SA gave us the first oportunity in 1965, where The Pumas got their name by a jounalist who couldn t recognize the jaguarete. We will never forget that friendship gesture.
As a South African, full compliments to Argentina. A great rugby nation, so passionate and now rising to a new and consistent level under Conteponi. I love to see this !!! Really enjoy your show Julian, what a lad ! BOKKE 🇿🇦
Love to go to Arg for a RWC! Why Oz again!? Their people are vaguely into it and not really. Oz rules, league etc. US not into it but also hating. What a waste. Ireland and Argentina. Give it to them. I’d go. And I’m a Bok fan who lives in Hawaii. LA is closer but I’m not even motivated for that location as a host. Pathetic by world rugby. USA is not the future of 15’s. If so, way way after we’re all gone.
As an Argentina fan, Thank you NZ, AU and SA for admit us in the Rugby Championship. This was the oportunity for to compite and improve our rugby. Working hard we are obtainin incredible results, no imaginables a few years ago. Realy thank you very much!!
What a come back from 0-17... amazing. Very good analysis. I wish the Pumas could get this championship and surprise the rugby world but I think the men in green are going to smash us over there. We are going to give a big fight till thr moment where there will be a break in the match. Hope I'm mistaken. Vamos Pumas!
As argentinian, the fact that rugby is an amateur sport in Argentina, still amaze me. We owe a lot to the three southern rugby giants, New Zeland, Australia but specially South Africa for they have always supported our development. Thanks!
Argentina has been the success story of world rugby in the past ten years. It has been fantastic to see! I love their passion, intensity, creativity and their amazing fans.
@@JulianShawofficial we're at this level in a big part thanks to the support from NZ, SA and AU. Forever grateful to you guys. Your generosity won't be forgotten
Great effort Pumas, I wasn't that surprised, I think they are underrated and are slowly becoming more consistent. They were always going to be up for this at home especially after the buzz form of last week. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go close next week, they are a different beast now and know they have to string games together. Boks at home such a force though and with Eben's record breaking game you'd have to say they are still strong favorites. Awesome that TRC still up for grabs.
it is but wouldn't have believed that last week. I was hearing all sorts of bs SA so far ahead Rasie a genius etc. - reality is there has been nothing in the games SA have won so as Arg and Irl (x2) have proved not as good as they think they are and nowhere near as good as 2015 AB's
is nice to hear you recognizing the hard work of pumas . for us is a kind of a dream being able to give real fight to AB , bokke or australia. i believe that we learn from this teams all , and will keep on learning because they are the best, at least for me , AB is the top and after that the springboks ... maybe this is the fist argentinain team that has a full identity when they are able to move the ball quickly from side to side ... so the important fact for pumas is that they are now able to show their own way of playing rugby but not lookin after what the best world teams does ... thanks
Seeing Pumas with a chance of winning the Rugby Championship is proof of the progress that Argentine rugby has made in the last 20 years. They are on their way to becoming a rugby power to beat.
From Argentina 🇦🇷, great analysis. Next week will be a tough one, but today I am enjoying this victory over the best Team of the last decade. Thank you everyone for your respectfull support messages from all over the world.
Good to see a YT channel that doesn’t just read out loud what we just saw during the match and actually provides a good even opinion. Kudos to you and your channel Coming back from behind to beat NZ/AU/SA, quit of the impressive feat! Pumas carajo!!!
@@fu8713 your inner victim will always lay the responsibility for your situation in life, at the feet of someone else....it's the standard coping mechanism of the 21st century.
Thanks for watching! Perhaps a couple too many selection changes against an excellent Argentina team. But I expect the Bokke to learn from it and bounce back hard in a week.
