It needs to be cheaper and lighter for it to be a success. Being able to carry it inside would be a huge plus for urban travel especially toward youths with no garage space
At this speed and range, BMW should be exploring high-powered Stand-on motorbikes (E-Scooters), which are far more compact and just as powerful, making them ideal for those who live in smaller spaces.
If you live in the center of a major American city and work as a software engineer, I can see how this would’ve a practical vehicle. Other than this specificity demographic, I don’t see the point of this silly little expensive scooter…
The youth is going to buy a cheap 2nd hand motorcycle or scooter and the wealthier ones are going to get a car as a gift along with their license by their parents so the market for this thing is nearly non existent and another problem is that since it looks cool , has good quality peripherals and is small it screams "steal me".
Man I’m a 20 year old 3rd year nursing student in Washington, DC. This would so perfect to ride in the city to my clinical sites. But nope too busy paying the school. So I don’t count towards the “youth”
@@samsno3667 so true. Funny story a company actually gave me a electric stand scooter to test and after a year of riding it. It got swiped by the locals. Took it right out of the bike lock.
I have the Metacyle, the Insurance for E-scooters is up the roof !!!! one is better off getting an gas powered scooter which has very cheap insurance. Remember boys and girls, one thing to pay for something expensive one time, but the recurring expense is what eats up your wallet. You pay off 8 grand, good for you, but if you have to pay constant high rate on insurance, forget it.....
It needs to drop to like 4 to 5 k before anyone would be interested . It is cool looking but the lack of range and also would like to know about the waterproofing. I like the electric direction but with having less mechanical components like the gas vehicles it should cost less not more.
Short range, hard to load, low speed, one seat, no storage for helmet, expensive... ...all influencers love it! Maybe BMW should have invested less in advertisement and more in product management?
This is perfect to go to the grocery store and gym in your part of town! Plus it's stylish and not crazy amounts of power. In the US there is a gap between 100 to 200 cc non sport bikes.
Top speed of 59 mph and how long is that sustained and how heavy can the person be? does it still go 59 mph if you weigh 230 pounds compared to weigh in 175 pounds. Ill keep my Honda Grom.
Seeing as modern EUCs and electric kick scooters can outperform this in both speed and range, as well as be half the price, not really sure who this would be for. Someone wanting micro mobility would go for an EUC, ESkate, or Scooter. Someone who wants a bit more motorcycle feel and performance would just get a motorcycle. I guess it makes sense why BMW has fought hard to make PEVs illegal in Germany. Wish they'd just switch focus and compete with the manufacturers making what many consumers are already switching too. I'd love a German engineered EUC with an integrated HUD in my helmet.
These youths might be better off getting a used BMW G310 variant for about a 3rd of the price. Or, if I've got 8 grand to buy something with a BMW logo to increase my cool factor, I'm going used R9T.
The R9T will have lower insurance than any EV Motorcycle/Scooter, the US is not yet ready for EV Motorcycle/EV due, for some reason the Insurance on anything EV is 3 times that of a regular gas powered vehicle. I have the cheap Metacycle, the insurance is up the roooooooof !!!!
Price? Starting at £7,450 the CE 02 is far from cheap but pricing in the electric motorcycle market is still all over the place - so while it's ... Pros and cons: 55-mile range is disappointing ⋅ Lacks some of the storage practicality of convention scooters
Ola is selling similar powered scooters in India for $2.2k. Certainly the quality isn’t on par with the BMW, but a reasonable price structure will attract Gen Z buyers. Otherwise BMW motorcycles will continue to be a brand for Boomers
I have the Ola top end model and we got ours for 1300$ after electric subsidy. For this to add sales number, BMW india either need to manufacture it locally to bring the costs down and still find a way to price it around 2400$ max.
Have you seen the modern Electric Kick Scooters or EUCs? For about 1/2 the price you can get both more milage and more range. For around a 1/4 of the price you can get similar specs, and a lot more mobility. I take mine on both local trails as well as on the road, and when I go to work it just slips under my desk.
