of all the indoeuropean languages. Getae- romanians. Massagetae - romanian or thracians that got to spread romanian language into India.
@@mihaiilie8808 I'm refering to people in Bulgaria that say they are Thracian and again your by logic can be aid for Dacia, you can have the blood and in certain regions more but nothing retains you to Dacian language or that much of the culture that we dont even what is from them rather is wishful thinking that some tradition is that ancient . Specifically for you there were Avars, Vlachs, Cumans, Mongols, Magyars and many other on the land and you want to keep memory of the oldest for some reason and the roman heritage because both sound nice. If we should have accepted that you have as people only some ancestry of both, you can be only one, you cant be Thracian/Dacian and in the same time Roman and claim heritage from Rome. Hell even your language was 60% slavic until 19th century when you decided that you will tone down the slavic words and made the alphabet Latin based just for that reason to be more with Rome.
@@vasil.kamdzhalov In Romania we never had slavic language, other than the church. Regular people that were illiterate always spoke romanian and romanian is dacian( thracian). Because sanscrit is romanian, long before the Roman Empire, the dacians spoke this vulgar latin wich is romanian and like sanscrit. Massagetae are getae wich means vlach or dacian or getae( 3 names for the same people). We have more thracian coulture in Romania than Bulgaria but Bulgaria has the land. These thracians got out from under the Black Sea when it was flooded. I am romanian and my haplogroup is like that of Varna chief( haplogroup T). Dacians stayed more pure, they preserved the original thracian coulture, while Bulgaria mixed a lot with massagetae, turks and greeks. Your own thracologists say that romanian is the ancient thracian, the proto indoeuropean and the mother of sanscrit( thus romanian is the mother of the latin, germanic and slavic and sanscrit). Budhist monk in India know more history about europe than europeans. They say they speak romanian and also the hindu. Just google,, why there are 80 million romanian speakers in India,,. Some of the slavic words you have are not slavic but thracian( the ones found in romanian also) but you got a lot of slavic from the massagetae.
@@mihaiilie8808 I will try to be friendly and try to read what you offered to google but there is so much crazy claims and reminds me of a lot of people that too much stay on Facebook or something and to those people best recommendation is to go outside for a bit and shake their heads from only the crazy articles because to look to crazy to take seriously. Sanskrit and all, connecting everything like this and people is insane is most cases and doesnt work when given proper documentation. The problem with anceint history is there are a lot of holes and people write whatever they like and say "Historians have proven".
@@raduandreisebastian3602 slavic was avvepted since Bulgaria was an empire and in order for an empire to work it centralises. Thracians and turks had to adopt slavic since romania and serbia were part pf the empire and had the biggest populations. Bulgaria is 6.5 million people, Romania is 19 mil. Serbia would be above 10 mil if not for ww1 Who is slavic you think ?
Yes, but do you know where the Thracians originated from? According to the most ancient historical account, Thrace (Trausi) was settled originally by Tiras, grandson of Noah. The more you know.
"Throughout history, the wandering pastoral tribes of the Russian Steppes have descended on the seats of civilization in Europe and the Middle East. They have been called variously Scythians, Thracians, Cimmerians (and Kurgan Culture), Sarmatians, Cumans, Alans, Huns, Tatars, Turks, Slavs, Bulgars and Goths... " Thracians are the same as Bulgars who became Scythians. The Scythians are modern day Slavs. Bulgars are not turkic. Check Encyclopedia Brittanica. Debate should be solved. All this is about the Bulgarians.
Its the oposite, the tracians civilised the steppe people. You have the romanian getae( thracians) and then you have the massagetae that are steppe people, basically and literally, steppe romanians, that got tonspread romanian language in India. Sanscrit is romanian language, thracian. The R1b steppe russians( yamnaya) , became celts and switched from burial to incineration and moved to west europe. Just like Bulgaria civilised the slavs more recently, it was the same back then, with the thracians and the steppe people.
@@mihaiilie8808 The Thracians spoke old Bulgarian, Sanskrit is not close to Romanian but Bulgarian. Romanian is latinized Bulgarian. To put it shortly. I recommend a youtube channel about Bulgarian history. It is by Pavel Serafimov. He has written books as well. He tells the real Thracian history, not the propaganda version we know.
@@ds-on4sm San scrit means sfanta scriptura, the script of the saints. How do you say sanscrit in bulgarian? The old thracian language that latin and evey other indoeuropean language evolved is romanian. Sanscrit is romanian and thats what indian sanscrit speakers say. Thracians from Bulgaria spoke romanian language.
@@ds-on4sm The massagetae spoke romanian like the gets from Romania. They took romanian language in India. There are some slavic words in romanian that are indeed thracian but thracian was like romanian, latin like, slavic like and even germanic like, because all indoeuropean languages evolved from Thracian( Romanian).
@@mihaiilie8808 Sanskrit / Samskrit in Bulgarian means a hidden or secret language. The Vedas were memorized and not written because knowledge was sacred. Skrit means Hidden in modern Bulgarian. The same word we use today. Romanian is a language based on Thracian (Bulgarian)but latinized since the 12 century. We have Bulgarian names like Kardam in the Indian Mahabharata.
Very low quality too. When we were taken to visit the archaeological museum in Varna in Communist times the understanding was that there was this unknown and foreign people that lived in Varna before the Slavs. To me this is comic that Bulgarians come on line to say that they are Thracian and that with such an attitude.
Thracians are not Greeks! Just wanted to be clear! Greeks came thousands of years later from North Africa! Greeks have stolen the Thracian history and named it by themselves as well as the Thracian gods! They never understood what are the real Thracian gods and what is the purpose of every Thracian ritual
that is very interesting. the Hungarians claim the Romanians came from the south, the Bulgarians claim the Greeks came from south as well, from Northen Africa. I guess they're trying to hide their ancestors had stolen land inhabited by orthers.
While it's true Thracians are not Greeks and their culture is their own, the Thracians are basically an extinct people. Also, genetic and archeological evidence points to Greeks (Mycenaeans) coming from Anatolia, likely descendants of the Sintashta culture. Keep in mind Greece is full of different tribes and did not become one people until after the classical age.
The Greeks called themselves the Thracians - barbarians! To Bulgarians - too! To Serbs and Romanians - too! To all who they did not wear african dresses! This is documented from the ancient Thracian and Greek chroniclers. The Greeks have nothing with the Thracians!
@@apmikalogran there were not greeks, greeks have tracian in but + hellenic, not the opposite, there were no greeks at this time, example 6k years ago or more, it was tracian and pelasgians and others, greeks came way later from one of the tribes called pelasgians, there were cities and civilization way before, like artefacts and reasures can prove it, the balkan people came from the same ancestors, just different tribes
@@wankawanka3053 no, because now with researches of different ancient chronics, + DNA samples of 2 big projects with near 1000 of people, and few smaller researches of today people and samples of people lived on the lend of Bulgaria and around the Balkans proves that ours ancestors(the Bulgarians) were living on that land before the Ice Age, during the Flood on black sea and later mix with the new comers, which were called Thracians, ofc that not only about us, its about the whole Balkans and even more, because they were split more than just on the Balkans. The researches of samples show that we have around 80 and evem over 80% some of us as the people here even before 8000 years ago, which is proving the researches of the different Ancient Chronics as well, even in Greece in big part the people living there have same DNA as the today Macedonians, big part of them, and Romanians with the Bulgarians. Some people in Greece on the upper part have around 90% same DNA, because there were living people from the today Bulgarians, but the others around 75-78% i mean the real Greeks(ofc we speak here for Country as denes, ofc as borders, who is born there is Greek, even if is with less genes), because we have part of the same ancestors, i speak the ancestors lived on the land before more than 5000 and 8000 years, before it become even Ancient Greece, before the mix, but still the DNA of today Macedonians and Romanians is higher % similar with the Bulgarians, because were less mixed during that Thousands of years, so with them we still have near 85-90% same DNA, and 75 to over 80% same as that Ancient people, but you have a less, you cam make an DNA test as well and you will see, last 10 years were a lot of researches and big projects, there were some on the previous centuries as well, but now can be prove how much we have been brain washed about ours genes and Ancient History, ofc that's not only ours 4 countries, i just speak for the ones i know more with numbers and from ancient and today writings. Bulgarians have nothing with Slavs, Turks, or Huns or anything else, its part of the most Ancient people on the Balkans as the genes shows, no Turk, Slavs or any other mix in us,, there 20% are from the migrations and mixing just with new comers and some were migrating and coming back after time, you have even less genes from that people lived 8000years ago here to the today times, it doesn't make you different ofc, but you can't take the History of few countries here around only for your self, and with today technology and many different ancient sources can be prove today. Some people wanted to be greater, or to win the new histories about they countries, but today that lies can be prove already, but the truth is uncomfortable for them, the Balkans History were rewritten the last century, but before that the people were knowing they origins, that's political or other reasons lies comes for the comfort of some people later
True lol yeah I didn’t realise that while reading through but that’s a good point and I’m sure they just decided to translate it from Greek gods to “Roman” for whatever reason
I found one paper published in Nature-Scientific Reports from 2019: "Ancient human mitochondrial genomes from Bronze Age Bulgaria: new insights into the genetic history of Thracians." In the results on page 6 it is said: "Along the first component (sPC1) the ancient Thracians are closely related with Central-East European populations, while along the second component (sPC2) our samples show higher resemblance with present-day Mediterranean groups." And in the discussion on page 7: "In accordance with their geographical location, Thracians show a genetic composition clearly intermediate between East Europe and Mediterranean, that suggests multiple admixture events and population movements occurred across what is now the modern day Bulgaria. " So, the contribution of East and Central European genetic pools is given by the 1st principal component (which, by the way, explains most of the data variance). This is in a full accordance with the linguistic theory of Mario Alinei and Collin Renfrew that Thracians were proto-Balto-Slavic speakers.
Read again - the study shows NOTHING but a mixture of people , Central-East Europeans with Mediterraneans - meaning Antolian and Levant like the Greeks , Turks etc . The Baltic split happened way before Slavs and Bolgars aperead on the scene . And I think you are talking about Bulgarians , not Thracians .If you are talking about Bulgarians , they are Slavic since after 6 century, with earlier Roman colonists and Near East people , some Slavicized Thracians and other Balkanic populations Last genetic (2023) study concludes that all Balkanic populations carry genes brought by the Slavs (6-9th century BC) in proportion of 30-60% . And much of remaining genes were brought by Roman colonists from all over the world , but mostly from Aantolia, Levant and Mediteranean space .
@@TheGarrymoore Exactly - the study does not say anywhere that Bulgarians descend from Thrakians . The ending phrase , about the linguist Alinei , is your conclusion , or a Bulgarian one ? Because is a mystification . Genetic make-up has nothing to do with the language spoken by a group of humans . There is no evidence that Thracians spoke a Balto-Slavic language . From the little we know about this language , is far from being a Slavic one. But Bulgarian is . You have to understand that Thracians and proto Balto-Slavic people split maybe 5000 years ago in the steppe . It is rather possible that Balto-Slavic languages formed in the area where those people migrated , and they never spoke the same language with the Thrakians .
@@seaman-vy7mz Read Alinei yourself: Don't take my word. Google: Interdisciplinary and linguistic evidence for Palaeolithic continuity of Indo-European, Uralic and Altaic populations in Eurasia, with an excursus on Slavic ethnogenesis, "Quaderni di Semantica" 24, 2003, Read particularly: 32-37.
