@@Iosthought😂 It was a blizzard. Do you know anything about Healthcare? Most of the already overworked health professionals were stuck at work all weekend, sleeping on floors, or working 18 hours. They can't even leave if they had 4wd, by law someone has to relieve them. Security ' probably wasn't there, they aren't a Healthcare provider. Lol, hope you had it 'real easy over the weekend, while everything, including gas stations were closed! Hospitals weren't!
@@Iosthought That's right. If they think someone is "suspicious" or committing a crime they call cops right away. Probably saw this lady needed help and security ignored her and let her die in the cold.
I was in an ER about a month ago. Not this one. But the complete disregard for and lack of empathy and compassion was an eye opener. You’re less than just a number to those people.
Contract er docs to deny uninsured or underinsured and divert to outpatient clinics. Coworkers say she had had a stroke 6 months ago and was a nice lady. Er docs are a disaster unless it's clear ins will pay hosp versus out pt care
i have high blood pressure and went to baptist in miami . they doped me up on adavant to the point i was unconcious and left me outside on a bench at 2am...iam someone with a job , insurance, family. imagine what they do to people who dont have these things. hospitals are nasty business
@@sicotshit7068 You're ready to blame the ambulance drivers and not the corporations that run hospitals and make all of the decisions regarding pateint treatments, mmm kay. This is what is wrong with America, we keep giving rich white men the benefit of the doubt. Shame on you!
Where was her son who loved her so much? Why did he allow her to be alone? And the report clearly said they don’t know if she was treated, admitted, or discharged.
The hospital most likely released her out into the blizzard…. Whoever is responsible committed murder in my opinion. Someone has to go to jail over this
ewe can bet theyve already erased altered or hid any video surveillance footage of her even visiting that hospital she's PROBABLY someone that no lawyer will field a wrongful death lawsuit for any remaining kin anyway - I've been tellin people for YEARS now to just NOT GET HURT or GET ILL if YOU'RE NOT A HIGH PROFILE person that the media and or Establishment NEEDS for something because if you're just "a common citizen" there IS a pretty good chance you'll wind up a corpse seeking medical help - it's BEEN that weight for at least three decades ever since doctors and hospitals started getting sued for making mistakes on operating tables doing ctuff like FORGETTING to REMOVE things from peoples interiors when doing procedures and sewing em up and sending em home to get an infection in a month or less and there's been SO MUCH aggression ON HOSPTIAL property sometimes with people actively making death threats against doctors that they fail at suing or whatever sometimes ITS A MESS ok people on the street KNOW this stuff is real and some of the working class knows it too thats why healthcare has been an issue for a while thats not really getting fixed because civilization is taking forever to fix - CIVILIZATION OVERALL is a mess it really is and most people don't think it CAN bee fixed thats why most people just ignore it all and keep heading for the cliff NOT LIKE the lady that bailed out of her car in motion that was some SIK shiyat too - people are crazy and or fed up that's all it is - there's a hospital in MY Area that's been um VERY HOSTILE to the public for a while now too and um yeah a few years ago I SAW THEM with MY OWN EYES one day I ducked in there for like two minutes to use the pisser and refill a water bottle I think it was and while I was there I noticed some lady that was fighting cancer and she was having a FIT because the hospital was REFUSING to treat her and SECURTY THREW HER OUT into the street and yeah dde THIS WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER and SHE WASNT EVEN DRESSED FOR THE WEATHER MAN and I talked to her for a few minutes SHE HAD A LITTLE BITTY SCHNITZEL DOG with er too or some kind of itty bitty TINY dog and SHE COULDNT GO HOME her husband was a lunatic and had took her truck keys and changed the locks in the house she said and I was just like SHOCKED man I was like HOW THE HELL can the world BEE SO CRUEL to people that are getting slammed with trouble - so yeah I DID take an hour to hsutle her across the street to a um WALGREENS pharmacy it was and talked to the store manager for a minute and TOLD HER what was up and that the lady NEEDED TO TAKE SHELTER in the store for maybe 30 minutes while I CALLED some people I KNEW that ran a homeless charity shelter ring operation kind of thing and told THEM and send SEND A CAR to my location RIGHT NOW and get this woman secured IN SHELTER or SHE'S DEAD by dawn we'll figure out what to do about getting her help being treated for cancer LATER for NOW just GET HER SHELTERED and they did one fo the shelter volunteers came and got her in his personal vehicle and took her away - and YEAH DUDE I DID BARK At the security guards before I got her off the property I TOLD em I said man YOU GUYS ARE RABID PSYCHOS WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS ILLEGAL - but honestly IN FAIRNESS to hospital security FOR OTHER REASONS Ive already mentioned working as security at a hospital is a NIGHTMARE working securty ANYWHERE Today is really but especially hospitals
@@ezragonzalez8936if you send someone vulnerable out into the streets during hazardous weather with no regard for whether or not they have a safe way to where they’re going or even a destination, you have failed just as a human being. and people wonder what’s wrong with humanity. it costs a dollar for a bus ticket in most cities and it’s completely free to call 211 for local resources like a warming shelter. i did it MYSELF as an overnight gas station employee in the dead of winter because i couldn’t live with myself otherwise. it’s not hard.
I spent a week with my mom in the hospital a couple years back and if you have a senior in your life please know that someone needs to stay with them for the majority of the time they are there. A coffee or lunch break is about the amount of time they should be alone if they are confused. Hospitals have changed a lot in the past ten years.
Very true, I stay with both of my parents when they stayed at hospitals for long periods of time. The hospital staff moved suspiciously. It was to the point my mother's doctor told me to take her home because the hospital staff including the custodian staff were rude and disrespectful to patients.
my mom ended up in hospital, couldn't swallow for some reason and the first thing they were doing was giving her a flu shot when I told then she already got one at krogers, she kept getting flu shots and they wanted to give her more flu shots, she died shortly afterwards
This ret psychiatrist nurse, and ret psychiatrist totally agree. I tell ppl your loved ones can be in the worse nursing home, but if family visited freq, they will get good care. Former dir of nursing home too
I live in Florida. I'm 69 and in good shape. I have no insurance (by choice) i live alone and slipped in the tub and cracked my head open. I went to the ER ... Got stitches, Xrays and screened for neurological injuries. When they learned I lived alone they insisted I stay overnight ... They moved my car into long term parking and kept me for two nights. Just to make sure. They weren't thrilled with me driving myself home, but, a security gaurd got my car and they requested I give them a call when I got home. I didn't call immediately and they called me. I was also told billing will be in touch and work something out. They asked my age and pointed out I must have Medicare part A. And indeed I did and they told me they'd accept that in total. So ... My point is ... Not all hospitals are created equally.
That's wonderful, but I'm afraid what you've just described is the extreme, rare exception! Even at private hospitals, which are more often WORSE than public/county ones, except for the way they're decorated. I'm happy they did all this for you & hope you're doing well!
Wow, you are so lucky! I went to the ER, and the "doctor" (only a PA) didn't even want to come into the room and see me. He wanted to treat me for a migraine without ever speaking to me. I told the nurse I wasn't taking the drugs without talking to the Dr first. I overheard him tell the nurse if I am in there more than 2 minutes to come get him and say he was needed immediately. I explained my symptoms and told him I have had migraines for 40 years and have never went to the ER for a migraine, I don't think I have a migraine, this feels different, he told me I have a migraine and just take the iv drugs. I felt like I was going to die after taking the drugs, I could barely talk after. He came in all proud, and said how do you feel? I said just awful, you could see the oh shit look on his face, all of a sudden he wanted to LISTEN to me! By the way, I left before he killed me, and went to a nurse practitioner at a clinic a day or two later, she listened to me and we figured it out in 10 minutes. These 30 something, not full doctors with giant egos at hospitals will kill people! BTW, the drugs he gave me made my condition way worse!