@@JulianShawofficialI expect the pumas to win them, if they bring their A game, they run from deep and have excellent hands and running angles and their pack is just absolutely fantastic, they must sort out the scrums, if they bully them upfront then it might be game over😂
This is something I dont understand. Boks are keeping adding to depth and you can only do that by resting key players and adding experience in serious pressure situation by playing away without your best. Rassie used this as a very valuable space to hit out which will not cause the Boks to lose the RC. What use would it be to send his strongest team over and to clinch the Cup just to have a dead rubber in which youngsters will not have the same 'real' pressure. Did Rassie wanted to lose this game? No of course not but he had a reserve game in hand - in SA - to do the dirty if his players couldnt manage in Argentia. Rassie knows how to make the most of whats coming Boks way. Boks by minimum 20 next week, have the Cup with new players having had the best chance to grow.
Good on the Argies with the win. Somehow I don't think the Boks will slip up in Nelspruit but it will be a complete turn around. It's also good for rugby in the Southern Hemisphere.
I would never, and Julian knows I am a straight shooter, say the Boks brought their B team, because that is plain Bull! The Argentinians have always been an underestimated team to play, whether it is at home, or away. Things change, drastically within seconds with them. Maybe we went in too confident (which is our biggest mistake) and got our asses handed to us. We needed to be brought to our knees proving that just because we are world champions that it is a walk in the park. It does not matter whether you play the Mighty All Blacks, the speedsters from the land of the rising sun, or the farm team from Timbucktoo, the playing style and dedication needs to remain the same. Well done Los Pumas. We deserved the hiding! See you next time.
As a bok fan I am not that surprised. Argentina have been playing great and were used to winning by 1 point. And we were on the verge of doing that again - unfortunately we are seemingly in a building phase scouting for future kickers. Very much not the end of world. If anything I think were proud of the pumas.
Totally! Obviously I didn’t love when Argentina beat the All Blacks this year but I have a similar philosophical outlook to yourself. When Argentina was added to the rugby championship over a decade ago the end goal was that they could beat any of their opponents. They have just grown and grown as a team and are now world beaters on their day. I am excited to see how they perform against Northern Hemisphere teams!
Great channel!Congratulation to the Pumas. Played fantastic rugby. To come back from that start shows they are a class team. Sometimes you reach a ceiling in your capabilities, and there are a couple of players for the Springboks that will never get to international national level. If the everyday supporter can spot them, why does Rassie persist with them?
it is not a golden generation the u20 is actually better than the current generation or shows more potential, they defeated the babyboks twice in a row in the world cup this year and the rugby they played was top top tier
As a Saffa this outcome don't surprise me at all, don't know what all the fuss is about, there's about 6 teams in the world that can beat each other, we should stop living in a dream world and be more realistic.... I just love the competitiveness in rugby.... But what do I know
First proper SA comment I've heard. Respect and credit to SA for their achievements and the team to beat but it is close and other teams are going to fancy their chances and a lot of games are going to be 51/49
Argentina didnt handed one of Australias biggest defeat of their lives but the BIGGEST in AUS history. Argentina also handed the BIGGEST NZ defeat in NZ soil.
Very concerning, is complacency setting in for Springboks. Only team in this Rugby Championship that is on the up is Argentina. Well done Argentina. Springboks have beaten a very weak All Blacks and Wallabies side. What a shame for Southern Hemisphere Rugby!!!! Based on these past performances, if Springboks don't pick it up several gears, I believe right now......, Ireland and France will give Springboks a hiding.
@@conniemogale5224No…it was missed tackles, poor defence, low tackle success rate. As South Africa loves saying “defence wins games”…so this is huge reason Pumas could score 4 tries. Argentina missed kicks as well. Better team won on the day
I’m sure everyone would prefer more home game advantage but it’s even how they’ve balanced it out. Next year it will work out exactly the same for every other team 3 away games, 3 home games. If Argentina are going to win it they’ll have to do it like every other nation has.
Ok to try out new players during WC cycle but if they defend like amateurs they not doing themselves or Rasssie any favours... deserved win for the Los Pumas
Pumas had historically a great pack of forwards. But they gained confidence after they won the world rugby seven series. Now they play a lot more with their backs.
Do you realise that there is something called depth building ? Slot of teams will have up and down times untill the world cup because of this every team this year has suffered a loss why cuz it's the year after a world cup
Im really happy to see that in rugby there's still a comradery between fans of the sport, in football we've got a lot of unnecessary hatred. Greetings!