Thrace (Modern Greek: Θράκη Thráki) or Thraike in Greek mythology, was the eponymous heroine and sorceress of Thrace. She was the daughter of Oceanus and Parthenope, and sister of Europa. The word Thrace, from ancient Greek Thrake (Θρᾴκη), referred originally to the Thracians (ancient Greek Thrakes Θρᾷκες), an ancient people inhabiting Southeast Europe. Ancient Greek mythology provides the Thracians with a mythical ancestor Thrax, the son of the war-god Ares, who was said to reside in Thrace. In Greece people also use the word "Thraka" (Greek, θρακα) for a pile of burning coals, usually for grilling food, but in their ritual in many villages "Anastenaria" (Greek, Αναστεναρια) they walk barefood on burning coals, maybe the foreigners and historians who account them for the first time they give that name because of the many thraces (θρακες) in their land. In Thracian religion the main gods are Dionysus later Orpheus and evolved in Byzantine and modern times to Christianity. Most accounts say Dionysus was born in Thrace, traveled abroad, and arrived in Greece as a foreigner. His attribute of "foreignness" as an arriving outsider-god may be inherent and essential to his cults, as he is a god of epiphany, sometimes called "the god who comes" One of the main instruments of Thrace is askaulos bagpipe askos+aulos bag+pipe "the bag of dionysus" today known as gaida and is made by goat skin, in the ancient ceremonies they sacrifice many goats/lambs thats why one of the epithet of dionysus is Aegobolus Αἰγοβόλος ("goat-shooter"), like christianity later they believe that the flesh (now bread) of the goat is the body of god and the wine is hιs blood, in ceremonies they use music to achieve ecstasy, one of the rituals that survived today is the Anastenaria people sacrifice a goat possesed by a spirit and dancing barefoot on fire, also in every spring in all over Greece in Easter to celebrate the ressurection of Christ/Dionysus is to cook and eating hundreds of goats/lambs. "In Orphic legend, Dionysus under the name Zagreus "hunter who catches living animals" was the son of Zeus by his daughter Persephone. At the direction of Hera, the infant Zagreus/Dionysus was torn to pieces, cooked, and eaten by the evil Titans. But his heart was saved by Athena, and he (now Dionysus) was resurrected by Zeus through Semele. Zeus struck the Titans with lightning, and they were consumed by fire. From their ashes came the first humans, who thus possessed both the evil nature of the Titans and the divine nature of the gods"
If You Don't Know...In the 4th century before Hritos, the Great King Burebista, united the 200 tribes that SPOKE THE SAME LANGUAGE...NOT others...Achilles the Pelasgian, from the mouths of the Danube who lived in the island surrounded by the forest that his name was Letuce, now Letea forest, Spartacus who, during the Last King Dac Decebal, participated in his last battles. Do not forget that Romania is surrounded by the oldest cultures in Europe and perhaps in the world. Ex. in the Northeast we have the Cucuteni culture, in the Southeast the Hamangia culture and in the Southwest the Vincas Turda culture. So by exemplary logic, if all these cultures are on the territory of Romania, Who are we???. Dacia was made up of: Getae, Dacians and Thracians. The Getae were in the West, the Dacians in the North and the Thracians in the South, beyond the Danube. That is why many of the momentous temples of the Geto Thracian Dacian kings are located in the territories of today's Bulgaria or through a part of Serbia. The Romanian language has nothing to do with any other language. The Romanian language is the Primordial language. And for those who still do not know or have not studied, the Latin language is a surrogate language, of the ancient Romanian language. As the father of history, Herodotus, writes..about the Dacians. The Dacians are the most righteous and fearless of the Thracians. They go to battle without fear of death, because that's what their Great Zamolxes taught them. If they were a united people, no one would ever be defeated.
The guy on the video: Using actual sources People in the comments: My great grandpa told me that the Greeks came from Australia and made their alphabet in 2012. It has to be true
Proud to be a Bulgarian knowing that my ancestors were such strong warriors. It's high time that history acknowledges the real contribution of Slavic people which originated from the Thracians to the world history and stops promoting false greek propaganda. The Troyan war for example was Thracian and greeks merely described it, but didn't even participate in it.
Bulgarians has got nothing to do with the ancient Thracians lol. You came from Asian and were known as the Bulgars the Greeks fought you in numerous battles and were considered invaders of the Balkans and not natives.
Bulgarians have this false misconception that they come from the Ancient Thracians for some weird reason. I will not start guessing why they do that, but Bulgarians are 100% Slavs (It is proven in all serious academic levels), they come from North East Europe, they made a nice medieval empire, they had great kings and rich history and you should focus on that, but one thing is certain Bulgarians have nothing to do with Thracians.
@@dlteodorian Wow. You seem to know it all I am a Bulgarian who literally lives in Thrace. My DNA is predominantly Thracian and Slavic. So I am not a descendant of Thracians? What most of you try to avoid is the reality of Bulgarian nationality. Bulgarians are not a homogenous group of single origin. Our nation was created by the nomadic people from the steps and we carry their name. But they are merely a fraction of all people who lived and left their mark on us. We have Slavs, Thracians, Cuman, Vlach, Greek, Turk, and many other mixes in our blood. So who are you exactly to tell me I am not a descendant of those people?
Thanks to Ancient Greeks for the information they gave us about ancient peoples,and for the culture they spread in Thrace with their colonies and with their royal houses.
Thanks to your "ancient" greeks the history of Europe is distorted!! You can thank them for this, not culture. What could Ethiopian slaves of the Thracians give them? Lies, hate, deception, etc. What culture did the Thracians need from others when they civilized the greeks and many other people! The people who spoke the oldest IE language, had the oldest IE religion, goldsmithing, writing, art and state building... The Hellens were just one Thracian tribe. Read some books on this before you trust the greek propaganda.
Modern day Bulgarians have the highest percent of native Balkan/Thracian DNA (49%) more than any other Balkan nation and + in Bulgaria there's alot of preserved Thracian traditions such as Kukeri, Martenitsa, Survakari, Nestinarstvo and others.
I'm coping so hard.I made all those things up. Go check them out. Also if you think the ancestors of Bulgarians are only the Bulgars, you're braindead. @@Michael_the_Drunkard
Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups. Both Greeks and Ethiopians share quasi-specific DRB1 alleles, such as *0305, *0307, *0411, *0413, *0416, *0417, *0420, *1110, *1112, *1304 and *1310. Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group and finally Greeks cluster with Ethiopians/sub-Saharans in both neighbour joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses. The time period when these relationships might have occurred was ancient but uncertain and might be related to the displacement of Egyptian-Ethiopian people living in pharaonic Egypt. I counted many lies and also contradictions in the comment below. The greeks called the thracians 'barbarian' or foreigners in the original meaning of the word, which makes us two distinct people.
Greeks have no sub saharian ancestry Slavs created all this propaganda against greeks to claim thrace and Macedonia regions Everyone knows your fairytales... even if modern greeks indeed were black That will never made you Macedonian or Thracian
@@chrysamoss1414 So how can you claim the culture and lands of Europeans when you admit you are black people? Everybody who reads here can see that you are contradicting yourself and just lying. This is not about color or race but a prove that genetically you are not related to us. And we've been here for at least 8000 years. The white European greeks are not ethnically greek. So you need to stop robbing our culture and identity. Go read "Black Athena" . Thats your origin.
@@ds-on4sm i said greeks have not sub saharian ancestry learn to read thats a lie created mostly from balkanish uneducated like you so your people claim Greek lands and history Second greeks were always here Every modern greek has more than 20% Mycenaean ancestry This is proven by geneticists You can read articles and results of the research in since org and harvard university. Also greeks have Caucasian ancestry as well never sub saharian our language culture, ancient pagan religion, blood is ido European Greeks stayed in their territory 4k years Bulgarians came to the region and slavs from central Europe this lands wasn't theirs they are immigrants mix with the locals Also black athena is a trash book created by afrocentric movement such as claim Cleopatra was black all historians archeologist Made fun of
@@ds-on4sm there is nothing yours to begin with you have Thracian ancestry little more than the rest of balkans cos your ancestors immigrated where the Thracians lived.
Thracians and Hellenics were very different and so are we and Southern Greeks. Those DNA tests compare your DNA to that of people from different regions, they don't analyse population genetics. Summary: it's a scam.
You are a gypsy, but not a Bulgarian! The Pelasgians, Lelegs, Carians, Moesians, Getae, Illyrians and 200 other tribes with the exonym Thracians from the African Greeks Danaus, have been in the Balkans from 10,000 years, and the Greeks - Africans have been from 3,000 years! 😉
As thracian from Bulgaria iam grsteful that we kept our ancient genes till such point even more than hslf od bulgarian genetics come feom thracians but iam from south so its more
Thracians and Greeks are different nations. Greeks came to Balkans 1900BC when the Thracians had already a very advanced civilization 4000 years earlier.
First greeks came in 3200bc in balkans and there was no organized civilization before 5000 bc my friend. The egyptian civilizatio was the first in 4000bc.
Eh, these stuff in comments... Yes, Thracians with 60% probality weren’t Greeks, but they on 99,99997% weren’t Slavs too, so chill my bulgarian and serbian bros(hi from Slovakia btw)
Yup and Bulgaria is the least "Slav" country geneticwise, linguisticwise and culturally. Only 15-18 % slav genes are found in modern day Bulgaria. Put one Bulgarian among 10 dudes from Poland or Chechia and I can tell you which one is the Bulgarian fella.I worked and lived 3 years with Poles and I can tell you they look waaaaaay different than Bulgarians. Even culturally and linguistically we are way different. Bulgaria and Macedonia are the only countries where the language is analytical and not synthetic like the rest of Slav language. Richness of verb tenses and lack of grammar cases are huge differences. All the best my slovac brother.
Thracian are today minority living in Bulgaria iknow they are not grece from North Africa or illiryans Albanians neither slavs different race with own culture
@roberto lang you have a lot to read my friend 😀 have you ever heard of Herodotus? The father of history? I suggest you make you due diligence before you speak. 😉
@roberto lang you seem very bitter 😆 but still you are entitled to believe whatever you want 🤷🏽♂️ I don’t even read your comments where you try to convince yourself that you are right
Thracians are bulgars we have hisotry before greece they came to africa ans still thracian history even took our gods us there but diffrent name just to know that
How can you be so illeterate, Bulgars as Avasoslaves came to HELLENIC THRACE some 1200 years ago, but you find in Bulgarian escavations especially on Black Sea Coast all Greek cities of 5000 years ago. ΒULGARIANS ARE NOT EVEN EUROPEANS THEY CAME FROM STEPPES OF ASIA NAMED VULGAR, THRACIANS IS THE MOST ANCIENT HELLENES, AND THE HELLENIC CIVILIZATION BEGINS IN THRACE, THIS IS WHY ALL YOUR ARCHAELOGICAL MONUMENTS IN BULGARIA ARE IN HELLENIC, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE OF THRACIANS, ALL THRACIAN HISTORIANS AND PHILOSOPHERS WROTE IN ANCIENT GREEK, AL TRHACIAN KINGS ARE WITH HELLENIC NAMES. YOU SAY STUPID JEWISH COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA BUT ALL EVIDENCES ARE AGAINST YOU. THE RELIGION OF THRACIANS WAS THE EXACT SAME OF THE REST OF GREEKS. YOU ARE SO REDICULOUS YOU EXCIBIT GREEK GODS AND GODDESESS MONUMENTS AND YOU SAY THESE ARE "THRACIA GODS" ZEUS ATHENA APOLLO YOU NAME THEM AS THRACIAN GODS, OF COURSE THEY ARE THRACIAN AS GREEK GODS. SO CULTURALLY, HISTORICALLY, ARCHAELOGICALLY, LINGUISTICALLY, ARCHITECTURALLY, AND ANY OTHER TRUE SCIENCE YOU TAKE , THRACE EVEN THE NAME IS HELLENIC ΘΡΑΚΗ YOU ARE MONGOL ASIAN DO NOT KNOW WHAT TRHAX MEANS YOU JUST COPY FROM THE LETTERS WE GAVE YOU AND AS A MONKEY YOU SAY TRAKIA BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS, SO LEARN SOMETHING FROM ME TODAY, THRAX MEANS THE RELIGIOUS PERSON BECAUSE THE WORD ΘΡΑΚΗ ΘΡΑΞ ΘΡΗΣΚΕΙΑ IS A VERY ANCIENT WORD WHICH MEANS RELIGION. AND THIS IS WHAT S HAPPENING IN THRACE THE FIRST RELIGION OF THE HELLENIC WHITE PEOPLE RACE IS CREATED. THIS IS ONE MORE EVIDENCE THAT THRACE IS FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS HELLAS. BULGARIA OCCYPY NORTHERN THRACE FOR THE LAST 1200 OF THEM
The Thracians were dressed people unlike the Greeks in XIII century BCE! Odysseus and Diomedes (both undressed) stealing the horses of Thracian king Rhesus (fully dressed) they have just killed. Painting of the Apulian red-figured situla of the master Lycurgus, about 360 BC. National Museum of Archaeology, Naples. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rhesos_MNA_Naples.jpg
@@alexandrosonassis3436 This is complete nonsense. It's laughably moronic. Tens of thousands of years? When do you think Phillipopolis was established, in the last ice age? How are dimwits like you even alive?
This about Gods worship is A OURE NONSENSE. Thracian tribes worshiped the god Sabadius or Sabatius, the God of victory, symbolised by three fingers (thumb, index and middle) raised high, as the three Thracian ritual spears. Common and still used national symbol with the Serbian people (you especially hate them by that).
