You have to have a minimum of about 2000m² per person of food farm for a sustainable ecosystem. 10 000 inhabitants there are a need for 20 000 000m² of farms If half of the 144 levels are allocated to farms, there needs to be about 300 000m² per level. That will make the diameter of the silo at least 620m
They used hydroponic systems and grew crops all year round. Also, according to the books, the floors were 50 feet high, which allowed for multiple layers on one floor. Given that it was the future, growing technologies could be more advanced than today. The description in the books is quite believable. I think the approximate diameter of each bunker was no more than 250 m.
Great to see it back and starting at pace, I read the books a few years ago and was nervous to see them come to the small screen but the writers and creatives have knocked it out of the park.
They don’t ever really say. Nor is there room for them unless they go straight down, which doesn’t work as the digger is down there and so is the geothermal source.
I said the same thing myself in another thread. Maybe the writer of the books never clarified or maybe it is an offshoot of the TV show to try to explain where new resources come from to keep the silos operating. But regardless, there is no room for mines. And afer a point, the resources in said mines get played out. Also, said mines risk collapse which in turn risk air filtration in the silo.
"What floor do they manufacture all the replacement lightbulbs ?" In the actual book they have a vast supply department and that's where all the goods come from. Also, in the book it's been 450 years and the supply department is running low on everything, but that's a closely guarded secret.
Don't get me wrong. I like the series so far. But to believe the silos are self sufficient is insane. We are told 10k people live in silo 18. But the numbers we see don't support this. The number of people actually in this silo would be closer to 1000. None of the individual departments within the silo operations require a huge number of people to function. And even then the amount of food needed to be produced would require a food production 10 - 100X what they have in the show. The fields for example aren't even 10 acres by appearance. Then there is the "mines". An area people are sent as punishment. Yet where are they? They aren't beneath the silo and these 50 silos are so close together that there can't be mines filtering out from them in any direction. What would be more believable is if the 50 silos were interconnected with a local and central government. Each focused on a specific resource or resources to produce. No one silo is unique. Each has a backup silo to produce the same resources in case one or more failed. And yes, some of the silos would fail. The true mystery would be why the each failed and whether or not the central government had anything to do with it. And whether the central government isn't about freeing people but are simply trying to maintain control and keep status quo. I'm still trying to figure out what is killing people. It isn't radiation. But something killed all life in the surrounding area. And this area doesn't appear to get much rain.
Where are the pressure systems to maintain equal pressure throughout the structure? There would also have to be some type of service elevator systems at least between some various levels to move goods and food etc otherwise it would take forever to move anything vital between all these levels?! Why aren’t they using vertical farming which is much more efficient?
I remember in the Novel said it tooks 2hour+ for Mayor Jahn and Deputy Marhn to walk down 20 floor. and it tooks 2 days to reach from top level to the bottom floor, so i dont think 1 floor is as high as our normal floor or poorly presented in the series. so i made a calculation.. Average Walking Speed: A normal walking speed is about 1.4 meters per second (m/s). Time Taken: It takes 6 minutes to walk down one floor, which is 360 seconds. Total Distance Walked: At 1.4 m/s, the total distance walked is: 1.4 m/s × 360s = 504 meters Stair Dimensions: The average height of a step (rise) is about 0.18 meters, and the depth (run) is about 0.28 meters. Number of Steps: Each step has a run of 0.28 meters, so the number of steps is: 504 meters / 0.28 meters per step ≈ 1800 steps Vertical Height: Each step has a rise of 0.18 meters, so the vertical height is: 1800 steps × 0.18 meters per step = 324 meters So, if it takes 6 minutes to walk down one floor of a big spiral staircase, the height of one floor would be approximately 324 meters. This is quite tall for a single floor, so it's likely that the actual walking speed or stair dimensions might vary in real-life scenarios.
yes its only 1600m deep a competitive athletes would take him/her around 80min -time taken from world record- a normal person could take him/her 5-6 times so its hours not days the author not good in math he only cared about adding complexity like as if in a bunker they'll have 1 steam turbine or open steam turbine while working which is unrealistic if there's a crack on turbine enclosure it'll get shutdown cause failure mean big explosion destroy the building meanwhile they casually open the enclosure and work inside it lol
Even if I admire your effort, it is very flawed. You assume that the stairs are all the same but it's a spiral staircase and how you walk / the distance depends if you are walking on the inside or the outside of the stairs. It could be that you take 2-3 steps on the same stair before going down 1 stair step if you walk on the outside. Apart that, you assume constant velocity but many times you see a lot of people there making it difficult to walk / not a constant velocity. Last but not least, it is not like you have a clinic on every floor if something would happen so you would probably be careful to not slip and hurt yourself. What matters most is probably what most people ignore: the heat and the oxygen levels in there. Just from the body heat of 10K people, you would need a good ventilation/ cooling in there and the oxygen levels would probably be below average making it difficult to even breath. I find the idea of the video funny as well trying to find out what in every floor is in something that is improbable to work anyway for various morives: heat, air, food, water and the view things that are there are flawed as well. Example recycling and the shute: why throw things down multiple high floors if you want to try to save as much as possible? With so many redundand offices, why are there not redundand energy sources or at least emergency battery packs scattered around the silo? Don't get me wrong, i enjoy the serie but i try to not really think too much about the details of the place.