Thank God ~ I'm so glad to hear you were treated so well. The local hospitals here in Greenville SC are pretty good too. Don't get me wrong, sometimes you come across someone who is burnt out & kinda crabby, but overall our Family has been treated well. I pray that *EVERYONE* who finds themselves having an emergency or even a doctor visit is treated well & handled with care.🤗💞🙏🏻🕊️❤️🩹
@@trh2-f7vthe reference to the elderly wasn’t specific to this story🙄🤦🏾♀️It’s general advice, and wise words at that. So while I agree 63 isn’t elderly, OP wasn’t stating the deceased woman in this story was elderly
I've seen this before. With my own eyes. In my own Portland Oregon. They rolled a old woman out of the hospital. And left her at night freezing 🥶 cold she fell I went in and got security and they rolled her back in. What the fuck ‼️
Interesting. I’ve seen this twice at Grady hospital in Atlanta,GA. In 2006 a Security guard rolled 2 separate ppl, on 2 seperate occasions, in front of the McDonald’s adjacent to the hospital. I was doing my clinicals at that time. I admit I froze and did nothing. It was obvious those ppl were not stabilized.
Hospitals are not hotels, did she contact anyone to pick her up? These people can't stay on hospital grounds post-discharge. If she's dumb enough to stick around on a freezing night then I don't know what to tell you.
@@trh2-f7v Misty didn't say elderly she said elders. There is a difference. Actually anyone that is older than another is their elder. For example, a 20 year old would be an elder to a 16 year old
Similar happened to my boyfriend when he was admitted into the ER for vomiting related to T1D and kidney disease. They released him just a few hours later after deciding he was faking, still vomiting on the bench outside at 2am bc theyd discharged him. Another time after hed been admitted for DKA, they discharged him before he was able to hold down food or medication, and didnt wait for me to arrive before letting him wander around the hospital parking lot with no shirt, no shoes, no wallet no ID, No glasses, and no cellphone bc it had died before i arrived. Ive never yelled at hospital staff until that moment. I found him in the middle of the lot in summer Arizona completey fatigued and out of it before they could even walk outside to help me find where theyd released him into the wild. Additionally the staff constantly tells him hes lying or faking DESPITE HIS MEDICAL RECORDS CONTAINING DIAGNOSIS FROM THAT SAME HOSPITAL. Whats the point if DXing patients if youre going to tell them theyre lying? They didnt even TELL HIM he was DXd with half the things he has, but when need to be seen about symptoms, hes a liar! AMERICAN HEALTHCARE IS A JOKE AND THEY WANT YOU TO DIE.
the same exact thing has been happening to me for years and I was diagnosed with a kidney tumor. they keep telling me I'm lying as my body wastes away and my lymph nodes are now involved and they still won't even say I have cancer. I used to be a pharmacy tech and I saw this all the time at my job. I've had patients die from neglect. doctors now don't know ANYTHING about their patients. I've been trying to blow the whistle on this for years.
@@kimpeterson8090it's because of private equity. not Obamacare. private equity has taken over everything in this country from healthcare to housing to groceries
I spend alot of time in the ER because of a chronic illness. I fully believe they let this happen. Ive seen the worst in nurses and doctors. So many of them dont care and are severely overworked into apathy these days. Dont trust them, watch everything they do, take an advocate or person into appointments with you to just witness. Dont go to procedures alone if you can help it
So people like you who are a drain on resources and are more than likely difficult and demanding are why nurses and cna's in the ER's are apathetic. Add the human garbage the police and fire departments dump on them, the homeless that come in and fight with staff any time they want to do something as simple as getting vitals. Yeah...you are a problem patient. An ER karen on face value.
@kenmore01 shouldve paid cash then. Im tired of my insurance going up due to unhealthy, useless people milking medicaid and insurance payouts for their lack of health maintenance
A Nurse explained to me that hospitals treat acute conditions, not chronic care. Hospitals have a small sign posted if their process of treating you, and if you don’t meet those guidelines they will discharge you. Everyone needs an Advocate. And that Advocate should take notes and ask questions!
Ms. Laura... I just know she had a beautiful heart, because she fed stray cats. My condolences to her family and fur-babies, who I hope will find good homes and continue to get fed. I hope the neighbors start feeding them until help arrives, because it's cold.
Is it another case of a corporate hospital (they all are now) rolling a patient outside and leaving them there because they have no proof that they can pay? Never ever let a family member go into the hospital alone. Way back in the early 80s the Scottish boyfriend of an Irish exchange-student friend of mine in college came to San Diego to visit her. One night they were walking back home from a movie theater and he was hit by a hit-and-run driver. He was in Scripps Hospital for almost a week in a coma. A day after he came out of the coma, the hospital decided he couldn't pay because he was a day-laborer in Scotland. He had medical travel insurance and it made no difference. They put him in an ambulance and dumped him at his girlfriend's apartment. He was completely out of it. My mother called the hospital over and over for two days and when she finally told them she was getting her lawyer involved (she didn't have a lawyer), they came and got him and he was in the hospital for well over a week. A little over 40 years ago - so much worse now.
Everything you said is based in ignorance and conjecture. This isn't the early 80's. There are now federal laws that dictate how people can be discharged.
Go to jail for what exactly? Are hospitals supposed to be able to force a grown up adult into staying? Should they hold someone against their will to keep them "safe"? Even when there is no suicidal ideations or outward signs that the person in question isn't lucid? WTF should anyone go to jail for here? How do you know they didn't check on her? How do you know she didn't refuse to take any buses that came through? How do you know she didn't refuse to be helped? Should they have handcuffed her to a chair in the lobby to keep her inside? You don't know shit, but want someone in jail. Fuckin duh mass people running their mouth.
Couple years back EMS brought someone in to the ER in a city east of here. Found them sitting dead in the wheelchair in the ER after a day. Seems someone noticed, finally. Staff said they called their name three times but got no reply so figured they went home. There's home and there's Home. This should be an interesting story of what happened.
I was in one hospital and witnessed a frantic search for a gurney ridden patient that was missing, gurney and all. Probably wanted the gurney... Long and short, they eventually found the patient. He'd be thoughtfully rolled out of the hallway and into a supply closet, where he was lost - literally, deceased for hours. The hospital swiftly paid a cash settlement with the impoverished family.
@@spvillano Who would put a person in a supply room? Possibly they determined he was already dead, pushed him in to not cause screaming if a civilian realised it or to just get the hallway cleared and then forgot in the rush. Probably woke up in the middle of their night remembering there was something they had forgotten, but what was it? Must have been a surprise to the staff member looking for a new pencil. Expensive, too.
@@richardw3470 investigation revealed it was a staff member who was clearing the hallway and simply forgot. To call it a major violation of policies and procedures would be an understatement, as once one's within the department, patients are to be tracked for location, time, who's moving or working on the patient, etc to prevent a "forgotten" or "lost" patient. And it did cost them a settlement and fines, the fines likely exceeding what the family involved received. If memory serves, it was more of a linen supply closet though, which rather made it odder, given an ED would go through linens quickly. But of course, nothing was released beyond the bare bones to the public, as that hospital already had and retains an infamous reputation in the community as malpractice central. That always surprised me, as it's owned and operated by the few remaining Sisters of Mercy.
This is so sad! I pray more answers come out and they are truth. I also pray that others will feed the kitties she loved, in her memory (and check the indoors in case she had inside friends, as well).
Are you talking about somebody in the family winning the ghetto lottery? Meanwhile, people are denied access to healthcare in the community because of the social media vigilantes.
@@aftonair no I’m someone who doesn’t want my hospital closed down you trifling…. Anyway, you don’t even know the story and you’re rushing to judgment. Old people wander off.
They probably discharged her to the street. A hospital did that to me once. I had a minor head injury and was mildly confused. I wandered around the town and finally called an airport taxi service (I don’t know why) and they came and took me home.
An ambulance company dropped me off at ER after a brown recluse bite without telling hospital staff I was there.😢 I damn near died. I would start there.
I was dumped off at our local hospital, unconsious, and left there bleeding into my brain from an aneuyrism for over 3 hours until my husband finally located me. He immediately began filming the scene, and when the staff realized what he was doing they rushed me back for scans. I was helecoptored to a city hospital where I remained in intensive care for 3 weeks. By the grace of God and the one family member I have, I survived. THEY DON"T CARE!
@@kathyrogers2065Yep just look at the broad who just got arrested for breaking bones of infants in the NICU. Y'all probably family. Need to also look up your other family members who have been convicted of killing patients and poisoning them. Guess who those DEI persons were? 🤪 They look just like you.
