Nobody better to share “new lathe day” with than Gordy!! I took his precision rifle class one-on-one back in April. Really glad you could have him on for more content!!
Gavin, Love your new lathe and love Gordy! I just took his one-on-one precision rifle class just a few weeks ago and absolutely loved it!!! He is a great instructor and awesome guy for sure! Love your videos and keep them coming, especially all the ones that have to do with precision bolt rifles! 👍
And I thought your last lathe was amazing. This one looks like it can do anything, and I'm looking forward to the content. Of course, both your old lathe and this new one are better than what I had in school, so excited to see what better toys can produce!
Ok seriously, the 1440 vid dropped only like, i dunno, 25 minutes ago it seems like? And now this!?!?! Gavin, bruh, you're just showing off now. That lathe is amazing!!!!
Just FYI, you can thread backwards (away from the chuck) Turn your tool upside down and reverse the machine, no need to hover over your half nut that way, and if you get too much load it pushes the tool out instead of breaking and ruining your part. You can also set a stop on your Z axis way to have a quick spot to come back too. The only caution is if you use a thread chuck it could in theory be dangerous
Love your videos. But have to say as a weekend indoor shooter some aspects of your videos go right over my head, but god I love to see your passion for your trade. Especially when it comes to machining. Keep up the awesome content.
Yeah thats freaken sweet rig. Would love to know more on that AR accurizing and how to attend the online course. Specifically how you got that 6 ARC to shoot lol. Wonder if Gordy found an issue with the chamber freebore or chamber in general. I had to get a custom reamer made to produce sub MOA groups
Nice lathe, I had the same problem with the SSG chuck. It's a 65 pound piece of rotating mass that can easily get out of balance. I usually slow it down one notch and it works pretty well. Back in college I was a mechanic and had to mount and balance tires. Every now and then we'd get one so far out of balance that we'd break the bead and turn it 180 degrees, it balanced up just fine that way. I would suggest that you get the chuck all lined and centered up using an indicator rod before chucking the barrel, then if it gets out of balance, then rotate the barrel around 180 degrees. It has worked for me pretty well for me. let me know if you're willing to sell the old lathe, I might be interested.
Howdy. I am wondering what you are doing with the lathe you replaced? I am looking for a used lathe and am sure you take nice care of your machines. Let’s make a deal. 😀
Did you say rotary phase converter? Ditch that inefficient shit and get a good VFD instead, then as a bonus you can make small tweaks to your speed so you can accomplish more speeds than just what the gearbox gives you. Also what is the shortest barrel that can still reach the spider in that thing? The headstock looks very long...
I can't even wrap my head around the capabilities of this machine. Im just planning my first lathe purchase of a bench top little machine shop lathe to go with my mill. But they're not even in the same galaxy let alone ball park
@@jeremyhere2002 I have the money but not the space. No garage on my property just a reaallllly nice shed. Already gonna be taking up a lot of room as it is
First you got a 14-40 lathe. Good move. Next Brad got a 16-40. Also a good move. Now you're outgrown the 14-40 and added a 16-60. Great move. Enjoy, and keep us informed of your new toy.
You Must be doing well i got the PM 1440 LB it's ok wish i would have been able to get the PM 1440 HD ( older machine )and wish my budget would have been for the PM 1440GT but the 1640 or 1660 LT looks to be a supper machine all i have to say You dog have fun . JM
That's an Aloris CXA-8: www.aloris.com/threading-holder-cxa-8 - what's cool about this one is that it's made to flip upside down if you want to thread away from the shoulder...
Hello Gavin, great lathe, now all you have to do is switch from inches to MM and it will be real precision. One µm is 2.54 times more accurate than 1/10000 of an inch. Greetings from 🇸🇳
I like metric and I think its better but when you get used to one system its what you're going to use plus the threads are going to be imperial anyway.
The level of accuracy in inherent in the machine, its bearings, threads and ways. The unit of measure graduated on the dials is irrelevant to the accuracy of the final product. Many modern lathes are graduated in both systems.
How did my TL1660 end up at your place? Weird... oh well, im not mad I'll just be waiting for the reshipment of it back over here. I wish! Lol, that's a monster machine, I'd love the 1640 variant one day.
Gavin, What could you not do on your 14 inch lathe? My dream is a 14 x 40 lathe. It looks like you got more threads in the gearbox of the 16 inch lathe. Just curious.
