SPOOFING IS RAMPANT in Pokémon GO!! And It's Niantic's fault!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Ever since Niantic decided to nerf Remote Raid Passes, a controversial and divisive aspect of Pokémon GO has made a resurgence. This is definitely something we need to talk about!
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I don't care if they spoof and besides Niantic can't stop them. All I would say is if you spoof don't be an ass over Gyms. That player might really need it and you can go anywhere so let them have it.
Agreed. Especially in NYC, the gyms there are super competitive even at 12:00 am with all the spoofers.
Or how about bragging how you get 5 shundos and 5 hundos during Community Day? Just spoof and keep it to yourself.
That's the only way I have been noticing the spoofing, is jerks taking over Gyms in my area that aren't any of the players that are normally there.
@@alexismerrilldragonqueen6552 yeah we have that problem here too. It's usually people who are on team valor. It really sucks because I can't get out all the time due to being disabled. So them taking a gym close to me when there are other ones around the city is irritating
Same. I don’t care if people spoof either, but as you said just don’t take down gyms
I’ve been disabled for 3 years now and not left the house for just over 2 of those years.
After the remote nerf, I started spoofing and it’s been brilliant.
I know the risks, if I’m banned, I will start again.
However. I stick to my local community area. Never spoof for regionals or events etc, I’m apart of groups and am welcomed, even receive messages asking if I’m around to help with raids.
My life due to disability SUCKS. Pogo creates a great escape and passing of the time for me, if that upsets some suits at Niantic, I don’t care, live like me for 1 month and experience what I do and then they would make spoofing part of the game permanently.
I hear you. I’m disabled as well & it really sucks.
It sounds like those that are abusing spoofing are ruining it for those who play fair and benefit like you.
@@kiminclw1664 I could play legit I would, but I require assistance to play the game. I don’t live in a big city so even on the weekends it’s difficult to go out & raid.
What do you use to do so? I would really like to enjoy this game again..
What do u use
Ill be honest, I dont blame them. Many of the newer spoofers are those who have basically been shut out by Niantic thanks to their insistence on "go out or dont play"
Agreed, I feel like most are rural or people with no local community that now spoof
From what I've seen it seems like it's so easy to do anyone with a second phone and account is probably doing it.
I live on a 75 acre college campus in a city. No spawns on the premises for 6 months now. No big clusters of spawns/stops within 15 minutes any direction. So if I want to do actually play, I have to travel at least a half hour to just to play. Spoofers= push a couple buttons and play anywhere. Me push a few buttons and go nowhere. I see the spoof incentive 100% but won't.
Well.. that’s the point of the game. To go out into the real world, socialize. Jeez.
@@finalboss1015what app are you using to?
The only negative outlook I have on spoofing is when they multiple accounts and take up the entire gym at my local park. Other than that, I think most of them affect the game in a positive way. Most of the elite raids I was the only person physically at the location, I wouldn't have been successful if not for the 5 to 6 spoofers.
But the issue is that it gives a false image of the reality to Niantic, for them there is a good enough comunity to keep on with the physical only raid because of the spoofers. if spoofer where not there then the impact would have been greater and so would have been the feedback they received so they might have change their policy.
So no the spoofer are not a good thing to the game.
@kayru117 agreed, I'm just pointing out a few of the pros and cons.
Exactly my sentiments.
Yeas fr with the raid but not only that the passes help with raids but where is Freon not many ppl play or idk ppl who play an it sucks 🤣
@@kayru117i come from a town were playing a raid is pointless unless its 2stars or less, bc there is never anyone to join with around. So buying passes would be a waste of money, but bc I can spoof, im willing to buy raid passes to play the game in a more populated area. So is actually a win for nantic.
Spoofing was inevitable as soon as they had region locked Pokemon.
I can't afford to go overseas for the sake of a Pokemon.
I have a second account that I spoof from, then trade to whoever wants the Pokemon.
I've done it to help catch legendarys after the nerf too.
I was quite happy spending a bit of money here and there for remote raids, but I'll just spoof a free daily instead now.
Bro what spoofing app do u use
@@Esssupp I use MuMu (android emulator) on my pc and pgsharp on a completely separate account.
@@iamimiPodhow good is mumu? And is pgsharp even good?
do you have a spare mewtwo im trynna get this shiny mew if you have a spare one that be lit
@@Trippy_X_DUI mewtwo be coming back to raids soon just had legendary birds that always come first
Who wants to get out when it's raining, snowing, when it's bitter cold, or blazing hot? Spoofing helps
I used to really dislike spoofers. But after the remote raid pass nerfs, sometimes playing with spoofers is the only way I'm going to be able to have enough trainers to defeat a raid boss. I *still* haven't been able to raid Shadow Articuno, for example. My experience has been, as I and MANY others predicted, that the rules followers were going to have a more difficult time getting the numbers to defeat raid bosses. Niantic setting Shadow raids to "in person only" was really a slap in the face after the nerf.
