It took me quite a while but I am back. Had a rough ending of 2024 but... yeah it's time to get going again. So first of all... Still, a happy new year to both of you. I'm so sorry that you haven't heard a word from me since... yeah, almost since Spiel. Seeing our photo at the end of the video makes me incredibilly happy and sad at the same time. Happy because it was still one of my favorite moments ever to meet you and to talk to you. And sad because I most probably won't get the chance to see you again until October. Except for in your videos of course. I've just started to catch up and since I'm down with a cold or something, I think I'll be watching the latest video before this day ends 😂 I really love you guys. Sorry again for not writing or anything.
So lovely to hear from you. Great philosophy to have a fresh start with the new year. Hope things are on the up! Happy new year to you too. We had a great evening playing ito with you at Spiel. It's still in out minds as a game we need to add to the collection from the fun we had there. Hopefully we will see you again this year and in the mean time there is always BGA 😉
The math trade/2nd hand auction is very doable. People are getting better at giving descriptions, their planned position in the room and exchange contact info to find one another. And I discovered last year that if you get people to meet you on Sunday you can find each other surprisingly fast (Friday is the busiest trade day, I think)
@@BoxedMeeples You essentially have two different things that utilize that same space for second hand games. There's the huge math trade, which has its own thread (if you have ever looked at the geeklist for geeklists for Essen that's done every year, it will be one of the geeklist listed, most likely one of the top ones since it will be one of the more active ones), and it usually spins off a leftover math-trade for people who want to try again with games that didn't get traded in the first one. Then there's the 2nd Hand Auction thread, which is for simply buying and selling 2nd hand games. The math trade is all a one big trade. You put in the games you are looking to trade, then when the time comes you put in which games you are interested in the math trade and which of your games you'd be willing to trade for it. Then it generates the most amount of possible trades and people are informed which of their games got traded, which games they will receive and what BGG users to contact for either (as you are most likely receiving games from different people than those you are handing off games to - since that is essentially the whole point of a math trade, person A wants a game person B has, who in term wants a game person C has, etc.) For the 2nd hand action it's much more straight forward. People list the games they are looking to sell, the specifics in terms of version, language, what level of language dependency the game has, condition of specific game. And then they put in a few values. There's the starting bid value, the soft/hard reserve value to indicate what threshold you are willing to sell and if there's wiggle room on that (soft reserve being you may be willing to sell for lower, though you aren't committing to it) and some people also list a BIN- amount (a buy it now price, which guarantees the person who bids that amount the game). I'm personally a big fan of the BIN-option, so much so that I often scroll past listings in the auction that does not have a BIN-price. I don't like the stress of not knowing if I get to buy the game I want, so if I can BIN and it's within a reasonable price range, I don't mind paying a little bit extra to guarantee myself a game I'm looking for. Regardless of which you participate in, you will directly chat with the users you are buying from/selling to/trading with to arrange handover. The majority will use the official math trade location for their handovers as it's much easier to gather everyone in the same place and get it all done (repeat traders are increasingly good at giving descriptions, contact information as well as more specific location within the room they intend to be at), but you are free to make other arrangements, like pick-up at the booth they are working (this year I actually wound up going to the same booth on two different days to pick up games, which was an amusing coincidence). This was my 4th Essen and I have participated on this every time. The first two times I did both the math trade as well as the auction, but the last two I have stuck to the auction as I prefer not to bring games down to Essen myself just in case I have someone backs out of a trade (it was my fault that time as the game wound up at the bottom of my backpack and the weight of the other games wound up poking a hole in the lid - I did offer to lower the price to accommodate for the damage, but unfortunately for me the buyer wasn't interested, so that game took up valuable luggage space for me back home).
@@BoxedMeeples both; but think the fake Meeps just wins overall. I'm a sucker for that type of humour. Could the lanyard be stock they had left over from last year?
Great video - loved the content, chit chat and pacing of the video in particular. You both did a great job. Belatedly subscribed to the channel. Oh, and it doesn't bother me personally whether content creators get games donated or buy their own... but I think it's a lovely touch that you reference that for each one anyway, as full disclosure. And, in such an understated visual way.
@stevemanser. thanks so much. Such kind words are always a boost to us. Welcome to the channel! Hopefully you enjoy some of our other content just as much Did you go to Essen this year? What would you have picked up ?
Nice haul. Ganymede has been on my 'want to play' list and also its "successor" Galileo Project. I would have also bought it if it was 10 euro I hope you enjoy it, and all the other games you've gotten
Thanks, yes we hope it's going to be one of our best bargain pick ups, quite a few friends have now said to us that they really enjoy it, so it sounds like it's it should be a great addition to the collection 🤞
Hope you're not feeling too bad. We came back from Essen with COVID so have been feeling pretty rough since getting home. Barely even been up to playing any of the board games we bought so far.