@@kathyrogers2065 Do you even know what DEI is? I have a strong feeling you don’t. Quit watching faux entertainment for your news and do some actual research.
OMG. The poor woman. My sincere and horrified sympathy for her loved ones. Hope someone can take over with the cats as I’m sure she would wish. ( I cared for many too.) ❤
Hopefully cameras on hospital property and maybe around the area caught her and will show what happened. Security must not patrol hospital property at all.
"As we are afraid of an incoming lawsuit, we will not be commenting and, as medical records are protected by "hipa" laws, are minimally cooperating with investigators!"
Can't really figure out who's to blame here until we get more facts. Did the ambulance crew leave her in the ambulance alone What she admitted into the hospital? Did she even enter the hospital? Was she in a private room? Was she in a waiting room? There's so many questions we need answered before we can figure this out. Two and a half minute clip doesn't give us enough evidence.
@ThePhoenixcompanies You sound like another insurance company. I have a HIGH Premium / HIGH Deductible with United, and they deny everything all the time. Dont lecture ME!! I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT COMPANY!!! INSURANCE IS A SCAM!!! YUP, I CHECKED!! YOU ARE ANOTHER INSURANCE VULTURE!!!
@susanmcconnell6041 I have been self-employed since I was 20. I have purchased my own and my families insurance for the last 45 years. My deductible has ranged from $250 to $7500 during that time. The most I have ever paid out of pocket is $8700. I have had numerous claims over the years and have never had a claim denied. In fact, I have collected more in benefits than I have paid in premiums. Forty-five years ago, most medical insurance for the self-employed had no drug plan. Today, since there are so many new drugs they almost all do. The last time I had a lifetime cap, it was 2 million. Today, there is no longer a lifetime caps by law. I am now on Medicare and have a $240 deductible with a Medigsp G plan and Medicare Part A, B, and D plans. I am paying less than half of what I used to pay. If you are having insurance issues, I suggest you shop around. If you go with the lowest premium discount company, you are going to get what you have paid for just like other things in life.
@@ThePhoenixcompaniesbut are you promoting your politics by denying the problem.. I hadn’t realized the horror in our healthcare system was political ?
I have seen people give a woman a tray of food and leave. This woman didn’t have arms nor legs. That made me cry so much to see my grandmother be in a place where people treated humans like animals. It’s so sad the lack of not just empathy but humanity in medicine
In large hospitals the kitchen staff delivers the meals. It's up to the nursing staff to assist patients. When I started out in nursing in 1976, the meal cart was brought to the floor and the nursing aides and nurses, if time allowed, took the trays into the patients' rooms and opened up milk cartons, etc., if patients needed it. After all the trays were delivered, we fed the patients who couldn't feed themselves. We helped patients bathe or bathed them. We even gave backrubs before bedtime. It sure hasn't been like that for years and is such a shame.
Yrs ago, when I was floor nurse had patient whose glass eye need to be removed, and washed, daily. I was almost in tears when I removed, and patientsm was so grateful. Saw same with patients receiving but tube feeding no mouth care, mouths smelled like sewers
It’s a mystery when we the people ask questions but if the police are asking they can get a video from 3 miles away showing what happened. It’s not a mystery. It’s a damn shame.
We are spending 4.9 trillion (17.6% of GDP) on healthcare and this is what we have. Something must be very wrong or we as Americans are really unhealthy.
Probably both. Standard American Diet (SAD) makes us unhealthy. Criminal health insurance companies finish us off by making sure we can't get medical help. If we still don't die, maybe abandoning us alone outside after they have extracted what payment they can will do the trick. Bonus points if it's dead of winter, dead of night, or scorching hot outside.
Two years, ago here in my little town of Grand Junction, CO, a mentally ill woman was taken to Community Hospital's ED, where she was not being watched and pulled the fire alarm. She was tossed out into to snow with only a Hospital gown, her walker and her oxygen tank. She was found and taken to another hospital. I was told this horrible story by one of our Mesa County Commissioners after my husband and I went to her to tell her how my husband , who has Bipolar 1 disorder, was not cared for by the standards set fourth by the Joint Commission and he attempted suicide at this same hospital. Health and mental Healthcare is horrible for those mentally ill or aging. I'm sure they released her too soon and she died in the snow.
Have you ever dealt with a socialist healthcare system like in Germany? Of course not. Don' blame the companies blame the government and their Affordable Care Act courtesy of Obama.
Healthcare system is so bad in the U.S. because for profit insurance companies and big pharma runs it with blessing from our bought and corrupt politicians. Our politicians have no incentive to change anything because: 1. They have their own free healthcare system - compliments of us taxpayers and 2. They get political donations from the pharmaceutical industry and the insurance companies and are owned by them.
My heart breaks that a wonderful animal lover died. I hope it wasn't from neglect from the hospital. May Loria Annette Fells rest in the sweetest of peace. ❤❤😢😢
The healthcare system in this country lacks basic human compassion and decency which is no wonder so many people are losing faith and trust in it. The same can be say for law enforcement and the education system, it's all crap here
I blame the lowering of standards for everything including medical care. Who treated her? Was it an actual doctor? Did this person actually go to a credentialed medical school or was this some foreign diploma? I’ve seen doctors who can’t even do basic arithmetic. It makes it difficult to trust anyone in the medical field after what’s happened in recent years.
Years ago, I worked in tech support for the state. I had to walk people through renewing professional certifications. I helped doctors that were SO BAD at following directions I Googled them to make sure they were nowhere near me. I would not trust them to put on a band-aid.
Speaking from a person who work in a hospital. That woman was released without being given proper care. People are kicked out or even arrested gor returning to a hospital to receive care.
Ive been watching hospitals around the country have a patient delivered and they refuse to treat that patient so their security guards wheel them out to curb and leave them
@@fragtastic4 Yes, but it only says they have to be medically stable. Hospitals don't have to make sure they have a home to go to or anyone to pick them up. Although most hospitals try to, not all do. You'll see some very sad videos on TH-cam - just Google patient dumping.
@@geezelouise3261 If they're medically stable, then the hospital has done their job. When did we get into this stupid mindset that someone has to take care of others. Adults have the right to do as they please within the confines of the law. No one dumps patients.
I am a pharmacy specialist, been headhunted for work even over the years. Worked for the government. I have NEVER left my parents alone in the hospital even if that meant days with minimal sleep............ I've been in hospitals where I'd not trust the staff to treat a stray dog properly (it's an idiom on their ineptitude), never mind a person. I've watched nurses dispose of needles in ER waiting rooms, give wrong medications because they didn't ID the patient, not have half a clue what they are doing or even for that matter what patient they're supposed to be addressing (both parents have been called the WRONG name multiple times). And half the time you go back to the actual ER room - with the beds, etc. - they're yakking about BBQs instead of their jobs.
Doesn't a security guard patrol around the hospital and look around and make notes and inquire about people in the parking lot... Or are they busy watching the view and eating donuts inside where it's warm...
Luigi is a murderer but corporations are cool cause they don’t breathe like patients…they don’t die either. What can anybody do? We’ll see if there are 12 idiots that convict Luigi…but I think people (no matter what political affiliation) are waking up.
Only 62...What a tragic story. I hope the son gets his TRUTHFUL answers but I just have a feeling they will lie. Hospitals on average are NOT what they used to be. Too many get into the business for the wrong reasons today..Like how often do we see nurses, doctors, orderlies and other hospital and care home staff abuse, kill and steal from patients? I work at a PT in my friend's private practice but before when I did my clinicals and worked at a few rehabs and hospitals as a traveling PT I saw constant things I disliked by staff from all levels. And today SO MANY hate their jobs and even if they don't mean to they end up taking it out on the patients. And in this case I think someone was distracted or cared more about their phone or something and forgot her in the cold. My first guess. What the son needs to do is go to the PD and ask them to get all video and if they don't jump to it then I'd go to the county Sheriff and if they don't go to the State Troopers.