We need spoofers. They help us get through the harder raids. It's worth it to me if they took my lame shiny or hundo. Niantics don't care about legit players so let them do their thing and we can do ours. 🙂
I’m sure if you join a community and posted your raid coordinates we’d absolutely help you finally get your shadow articuno
I can’t even raid now unless I buy a remote raid pass
@@mikhaildennis1014 I'm frustrated because I can't raid the in person only stuff because I can't get enough people, in person, while stuff is going on.
@@mikhaildennis1014me neither
As long as you don't camp gyms I can't be mad at spoofers. I'm heavily considering starting given that Niantic endlessly punishes rural players.
I can't stand gym spoofers.
Spoofers go ANYWHERE in the world. They don't need to camp your gym. I have a bunch of cemeteries and small towns in areas that never have more than 2 or 3 pokemon in their gyms. The majority of gyms outside of big cities are empty. I can put 5 pokemon in half empty gyms in about 10 minutes.
@@PervertedPodcast oh yeah just to be clear I was mostly addressing what I see as the main criticism of spoofers. I live in such a tiny pogo town that I had to make a second account just to kick myself out of gyms so that I can get coins.
@@mckinleyostvig7135 I play with my 2 cousins. Me and one of my cousin is in Mystic, so we had to trick my 2nd cousin to choose Instinct, so that we have someone to kick our Pokemons out of the gyms. And now after 3 years, he actually loves being an instinct. 😂😂😂😂😂
No, people spoof because they can’t go out every day especially given the gas prices right now. They should be allowed to play however they want and that includes camping gyms as they would if they weren’t spoofing.
If Niantic wants to force people to play a certain way while ignoring players who play within the rules, purely because it is more profitable for the company, then they deserve every cheater, spoofer, hacker, and data miner working against them as possible. Honestly the worst element of ftp or service based games is the idea that players never really own any part of it. Without people finding ways to break the system, it would definitely squeeze everyone for money and data even more.
Yeah the whole system they have is not right imo 🤷🏽♂️
Im working 2 jobs, i don't have time to go to every raid in my local community, spoofing allows me to still help out and feel connected. Along with get resources to better help. I still go out and play on any important day where im not working
At least you have a local community. There's literally not enough people in my entire town with accounts to beat a 5 star raid.
Yeah I honestly feel using spoofing to walk to a location in your local area isn’t that big of a deal. It’s people that teleport all over the world and use tools to auto walk, and auto check for shinies and IVs that’s the bigger issue.
If you don’t mind, which app do you use? I’m not able to go out and play as I used to anymore due to the fact that I don’t have a car to be driving around and I recently injured my left knee. I want to give it a try to spoofing but I don’t know how to start
Do you know a video on how to spoof on iOS, I tried some videos but none worked.
@@splick718I recommend watching Olly pokemon go. He makes bunch of spoofing tutorials and live streams every week
spoofing has never been more popular than it is now and i can’t say i blame anyone who does by how niantic has ruined this game
It's necessary for rural players
Yeah I started playing again by spoofing since niantic wanted to play unfair then so will I. They needed remote raids without even saying one thing about it until they got caught. Until niantic plays fair with the community I will continue pushing forward for spoofing in any way, shape, or form. If we as the community don’t take a stand then a change will never be made. Remember we make this game what it is not niantic. They have nothing without this community.
Yo what apps do u use to spoof
@@Esssupppgsharp for android. iPogo for iOS. But Pgsharp is better
I'm not going to lie I'm strongly considering opening a new account to spoof because of the increase in price and the limit in remote raids I'm bored at work and can't kill my boredom because of the limit and increases
Do it, I have no regrets the game is heaps more fun not being at the mercy of Niantic. I wouldn't even bother opening a new account either, worst-case scenario is you'll get a 7 day ban, if so just stop then.
Do you know how to get spoofed version cause I am lost trying to look for it
@brianlem5313 unfortunately not but there is always TH-cam
im considering it because im not crossing a highway, a busy a** street, AND train tracks just to get a few pokeballs
What if they created a “travel” pass where people can “fly” to other locations/countries a given number of times a year and be able to spend a couple hours in such locations? That be pretty cool I think. What do y’all think?
Dream on...
And how are you supposed to walk?
