Ton 618 vs phoenix A Black Hole Size Comparison | 3d Animation Comparison
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- Ton 618 vs phoenix A Black hole size comparison | 3d Animation Comparison
In this video we made 3d Comparison of biggest black holes and this is true real scale comparison of ton 618 vs phoenix a Black hole.
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Keep in mind these arent how big these massive giants are but actually how big they were billions of years ago this could be 10x bigger now
And to think, despite that absolutely unfathomable size, the universe is so large that we'd probably never even have to worry about these things getting big enough to swallow the earth. Hell, we're only seeing them as they were aeons ago. Crazy.
Do you want me to do the math for you just really tell how big they got
@@astronaut_11 yes
we see that we see black holes from 13,000,000,000 years ago.Phoenix A* is growing by 60
SM / year.
However, it was relevant 5.86B years ago, but, anyway, let's still assume:
100B SM + (5.86B yr & 60 SM) -
By the same analogy, it took light 10.8 years to reach an observer on Earth.
So «66B SM» mass was 10.8B years ago
Unfortunately, there's no information about TON 618's growing rate, but let's estimate it to 50 SM / year
66B SM + (10.8B yr × 50 SM) -
TON 618 is 606,000,000,000 SM!
@@astronaut_11 damn so its bigger now than pheonix A was when we saw it at the same time.
I wonder if there’s a black hole out there that’s even bigger than Phoenix A? Space is awesome but also frightening
yes there are bigger black holes because Pheonix A* is only biggest 𝗱𝗶𝘀𝗰𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱 black hole
Sdssj1408 exists
@@chilleduchiha8224 never heard of it. So it’s bigger than Phoenix A?
@@aamirrazak3467 Yea you should look it up
@@chilleduchiha8224 The black hole in the quasar SDSS J140821.67+025733.2 has been reported to have a mass of 1.96 × 10^11 M⊙ based on measurements from the SDSS DR12 Quasar Catalog. As a result, references to this object as the most massive known black hole in the universe have recently appeared in scientific articles and in popular media including Wikipedia. We show that this extremely high mass estimate is incorrect, resulting from a faulty measurement of the C IV line width. From a new measurement of the Mg II line width, we derive an estimate of MBH ≈ 8 × 109 M⊙.
-RNAAS
its crazy how your mind stops working when you try to imagine how big that is
Fr bro like i just cant imagine that like its like eternity
.exe has stopped working 😂
Just imagine it in the speed of light. Light travels around our earth 7.5 times in one sec, around 300k km/s and take the size of Phoenix A being 590B km divide that by 300k to get 1,968,333 seconds for light to travel across Phoenix A. Remember it takes 1 sec for it to travel around our equator 7.5 times. Still insane to fathom such a size. It'll take light almost ~ 1368 days, so 3.7 years for it to go from one end to another 🧍🏻♂️
Phoenix A is twice as big as our solar system, no biggie 💀💀
Mine doesnt
Makes you wonder what an *incomprehensible* amount of mass/planets/stars must have been absorbed by the 2 in order to reach such an insane size.
The theory is that they were formed in the early universe when matter was much more abundant because of the formed like typical black holes they would never get that big.
@@Jarmsikthey will get that big. but they just haven't had enough time to get as big as phoenix a
@@Ackso5They probably won't get that big. Space has expanded so much -and will continue to expand so quickly- that they likely won't ever be able to encounter enough material to grow that large before they evaporate
About 10 of the mass in the milky way
Current theories think that these black holes were formed in the early universe. At the time there were stars that were many times bigger than even the largest stars today forming much larger black holes that happened to be much closer to each other. They would have had time to combine and form the largest black holes today.
Tried simulating the size of the solar system compared to TON 618 in affinity designer. The application didn’t have enough space on its max canvas, even after making the Sun the smallest possible unit.
haha
Are you gay?
11 solar system would fit side by side in ton 618
@@avengersendgame9706 I wonder how much space is inside TON 618
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At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the universe itself was a black hole
How does that make sense?
@@cerovk6000 We don’t know where a black hole leads past the event horizon, although one theory states it’s a wormhole. Dr. Nikodem Poplawski proposes the idea that “we might be living inside a rebounded black hole that exists in a different universe, whatever that means. Maybe look into it.
Well thats the idea their throwing out there rn. What if blackholes are gateways to whole other universes. Their saying what if their like wormholes in a sense because theoretically the blackhole has to shoot that matter somewhere
Look up "black hole cosmology".