Hermosas Palabras para los Pumas, Coincido en el analisis en muchos aspectos. Los Pumas estuvieron entre los 4 mejores de un mundial en 2007, 2015 y 2023, No es mas una sorpresa, ya ha realizado grandes performances en los Mundiales. Saludos!
Argentinian here, so pleased to see that Contepomi have surpassed my expectations. Although I still like Quesada more. I've always liked South Africa, they are like our big brother in rugby as they has always lent us a hand, in fact they are the main reason why we are playing in rugby championship so I respect them a lot. But please bring Manie Libbok again for the next game, PLEASE 🙏🥺
Great review. There is a saying back home “we can be the best and the worse with the same ease” totally applies to the Pumas. If the Pumas take their meds they could pull a win, tough but possible.
SA took this game too lightly despite getting off to a fast start.. They underestimated that win Argentina vs Australia that showed signs of how confident this team was building. Tactically, Argentina were so good. Their scrum was getting mauled so they did their best to avoid them and play to their strengths instead. Brilliant game by the Puma's which sets up an exciting finale next week. Go Puma.!!!
Without a South African TMO, the springboks are on a level playing field. It's back to 15 on 15 and look what happens Let's hope the refs and TMO are always neutral in these games from here on out
AB's take note on how you beat that rush/offside defence, stand deep and beat them with the hands and running angles, and sort out your positions in the backline and your bench, get a better comp and get the overseas players to play again.
Argentina are not a brute force team, their players are not hugh. So their game plan is running the ball and they are fast and their passing is really good. The Boks gave their young guns a run, Moerat is not really a Bok captain, but he needs more game time, Manie should not kick. Overall, good game, Pumas did well. The return game will be different, the Pumas will be tested properly.
I was at the stadium. The penalty they missed at the end was a result of extreme pressure from the crowd. You'd think that an elite player wouldn't get nervous, but the noise from the fans was exaggeratedly deafening at that moment, something they may not be used to.
The new era on Rugby players are not size …the smaller guys with more speed , agility and accuracy are now the new rugby generation, all credit to the Argentinian’s …..look at Cheslin Kolby , Antione Du Point 🏉🇳🇦
Shock? Nonsense, that implies they had no chance of winning, and no one expected them to. Pumas are always dark horses. Boks will learn from this and bounce back. Maybe a silver lining will be that Rassie looks for an alternative to Manie.
Julian, far from me saying this was planned - I find it decidedly convenient that next weekend Etzebeth will be playing for a SA record *AND* the tournament is *NOT YET* concluded a.k.a. a dead rubber in South Africa!
Argentina remind me a lot how France used to be for decades. Absolutely deadly 1 week with often very beautiful rugby…..then flat as a pancake the next. But jeez they were good against the Boks. Rassie should just take this is as an acceptable loss in his quest for an interchangeable 40-50 playing squad. Rotations can be a problematic quest though. In NZ, we’ve done this quite a lot over the last 25 years, and our fans don’t really like it, regardless of the probable benefits. Certainly not more than the core 23. That’s a continuity thing v building for the future.
Imagine playing the world cup these days with this Contepomi team, We could imagine to reach the final. I hope Pumas can keep doing it lie until next world cup.
Nothing past Argentina, well done! Helps the Springboks wake up and calm down. The Springboks did NOT play well. But, and sorry to say, Libbok is not a Springbok. He is not supposed to be there. PLEASE. Dear Rassie, your view on Libbok is very faulty. You get great players in all countries who are great and worth a lot. But then make them play for Springboks, NZ, England, wherever, and then they are just not up to it. How many opportunities and chances do you get to start performing? Libbok's skills are natural, so why is he not forced to practice goal kicking 16 hours per day? No, for the Springboks, post kicking counts a lot, can win or lose a game.
It is interesting that Libbok has lost us crucial games that would have made the bookies a considerable amount of money, for example, this game and the pool game against Ireland in the World Cup. One has to wonder.
We'll have to see the psychological state of Argentina, if they are confident, and SA feels under pressure...mmm anything can happen. Don't forget the Pumas missed 2 or 3 shots at the posts, the difference could have been larger.