@@zebare726i would assume they would give you a temporary joystick, would be no point implementing an idea like this into a game, just for it not to be fully thought through.
Their not stupid
Lol as if they would 😂😂 that's basically paid spoofing for few hours .... They may do it if niantic gets bankrupt
@ibadushakhan that's the point... but its paid, so it's not spoofing if they charge you for it. They could call it TM FLY, like from the original DS games.
The worst part of the remote raid nerf was the price increase. At least for me it killed it, before I used to do up to 9 raids of the same boss because I didn't want to spend that much for a game. If they kept the raid limit with old price I believe that should help something at least. Imagine living on a small country that doesn't have that many players or a community at all. I have missed a lot of key raid bosses because of that. Spoofing would have given me access to other locations and player that are willing to help to defeat the boss even if it is because of grid.
It’s hard for some players to play only locally, not enough players or have time to go around locally. It also takes quite a bit of gas to go to each local raid where you can find people. Campfire was a nice addition but not enough
The gas is really killing me. I feel like I have to put in about $10 a day just for pokemon go when a person can spoof for $5 a month and get a ton of QoL benefits.
@@drjjloveman honestly, doing more than 1 local raid a day just goes in gas. If you drive a car that just sucks up gas too just rip
After the first couple years of the game, I stopped playing essentially as there was no way to tackle or participate in major aspects of the game with the limited amount of local players (like I might have been lucky to get enough people local at a 5star raid once a week); I honestly only came back when a friend introduced me to spoofing. With the introduction of remote raiding I 100% stopped spoofing and have not since. Proof enough that players are willing to pay (supporting the game) and play legit when a well balanced system is in place. What we have now is NOT balanced.
I frankly found the best remote raid experience was still when we were getting our free pass once a week. I was never as engaged with other players as during that time… I coordinated to help my friends across the city while we participated in the raids local to ourselves. It was perfection.
Currently super upset by the current state of the game and absolutely understand why people are moving back to or starting to spoof.
I had a friend who was a spoofer, and when I asked him why he spoofed he said there was no incentive to play & being able to be a rebel was much more fun. 👍
How can you spoof? I’ve been trying to find something for months
@@brian.3688 I’ve no idea. Spoofing never interested me so I didn’t bother with it. I will never dis someone for spoofing as it’s their game & they play it how they like & no one should tell anyone how to play someone else’s game.
@@jasonhumphries9434I completely agree with you. If someone wants to play their way, it’s fine in my opinion
Don’t worry. When you cheat a game and have everything given to you with no effort for free then the achievements mean nothing. And cheaters will just quit after a short while when they get bored.
Not happy at all with spoofing on the rise... Niantic had the perfect solution, and they nerfed it.
I was contemplating spoofing for a long time, and after the raid pass nerf, I finally decided to do it. I used to hate spoofers but… it really is fun to spoof. Being a rural player, spoofing is the only way I enjoy the game, and it allows me to do raids that I would never have been able to do or catch special pokemon that I would never have been able to find.
Feels dirty.
How do you do it out of interest. Brother is asking 😂
@@Ditronus. Like po**, but people still do it, even pay for it!
as long as you don't ruin other people's experience by gym hogging, do it to your heart's content.
Spoofing can be good, after all there's good spoofers, like the ones who help out with raids, but then there's the gym hoggers and ones (which have been very common in my area and are a big problem) who use spoofing as a way to harrass other players, I've literally had spoofers attack gyms where I left pokemon just to kick my pokemon out of the gym, they leave others' pokemon in there, but mine, in their stupid defective brains, are not allowed, there's literally spoofers who use gyms to bully other players, and trust me guys, this is not just to me, I've had other players in my area suffer from this, and I don't see it being documented, but from experience, it's a real issue.
What Niantic needs to do, is make not just something that convinces people not to spoof but harsher punishment for something like gym hogging and other abusive behavior like what I already mentioned.
Now I know some people are gonna reply to my comment be like "No idiot, Niantic ruined remote raiding for us, we will spoof as much as we want.", yeah you can spoof but that doesn't give you the right to be a bully to other players, especially to those who don't spoof, the world doesn't revolve around you or your wishes, bud.
I am indifferent on spoofing. Mainly becaue I cant stand PvP, and will only do it if required. I will delete any field research for it. If i have a paid quest i will do it only if i have to the level 43 quest where it was all pvp, i just did a friend battle to clear it all took forever! But, enough with that tangent. Spoofing will never go away. Even if you put strick log on requirements, it will never go away. The best bet, is do restrict raids in general, give a 5-10 limit to in person raids, and you will see it go away. But if thats the case no one will play in bigger cities. Best thing to stop Spoofing is to make a Raid check in system, and make an algorithm to monitor raid types, and where people are.