@@michielx922 for price and performance absolutely. The person mentioned the BMW might be good for local travel needs, right now you can get 40+ miles of range at 30mph for $1200, which for most local needs is plenty. Also in a much more convenient package. Then for a about $4000 you can get one that would outperform the BMW in speed, range, and portability. So yeah, BMW should be able to do better that just relying on their name value.
@@TerraMagnus so which one is better? The G310 was boring at first. After a few miles I started to appreciate it and learned the power band. Then it was a lot of fun! My 23 S1000RR was getting serviced.
That'd actually be super handy for work, I work in the countryside 25km from home with some really nice roads. As long as I can make it over and back I can do all the charging in work for free.
I absolutely love it in every way. And honestly, the price isn’t that bad either for considering the other scooter and motorcycle price options out there. This model comes to under £9500 at its highest range so that’s pretty good if you’ve got a little bit of spare money in the pocket, even if you are among the younger generation. I for one night actually save up some money to eventually get this.
Are you high ? 9.5k for youth? Maybe those that slang crack, for normal kids this is way too expensive. It's not worth it and it looks bad too. And they don't call I a scooter, but it is
@@donciclazae1200 Are YOU high? BMW isn't positioning this for the mass market. It knows its demographic and it's still a luxury brand first and foremost.
"The price isn't that bad either for considering the other scooter and motorcycle options out there" have you actually looked into this? dude you can get TWO BRAND NEW FULL SIZE reliable HONDA XR150 dual sport motorcycles for less than this 30mph SCOOTER... or how about a 75hp naked Yamaha MT07 starts at 8 grand... 9 grand is absolutely absurd and only BMW would try and charge this price.
Good idea not calling it a "scooter" for search results sake. If you search "scooter" these days all you get are the stand-on ones. There is an unintended search bias toward those. Just try exploring a new ["registerable"] scooter you don't know the name of. Good luck.
Good point, especially since there are several stand up E Scooters that outperform this BMW for half the price. My $3000 EUC beats it on range, and can go the speed limit everywhere in my town.
That's nearly $10k including tax, reg, dealer, etc. for an eBike to ride around the city to see your friend as he says. Probably depreciates 50% after the first day. Who at BMW Motor was responsible for this very bad strategy?
I m looking for a real powerful 4WD Cross Tesla car with supercharging option in a shape of a motorcycle for 2 people so I can park everywhere in the center of the cities.
You can get a Honda Navi for $1800 brand new that is about as environmentally friendly that takes literally 15 seconds at any gas station to go from empty to another 100 miles. It's also dirt cheap to maintain. If this BMW is for the 'youths' it makes no sense. What youth has the money for this? This is for the person that spends 8k on an electric scooter so they can tell everyone they spent 8k for an electric scooter.
Parking is a issue in London + In London you don't get stuck in traffic if you have a 2 wheeler. This product is possibly targeted at Europe markets. Not trying to upset anyone with my commentary.
If you live in the center of a major American city and work as a software engineer, I can see how this would be a practical vehicle. Other than this specificied demographic, I don’t see the point of this silly little expensive scooter…
You surely meant power output levels and not battery pack sizes. 4KW output is the electric equivalent to 50cc's in the US and often doesn't require a motorcycle license. There is zero chance a bike this small will have a 11KWH battery pack. 11kw of power output however sounds about right got a 50-something mph top speed bike.
Dear god, please stop letting 70 year old men run around thinking they know what appeals to a 17 year old boy because they still have some Buck Rogers comics in the attic
Far too expensive. My son has started to ride and he has a quality second hand Honda 125, ca £1500. Can do 60 mph, fine for commuting to work out of town, which he does, and with such frugal fuel consumption it is hardly any worse on the environment. We have a drive, but no worries about installing charging equipment. I just cannot see how this bike can a success. If you do happen to have £9000 buy a quality small second hand car.