@@roseboogie75 When i worked in a high rise office we'd often walk down for lunch 18 floors using the emergency stairs to avoid waiting for the elevator and get some exercise after sitting behind a desk too long, it's a bit of effort but especially going down is almost effortless and fast, just don't run because it makes you dizzy, lol
You'd think that in the lower levels, there would be baser entertainments like bawdy theatres, exotic (cough) "entertainments" and the like. One of the odd things re the Cafe on Level 1 is that how people seem to appear from deep down there, given the importance of their work and the time taken to get up and down, it would make more sense (and I think the TV series sorts of gives the impression) that the cafe with the external video screen is replicated throughout the levels of the silo which gives the residents access to the "entertainment", this would make far more sense given the circumstances. Finally, you say the population of the silo's is 10,000, I'm fairly sure its twice that!
I read the books years ago and almost stopped in disgust at the assault on the security/admin level bit. It was so stupid. They were engineering, they had welding equipment and access to all the water and temperature pipes. A single rush with prefabricated barricades was all that was needed. Once in place the barricades can be made permanent and the water, and air if possible, can be physically disconnected. All that would then be needed is a few weeks of monitoring and reinforcing of structures if attempts at break outs were detected. No need for a single casualty.
The thing that don’t make sense is the water usage. They are underground and have access to the underground water. If that were the case, they have unlimited amount of water. The only things that they need to worry about is flooding. Water pressure is no joke.
I would think one of the levels would have a play ground, schools and other things for children. Maybe not the full level. Those facilities could be spreadout throughout the silo. I would also have areas for pubs, public fights like MMA, wrestling, or boxing. Also other sports like tennis, football, could be hosted on a level.
I haven't read the stories. The series is well done and highly entertaining. I wouldn't however spend any time doing any semi-formal analysis of the silo because, based on the description of the levels herein, it is completely untenable. There are way too many inconsistencies and basic violations of physics. Also, a fully closed loop ecosystem for 500 years or so requires technology decades, if not centuries, ahead of what we are shown. What we see throughout the silo is, at best, 1990 technology, The disk drive we see in the episodes should have at least been an SSD. The reactor in the mids is insane if the generation is in the down deep. We build datacenters these days with 2N+1 redundancy. They only have the one generator? Plenty of food, but no mention of chemical engineering required to create precursors for apothecary, plastics, metals, glass, etc. The petroleum distillates storage would have to be gargantuan in order to supply for the various products over the centuries. There would need to be chip fab for electronics. Nothing we make now lasts for hundreds of years. The silicon required is highly rare and one can't just mine it wherever. So, maybe 500 years worth of 1990 tech stored somewhere? Hmm. The mines are talked about, but they can't be below the silo, so they must be to the side, but then those other silos are awfully close. If the world was poisoned by nuclear war, then we are talking about radioactive particulates. You don't disinfect for those. They can only be washed away and stored somewhere safe. Also, those were some hellaciously dirty nukes to get 500 years of lethality. If its about radioactivity then what's the deal with the hazmat suits? Those are for gas protection. Maybe some lead in between the plastic layers? Still wouldn't be enough protection. Most nukes we currently have stockpiled would make life nasty for about 30 years or so. Sure, lots of cancer in the follow-up, but people would choose to emerge anyway. People are living in the Chernobyl exclusion zone even though they aren't supposed to. I remain entertained, but a reasonable facsimile of a biosphere - sorry, can't go that far.
The science is ridiculous as is the story. How silly can it be sending people out to wipe a camera then Julie saved by quality Scotch tape to hold her radiation suit together. Still the silo is an engineering marvel to sustain so many people with a perpetual fusion engine. It's like vertical snowpiercer complete with class conflict. You can't overthink the sci-fi part. Remember the sci-fi movies and TV shows 50s and 60s how ludicrous it seems at the time but look what we have today. So anything's possible. 😅
Then you should read the series. I’m a snob and even I enjoyed it. Most of what you find irritating is not a mistake. You’re falling for exactly what the author hoped his audience would. The books flashback to the creation of the silos, which the TV series may or may not get into, so you get a lot more backstory. The outdated tech, for example, was an intentional part of the silo design.