Not unexpected. Cant change 9 guys and add new guys before you take on Argies at home. Good on Rassie for having the faith, but to me was always a lose. Good on Argentina for taking the win. Hope they remain on the up. Will be good for rugby to have a more consistent Puma team
Razzie & his Bomb Squad came under rapid fire from the Argies after they led 17-0 for 15mins of the 1st half? So why did Razzie leave the kicking to Manie Libbock who missed the supposed winning goal? This is how the All Blacks lost the last RWCup to the Boks missing two convertible simple kicks so this loss is felt deeply by the Springboks all over.
World teams are very close, a must is a reliable kicker. The boks had an easy kick to win the game and missed. So many games are won by a kick . Semi final and final of curry cup, semi final rwc , lions series, etc etc
As a bok fan I am happy for Argentina. They are playing very well. Rugby needs this.
Well done Argentina. ❤ Love from South Africa.
Thank you Brother, we love you too, cheers from Buenos Aires!
We love you , chéers From Tucumán argentina
Saludos desde Tucumán, Argentina
South África Is our older brothers un rugby
SA gave us the first oportunity in 1965, where The Pumas got their name by a jounalist who couldn t recognize the jaguarete.
We will never forget that friendship gesture.
Congrats Argentina 🇦🇷 from Ireland 🇮🇪 👏 brilliant for rugby
We got HUMBLED, as simple as that. Hats off to Argentina!
As a South African, full compliments to Argentina.
A great rugby nation, so passionate and now rising to a new and consistent level under Conteponi. I love to see this !!!
Really enjoy your show Julian, what a lad !
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Love to go to Arg for a RWC! Why Oz again!? Their people are vaguely into it and not really. Oz rules, league etc.
US not into it but also hating. What a waste.
Ireland and Argentina. Give it to them. I’d go.
And I’m a Bok fan who lives in Hawaii.
LA is closer but I’m not even motivated for that location as a host. Pathetic by world rugby.
USA is not the future of 15’s.
If so, way way after we’re all gone.
Eso! Aguante Boke!!
As a Saffa I hate losing but I am happy for Argentina. They played a great game. It’s so good for rugby that so many teams can win on any given day.
As an Argentina fan, Thank you NZ, AU and SA for admit us in the Rugby Championship. This was the oportunity for to compite and improve our rugby. Working hard we are obtainin incredible results, no imaginables a few years ago. Realy thank you very much!!
I want Los Pumas to succeed, huge respect to them. And as always they are deadly on attack and take no prisoners! Cmon Bokke, be wild dogs.
What a come back from 0-17... amazing. Very good analysis.
I wish the Pumas could get this championship and surprise the rugby world but I think the men in green are going to smash us over there. We are going to give a big fight till thr moment where there will be a break in the match.
Hope I'm mistaken. Vamos Pumas!
As argentinian, the fact that rugby is an amateur sport in Argentina, still amaze me. We owe a lot to the three southern rugby giants, New Zeland, Australia but specially South Africa for they have always supported our development. Thanks!
Looks like Argentina is now a rugby force that was always going to be one... now it's happened.
Thank you for allowing us in your South Hemisphere tournament after 2007 World Cup. That and hard work made of the difference.
Argentina has been the success story of world rugby in the past ten years. It has been fantastic to see! I love their passion, intensity, creativity and their amazing fans.
@@JulianShawofficial we're at this level in a big part thanks to the support from NZ, SA and AU. Forever grateful to you guys. Your generosity won't be forgotten
Amazing Argies team 🇿🇦🇿🇦
We don't like you calling us "argies". It is despective for us.
Agentina play like the french teams of old some of the handling was breath taking.
Great effort Pumas, I wasn't that surprised, I think they are underrated and are slowly becoming more consistent. They were always going to be up for this at home especially after the buzz form of last week. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go close next week, they are a different beast now and know they have to string games together. Boks at home such a force though and with Eben's record breaking game you'd have to say they are still strong favorites. Awesome that TRC still up for grabs.