Exactly! It's either foot-pegs or skateboard, you can't have them both! Look at the picture when the skateboard is in there are no foot pegs mounted. Interesting...😎
The onyx motorbikes, super 73 Ariel Rider have been having better stats and friendlier price with aftermarket support already to improve range and power etc. Honda with the compacto and this from bmw are a let down they gotta catch up
Smart glasses? Granted, I'm not in their demographic, but I've been wearing glasses since my 20s I think so ...there's that. And it's a scooter. Young/old, we're not stupid. At 8 ....perhaps 10k out the door what youngster can afford that? Well, not the average young person that's for sure. They are better off buying the G310R or a Vespa for that matter.
Suzuki street magic with 180cc 2 stroke engine would be faster cheaper en way easier to use just put gas in it en drive cost would be around 1500-3000 euro
Indeed, BMW made a e-bike target at teens and young adults because I do remember the good times during my teen years and youth as a student having thousands of dollars to spend on useless crap. Get real BMW motard, if youre not a joke already.
For 8k with such a pitiful range and no removable battery or level 2 charger this is going to be a hard sell. Super Soco, Black Tea and various modern brands make cheaper, better bikes than this.
BMW:
“How do you do, fellow kids!”
It needs to be cheaper and lighter for it to be a success. Being able to carry it inside would be a huge plus for urban travel especially toward youths with no garage space
I think the batteries are removable, so you can pick them up and charge them at home
At this speed and range, BMW should be exploring high-powered Stand-on motorbikes (E-Scooters), which are far more compact and just as powerful, making them ideal for those who live in smaller spaces.
It is cheaper as TVS Motors makes them here in India (this is Joint Project Development between both of them), but BMW being BMW priced it stupidly!
If you have $8k in the US and are young, you are probably going to buy a used car instead.
Nope, not at all.
CE 02 costs 4K CE 04 costs twice as much
If you live in the center of a major American city and work as a software engineer, I can see how this would’ve a practical vehicle. Other than this specificity demographic, I don’t see the point of this silly little expensive scooter…
with 8 grand, you can literally buy a Honda Navi, Honda Grom, AND have change left over for a helmet & gear
@@infam0usP not to mention those get like 100+miles to the gallon…
when it has nothing to do with parkour, marketing just had to name it that.
55 mile range and a price starting around $8k is going to be a hard sell. How many youth will have $8-$9k to purchase this? I like the idea though.
It’s all about the monthlies.
The youth is going to buy a cheap 2nd hand motorcycle or scooter and the wealthier ones are going to get a car as a gift along with their license by their parents so the market for this thing is nearly non existent and another problem is that since it looks cool , has good quality peripherals and is small it screams "steal me".
When I was in high school, kids already driving BMW cars to school, this is priced like a toy.
Remember, its just a toy.
For fun only, not for touring
rich kids
Somebody PLEASE talk to the design team !
How is this targeted for youth at 8k?
The forks in the stock footage are different angle than the one he's sitting on
Man I’m a 20 year old 3rd year nursing student in Washington, DC. This would so perfect to ride in the city to my clinical sites. But nope too busy paying the school. So I don’t count towards the “youth”
and you'll get scooterJacked in DC .. ehh... finish school and get out of DC and then buy one.
@@samsno3667 so true. Funny story a company actually gave me a electric stand scooter to test and after a year of riding it. It got swiped by the locals. Took it right out of the bike lock.
I have the Metacyle, the Insurance for E-scooters is up the roof !!!! one is better off getting an gas powered scooter which has very cheap insurance. Remember boys and girls, one thing to pay for something expensive one time, but the recurring expense is what eats up your wallet. You pay off 8 grand, good for you, but if you have to pay constant high rate on insurance, forget it.....
How come insurance is cheaper on gas?
Is the battery detachable?
I want to know about the skateboard which awesomely looks like it's being used as rider pegs at 0:46
It needs to drop to like 4 to 5 k before anyone would be interested . It is cool looking but the lack of range and also would like to know about the waterproofing. I like the electric direction but with having less mechanical components like the gas vehicles it should cost less not more.
