The 36mm PARMIGIANI FLEURIER TORIC MEMORY TIME in yellow gold is certainly a very beautiful dress watch from the 1990s. As for Chopard, the recent no date versions of the L.U.C. 1860 will also age very well. I consider the Revolution edition to be an almost perfect watch with its great size and proportions, superb dial colour, a cool material for the case, and a superb micro-rotor movement. I couldn't ask for more.
I hope that UG come back great again..🤞 For me an underrated number 10 is Movado: the great M90 or 95 caliber in the Borgel case or in the Sub-sea or Super Sub-sea version.
I'd like to mention all the iterations of the "skinny" IWC Ingenieur SL in 34mm (from 1983 to 2001): timeless Genta design in a much less "in your face" execution. Sporty yet elegant, extremely fascinating technical solutions, very small production numbers.
completely agree with you regarding Breguet and Daniel Roth. Brought Breguet back to its glory and has been a legend among the early independent watch movement. The best of all things in a brand - history, innovation, artisanal, and yet still evolving to meet modern tastes. Could be a mono-brand collector in Breguet.
The Blancpain Villeret 38mm can be bought for 3k without the box and papers, has a time-tested movement with a 100 hours of power reserve. Buying it second hand it is an absolute steal, buying it new it is an absolute steal.
After UG, here are some: - Vintage West End Watch Co.: Ridiculously underrated. Ridiculously sturdy watches. Unmistakable designs. They were the first to use Decagonal Borgel/Taubert cases. They were the first to use Incabloc shock protection. They were the only ones allowed to use Longines movements in their watches. They shared the building with Longines... which was next to Patek. Too bad they lost most of their records due to a fire, but they still stand today and privately owned! - Vintage Favre Leuba: Second oldest watch company after Blancpain, I love their Sea Chief collection with the double barrel movements. Never saw a design that didn't impress me from them. - Vintage Zenith: The Keyhole (100 year anniversary model introduced in 1965), and their Disco volante model... actually any Disco Volante model from any reputable brand is quite special. - Vintage Certina: Needs to introduction, their 50s to 60s models specifically. Hold one or look at their movements and you should be impressed by the level of their quality. I know theses aren't 10K plus models, but that's what so cool about vintage collecting, the variety is there!
I was recently the under-bidder at a Christie's auction on an AP 5442 skeleton and it's crazy to me that you can still get these under $20K US! Grail level.
Thanks for another excellent and informative canter through a wide range of interesting watches. I agree entirely with your inclusion of the Omega Constellation from the 1960s through early 1970s....wearable and beautifully made with such a broad range of stainless steel through to previous metal options - something for everyone!!
Great selection, thanks. Very much appealed by the Omega meister constellation steal version you are presenting. Never seen one on that bracelet. Is there a reference at your hand? 11:32
@ that gold old days. Still remembering tuning in Tuesday’s on IG livestream to watch a drop of datejusts, submariners and omegas. Some month later you added Cartier to your catalogue. Looking forward to coming back here and picking up the ref from your 10 year old order book. I may buy one and will have this story attached.
I would add another Omega. The 321 movement non-speedmaster chronographs. And also another Rolex. The 5100 Texano. Integrated bracelet, full gold, big size, beta21, quite rare and prices are lower than a new Day-date 36
@@Armoer the 5100 has some issues tbh. Getting parts for the Beta21 can be quite challenging. Also these often have batterie leaks. Otherwise very cool watch
Couldn't choose one, hence my two options I have for place 10. 1st Blancpain Villeret 5495. And even more modern collection (even some more modern pieces like ref: 6025 3442B or 6653q-3642-55b). Beautiful pieces. 2nd IWC Da Vinci Perpetual Calendar ref 3750. Goody in all aspects. Love the brand, love the watch.
