Behringer Tube Monster VT999 Modding
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- A quick overview and demo of the Behringer Tube Monster VT999 Vacuum Tube Overdrive.
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Wow. What a sound. Great little riff too.
I bought one of these years ago to convert my Marshall MG250DFX to a tube hybrid amp. I think this is a great use for this pedal, to add it to a cheap solid state amp and get a good tube distortion. I have a Bugera 333XL Infinium tube head that I replaced all of the tubes with JJ brand and so I have a box with the original tubes with A, B, and C variants. I settled on the 12AX7B in the end. I might buy a TungSol or another JJ for it later on. This is a clone of a Ibanez TK999 Tube King.
A mod that switches between 2 or 3 tube types would be awesome!
This is a GREAT pedal! A better valve makes it even better!
I have one as well. The tube it came with was okay it had decent clipping but sounded dark/lo-fi. I tried a new production Mullard CV4004 (12AX7) and it had buttery smooth distortion and a nice warm tone but it wasnt loud enough. I tried a Sovtek 12AX7LPS (LP=long plate) nice full balanced sound, crisp but also with plenty of bottom end, really loud but had too much headroom/late breakup. My GE 12AX7 was the second best with a bass and treble boost almost a hi-fi sound but with aggressive, raspy distortion when pushed. Great for eighties thrash metal. I eventually settled on my RCA 12AU7. All the best qualities previously mentioned but with early breakup. LOUD. Fantastic, rich overdrive with a lot of overtones.
The Sovtek12A7LPS are made for 5150/6505 amps. Cuts way down on the Hiss while giving more gain. I about to try using this V999 Tube monster as the pre amp for my 5150 w/a JJ ECC82 in it for a cleaner clean break up.
So, do you think the Sovtek tube would be good for getting warmth and tube dynamics without too much breakup? That would be my ideal. Something to "tubify" my sound when I have to play on non-tube amps.
Just got one of these and swapped in a Sovtek 12ax7LPS - really great improvement over the stock tube (awful!) beautiful creamy breakup, full low and top end, with great volume - I don't find too much gain at about 1-2 is still clean with breakup for me and a vintage strat.
LOW gain valve often does a better job!
I used a GE 12AU7 with great results.
You might try stacking, with a Boss OD or a TC Electronics Cinders in front of the VT999 as well.
I replaced the stock tube to for a sylvania 6189w jan (12AU7). Sounds great now with much more headroom at gain levels now.
It certainly is a very good pedal but stack something like an EP boost or a SD pickup booster and it sends this pedal into greatness!
i was thinking the same about all that space.... right on !
Nice video mate
ECC81,82,83 have different gain and power output,so the sounds will be different,there are other 12???TUBES 12bh7 I think has two different value gain stages,as opposed to the supposed Av100 for the 12AX7,12AY7 was used in the Bassman preamp,lower gain just breaks up later as the input sig voltage rises,the 12AY7 might provide a nice smooth transition into break up.
I have the Blackstar distx and tube monster as well...I prefer the tube monster..I hit the front of it with a tube screamer. . The tone controls are much better on the tube monster .much more high end..I am used to the sizzle I get from my Marshall and this thing nails it.
I was using both the blackstar ht dual and the behringer for a while. I found the behringer a really great pedal, open and great tone options thanks to the flexible eq. I used it to boost and boosted it. In the end I had to trim my pedals and opted to get rid of the behringer and not the blackstar. I guess I wanted to keep the high gain ability.
Hi man, great video! Thanks for making this video.I have a question or two for you which you may be able to help with, or may be not? Anyways, how distorted can this go? Is all the distortion usable or does it turn to pumpey compress mush? You mention you use other pedals to drive it, well can you achieve a good stacked pedal sound with say another over drive or tube screamer style pedal in front of this? To try give you an idea of why I am asking, I need a rig for taking on planes, and I normally use rack stuff, so I need something that can get close to my ADA MP1 boosted with a OD/Tube screamer pedal in front and I'm hoping this can do that. Already tried a Radial Tonebone Hot British which was excellent marshal in a pedal, but after 2 o clock in the drive it turned to mush and got all pumpey an weird feeling with that amount of distortion. Also would not take a boost at all!! Hope you can may be help with the questions, if not thanks anyways man.
So I made this video long ago and in the time that passed I have gotten a Blackstar HT Dual... a MUCH better tube drive pedal and it takes pedals extremely well. Have a check at it, amazing distortion. It also has a amp/cab simulation out (as they go not bad but I never feel they are awesome or actually usable other that home practice... cab sims on pedals that is).