Short range, hard to load, low speed, one seat, no storage for helmet, expensive...
...all influencers love it!
Maybe BMW should have invested less in advertisement and more in product management?
This is perfect to go to the grocery store and gym in your part of town! Plus it's stylish and not crazy amounts of power. In the US there is a gap between 100 to 200 cc non sport bikes.
Nice review video, keeping up the good work🔥🔥👍
Top speed of 59 mph and how long is that sustained and how heavy can the person be? does it still go 59 mph if you weigh 230 pounds compared to weigh in 175 pounds. Ill keep my Honda Grom.
1:53 is that skateboard electric?
At this performance level it's better to have the motor in the rear wheel. More room for cargo/battery and no belt.
love this bike. I'm 50 and want one now to doss around on.
Those wheels look like they were sourced from Harbor Freight.
Seeing as modern EUCs and electric kick scooters can outperform this in both speed and range, as well as be half the price, not really sure who this would be for. Someone wanting micro mobility would go for an EUC, ESkate, or Scooter. Someone who wants a bit more motorcycle feel and performance would just get a motorcycle.
I guess it makes sense why BMW has fought hard to make PEVs illegal in Germany. Wish they'd just switch focus and compete with the manufacturers making what many consumers are already switching too.
I'd love a German engineered EUC with an integrated HUD in my helmet.
3:04 ... available ... where in spring of 2024??????????/
Also aimed at adults in Europe. 11Kw version side bag for commuting to the office and grocery store.
I knew these major car companies were going to get in on the E Scooter thing.
Ok. How much?
From 12k in canada, Ridiculous...
Mixing motor power with battery capacity?
These youths might be better off getting a used BMW G310 variant for about a 3rd of the price. Or, if I've got 8 grand to buy something with a BMW logo to increase my cool factor, I'm going used R9T.
The R9T will have lower insurance than any EV Motorcycle/Scooter, the US is not yet ready for EV Motorcycle/EV due, for some reason the Insurance on anything EV is 3 times that of a regular gas powered vehicle. I have the cheap Metacycle, the insurance is up the roooooooof !!!!
For 55 miles range and at that price, you are better getting an electric bike
8+k to get maybe 50 miles going to places that cannot accompdate charging. this only makes sense in the city if the battery can be removed.
The switch of headlight design killed it for me. Was soooo looking forward to it.
9.5k for a scooter intended for the youth is crazy
That price alone will be the reason why many people won’t buy this bike.
Price?
Starting at £7,450 the CE 02 is far from cheap but pricing in the electric motorcycle market is still all over the place - so while it's ...
Pros and cons: 55-mile range is disappointing ⋅ Lacks some of the storage practicality of convention scooters
Ola is selling similar powered scooters in India for $2.2k. Certainly the quality isn’t on par with the BMW, but a reasonable price structure will attract Gen Z buyers. Otherwise BMW motorcycles will continue to be a brand for Boomers
I have the Ola top end model and we got ours for 1300$ after electric subsidy. For this to add sales number, BMW india either need to manufacture it locally to bring the costs down and still find a way to price it around 2400$ max.
I would seriously consider buying one of these scooters.
It would suit my local travel needs perfectly.
Have you seen the modern Electric Kick Scooters or EUCs? For about 1/2 the price you can get both more milage and more range. For around a 1/4 of the price you can get similar specs, and a lot more mobility. I take mine on both local trails as well as on the road, and when I go to work it just slips under my desk.
You are comparing a BMW to a kick scooter? 😂 @@c4ristopher
@@michielx922 for price and performance absolutely. The person mentioned the BMW might be good for local travel needs, right now you can get 40+ miles of range at 30mph for $1200, which for most local needs is plenty. Also in a much more convenient package. Then for a about $4000 you can get one that would outperform the BMW in speed, range, and portability. So yeah, BMW should be able to do better that just relying on their name value.
Can I get a discount? I am student and unfortunately not hip und rich
I’m 37. Is it bad that I’m seriously considering buying this thing?