It's a lot of mass hanging off the smaller spindle nose. The regular 14x40 use a D1-5 and the 16x60 uses a D1-6 camlock. I have ran small 14x40 lathes that had D1-4 so the older lathe he had was still pretty impressive.
@@Ultimatereloader When you use good cutting tools/inserts machine rigidity is less important.......after all.....the TBAS is used for rifle building......so you are taking decently small cutting depths at manual lathe RPMs. Now if you are taking .250" passes on a 4" cold rolled steel bar.......that's another world altogether. Big lathes for rifle work just get in the way......everything is larger and more expensive.......power requirements are more involved.......etc. I have two Sharp 1340vs lathes and love them for rifle work and small job shop tasks, I've even made a taper attachment and contoured barrels from straight blanks. I will never go back to a gear lathe again.......the VFD is great for single phase power and the ability to negate chatter/vibration on the fly by a little twist of the RPM knob. For surface finish when facing large diameters......there is nothing better than turning up the RPM as the tool feeds toward center.......you wanna talk surface finish.......WOW........CNC like quality. "They run better on heavier lathes".......maybe the heavier lathe absorbs the operators deficiencies...... Just my $.02
$17,999 + $1,299 flat rate shipping to the lower 48. Don’t forget to factor in the 3-phase if you don’t already have it. Definitely a tool that needs to pay for itself.
Trouble is, Taiwan is one of the last few places you can still get a quality manual lathe. I love the old American iron. But old commercial machines usually have significant wear and accuracy is a challenge. Sunmaster, who makes the PM lathes to Matt's specs, puts together an amazing machine.
@@mtnbiker4480 Agreed. I run Sharp......also Taiwan and no problems at all......been running them 50-60hrs a week for 6 yrs so far. At this point I would have no problem replacing them at the 10yr mark......if needed......but I highly doubt I will need to.
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Nobody better to share “new lathe day” with than Gordy!! I took his precision rifle class one-on-one back in April. Really glad you could have him on for more content!!
Nice to see you and Gordy reviewing the lathe. That thing is a beast!
You guys sure know how to have a good time! May you enjoy that lathe for decades to come.
Yeah, I’m jealous... super cool tool, can’t wait to see what can be done with it.
Thanks Gavin & Gordy.
Thank you, yes, lots of adventures coming!
Gavin,
Love your new lathe and love Gordy! I just took his one-on-one precision rifle class just a few weeks ago and absolutely loved it!!! He is a great instructor and awesome guy for sure! Love your videos and keep them coming, especially all the ones that have to do with precision bolt rifles! 👍
Congrats on being able to take his class, what an experience! It's a privilege to be connected with Gordy and to work with him on projects!!!
And I thought your last lathe was amazing. This one looks like it can do anything, and I'm looking forward to the content.
Of course, both your old lathe and this new one are better than what I had in school, so excited to see what better toys can produce!
Gavin, get Cratex abrasive-stick for softening your threads after they are cut. Deburrs them nicely. 👍
I second that statement. Real machinist keep a stick in their toolbox.
A stick or a flat bar? I want to get one but I have no idea.
@@DimaProk DiMA, grab a stick👍
@@DimaProk I prefer the rectangular shape.
Man that is nice! Very keen to see what demons you slay with it. Good stuff!
Ok seriously, the 1440 vid dropped only like, i dunno, 25 minutes ago it seems like? And now this!?!?! Gavin, bruh, you're just showing off now. That lathe is amazing!!!!
Awesome lathe. Bet you are loving that universal gearbox! I think the TLs are Matt's best products.
Looking forward to see some good use of the beauty!
Just FYI, you can thread backwards (away from the chuck) Turn your tool upside down and reverse the machine, no need to hover over your half nut that way, and if you get too much load it pushes the tool out instead of breaking and ruining your part.
You can also set a stop on your Z axis way to have a quick spot to come back too. The only caution is if you use a thread chuck it could in theory be dangerous
Congrats on a nice piece of equipment!
Thank you, I'm in lathe heaven :)
These lathe-Gavin-Gordy videos are gonna cost me some money.😄😄 hoping to take some Gordy Gritters classes also $😁$😁$😁 I could binge watch this stuff
Where can i get that AR accurizing class?!?!
I have the newer version of this, TC 1640, but i ordered it from Sunmaster so i could get it optioned to 2,500 rpm with CSS. Brilliant machine
Looking forward to the full lathe overview video on the 1660! Bitchen lathe!
Love your videos. But have to say as a weekend indoor shooter some aspects of your videos go right over my head, but god I love to see your passion for your trade. Especially when it comes to machining. Keep up the awesome content.