I’m shocked Niantic hasn’t made a premium subscription service where people can pay to spoof legally. It would help a lot of rural players out and put the money into Niantics pocket. I don’t have an issue with spoofers since they help with raiding as long as they don’t load gyms down. The truth of the matter is if Niantic gets rid of spoofers it is going to affect the money they take in. When they buckled down on ipogo and pgsharp and made bans not just in waves but permanent they lost a lot of players. Gyms with a ton of people raiding prior would be almost empty and I know they lost players because right after they cracked down on spoofing the box prices went up and they released rare 1 encounter per account costume pokemon that had the potential to be shiny. That led to people opening multiple accounts to try to get a shiny of rare costume pokemon and it made it appear that pokemon go was getting a ton of new players. Then once they nerfed remote raids to 5 a day they made more players angry and people started to look into spoofing again when they had not been. Idk, I still say if they get rid of spoofers completely it will kill Pokémon go.
I am a spoofer, living in a town of 2,000 inhabitants and two gyms. How do you play a game if you don't even have anyone to help you with the gyms? Let's say that spoofing helps to some extent, as you can find Pokémon with perfect IVs and many shinies. However, these remain only for you since few people in your town play the game, and you end up with a private collection that only you look at. As for the gyms, I don't see where the problem lies with spoofers. Even if I put a Pokémon with 100% IVs or a Pokémon with 0% the next day (after 8 hours), their CP has dropped almost to zero, and with one or two battles, you can take over the gym without any effort. Let's talk about PvP. In the past, I played a lot of PvP with perfect IVs on any Pokémon, and let's say that it's still difficult to win, considering that spoofing only accounts for about 10%, 30% is internet connection, and 60% is the player's skill and strategy. It's pointless to have a Grass-type Pokémon against a Fire-type and expect to win without considering swap management. I also take into account the connection because a perfect Pokémon for the Great League (1/15/15) against a regular Pokémon (7/13/14) doesn't change much. I can confirm this because I've had battles with friends, and the one with the better connection would win, as the energy charge for the charged move changes by a few milliseconds. Of course, if you're a spoofer with an excellent connection, you have a higher chance of winning. I've lost many times against people with Pokémon with terrible IVs, but they were better than me at managing swaps and charged moves. To sum it up, in my opinion, spoofing only provides an advantage for a nice collection of rare Pokémon and for eggs (autowalk), but it has little impact on the overall game quality for others. Of course, in this discussion, I always exclude toxic players. I would avoid saying that spoofing ruins the gaming experience; on the contrary, it enhances it because you can have Pokémon that you can't afford, or you can find the Pokémon you like. And obviously, having the freedom to move around and go wherever you want, you're also willing to invest some money gladly. So, Niantic benefits from this. For example, imagine a community day 5,000 km away. I can easily buy the ticket and participate from home, enjoying myself just like people who have money to pay for an airplane ticket or who live there. In short, if I were Niantic, I wouldn't worry about spoofers because they can be a source of profit for them. Instead, I would focus on improving the gaming experience for everyone.
Shoutout to the spoofers that helped me in the shadow raids
I spoof and honestly I'm really enjoying playing the game in my own safe space and time
Yes, I can play with flexibility, useful when you have family and commitments.
Lmk when u get banned
I've made peace with my account long ago... if it dies dies !
Tried spoofing and nothing was on the map.
Love your realistic and objective approach to pokemon go and niantic related matters.
we didnt call them spoofers we called them "Sky Support"
I don't mind spoofers, so if someone spoofs and wants to trade me a regional or 2 that I don't have lets do this. However, if you use just to dominate gyms that can be annoying for people that live there and want to play fair. Just don't be a jerk about gym control and otherwise have fun.
Not going to lie, as a father of 4 that works 60-65 hours a week, I've been leaning on remote raid passes to get most of my legendaries through the pandemic. Now that we have to pay so much to only raid 5 times a day, I've been seriously considering GPS spoofing to raid when I get home of the evenings.
I'm not spending a cent on the game until I get the time to figure out how to spoof my GPS and get away with it.
Pgsharp
easy wait 2 hours between teleporting.
Theuly should add a joystick that can go within like a block of your location. That would be a huge help for rural players
just spoof if you are from the rural area.