Dark matter
Big thank you to the brave cameraman who filmed this for us
The camera guy is the best astronaut in history
@@XavieRFCB2004 fr
Read read the clip 3D animation ;-;
@@sanssnajth7881 its a joke
@@lilluthegreat123 i know
Fun fact the camera zoom out speed is going faster than light
Only a couple million light years per frame. No biggie
Unfun fact: It's just an edit
@@StridersBored a couple million light years is faster than the speed of light💀💀💀
@@Molds_s by a multitude of millions too
@@Molds_s mistake. Light year is distance. Speed of light refers to velocity jaja
Phoenix a: hello little boy
Ton 618: ☠️
Phoenix A isn't that much bigger than ton618 only 37b solor masses
Ton 618 after: Hello little boy
Phoenix A*: 💀
it's crazy that the thing that holds our galaxy together Sagittarius A* holds 100 billion stars in a disc, is dwarfed in size by a star
Actually what "holds" our galaxy is dark matter/energy
@@memorivas7515 yeah but but the thing that spins our galaxy is Sagittarius A
@@memorivas7515 that's called Jesus and i hope you repent for your sins after seeing the power of Christ and the swarm of blackholes that can threaten our civilization but does not because we are God's children.
@@lostpockets2227 actually the sun will explode first before a blackhole could threaten us
@@memorivas7515 no that's not entirely true because there is a thing called Roaming Black holes. As angels of God we will never succumb to the wills of the Universe because the Universe is God and we are made in the image of God.
Mass of Each Celestial Body:
Earth: 1 earth.
Jupiter: 317.932 earths.
Sun: 333,000 earths.
Sagittarius A*: 4,000,000 solar masses.
Stephenson 2-18: ~20 solar masses.
TON 618: 66,000,000,000 solar masses.
Pheonix A*: 100,000,000,000,000 solar masses.
Fact: The mass of Pheonix A* actually is as massive as 10% of the Milky Way!
The black part in the animation is only the extent of their event horizons. The shadow of the Black Hole (the black part we "see" in depictions ) is 2x the size of the actual event horizon so these are all visually undersized.
Can u please explain? I'm confused
@@hassegawamkt What is depicted in this video is the true size of the black holes event horizon without the gravitation lensing (visual distortion) that come with it. Due to their immense gravity, they bend light away from the immediate area around the event horizon thus casting a shadow "around" the hole which make the "hole" look larger than it actually is..
svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/13326 gives a good video on it.
@@hassegawamktBassically they are far bigger than they seem
@@hassegawamkta black hole doesn't give of light, all were seeing is it's food drifting around it, their is no real way to measure a black hole, or it's attraction power, so we measure what we can see.
That is just scary. Love your videos ❤️
I dare not imagine the size of the star that gave birth to such a monster
It grew to that size through feeding on matter, and possibly through mergers with other black holes.
@@Raphael4722there is a theory that there were stars bigger than Stephenson 2-18 at the beginning of the universes history. It helps explain why super massive and ultra massive black holes exist (to an extent) since our current universe is too young to have these black holes that big through just absorbing matter and merging of black holes.
@@Raphael4722 blackhole stars from the beginning of the universe. look it up, you'll be suprised
There was talk about this. Black holes that size shouldn't exist given the age of our universe. These were more likely created through just an intense concentration of matter and energy and skipped the decaying star aspect completely.
Sorry Phoenix, but Ton 618 is still our gargantuan legend.
No it ain’t phoenix A is the universe king now
i agree
Ton will always be the queen of the universe
Agree but only the phoenix is not confirmed
Agreed, Phoenix might be slightly bigger but Ton is still more iconic.
@@Ivon_da_planet did you learn solar masses anyways? TON 618 has 66B Solar Masses. And Phoenix A has 100B.
When the Largest black hole gets dethroned:
I can't imagine that Stephenson 2-18 is so much bigger than Sagittarius A black hole!!!!!😮
No sabia que había un agujero negro del tamaño de la tierra, jaja magistral
Y yo que creía que betelguese era imposible de superar
The scary part is that Phoenix A is still growing
And what we can see of it, is from billions of years ago due to how long its taken the light to get here. They do think there is a limit to the size of ultra massive black holes tho.
And the image is from billions of years ago, I mean they might have used some math to predict its present size but there can be errors, which means it might be bigger
It's probably been doing this for trillions of years what makes you think it will stop now?
scary part is that ton 618 is bigger
Ton 618 is billions of light years farther away than Phoenix A* making it younger than the younger Phoenix A*.
Which also makes his size bigger when we compare them at their present stage, which is now.