As a truck driver I can translate “Had I known what this road was like, I would have charged more to deliver”.
Looking forward to your future projects with the dream machine!
Very nice machine! Congrats!
Awesome Brother ... now can you make me a Barrel for my 6.5x55 Swede 😉🤣
Yeah thats freaken sweet rig. Would love to know more on that AR accurizing and how to attend the online course. Specifically how you got that 6 ARC to shoot lol. Wonder if Gordy found an issue with the chamber freebore or chamber in general. I had to get a custom reamer made to produce sub MOA groups
Out of curiosity I looked up the cost of the lathe and was a bit surprised..it’s price seems very reasonable.
How's it holding up? Do you still like it? Any complaints?
Its on the wish list
Did you ever do a tour of this machine? I can't find the video if so
Nice lathe, I had the same problem with the SSG chuck. It's a 65 pound piece of rotating mass that can easily get out of balance. I usually slow it down one notch and it works pretty well. Back in college I was a mechanic and had to mount and balance tires. Every now and then we'd get one so far out of balance that we'd break the bead and turn it 180 degrees, it balanced up just fine that way. I would suggest that you get the chuck all lined and centered up using an indicator rod before chucking the barrel, then if it gets out of balance, then rotate the barrel around 180 degrees. It has worked for me pretty well for me. let me know if you're willing to sell the old lathe, I might be interested.
Great lathe 👍
Congrats
When you mounted to floor , did you use dial indicator as you bolted it down??
That looks really nice!
How much did you pay Gordy to get there?
Could you do some videos on the 6.8 Western. I'm hoping to get one this week and I think it could be a fantastic load building rifle
I got a Winchester Mod 70 Featherweight in 6.8 Western on layaway for a reasonable price on gunbroker. Love it.
Howdy. I am wondering what you are doing with the lathe you replaced? I am looking for a used lathe and am sure you take nice care of your machines. Let’s make a deal. 😀
how much did it cost?? (delivered) what was the freight charge to your remote area.
Envious! But proud for you.
Did you say rotary phase converter? Ditch that inefficient shit and get a good VFD instead, then as a bonus you can make small tweaks to your speed so you can accomplish more speeds than just what the gearbox gives you. Also what is the shortest barrel that can still reach the spider in that thing? The headstock looks very long...
Great machine. That brand of machine sir have outlet or supplier in Philippines? I want the PM1440gt. How to purchase and send to Philippines? Thanks
I can't even wrap my head around the capabilities of this machine. Im just planning my first lathe purchase of a bench top little machine shop lathe to go with my mill. But they're not even in the same galaxy let alone ball park
If you can afford it and accommodate it. Go bigger. I bought a 1236 and really regret not getting a 1440. Specifically the HD 1440 they had.
@@jeremyhere2002 I have the money but not the space. No garage on my property just a reaallllly nice shed. Already gonna be taking up a lot of room as it is
First you got a 14-40 lathe. Good move.
Next Brad got a 16-40. Also a good move.
Now you're outgrown the 14-40 and added a 16-60. Great move.
Enjoy, and keep us informed of your new toy.
You Must be doing well i got the PM 1440 LB it's ok wish i would have been able to get the PM 1440 HD
( older machine )and wish my budget would have been for the PM 1440GT but the 1640 or 1660 LT looks to be a supper machine all i have to say You dog have fun . JM
I just got the same machine. Is there any reason to put a CX toolpost on instead of a CXA aloris?
Beautiful lathe. Wish I had the money to upgrade my little Atlas.
How can I find more information on the classes?
I'm a tool hoarder. I need this.
I. Never seen a chuck that size, f CD very 👍 nice🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Awesome machine! What is that vertical cutter doing the threads?
That's an Aloris CXA-8: www.aloris.com/threading-holder-cxa-8 - what's cool about this one is that it's made to flip upside down if you want to thread away from the shoulder...
I don’t see your video where you talk more in depth about this lathe and the chuck.
What thread cutting bit are you using, never seen one like it?
That is an Aloris #8. You probably haven't seen this one because the Chinese haven't copied it.
Any chance you can share any details on the pay-to-stream content you mentioned?
Sweet!
Love at first sight!
Exciting, wanting to see some gun smithing.
With all these machine, do u offer Smithing work?
Hello Gavin,
great lathe, now all you have to do is switch from inches to MM and it will be real precision. One µm is 2.54 times more accurate than 1/10000 of an inch.