It is like Battlestar Galactica. We are to believe that each battlestar was self sufficient and could produce needed products as long as they could gather or receive the proper resources. But like you, the design just isn't feasible. At least in the fallout universe it is shown that the vaults failed. None of them could go on indefinitely. Some even lacked the resources to last a year. This show (and I'm assuming the books too) go with the assumption that these silos are completely self sufficient. All they need to do is manage their population density and not go beyond 10k people. They try to trick you into thinking you just go down. Eventually you can put the population of a small city in a realitive small space. But I just don't see it. The heat alone would be unbareable. A simple sickness would spread through the population like wild fire.
Why aren’t they using vertical farming which is much more efficient and grows more in small spaces? Also there has to be small elevators to move goods between levels quickly? Why is the lighting so dismal? Are there times of day with brighter lighting? It’s way too depressing for humans to survive long term in that environment!!
Air, and also distance, you need a big space for a big population to easily circulate air without needing too many vents and fans, as it can more freely move on its own and disperse and mix to maintain a more uniform air quality throughout the silo. For Distance makes it easier to control people as it will take much longer to go up or down.
So is the rest of the world destroyed or are all this people living in a radiation exclusion zone around the ruins of Atlanta and have no idea the rest of the world is still fine.
Also you can rule out radiation since our modern radiation exclusion zones are hysterical. Chernobyl and Fukushima zones are not unsafe anymore and at the event of a nuclear war, most locations would be safe re-emerge after 2 weeks as long as you're not located at the blast radius or a hundred kilometers downwind from it. We simply don't have currently any weapons that could cause this level of devastation for such a period.
@@Bleys001 then why say anything. I always see comments complaining about spoilers but A. The series will be at least slightly different from the books and B. Don't watch lore videos if you don't want to find out what could happen. Logic.
@Ultrameowmeow these types of videos usually cover what has happened so far in the show, with loads of speculation on what's to come. Not sure why you're so offended and compelled to bitch at people who may be irritated with spoilers.
Oh no see i knew it i keep telling my kids reading dem artifacts called books gonna cause the tism. I appriciate your candor. YOU ARE AN INSPRIRATION Sir!! Enjoy your homo soup and keep on groaning without shame! Trying to communicate is better then not trying at all ❤
Omg as someone who’s only seen the show, can I had spoilers? Oh I’m gonna guess. Massive cooperations took over and used the fact they destroyed the planet to do experiments on everyone? Maybe that’s fallout, idk but f$&k cooperations. We all share the same planet when will we finally learn to share together?
Havent watched the show, hell the only thing I've seen of this show is this breakdown. But one has to find it just a bit sus that "conveniently" just after they finish these "not bunkers" that work quite perfectly as bunkers, theres a nuclear attack... Well I'm a third of the way through, hoping I learn more about the Silos than just the dirt farm and the gym 😅
The reader/viewer, I think in the novels, the stairs ran around the outside of the silo, rather than in the middle, in the series, the characters seem to move much more quickly up and down the Silo than in the book. It also would seem odd that the inhabitants din't adopt a system of parachutes or fishing rod type devices to move information up and down the Silo, they could have developed a simple counterweighted elevator system, but probably IT would prevent that, remember "Judicial" didnt exist in the books/.
I don’t like spending a lot of time underground. I don’t like shows with too much dark filming. I don’t like shows with sex scenes. I don’t like shows with too much dialogue. Shows that are made with DEI standards infuriates me. Silo is not something I can recommend to people I know.
Actually that’s a good point if they are almost a mile deep, there would have to be a serious pressure system to keep it fairly equal throughout. Also moving goods and food etc would have to have at least service elevators like dumb waiters between various levels or it would take days to move anything that is vital.
Well some levels have got to have some prostitutes, male and female. Some levels should have spa area, sauna, massage and medicals. Definitely more than one swimming area, but how would the structure handle all that water. One level should be for complaints
50 silos, so close together, each with a giant machine at the bottom a mile down. With unlimited money we would still need advanced alien tech. But my engineering experience comes from working in a grocery store so I might be wrong.🙂
Spoiler. My guess 89 trillion. Got a lot of things stored in there computer servers, screens, cameras, space suits, fuel and giant diggers, bombs, Guns. Nitrogen gases with nanotech machines. future technology in silo 1 deep sleep beds and the trained work force.
Compared to other excavation projects, like the Big Dig, which cost $33B in todays money (mostly because of incompetence and corruption, not because of actual cost), I’d say probably 1/3rd to 1/2 that per silo. Call it $15B so $750B
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@ICU1337 I'm from🇨🇦. You do Know the internet is worldwide. I don't know who all your politicians are or what they say. I know that my country has a problem with the crazy woke movement. I don't think you know too much of anything.
Posting these with spoilers right in the thumbnails is just straight idiotic. Give people a chance to follow you but still have the choice to see or not see stuff that hasn't developed yet. Is it ignorance or apathy on your part?