They'd be billions of years older
And what NASA detected is them billions of years younger
TON 618 will always be the big Boy in my ❤
ton 618 is still the big boy! Ton's 18 billion light years away and phoenix a is only 5.8 billion light years away. Phoenix a isn't that much bigger. If they were side by side at 5.8 billion light years, Ton would be way bigger than it.
Phoenix ais only theorized to be larger there is no proof of it's size
Well no ton 618 its not bigger Phoenix A is bigger while ton 618 its mass 66 billion meanwhile with Phoenix A it's 100 billion mass
@@brohehehe3401 There is no proof that phoenix a is 100 billion solar masses. It is a false and outdated speculation.
@@brohehehe3401 they just recently brought phoneix As down to 20 billion.
The strange part is that there are no intermediate black holes at all.
There are relative small black holes, some a little bigger, followed by a huge gap and super massive black holes. As if the super massive ones where produced in an instant and by a very different process as the smaller ones
This tells us that their formation was different than the typical black holes we see today.
@@alanboody7004 yeah
Wow.....that must have took you a while to check the whole multiverse.... you mong!!!
Perhaps there are objects that are many times larger than Phoenix A, but which man has not yet been able to detect
Si un ejemplo el gran atractor es mucho más grande
The great attractor is a supercluster not a object
0:39 :The last time I saw Stephenson 2-18 compared to the sun actually made me pee myself but now I realised how small stars like that actually are
Wow you seem to pee yourself often
Superaron a mi querido Ton618.
If Phoenix A is the largest, ton 618 is not. I just saw headlines for an article that says Ton 618 was the largest. Thank you for educating us about the heavens.
. RIP .
TON 618
(1957-2010)
Respect for the cameraman 💪
Respect for the ant collection 💪
no im not respecting cameraman since its not real
Sorry but the newest data on Phoenix A says it has 8 Billion solar masses so TON 618 is the biggest now
I've seen it being 20 billion solar masses 8 billion, 13 billion, 42 billion and even 19 billion wherever y'all got your info is wrong
Here I am, adding water to my soap dispenser realizing, damn. I’m small.
People who named these black holes are true legend
"Lets name a black hole after jonhny's fat mama"
"Sure!"
Ton 618
@pipebombman1886 😂
I cant get over the fact that stephenson 2-18 is this bigger than sagittarius the blackhole that keeps our galaxy together
Imagine if TON 618 and Phoenix A Collide the Best explosion or they merge to form bigger Eater
Ton 618: I'm the largest black hole in the universe!
Phoenix A: Σ
CAMERAMAN NEVER DIES🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Fun fact Sagittarius a is
the supermassive black hole that holds our galaxy together it’s at the center of the Milky Way
As cool as that'd be, galaxies are actually held together by dark matter. Saggitarius A is _massive_ but its gravity is not nearly as strong enough to make the entire Milky Way orbit around it.
How long do they usually last..????
well black holes lose mass very gradually through hawking radiation, the bigger the black hole the slower, so for Ton 618 it will evaporate fully in around 1X10^99 years, or 1 followed by 99 zeros. for context, that number is way, way, way more than the number of atoms in the universe (it looks like this 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 years)
@@alexshepherd1649 Are those Earth Years or Blackhole Time dilation Years?….. cuz if they are Earth Years we could orbit the Blackhole and skip A LOT of them. I know it wouldn’t be enough but i genuinely think we could use Black holes to travel to the future in a few hours.
@Powerhouse Also, time travel isn’t possible without breaking particles which would mess with gravity in ITSELF ENTIRELY. We would most likely break gravity meaning planets and moons of orbit get off track at a surplus ~+1.34/ms; therefore, breaking our galaxy
@@CelticsJrue It is possible if you Orbit a Blackhole, you would Travel at a different time frame from the rest of the world. You cant go back but you can definitely travel/orbit forward to the future.
@@powerhouse884 thats earth years, also yeah if you got pretty close to one and managed to not be sucked in u could probably time travel lol
THEY FOUND ONE EVEN BIGGER OMG
No there is no proof that phoenix a is larger.
Extraordinário ⭐👀
Realmente
Anxiety attack just looking at this
How is pheonix A not a hypermassive blackhole???
You needed to have 100 billion solar masses or more to be hypermassive
@@kaekkokirrin6140 it is 100 billion-
@@Univertisy oh wai- *me being an idiot and realize he was talking about phoenix A instead of ton 618*
Fun fact: despite how big phoenix A is it’s actually still growing! So this may be even bigger than small - medium sized galaxies in the near future!
I searched it up somewhere that Phoenix A is 20 billion solar masses, but another time I searched it up, it said it was 100 billion solar masses.