World rugby is very close these days..great win Pumas
it is but wouldn't have believed that last week. I was hearing all sorts of bs SA so far ahead Rasie a genius etc. - reality is there has been nothing in the games SA have won so as Arg and Irl (x2) have proved not as good as they think they are and nowhere near as good as 2015 AB's
Very good analysis. Cheers, from Argentina.
is nice to hear you recognizing the hard work of pumas . for us is a kind of a dream being able to give real fight to AB , bokke or australia. i believe that we learn from this teams all , and will keep on learning because they are the best, at least for me , AB is the top and after that the springboks ... maybe this is the fist argentinain team that has a full identity when they are able to move the ball quickly from side to side ... so the important fact for pumas is that they are now able to show their own way of playing rugby but not lookin after what the best world teams does ... thanks
Seeing Pumas with a chance of winning the Rugby Championship is proof of the progress that Argentine rugby has made in the last 20 years. They are on their way to becoming a rugby power to beat.
made a couple of WC semis too will feel they are in with a shout to win WC as well
Pumas were on fire, grazy good attacking play from the back, sadly for me😢😂
Congrats guys 🇿🇦
World rugby just got better. Don’t take anyone for granted. Suddenly AB’s don’t look so bad. Ha! Ha! To all those pundits. Well done Pumas
From Argentina 🇦🇷, great analysis.
Next week will be a tough one, but today I am enjoying this victory over the best Team of the last decade.
Thank you everyone for your respectfull support messages from all over the world.
Good to see a YT channel that doesn’t just read out loud what we just saw during the match and actually provides a good even opinion.
Kudos to you and your channel
Coming back from behind to beat NZ/AU/SA, quit of the impressive feat!
Pumas carajo!!!
A win well deserved .
Great for the game. More competitive teams, more fun it gets.
Finally a final in South Africa thank you very much ❤We waited very long for a International final.A home game baby❤
LyleTarentaal
Doesn’t matter when referees are on your side lol 🫶🫶
@@fu8713 your inner victim will always lay the responsibility for your situation in life, at the feet of someone else....it's the standard coping mechanism of the 21st century.
Great analysis ...well done Pumas... old Rassie will have to own this one
Thanks for watching! Perhaps a couple too many selection changes against an excellent Argentina team. But I expect the Bokke to learn from it and bounce back hard in a week.
Especially the captaincy decision
@@JulianShawofficialI expect the pumas to win them, if they bring their A game, they run from deep and have excellent hands and running angles and their pack is just absolutely fantastic, they must sort out the scrums, if they bully them upfront then it might be game over😂
Next week will be epic! 10 changes losing by 1. What other team can do this. We did not deserve to win. Well done Argies
This is something I dont understand. Boks are keeping adding to depth and you can only do that by resting key players and adding experience in serious pressure situation by playing away without your best. Rassie used this as a very valuable space to hit out which will not cause the Boks to lose the RC. What use would it be to send his strongest team over and to clinch the Cup just to have a dead rubber in which youngsters will not have the same 'real' pressure.
Did Rassie wanted to lose this game? No of course not but he had a reserve game in hand - in SA - to do the dirty if his players couldnt manage in Argentia.
Rassie knows how to make the most of whats coming Boks way.
Boks by minimum 20 next week, have the Cup with new players having had the best chance to grow.
Thanks for the love 🇦🇷
Good match and a close win. Congratulations to Pumas. We'll get you next time😊
u won't if you keep been so cocky
@@brendandaly8164 ?
Good on the Argies with the win. Somehow I don't think the Boks will slip up in Nelspruit but it will be a complete turn around. It's also good for rugby in the Southern Hemisphere.
Cheers Julian, great wrap up
I would never, and Julian knows I am a straight shooter, say the Boks brought their B team, because that is plain Bull! The Argentinians have always been an underestimated team to play, whether it is at home, or away. Things change, drastically within seconds with them. Maybe we went in too confident (which is our biggest mistake) and got our asses handed to us. We needed to be brought to our knees proving that just because we are world champions that it is a walk in the park. It does not matter whether you play the Mighty All Blacks, the speedsters from the land of the rising sun, or the farm team from Timbucktoo, the playing style and dedication needs to remain the same. Well done Los Pumas. We deserved the hiding! See you next time.