Good lord man, save some time and don't insert your generic plug when you reach an "unknown" floor. JUST SKIP IT! Wrapping it up with an encouragement to comment about what WE think is just boring!
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You people are ridiculous. If you don't want spoilers sit on your thumbs and wait til each week releases or wait til January. This channel clearly has more in depth material and the whining is just absurd.
You have to have a minimum of about 2000m² per person of food farm for a sustainable ecosystem.
10 000 inhabitants there are a need for 20 000 000m² of farms
If half of the 144 levels are allocated to farms, there needs to be about 300 000m² per level.
That will make the diameter of the silo at least 620m
They used hydroponic systems and grew crops all year round. Also, according to the books, the floors were 50 feet high, which allowed for multiple layers on one floor. Given that it was the future, growing technologies could be more advanced than today. The description in the books is quite believable. I think the approximate diameter of each bunker was no more than 250 m.
Someone should create a 3D model of the Silo to explore it, say with Unreal Engine.
No
why
Would love to 3D print this..
I want to build it on Project Zomboid :)
That would be awesome
Great to see it back and starting at pace, I read the books a few years ago and was nervous to see them come to the small screen but the writers and creatives have knocked it out of the park.
So is it true to the books or did they change any major story lines. TV shows often change the books to make it more interesting and less predictable.
I hope there isn't a level 42 ... sounds crap to me
@@jonfreeman9682Only small things really do far such like solos background nothing that affects the story.
Level 42 was where the bass guitars were stored.
It also contains the answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything.
That's a fantastic shout my friend
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So where are the mines located?
They don’t ever really say. Nor is there room for them unless they go straight down, which doesn’t work as the digger is down there and so is the geothermal source.
I said the same thing myself in another thread. Maybe the writer of the books never clarified or maybe it is an offshoot of the TV show to try to explain where new resources come from to keep the silos operating. But regardless, there is no room for mines. And afer a point, the resources in said mines get played out. Also, said mines risk collapse which in turn risk air filtration in the silo.
A few of those unknown levels have to be the Soylent Green processing stations...
We know 122 is a farm... as was stated in the control room when the barricade was moved from 130 to 120.
What floor do they manufacture all the replacement lightbulbs ?
I believe they finally came out with light bulbs that don't burn out like the first Edison light that is still working today over 100 years later.
"What floor do they manufacture all the replacement lightbulbs ?"
In the actual book they have a vast supply department and that's where all the goods come from. Also, in the book it's been 450 years and the supply department is running low on everything, but that's a closely guarded secret.
Silo seems to be a great movie. BUT no one would build a steam turbine with no way to bypass the steam so you could work on it.
It's a tv series based on the books
Don't get me wrong. I like the series so far.
But to believe the silos are self sufficient is insane. We are told 10k people live in silo 18. But the numbers we see don't support this. The number of people actually in this silo would be closer to 1000. None of the individual departments within the silo operations require a huge number of people to function. And even then the amount of food needed to be produced would require a food production 10 - 100X what they have in the show. The fields for example aren't even 10 acres by appearance.
Then there is the "mines". An area people are sent as punishment. Yet where are they? They aren't beneath the silo and these 50 silos are so close together that there can't be mines filtering out from them in any direction.
What would be more believable is if the 50 silos were interconnected with a local and central government. Each focused on a specific resource or resources to produce. No one silo is unique. Each has a backup silo to produce the same resources in case one or more failed. And yes, some of the silos would fail.
The true mystery would be why the each failed and whether or not the central government had anything to do with it. And whether the central government isn't about freeing people but are simply trying to maintain control and keep status quo.
I'm still trying to figure out what is killing people. It isn't radiation. But something killed all life in the surrounding area. And this area doesn't appear to get much rain.
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Where are the pressure systems to maintain equal pressure throughout the structure? There would also have to be some type of service elevator systems at least between some various levels to move goods and food etc otherwise it would take forever to move anything vital between all these levels?! Why aren’t they using vertical farming which is much more efficient?
I remember in the Novel said it tooks 2hour+ for Mayor Jahn and Deputy Marhn to walk down 20 floor. and it tooks 2 days to reach from top level to the bottom floor, so i dont think 1 floor is as high as our normal floor or poorly presented in the series. so i made a calculation..
Average Walking Speed: A normal walking speed is about 1.4 meters per second (m/s).
Time Taken: It takes 6 minutes to walk down one floor, which is 360 seconds.
Total Distance Walked: At 1.4 m/s, the total distance walked is:
1.4 m/s × 360s = 504 meters
Stair Dimensions: The average height of a step (rise) is about 0.18 meters, and the depth (run) is about 0.28 meters.