Price?
the price is crazee
I’m going to get one! I been bugging BMW about something comparable to the Grom but the closest thing they have is the G310.
Ha, yeah, the G310 is not even comparable to a Grom.
@@TerraMagnus so which one is better? The G310 was boring at first. After a few miles I started to appreciate it and learned the power band. Then it was a lot of fun! My 23 S1000RR was getting serviced.
@@DrDisasta G310GS could literally be my only bike forever and it could do anything ok. Grom is a fun toy for screwing around. Incomparable.
That'd actually be super handy for work, I work in the countryside 25km from home with some really nice roads. As long as I can make it over and back I can do all the charging in work for free.
50 miles is not enough sir..
I absolutely love it in every way. And honestly, the price isn’t that bad either for considering the other scooter and motorcycle price options out there. This model comes to under £9500 at its highest range so that’s pretty good if you’ve got a little bit of spare money in the pocket, even if you are among the younger generation. I for one night actually save up some money to eventually get this.
Are you high ? 9.5k for youth? Maybe those that slang crack, for normal kids this is way too expensive. It's not worth it and it looks bad too. And they don't call I a scooter, but it is
@@donciclazae1200 Are YOU high? BMW isn't positioning this for the mass market. It knows its demographic and it's still a luxury brand first and foremost.
"The price isn't that bad either for considering the other scooter and motorcycle options out there" have you actually looked into this? dude you can get TWO BRAND NEW FULL SIZE reliable HONDA XR150 dual sport motorcycles for less than this 30mph SCOOTER... or how about a 75hp naked Yamaha MT07 starts at 8 grand... 9 grand is absolutely absurd and only BMW would try and charge this price.
And it will cost around ....?!
Good idea not calling it a "scooter" for search results sake. If you search "scooter" these days all you get are the stand-on ones. There is an unintended search bias toward those. Just try exploring a new ["registerable"] scooter you don't know the name of. Good luck.
Good point, especially since there are several stand up E Scooters that outperform this BMW for half the price. My $3000 EUC beats it on range, and can go the speed limit everywhere in my town.
That's nearly $10k including tax, reg, dealer, etc. for an eBike to ride around the city to see your friend as he says. Probably depreciates 50% after the first day. Who at BMW Motor was responsible for this very bad strategy?
บริษัทรุ่นนี้นี่ขอกดราคาลงหน่อยนะรุ่นเก่าเปิดตัว 850.000 บาทค่าไฟเมืองไทยมันแพงหรือยัง
No level 2 charging? What‘s wrong with BMW?!? Do they know what a flat is? 🙈
how out of touch with reality marketing department in BMW is... but considering recent designs- very
I m looking for a real powerful 4WD Cross Tesla car with supercharging option in a shape of a motorcycle for 2 people so I can park everywhere in the center of the cities.
I’m 37 and can’t afford that. A Honda Trail 125 or Ruckus is cheaper and I can’t afford those either
You can get a Honda Navi for $1800 brand new that is about as environmentally friendly that takes literally 15 seconds at any gas station to go from empty to another 100 miles. It's also dirt cheap to maintain. If this BMW is for the 'youths' it makes no sense. What youth has the money for this?
This is for the person that spends 8k on an electric scooter so they can tell everyone they spent 8k for an electric scooter.
I seen the skateboard and was sold
So, will this thing burst into flames some night in your garage like all those electric cars?
Parking is a issue in London + In London you don't get stuck in traffic if you have a 2 wheeler. This product is possibly targeted at Europe markets. Not trying to upset anyone with my commentary.
Double seat will be benefited, because a friend/ some goods may need to carry .......
If you live in the center of a major American city and work as a software engineer, I can see how this would be a practical vehicle. Other than this specificied demographic, I don’t see the point of this silly little expensive scooter…
It would be good for youths if they had money, because the company price it as premium.
Probably 10k for this bike
We have Lunaa Bike in India. 😅
They should have called it a joke 😂
It is made by TVS in India, but still expensive 😦😦.
