Battle of the Bathtubs-Vachss v. MacDonald: RGBIB 417
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2024
- It's a battle between the epitome of sixties era detective novelists-Ross MacDonald's Lew Archer series-and the hardest of the hard-boiled revisionist tougher-than-grime New York street-savvy mean-streeters, Andrew Vachss's Burke series. And perhaps, appropriate to the subject of murder, we ELIMINATE one of these book-batches from our shelves in the soon-to-be-mythically-successful Battle of the Bathtub ELIMINATION ROUND!
In THIS corner: Ross MacDonald's FIND A VICTIM (1954)
and in THAT corner: Andrew Vachss's DOWN IN THE ZERO (1994)
Who will survive? (Well, none of us, but...) - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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I had not heard of Vachss until this very moment, but love Ross Macdonald.
He's worth trying, and Ross is always there for you anyway! s
I've probably read at least ten Vachss novels. He got me into the crime genre. They're both great. But Ross Macdonald, all the way!
Interesting. He is quite absorbing for the most part. Stay safe in the bathtub. s
And shout out to Ross Thomas… his last book,guessing he knew what was coming. Ah Treachery…one of his best! If you haven’t read it…do so Scott!
I loved that one! I wrote a laudatory piece on it and Thomas for the London Review of Books, who refused to run it because they never heard of him. Ah, Assholes! s
@@Scottmbradfield Ah, the treachery of Assholes… and what I loved was Ross’ sardonic, but righteous anger, in exposing these Assholes…right to the very end!
I've read most of the later Macdonald; I think "Galton" is my favorite. That final scene with the bird calling outside is truly haunting.
I enjoyed that one too, though I think of it as fairly early... the late ones like CHILL and UNDERGROUND is where I think he keeps getting better, even his last, THE BLUE HAMMER...
"No more guns for you, Leticia. No more anything."
What's the from?
@@Scottmbradfield The Chill. My favorite Archer novel.
@@tectorgorch8698 That is such a good novel!
@@tectorgorch8698 Yeah, my favorite too... s
I have to go with MacDonald also. Thanks to reading Find a Victim, I discovered Stephen Crane wrote poetry.
That's true! It's a great quote/epigraph! s
Wow, funny how the new show premise got abandoned mid-way! No yellow bath tub: it's now a quarter-ass show!
How did you know my bathtub was yellow? Oh, that bathtub...
Hard-boiled in the bathtub sounds painful. Love MacDonald, never heard of Vachss 'til today though.
I know what you mean. It's hard to stay safe in a simmering bathtub! s
Vachss was the definition of "dark and gritty" in the 80s and 90s. Worth checking out. But he's shocking and graphic to the point of being tiresome. Child abuse is bad; we know! The same way James Ellroy has to constantly remind you there wasn't political correctness in the 1940s. We know!
I prefer the Macdonald … Ross that is… small “d” por favor, but never read Vachss so there’s that…
"...like edit" made me snort.
Hey Scott, I’m late again, sorry. Sorry to hear about Lucky; hope you all can hang in there. I need to read Ross Macdonald, but I have so many Rex Stout’s and Ross Thomas’ to read haha. Btw, have you ever read Gary Indiana? His books aren’t really hard boiled per se, but I think he’s done some really interesting crime novels. Alrighty, take care.
Twenty or thirty years ago someone gave me Indiana's novel RESSENTIMENT to review and I loved it, used to call friends and read passages out loud, and put it on my best of year list, maybe for the London Times? I read something else of his but that's the one that did me. Yeah, it's hard to keep up with a full bathtub don't worry, there are no quizzes!!! Stay safe, Stanton... s
@@Scottmbradfield Yeah that’s a good one, Scott. And thanks lol
How can you not like norman mailer?
Easy
Wanna read em. I don't read shit anymore, I'm always painting or watching BookTube