Number of Steps: Each step has a run of 0.28 meters, so the number of steps is:
504 meters / 0.28 meters per step ≈ 1800 steps
Vertical Height: Each step has a rise of 0.18 meters, so the vertical height is:
1800 steps × 0.18 meters per step = 324 meters
So, if it takes 6 minutes to walk down one floor of a big spiral staircase, the height of one floor would be approximately 324 meters. This is quite tall for a single floor, so it's likely that the actual walking speed or stair dimensions might vary in real-life scenarios.
yes its only 1600m deep a competitive athletes would take him/her around 80min -time taken from world record- a normal person could take him/her 5-6 times so its hours not days the author not good in math he only cared about adding complexity like as if in a bunker they'll have 1 steam turbine or open steam turbine while working which is unrealistic if there's a crack on turbine enclosure it'll get shutdown cause failure mean big explosion destroy the building meanwhile they casually open the enclosure and work inside it lol
Even if I admire your effort, it is very flawed.
You assume that the stairs are all the same but it's a spiral staircase and how you walk / the distance depends if you are walking on the inside or the outside of the stairs. It could be that you take 2-3 steps on the same stair before going down 1 stair step if you walk on the outside.
Apart that, you assume constant velocity but many times you see a lot of people there making it difficult to walk / not a constant velocity.
Last but not least, it is not like you have a clinic on every floor if something would happen so you would probably be careful to not slip and hurt yourself.
What matters most is probably what most people ignore: the heat and the oxygen levels in there.
Just from the body heat of 10K people, you would need a good ventilation/ cooling in there and the oxygen levels would probably be below average making it difficult to even breath.
I find the idea of the video funny as well trying to find out what in every floor is in something that is improbable to work anyway for various morives: heat, air, food, water and the view things that are there are flawed as well. Example recycling and the shute: why throw things down multiple high floors if you want to try to save as much as possible?
With so many redundand offices, why are there not redundand energy sources or at least emergency battery packs scattered around the silo?
Don't get me wrong, i enjoy the serie but i try to not really think too much about the details of the place.
Need to account for a slower pace due to stamina limitations, stops for breaks, meals, rest, and sleep.
@@roseboogie75 When i worked in a high rise office we'd often walk down for lunch 18 floors using the emergency stairs to avoid waiting for the elevator and get some exercise after sitting behind a desk too long, it's a bit of effort but especially going down is almost effortless and fast, just don't run because it makes you dizzy, lol
with all the snakes already occupying the silo they don’t need any serpentarium on any level
You'd think that in the lower levels, there would be baser entertainments like bawdy theatres, exotic (cough) "entertainments" and the like. One of the odd things re the Cafe on Level 1 is that how people seem to appear from deep down there, given the importance of their work and the time taken to get up and down, it would make more sense (and I think the TV series sorts of gives the impression) that the cafe with the external video screen is replicated throughout the levels of the silo which gives the residents access to the "entertainment", this would make far more sense given the circumstances. Finally, you say the population of the silo's is 10,000, I'm fairly sure its twice that!
Omg dont say that ... yah he said he wants to go out tell the authorities!
great job! thank you
Level 42 is for the best bass guitar players. It's where they give "Lessons in Love", "Hot Water" and "Running in the Family".
Not mentioned but each silo has a Starbucks on every level.
In the last episode the doctor did mention he was on a coffee rush still late at night ...
Deep downs got Dunkin instead
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Hmmm....Underground Sharknado, you say? Hm....Ok. I'm in! Hell, might be the last time we get to see Tara Reid!
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Where was the access to the mines?
I thought level 69 would be more fun than Deep Freeze
Intersting, how much energy would be required to keep it cool enought to support life.
I’m waiting to hear about Level 42
With a community of over 10,000 people my guess of the unknown levels are simple apartments. Gotsta put all the people somewhere.
I read the books years ago and almost stopped in disgust at the assault on the security/admin level bit. It was so stupid. They were engineering, they had welding equipment and access to all the water and temperature pipes. A single rush with prefabricated barricades was all that was needed. Once in place the barricades can be made permanent and the water, and air if possible, can be physically disconnected. All that would then be needed is a few weeks of monitoring and reinforcing of structures if attempts at break outs were detected. No need for a single casualty.
Thank, man. This video is next level.
Lol
woof woof woof, mister woofy kept interjecting during the video.
The thing that don’t make sense is the water usage. They are underground and have access to the underground water. If that were the case, they have unlimited amount of water. The only things that they need to worry about is flooding. Water pressure is no joke.
Perhaps groundwater is contaminated?
@@burntorangehorn I'm pretty sure that's impossible at least with groundwater streams (the movement itself is a filtration process).