It may be she was treated AND checked HERSELF OUT. Its called "A.M.A.". "Against Medical Advice". My Mrs is a ret R.N. She says its Not uncommon. Plus unless the Doctors place an individual on a 72 Hour "Psych Hopd"? YOu cannot leg stop them.
She must have not had insurance. I do not have insurance. My job is a low paying job. When I get sick I do not get the treatment that I deserve because I don't have insurance. They disregard me, they checked my blood pressure and temperature and will their eyes. In February last year I went to a hospital three times within that same month. I was having trouble breathing. On the last visit they finally x-rated my chest to find out I had pneumonia. But you sure can bet I was billed for all three visits even though I wasn't treated
Hospital have cameras inside and outside There is no mystery! Check the cameras and find out what happened! This should never happen in this day and age! 2025
Way too many unanswered questions. Due to privacy I can see info not being released. She could of went, was treated and released, discharged, left of her own accord, admitted and slept walked. I mention the last one only because I am a sleepwalker and did this on a hospital admission in 76. Early labor that stopped, fell asleep and made it past nurses desk, down the elevator, to the parking lot before a citizen spotted me, she had her husband go tell security. This was in summer so no weather element. No one in labor/delivery knew I was missing. After that spouse never left my side, he had only left to go to cafeteria for food, came back thought I went for some test.
Hospitals make RN'S work 12 hour shifts multiple days in a row. Residents work round the clock with little over sight until something goes wrong...then it's their fault even they are basically students. Social workers are under staffed and over worked expected to discharge and deal with every patient and their family crisis. RN'S, SOCIAL WORKERS, THERAPISTS, MEDICAL ASSIATANTS are all under staffed, over worked and under paid. It's a mad house. Meanwhile CEO'S make huge salaries. There are managers knee deep everywhere for everything except actual patient care. Insurance dictates all discharges and families get angry at the discharge social worker/RN due to Insurance barriers. It's wild. Madness really.
I have PTSD from the last years of my career watching the money grab. It is terrifying what medicine has become. Doctors are no longer in charge, AI will replace them.
Well she was going to be dead after seeing her future medical bill anyways. US hospitals are understaffed, they don't want to pay for more nurses and other professionals and this kind of thing happens. Very sad. Hope she is resting in a better place now.
There has to be security cameras everywhere so there is some footage of her that is yet to be seen. The hospital is required to be tight-lipped until their legal department says otherwise.
I’m a Paramedic. Patient care and report should have been given to a nurse. Sign to accept that patient. If no one accepted the patient, the ambulance is at fault. If a nurse accepted her, they are at fault. Unless the patient signed out AMA.
This news story generated way more “heat” than “light”. It seemed designed to lead people to jump to the worst conclusions. A simple blurb about her dying in the hospital, and promise to follow up with more information. The endless speculation does nothing to help keeping an informed public.
If negligence is found on the part of the hospital and a wrongful death lawsuit ensues the cost of caring for the cats she fed should be included in the settlement and payed to the people willing to adopt or foster these cats. Shelters are horrible places for cats and adoptions are down due to the cost of caring for them.
Likely another case where they just dump them outside. Happened to me during covid. Made me sit on a curb in the cold to wait for my ride. I could barely walk after having a seizure that they said was drug use. I dont use drugs and a simple test would have proved it.
The hospital likely has to protect medical privacy, and knows whether the woman was admitted/discharged, etc. They can't legally share that information. They might have been able to share that info with her next of kin. Very sad if they discharged her or lost track of her without her being competent enough in the moment to preserve her own life.
Not surprised. Hospitals, especially ER staff; have very little regard for patients. You're treated more as an inconvenience than a patient. THIS doesn't even remotely surprise me.
Cameras have to be available, right?
My thought also.
Oh that footage is long gone. That was probably the first thing they did, damage control. Anything to escape accountability.
@@Iosthought😂 It was a blizzard. Do you know anything about Healthcare? Most of the already overworked health professionals were stuck at work all weekend, sleeping on floors, or working 18 hours. They can't even leave if they had 4wd, by law someone has to relieve them. Security ' probably wasn't there, they aren't a Healthcare provider. Lol, hope you had it 'real easy over the weekend, while everything, including gas stations were closed! Hospitals weren't!
@@Iosthought That's right. If they think someone is "suspicious" or committing a crime they call cops right away. Probably saw this lady needed help and security ignored her and let her die in the cold.
@@nonyabiz1209😂 I was a nurse in blizzard conditions and we were never ever asked to stay. Who are you trying to fool cuz it's not me
I was in an ER about a month ago. Not this one. But the complete disregard for and lack of empathy and compassion was an eye opener. You’re less than just a number to those people.
We've come a long way from Marcus Welby.
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Guy in the ER literally took his anger out on me jabbing a needle in my thigh.
@@AndieJ32209 welcome to your Godless world.
Contract er docs to deny uninsured or underinsured and divert to outpatient clinics. Coworkers say she had had a stroke 6 months ago and was a nice lady. Er docs are a disaster unless it's clear ins will pay hosp versus out pt care
i have high blood pressure and went to baptist in miami . they doped me up on adavant to the point i was unconcious and left me outside on a bench at 2am...iam someone with a job , insurance, family. imagine what they do to people who dont have these things. hospitals are nasty business
That's crazy!
It will only get worse. How much of it is the hospitals, & how much is unqualified ambulance drivers?
Yikes! That’s dreadful! Surely criminal?
@@sicotshit7068 You're ready to blame the ambulance drivers and not the corporations that run hospitals and make all of the decisions regarding pateint treatments, mmm kay. This is what is wrong with America, we keep giving rich white men the benefit of the doubt. Shame on you!
Sounds like they took good care of you then 😅
Left alone to die. Horrible and tragic - where has our Humanity gone?
I'm sure they won't forget to bill her insurance.
It was traded for money.
Where was her son who loved her so much? Why did he allow her to be alone? And the report clearly said they don’t know if she was treated, admitted, or discharged.
In USA, humanity is put behind a price tag. Pay up if you want to be treated as a person.
that alone is BS, they are trying to cover their a s s because they don't care about people. hospitals, cops, all the same @@jazcor
The hospital most likely released her out into the blizzard…. Whoever is responsible committed murder in my opinion. Someone has to go to jail over this
There are homeless in the blizzard every day the hospital is not responsible to hause anyone
@@ezragonzalez8936They are responsible for the safety of patients. And she was not homeless.
ewe can bet theyve already erased altered or hid any video surveillance footage of her even visiting that hospital she's PROBABLY someone that no lawyer will field a wrongful death lawsuit for any remaining kin anyway - I've been tellin people for YEARS now to just NOT GET HURT or GET ILL if YOU'RE NOT A HIGH PROFILE person that the media and or Establishment NEEDS for something because if you're just "a common citizen" there IS a pretty good chance you'll wind up a corpse seeking medical help - it's BEEN that weight for at least three decades ever since doctors and hospitals started getting sued for making mistakes on operating tables doing ctuff like FORGETTING to REMOVE things from peoples interiors when doing procedures and sewing em up and sending em home to get an infection in a month or less and there's been SO MUCH aggression ON HOSPTIAL property sometimes with people actively making death threats against doctors that they fail at suing or whatever sometimes ITS A MESS ok people on the street KNOW this stuff is real and some of the working class knows it too thats why healthcare has been an issue for a while thats not really getting fixed because civilization is taking forever to fix - CIVILIZATION OVERALL is a mess it really is and most people don't think it CAN bee fixed thats why most people just ignore it all and keep heading for the cliff NOT LIKE the lady that bailed out of her car in motion that was some SIK shiyat too - people are crazy and or fed up that's all it is - there's a hospital in MY Area that's been um VERY HOSTILE to the public for a while now too and um yeah a few years ago I SAW THEM with MY OWN EYES one day I ducked in there for like two minutes to use the pisser and refill a water bottle I think it was and while I was there I noticed some lady that was fighting cancer and she was having a FIT because the hospital was REFUSING to treat her and SECURTY THREW HER OUT into the street and yeah dde THIS WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER and SHE WASNT EVEN DRESSED FOR THE WEATHER MAN and I talked to her for a few minutes SHE HAD A LITTLE BITTY SCHNITZEL DOG with er too or some kind of itty bitty TINY dog and SHE COULDNT GO HOME her husband was a lunatic and had took her truck keys and changed the locks in the house she said and I was just like SHOCKED man I was like HOW THE HELL can the world BEE SO CRUEL to people that are getting slammed with trouble - so yeah I DID take an hour to hsutle her across the street to a um WALGREENS pharmacy it was and talked to the store manager for a minute and TOLD HER what was up and that the lady NEEDED TO TAKE SHELTER in the store for maybe 30 minutes while I CALLED some people I KNEW that ran a homeless charity shelter ring operation kind of thing and told THEM and send SEND A CAR to my location RIGHT NOW and get this woman secured IN SHELTER or SHE'S DEAD by dawn we'll figure out what to do about getting her help being treated for cancer LATER for NOW just GET HER SHELTERED and they did one fo the shelter volunteers came and got her in his personal vehicle and took her away - and YEAH DUDE I DID BARK At the security guards before I got her off the property I TOLD em I said man YOU GUYS ARE RABID PSYCHOS WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS ILLEGAL - but honestly IN FAIRNESS to hospital security FOR OTHER REASONS Ive already mentioned working as security at a hospital is a NIGHTMARE working securty ANYWHERE Today is really but especially hospitals
@@ezragonzalez8936if you send someone vulnerable out into the streets during hazardous weather with no regard for whether or not they have a safe way to where they’re going or even a destination, you have failed just as a human being. and people wonder what’s wrong with humanity. it costs a dollar for a bus ticket in most cities and it’s completely free to call 211 for local resources like a warming shelter. i did it MYSELF as an overnight gas station employee in the dead of winter because i couldn’t live with myself otherwise. it’s not hard.