@@cloudy2265 very very good choices. You know what you’re talking about. I wanted to include Blancpain but decided to leave it up to the comment section. Didnt dissapoint 👏
Greetings, Jasper -- I recently acquired an original 1955 Vacheron Constantin 6087. Yellow gold, Roman numerals, tachymeter scale. Excellent original condition; one of only 28 YG pieces. The dial, while in great shape, does exhibit some minor aging. I'm curious what your thoughts are about VC's restoration service. It would be nice if the dial could be made 'perfect', but I wonder if that would impact its value. Only recently discovered your channel. Very impressive and informative. Thanks, Roger
Hi Roger, I suggest to leave it as is. Aging is natural and unique, and integral part of vintage watches. If it really bothers you, you could have it cleaned. I dont think however, that the 6087 has raised enamel lettering.
@@AmsterdamVintageWatches Thank you so much for your response, Jasper. That was my inclination also. The 6087 does have applied indices, but not raised enamel lettering. I've only recently become intrigued with vintage watches, and feel pretty fortunate to have found this iconic model. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for the nice video! I agree with your assessment. I hope you will curate more of these watches in the below 15k€ range in your shop, which makes them accessible for my budget . I really appreciate your detailed knowledge. I would also to get your view towards Piaget.
What’s come to my mind: Vintage Ebel Mechanical Chronograph (1911 Discovery) with either an ETA (COSC)or a Zenith (they were supplying Rolex at the time) movement. Superb quality with diver cases, Integrated bracelet. 👌❤️👍 Recent administration have finally decided to go towards men high grade watches(instead of women fashion watches which were mainly quartz watches)make the nicest mechanical world timer with an incredible beautiful dial, you just have to see.
What about the forgoten brother of Nautilus PP Neptune? It has unique design and an impressive range of complications, all at a price point that feels remarkably undervalued
Agree with all your picks. (Well, maybe Rolex Explorer underrated amongst the overrated, if that makes any sense). JLC, reverso yes, but I think even more-so their other watches, complications, triple calendars, etc. sometimes even precious metal ones for under 10k. Vintage Zenith chronographs, with all the hype Daytonas are getting, and even vintage speedmasters, I think vintage Zenith chronographs are overlooked; especially with the role they play in the development of the automatic chronograph movement. Great video!
How about FP Journe? I know there is a price tag on those, but i do feel they are under valued. my personal favorite is the chronometre resonance, especially the ones with a brass dial.
My experience with FPJ is lackluster. But perhaps one could argue its good value for money at retail. Yet, I’d like to see you try to convince people the market value should be higher than it already is haha.
#10 Universal Geneve White Shadow - Gerald Genta designed with a Microrotor Movement for under 1k€ if you are lucky. There is nothing that even comes close.
Well , after this nice moment ......lets see... the tudor of the 70 type ranger II or "chrono-time "( ref 9121/0 ) less number of production as a sub tudor ....the AP 14800 st the only royal oak who din't accept metal bracelet ... the iwc yacht club II ..the pure genta !!!!
I thought this read "UNDERRATED"??? You don't have to know a damn thing about wrist watches to be able to name at least 5 of your 10. I challenge you for some content on real cheap vintage obscure diamonds in the rough. Wrist watches out in the wild where the meager men hunt for time pieces and drink cheaper liquor. Mostly kidding. But would like to see that video. Thanks
The 36mm PARMIGIANI FLEURIER TORIC MEMORY TIME in yellow gold is certainly a very beautiful dress watch from the 1990s. As for Chopard, the recent no date versions of the L.U.C. 1860 will also age very well. I consider the Revolution edition to be an almost perfect watch with its great size and proportions, superb dial colour, a cool material for the case, and a superb micro-rotor movement. I couldn't ask for more.
I hope that UG come back great again..🤞 For me an underrated number 10 is Movado: the great M90 or 95 caliber in the Borgel case or in the Sub-sea or Super Sub-sea version.
I'd like to mention all the iterations of the "skinny" IWC Ingenieur SL in 34mm (from 1983 to 2001): timeless Genta design in a much less "in your face" execution.
Sporty yet elegant, extremely fascinating technical solutions, very small production numbers.
completely agree with you regarding Breguet and Daniel Roth. Brought Breguet back to its glory and has been a legend among the early independent watch movement. The best of all things in a brand - history, innovation, artisanal, and yet still evolving to meet modern tastes. Could be a mono-brand collector in Breguet.