The name GREECE is coming from Albanian Language and that mean GRA EC = GRA ECIN or in English Women Walkin . 100% ALBANIAN archaic and Albanian modern to day.🇦🇱👋🙏🇦🇱👋
Bruh 🤣 you Albanians are very funny literally the word greece comes from freaking latin but it was already the name of a tribe named greeks stop embarrassing yourself
The name of the Danaus-Greeks comes from the priestly tribe of the Pelasgians - (S)eli (inhabited-(С)ели - Σελι)! 😉 The priestly tribe in the temple of Zeus Pelasgian - Dodonа. 😄 The Danaus-Greeks of Ethiopia steal the Thracian-Pelasgians name ,Seli" (Inhabitants - who maintain the temple of Zeus Pelasgian). 😊 Zeus - Δίας, means day (Ден). 😉 Thracian is an exonym from Danaus! The real name is Arian from Aria (the old name of Thrace). That is, the god Ari (Ares) from Aria (Thrace) - born! Father of the Amazons, Getae, Cimmerians (Scythians), Humes (Massagetes - Moesians and Getae). 😗
@@BringBackCyrillicBGthe Getae/Dacians were a Thracian people north of the Danube. The slavic migration was everywhere including Bulgaria, it was not more in the Carpathians. The Slavs settled in the lower lands
@@raulpetrascu2696 The slavs settled in Romania crnturies before even Bulgaria got to the balkans and carpaths. If they didnt Bulgaria wouldnt speak slavic Im the bulgarisn empire there were thracians slavs and turkics Turks were on the black sea coast, thracians were on modern day Bulgaria and slavs in Romania and Serbia and the other territories were part gf the empire
@@BringBackCyrillicBG what the fuck are you talking about? Slavs settled in Bulgaria and Wallachia regions not the Carpathians, that's why modern Bulgarians speak Slavic. I don't even know what weird shit you're saying. Bulgaria was a slavicized region before even the Bulgars came (they were not calling themselves Thracian anymore), in most of Romania the Slavs there were assimilated by the local population because there weren't as many as in the places that are today Slavic countries. You realise Bulgaria is a slavic country and Romania is not right? You're making it sound like Romania was slavic first and made Bulgaria slavic and then unslaviced itself lol wtf
you are talking nonsense. How did the Slavs stay in Romania the first time?...Bulgarians speak Slav...what are you talking about...Romanians have nothing to do with the Slavs...we are the ancestors of the powerful Geto-Dacians who are the same race as the Thracians. Have you heard of Decebal or Burebista?
World first cultures Lepenski vir, Starcevo, Vinca culture today Serbia. World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010) Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together. Harald Harman about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world. Vinca Iron production 1400 BC. In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words. Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan, Wendi, Illiyrians, Macedonians, Dardanians (Original Troy is here, not in Turkey Homer wrote sea is freezing in the winter-Panonian sea), Moesians, Dacians, Tracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians. Tribes spread in all directions all over Europe and Asia ……. Wild Greeks arived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgariens from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people. 18 Roman emperors were born in Serbia because of Etruscan connection. After Trojan war many groups of people left Troy in all directions to middle Europe, northern Europe to Britain and Scandinavia, south to Anatolia.One group under Aeneas sat sail with 22 ships and about 3400 followers and reach Italy-Etruscans. Proto serbian language is older than Sanskrit, Greek, Latin or all western Europian languages. Plato confirms in his work The Dialogues of Plato-Cratylus the Greeks used Pelasgian (Proto Serbian) to develop their own language.
romanians are not thracians no matter how bad they wanted to be, they are mix between pechenegs, cumans, rusins, bulgarians, hungarians, etc. new born nation.
A stupidity ! See genetics, culture and language of Romanians. Can tell for Bulgars. Bulgars has nomadic peoples, a mixture of Turks and Slavs comes to the Thracica area.
the Thracians had the same language as the Dacians (Romanians), so today's Bulgarians are... have you heard of the Volga???? today we find Thracians all over the Balkan peninsula and especially in Romania ... and there are also some Thracians in Greece, North Macedonia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Albania, Croatia who speak a dialect of the Romanian-Geto-Dacian-Vulgar Latin language
Especially in Romania. Are you joking? The biggest thracian treasures were found in the valley of roses and thracian kings in Bulgaria. More than 50 of 80 thracian tribes lived in the contemporary borders of Bulgaria. Seutopolis - the capital of the only Thracian kingdom is located under Koprinka Dam again in Bulgaria. Thracian were all over the Balkans but modern day Bulgaria is the only country you can say Thracian tribes cover 100% of its territory, and Thracians lives only in Wallachia, which you know covers southern Romania only.
@@M.Georgiev8527 Slavs do not speak the Romanian language, but Thracians do speak the same language as the Dacian ghettos, and today's Bulgaria are Slavs (Volga Bulgarians). When there were Thracians there was no trace of Slavs in this world, they appeared about 1000-1500 years after the Thracians
The Thracian language is proto Bulgarian and in the Balto Slavic language group, not latin. Romanian is vulgar latin and therefore has nothing to do with Thracian. Bulgarians and Thracians are the same people. We have always spoken Thracian, today in modern form and the bulgars in the Steppe were of Thracian origin, therefore spoke the same language. This slavic and turkic nonsense is just lies nobody in their right mind believes anymore. The Thracians spoke Bulgarian. Colin Renfrew, a respected archaeologists says that in his book "Archaeology and language" "No doubt they did indeed speak a Thracian language akin to that in what is now Bulgaria, whose origins were suggested earlier." The bulgars were therefore not turks. This is old propaganda. See an update on them on Encyclopedia Britanica: Although many scholars, including linguists, had posited that the Bulgars were derived from a Turkic tribe of Central Asia (perhaps with Iranian elements), modern genetic research points to an affiliation with western Eurasian and European populations. Slavs are only a language group, not a new identity.
Ia-o usor cu limba . Nu poti sa demostrezi ca Dacii vorbeau limba Tracilor .Nimeni nu poate , pt ca limba Dacilor nu se cunoaste iar din limba tracilor , au rams 4 inscriptii . Deocamdata se crede ca Tracii nu vorbeau aceeasi limba in toate triburile , iar dacii nici atat . Uita propaganda noastra nationalist-comunista , ca te invata numai prostii .
Thracia was known like a country of horse-man😅😅😊inhabitants are half horse and halfhumans with a trumpet.They are living i territ ory of 3 country :Romania nowday,Bulgarien and Ilirya till to pannonia fields.They are pelasgs fisherman,hunters and agricultureman,from ionic,and dorian greeks arrival in Europe.They build city and villages everywhere.And are great man and very fast people according legend.😊Hercules cannot win against thracians and was taked prisonier and chained to works of Hercules,maybe in Rhodopi mounts.😊😊😊
@@АнтонПавлов-ц4з Poate sunt trei cuvinte . Noi Românii avem cuvinte care atestă vechimea noastră în aceste teritorii.! Voi a-ți învățat limba cuceritorului. V-ați trădat pe voi și neamul Tracic.!
There's no such thing. There's Hellas and there's Thrace. Nothing in common. Not linguistically, not culturally nor genetically. Greeks the only balkans with major african genetic influence.
GREECE=GRAECIA >>>>> Albanian GRA=ECI in English WOMEN WALKING , because before Christ on the War betwin Spartans and Athineus many many womens remain without their hausbands,,,, (Hystoriclly this is happened) And the Name GRAECI was named by the Yliriand (to day Albania) BYE BYE adherfia Stin GRAECIA👋🇦🇱🙏🇦🇱👋
@@robertomeraj8898 A) What is a croche? B) The "albanian" flag is a straight up copy of the Byzantine flag. Do you really feel proud for that? 😂 C) The Greek language has a written record of more than 3400 years. How old is the oldest albanian text? Funny albanians trying to steal History to compensate for the fact that you have none of your own. Keep entertaining us.
@@greekmetalhead1805 Why the Toscana is called the centre of Italy with capital Fiorence ?,,, I waiting a responde from you in this question,,, this is too importante for your education.👋
@@docdoc7691 Serbs (Triballi) are Thracians. This is proven by many old historians and chroniclers. Also, genetics proves that Serbs are of Dinaric origin (haplogroups: I2a1, Q1a, E-V13). Bulgarians are not Thracians. Bulgarians are of Tatar origin (Proto- Bulgarians, Proto-Bulgari). Today's Bulgarians in western Bulgaria are Bulgarianized Serbs - Šopi (Triballi).
@@lepapriroda9807 of course serbians like to claim all history as theirs, just remember ur whole alphabet and identity is from bulgarians who are the first slavs in balkans and who invented cyrilics. serbian today is 80% turkish so wonder who is really tatar here gypsy 😂 😂 u r gypsy mixed with turk and the identity is known as serbian today learn history stop with propaganda
@@docdoc7691 Typical propaganda, notorious lies, racism, Serbophobia and pseudo-history. Bulgarians have Turkish genes and are gypsies.Tatar Bulgarians, don't cry. 😂 By the way, I am a professor of history and graduated from the University of Serbona.
More of a fairy tale than history , with the well known exagerations of Herodotus . Thracians were neither so many , neither so strong - history proves it .
Hahahahha good joke man. You have more african genes than Northern African people. Fat , hairy, curly people have nothing to do with Thrace. The biggest thracian treasures were foung in the Valley of the Thracian kings in Bulgaria. The capital of Odryssian kingdom lies under Koprinka dam near city of Kazanlak. So dream on you african fella.
@@Ikaros1994you are the occupier this land was ours since the time of the first Bulgarian Empire stop being so selfish the world does not revovle around you greeks!
Thraki, the daughter of Okeanos and Parthenopi. No other Greek tribe has give some much to Greek civilisation. With Orfeas, music, poetry and the mysteries. Eymolpos created the mysteries of Eleysina. They gave the rest of the Greeks Dionysus and Ares. They spoke Greek, competed in the Olympic Games (you had to prove your Greek bloodline in order to compete), had Greek names, eveything about them is Greek. They always took part in the biggest events of Greek history. Famous Greeks were from Thrace, as Thucydides, Diomidis, Dimokritos, Tegyrios, Poltis, Thamyris etc. It’s ridiculous, illogical, anti Hellenic and crazy to say that they weren’t Greeks. It’s like saying that Macedonians aren’t or the Pelopponesians. Everyone considered them part of the one and only Greek race. There is literally no proof that they weren’t Greeks. Only endless proof that they are and forever will be Greeks. In modern days for political and anti Hellenic reasons they are presented as non Greeks with no proof at all, only empty and unscientific words. No logic, out of reality. Bulgarians are occupying Greek land. The majority of Bulgarians are genetically Greeks but have lost their identity and are being brainwashed to believe they are Slavs. They portray Thracians as non Greeks for their own benefit. Thrace will forever be part of Greece, Thracians will forever be Greeks, no matter the systemic lies, truth won’t change.
You don't even manage to pronounce the name of our Gods correct😅 Exactly, famous "greeks" were from Thrace, means they were Thracians, not greeks. You just fooled the world they were greek. Greeks arrived first in bronse age. You inherited everything from the Thracians. We are sick of you stealing our identity. You fall into the trap of your own fabricated history, admitting that the Thracians gave you indeed everything😊 Thracians are and always be Bulgarians by dna.
The etymology of the name “Thracians” is related to the name of one of the numerous tribes - the Travcians. Later the Greeks used “Thracians” to denote wild, uneducated, barbarian people. The Thracians built such an image of themselves because of the endless wars they waged among the different tribes and also with their neighbours. The Thracians were skillful warriors and for that reason they were highly sought after mercenaries. Homer provides the first written account of the Thracians in “The Iliad” where they are depicted as powerful soldiers fighting on the side of Troy. The ancient historian Herodot describes the Thracians as the most populous people along with the Indians and claims that if not for their constant fighting, the Thracians would be invincible when united. Here you can see greeks are NOT Thracians!
When we had an advanced civilisation you were still deep in Afrika living like simple nomads. This is the thank you for giving you everything, you ungrateful people! You pretend you are us, it's called theft of identity. It should have been ancient Bulgaria and Thrace, not ancient greece. Now people can see the truth. You force me to say it out loud because of your arrogance and shameless lies!
No arguments, no evidence, no debunks, as it is logical you butthurt barbarian. Thracians are 100% Greeks and Greeks ONLY. No matter the lies, truth won’t change. I know it hurts because you have nothing and you keep stealing. All the proof and logic shows that they are Greeks. The same way as the peloponnesians or the Macedonians are Greeks. Keep your head down.
@@Ikaros1994Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups. Both Greeks and Ethiopians share quasi-specific DRB1 alleles, such as *0305, *0307, *0411, *0413, *0416, *0417, *0420, *1110, *1112, *1304 and *1310. Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group and finally Greeks cluster with Ethiopians/sub-Saharans in both neighbour joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses. The time period when these relationships might have occurred was ancient but uncertain and might be related to the displacement of Egyptian-Ethiopian people living in pharaonic Egypt. . So you still claim our culture? You are delusional. You can't be European and African at the same time. Greek is spoken only in Greece. The Thracians never let you come further into our lands than the islands! You whitewashed your origin by stealing the Thracian civilisation and calling it "greek". If you are a white person in Greece, you are not greek but Bulgarian or Macedonian by dna. End of story.