@@ezragonzalez8936
She wasn't homeless. She worked at Costco. Look at the article again
I spent a week with my mom in the hospital a couple years back and if you have a senior in your life please know that someone needs to stay with them for the majority of the time they are there. A coffee or lunch break is about the amount of time they should be alone if they are confused. Hospitals have changed a lot in the past ten years.
Very true, I stay with both of my parents when they stayed at hospitals for long periods of time. The hospital staff moved suspiciously. It was to the point my mother's doctor told me to take her home because the hospital staff including the custodian staff were rude and disrespectful to patients.
very true.
my mom ended up in hospital, couldn't swallow for some reason and the first thing they were doing was giving her a flu shot when I told then she already got one at krogers, she kept getting flu shots and they wanted to give her more flu shots, she died shortly afterwards
If some1 dies unexpected please get an autopsy
This ret psychiatrist nurse, and ret psychiatrist totally agree. I tell ppl your loved ones can be in the worse nursing home, but if family visited freq, they will get good care. Former dir of nursing home too
I live in Florida. I'm 69 and in good shape. I have no insurance (by choice) i live alone and slipped in the tub and cracked my head open. I went to the ER ... Got stitches, Xrays and screened for neurological injuries. When they learned I lived alone they insisted I stay overnight ... They moved my car into long term parking and kept me for two nights. Just to make sure. They weren't thrilled with me driving myself home, but, a security gaurd got my car and they requested I give them a call when I got home. I didn't call immediately and they called me. I was also told billing will be in touch and work something out. They asked my age and pointed out I must have Medicare part A. And indeed I did and they told me they'd accept that in total. So ... My point is ... Not all hospitals are created equally.
You are a fool if you don’t have insurance and the only reason they treated you well is because they found out you had insurance to cover your stay.
That's wonderful, but I'm afraid what you've just described is the extreme, rare exception! Even at private hospitals, which are more often WORSE than public/county ones, except for the way they're decorated.
I'm happy they did all this for you & hope you're doing well!
Wow, you are so lucky! I went to the ER, and the "doctor" (only a PA) didn't even want to come into the room and see me. He wanted to treat me for a migraine without ever speaking to me. I told the nurse I wasn't taking the drugs without talking to the Dr first. I overheard him tell the nurse if I am in there more than 2 minutes to come get him and say he was needed immediately. I explained my symptoms and told him I have had migraines for 40 years and have never went to the ER for a migraine, I don't think I have a migraine, this feels different, he told me I have a migraine and just take the iv drugs. I felt like I was going to die after taking the drugs, I could barely talk after. He came in all proud, and said how do you feel? I said just awful, you could see the oh shit look on his face, all of a sudden he wanted to LISTEN to me! By the way, I left before he killed me, and went to a nurse practitioner at a clinic a day or two later, she listened to me and we figured it out in 10 minutes. These 30 something, not full doctors with giant egos at hospitals will kill people! BTW, the drugs he gave me made my condition way worse!
@@bobbiking2123You mean she had no insurance…
Thank God ~ I'm so glad to hear you were treated so well.
The local hospitals here in Greenville SC are pretty good too.
Don't get me wrong, sometimes you come across someone who is burnt out & kinda crabby, but overall our Family has been treated well.
I pray that *EVERYONE* who finds themselves having an emergency or even a doctor visit is treated well & handled with care.🤗💞🙏🏻🕊️❤️🩹
Every person hospitalized needs a family member or friend as an advocate, especially the elderly. An unnecessary loss, so sad
You are exactly right! I could not imagine not having anyone? How sad! We have to make sure our elders and children are safe and sound! ❤
63 What ??? that's not elderly.
@@trh2-f7vthe reference to the elderly wasn’t specific to this story🙄🤦🏾♀️It’s general advice, and wise words at that. So while I agree 63 isn’t elderly, OP wasn’t stating the deceased woman in this story was elderly
She had a son and he should've been contacted, somewhere along the line.
@@trh2-f7v That depends on who you ask, however it's obvious she was not in good hands and an investigation should be conducted.
I've seen this before. With my own eyes. In my own Portland Oregon. They rolled a old woman out of the hospital. And left her at night freezing 🥶 cold she fell I went in and got security and they rolled her back in. What the fuck ‼️
Interesting. I’ve seen this twice at Grady hospital in Atlanta,GA. In 2006 a Security guard rolled 2 separate ppl, on 2 seperate occasions, in front of the McDonald’s adjacent to the hospital. I was doing my clinicals at that time. I admit I froze and did nothing. It was obvious those ppl were not stabilized.
They don’t care, they will dump people anywhere
Which hospital?
I appreciate you posting this. Hospitals don't care about sick people. They care about $$$
Hospitals are not hotels, did she contact anyone to pick her up? These people can't stay on hospital grounds post-discharge. If she's dumb enough to stick around on a freezing night then I don't know what to tell you.
Elders are not valued.
63 is not elderly.....
@@trh2-f7v Misty didn't say elderly she said elders. There is a difference. Actually anyone that is older than another is their elder. For example, a 20 year old would be an elder to a 16 year old
No one is
@@trh2-f7vwhat?
@@trh2-f7v63 is literally elderly. The average female life expectancy for a black woman in the US is 78 which includes every death.
Similar happened to my boyfriend when he was admitted into the ER for vomiting related to T1D and kidney disease. They released him just a few hours later after deciding he was faking, still vomiting on the bench outside at 2am bc theyd discharged him. Another time after hed been admitted for DKA, they discharged him before he was able to hold down food or medication, and didnt wait for me to arrive before letting him wander around the hospital parking lot with no shirt, no shoes, no wallet no ID, No glasses, and no cellphone bc it had died before i arrived. Ive never yelled at hospital staff until that moment. I found him in the middle of the lot in summer Arizona completey fatigued and out of it before they could even walk outside to help me find where theyd released him into the wild. Additionally the staff constantly tells him hes lying or faking DESPITE HIS MEDICAL RECORDS CONTAINING DIAGNOSIS FROM THAT SAME HOSPITAL. Whats the point if DXing patients if youre going to tell them theyre lying? They didnt even TELL HIM he was DXd with half the things he has, but when need to be seen about symptoms, hes a liar!
AMERICAN HEALTHCARE IS A JOKE AND THEY WANT YOU TO DIE.