Yeah 8 changes is definately not a B team..
No, the boks didn't bring their b team, mayde C or D? Moerat and manie is simply not up to international standard. Fact!
Losing by 1 point is not what I would call a hiding.
"the Dr Jekyll and Mr Hide of world rugby" 🤣sos un fenomeno Julian!
Thanks for the kind words and the good analysis. Vamos Argentina!!!!
As a bok fan I am not that surprised. Argentina have been playing great and were used to winning by 1 point. And we were on the verge of doing that again - unfortunately we are seemingly in a building phase scouting for future kickers. Very much not the end of world. If anything I think were proud of the pumas.
Totally! Obviously I didn’t love when Argentina beat the All Blacks this year but I have a similar philosophical outlook to yourself. When Argentina was added to the rugby championship over a decade ago the end goal was that they could beat any of their opponents. They have just grown and grown as a team and are now world beaters on their day. I am excited to see how they perform against Northern Hemisphere teams!
Great channel!Congratulation to the Pumas. Played fantastic rugby. To come back from that start shows they are a class team. Sometimes you reach a ceiling in your capabilities, and there are a couple of players for the Springboks that will never get to international national level. If the everyday supporter can spot them, why does Rassie persist with them?
I was at the stadium, and the people were as ferocious as the player... Great game
What a great video. Great analysis, very well done mate. I´m a subscriber now!!!!!
it is not a golden generation the u20 is actually better than the current generation or shows more potential, they defeated the babyboks twice in a row in the world cup this year and the rugby they played was top top tier
this guy's analysis is good
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MY GREETINGS 😎🤙🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
LOL, you're on all the channels mano. Parabéns, saludos desde Brasil.
@@gastonmoyano8428 Wow. The Pumas were like Iron. Congrats to them.
I will always be supporting the Springboks ♥️
As a Saffa this outcome don't surprise me at all, don't know what all the fuss is about, there's about 6 teams in the world that can beat each other, we should stop living in a dream world and be more realistic.... I just love the competitiveness in rugby.... But what do I know
First proper SA comment I've heard. Respect and credit to SA for their achievements and the team to beat but it is close and other teams are going to fancy their chances and a lot of games are going to be 51/49
such competitivness will die because the selfishness of NZ and SA wanting to leave the rugby championship.
Argentina didnt handed one of Australias biggest defeat of their lives but the BIGGEST in AUS history.
Argentina also handed the BIGGEST NZ defeat in NZ soil.
Vamos los Pumas carajo!!..🇦🇷🐆😍💪☝❤🇦🇷🐆😎
Very concerning, is complacency setting in for Springboks. Only team in this Rugby Championship that is on the up is Argentina. Well done Argentina. Springboks have beaten a very weak All Blacks and Wallabies side. What a shame for Southern Hemisphere Rugby!!!! Based on these past performances, if Springboks don't pick it up several gears, I believe right now......, Ireland and France will give Springboks a hiding.
It came to a kick from libbok that he missed, the boks are good even if they left big guns at home.. one loss doesn't make us bad
@@conniemogale5224No…it was missed tackles, poor defence, low tackle success rate. As South Africa loves saying “defence wins games”…so this is huge reason Pumas could score 4 tries. Argentina missed kicks as well. Better team won on the day
Great Video but U forgot to mention Kurtly Arendse getting sent-off & this is when Argentina took advantage of the numbers!!!!
If the Pumas had more home games they could have won the RNC this year.
If they didn't lose the game against aus😢
I’m sure everyone would prefer more home game advantage but it’s even how they’ve balanced it out. Next year it will work out exactly the same for every other team 3 away games, 3 home games. If Argentina are going to win it they’ll have to do it like every other nation has.
Each team gets X3 home games... so your statement is not valid
Hopefully pumas win 2025
Arg are a class team and be hitting top 3 level shortly. Well ahead of NZ
I new Pumas would trim us back to size when I saw SA team. Congratulations Argentina!!!!