Niantic has a 3 flag system as of last summer
1. is a simple warning
2. 30 day ban
3. deletion of the Account if third party software is found
- they must of found a way around the system be still spoofing
that's precisely what they do, it baffles how Niantic just lets people break their TOS like this, multi accounting is one thing but spoofing is another
We used rooted phones. Almost impossible for Niantic to detect 😉
Funny how they can ban you for using third party software while demanding instalation of Campfire a 3rd party software.
There are ways around it. Lol
Also another problem is the wayfarer program , people on there are refusing most new stuff so its almost impossible to grow your community , i grinded to lvl 37 so i could nominate stops and everything ive submitted has been rejected . this is pretty depressing sometimes it feels like community against community xD
the fact that widespread spoofing still exists 7 years after the game was introduced is a testament to how inept the niantic technical team is
I ain’t no spoofer, I don’t care if people do spoof. At the end of the day people gonna play the game how they wanna play.
Spoofers can make something useful for this game... If Niantic notice that their location data are not right, maybe they will return cheap remote passes and unlock shadow raids :D
Nah they don't care about community
I babysit my 1-year-old nephew, and I’m disabled, so I can’t get out and do in-person raids.
Niantic: Go touch some grass u lazy ass
Spoofers are the reason this game still exists. Them buying tons of raid passes carries the games revenue.
Definitely been debating spoofing but im not internet savvy enough lmao
Lol, same here. 😂
tenorshare spoofing ez
I mean the low level Shadow Raids did not need to be in person, maybe the Legendary ones but no large group of people are going to turn up and do a one or three star raid, it's just so forced to 'Get out and Go' and lots of people have been affected by this so spoofing was inevitable!
Yeah, I spoof on a separate device and account. Im not spending 2 bucks for each raid and not even guaranteed to catch the pokemon, thats stupid. Plus im not leaving ny house to do the 1 free raid a day and then still gotta pay for premium passes. Niantic are greedy af.
I don’t really mind spoofing except when it comes to taking over gyms…Spoofing is RAMPANT in my rural community…gyms are being taken over by a group of red team members who don’t live in or around my area since the remote raid pass change.
Yes this!
I’m area is rampant with spoofers. Or so it seems. Since every gym is alwayyyssss full. Like always and I get insta kicked anytime I take a gym myself. But the raids literally nobody does raids around here. I see the occasional one person from outta town come to their second house in our little town and do a raid but it’s always tier 1 or 3s. Never anybody to do the T5s or Mega’s. So my only conclusion is that there are so many spoofers in my town. Or they no insensitive to go out. Every community day I watch for anyone playing so I can ask to maybe befriend them. Since I only started playing towards the beginning of July 2022. I have seen 1 person In my town playing and it was a kid I knew from a long time ago. And he never wants to go raid plus he only just started playing so has no real grasp on the game. Ugh makes me so frustrated, just wish that if they are spoofers in my area that maybe some can just come help my raid at least….. like dang come on. Couldn’t do shadow mewtwo, same with shadow art..guess I’ll pack up and move to a big city right? That’s the solution or at least the only one I can think of. Since driving 1hr away but having an on the call job plus a family well that makes it a little hard to go an hr away without causing trouble in paradise…..
I am guilty of spoofing. Why do I spoof? Many reasons. I don't have the luxury of being near any towns or cities. This entire area is a dead zone for cell phones. I literally can't play if I can't spoof, and it really sucks.
They screwed over a lot of rural players when they decided on no remote raids for shadows. Exactly what did they epect to happen.
We are not worried about “what is good for Pokémon go” we are worried about everyone always being able to play,it affects no one accept revenue maybe.
I’m fine with people spoofing if they don’t take gyms. It’s so annoying when you see all the spoofers take your gyms you have to walk a lot for.
Well try having to drive a half hour just to do a raid or just do a remote raid
Just take gyms out of the game at this point
Haven't seen more spoofers but yes they shouldn't of nerfed remote raids. But now the game is nerfed they lost a lot of money. Even these in person raids some gotta travel as not everywhere has a community. I myself gotta travel 25 miles for in person raids
I live 10 miles from the nearest gym and 17 miles from the nearest cluster.
I try using campfire and poke genie, even when I'm downtown but rarely get campfire response. Poke genie can help at times but popular raids in prime time I see over 500 raids ahead of mine making timing out a problem.
I'm not a fan of cheating and wouldn't spoof but honestly, I'd welcome help by any means to get raids done and I jumped into a few raids that were clearly spoofed.
I don't think spoofing is a big issue because niantic didn't make anything good for rural areas.