As a Thracian I have to say that you did a very good job. Your approach was very good. Keep like that.
Thank you bro! It means a lot coming from a true Thracian! Cheers 😁
Φίλε! Ερώτηση. είσαι Έλληνας? πώς προεκυψε αυτο το επίθετο? σε ρωτάω γιατί τσακώνομαι προσπαθώντας να αποδείξω την ελληνικότητα της θράκης.
@@atreast.4331 Έλληνας είμαι. Κομμένο είναι εδώ το επίθετο. Τον ίδιο αγώνα με εσένα προσπαθώ.
Ωραίος ρε φίλε. Έχεις υπόψη κάποιο βιβλίο να μού προτείνεις σχετικά με την ιστορία των αρχαίων Θράκων ?
@@atreast.4331 Δυστυχώς φίλε. Δύσκολα βρίσκεις. Και αν βρεις δεν ξέρω κατά πόσο αξιόπιστα είναι. Βασικές μας πηγές είναι οι αρχαίοι Έλληνες ιστοριογραφοι, φιλόσοφοι και όποιοι άλλοι έκαναν παρόμοια καταγραφή. Σου προτείνω πάντως τη σελίδες καστροπολιτες Διδυμοτειχου. Έχουν και Facebook και TH-cam. Ανεβάζουν πολύ συχνά πράγματα στο Facebook.
As a Thracian from the Rhodopi region i really enjoyed this video. Thank you for sharing
2 Excellent books on Thracians i can recommend.
Chris Webber
The Gods if Battle: The Thracians at war 1500BC - AD 150
Also
the thracians 700 bc-ad 46
Thank you 😊 I really appreciate the book recommendations, will definitely check them out! 🙏
@robertolang9684 Google "The Inscription Nr. 6858 from Kjolmen (Bulgaria)". They where always Slavic.
@@Svarog187 This inscription could be Thracian as well.
@@Svarog187 Bulgaria has nothing to do with slavs genrtically and it id on thrscian öand that was home to everyone else but slavs.
Slavs lived only in north and only few tribes while it was thragian homr for crnturies
Bulgaria and Thracia forever one !!!
Herodotus say than Thrachians are NOT greeks
Herodotus says that they weren’t united
in polis city state
so they are undeveloped
Greeks used to be in city states except Thracians
which they didn’t unite in polis
so they stayed in barbaric culture compared to the rest of the Greeks
Exactly. Gaelic, Celts and Illyrians come from Thracians. Definitely not Greeks
@@dikshachettri1037
It just happens ant tbey all have greek names and come from greek myths
Propably they come from outerspace
@@apmikalogran I have an Indian name. I’m not even close to Indian. Also there are loads of Simons in India wander I’d they’re Jews and white people. There’s nothing in a name 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@dikshachettri1037
Yes you may have today a lot of names
today but back then when you had the connection from the Greek myths and history you were also a part of it
Now what is happening is totally different to what was happening back then
The Thracians used to be the barbaric part of Greeks
with not any polis
but the Thracian culture name gives the thriskia
which is religion
and all the mysteries to the Greek world
Orpheus the Thracian was Greek
and not from the moon
as the Slavs can’t have ancestors from Macedonia
but now they have the name because of geopolitical games
I am portuguese, from northen Portugal and did my DNA test 2 months ago. Tracians are my ancestors.
Nice:) It means one or several of your ancestors are originally from the Balkans...
@@ds-on4sm Several. 66,7% Iberian, 13,6% Greek and Italian, 9,7% Northen and Western European, 4,1% Balkans. Romans, Galo Romans, Illyrians, Pannonian Illyrians, Samnites, Scordisci, Etruscans, Daunii, Kingdom of Macedónia, Thracians, Dacians, Boii, Achean Greeks, Corinthian Greeks and more.
@@mariagomesdesousa5714 Yes, I see...the world is smaller than we think:)
You definitely have some Balkan DNA. Unlike you local Balkan nations have way more Thracian DNA. I can tell you what my DNA test result showed. 11% Eastern slav genes/ coming somewhere from Ukranian Steps/, 2% Western Uralic Turk and 87% Easter Mediterranean genes a.k.a thracian genes. My home city is located 65km away from the capital city of the only historical thracian country called the Odryssian Kingdom, named Seutopolis so it makes sense.
@@M.Georgiev8527 Mostly from Illyrians and Pannonian Illyrians. Seutopolis it is in Bulgaria, isn't it? I have some dna samples from Bulgaria during Iron Age. We are so blessed about our ancestors🙏🏻💙!
Northern thracian (geto-dacian) here. Good job
Thank you my Geto-Dacian friend 🙏
@@HistoryLeaks your welcome
Frate, noi suntem latini, nu suntem daci. Și probabil suntem Traco-Romani nu Daci sau Daco-Romani🤦
How was that a good job???
he has practically implied that the geto dacians did not exist north of Danube and they where less civilised than the rest of the thrchians.Yet all of the thrachians south of the Danube where conquered and enslaved by romans long before the dacian wars even begun.
@@andreiradu7708 i was reffering to the fact that he made a video about the thracians.And you are right, we we're the elite of the thracians
You got me. I adore readings of the classical sources, what were their observations, thoughts, beliefs on their people and the people around them.
It's telling that he compares the Thracians to the Indians, being as large as they were. Great work!
Thracians are HELLENES not Indians
Love it! Do you know of anysimilare soucre of the Illyrians?
Thank you! Off the top of my head I don’t know any…. But I would imagine there are Greek and probably later Roman sources about Illyria … especially since it was under Roman rule for a long time
Doar Românii a-u legături lingvistice cu Ilirii.
Albanezii și Românii .
Noi suntem moștenitorii de drept a Zonei .
@@HistoryLeaks Many sources about the Illyrians, I mention just a few ANCIENT only sources such as Stageiritis, Plutarch, Strabo, Plato and more all knew Illyrians as a barbaric tribe, often fought against Macedonians who are Hellenes. Illyrians is an ancient tribe nothing to do with Asian Albanians and their fake State established on 20th century
Thracians are protohellenes, all epigraph, ancient monuments cities, temples tombs if you ever visit Thrace are only in HELLENIC letters and words@robertolang9684
Does this map show connections between Thracia and Morocco ( North Africa )? Because I'm looking for that connection... When I was there I found that their local language is very easy to read and understand from me(im bulgarian) and the letters are pronounced the same way, but their language is supposed to be at least 1000+ years older than mine (Cyrillic alphabet)???
I’ve never heard that connection before, what is the historical reason for the connection in your opinion?
That first part didn't make any sense to me.
So two guys want to fight, and then something about the wives? Can you please clear that up for me?
Of course no make sense,its Serbs, we know that for sure
Don't forget that the Legends of Olympus were written by Homer 200 years after the people were telling the story. And Herodotus admits that the Greeks "borrowed certain characters from the Dacian people. In Romania there is the oldest temple in Europe, which is 8000 years old. The Temple of Partha. Where else is there something like this???.
Herodotus never spoke about Dacians . He spoke about Getae , which were living in another place and had another culture . Dacians appeared much later .
@@seaman5705 The Dacians...the most righteous and valiant among the Thracians. They go to battle without fear of death. As the great ZAMOLXES taught them.
@@seaman5705 PTOLEMEU: DACII erau inalti blonzi cu ochi albastri..foloseau agricultura ,apicultura, si erau cinstiti si drepti. Cu ei puteai sa faci afaceri doar pe Cuvant.Mai citeste documenteaza te si dupa stam de vorba. Cred ca despre SarmiseGetusa nici nu ai auzit si nici Nu stii ce a fost. Mai documenteaza te.
lol please offer us said quote from homer then ;) it would be entertaining since the dacians are never mentioned in the iliad...
@@wankawanka3053Not in the Iliad.....
The Thracians are one of the oldest European peoples. They were divided into many tribes, over 80 of which are known! Some of them are the Odris, the Getae, the Medes, the Bulgars, the Bessians, the Paeons, the Triballi, the Dardani, and many others!
If they were united they would have been strong, but unfortunately they fought among themselves and their enemies took advantage of that....
The Thracians were the first people to work gold. The first processed gold in the world was processed and buried with its owner who was an unknown Thracian ruler who lived in the area of the city of Varna (Bulgaria). Other incredible and unparalleled treasures are the Valchitran and Panagyur treasures.
A great Thracian ruler was Teres. He managed to create a country out of nothing and become the king of that country. He is the creator and first king of the Odris kingdom, which conquered a territory almost as large as that of Bulgaria only under the rule of Teres, who fought all his life against the enemies and most likely died in battle. Another great king was Seutus the Third. He is the rightful heir to the throne, but when he was born and raised, the kingdom of Odris was conquered. Seutus leads a revolution and frees him, becoming king of his liberated homeland. He has a bronze statue of which only the head has been found.
The Thracians were exceptional builders. They built many cities, monuments, temples and tombs, and in every detail they put diligence and art.
Evidence of the Thracians' thirst for freedom is Spartacus.
He becomes an ordinary Thracian warrior who is enslaved by the Romans. He was sentenced to death in the Arena in the city of Capua, but managed to kill several gladiators with only one sword. He then becomes an invincible gladiator. Because of his thirst for freedom and revenge, he managed to lead an army of slaves and gladiators, kill his master, free many slaves and kill many noble Romans. He does impossible things and creates a huge army that conquers cities, kills enslavers, but unfortunately is defeated by the most elite Roman troops.
The main genetic heirs of the Thracians are the Bulgarians, despite the lies that the Bulgarians were "Tatars" and other similar lies devoid of any logic, created to make the Bulgarians feel sorry.
Other descendants of the Thracians are the Romanians, the Serbs, the Macedonians, and the states along the Adriatic Sea.
Bolgars are Turks mixed with Slavs. The Vlachs that you assimiated are descendants of Thracians( Dacians, Getae, Moessians, etc)
Yes, the Bulgarians are Slavs with Turkic mix. No, the Vlachs were not descendants of the Thracians but of the Romans - that is why they spoke and still speak a Romansh language . That is why we, Romanians speak a Romansh language . Thracian languages, are mostly unknown and the Thracians of the Balkans were long time Romanized before the arrival of the Slavs and the Bolgars . Part of the Vlachs were Slavicized, but most kept their Latin based language and most of them migrated to the north of Danube were they formed Romanians by mixing with other people living there . @@almeu433
@@seaman5705 Almost right. Who are the Romanized Thracians then? Must be at least one Thrachian tribe...Moesii, Baesii..?
At least all Thracian tribes living north of Jirecek line and south of Danube were Romanized . It is agreed that south of Jirecek line, they were under the Greek influence . Moesi , Getae , Illyrians of south of Danube, south of Pannonia were Romanized because there was a long Roman rule on those territory - since 2nd century BC. 2nd century BC is also when the Dacians appeared in history as mercenary Getae and other people occuping lands north of Carpthians . Bessi, according to Porphyrogenetus , were still bearing this name in the 8th century , because they lived isolated . But the region was heavily colonized with other citizens of the Empire , which strengthened the Roman/Latin element of the region . Same happened in Dacia , while many "natives" from the conquered territories were enrolled in the Roman army - specially for Dacians, they were massively exterminated and deported for their aggressive and treacherous behaviour . Roman/Latin element gave birth to Vlachs after the region was invaded and settled by Slavs and Bolgars . Vlachs declared themselves , in 12 century as being descendants of Roman colonists in the Balkans . Those Vlachs moved, continuously but in small quantities , north of Danube giving birth to Romanians - after they mixed with Slavs of north Danube . Of course other populations were caught in the mix everywhere - like descendants of al kind of Turkic migrators populations , Germanic, Celtic , Sarmatians.@@almeu433
@@seaman5705All your comments are completely wrong!!!
Bulgarians and Thracians are the same people. Dna studies links Bulgarians with the oldest Neolitic populations that have existed on the Balkans like Pelasgians and Thracians. This is the truth. The rest are propaganda tales from our enemies. This is Bulgarian history. I don't understand what foreigners are doing here teaching Bulgarians their own history. Don't you understand how stupid is to come and tell the people who actually live in Thrace, that they have nothing to do with those lands? The Thracians were the best warriors, do you think they would allow others to take over. Nowhere is recorded a fight between Bulgarians and Thracians because they were the SAME people. Why nobody has thought about this. Go watch a video on Bulgarian/Thracian connection. Bulgarians were the Trojans in the Trojan war. We did not come here in 681 for the first time. This is fraud.