It seems like a preview of how we would react if we actually did have to live in a silo
I would think one of the levels would have a play ground, schools and other things for children. Maybe not the full level. Those facilities could be spreadout throughout the silo. I would also have areas for pubs, public fights like MMA, wrestling, or boxing. Also other sports like tennis, football, could be hosted on a level.
No! WHY! Did you say you want to go out? GUYS HE SAID HE WANTS TO GO OUT! They heard him too...
I like this series, and this video was an awesome watch, I might seek out the books after watching this - ty!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I guess everyone is a vegetarian, no one ever eats in this show
what level are the mines ?
All the levels when you are brave enough.
I haven't read the stories. The series is well done and highly entertaining. I wouldn't however spend any time doing any semi-formal analysis of the silo because, based on the description of the levels herein, it is completely untenable. There are way too many inconsistencies and basic violations of physics. Also, a fully closed loop ecosystem for 500 years or so requires technology decades, if not centuries, ahead of what we are shown. What we see throughout the silo is, at best, 1990 technology, The disk drive we see in the episodes should have at least been an SSD. The reactor in the mids is insane if the generation is in the down deep. We build datacenters these days with 2N+1 redundancy. They only have the one generator? Plenty of food, but no mention of chemical engineering required to create precursors for apothecary, plastics, metals, glass, etc. The petroleum distillates storage would have to be gargantuan in order to supply for the various products over the centuries. There would need to be chip fab for electronics. Nothing we make now lasts for hundreds of years. The silicon required is highly rare and one can't just mine it wherever. So, maybe 500 years worth of 1990 tech stored somewhere? Hmm. The mines are talked about, but they can't be below the silo, so they must be to the side, but then those other silos are awfully close. If the world was poisoned by nuclear war, then we are talking about radioactive particulates. You don't disinfect for those. They can only be washed away and stored somewhere safe. Also, those were some hellaciously dirty nukes to get 500 years of lethality. If its about radioactivity then what's the deal with the hazmat suits? Those are for gas protection. Maybe some lead in between the plastic layers? Still wouldn't be enough protection. Most nukes we currently have stockpiled would make life nasty for about 30 years or so. Sure, lots of cancer in the follow-up, but people would choose to emerge anyway. People are living in the Chernobyl exclusion zone even though they aren't supposed to. I remain entertained, but a reasonable facsimile of a biosphere - sorry, can't go that far.
The science is ridiculous as is the story. How silly can it be sending people out to wipe a camera then Julie saved by quality Scotch tape to hold her radiation suit together. Still the silo is an engineering marvel to sustain so many people with a perpetual fusion engine. It's like vertical snowpiercer complete with class conflict. You can't overthink the sci-fi part. Remember the sci-fi movies and TV shows 50s and 60s how ludicrous it seems at the time but look what we have today. So anything's possible. 😅
Then you should read the series. I’m a snob and even I enjoyed it. Most of what you find irritating is not a mistake. You’re falling for exactly what the author hoped his audience would.
The books flashback to the creation of the silos, which the TV series may or may not get into, so you get a lot more backstory. The outdated tech, for example, was an intentional part of the silo design.
@@ebrennieThis. He would love the books.
Please do yourself a favor and read the books. It will make sense.
It is like Battlestar Galactica. We are to believe that each battlestar was self sufficient and could produce needed products as long as they could gather or receive the proper resources.
But like you, the design just isn't feasible. At least in the fallout universe it is shown that the vaults failed. None of them could go on indefinitely. Some even lacked the resources to last a year. This show (and I'm assuming the books too) go with the assumption that these silos are completely self sufficient. All they need to do is manage their population density and not go beyond 10k people. They try to trick you into thinking you just go down. Eventually you can put the population of a small city in a realitive small space. But I just don't see it. The heat alone would be unbareable. A simple sickness would spread through the population like wild fire.
I wish they wouldn’t trickle out the episodes.
Stairs....strands of dna
Whats the reactor in 1 for if each has a generator?
Why aren’t they using vertical farming which is much more efficient and grows more in small spaces? Also there has to be small elevators to move goods between levels quickly? Why is the lighting so dismal? Are there times of day with brighter lighting? It’s way too depressing for humans to survive long term in that environment!!
In case of a crisis, they want it difficult to move a huge crowd of people up levels quickly, therefore, no elevators.
Maybe there would be a bank of some sorts to maintain the chits - their currency?
Why are the levels 40 feet high, thats 4 stories!
Air, and also distance, you need a big space for a big population to easily circulate air without needing too many vents and fans, as it can more freely move on its own and disperse and mix to maintain a more uniform air quality throughout the silo.
For Distance makes it easier to control people as it will take much longer to go up or down.
So is the rest of the world destroyed or are all this people living in a radiation exclusion zone around the ruins of Atlanta and have no idea the rest of the world is still fine.
Gotta read the books for that info or wait until the series explains it.