Dear Count Jinsula... I really appreciate the content you make and watch all of your videos without fail. But I gotta disagree on what you said regarding spoofers creating a "negative environment". Back when remote raiding wasn't even a thing, legit players in my community almost always relied upon spoofers to take down raids. They help legit players get their daily gym coins. They're always at our beck and call whenever we need them for urgent trades and stuff. There are problem makers who keep attacking our gyms once in a while. But overall in my experience spoofers have only helped to enhance the gameplay for everyone.
Well, I feel that’s talking from your experience but let me settle the score here. My experience is hell with spoofers, even when trying to use them for raids I’ve lost premium pases while I’m in place taking risks, gas and many other stuff, they would just get out of the lobby, make a new one where I’m not in it and even said to me “sorry, the comunity spoke in a chat for spoofers to make a new raid lobby” and that’s not fair at all… Also I necer get the 50 pokecoins because they have an agreement with areas, like saying a specific county is only blue and the other is only yellow, I took down 2 gyms in a gas station and 5 minutes later they struck down both gyms, I only get 1 coin after spending 15 minutes getting the gym, so I indeed do not like spoofers in my country, if they helped sure, but that’s not the case and not only that, but once one offered me a trade of a regional I wanted and he insisted he would only give it if I gave up a shiny which isn’t nice considering they even have shiny radars, I disagreed and never talked to him again. I feel in person players have the disadvantage and shadow raids are imposible to solo or really hard to duo with people that don’t have at least one team maxed out.
so by saying beck and call means you never had a real spoofer annoy you they just people you give your location to that you beg for help
@@guillermosandoval2036 there are problem makers here and there even for us. But most of them in our local community are incredibly helpful
@@basillah7650 Sure for someone like you who only has dealt with problem-makers it's no surprise you have tunnel vision. Maybe try and connect with local spoofers in your local community better. Not all of them are bad.
Ironically Niantic probably makes most of their money off spoofers, as they tend to be more active.
Not a spoofer, but I am not surprised. I don’t know what Niantic was thinking when they nerfed the remote raids. I wonder if the topic of spoofers even came up at their meeting?
I have 11 accounts I spoof on lol. I lucky trade pokemon to myself so I don't have to spend money on passes since I get 11 free ones a day.
I think Niantic has to think about the players and how they want to play and worry less about how they want the game.. I've never played a game with soooo much controversy and blindness towards its players. I don't and won't spoof but I COMPLETELY understand those who do.. it's a video game ffs, don't take it so serious lol it's all digital anyway
Air support will be part of game. This is completely Niantic fault for the remote raid nerf. I understand for both side why they do it and don't like it. If they keep the the remote raid the way they were and made exclusives in person raid and reward then the air support will may or may not increase. Also congrat on the milestone.
I live in a rural county. There are only like, 2 pokestops in my entire town and zero gyms. The only other place I can regularly head to that has a gym is my university, bout an hour away. It took like 2 years to get to level 20.
I would turn this away in a heartbeat if rural areas got more support. I get WHY there’s stigma against spoofing, especially with gym camping. And I usually don’t do it if there are an overwhelming number of Instinct gyms or if I’ve taken down any at my campus. But I’m not gonna lose sleep over it, and doing it is the some of the most entertainment I’ve gotten from the game.
I started in 2016.... I played on and off but I've always lived in a rural place no stops unless I drive 20 mins to closest town but anyways I started in 06 got to lv 20 or so then started spoofing a month ago, played around 5 hours a day just walking around NYC. I'm lv 34 now and got a first strike this morning... For 7 days.... But I've bought INPs so they don't care about the money either lol
I was on the fence a year ago. I seen the hood and bad. But it was what it was. But now, as a rural player, I totally get it. I missed out on the shiny shadow mewtwo because there was only 3 of us on a buggy weekend of raids that were almost nowhere in my area
I think the argument that Niantic buffing inperson rewards significantly would have had a measurable move to inperson gameplay just isn’t a valid one. Most people aren’t raiding because of rewards, they want the legendary, the shiny and the hundo. I would never have done a 5 star raid if it weren’t for remote raids and will likely never do an inperson raid regardless of the rewards.
It’s not “coming back”. It never went away, and it’s fun af.
Played legit for 3 years until I had enough. Living in a 3rd world country with a tiny community I’d be lucky if I could do 2 raids a day. Paired with my account that has horrendous luck I decided to start spoofing. Now I can play the game the way that I want when I want and not have to rely on other people that may or may not join for raids. I know pogo is meant to be a social game to get out more but I’m not leaving the comfort of my house just to catch some random crap that isn’t even worth keeping and wasting gas money
It’s a bummer Niantic has fostered these actions. I see an uptick in gyms being taken over in my community which can be frustrating at times. In the end to each their own.