Slavs is only a language group, not a new identity. This slavic bullshit has confused many people. Bulgarian don't come from some Slavs but directly from the Thracian language, proven by archaeology. Dacians and Getae spoke Thracian as well.
And the "turkic" bulgars turned out to be Thracians from Moesia, living on the other side of the Danube as free Thracians who in 681 crossed the Danube to liberate their brothers from the Romans. The Roman empire made a peace contract with Bulgaria, so we became the first country in Europe. Most of Romania is historically Bulgarian lands.
Bulgarians had a parallel Scythian history but our origin is local.
Stop believing German /Western propaganda. Getae and Goths are one and the same people. When Germans stole the Getae and Aryan history they invented new origin for the Bulgarians and the rest of Eastern Europe. Semitic/hamitic Ethiopians aka greeks became "cradle of European civilization". History is turned upside down.
(Check "bulgar" on Encyclopedia Britannica, we have zero turkic/mongolian dna )
it is Kazanlak not Kaanlak on 1:35
Which alapabet was Herodotus using
The Greek alphabet
@@victorlikas5781 Huh?
Modern day Bulgarians are direct descendants of Thracians,almost all of what they left us is in present day Bulgaria,especially in the valley of the kings around Kazanlak.
So what we the TURKIC PEOPLE are direct descendants of the TROJANS. Almost all of what they left us is in present day TURKIYE. Especially in the CANAKKALE region of Hisarluk.
@@islammehmeov2334 not really,because we are genetically identical to Thracians.Turks are a mix of Greeks,native Anatolians,Armenians,Balkan Slavs,Central Asian people and Middle Eastern people.Most of the culture in present day Turkey is Hellenic so i wouldnt say your case is the same
@@rumenmarchev3031 in your dreams I'ven one of the GREATEST OTTOMAN TURKS SULTAN sad that TURKS are TROJANS. MEHMET THE CONQUEROR how AVENGE TROY 🇹🇷💪
@@rumenmarchev3031 and you bulgarian are not the identical to the thracians you are mixed of TURKIC slavic greek romanias GYPSY and more LoL
@@rumenmarchev3031 and TROJANS are ANATOLIANS and TURKS have ANATOLIAN BLOOD SO TROJANS ARE TURKIC
Sounds like a description made by their enemies (depicting them as savage psychopaths).
Actually during that time such rituals were common all around Europe. Even the Celts had similar.
Thracians had a very old culture. Their enemies, the Greek were describing Thrax as savage, but actually the Greek were nomads who came to Europe from behind the Caucasian steps.
@@allenjanev lol, sure 🤣
Part of northern Greece such as the area of Macedonia looks like today's Greece and part of the newly formed state of today's Macedonia were Thracians. Herodotus even accurately describes this great people spread over a vast area at that time. All that numerical population, which covered a considerable area, bore different regional names: Bulgarians, Macedonians, Carpi, Dacians, etc., etc., they all spoke the same language and had the same customs, but each region had its chiefs, as we find in all the peoples formed in history up to a unity of it took some time before they were united under a single head as were the Greeks in antiquity.
Only the romanians of today that live in the old teritory of Dacia speak a language Close to the Thracians the rest of the tracian teritory was conquered by white slavs that changed the language
It is funny for people to try to say they are Thracian, at best you have blood that came from them but pretty much nothing else.
For real. Even Americans have more right to self-ID as British or German than these people do as Thracian.
I am thracian and my language, romanian, is thracian, my name is thracian, my house build from twigs and mud, its thracian😂.
Thracian language is romanian and is the ancestor of sanscrit and of all the indoeuropean languages.
Getae- romanians. Massagetae - romanian or thracians that got to spread romanian language into India.
@@mihaiilie8808 I'm refering to people in Bulgaria that say they are Thracian and again your by logic can be aid for Dacia, you can have the blood and in certain regions more but nothing retains you to Dacian language or that much of the culture that we dont even what is from them rather is wishful thinking that some tradition is that ancient . Specifically for you there were Avars, Vlachs, Cumans, Mongols, Magyars and many other on the land and you want to keep memory of the oldest for some reason and the roman heritage because both sound nice. If we should have accepted that you have as people only some ancestry of both, you can be only one, you cant be Thracian/Dacian and in the same time Roman and claim heritage from Rome. Hell even your language was 60% slavic until 19th century when you decided that you will tone down the slavic words and made the alphabet Latin based just for that reason to be more with Rome.
@@vasil.kamdzhalov In Romania we never had slavic language, other than the church.
Regular people that were illiterate always spoke romanian and romanian is dacian( thracian).
Because sanscrit is romanian, long before the Roman Empire, the dacians spoke this vulgar latin wich is romanian and like sanscrit.
Massagetae are getae wich means vlach or dacian or getae( 3 names for the same people).
We have more thracian coulture in Romania than Bulgaria but Bulgaria has the land.
These thracians got out from under the Black Sea when it was flooded.
I am romanian and my haplogroup is like that of Varna chief( haplogroup T).
Dacians stayed more pure, they preserved the original thracian coulture, while Bulgaria mixed a lot with massagetae, turks and greeks.
Your own thracologists say that romanian is the ancient thracian, the proto indoeuropean and the mother of sanscrit( thus romanian is the mother of the latin, germanic and slavic and sanscrit).
Budhist monk in India know more history about europe than europeans.
They say they speak romanian and also the hindu.
Just google,, why there are 80 million romanian speakers in India,,.
Some of the slavic words you have are not slavic but thracian( the ones found in romanian also) but you got a lot of slavic from the massagetae.
@@mihaiilie8808 I will try to be friendly and try to read what you offered to google but there is so much crazy claims and reminds me of a lot of people that too much stay on Facebook or something and to those people best recommendation is to go outside for a bit and shake their heads from only the crazy articles because to look to crazy to take seriously. Sanskrit and all, connecting everything like this and people is insane is most cases and doesnt work when given proper documentation. The problem with anceint history is there are a lot of holes and people write whatever they like and say "Historians have proven".
Today tracians live in Bulgaria, Romania, Serbia, North Macedonia, Albania, Josovo, Adriatic countries (only balkan-adriatic)!
Mostly Bulgaria since its main ethnicity there
also Turkey
@@nati_X777 Those ate the bulgarians pomaks.
And they are still bulgarian not turkish.
Turkey does not have any thracian dna
@@BringBackCyrillicBGif most of them live in Bulgaria, that people are strong Thracians, why is Slava talking today?
@@raduandreisebastian3602 slavic was avvepted since Bulgaria was an empire and in order for an empire to work it centralises.
Thracians and turks had to adopt slavic since romania and serbia were part pf the empire and had the biggest populations.
Bulgaria is 6.5 million people, Romania is 19 mil.
Serbia would be above 10 mil if not for ww1
Who is slavic you think ?
It is not hte most powerful, but the most numerius and only indians could compare.
comment section summary: "we wuz thracians and shiiiieeeeet"
Yes, but do you know where the Thracians originated from?
According to the most ancient historical account, Thrace (Trausi) was settled originally by Tiras, grandson of Noah.
The more you know.
Oh please STOP WIRH THE BIBLE NONSENSE!! No we thraciana have nothing to do with your Noah.
"Throughout history, the wandering pastoral tribes of the Russian Steppes have descended on the seats of civilization in Europe and the Middle East. They have been called variously Scythians, Thracians, Cimmerians (and Kurgan Culture), Sarmatians, Cumans, Alans, Huns, Tatars, Turks, Slavs, Bulgars and Goths... "
Thracians are the same as Bulgars who became Scythians. The Scythians are modern day Slavs. Bulgars are not turkic. Check Encyclopedia Brittanica.
Debate should be solved. All this is about the Bulgarians.
Its the oposite, the tracians civilised the steppe people.
You have the romanian getae( thracians) and then you have the massagetae that are steppe people, basically and literally, steppe romanians, that got tonspread romanian language in India.
Sanscrit is romanian language, thracian.
The R1b steppe russians( yamnaya) , became celts and switched from burial to incineration and moved to west europe.
Just like Bulgaria civilised the slavs more recently, it was the same back then, with the thracians and the steppe people.
@@mihaiilie8808 The Thracians spoke old Bulgarian, Sanskrit is not close to Romanian but Bulgarian. Romanian is latinized Bulgarian. To put it shortly. I recommend a youtube channel about Bulgarian history. It is by Pavel Serafimov. He has written books as well. He tells the real Thracian history, not the propaganda version we know.
@@ds-on4sm San scrit means sfanta scriptura, the script of the saints.
How do you say sanscrit in bulgarian?
The old thracian language that latin and evey other indoeuropean language evolved is romanian.
Sanscrit is romanian and thats what indian sanscrit speakers say.
Thracians from Bulgaria spoke romanian language.
@@ds-on4sm The massagetae spoke romanian like the gets from Romania.
They took romanian language in India. There are some slavic words in romanian that are indeed thracian but thracian was like romanian, latin like, slavic like and even germanic like, because all indoeuropean languages evolved from Thracian( Romanian).
@@mihaiilie8808 Sanskrit / Samskrit in Bulgarian means a hidden or secret language. The Vedas were memorized and not written because knowledge was sacred. Skrit means Hidden in modern Bulgarian. The same word we use today. Romanian is a language based on Thracian (Bulgarian)but latinized since the 12 century.
We have Bulgarian names like Kardam in the Indian Mahabharata.
Scythians cousins
The comments are like a balkan war.
That really sums it up 😂😂😂
Very low quality too. When we were taken to visit the archaeological museum in Varna in Communist times the understanding was that there was this unknown and foreign people that lived in Varna before the Slavs. To me this is comic that Bulgarians come on line to say that they are Thracian and that with such an attitude.
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Thracians are not Greeks! Just wanted to be clear! Greeks came thousands of years later from North Africa! Greeks have stolen the Thracian history and named it by themselves as well as the Thracian gods! They never understood what are the real Thracian gods and what is the purpose of every Thracian ritual
that is very interesting. the Hungarians claim the Romanians came from the south, the Bulgarians claim the Greeks came from south as well, from Northen Africa. I guess they're trying to hide their ancestors had stolen land inhabited by orthers.
While it's true Thracians are not Greeks and their culture is their own, the Thracians are basically an extinct people. Also, genetic and archeological evidence points to Greeks (Mycenaeans) coming from Anatolia, likely descendants of the Sintashta culture. Keep in mind Greece is full of different tribes and did not become one people until after the classical age.
And the Slavs came and allowed to settle on n Eastern Europe after 650 AD with the pirmision from Constantinople
Hahaha what a clown you are 🤣
@@GabrielaLtc they just feel so threatened that they are living in stolen lands
Great video! Love from Dacia💙💛❤️
Doesnt exist neither Thracia
Dacia has hardly anythikg to do with Romania also
Dacia was hole to slavic people for longass time as well
@@BringBackCyrillicBG oh, please wise one, teach us in the comments...
The Greeks called themselves the Thracians - barbarians! To Bulgarians - too! To Serbs and Romanians - too! To all who they did not wear african dresses! This is documented from the ancient Thracian and Greek chroniclers. The Greeks have nothing with the Thracians!
Hmm interesting...do you have the source of that chronicler?
The Thracians were greeks without polis
City state so barbarians
@@apmikalogran there were not greeks, greeks have tracian in but + hellenic, not the opposite, there were no greeks at this time, example 6k years ago or more, it was tracian and pelasgians and others, greeks came way later from one of the tribes called pelasgians, there were cities and civilization way before, like artefacts and reasures can prove it, the balkan people came from the same ancestors, just different tribes
Well the part of south thrace became greek plus that doesn't make the bulgarian bulgarians are a mix of thracians ,slavs and turkic people
@@wankawanka3053 no, because now with researches of different ancient chronics, + DNA samples of 2 big projects with near 1000 of people, and few smaller researches of today people and samples of people lived on the lend of Bulgaria and around the Balkans proves that ours ancestors(the Bulgarians) were living on that land before the Ice Age, during the Flood on black sea and later mix with the new comers, which were called Thracians, ofc that not only about us, its about the whole Balkans and even more, because they were split more than just on the Balkans. The researches of samples show that we have around 80 and evem over 80% some of us as the people here even before 8000 years ago, which is proving the researches of the different Ancient Chronics as well, even in Greece in big part the people living there have same DNA as the today Macedonians, big part of them, and Romanians with the Bulgarians. Some people in Greece on the upper part have around 90% same DNA, because there were living people from the today Bulgarians, but the others around 75-78% i mean the real Greeks(ofc we speak here for Country as denes, ofc as borders, who is born there is Greek, even if is with less genes), because we have part of the same ancestors, i speak the ancestors lived on the land before more than 5000 and 8000 years, before it become even Ancient Greece, before the mix, but still the DNA of today Macedonians and Romanians is higher % similar with the Bulgarians, because were less mixed during that Thousands of years, so with them we still have near 85-90% same DNA, and 75 to over 80% same as that Ancient people, but you have a less, you cam make an DNA test as well and you will see, last 10 years were a lot of researches and big projects, there were some on the previous centuries as well, but now can be prove how much we have been brain washed about ours genes and Ancient History, ofc that's not only ours 4 countries, i just speak for the ones i know more with numbers and from ancient and today writings. Bulgarians have nothing with Slavs, Turks, or Huns or anything else, its part of the most Ancient people on the Balkans as the genes shows, no Turk, Slavs or any other mix in us,, there 20% are from the migrations and mixing just with new comers and some were migrating and coming back after time, you have even less genes from that people lived 8000years ago here to the today times, it doesn't make you different ofc, but you can't take the History of few countries here around only for your self, and with today technology and many different ancient sources can be prove today. Some people wanted to be greater, or to win the new histories about they countries, but today that lies can be prove already, but the truth is uncomfortable for them, the Balkans History were rewritten the last century, but before that the people were knowing they origins, that's political or other reasons lies comes for the comfort of some people later
Why would HERODOTUS use Latin names of Greek GODS?????????????