As for the VT999... it can be tweaked to sound amazing and has lots of overdrive (close to distorion) and takes some pedals well. For the price I would try it but also try a few different tubes as is suggested in some of the comments. I like it a lot for crunch on its own and driving it with a boost pedal it can sound very nice.
It is not a pre-amp though in my oppinion. I have it in front of a pre-amp pedal and that works well. I guess it would help if I knew what kind of music you play.
One drawback in my oppinion is that it uses it's own 9v power supply.. and in some situations it adds noise .
Hi thanks for that, I actually have been looking at the HT range also particularly the dual and the DistX. I play what I would describe as heavy metal. Some people might describe it as old school or traditional style metal. But hopefully you get the idea. I have heard the HT dual needs a bit of a boost for heavy metal, and that is fine, but since I need as little gear with me on a plane, one less pedal may be best route to go so the DistX is next in line. I have also been looking at the Ibanez TK999HT.
Very nice! Just got mine...what is the fuzz you are using?
Michael Bartholomew Aural Dream Purely Fuzz. Very cheap chinese pedal which is more warm distorion imo than fuzz. I love the pedal.
Tips:
Replace the Bugera tube that comes with it with just about any other 12ax7 and it’s going to sound better.
Replace the wimpy power supply with a 1A power supply and it makes a huge difference.
I can replace even with a el34?
What's the plate voltage on the valve?
Hello! I saw your vid a while ago, got the VT999 and threw an RCA7571-tube in it, works good, sounds pretty cool!! Now, trying to get a stoner/Doom-pedalboard.. I got the Behringer SF-300 fuzz, which I am going to drive before the VT999. IF this sounds cool, I think I might take the SF-300 components and stuff them inside the better VT999 enclosure, making a fuzz/tube OD-pedal in one enclosure. Am I right thinking that I only need to place the fuzz in series at the input jack, and pull the power, in series, from the power jack?? then ofcourse see how I can fit the controls on the top.
Great idea. As for thr tech question I am not the right person to ask although the logic seems sound.
I've had one of these for a few years and for the money it does make some nice sounds. My only sort of niggle with it is the tube never warms up properly compared to a running valve amp. I've not checked the temperature which I should do I guess, it works fine but i did wonder whether the tube was a bit superfluous and the main driving circuit was solid state? I can easily touch the tube when it's running and definitely would not do that with my valve amps! Just a thought.
This article might shed some light
www.veri-tone.com/the-case-for-starved-plate-designs/
@@KrachWerke Thank you, very interesting. I was going to build a crystal radio that utilized a valve running on very low volts (excuse my ignorance, I'm a dabbler in life!) and I believe had no heater voltage nor high plate voltage, so I guess there are many ways to skin a cat! I was impressed with the Tube Monster I must admit and like all of Behringer offerings such incredibly good value that lets younger people (or strapped for cash people) get into the wonders of tremolo and delay etc. Being a brand snob is so boring, if I like a guitar or amp I don't care about the logo. I'm into Gretsch guitars but I have a £65 Gear4music parlor guitar wired up with a Chinese knock off Fishman and use it for slide, sounds great!! Thank you again for the info.
what amp were you using? sounds great with the monster!!!!!
An old Peavey Bandit 112. Pre transtube sticker although I think they already had the transtube circuitry in them
That fuzz! What fuzz pedal did you put in front of the Tube Monster? Is that before or after the Tube M? Thx
Aaron Cornish Aural Dream Purely Fuzz and it is on front of the Behringer
Great demo man...cheers..Wuts with the stock power supply...can u use a 12v to get more outta of the tube..thanks. or should i stick with the regular..don't wanna f $#@ things up
I am honestly not qualified to comment. I am sorry I don't know.
BE careful. VT999 only works properly with the supplied PS! (It's rectified to the circuit!) Using a 3rd party PS will result in incorrect performance and lots of NOISE!
One question, in what order should i put the vt999 on my guitar chain signal
Near the start of the pedalboard. Pretty much where you would put any drive or distortion pedal.
Hello, thank you for the review, excellent! I bought one of these "monsters" and changed the original tube with a electro-harmonix 12AX7. It simply didn't work, it produced a nasty harsh uncontinuous noise. I tried again with another valve and it also didn't work. It seems to function only with the one that comes with the product. May be you know any trick or something that I'm not doing well. Thank you!!!!