Sadly, spoofing evens out access to in person raids. I know a lot of people who spoof, but I have almost stoped playing the game. The nerfs has ruined the game, because of lack of acces to raids. It not fun having to drive all day just to find a few shadow mewtwo raids, were people in the city’s get lots of the. The raid situation sucks and has killed the game for me.
Multi-accounting I think is as big or bigger of an issue. If you have two or three decently high-level accounts you can beat most things without help and I know a lot of people that do this. A lot of the ones that don't have 2 accounts are the people that have a spouse that also plays, so they have a pretty reliable 2nd person to help them.
I don't know anyone who plays, so I have no one to go out with. I relied on remote raiding (with The Trainer Club gang) to get any legendaries at all. Now that it's limited to 5 per day, I've kind of lost interest in raiding. Sometimes when I play in Philadelphia walking to the train on Wed. nights, I can catch a gym with some people in it, but for the most part it hasn't been that active there either.
Lisa I am in Philadelphia too
Let's raid sometime
@@ThePackman2323 sounds good, I usually have Wednesdays between five and 630, and then I have to catch my train.
@@lisamoore1833 are you on social media at all or on any of the Poke apps to coordinate?
Of course they are back, and everyone knew this would happen. I am NOT a fan of spoofing, but understand some people having the need to do it. But with the muleheaded, to put it kindly, decision to nerf remote raids, the need is real.
Yes sir. Niantic hit us hard. Since they don’t care, why should players?
Pokémon without the raiding option is so boring.
Niantic wants players to play their way…So until they hear us, players will play their way!
All I do is go for walks with my gf and try to catch all 151 of the original. When I only have the regionals left I will be spoofing for sure.
I'm fortunate enough to live in NYC which is filled to the brim with gyms and pokéstops, but I do see where the spoofers come from and I feel bad for them, I wish Niantic can stop trying to force people to not spoof when a good chunk of the pokémon go community has no choice, kinda sad but it's the harsh reality
before rise of remote raid price, im not using any spoof app because i wanna play fair and safe. but few months after niantic increase remote raid price, it feels more hard to do legendary and mega raid, and no one do raid in my area. so i started to spoof for raid
The lack of pokestops in farmable clusters and the horrific garbage spawns is what drives people to spoof. I can't afford to leave the country to just play a mobile game.
I dont spoof but I'm just one bad update from calling it quits and making 5 different accounts to boost my main.
Why wouldn't we spoof? When Niantic says "go outside or don't play".. I enjoy the game, and spend money occasionally, but having to drive from my house to a park just to play for 30 minutes before everyone wants to go home is exhausting. Not to mention boring going to the same few places every time.
I still enjoy playing legit for com days and whatnot. Otherwise, again, why would I not spoof?
Finally- I'm aware I'm risking my account. If I get banned, I'll probably just stop playing altogether. I wont go back to playing clean. The game is fun, but it isn't the meaning of my existence. I'll play something else.
I am in nyc and i can confirm that there is alot of people doing this for shadow raids they are always full no matter how much time is left even in places with nobody around
i cant do raids anymore bc of the remote raid nerfs so i hope ppl go back to spoofing since its impossible to win a 5 star raid by myself. they need to make raid difficulty easier imo like to favor only people who live it big cities is stupid and this game is going to die.
You think spoofing ever left??? 😂
Only way to play this game is spoof. If they were smart they’d just add the joystick at this point. This game is terrible the way they made it
Spoofing is a issue here because they camp certain gyms in Bakersfield. It’s a hassle on csub campus especially when your own team has the same players filling up a gym and they kick you out just so they can fill up the gym by spoofing. That being said Niantic has fumbled this problem consistently the game will continue to have this problem and us legit players here have a lot of frustration when it comes to holding certain gyms because of infamous spoofers.
Remote raids isn’t the issue. Ive been spoofing way before the nerf. Im not about to come home from work and go for a 1-2 hr walk. They expect people to spend hours playing and the only people who can do that is teenagers and people who are at home and probably not able to get a fraction of the Pokémon. Probably some people’s favorite Pokémon are unobtainable for the average person. Nobody can afford to fly to different countries just for a game that doesn’t even listen to its audience.
Spoofing happens bc ppl like me come from towns where no one joins raids... it's as simple as that. You might have some younger ones do it bc they consider it hacking and think thats cool, but I mainly think it comes down to ppl not getting raids and missing out legendaries.
It's the spoofers who are carrying the game till now, if there were no spoofers, this game would not see 2019 even 😂
Facts and to go deeper.... People in mid 30s made Pokemon even a thing 😂
Thanks fkr covering this. I know in the past that the OG TH-camrs used to talk about spoofing, but it got so old because Niantic would never deal with it effectively.