Awee I'm so sorry that happened to you guys. How sad😢
Because of obamacare!
the same exact thing has been happening to me for years and I was diagnosed with a kidney tumor. they keep telling me I'm lying as my body wastes away and my lymph nodes are now involved and they still won't even say I have cancer. I used to be a pharmacy tech and I saw this all the time at my job. I've had patients die from neglect. doctors now don't know ANYTHING about their patients. I've been trying to blow the whistle on this for years.
@@kimpeterson8090it's because of private equity. not Obamacare. private equity has taken over everything in this country from healthcare to housing to groceries
As an ER nurse I am so very sorry for the maltreatment
I spend alot of time in the ER because of a chronic illness. I fully believe they let this happen. Ive seen the worst in nurses and doctors. So many of them dont care and are severely overworked into apathy these days. Dont trust them, watch everything they do, take an advocate or person into appointments with you to just witness. Dont go to procedures alone if you can help it
So people like you who are a drain on resources and are more than likely difficult and demanding are why nurses and cna's in the ER's are apathetic. Add the human garbage the police and fire departments dump on them, the homeless that come in and fight with staff any time they want to do something as simple as getting vitals.
Yeah...you are a problem patient. An ER karen on face value.
Let me guess - her insurance company said she didn’t need to be in the hospital.
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u know nothing
@@Bonzi_Buddy Russian bot.
More likely they probably denied coverage so the hospital kicked her out.
@kenmore01 shouldve paid cash then. Im tired of my insurance going up due to unhealthy, useless people milking medicaid and insurance payouts for their lack of health maintenance
The hospital needs to be put on investigation
You think?
Oh it is.
No shit Sherlock 🙄
A Nurse explained to me that hospitals treat acute conditions, not chronic care. Hospitals have a small sign posted if their process of treating you, and if you don’t meet those guidelines they will discharge you. Everyone needs an Advocate. And that Advocate should take notes and ask questions!
Ms. Laura... I just know she had a beautiful heart, because she fed stray cats. My condolences to her family and fur-babies, who I hope will find good homes and continue to get fed. I hope the neighbors start feeding them until help arrives, because it's cold.
Is it another case of a corporate hospital (they all are now) rolling a patient outside and leaving them there because they have no proof that they can pay? Never ever let a family member go into the hospital alone. Way back in the early 80s the Scottish boyfriend of an Irish exchange-student friend of mine in college came to San Diego to visit her. One night they were walking back home from a movie theater and he was hit by a hit-and-run driver. He was in Scripps Hospital for almost a week in a coma. A day after he came out of the coma, the hospital decided he couldn't pay because he was a day-laborer in Scotland. He had medical travel insurance and it made no difference. They put him in an ambulance and dumped him at his girlfriend's apartment. He was completely out of it. My mother called the hospital over and over for two days and when she finally told them she was getting her lawyer involved (she didn't have a lawyer), they came and got him and he was in the hospital for well over a week. A little over 40 years ago - so much worse now.
The hospital I worked at had a team of lawyers. Don't even try to sue them.
Everything you said is based in ignorance and conjecture. This isn't the early 80's. There are now federal laws that dictate how people can be discharged.
Someone should go to jail. Sadly, no one will 🤬
The white coats and ins CEO'S are never guilty of murder.
Go to jail for what exactly? Are hospitals supposed to be able to force a grown up adult into staying? Should they hold someone against their will to keep them "safe"? Even when there is no suicidal ideations or outward signs that the person in question isn't lucid? WTF should anyone go to jail for here? How do you know they didn't check on her? How do you know she didn't refuse to take any buses that came through? How do you know she didn't refuse to be helped? Should they have handcuffed her to a chair in the lobby to keep her inside? You don't know shit, but want someone in jail. Fuckin duh mass people running their mouth.
@ I knew someone would ask this d*mb question.
Deny, defend, depose
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Wow sure have been seeing like that now it's in the open 😢.
Deport
Was she brown?
Luigi framed
Couple years back EMS brought someone in to the ER in a city east of here. Found them sitting dead in the wheelchair in the ER after a day. Seems someone noticed, finally. Staff said they called their name three times but got no reply so figured they went home. There's home and there's Home. This should be an interesting story of what happened.
I was in one hospital and witnessed a frantic search for a gurney ridden patient that was missing, gurney and all. Probably wanted the gurney...
Long and short, they eventually found the patient. He'd be thoughtfully rolled out of the hallway and into a supply closet, where he was lost - literally, deceased for hours.
The hospital swiftly paid a cash settlement with the impoverished family.
@@spvillano Who would put a person in a supply room? Possibly they determined he was already dead, pushed him in to not cause screaming if a civilian realised it or to just get the hallway cleared and then forgot in the rush. Probably woke up in the middle of their night remembering there was something they had forgotten, but what was it? Must have been a surprise to the staff member looking for a new pencil. Expensive, too.
@@richardw3470 investigation revealed it was a staff member who was clearing the hallway and simply forgot. To call it a major violation of policies and procedures would be an understatement, as once one's within the department, patients are to be tracked for location, time, who's moving or working on the patient, etc to prevent a "forgotten" or "lost" patient.
And it did cost them a settlement and fines, the fines likely exceeding what the family involved received.
If memory serves, it was more of a linen supply closet though, which rather made it odder, given an ED would go through linens quickly.
But of course, nothing was released beyond the bare bones to the public, as that hospital already had and retains an infamous reputation in the community as malpractice central. That always surprised me, as it's owned and operated by the few remaining Sisters of Mercy.
Sorry to hear about this. I hope someone in her neighborhood will take over caring for the cats. Prayers for her friends and family ❤
Yes, I hope the cats are taken care of. Sad story.
This is so sad! I pray more answers come out and they are truth. I also pray that others will feed the kitties she loved, in her memory (and check the indoors in case she had inside friends, as well).
So worried about the animals
I'm sure that's one of the reasons she was worried about the cold weather.
It's not good for the animals.I hope someone looks after them.
@@katherinetucker5380 I'm sure that animal control will provide the same compassionate and thorough care that she was provided.
The hospital is fully responsible for this woman's death.
They must be held accountable.
They probably won't be.
Great point they should just shut it down and you can go to Truman
@@Will2K-001 oh, you are so right (sarcasm) we shouldn't acknowledge or investigate this.
Let me guess.
You are hospital admin/damage control, right?
Are you talking about somebody in the family winning the ghetto lottery? Meanwhile, people are denied access to healthcare in the community because of the social media vigilantes.
@@aftonair no I’m someone who doesn’t want my hospital closed down you trifling…. Anyway, you don’t even know the story and you’re rushing to judgment. Old people wander off.
They probably discharged her to the street. A hospital did that to me once. I had a minor head injury and was mildly confused. I wandered around the town and finally called an airport taxi service (I don’t know why) and they came and took me home.
An ambulance company dropped me off at ER after a brown recluse bite without telling hospital staff I was there.😢 I damn near died.
I would start there.
I was dumped off at our local hospital, unconsious, and left there bleeding into my brain from an aneuyrism for over 3 hours until my husband finally located me. He immediately began filming the scene, and when the staff realized what he was doing they rushed me back for scans. I was helecoptored to a city hospital where I remained in intensive care for 3 weeks. By the grace of God and the one family member I have, I survived. THEY DON"T CARE!
DEI is rampant in our medical fields.
@@kathyrogers2065Yep just look at the broad who just got arrested for breaking bones of infants in the NICU. Y'all probably family. Need to also look up your other family members who have been convicted of killing patients and poisoning them. Guess who those DEI persons were? 🤪
They look just like you.
@@kathyrogers2065 Found the racist! Shame on you, Kathy! Couldn't get into nursing school if you evn tried, lol!
@@kathyrogers2065 Do you even know what DEI is? I have a strong feeling you don’t. Quit watching faux entertainment for your news and do some actual research.
OMG. The poor woman. My sincere and horrified sympathy for her loved ones. Hope someone can take over with the cats as I’m sure she would wish. ( I cared for many too.) ❤
Hopefully cameras on hospital property and maybe around the area caught her and will show what happened. Security must not patrol hospital property at all.
It is likely that the cameras “malfunctioned” at the critical time they would have collected any incriminating evidence.
@@dentalnovember exactly what I was thinking unfortunately
There are cases where security were directly involved in patient dumping processes, per reports I read.