You surely meant power output levels and not battery pack sizes. 4KW output is the electric equivalent to 50cc's in the US and often doesn't require a motorcycle license. There is zero chance a bike this small will have a 11KWH battery pack. 11kw of power output however sounds about right got a 50-something mph top speed bike.
this is waaaaay too expensive if they are aiming it for young people lol
You lost me at, "it uses the same app..."
Dear god, please stop letting 70 year old men run around thinking they know what appeals to a 17 year old boy because they still have some Buck Rogers comics in the attic
bmw is going full cyberpunk and I love it, however why does it cost so much who can even buy these
TVS is gonna make it in India. But I think people are not gonna buy it because of its price and design 😅
Get the sondor megacycle for cheaper
No get a talaria X3
Far too expensive. My son has started to ride and he has a quality second hand Honda 125, ca £1500. Can do 60 mph, fine for commuting to work out of town, which he does, and with such frugal fuel consumption it is hardly any worse on the environment. We have a drive, but no worries about installing charging equipment. I just cannot see how this bike can a success. If you do happen to have £9000 buy a quality small second hand car.
„aimed at the youths“ serious contender for joke of the year
so are we not goin to address the BMW skateboard!?
Exactly! It's either foot-pegs or skateboard, you can't have them both! Look at the picture when the skateboard is in there are no foot pegs mounted. Interesting...😎
When they can't sell their ebikes to parents they trying to convince their kids
If ever there was a case of style over substance this has got to be it. BMW has gone bonkers.
Generational wealth mobile for young teens
The onyx motorbikes, super 73 Ariel Rider have been having better stats and friendlier price with aftermarket support already to improve range and power etc. Honda with the compacto and this from bmw are a let down they gotta catch up
Smart glasses? Granted, I'm not in their demographic, but I've been wearing glasses since my 20s I think so ...there's that.
And it's a scooter. Young/old, we're not stupid. At 8 ....perhaps 10k out the door what youngster can afford that? Well, not the average young person that's for sure. They are better off buying the G310R or a Vespa for that matter.
An eParkourer... i'm weak.
14.7 bhp
Super rich kids with nothing but loose ends
What, “younger buyer” can afford $8k LOL!???? Is this for rich people???
Might be the worst scooter for sale in 2024. 9k??? What were they thinking? Oh yeah, its BMW...
This bike is absolutely pathetic at this price, total garbage.... Get a eMTB or a 125cc gas scooter for city commuting...
This should be aimed at a brick wall. The impact will improve the looks.
I foresee these all over San Francisco
if they get parked on the street they are just gonna get yoinked instantly
Suzuki street magic with 180cc 2 stroke engine would be faster cheaper en way easier to use just put gas in it en drive cost would be around 1500-3000 euro
Indeed, BMW made a e-bike target at teens and young adults because I do remember the good times during my teen years and youth as a student having thousands of dollars to spend on useless crap. Get real BMW motard, if youre not a joke already.
Talk about the other electric bike behind you
It is the old ev scooter, goes about 80 mph.
Too much 2500 3k these would have sold like hot cakes
You're not going to get an electric for that price.
try ola s1 pro at less than 2000$ and faster than this.
Should’ve made it CAFE 😢
This ain’t for the youth lol they are priced like a Yamaha R3 So… maybe if they were like $3000dlls I would buy one
It’s not worth it for price, size, features and performance. Your better off getting a motorcycle or scooter.
There are dozens of alternatives to this thing, at a fraction of the price. BMW has lost the plot.
Looks like it’s a drop not a cop
u can buy very good motorbike with that kind of money.
For 8k with such a pitiful range and no removable battery or level 2 charger this is going to be a hard sell. Super Soco, Black Tea and various modern brands make cheaper, better bikes than this.
a bicycle makes more sense
keren BMW unik
90 km is NOT enough for anything.
Those "smart" glasses will never be released just like the smart jacket didn't and the helmet with a HUD. More empty promises from BMW.