The Blancpain Villeret 38mm can be bought for 3k without the box and papers, has a time-tested movement with a 100 hours of power reserve. Buying it second hand it is an absolute steal, buying it new it is an absolute steal.
After UG, here are some:
- Vintage West End Watch Co.: Ridiculously underrated. Ridiculously sturdy watches. Unmistakable designs. They were the first to use Decagonal Borgel/Taubert cases. They were the first to use Incabloc shock protection. They were the only ones allowed to use Longines movements in their watches. They shared the building with Longines... which was next to Patek. Too bad they lost most of their records due to a fire, but they still stand today and privately owned!
- Vintage Favre Leuba: Second oldest watch company after Blancpain, I love their Sea Chief collection with the double barrel movements. Never saw a design that didn't impress me from them.
- Vintage Zenith: The Keyhole (100 year anniversary model introduced in 1965), and their Disco volante model... actually any Disco Volante model from any reputable brand is quite special.
- Vintage Certina: Needs to introduction, their 50s to 60s models specifically. Hold one or look at their movements and you should be impressed by the level of their quality.
I know theses aren't 10K plus models, but that's what so cool about vintage collecting, the variety is there!
I was recently the under-bidder at a Christie's auction on an AP 5442 skeleton and it's crazy to me that you can still get these under $20K US! Grail level.
Watches are way better presented know via the longer split screen. Thanks !
Thanks for another excellent and informative canter through a wide range of interesting watches. I agree entirely with your inclusion of the Omega Constellation from the 1960s through early 1970s....wearable and beautifully made with such a broad range of stainless steel through to previous metal options - something for everyone!!
Great selection, thanks. Very much appealed by the Omega meister constellation steal version you are presenting. Never seen one on that bracelet. Is there a reference at your hand? 11:32
@@kerry8089 this one we have sold probably close to a decade ago. I’ll look it up. The bracelet is from a Ranchero I believe
@ that gold old days. Still remembering tuning in Tuesday’s on IG livestream to watch a drop of datejusts, submariners and omegas. Some month later you added Cartier to your catalogue. Looking forward to coming back here and picking up the ref from your 10 year old order book. I may buy one and will have this story attached.
I would add another Omega. The 321 movement non-speedmaster chronographs.
And also another Rolex. The 5100 Texano. Integrated bracelet, full gold, big size, beta21, quite rare and prices are lower than a new Day-date 36
@@Armoer the 5100 has some issues tbh. Getting parts for the Beta21 can be quite challenging. Also these often have batterie leaks. Otherwise very cool watch
Eterna, especially those with the OEM Gay Freres bracelets.
Nice one Jasper!
Another excellent & classy video 👌👍
Couldn't choose one, hence my two options I have for place 10.
1st Blancpain Villeret 5495. And even more modern collection (even some more modern pieces like ref: 6025 3442B or 6653q-3642-55b). Beautiful pieces.
2nd IWC Da Vinci Perpetual Calendar ref 3750. Goody in all aspects. Love the brand, love the watch.
@@cloudy2265 very very good choices. You know what you’re talking about. I wanted to include Blancpain but decided to leave it up to the comment section. Didnt dissapoint 👏
Greetings, Jasper -- I recently acquired an original 1955 Vacheron Constantin 6087. Yellow gold, Roman numerals, tachymeter scale. Excellent original condition; one of only 28 YG pieces. The dial, while in great shape, does exhibit some minor aging. I'm curious what your thoughts are about VC's restoration service. It would be nice if the dial could be made 'perfect', but I wonder if that would impact its value.
Only recently discovered your channel. Very impressive and informative. Thanks, Roger
Hi Roger, I suggest to leave it as is. Aging is natural and unique, and integral part of vintage watches. If it really bothers you, you could have it cleaned. I dont think however, that the 6087 has raised enamel lettering.