Also you can rule out radiation since our modern radiation exclusion zones are hysterical. Chernobyl and Fukushima zones are not unsafe anymore and at the event of a nuclear war, most locations would be safe re-emerge after 2 weeks as long as you're not located at the blast radius or a hundred kilometers downwind from it. We simply don't have currently any weapons that could cause this level of devastation for such a period.
Maybe put a casino,distillery and some bars on ghe unknown floors?
Floor 14 is were the poison at too
Season 2 episode 6 it is revealed that level 122 is a farm level 28:45
Great deep dive. To viewers - if you haven't read the books, read the books! 📚
There shouldn't be any overweight people in the Silo
17:36 Bout a thousand days ago.
Weird that the mines are never shown where they are it’s annoying an annoying oversight
Wow, should warn for spoilers for season 3!
Wahhh wahhh-aaaahhh
@Ultrameowmeow I've read the books, so it doesn't bother me.
@@Bleys001 then why say anything. I always see comments complaining about spoilers but A. The series will be at least slightly different from the books and B. Don't watch lore videos if you don't want to find out what could happen. Logic.
@Ultrameowmeow these types of videos usually cover what has happened so far in the show, with loads of speculation on what's to come. Not sure why you're so offended and compelled to bitch at people who may be irritated with spoilers.
@Bleys001 nice try but false.
Is that the bird from snowpiercer
Big invest this technology reality please sir please
All of us who read the books ten years ago: **rrrrrrrrgh**
Oh no see i knew it i keep telling my kids reading dem artifacts called books gonna cause the tism. I appriciate your candor. YOU ARE AN INSPRIRATION Sir!! Enjoy your homo soup and keep on groaning without shame! Trying to communicate is better then not trying at all ❤
Omg as someone who’s only seen the show, can I had spoilers? Oh I’m gonna guess. Massive cooperations took over and used the fact they destroyed the planet to do experiments on everyone? Maybe that’s fallout, idk but f$&k cooperations. We all share the same planet when will we finally learn to share together?
@@raymondjackWe're not all hippies and you all can share what hasn't already been taken.
@@raymondjack en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_(series)#Shift
No one else click that link.
@@raymondjackoh sweet baby child of mine. You are almost there but still too far from the actually storyline haha!
Havent watched the show, hell the only thing I've seen of this show is this breakdown. But one has to find it just a bit sus that "conveniently" just after they finish these "not bunkers" that work quite perfectly as bunkers, theres a nuclear attack...
Well I'm a third of the way through, hoping I learn more about the Silos than just the dirt farm and the gym 😅
The “convenience” becomes clear once you read the books, which the creator of this video clearly has not.
@@ralfmazet9956 hmmmm looks like I'm going to be looking for more on this 😅 It seems like the book series still isnt complete, is that correct?
Are the "unknown" levels just unknown to the reader/viewer or the characters as well?
The reader/viewer, I think in the novels, the stairs ran around the outside of the silo, rather than in the middle, in the series, the characters seem to move much more quickly up and down the Silo than in the book. It also would seem odd that the inhabitants din't adopt a system of parachutes or fishing rod type devices to move information up and down the Silo, they could have developed a simple counterweighted elevator system, but probably IT would prevent that, remember "Judicial" didnt exist in the books/.
@@casinodelongethe porters guild will destroy any attempt to build elevators and communication systems
@@thomasstevenhebert fair comment!
With 10,000 people living in the silo I would assume many of the "unkown" levels are just residential
25:28 No one with an inch of synapse length would allow an uncontrollable narrative, spreading amongst such a tidy controlled group🤣
Needed unknown levels:
Down deep - strip club and distillery
mids - brewery
up top - winery
can i dub in my local language ???
THE ALIENS DID it's a human ZOO😤
69.4 Room per level.
Martha Walker's "ex-wife"? Another attempt at slipping in an "alternative lifestyle" plot line.
Plenty of that crap in the show, where else they going to get the venture capital funding?
wonder were the brothel was lol
I don’t like spending a lot of time underground. I don’t like shows with too much dark filming. I don’t like shows with sex scenes. I don’t like shows with too much dialogue. Shows that are made with DEI standards infuriates me. Silo is not something I can recommend to people I know.
I can’t tell if this is satire
Farm animals?
PS - spoiler warnings????
Its from 2023...
Call the wahhhmbulance 🚑
@@callumthorpe3734 Here in the UK, the first 2eprisodes of S2 dropped last week, definitely 2024.
My only major thought is the bends. Same as a suba diver. You are so deep in the ground you couldn't come up or down fast.
You arent affected by pressure like you are in water
Actually that’s a good point if they are almost a mile deep, there would have to be a serious pressure system to keep it fairly equal throughout. Also moving goods and food etc would have to have at least service elevators like dumb waiters between various levels or it would take days to move anything that is vital.