That's likely just how later historians translated his work
True lol yeah I didn’t realise that while reading through but that’s a good point and I’m sure they just decided to translate it from Greek gods to “Roman” for whatever reason
Because they are not Greek, and they are Thracian! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@@zalmorxis4736 what are these?
I found one paper published in Nature-Scientific Reports from 2019:
"Ancient human mitochondrial genomes from Bronze Age Bulgaria: new insights into the genetic history of Thracians."
In the results on page 6 it is said:
"Along the first component (sPC1) the ancient Thracians are closely related with Central-East European populations, while along the second component (sPC2) our samples show higher resemblance with present-day Mediterranean groups."
And in the discussion on page 7:
"In accordance with their geographical location, Thracians show a genetic composition clearly intermediate between East Europe and Mediterranean, that suggests multiple admixture events and population movements occurred across what is now the modern day Bulgaria. "
So, the contribution of East and Central European genetic pools is given by the 1st principal component (which, by the way, explains most of the data variance). This is in a full accordance with the linguistic theory of Mario Alinei and Collin Renfrew that Thracians were proto-Balto-Slavic speakers.
Read again - the study shows NOTHING but a mixture of people , Central-East Europeans with Mediterraneans - meaning Antolian and Levant like the Greeks , Turks etc . The Baltic split happened way before Slavs and Bolgars aperead on the scene .
And I think you are talking about Bulgarians , not Thracians .If you are talking about Bulgarians , they are Slavic since after 6 century, with earlier Roman colonists and Near East people , some Slavicized Thracians and other Balkanic populations
Last genetic (2023) study concludes that all Balkanic populations carry genes brought by the Slavs (6-9th century BC) in proportion of 30-60% . And much of remaining genes were brought by Roman colonists from all over the world , but mostly from Aantolia, Levant and Mediteranean space .
@@seaman-vy7mz I cite from the study. I do not speak, the study speaks.
@@TheGarrymoore Exactly - the study does not say anywhere that Bulgarians descend from Thrakians .
The ending phrase , about the linguist Alinei , is your conclusion , or a Bulgarian one ? Because is a mystification .
Genetic make-up has nothing to do with the language spoken by a group of humans .
There is no evidence that Thracians spoke a Balto-Slavic language . From the little we know about this language , is far from being a Slavic one. But Bulgarian is .
You have to understand that Thracians and proto Balto-Slavic people split maybe 5000 years ago in the steppe . It is rather possible that Balto-Slavic languages formed in the area where those people migrated , and they never spoke the same language with the Thrakians .
@@seaman-vy7mz Read Alinei yourself: Don't take my word. Google: Interdisciplinary and linguistic evidence for Palaeolithic continuity of Indo-European, Uralic and Altaic populations in Eurasia, with an excursus on Slavic ethnogenesis, "Quaderni di Semantica" 24, 2003,
Read particularly: 32-37.
Oh from Bulgarian scientific studies yes? Oh get a life and go read real studies
Now Thracians are working in entertainment and have TH-cam Channel named "Thrace Music"
Tiras-Piras-Parsi-Persi-Persia?
Thrace (Modern Greek: Θράκη Thráki) or Thraike in Greek mythology, was the eponymous heroine and sorceress of Thrace. She was the daughter of Oceanus and Parthenope, and sister of Europa. The word Thrace, from ancient Greek Thrake (Θρᾴκη), referred originally to the Thracians (ancient Greek Thrakes Θρᾷκες), an ancient people inhabiting Southeast Europe. Ancient Greek mythology provides the Thracians with a mythical ancestor Thrax, the son of the war-god Ares, who was said to reside in Thrace. In Greece people also use the word "Thraka" (Greek, θρακα) for a pile of burning coals, usually for grilling food, but in their ritual in many villages "Anastenaria" (Greek, Αναστεναρια) they walk barefood on burning coals, maybe the foreigners and historians who account them for the first time they give that name because of the many thraces (θρακες) in their land.
In Thracian religion the main gods are Dionysus later Orpheus and evolved in Byzantine and modern times to Christianity.
Most accounts say Dionysus was born in Thrace, traveled abroad, and arrived in Greece as a foreigner. His attribute of "foreignness" as an arriving outsider-god may be inherent and essential to his cults, as he is a god of epiphany, sometimes called "the god who comes"
One of the main instruments of Thrace is askaulos bagpipe askos+aulos bag+pipe "the bag of dionysus" today known as gaida and is made by goat skin, in the ancient ceremonies they sacrifice many goats/lambs thats why one of the epithet of dionysus is Aegobolus Αἰγοβόλος ("goat-shooter"), like christianity later they believe that the flesh (now bread) of the goat is the body of god and the wine is hιs blood, in ceremonies they use music to achieve ecstasy, one of the rituals that survived today is the Anastenaria people sacrifice a goat possesed by a spirit and dancing barefoot on fire, also in every spring in all over Greece in Easter to celebrate the ressurection of Christ/Dionysus is to cook and eating hundreds of goats/lambs.
"In Orphic legend, Dionysus under the name Zagreus "hunter who catches living animals" was the son of Zeus by his daughter Persephone. At the direction of Hera, the infant Zagreus/Dionysus was torn to pieces, cooked, and eaten by the evil Titans. But his heart was saved by Athena, and he (now Dionysus) was resurrected by Zeus through Semele. Zeus struck the Titans with lightning, and they were consumed by fire. From their ashes came the first humans, who thus possessed both the evil nature of the Titans and the divine nature of the gods"
If You Don't Know...In the 4th century before Hritos, the Great King Burebista, united the 200 tribes that SPOKE THE SAME LANGUAGE...NOT others...Achilles the Pelasgian, from the mouths of the Danube who lived in the island surrounded by the forest that his name was Letuce, now Letea forest, Spartacus who, during the Last King Dac Decebal, participated in his last battles. Do not forget that Romania is surrounded by the oldest cultures in Europe and perhaps in the world. Ex. in the Northeast we have the Cucuteni culture, in the Southeast the Hamangia culture and in the Southwest the Vincas Turda culture. So by exemplary logic, if all these cultures are on the territory of Romania, Who are we???. Dacia was made up of: Getae, Dacians and Thracians. The Getae were in the West, the Dacians in the North and the Thracians in the South, beyond the Danube. That is why many of the momentous temples of the Geto Thracian Dacian kings are located in the territories of today's Bulgaria or through a part of Serbia. The Romanian language has nothing to do with any other language. The Romanian language is the Primordial language. And for those who still do not know or have not studied, the Latin language is a surrogate language, of the ancient Romanian language. As the father of history, Herodotus, writes..about the Dacians. The Dacians are the most righteous and fearless of the Thracians. They go to battle without fear of death, because that's what their Great Zamolxes taught them. If they were a united people, no one would ever be defeated.
The Vatican knows better
The guy on the video: Using actual sources
People in the comments: My great grandpa told me that the Greeks came from Australia and made their alphabet in 2012. It has to be true
Lmao. I trust my great grandpa more than books or historians but I get it lol.
“Greeks came from Australia” 😂
Proud to be a Bulgarian knowing that my ancestors were such strong warriors. It's high time that history acknowledges the real contribution of Slavic people which originated from the Thracians to the world history and stops promoting false greek propaganda. The Troyan war for example was Thracian and greeks merely described it, but didn't even participate in it.
Bulgarians has got nothing to do with the ancient Thracians lol. You came from Asian and were known as the Bulgars the Greeks fought you in numerous battles and were considered invaders of the Balkans and not natives.
LoL you GYPSY bulgarian have nothing to do with the TROJANS only TURKS 🇹🇷💪
Bulgarians have this false misconception that they come from the Ancient Thracians for some weird reason. I will not start guessing why they do that, but Bulgarians are 100% Slavs (It is proven in all serious academic levels), they come from North East Europe, they made a nice medieval empire, they had great kings and rich history and you should focus on that, but one thing is certain Bulgarians have nothing to do with Thracians.
@@dlteodorian Wow. You seem to know it all I am a Bulgarian who literally lives in Thrace. My DNA is predominantly Thracian and Slavic. So I am not a descendant of Thracians? What most of you try to avoid is the reality of Bulgarian nationality. Bulgarians are not a homogenous group of single origin. Our nation was created by the nomadic people from the steps and we carry their name. But they are merely a fraction of all people who lived and left their mark on us. We have Slavs, Thracians, Cuman, Vlach, Greek, Turk, and many other mixes in our blood. So who are you exactly to tell me I am not a descendant of those people?
@@dlteodorian You are very incorrect modern studies indicate that Bulgarians are descendants of Thracians and have little to no Bulgar and Slavic DNA
Thanks to Ancient Greeks for the information they gave us about ancient peoples,and for the culture they spread in Thrace with their colonies and with their royal houses.
Thanks to your "ancient" greeks the history of Europe is distorted!! You can thank them for this, not culture. What could Ethiopian slaves of the Thracians give them? Lies, hate, deception, etc. What culture did the Thracians need from others when they civilized the greeks and many other people!
The people who spoke the oldest IE language, had the oldest IE religion, goldsmithing, writing, art and state building...
The Hellens were just one Thracian tribe. Read some books on this before you trust the greek propaganda.
@@ds-on4smleast insane Bulgarian
Modern day Bulgarians have the highest percent of native Balkan/Thracian DNA (49%) more than any other Balkan nation and + in Bulgaria there's alot of preserved Thracian traditions such as Kukeri, Martenitsa, Survakari, Nestinarstvo and others.
Bulgarian cope spotted
I'm coping so hard.I made all those things up. Go check them out. Also if you think the ancestors of Bulgarians are only the Bulgars, you're braindead. @@Michael_the_Drunkard
if so, these thraks lost their language and replace it with slavic why speak slavic >>?
E-v13 was thracian haplogroup , the people of Kosovo are the most thracians ...
@@XhonatanMyftiu The people of Kosovo are Shqiptar Muslim non-European creatures. Nice try. Bulgarians are Thracians, not you.
Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups. Both Greeks and Ethiopians share quasi-specific DRB1 alleles, such as *0305, *0307, *0411, *0413, *0416, *0417, *0420, *1110, *1112, *1304 and *1310. Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group and finally Greeks cluster with Ethiopians/sub-Saharans in both neighbour joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses. The time period when these relationships might have occurred was ancient but uncertain and might be related to the displacement of Egyptian-Ethiopian people living in pharaonic Egypt.
I counted many lies and also contradictions in the comment below.
The greeks called the thracians 'barbarian' or foreigners in the original meaning of the word, which makes us two distinct people.
Greeks have no sub saharian ancestry
Slavs created all this propaganda against greeks to claim thrace and Macedonia regions
Everyone knows your fairytales... even if modern greeks indeed were black
That will never made you Macedonian or Thracian
@@chrysamoss1414 So how can you claim the culture and lands of Europeans when you admit you are black people? Everybody who reads here can see that you are contradicting yourself and just lying.
This is not about color or race but a prove that genetically you are not related to us.
And we've been here for at least 8000 years.
The white European greeks are not ethnically greek. So you need to stop robbing our culture and identity.
Go read "Black Athena" . Thats your origin.
@@chrysamoss1414 We don't claim what's not ours. Thrace is ours by birth right, but you stole parts of it.