I have no idea, I swapped mine for a EH12AX7 and had no issues. I did a quick google search and can't find anyone with the same problem. All valves are pretty much the same I think. I guess I can only suggest making doubly sure they are inserted properly, maybe check pin lengths etc.
Maybe also post a video of you replacing and also the noise you get?
@@KrachWerke Thank You Krach! I'll try to make a video, probably something with the pin length or the way I replace it.
Are you using the stock power supply? The power supply that is included with the pedal is only 300 mA, which seems like a low amount of amperes for tubes. I replaced the power supply with a 1A power supply (that is normally used to power several guitar pedals in a a daisy-chain) and my replacement 12AX7 tube sounds much better than with the original power adapter (probably because the tube isn't being power-starved).
What were the tubes you suggested again?
ecc82 and ecc83s both by JJ Electronics
Hello, first of all thanks for the recommendation, i buy the pedal and the tube, yesterday i made the modification.
Just one question i have a rat and a big muff pedal but when i use the muff with this pedal sounds muddy. Any recommendation to fix this? Or just fix the bass in the vintage tube? Hope you can help me. Really nice pedal by the way, just not friendly right now with muff
Is the muff and rat first in the chain or after the behringer?
i Put first the rat, then the muff and then the behringer @@KrachWerke
@@pakogtl1104 I have the same problem to be honest. I have not solved it. But I also have the same problem with the Blackstar ht duo which is the same type valve pedal as the behringer just more expensive.
@@KrachWerke Thanks a lot, if i have the answer i will let you know. Thanks for your answer and keep rocking
I put first the overdrive an then the Distortion and finally de Fuzz and sound great. May be thats works for you
What pedals did u have there?
There was an aural dream fuzz pedal in front of the tube monster.
How hard do you think it would be to add a second or even a 3rd tube to this? There is certainly room enough inside.
I am certainly not qualified to answer that properly. I can only guess it would require more power and some rework. But there is definitely space.
Difficult because you’d have to redesign the PCB. If it were a THT or those eyelet boards from vintage amps, it would be a lot easier.
You'd need to consider the extra current draw from 2 tubes, for the price though you could just buy another VT999...
It would be Great to add a 2nd Tube, and be able to CASCADE, into IT. Dial IN the BLENDED AMOUNT...?
Agreed. I wish some gurus would start messing with this pedal. There is definitely space for more tubes in the enclosure.
what if i put 2 or 3 tubes in..... i was thinking like you!
Is possibile to xhange with a el34?
Probably not, el34 is a power tube, this unit only takes pre-amp tubes
try a 5751 tube fantastic harmonicks
Paul Cartwright will do. Love playing with the different tubes
5751 sovtek is the way to go, fantastic Vox AC sound..
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Why the box is so big?
I think it was made this big for esthetic, to make it look and feel retro. The parts inside definitely don't need all that space.
put the tungsol 12ax7 and youll get very nice tones from it
ziggy8757 I have one of these and my favorite so far is RCA 12AU7. It really performs nicely in starved plate mode.
Tung sol tube it too harsh imo!
I want to know what would happen if i change out the bias cap, that is located on the valve Pcb.. a bit darker overdrive is what I'm looking for.
I see enough space to add a digital amplifier board to make a standalone amplifier.
Parts express
Can probs stick a class ab solidstate in there
But youd be better off running a standard 120v plug in there
@@fernank017 Yes...!! Well I though about getting a EH 44 magnum power-amp but yeah you could use a solid state amp...! Nice idea
However, keep in mind the thing is in a full-on metal enclosure, and there is space because well... I bet it gets hot quickly. But one could remove the back, put it into a mini enclosure and run their cabinet from it. I will try :D
How is she today?
I sold it ages ago and still regret it. Thinking of getting another one
schnitzel demo at 1:12
LOL! Yum!
Anyone here who tried to run the pedal with 12v instead of 9v? Heard it should positivly influence the sound....
I read somewhere 300mA vs 500mA and depending on the tube. I believe this was in reference to a 12AU7 needing more juice. Wish I had better info as I will most likely need to know this..
Bugera is not a tube manufacturer! This tube looks like cheap Sovtek 12AX7.
Even worse, unbranded RUBY!
It's a cheap and RUBY. Total poop!!
This is just a tube replacing "tutorial". No mod
It's a tube not a valve.
lol... In Euope, a Tube is called a Valve.. it means the same thing. Vacuum tubes or electron tubes in the US, and thermionic valves in Britain........
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