Greetings from 🇸🇳
One button on the DRO and voila...metric.
I like metric and I think its better but when you get used to one system its what you're going to use plus the threads are going to be imperial anyway.
The level of accuracy in inherent in the machine, its bearings, threads and ways. The unit of measure graduated on the dials is irrelevant to the accuracy of the final product. Many modern lathes are graduated in both systems.
Where did you get that treading tool?! Looks super rigid!!
Very nice congrats!
Thanks!
Nice toy, I'm sure you'll put it to good use. How do you get on the list for the online class you teased us about?
How did my TL1660 end up at your place? Weird... oh well, im not mad I'll just be waiting for the reshipment of it back over here. I wish! Lol, that's a monster machine, I'd love the 1640 variant one day.
Gavin, What could you not do on your 14 inch lathe? My dream is a 14 x 40 lathe. It looks like you got more threads in the gearbox of the 16 inch lathe. Just curious.
Wow! Umm, I know a guy, with a lathe... ;) Maybe he'd thread my barrel if we went varmint shooting or something? :)
You know it Guy! :)
Gavin - Are you saying you would not recommend the TBAS on a 1440 due to stability?
It's a lot of mass hanging off the smaller spindle nose. The regular 14x40 use a D1-5 and the 16x60 uses a D1-6 camlock. I have ran small 14x40 lathes that had D1-4 so the older lathe he had was still pretty impressive.
It works, but it's pickier about RPM for good surface finish. They run better on heavier lathes.
@@Ultimatereloader When you use good cutting tools/inserts machine rigidity is less important.......after all.....the TBAS is used for rifle building......so you are taking decently small cutting depths at manual lathe RPMs. Now if you are taking .250" passes on a 4" cold rolled steel bar.......that's another world altogether.
Big lathes for rifle work just get in the way......everything is larger and more expensive.......power requirements are more involved.......etc.
I have two Sharp 1340vs lathes and love them for rifle work and small job shop tasks, I've even made a taper attachment and contoured barrels from straight blanks. I will never go back to a gear lathe again.......the VFD is great for single phase power and the ability to negate chatter/vibration on the fly by a little twist of the RPM knob. For surface finish when facing large diameters......there is nothing better than turning up the RPM as the tool feeds toward center.......you wanna talk surface finish.......WOW........CNC like quality.
"They run better on heavier lathes".......maybe the heavier lathe absorbs the operators deficiencies......
Just my $.02
@@AccuSol-ERN are you running a TBAS?
@@Ultimatereloader Yep, since 2015.
Where will the video on improving AR accuracy be?
Teachable.com !
Those are nice machines
Gavin Gavin Gavin, HAASE MULTIFIX
Everyone wants to be like Mr Cortina.
You aren’t supporting the muzzle inside the spindle? My instincts tell me this is a bad idea.
are you selling the old one?
I want one of those 🥺
Anyone catch him saying "six chaw juck"? 🤷😁
Sooo,where are these manufactured ?
Taiwan
And next year a Haas TL???😎😎😎
why don't people talk about the price of tools at the beginning of videos? that is the first thing that i want to know!
nice
Why does this lathe shake so bad?
TRUTH Social is coming
i want to study gunsmith
You must have a decent paying job to be able to afford tools like this.
$17,999 + $1,299 flat rate shipping to the lower 48. Don’t forget to factor in the 3-phase if you don’t already have it. Definitely a tool that needs to pay for itself.
I hope you have a good pension plan! lol !
You should have tied it down while you moved it just to be careful..
Feed the alg.
Looks nice I think these are made in Taiwan I have more respect for made in Taiwan then made in China which can be crap.
👍👍👍👍👍👍🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
Gavin please respond to my pm on patroon regarding the content
That's cost $15k
More.
Hey if you need a good place to throw away your old lathe, I’ll send you my address.
Stop with the annoying music!
Sorry I quit at made in taiwan
Taiwan is your friend. Really.
Trouble is, Taiwan is one of the last few places you can still get a quality manual lathe. I love the old American iron. But old commercial machines usually have significant wear and accuracy is a challenge. Sunmaster, who makes the PM lathes to Matt's specs, puts together an amazing machine.
@@mtnbiker4480 Agreed. I run Sharp......also Taiwan and no problems at all......been running them 50-60hrs a week for 6 yrs so far. At this point I would have no problem replacing them at the 10yr mark......if needed......but I highly doubt I will need to.
Sweet!