You mean like the cameras on epstiens cell??
@@megastick9324 Trump had Epstein killed because he didn't want hundreds of visits to the island to get out.....many people are saying....
"As we are afraid of an incoming lawsuit, we will not be commenting and, as medical records are protected by "hipa" laws, are minimally cooperating with investigators!"
Can't really figure out who's to blame here until we get more facts.
Did the ambulance crew leave her in the ambulance alone
What she admitted into the hospital?
Did she even enter the hospital?
Was she in a private room?
Was she in a waiting room?
There's so many questions we need answered before we can figure this out.
Two and a half minute clip doesn't give us enough evidence.
I agree! Also, did she call anyone to pick her up or did the hospital ask her about whether she needed help getting transportation home?
The poor lady....the poor cats she was feeding.... so sad all around.
Did she have United Healthcare? Denial of services?
Quit trying to promote your politics using someone else's tragedy.
@ThePhoenixcompanies You sound like another insurance company. I have a HIGH Premium / HIGH Deductible with United, and they deny everything all the time. Dont lecture ME!! I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT COMPANY!!! INSURANCE IS A SCAM!!! YUP, I CHECKED!! YOU ARE ANOTHER INSURANCE VULTURE!!!
@susanmcconnell6041 I have been self-employed since I was 20. I have purchased my own and my families insurance for the last 45 years. My deductible has ranged from $250 to $7500 during that time. The most I have ever paid out of pocket is $8700. I have had numerous claims over the years and have never had a claim denied. In fact, I have collected more in benefits than I have paid in premiums.
Forty-five years ago, most medical insurance for the self-employed had no drug plan. Today, since there are so many new drugs they almost all do. The last time I had a lifetime cap, it was 2 million. Today, there is no longer a lifetime caps by law.
I am now on Medicare and have a $240 deductible with a Medigsp G plan and Medicare Part A, B, and D plans. I am paying less than half of what I used to pay.
If you are having insurance issues, I suggest you shop around. If you go with the lowest premium discount company, you are going to get what you have paid for just like other things in life.
@@ThePhoenixcompanies bow down to your masters.
@@ThePhoenixcompaniesbut are you promoting your politics by denying the problem.. I hadn’t realized the horror in our healthcare system was political ?
I have seen people give a woman a tray of food and leave. This woman didn’t have arms nor legs. That made me cry so much to see my grandmother be in a place where people treated humans like animals. It’s so sad the lack of not just empathy but humanity in medicine
In large hospitals the kitchen staff delivers the meals. It's up to the nursing staff to assist patients. When I started out in nursing in 1976, the meal cart was brought to the floor and the nursing aides and nurses, if time allowed, took the trays into the patients' rooms and opened up milk cartons, etc., if patients needed it. After all the trays were delivered, we fed the patients who couldn't feed themselves. We helped patients bathe or bathed them. We even gave backrubs before bedtime. It sure hasn't been like that for years and is such a shame.
@@barbrn It's 1 nurse to 7 to 8 patients, and 1 CNA to abt 30 pts now....money money money....in the big CEO's pockets.
Yrs ago, when I was floor nurse had patient whose glass eye need to be removed, and washed, daily. I was almost in tears when I removed, and patientsm was so grateful. Saw same with patients receiving but tube feeding no mouth care, mouths smelled like sewers
@@barbrnawee you're an absolute sweetheart of a nurse ❤
@@CherylBaldwin1208 Thank you, I tried.
Somebody please feed the cats that she fed 🙏🙏🙏
Especially in this cold weather 😢
Yes, I hope their cared for.
It’s a mystery when we the people ask questions but if the police are asking they can get a video from 3 miles away showing what happened.
It’s not a mystery. It’s a damn shame.
No one to answer inside? No cameras outside to see if there was an assailant? Or did this 60+ y/o lady get denied, delayed?
We are spending 4.9 trillion (17.6% of GDP) on healthcare and this is what we have. Something must be very wrong or we as Americans are really unhealthy.
I know people who criticize our Canadian healthcare but this would never happen in Canada. Everyone gets taken care of.
Probably both. Standard American Diet (SAD) makes us unhealthy. Criminal health insurance companies finish us off by making sure we can't get medical help. If we still don't die, maybe abandoning us alone outside after they have extracted what payment they can will do the trick. Bonus points if it's dead of winter, dead of night, or scorching hot outside.
This would not happen in Australia
This would happen in Canada. She would be dead before she could even be seen in the first place
Two years, ago here in my little town of Grand Junction, CO, a mentally ill woman was taken to Community Hospital's ED, where she was not being watched and pulled the fire alarm. She was tossed out into to snow with only a Hospital gown, her walker and her oxygen tank. She was found and taken to another hospital. I was told this horrible story by one of our Mesa County Commissioners after my husband and I went to her to tell her how my husband , who has Bipolar 1 disorder, was not cared for by the standards set fourth by the Joint Commission and he attempted suicide at this same hospital.
Health and mental Healthcare is horrible for those mentally ill or aging.
I'm sure they released her too soon and she died in the snow.
Lol, JCCO doesnt give a shit 😅
I seen that, how very sad! She was asking for help and they let her die! Shame!!!
@kelleyturner6584 I think most will agree there is a problem. What solutions are you offering?
Blame that on Reagan, he eliminated Mental Health care.
We recently had two people die in the emergency room at our hospital.Most hospitals are understaffed and/ or they just don't care anymore
Hospitals are horrible places these days..
Just horrible.. Florida's are friggin scary..
Shame on hospital staff, absolutely deplorable
How is it their fault? Do you have information they haven't released?
The healthcare system is much worse than third world countries… People work so hard here and do not deserve such a failing system.
Have you ever dealt with a socialist healthcare system like in Germany? Of course not. Don' blame the companies blame the government and their Affordable Care Act courtesy of Obama.
Healthcare system is so bad in the U.S. because for profit insurance companies and big pharma runs it with blessing from our bought and corrupt politicians. Our politicians have no incentive to change anything because: 1. They have their own free healthcare system - compliments of us taxpayers and 2. They get political donations from the pharmaceutical industry and the insurance companies and are owned by them.
Have you ever been treated at a hospital outside of this country?
What a nightmare! That poor woman! 😢
My heart breaks that a wonderful animal lover died. I hope it wasn't from neglect from the hospital. May Loria Annette Fells rest in the sweetest of peace. ❤❤😢😢
Amen!
This is the things that bring out the mangionie in people.
Someone dropped the ball. She was brought in by ambulance. There is a record of admitting, treatment and release and no one knows a damn thing. 🤬
She had to have been charted. She needs to request her chart.
The healthcare system in this country lacks basic human compassion and decency which is no wonder so many people are losing faith and trust in it. The same can be say for law enforcement and the education system, it's all crap here
Unfortunately, compassion and decency don't prevent Medicare funds from being depleted or encourage people taking better care of their health.
And Trump wants to give this healthcare system to Canada and Greenland. I don't think they will agree to lowering their standards.
Very well said!!
I blame the lowering of standards for everything including medical care. Who treated her? Was it an actual doctor? Did this person actually go to a credentialed medical school or was this some foreign diploma? I’ve seen doctors who can’t even do basic arithmetic. It makes it difficult to trust anyone in the medical field after what’s happened in recent years.
Years ago, I worked in tech support for the state. I had to walk people through renewing professional certifications. I helped doctors that were SO BAD at following directions I Googled them to make sure they were nowhere near me. I would not trust them to put on a band-aid.
I’d bet the hospital found out she had no insurance
Sponsored by United healthcare
Oh shidtt
The family needs to check on this. Sue the hospital
I need more information. I have seen people leave a hospital on their own if they don't want to wait to see a doctor.
Absolutely horrible.
Speaking from a person who work in a hospital. That woman was released without being given proper care. People are kicked out or even arrested gor returning to a hospital to receive care.
North Kansas City Hospital has gone Down Hill. The ER is horrible.
Ive been watching hospitals around the country have a patient delivered and they refuse to treat that patient so their security guards wheel them out to curb and leave them
A case of patient dumping?
Possibly
No, there is federal law against it and hospitals get a ton of federal money.