"Saw the team" 😂... arrogance.
Ok to try out new players during WC cycle but if they defend like amateurs they not doing themselves or Rasssie any favours... deserved win for the Los Pumas
EL RUGBY ARGENTINO ES AUN.AMATEUR. NUNCA OLVIDEN ESE DETALLLE .
Pumas had historically a great pack of forwards. But they gained confidence after they won the world rugby seven series. Now they play a lot more with their backs.
Arrogance by the Boks? Maybe they can’t just name whatever team they want and win.
Do you realise that there is something called depth building ? Slot of teams will have up and down times untill the world cup because of this every team this year has suffered a loss why cuz it's the year after a world cup
Well dine los pumas.
To scire tries like that...phenomenal.
If you win next week will be good for rugby.
Im really happy to see that in rugby there's still a comradery between fans of the sport, in football we've got a lot of unnecessary hatred. Greetings!
Appreciate this comment!
Hermosas Palabras para los Pumas, Coincido en el analisis en muchos aspectos. Los Pumas estuvieron entre los 4 mejores de un mundial en 2007, 2015 y 2023, No es mas una sorpresa, ya ha realizado grandes performances en los Mundiales. Saludos!
Argentinian here, so pleased to see that Contepomi have surpassed my expectations. Although I still like Quesada more. I've always liked South Africa, they are like our big brother in rugby as they has always lent us a hand, in fact they are the main reason why we are playing in rugby championship so I respect them a lot. But please bring Manie Libbok again for the next game, PLEASE 🙏🥺
I was there! It was worth the trip 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Great review. There is a saying back home “we can be the best and the worse with the same ease” totally applies to the Pumas. If the Pumas take their meds they could pull a win, tough but possible.
Ah we should have played Manie in the first half and Pollard off the bench 😩. Congratulations los Pumas 👏👏
You are correct
I felt Fassie should also be a first half player until he gain experience.
Agree
SA took this game too lightly despite getting off to a fast start.. They underestimated that win Argentina vs Australia that showed signs of how confident this team was building. Tactically, Argentina were so good. Their scrum was getting mauled so they did their best to avoid them and play to their strengths instead. Brilliant game by the Puma's which sets up an exciting finale next week. Go Puma.!!!
Loved your analysis mate. Props to the Argies and least we forget the rugby in Argentina isn't professional.
D9nt cry for me Argentina, I'll cry for myself😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Not a surprise, Argentina is a, very good rugby team. We accept a lose unlike another team who cry for weeks after a lose
Without a South African TMO, the springboks are on a level playing field. It's back to 15 on 15 and look what happens
Let's hope the refs and TMO are always neutral in these games from here on out
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Moerat just showed again ,he is a currie cup player at best .And Libbok just cant nail the big kicks that matters .Well done Argentinia !!!!
Remember we don't have locks. All injured.
So let him play and now we know who is world cup material
Yes. My word!!!
Exciting game! Boks will be breathing fire next week 🔥
AB's take note on how you beat that rush/offside defence, stand deep and beat them with the hands and running angles, and sort out your positions in the backline and your bench, get a better comp and get the overseas players to play again.
Haha “offside defence”, still hurting about the Freedom Cup.
Well Said and yes some good bsckline attack from pumas
Fair comment.
The Lions should travel to Argentina instead of Australia
So many Bokke fans saying it was a B team. Well played Pumas.
Of course they would claim it was a B team. There's no such thing as a B team now.
Chokers
I thought it didn't matter who they sent out 🤣
They always need something to whine about. It gets very boring.
Yup n Argentina gonna send their B team to South Africa next week 😂😂😂
Vamooooos Argentina!!!
Argentina are not a brute force team, their players are not hugh. So their game plan is running the ball and they are fast and their passing is really good. The Boks gave their young guns a run, Moerat is not really a Bok captain, but he needs more game time, Manie should not kick. Overall, good game, Pumas did well. The return game will be different, the Pumas will be tested properly.