@@AmsterdamVintageWatches Thank you so much for your response, Jasper. That was my inclination also. The 6087 does have applied indices, but not raised enamel lettering. I've only recently become intrigued with vintage watches, and feel pretty fortunate to have found this iconic model. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for the nice video! I agree with your assessment. I hope you will curate more of these watches in the below 15k€ range in your shop, which makes them accessible for my budget . I really appreciate your detailed knowledge. I would also to get your view towards Piaget.
I am very curious about what you think of a 90's VC Overseas?
@@thijsklijnstra3400 theyre cool for sure. But my heart goes out to the 44018
Pre ceramic Rolex Submariner no date 2 liner superluminova
I think Movado is definitely an underrated brand in general. Some borgel case celestograf would definitely deserve better luck
@@gabg5279 please dont shout it out. Still need to buy a cool M95 🤫
What’s come to my mind: Vintage Ebel Mechanical Chronograph (1911 Discovery) with either an ETA (COSC)or a Zenith (they were supplying Rolex at the time) movement. Superb quality with diver cases, Integrated bracelet. 👌❤️👍 Recent administration have finally decided to go towards men high grade watches(instead of women fashion watches which were mainly quartz watches)make the nicest mechanical world timer with an incredible beautiful dial, you just have to see.
Yes! Vintage Ebel for the win
What about the forgoten brother of Nautilus PP Neptune? It has unique design and an impressive range of complications, all at a price point that feels remarkably undervalued
@@AnthonyOrysyuk yessss! See previous video where i specifically mention the Neptune!
Agree with all your picks. (Well, maybe Rolex Explorer underrated amongst the overrated, if that makes any sense). JLC, reverso yes, but I think even more-so their other watches, complications, triple calendars, etc. sometimes even precious metal ones for under 10k. Vintage Zenith chronographs, with all the hype Daytonas are getting, and even vintage speedmasters, I think vintage Zenith chronographs are overlooked; especially with the role they play in the development of the automatic chronograph movement. Great video!
@@Bu-22 excellent additions. Thanksss
great video for me also the universal geneve space compax
@@JeanLouisFrancois-p5d great choice
How about FP Journe? I know there is a price tag on those, but i do feel they are under valued. my personal favorite is the chronometre resonance, especially the ones with a brass dial.
My experience with FPJ is lackluster. But perhaps one could argue its good value for money at retail. Yet, I’d like to see you try to convince people the market value should be higher than it already is haha.
#10 Universal Geneve White Shadow - Gerald Genta designed with a Microrotor Movement for under 1k€ if you are lucky. There is nothing that even comes close.
@@schweinekoenig1986 yeah White shadow and Polerouter are great
Rolex speedking ref# 6340 is definitely since they discontinued it in the 1970
Rare for sure. But I think the diameter and the manual movement puts many people off
#10 IWC Portuguese Chronograph Rattrappante
@@filipporadaelli2602 nah. Contemporary IWC absolutely sucks. Apart from being butt ugly
Nr 10 : OP late fifties with dauphine hands and no date. Same idea as a Connie. And same movement as a Big Crown.
Patek 5134? I’d like one and it seems “unloved”.
Personally I feel theres a reason its unloved 😂
@@AmsterdamVintageWatchesthat’s what I mostly hear about it frankly. People don’t dig it but I’m not giving up on it quite yet!😂
Breitling Navitimer
@@meneurb 806 and 809 are very cool!
Well , after this nice moment ......lets see... the tudor of the 70 type ranger II or "chrono-time "( ref 9121/0 ) less number of production as a sub tudor ....the AP 14800 st the only royal oak who din't accept metal bracelet ... the iwc yacht club II ..the pure genta !!!!
Patek 5040 but that's coz I just got one :)
Hello there.
Leuke bril gozer.
I thought this read "UNDERRATED"??? You don't have to know a damn thing about wrist watches to be able to name at least 5 of your 10. I challenge you for some content on real cheap vintage obscure diamonds in the rough. Wrist watches out in the wild where the meager men hunt for time pieces and drink cheaper liquor.
Mostly kidding. But would like to see that video. Thanks
Haha well-written. Ill dig into it.