@@fragtastic4 Yes, but it only says they have to be medically stable. Hospitals don't have to make sure they have a home to go to or anyone to pick them up. Although most hospitals try to, not all do. You'll see some very sad videos on TH-cam - just Google patient dumping.
@@geezelouise3261 If they're medically stable, then the hospital has done their job. When did we get into this stupid mindset that someone has to take care of others. Adults have the right to do as they please within the confines of the law. No one dumps patients.
I am a pharmacy specialist, been headhunted for work even over the years. Worked for the government. I have NEVER left my parents alone in the hospital even if that meant days with minimal sleep............ I've been in hospitals where I'd not trust the staff to treat a stray dog properly (it's an idiom on their ineptitude), never mind a person. I've watched nurses dispose of needles in ER waiting rooms, give wrong medications because they didn't ID the patient, not have half a clue what they are doing or even for that matter what patient they're supposed to be addressing (both parents have been called the WRONG name multiple times). And half the time you go back to the actual ER room - with the beds, etc. - they're yakking about BBQs instead of their jobs.
So incredibly sad!
Jeezuz... that's sad and appalling.
Doesn't a security guard patrol around the hospital and look around and make notes and inquire about people in the parking lot...
Or are they busy watching the view and eating donuts inside where it's warm...
It's difficult to see bodies in a snow drift...
she was probably thrown out into the snow for lack of insurance...happens more often than people think.
It doesn't happen at all. Federal law doesn't allow it. EMTALA...look it up
@@fragtastic4 I KNOW people this has happened to. Suing hospitals is a lot harder that most people think
@@mikeythesquid1427 You don't know shit. It's against the law and no one is being sued for it. Quit lying, liar. Look up EMTALA!
Insurance companies looking for cheaper solutions. RIP ❤
What about the hospital?
Unfortunately my mother didn’t survive yesterday peacefully this been difficult for us and my dad I miss my mother
Condolences. 😢
@ appreciate. We were suppose to make meat ball together
I'm sorry for your loss.
@@sandrataylor8966 thank you I appreciate
@@lisab9541 thanks I appreciate you comment
Luigi is a murderer but corporations are cool cause they don’t breathe like patients…they don’t die either. What can anybody do? We’ll see if there are 12 idiots that convict Luigi…but I think people (no matter what political affiliation) are waking up.
Only 62...What a tragic story. I hope the son gets his TRUTHFUL answers but I just have a feeling they will lie. Hospitals on average are NOT what they used to be. Too many get into the business for the wrong reasons today..Like how often do we see nurses, doctors, orderlies and other hospital and care home staff abuse, kill and steal from patients? I work at a PT in my friend's private practice but before when I did my clinicals and worked at a few rehabs and hospitals as a traveling PT I saw constant things I disliked by staff from all levels. And today SO MANY hate their jobs and even if they don't mean to they end up taking it out on the patients. And in this case I think someone was distracted or cared more about their phone or something and forgot her in the cold. My first guess.
What the son needs to do is go to the PD and ask them to get all video and if they don't jump to it then I'd go to the county Sheriff and if they don't go to the State Troopers.
Nope. Skip going to the officials who will just cover for each other. Lawyer up ASAP.
It may be she was treated AND checked HERSELF OUT. Its called "A.M.A.". "Against Medical Advice". My Mrs is a ret R.N. She says its Not uncommon. Plus unless the Doctors place an individual on a 72 Hour "Psych Hopd"? YOu cannot leg stop them.
😢 how sad
And is why I wouldn't take anybody to that damn hospital. That's a health clinic. Not somewhere you take someone who is really sick
Have fun at Truman.
She must have not had insurance. I do not have insurance. My job is a low paying job. When I get sick I do not get the treatment that I deserve because I don't have insurance. They disregard me, they checked my blood pressure and temperature and will their eyes. In February last year I went to a hospital three times within that same month. I was having trouble breathing. On the last visit they finally x-rated my chest to find out I had pneumonia. But you sure can bet I was billed for all three visits even though I wasn't treated
So SAD. . . May God heal hearts if her friends and family
Hospital have cameras inside and outside There is no mystery! Check the cameras and find out what happened! This should never happen in this day and age! 2025
There are cameras everywhere in that hospital and outside.
Did she have Medical insurance ? If she did was it the kind that this hospital accepts ?
Rest in peace Ms. Fells. My deepest condolences to her family, neighbors and the little kitties. 😥
Way too many unanswered questions. Due to privacy I can see info not being released. She could of went, was treated and released, discharged, left of her own accord, admitted and slept walked. I mention the last one only because I am a sleepwalker and did this on a hospital admission in 76. Early labor that stopped, fell asleep and made it past nurses desk, down the elevator, to the parking lot before a citizen spotted me, she had her husband go tell security. This was in summer so no weather element. No one in labor/delivery knew I was missing. After that spouse never left my side, he had only left to go to cafeteria for food, came back thought I went for some test.
More like patient dumping 😢
Hospitals make RN'S work 12 hour shifts multiple days in a row. Residents work round the clock with little over sight until something goes wrong...then it's their fault even they are basically students. Social workers are under staffed and over worked expected to discharge and deal with every patient and their family crisis. RN'S, SOCIAL WORKERS, THERAPISTS, MEDICAL ASSIATANTS are all under staffed, over worked and under paid. It's a mad house. Meanwhile CEO'S make huge salaries. There are managers knee deep everywhere for everything except actual patient care. Insurance dictates all discharges and families get angry at the discharge social worker/RN due to Insurance barriers. It's wild. Madness really.
I have PTSD from the last years of my career watching the money grab. It is terrifying what medicine has become. Doctors are no longer in charge, AI will replace them.
They probably just turned her away for not having insurance.
I am waiting for the results of the investigation before making conclusions.
Well she was going to be dead after seeing her future medical bill anyways. US hospitals are understaffed, they don't want to pay for more nurses and other professionals and this kind of thing happens. Very sad. Hope she is resting in a better place now.
what do you mean it remains a mystery; there are cameras everywhere in and out the hospital.
We don't know if she was admitted. Let the investigation find the details.
Their legal department is scrambling to cover their butts, and deny any responsibility to avoid legal consequences.
What responsibility does the hospital bear in this?
How can this happen, TV medical services are so inspiring
Needs investigation. Let t
he hospital PROVE they didn't dump her out there.
@eileenplzak3882 Pretty sure the burden of proof is on those accusing the hospital of patient dumping, not the other way around.
There has to be security cameras everywhere so there is some footage of her that is yet to be seen. The hospital is required to be tight-lipped until their legal department says otherwise.
Great neighbors looking out for each other.
She was stable, they needed the bed space and released her...
Probably dumped on the street when her credit card wasn’t valid. 🙄🇨🇦
Sad evil world we're living in.
They made her wait too long and she walked away?
I’m a Paramedic. Patient care and report should have been given to a nurse. Sign to accept that patient. If no one accepted the patient, the ambulance is at fault. If a nurse accepted her, they are at fault. Unless the patient signed out AMA.
Am I the only one that thinks this makes no sense.
This news story generated way more “heat” than “light”. It seemed designed to lead people to jump to the worst conclusions. A simple blurb about her dying in the hospital, and promise to follow up with more information. The endless speculation does nothing to help keeping an informed public.
If negligence is found on the part of the hospital and a wrongful death lawsuit ensues the cost of caring for the cats she fed should be included in the settlement and payed to the people willing to adopt or foster these cats. Shelters are horrible places for cats and adoptions are down due to the cost of caring for them.
Likely another case where they just dump them outside. Happened to me during covid. Made me sit on a curb in the cold to wait for my ride. I could barely walk after having a seizure that they said was drug use. I dont use drugs and a simple test would have proved it.
The hospital likely has to protect medical privacy, and knows whether the woman was admitted/discharged, etc. They can't legally share that information. They might have been able to share that info with her next of kin. Very sad if they discharged her or lost track of her without her being competent enough in the moment to preserve her own life.
Where were her friends & family so she could get home safely
Sad.😢
Not surprised. Hospitals, especially ER staff; have very little regard for patients. You're treated more as an inconvenience than a patient. THIS doesn't even remotely surprise me.
The public will never hear the truth!