100 is true
They only discovered how massive Phoenix A* was because it tore apart a star at a distance from the galactic center that would be impossible for any known BH, even for Ton 618. They knew of Phoenix A* existence for decades, but it's updated mass calculation was purely by chance, as it's not feeding enough to give away its true scale. This of course means there are likely even more massive BH's that we already know about, they just haven't given their true proportions away yet.
Phoenix A is actually considered an ultramassive black hole, not supermassive
ultra or super which is better?
@@radixstardm8172 ultra is bigger
@@radixstardm8172doesn't really matter at this point. Lmao.
Ton 618 is also ultra massive black hole but phoenix a is only theorized to be larger not confirmed
@@mikecoffin9236 the main reason why it matters is because when the scale is very different it usually means the process that formed these celestial objects was very different as well
Imagine if those two black holes merged
Super massive Phoenix a18
@@nemesmarci8 Phoenixson A2-18
Pheton A6
This just proves how insignificant I am in this world. To think that these are the currently known black holes... And that the possibility of an object bigger than these is just out there waiting to be found 🤯
yet you're smarter than them
I love your video so much
props to the camera man
Damn I guess we're just nothing compared to these
Don't worry I'm a cameraman so I got yall
"Mom said it's my turn to show up."
space is unbelievable and frightening???
I don’t think so.
There are other things far more extraordinary and Beyond imagination.
at this scale we're so insignificant , yet some people think they are more interesting than everyone else (to put it in nice words)
I love your videos
“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”
Clickbait thumbnail. Reported as such.
maybe expansion of space has to do with even larger black holes on the edge of the universe, pulling and stretching space-time causing it to expand
Geometry Dash 💀
What?? Can we really be this small in this big of a universe? Most likely, yes
Thank god its 89b light year from us
Almost the length of observable universe
Phoenix A must be old-oldest black hole in the Universe, imagine if it merges with ton 618? gonna be 1 tr+ kms in deameter... no words
gd reference Ton 618
durante la decada de 1920 toyota era una planta textilera ahora no son solo uno de los mas importantes fabricantes de autos del mundo si no tambien una de las principales compañias del mundo el toyota corolla es el auto mas vendido del planeta si los formaras en fila daria la vuelta al mundo 4 veses y ablando de dar vueltas el equipo toyota compite con cambrige en el circuito nascars a la fecha en las 8 temporadas que an corrido y si conzco a toyota cada vez van por mas
Wasnt Ton 618 biggest blackhole?
until the discovery of the Phoenix A
It used to be until Phoenix A was discovered in June.
I still like Ton 618 more though
Ton 618 is better
There is no proof of phoenix a's size yet no measurements were made to prove it is 100 billion solar masses
NO WAY TON 618 IS 1 MIN GAMEPLAY HOW FAST IS GD ICON ITS GOING ON THE SPEED OF LIGHT
If Sagitarius A started the unstoppeble process with eating the stephenson 2, what exactly would happen?
He will take all the elements of Stephenson 2-18...
Nothing would change since even the heaviest star would be insignificant next to a proper black hole like Sagitarius , when you have a mass of a few million sun then adding
So am i right? The blackhole is only the black energy from exploded star, if this sun was smaller was neutron star, if was bigger the happen the black hole, but the factor of diameter is? Or die in black hole (dead energy or neutron star)
@@ornsteinevillord9194 English please
@@ornsteinevillord9194 If I understand correctly you mean what happens after a star dies , only the mass matters not the diameter, if a star is a few times heavier than the Sun then it will become a neutron star, if it is more than about 10 times heavier than the Sun then it becomes a small blackhole (small compared to the blackholes in the center of a galaxy) , if the mass is smaller than that of the Sun or similar it will become a white dwarf I believe which is a very small and rather dark star which is left over after the star blows off most of it's matter after it becomes a red giant for a 'short' period of time, but I might be wrong since I am no scientist, I just like to read and hope to understand these things lmao
I would expertthat we're gonna find one 10 times bigger at least if not 100 times bigger !!
✨
Goodbye ton 618 😢
And then ALLAH is the real AKBAR 🔥
FACTS
The Triangulum CBH one might look small and is small compared to other black holes but if you do the math, which is like this:
The sun is estimated to be 3km if you squeezed it to a black hole, and the black hole shown there is 18.000 km wide, 18.000÷3=6.000 so the before the Star that created the black hole died, i had the mass of 6.000 suns
WTF WAS that black hole is it a new found black hole???