I was at the stadium. The penalty they missed at the end was a result of extreme pressure from the crowd. You'd think that an elite player wouldn't get nervous, but the noise from the fans was exaggeratedly deafening at that moment, something they may not be used to.
Eyy I'm pissed I can't sleep and I'm doing a night shift...eish Mannie yerrr
Argentina have beat the boks 4x and boks dropped from #1
Ten changes in Bok team. Left at home to rest. After next weeks match a proper evaluation of both teams can be made. Argies played well !
The new era on Rugby players are not size …the smaller guys with more speed , agility and accuracy are now the new rugby generation, all credit to the Argentinian’s …..look at Cheslin Kolby , Antione Du Point 🏉🇳🇦
LOVE IT
Nah bro. Japan beating the Bokkie is still ranked number 1.
Betting against Argentina sounds to me like a very bad idea 🤗….. who would have thought,right?? 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷vamos argentina carajo!!
Shock? Nonsense, that implies they had no chance of winning, and no one expected them to. Pumas are always dark horses.
Boks will learn from this and bounce back. Maybe a silver lining will be that Rassie looks for an alternative to Manie.
Thanks friends💪😀🏉🇦🇷
Julian, far from me saying this was planned - I find it decidedly convenient that next weekend Etzebeth will be playing for a SA record *AND* the tournament is *NOT YET* concluded a.k.a. a dead rubber in South Africa!
Argentina remind me a lot how France used to be for decades. Absolutely deadly 1 week with often very beautiful rugby…..then flat as a pancake the next. But jeez they were good against the Boks.
Rassie should just take this is as an acceptable loss in his quest for an interchangeable 40-50 playing squad. Rotations can be a problematic quest though. In NZ, we’ve done this quite a lot over the last 25 years, and our fans don’t really like it, regardless of the probable benefits. Certainly not more than the core 23. That’s a continuity thing v building for the future.
Imagine playing the world cup these days with this Contepomi team, We could imagine to reach the final. I hope Pumas can keep doing it lie until next world cup.
Yeah the Pumas !!!
Nothing past Argentina, well done! Helps the Springboks wake up and calm down. The Springboks did NOT play well. But, and sorry to say, Libbok is not a Springbok. He is not supposed to be there. PLEASE. Dear Rassie, your view on Libbok is very faulty. You get great players in all countries who are great and worth a lot. But then make them play for Springboks, NZ, England, wherever, and then they are just not up to it. How many opportunities and chances do you get to start performing? Libbok's skills are natural, so why is he not forced to practice goal kicking 16 hours per day? No, for the Springboks, post kicking counts a lot, can win or lose a game.
Los argentinos son cracks
Was it this or was it that, or was it the betting system running in the background? What were the odds? Anyone?
It is interesting that Libbok has lost us crucial games that would have made the bookies a considerable amount of money, for example, this game and the pool game against Ireland in the World Cup. One has to wonder.
Wasn’t monumental. They can beat anyone on their day!
We'll have to see the psychological state of Argentina, if they are confident, and SA feels under pressure...mmm anything can happen. Don't forget the Pumas missed 2 or 3 shots at the posts, the difference could have been larger.
Not unexpected. Cant change 9 guys and add new guys before you take on Argies at home. Good on Rassie for having the faith, but to me was always a lose. Good on Argentina for taking the win. Hope they remain on the up. Will be good for rugby to have a more consistent Puma team
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Well done Argentina well done. Boks should have won but we didn't.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Go Pumas!!!!!
Razzie & his Bomb Squad came under rapid fire from the Argies after they led 17-0 for 15mins of the 1st half? So why did Razzie leave the kicking to Manie Libbock who missed the supposed winning goal? This is how the All Blacks lost the last RWCup to the Boks missing two convertible simple kicks so this loss is felt deeply by the Springboks all over.
Hold your horses mate..."ultimate upset"?
Slow your horses mate...you making it seem like The Puma's are Japan or something 😅
World teams are very close, a must is a reliable kicker. The boks had an easy kick to win the game and missed. So many games are won by a kick . Semi final and final of curry cup, semi final rwc , lions series, etc etc
Argentina missed kicks as well