@James-Sutherland oh no, we have been under the weather too. Ots very exausting all that walking. Hope you're on the mend now though. What were your best pick ups ?
Yeah, it's exhausting. More so than UKGE somehow - seem to be less places to just go and relax for a bit at Essen. I'm looking forward to playing Men Nefer when I feel up to understanding the rules. Also Seti and Unconscious Mind, which we got at the show. We also got the new Tokyo Highway, and have played that, seems really fun and looks great. Be interested to hear what Tea Garden is like, as that's one of the big releases we didn't get. Also Fox, which we decided against, but it does look nice. I'm annoyed I missed Until Proven Guilty - I meant to get it but then completely forgot. I'm a big fan of the Phoenix Wright games too. Definitely want to know more about that.
@James-Sutherland after only going to UK based conventions I was surprised there wasn't areas dedicated to playing games. Of course people were playing demos but for the majority youbhad to book slots in advanced. Late night gaming was also taking place in the hotels but certainly not the scale that it does at UKGE and Airecon. With that many people it's busy everywhere, but there's a beautiful park near by for a bit of an escape if needed
@James-Sutherland Until Proven Guillty I did go straight to. I wanted to make sure I had all the games that may not got a global release while I could. Trying to think about how best to show it off.on the channel, as it's a play once style game and avoiding spoilers in a playthrough would be impossible.
@@BoxedMeeples Tea Gardens for sure, also Ganymede. I was too worried that I had gone over the weight allowance but I had loads left. I could of got it :(
Now, I really regret not looking at Gateway Island while at VRG. looks like a great concept. I really wanna try it for some of my friends and family who are not that big into the hobby.
Excited for the Ironwood video! Thanks so much again for stopping by our booth at Essen :)
I've actually been editing that this morning! It Should be up this week.
@@mindclashgames and the wait is over !
It took me quite a while but I am back. Had a rough ending of 2024 but... yeah it's time to get going again. So first of all... Still, a happy new year to both of you. I'm so sorry that you haven't heard a word from me since... yeah, almost since Spiel.
Seeing our photo at the end of the video makes me incredibilly happy and sad at the same time. Happy because it was still one of my favorite moments ever to meet you and to talk to you. And sad because I most probably won't get the chance to see you again until October.
Except for in your videos of course. I've just started to catch up and since I'm down with a cold or something, I think I'll be watching the latest video before this day ends 😂
I really love you guys. Sorry again for not writing or anything.
So lovely to hear from you. Great philosophy to have a fresh start with the new year. Hope things are on the up! Happy new year to you too.
We had a great evening playing ito with you at Spiel. It's still in out minds as a game we need to add to the collection from the fun we had there.
Hopefully we will see you again this year and in the mean time there is always BGA 😉
The couple that i've met in Essen in Mindlclash Games booth! 😁
@@inj3ction thanks, your photography skills are on display on this! Why tips on the game, did you win?
The math trade/2nd hand auction is very doable. People are getting better at giving descriptions, their planned position in the room and exchange contact info to find one another. And I discovered last year that if you get people to meet you on Sunday you can find each other surprisingly fast (Friday is the busiest trade day, I think)
@mkitten13 we have never looked that closely into it, but did seem very popular. Is it a one for one trade or are games being sold ?
@@BoxedMeeples You essentially have two different things that utilize that same space for second hand games. There's the huge math trade, which has its own thread (if you have ever looked at the geeklist for geeklists for Essen that's done every year, it will be one of the geeklist listed, most likely one of the top ones since it will be one of the more active ones), and it usually spins off a leftover math-trade for people who want to try again with games that didn't get traded in the first one. Then there's the 2nd Hand Auction thread, which is for simply buying and selling 2nd hand games.
The math trade is all a one big trade. You put in the games you are looking to trade, then when the time comes you put in which games you are interested in the math trade and which of your games you'd be willing to trade for it. Then it generates the most amount of possible trades and people are informed which of their games got traded, which games they will receive and what BGG users to contact for either (as you are most likely receiving games from different people than those you are handing off games to - since that is essentially the whole point of a math trade, person A wants a game person B has, who in term wants a game person C has, etc.)
For the 2nd hand action it's much more straight forward. People list the games they are looking to sell, the specifics in terms of version, language, what level of language dependency the game has, condition of specific game. And then they put in a few values. There's the starting bid value, the soft/hard reserve value to indicate what threshold you are willing to sell and if there's wiggle room on that (soft reserve being you may be willing to sell for lower, though you aren't committing to it) and some people also list a BIN- amount (a buy it now price, which guarantees the person who bids that amount the game). I'm personally a big fan of the BIN-option, so much so that I often scroll past listings in the auction that does not have a BIN-price. I don't like the stress of not knowing if I get to buy the game I want, so if I can BIN and it's within a reasonable price range, I don't mind paying a little bit extra to guarantee myself a game I'm looking for.