Sure you are pressure is pressure no matter what!
no metric conversion across the video had me 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
Well some levels have got to have some prostitutes, male and female. Some levels should have spa area, sauna, massage and medicals. Definitely more than one swimming area, but how would the structure handle all that water. One level should be for complaints
New to this channel. Is this a sister channel of Heavy Spoilers? Sounds like Paul aka Your Friendly Neighbourhood Spoilerman
what would it cost in todays world to build 50 silos
50 silos, so close together, each with a giant machine at the bottom a mile down. With unlimited money we would still need advanced alien tech. But my engineering experience comes from working in a grocery store so I might be wrong.🙂
@scotthilderman6365 given the fact that they were built in the 2050's id say a good round about figure of 10 trillion for all 50 Silos
Spoiler. My guess 89 trillion. Got a lot of things stored in there computer servers, screens, cameras, space suits, fuel and giant diggers, bombs, Guns. Nitrogen gases with nanotech machines. future technology in silo 1 deep sleep beds and the trained work force.
@@scotthilderman6365 😀
Compared to other excavation projects, like the Big Dig, which cost $33B in todays money (mostly because of incompetence and corruption, not because of actual cost), I’d say probably 1/3rd to 1/2 that per silo. Call it $15B so $750B
Level 42 is sons and daughters and other crap like that
A zoom on 65 ha?.😂😂😂wit peapole?..inside cause animal's aren't existent.. remember ?😂😂😂😂😂😂
So level 1 is at the top? And 144 is at the bottom? Annoying, that's not the way high rises work.
Huh
Basement levels number downwards.
You're building down, not building up.
Well, it's not a high rise is it?
@@matthewallen2273 "4 Empire State Buildings". Not "a" high rise, but high rise based.
Whatever...
what's with the barking dog. it's very annoying, get rid of it. are are the levels the same size?
Is that?
A pride flag on the crows nest level. God, those mentally ill people made it down there.Let me out I will deal with The surface.
Wheres Nancy Mace when you need her to make up important legislative issues "for the people".
@@ICU1337 What the hell are you talking about?
@@lesbooth2837 I guess I know more than you on the topic that you brought up. Well, thats awkward...
@ICU1337 You do realize the internet is worldwide i'm from.🇨🇦
YOU 🤡. I don't know who all 🇺🇲 politicians are or what they say.
My country has its own problems with the mentally ill pride movement.
To tell you the truth, I don't think you know much of anything.
@ICU1337 I'm from🇨🇦. You do
Know the internet is worldwide. I don't know who all your politicians are or what they say. I know that my country has a problem with the crazy woke movement. I don't think you know too much of anything.
Posting these with spoilers right in the thumbnails is just straight idiotic. Give people a chance to follow you but still have the choice to see or not see stuff that hasn't developed yet. Is it ignorance or apathy on your part?
The Silo was created with CGI and lots of AI graphic rendering.
Good lord man, save some time and don't insert your generic plug when you reach an "unknown" floor. JUST SKIP IT! Wrapping it up with an encouragement to comment about what WE think is just boring!
You ruined the show for me thanks..
That sounds stinks the show got ruined for you. I don't think it warns of future spoilers very well.
Aso allot of shity idea implementation...all pc's are NETX STATION 1 like..but with some sort of UNIX OS..wtf?..UNIX os wit videos and shit?...OLED and reactors with a generator based ON STEAM but DETACHABLE panels? 😂😂😂wtf since when you detach panels on a reactors that CAN'T be opened nitles to say dat NO generator sound like a jet eingine WITH OPENED PANELS AND NO STEAM..REALY?😂😂😂 kid lift a blade dst weight 2 tons?..really?..😂😂😂Incinerate atmosfere?..and more shit?😂😂😂unknown levels..at dat JUDICIAL and IT department..😂😂😂😂😂not to mention the cameras😂😂😂with red lights in them ha?😂😂😂nano robots but steam generators. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂wtf?...
3 ESB..ha...dat's in EU 4 km..allmost..ive made 30 km.in on3 day...😂😂😂😂😂on FOOT..imagine a Guy like.me HOW MICH TAKE TO REALIZE dat SILO..isn't dat big...😂😂😂😂wtf?...totaly shit made serial man..😂😂😂😂
Your unknown levels are lies..unknown with full of curiers and IT department?...really?😂😂
In 2049, I will be 62.
Thank you for spoilers 🤦 If i wanted to get spoilers I'd read the books
Its from 2023...
You people are ridiculous. If you don't want spoilers sit on your thumbs and wait til each week releases or wait til January. This channel clearly has more in depth material and the whining is just absurd.
then why did you watch this?? i seems like you create most of your own problems imo
What did you expect?
boring
40 sec you and ask for a like... hell no.