@@ds-on4sm i said greeks have not sub saharian ancestry learn to read thats a lie created mostly from balkanish uneducated like you so your people claim Greek lands and history
Second greeks were always here
Every modern greek has more than 20% Mycenaean ancestry
This is proven by geneticists
You can read articles and results of the research in since org and harvard university.
Also greeks have Caucasian ancestry as well never sub saharian our language culture, ancient pagan religion, blood is ido European
Greeks stayed in their territory 4k years Bulgarians came to the region and slavs from central Europe this lands wasn't theirs they are immigrants mix with the locals
Also black athena is a trash book created by afrocentric movement such as claim Cleopatra was black all historians archeologist
Made fun of
@@ds-on4sm there is nothing yours to begin with you have Thracian ancestry little more than the rest of balkans cos your ancestors immigrated where the Thracians lived.
Bulgaria 🇧🇬🤌
I am a Bulgarian and my DNA test shows that I am 95% Balkan- Thracian/ Old Greek.
Какъв грък бе
е те и гърците не са кой знае колко различни от траките
@@IvanIvanov-lb9ur Tam e rabotata vuiche
Thracians and Hellenics were very different and so are we and Southern Greeks. Those DNA tests compare your DNA to that of people from different regions, they don't analyse population genetics. Summary: it's a scam.
You are a gypsy, but not a Bulgarian!
The Pelasgians, Lelegs, Carians, Moesians, Getae, Illyrians and 200 other tribes with the exonym Thracians from the African Greeks Danaus, have been in the Balkans from 10,000 years, and the Greeks - Africans have been from 3,000 years! 😉
As thracian from Bulgaria iam grsteful that we kept our ancient genes till such point even more than hslf od bulgarian genetics come feom thracians but iam from south so its more
You are Slavs, not Thracians. Greeks are way closer to Thracians.
Long live the THRACIANS DACIANS THE MOST FEAR WARRIORS, ÚLFHÉÐNAR WOLF WARRIOS 🇷🇴
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Yup, that definitely sounds like the Yugos alright.
Thracians and Greeks are different nations. Greeks came to Balkans 1900BC when the Thracians had already a very advanced civilization 4000 years earlier.
thracians ain't a nation they were not s single people group ,just an umbrella term used by the greeks simlar to acnient india
First greeks came in 3200bc in balkans and there was no organized civilization before 5000 bc my friend. The egyptian civilizatio was the first in 4000bc.
Plus they werent one nation or same people. Its a gekgraphical term
Today this is My Country heild
Eh, these stuff in comments...
Yes, Thracians with 60% probality weren’t Greeks, but they on 99,99997% weren’t Slavs too, so chill my bulgarian and serbian bros(hi from Slovakia btw)
Yup and Bulgaria is the least "Slav" country geneticwise, linguisticwise and culturally. Only 15-18 % slav genes are found in modern day Bulgaria. Put one Bulgarian among 10 dudes from Poland or Chechia and I can tell you which one is the Bulgarian fella.I worked and lived 3 years with Poles and I can tell you they look waaaaaay different than Bulgarians. Even culturally and linguistically we are way different. Bulgaria and Macedonia are the only countries where the language is analytical and not synthetic like the rest of Slav language. Richness of verb tenses and lack of grammar cases are huge differences. All the best my slovac brother.
Thracian are today minority living in Bulgaria iknow they are not grece from North Africa or illiryans Albanians neither slavs different race with own culture
Jews know about some different history of Slavs and Balkans
Thraki are Draki, Drakon, Dragon.
Thracians are primarily Bulgarians 🇧🇬🦁 So was Achilles and Orpheus, The God of War Ares and many more
@roberto lang you are entitled to believe whatever you want! But it doesn’t change the facts.
@roberto lang you have a lot to read my friend 😀 have you ever heard of Herodotus? The father of history? I suggest you make you due diligence before you speak. 😉
@roberto lang and I carry 51 % 😉
@roberto lang you seem very bitter 😆 but still you are entitled to believe whatever you want 🤷🏽♂️ I don’t even read your comments where you try to convince yourself that you are right
Bulgarians has got nothing to do with Thrace Thrace was Greek
Bulgarians descended from trachians! Bulgarians are trachians😊
I'm from the capital Philippopolis
Филипопол е от македонската инвазия... Не знаеш ли че Тракийското име е Пулпудева?
What greek tell us must be multiply with 0.5
Thracians are bulgars we have hisotry before greece they came to africa ans still thracian history even took our gods us there but diffrent name just to know that
Bulgars didn't migrate to Bulgaria until the iron age.
Sweet dreams tatars 😏
@@wankawanka3053 lol
How can you be so illeterate, Bulgars as Avasoslaves came to HELLENIC THRACE some 1200 years ago, but you find in Bulgarian escavations especially on Black Sea Coast all Greek cities of 5000 years ago. ΒULGARIANS ARE NOT EVEN EUROPEANS THEY CAME FROM STEPPES OF ASIA NAMED VULGAR, THRACIANS IS THE MOST ANCIENT HELLENES, AND THE HELLENIC CIVILIZATION BEGINS IN THRACE, THIS IS WHY ALL YOUR ARCHAELOGICAL MONUMENTS IN BULGARIA ARE IN HELLENIC, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE OF THRACIANS, ALL THRACIAN HISTORIANS AND PHILOSOPHERS WROTE IN ANCIENT GREEK, AL TRHACIAN KINGS ARE WITH HELLENIC NAMES. YOU SAY STUPID JEWISH COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA BUT ALL EVIDENCES ARE AGAINST YOU. THE RELIGION OF THRACIANS WAS THE EXACT SAME OF THE REST OF GREEKS. YOU ARE SO REDICULOUS YOU EXCIBIT GREEK GODS AND GODDESESS MONUMENTS AND YOU SAY THESE ARE "THRACIA GODS" ZEUS ATHENA APOLLO YOU NAME THEM AS THRACIAN GODS, OF COURSE THEY ARE THRACIAN AS GREEK GODS. SO CULTURALLY, HISTORICALLY, ARCHAELOGICALLY, LINGUISTICALLY, ARCHITECTURALLY, AND ANY OTHER TRUE SCIENCE YOU TAKE , THRACE EVEN THE NAME IS HELLENIC ΘΡΑΚΗ YOU ARE MONGOL ASIAN DO NOT KNOW WHAT TRHAX MEANS YOU JUST COPY FROM THE LETTERS WE GAVE YOU AND AS A MONKEY YOU SAY TRAKIA BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS, SO LEARN SOMETHING FROM ME TODAY, THRAX MEANS THE RELIGIOUS PERSON BECAUSE THE WORD ΘΡΑΚΗ ΘΡΑΞ ΘΡΗΣΚΕΙΑ IS A VERY ANCIENT WORD WHICH MEANS RELIGION. AND THIS IS WHAT S HAPPENING IN THRACE THE FIRST RELIGION OF THE HELLENIC WHITE PEOPLE RACE IS CREATED. THIS IS ONE MORE EVIDENCE THAT THRACE IS FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS HELLAS. BULGARIA OCCYPY NORTHERN THRACE FOR THE LAST 1200 OF THEM
Greeks were native here unlike you Bulgarians who are turko Slavic migrants from Eastern European plains
The Thracians were dressed people unlike the Greeks in XIII century BCE!
Odysseus and Diomedes (both undressed) stealing the horses of Thracian king Rhesus (fully dressed) they have just killed.
Painting of the Apulian red-figured situla of the master Lycurgus, about 360 BC. National Museum of Archaeology, Naples. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rhesos_MNA_Naples.jpg
LOL, to compare Thracians to Indians is insane.
Tanky BulgARIAN trakian kultura 🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬
PROUD TROJAN TURKS KULTUR 🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷
@@islammehmeov2334yes 👍
Greeting from a half thracian and half greek🇬🇷
@@alexandrosonassis3436 my grand father was from northern thraci that’s why
@@alexandrosonassis3436 Από την Δακία μάλλον….από οσο ξέρω εκεί στον Δούναβη πάνω
@@alexandrosonassis3436 Are you insane? Occupied by the Bulgars?
@@alexandrosonassis3436 This is complete nonsense. It's laughably moronic. Tens of thousands of years? When do you think Phillipopolis was established, in the last ice age? How are dimwits like you even alive?
@@alexandrosonassis3436 HAHAHA 😂
This about Gods worship is A OURE NONSENSE. Thracian tribes worshiped the god Sabadius or Sabatius, the God of victory, symbolised by three fingers (thumb, index and middle) raised high, as the three Thracian ritual spears. Common and still used national symbol with the Serbian people (you especially hate them by that).
🇧🇬Bulgarian geti trakia people kultura huns dna
Bulgaria dna trakia treble geti i други. Свещари Омуртаг.
@@alexandrosonassis3436 ти африка
Да готуея на майката африка гръцка
You are black nomad greek afrikan eritrea etiopian. Greek is afrikan very blac skin etiopian
@@stoyanstoyanov9282 TI APESLAND
BUKURESHT , what does means,,, im afraid that it is explained by Albanian😂😂😂😂
The name GREECE is coming from Albanian Language and that mean GRA EC = GRA ECIN or in English Women Walkin . 100% ALBANIAN archaic and Albanian modern to day.🇦🇱👋🙏🇦🇱👋
Bruh 🤣 you Albanians are very funny literally the word greece comes from freaking latin but it was already the name of a tribe named greeks stop embarrassing yourself
The name of the Danaus-Greeks comes from the priestly tribe of the Pelasgians - (S)eli (inhabited-(С)ели - Σελι)! 😉 The priestly tribe in the temple of Zeus Pelasgian - Dodonа. 😄
The Danaus-Greeks of Ethiopia steal the Thracian-Pelasgians name ,Seli" (Inhabitants - who maintain the temple of Zeus Pelasgian). 😊
Zeus - Δίας, means day (Ден). 😉
Thracian is an exonym from Danaus! The real name is Arian from Aria (the old name of Thrace). That is, the god Ari (Ares) from Aria (Thrace) - born! Father of the Amazons, Getae, Cimmerians (Scythians), Humes (Massagetes - Moesians and Getae). 😗
Huns * - Massagetes
@@zalmorxis4736 άχρηστε ο Δίας λέγεται και Ζευς 🤭
These were a celtic or gelic people. Decendants of the lost tribes.
They were not.
Bulgarians still speak the language.
My research has pointed to the Baltics and the Eastern Corded Ware Culture.
Today, the Thracians are mountaineers from the Carpathians.Goralos from Karpatos
Csrpsthians are slsvix territory, thracians live south of thr danube in Bulgaria.
Lesrn about the slavic migrstion
@@BringBackCyrillicBGthe Getae/Dacians were a Thracian people north of the Danube. The slavic migration was everywhere including Bulgaria, it was not more in the Carpathians. The Slavs settled in the lower lands
@@raulpetrascu2696 The slavs settled in Romania crnturies before even Bulgaria got to the balkans and carpaths.
If they didnt Bulgaria wouldnt speak slavic
Im the bulgarisn empire there were thracians slavs and turkics
Turks were on the black sea coast, thracians were on modern day Bulgaria and slavs in Romania and Serbia and the other territories
were part gf the empire
@@BringBackCyrillicBG what the fuck are you talking about? Slavs settled in Bulgaria and Wallachia regions not the Carpathians, that's why modern Bulgarians speak Slavic. I don't even know what weird shit you're saying. Bulgaria was a slavicized region before even the Bulgars came (they were not calling themselves Thracian anymore), in most of Romania the Slavs there were assimilated by the local population because there weren't as many as in the places that are today Slavic countries. You realise Bulgaria is a slavic country and Romania is not right? You're making it sound like Romania was slavic first and made Bulgaria slavic and then unslaviced itself lol wtf
you are talking nonsense. How did the Slavs stay in Romania the first time?...Bulgarians speak Slav...what are you talking about...Romanians have nothing to do with the Slavs...we are the ancestors of the powerful Geto-Dacians who are the same race as the Thracians. Have you heard of Decebal or Burebista?
World first cultures Lepenski vir, Starcevo, Vinca culture today Serbia.
World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010)
Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube
Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together.
Harald Harman about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world.
Vinca Iron production 1400 BC.
In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words.
Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan, Wendi, Illiyrians, Macedonians, Dardanians (Original Troy is here, not in Turkey Homer wrote sea is freezing in the winter-Panonian sea), Moesians, Dacians, Tracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians. Tribes spread in all directions all over Europe and Asia …….
Wild Greeks arived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgariens from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people. 18 Roman emperors were born in Serbia because of Etruscan connection.
After Trojan war many groups of people left Troy in all directions to middle Europe, northern Europe to Britain and Scandinavia, south to Anatolia.One group under Aeneas sat sail with 22 ships and about 3400 followers and reach Italy-Etruscans.