I still see the same exact spoofer clan in my group after 6yrs and it's just insane.
I watched a live on tiktok of someone spoofing during axew community day. They were getting excellent curveball throws no matter where they hit the Pokémon and it immediately excited the encounter when the ball hit without them doing the berry button hold trick. It also showed them shiny in the overworld.
Since the nerf, my commitment to the game has drastically dropped to a point that I don't even bother getting my daily spin or catch 😢
Like. The entire game is meant to be played when you go out. Y’all are cringe af cuz y’all want to sit at home on your fat lazy asses and do nothing and be given everything. Remote raids go against the fundamental nature of the game.
Accessibility being ignored will continue to reward and encourage spoofing. As a disabled person in a rural area its quite a problem playing. I play legitimately but honestly its very tempting given how much they are forcing the experience they want and not what the community says they want.
Pokemon go needs a mode where you don't necessarily need to go out and walk because you can't be out there walking all day every day. Maybe a feature where you can virtually walk a certain distance from where your gps is positioned. having to be constantly moving really hurts the game's potential. If they would make it some kind of a hybrid I bet more people would pick it up.
Good stuff as always Count J. The way I look at it is modding games has been around since the dawn of gaming and this is not any different. Niantic should just have approved ones like other companies that work with game modders do. That way they have some way of keep things in order.
A great example of that is with the Doom series. Mods and fan creations for Classic Doom have been around close to 30 years.
I'm a rural player here. There are two gyms and about seven stops in my town. I am the only player who plays here, so I can't do any raids unless they are solo-able. The nearest town from me with other players is over a 30 min drive. Niantic needs to find solutions for rural players instead of ignoring us.
MATCHMAKING RAIDS! I keep saying but they don’t listen. Spoofers keep Pokémon Go raid lobbies fuller
You absolutely can't blame people! They've nerfed amazing qol changes from the pandemic into the ground!. Remote raids and online communities shattered and destroyed by niantic! Shadow raids excluding rural players locking them to local raids is very hurtful. All bonuses taken away incense nerfed into the ground spawn rates terrible. So yeah I don't blame anyone spoofing! The game has become unplayable and inaccessible thanks to all the nerfs it's all on Niantic!
I just learned about spoofing and i wish i had it years ago. it's been 3 years since ive played pokemon go because i live in a rural area. theres literally NOTHING around. the closet pokestop for me is about 2 miles away and theres not a gym in sight
Niantic does not take any other gps AR game serious other than Ingress. Any other game will be plagued with endless amounts of spoofers. But not ingress because of the way it is designed where balance needs to be a priority or else the game dies
Niantic needs to make a system where legit players can pay a fee each season to have access to fly, where they can teleport around the world ( base it off real flight times, so people have to wait), and then they need a bike system ( fee each season ) so you can ride around and catch. This could solve the issue they currently have. Yeah, people will spoof but the casual ones will pay that fee so they know their account is safe. This would bring the game back to life for people who can't get out, are in unsafe or rural areas, and for people who just want to experience the game in different countries. I would think it would even increase event ticket sales.
I’d like there to be at least the joystick option so ppl who can’t get out , ones that are home bound , or can’t walk . That way they can still enjoy playing!
but it’s Pokémon go not Pokémon sit
@@kedd1e What about ppl that can’t walk?? Wheelchairs and walkers ? Ppl who have had bad accidents? Ones who have no way to get out of their homes
@@marysylvia9856and also, kids???
Late comment but I gotta say, mentioning gameplay incentives is the key. Spoofers are never going to back away from spoofing as is, and banning them isn’t going to change that, nor will it eradicate that community as a whole
Im not surprised spoofing has gone up. It's bound to happen with what has been happening lately. I personally know a few of them and I'm happy i do since it helps for completing my dex
Bro my pokemon from my gyms are getting knocked out seconds apparat. And it's super annoying going out again to reclaim the gyms, so I'd get my 50 coins a day, for them to be knocked out again as soon as I get home, and it's all by the same player, each time.
How can I report them?
I dont spoof, but it would be tempting as the Exclisve reginals are impossible to get unless niantic gives them to us in an event.. Not all of us can afford to travel the world just to play pokemon.
Literally! I love furfrou but I’m not about to get a loan just to get them
I live in a tiny tiny tiny town with no one else that plays the game. Spoofing is one of the only ways to make it even a little enjoyable.
who cares if you spoof. the only reason i don’t is bc i don’t want to get banned and lose everything i worked for plus money i’ve spent in game