Regardless of which you participate in, you will directly chat with the users you are buying from/selling to/trading with to arrange handover. The majority will use the official math trade location for their handovers as it's much easier to gather everyone in the same place and get it all done (repeat traders are increasingly good at giving descriptions, contact information as well as more specific location within the room they intend to be at), but you are free to make other arrangements, like pick-up at the booth they are working (this year I actually wound up going to the same booth on two different days to pick up games, which was an amusing coincidence).
This was my 4th Essen and I have participated on this every time. The first two times I did both the math trade as well as the auction, but the last two I have stuck to the auction as I prefer not to bring games down to Essen myself just in case I have someone backs out of a trade (it was my fault that time as the game wound up at the bottom of my backpack and the weight of the other games wound up poking a hole in the lid - I did offer to lower the price to accommodate for the damage, but unfortunately for me the buyer wasn't interested, so that game took up valuable luggage space for me back home).
Highlight of Essen was seeing your Meeps reaction 😂
@@johnsherman2733 when I met fake Meeps? Or my overwhelmingly impressed reaction to the huge loot bag ?
@@BoxedMeeples both; but think the fake Meeps just wins overall. I'm a sucker for that type of humour. Could the lanyard be stock they had left over from last year?
@johnsherman2733 all sorts of shenanigans at Essen! I mean he looked just like the real Meeps!
Great video - loved the content, chit chat and pacing of the video in particular. You both did a great job. Belatedly subscribed to the channel.
Oh, and it doesn't bother me personally whether content creators get games donated or buy their own... but I think it's a lovely touch that you reference that for each one anyway, as full disclosure. And, in such an understated visual way.
@stevemanser. thanks so much. Such kind words are always a boost to us.
Welcome to the channel! Hopefully you enjoy some of our other content just as much
Did you go to Essen this year? What would you have picked up ?
Very excited to play Ironwood with you, and always up for a BGA Game of Altered! or BGA in general :)
Pretty sure you will really like Ironwood. It's definitely staying on our 2 player shelf :)
Invite us to a BGA game 😀
an awesome haul!
Glad you enjoyed! What there really caught your eye. You were missed this year at Essen
Nice haul.
Ganymede has been on my 'want to play' list and also its "successor" Galileo Project. I would have also bought it if it was 10 euro
I hope you enjoy it, and all the other games you've gotten
Thanks, yes we hope it's going to be one of our best bargain pick ups, quite a few friends have now said to us that they really enjoy it, so it sounds like it's it should be a great addition to the collection 🤞
Cool additions
@blueseqperl thanks so much. Which game should be top of our list to play?
Hope you're not feeling too bad. We came back from Essen with COVID so have been feeling pretty rough since getting home. Barely even been up to playing any of the board games we bought so far.
@James-Sutherland oh no, we have been under the weather too. Ots very exausting all that walking. Hope you're on the mend now though.
What were your best pick ups ?
@@James-Sutherland And what game do you think we should prioritise?
Yeah, it's exhausting. More so than UKGE somehow - seem to be less places to just go and relax for a bit at Essen.
I'm looking forward to playing Men Nefer when I feel up to understanding the rules. Also Seti and Unconscious Mind, which we got at the show.
We also got the new Tokyo Highway, and have played that, seems really fun and looks great.
Be interested to hear what Tea Garden is like, as that's one of the big releases we didn't get. Also Fox, which we decided against, but it does look nice.
I'm annoyed I missed Until Proven Guilty - I meant to get it but then completely forgot. I'm a big fan of the Phoenix Wright games too. Definitely want to know more about that.
@James-Sutherland after only going to UK based conventions I was surprised there wasn't areas dedicated to playing games. Of course people were playing demos but for the majority youbhad to book slots in advanced. Late night gaming was also taking place in the hotels but certainly not the scale that it does at UKGE and Airecon. With that many people it's busy everywhere, but there's a beautiful park near by for a bit of an escape if needed
@James-Sutherland Until Proven Guillty I did go straight to. I wanted to make sure I had all the games that may not got a global release while I could. Trying to think about how best to show it off.on the channel, as it's a play once style game and avoiding spoilers in a playthrough would be impossible.
Amazing haul of different and cool looking games
Thanks 😀 any that particularly catch your eye?
@@BoxedMeeples Tea Gardens for sure, also Ganymede. I was too worried that I had gone over the weight allowance but I had loads left. I could of got it :(
@boardgamehappy5982 yes we would have got more if we had packed some suitcase scales !
Now, I really regret not looking at Gateway Island while at VRG. looks like a great concept. I really wanna try it for some of my friends and family who are not that big into the hobby.
glad, that I made it into the video, too. Was great to meet you
You too!
We will talk more about it once we have had a few plays 😀