Proto serbian language is older than Sanskrit, Greek, Latin or all western Europian languages. Plato confirms in his work The Dialogues of Plato-Cratylus the Greeks used Pelasgian (Proto Serbian) to develop their own language.
THRAK = SZKÍTA ..... !!!
:)
Serbs, we know that for sure...
romanians are not thracians no matter how bad they wanted to be, they are mix between pechenegs, cumans, rusins, bulgarians, hungarians, etc. new born nation.
A stupidity ! See genetics, culture and language of Romanians. Can tell for Bulgars. Bulgars has nomadic peoples, a mixture of Turks and Slavs comes to the Thracica area.
😂😂😂😂😂,
In old thracian...Bulgarian belive ,, că sunt miezul din dodoască"
@@cristicoaje7116 Can you explain why not a single source mention romanians 1500 years. I can tell you but you will not gone like it.
@@sbs44-h5k Aberation. Go again to school. True school , no comunist nationalist propaganda.
Noslllavs is dis time f kjy
the Thracians had the same language as the Dacians (Romanians), so today's Bulgarians are... have you heard of the Volga???? today we find Thracians all over the Balkan peninsula and especially in Romania ... and there are also some Thracians in Greece, North Macedonia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Albania, Croatia who speak a dialect of the Romanian-Geto-Dacian-Vulgar Latin language
Especially in Romania. Are you joking? The biggest thracian treasures were found in the valley of roses and thracian kings in Bulgaria. More than 50 of 80 thracian tribes lived in the contemporary borders of Bulgaria. Seutopolis - the capital of the only Thracian kingdom is located under Koprinka Dam again in Bulgaria. Thracian were all over the Balkans but modern day Bulgaria is the only country you can say Thracian tribes cover 100% of its territory, and Thracians lives only in Wallachia, which you know covers southern Romania only.
@@M.Georgiev8527 Slavs do not speak the Romanian language, but Thracians do speak the same language as the Dacian ghettos, and today's Bulgaria are Slavs (Volga Bulgarians). When there were Thracians there was no trace of Slavs in this world, they appeared about 1000-1500 years after the Thracians
The Thracian language is proto Bulgarian and in the Balto Slavic language group, not latin. Romanian is vulgar latin and therefore has nothing to do with Thracian. Bulgarians and Thracians are the same people. We have always spoken Thracian, today in modern form and the bulgars in the Steppe were of Thracian origin, therefore spoke the same language. This slavic and turkic nonsense is just lies nobody in their right mind believes anymore.
The Thracians spoke Bulgarian.
Colin Renfrew, a respected archaeologists says that in his book "Archaeology and language"
"No doubt they did indeed speak a Thracian language akin to that in what is now Bulgaria, whose origins were suggested earlier."
The bulgars were therefore not turks. This is old propaganda. See an update on them on Encyclopedia Britanica:
Although many scholars, including linguists, had posited that the Bulgars were derived from a Turkic tribe of Central Asia (perhaps with Iranian elements), modern genetic research points to an affiliation with western Eurasian and European populations.
Slavs are only a language group, not a new identity.
Ia-o usor cu limba . Nu poti sa demostrezi ca Dacii vorbeau limba Tracilor .Nimeni nu poate , pt ca limba Dacilor nu se cunoaste iar din limba tracilor , au rams 4 inscriptii . Deocamdata se crede ca Tracii nu vorbeau aceeasi limba in toate triburile , iar dacii nici atat . Uita propaganda noastra nationalist-comunista , ca te invata numai prostii .
Check what language the documents of Count Dracula are written in, Latin or ...😊
Thracia was known like a country of horse-man😅😅😊inhabitants are half horse and halfhumans with a trumpet.They are living i territ ory of 3 country :Romania nowday,Bulgarien and Ilirya till to pannonia fields.They are pelasgs fisherman,hunters and agricultureman,from ionic,and dorian greeks arrival in Europe.They build city and villages everywhere.And are great man and very fast people according legend.😊Hercules cannot win against thracians and was taked prisonier and chained to works of Hercules,maybe in Rhodopi mounts.😊😊😊
Thracian is Old bulgaria !!!!!
No you are Slavs
Why don't you have Thracian words in your language?
@@SauTunSud2025 yes,its not Greek, Greece is Atina,and island,now more that,resto its thracian(bulgaria old and grande)
@@nikpulos6997 There are no Thracian words in Bulgarian language.
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De ce Bulgarii nu a-u în vocabular cuvinte Tracice ?🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂
On the contrary. There is even a Thracian dictionary, but it will be very difficult for you to understand it in Romanian😊
@@АнтонПавлов-ц4з Poate sunt trei cuvinte . Noi Românii avem cuvinte care atestă vechimea noastră în aceste teritorii.!
Voi a-ți învățat limba cuceritorului.
V-ați trădat pe voi și neamul Tracic.!
HELLENIC THRACE
@Costea Bogdan cope
@@alexandrosonassis3436 This is just silly. It's ridiculous. Go back to school, kid.
@@TzvetozarCherkezov ahahaha what a reponse
There's no such thing. There's Hellas and there's Thrace. Nothing in common. Not linguistically, not culturally nor genetically. Greeks the only balkans with major african genetic influence.
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Today, the Thracians are mountaineers from the Carpathians.
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Thracians are bulgarians only hungarians live şn csrpaths
GREECE=GRAECIA >>>>> Albanian GRA=ECI in English WOMEN WALKING , because before Christ on the War betwin Spartans and Athineus many many womens remain without their hausbands,,,, (Hystoriclly this is happened) And the Name GRAECI was named by the Yliriand (to day Albania) BYE BYE adherfia Stin GRAECIA👋🇦🇱🙏🇦🇱👋
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You Albanians are getting funnier and funnier every day 😂
@@greekmetalhead1805 one question,,,, how many times had chenge the flag elada ? The last 100 years ? What the state you have ? 🤣😂🤣😂
@@greekmetalhead1805 one more time with red croche one more time white and blue ahahahahhaha What is yors identity ?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@robertomeraj8898 A) What is a croche?
B) The "albanian" flag is a straight up copy of the Byzantine flag. Do you really feel proud for that? 😂
C) The Greek language has a written record of more than 3400 years. How old is the oldest albanian text?
Funny albanians trying to steal History to compensate for the fact that you have none of your own. Keep entertaining us.
@@greekmetalhead1805 Why the Toscana is called the centre of Italy with capital Fiorence ?,,, I waiting a responde from you in this question,,, this is too importante for your education.👋
Thracians are Serbians
No.
Thracians (Triballi - Serbs) 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
thracians are bulgarians, serbians have nothing to do with thrace
@@docdoc7691 Serbs (Triballi) are Thracians. This is proven by many old historians and chroniclers. Also, genetics proves that Serbs are of Dinaric origin (haplogroups: I2a1, Q1a, E-V13). Bulgarians are not Thracians. Bulgarians are of Tatar origin (Proto- Bulgarians, Proto-Bulgari). Today's Bulgarians in western Bulgaria are Bulgarianized Serbs - Šopi (Triballi).
@@lepapriroda9807 of course serbians like to claim all history as theirs, just remember ur whole alphabet and identity is from bulgarians who are the first slavs in balkans and who invented cyrilics. serbian today is 80% turkish so wonder who is really tatar here gypsy 😂 😂 u r gypsy mixed with turk and the identity is known as serbian today learn history stop with propaganda
@@docdoc7691 Typical propaganda, notorious lies, racism, Serbophobia and pseudo-history.
Bulgarians have Turkish genes and are gypsies.Tatar Bulgarians, don't cry. 😂
By the way, I am a professor of history and graduated from the University of Serbona.
@@lepapriroda9807 This is just silly. None of this is even remotely true. Where did you read it, can I see?
Rasci (Serbs).
slavs
They were not slavs ,slavs had their own religion and gods 🤣
More of a fairy tale than history , with the well known exagerations of Herodotus . Thracians were neither so many , neither so strong - history proves it .
All of those lands will forever be Greek
Only one small part of Thracia today is greek land!
Turkey has got one small part of thracia too, the most big part of Thracia is in Bulgaria!
@@Trakite Bulgaria occupies Greek land. No matter the lies, Thrace will forever be Greek and we will reclaim it.
Hahahahha good joke man. You have more african genes than Northern African people. Fat , hairy, curly people have nothing to do with Thrace. The biggest thracian treasures were foung in the Valley of the Thracian kings in Bulgaria. The capital of Odryssian kingdom lies under Koprinka dam near city of Kazanlak. So dream on you african fella.
@@Ikaros1994you are the occupier this land was ours since the time of the first Bulgarian Empire stop being so selfish the world does not revovle around you greeks!
Thraki, the daughter of Okeanos and Parthenopi. No other Greek tribe has give some much to Greek civilisation. With Orfeas, music, poetry and the mysteries. Eymolpos created the mysteries of Eleysina. They gave the rest of the Greeks Dionysus and Ares. They spoke Greek, competed in the Olympic Games (you had to prove your Greek bloodline in order to compete), had Greek names, eveything about them is Greek. They always took part in the biggest events of Greek history. Famous Greeks were from Thrace, as Thucydides, Diomidis, Dimokritos, Tegyrios, Poltis, Thamyris etc. It’s ridiculous, illogical, anti Hellenic and crazy to say that they weren’t Greeks. It’s like saying that Macedonians aren’t or the Pelopponesians. Everyone considered them part of the one and only Greek race. There is literally no proof that they weren’t Greeks. Only endless proof that they are and forever will be Greeks. In modern days for political and anti Hellenic reasons they are presented as non Greeks with no proof at all, only empty and unscientific words. No logic, out of reality. Bulgarians are occupying Greek land. The majority of Bulgarians are genetically Greeks but have lost their identity and are being brainwashed to believe they are Slavs. They portray Thracians as non Greeks for their own benefit. Thrace will forever be part of Greece, Thracians will forever be Greeks, no matter the systemic lies, truth won’t change.
You don't even manage to pronounce the name of our Gods correct😅
Exactly, famous "greeks" were from Thrace, means they were Thracians, not greeks. You just fooled the world they were greek.
Greeks arrived first in bronse age. You inherited everything from the Thracians.
We are sick of you stealing our identity.
You fall into the trap of your own fabricated history, admitting that the Thracians gave you indeed everything😊
Thracians are and always be Bulgarians by dna.
The etymology of the name “Thracians” is related to the name of one of the numerous tribes - the Travcians. Later the Greeks used “Thracians” to denote wild, uneducated, barbarian people. The Thracians built such an image of themselves because of the endless wars they waged among the different tribes and also with their neighbours. The Thracians were skillful warriors and for that reason they were highly sought after mercenaries.
Homer provides the first written account of the Thracians in “The Iliad” where they are depicted as powerful soldiers fighting on the side of Troy. The ancient historian Herodot describes the Thracians as the most populous people along with the Indians and claims that if not for their constant fighting, the Thracians would be invincible when united.
Here you can see greeks are NOT Thracians!
When we had an advanced civilisation you were still deep in Afrika living like simple nomads. This is the thank you for giving you everything, you ungrateful people! You pretend you are us, it's called theft of identity. It should have been ancient Bulgaria and Thrace, not ancient greece. Now people can see the truth. You force me to say it out loud because of your arrogance and shameless lies!
No arguments, no evidence, no debunks, as it is logical you butthurt barbarian. Thracians are 100% Greeks and Greeks ONLY. No matter the lies, truth won’t change. I know it hurts because you have nothing and you keep stealing. All the proof and logic shows that they are Greeks. The same way as the peloponnesians or the Macedonians are Greeks. Keep your head down.
@@Ikaros1994Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups. Both Greeks and Ethiopians share quasi-specific DRB1 alleles, such as *0305, *0307, *0411, *0413, *0416, *0417, *0420, *1110, *1112, *1304 and *1310. Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group and finally Greeks cluster with Ethiopians/sub-Saharans in both neighbour joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses. The time period when these relationships might have occurred was ancient but uncertain and might be related to the displacement of Egyptian-Ethiopian people living in pharaonic Egypt.
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So you still claim our culture? You are delusional. You can't be European and African at the same time.
Greek is spoken only in Greece. The Thracians never let you come further into our lands than the islands!
You whitewashed your origin by stealing the Thracian civilisation and calling it "greek". If you are a white person in Greece, you are not greek but Bulgarian or Macedonian by dna. End of story.
HELLENIC THRACE
(H)sELLEN(IC) - Pelasgia
Danai - Ethiopia - Gaekos
Thrace - Aria 😉
Keep saying this if it makes u feel better
@@aleksandarstoichev5463 Bulgar tatars are from Tatarstan
Turkic Thrace!!!
@@jonjonboi3701 Turks are from MONGOLIA