YES
There is no proof of it's size yet
@@ishitatiwari6056 No one here said anything about the size.. he just asked if it's a newly discovered one
@@Venox_MK8 But you know yt is filled with kids who have kept TH-cam shorts as their biggest source of facts? One fake and outdated short from astrokobi sparked this news
Imagine those two behemoths colliding 😅
Glory be to God, the Great Creator allah
Lol brainwashed I see
How far could a phoenix A could hold on any object in space through its gravity
I am scary to travel even if I got a UFO ... because of large blackholes
A lot
Maybe like whole calaxies and from thousands of lightyears
imagine a black hole coming towards our solar system 😢
2 more weeks
There is black hole in our galaxy
We’d be toast sadly
Then we're on the way to become some quarks
fun fact: our solar system is already going towards Sagittarius A*(black hole) which is at the center of the milky way galaxy
This is making my sphincter tighten..
imagine a black hole thats over 1 000 000 000 000 000km exists
WHAT THE FCK IS A KILOMETER 🦅🦅🔫
TON 618's size is 40 times the distance between the Sun and Neptune. Forty Solar Systems!! That's truly prodigious.
And it is 10 billion lightyears away.
The milky way is 100.000 lightyears in diameter.
100.000 milky ways away! Suddenly, it becomes a lot less terrifying...
We look up at ton 168 and wonder how is it possible to be that massive. Ton 618 looks down at planet earth and wonders how is it possible to be that small its all a matter of perspective
Hey bro the forgot about mighty juice it’s actually a real hyper god giant
If as a black hole they are this big how massive the original structure would be 🤯🤯
Both ton 618 and phonix A was made by their fathers the quasi stars
...which are only a hypothesis
Does anyone else get scared when suddenly seeing their sizes?
Yes. I get scared, overwhelmed, I feel both insignificant and blessed. I also feel like our lives, compared to the distances between objects in the universe, passes by excruciatingly fast. I also find it beautiful to wonder how it all started and the beauty of God and it's not like I'm a hardcore Christian, but I also like to think that someone, something created everything and if it's not been created, if it's always been infinite, then God is infinite and even greater than I can imagine. So yeah I get different feelings and thoughts thinking about the universe and it's size and human life... The importance I might give to my problems compared to these massive objects. I love it to be honest and I always find myself thinking about God.
@@hassegawamktplease try researching non-duality then, you seem to be the kind of person that would love discovering it.
You talk the way only a small amount of people would, I don’t believe in an old soul or young soul kind of things, but you seem like an old soul to me, that simply wants to know the truth in this life
@@M00ONTAGE that's sweet. I'm a musician and Im in psycho analysis haha I am extremely curious by nature it might help.. will definitely do thanks ❤️ and definitely yes I'm always searching for the truth definitely
@@hassegawamkt we share the same interests I see
Music making, psychology, truth
@@M00ONTAGE that's cool do you play any instruments? Im Raf from Brazil, you?
The music vibes gave hints that Jenova is near O.O Oh save me, Cloud!
black hole - lubang hitam Ton 618 & Phoenix A bisa di katakan kalau lubang hitam dulunya adalah sebuah bintang cahaya sangat besar atau bintanvmaha agung yang pernah tercipta oleh kekuasaan sang maha-pencipta dia itu tuhan sendiri 🤩
It takes about 71 days to get around at light speed..😬
You also gotta keep in mind that even though these things are huge, blackholes are smaller compared to the stars they were, even if they had the same mass.
wait a minute this does not make sense if we compare the mass of both supermassive black hole ton 618 and phoenix A it is estimated that Ton 618 has 60 billion solar masses while phoenix A is 20 billion solar masses that means that Ton 618 It still holds the title of the largest black hole discovered 🤔
Yooo, this is my big bro! :D
After watching this imagine the size of space 🌌🚀😱😱😱
Compared to phoenix A, the earth is as big as a grain of salt and a human is as big as an atom.
Actually, it's our Sun that is as big as a grain of salt, and our Earth is way smaller than that...
Wayy more smaller than that
When i read the size for Phenix A* i said out loud "THAT IS A BIG BOI"
Remember that all of these lie in the Observable Universe. Anything beyond that point, we cannot see. So there might be even larger ones and we just can’t see them.
Yet, all contained in an observable universe. And the observable universe, speculated to be in a void, or plane with other universes.
It seems size and space is indescribable, and existence is of no edge, measure, or tangent.
Our galaxy magnetar n andro galay magnetar.
Thats it
Cool i understand.
*so why does google say TON 618 is the biggest then?*
Cuz it is still a theory that this black hole is that big lol there is no proof
Pheonix: "Ton... I am your father"
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We are literally just a speck of half a dust 😭 we are so insignificant 💀
Thats not even Supermassive black hole anymore, thats Hypermassive black hole