Enemy brothers - The secrets of Heinz Linge's identification tag - Stalingrad WWII excavations
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- A World War II German identification tag that was dug up on the Stalingrad battlefield is decoded, revealing the name of its original owner, Heinz Linge, who was killed in action in Ukraine in 1941. Further investigations reveal the surprising story of Heinz Linge and his brothers Siegfried and Herbert, whose fates during the war could not have been more different, based on the life choices they made.
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ch möchte Kontakt mit den Angehöriger von der folgenden Soldaten nehmen. Wenn Sie ein Angehöriger sind, schreiben Sie mir bitte ein Email ( jean-loup@gassend.com ):
-Michael Wirth 3.1.1907 Flohs/Floss bei weiden Oberpfalz
-Karl Pudschedl 10.1.1919 Amaliendorf
-Antonius Kirchner 14.6.1912 Essen
-Gross Willy 2.3.1913 Ohrdruf
-Nebe Fritz Johannes 20.4.1923 Niederwiesa
-Wolf Josef 15.12.1922 Prag
-Rasche Hans 9.4.1918 Bützow (Lehrte Hannover)
-Wahsner / Waßner Johannes 26.6.1923 Tins Schlesien
-Wiede Gottfriede 31.5.1917 Pauschwitz
-Erlenbach Martin 6.11.1911
-Pflüger Gerhard 21.5.1908
-Schopig / Schossig Heinz 7.4.1919
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A really interesting video made with precision but with great humanity.
Even now in my country (Italy), but i am sure this is true even in Gernany, there is debate to understsnd how a whole people can go towards autodistruction following the 'ideas' of a single man. This video is the answer: even a 'whole people' is made of single men, and each one of them can make right choices, no matter the environment where they grow.
I am so glad that faith paid so well the choices of this brother but it should be interesting to know the ideas of the dead one about german regime.
This story has so many similarities to my own family in Germany. My grandmother had two brothers who would train to be master watch makers. The oldest brother Paul was sent to Boston, Massachusetts USA to study under a German there. In the early 1930's my great-grandparents sailed to America and told him it was time to come home, take over the family business and his younger brother Johann would study in America, that decision decided their fate. Paul would become a highly decorated Oberfeldwebel in the 13th Panzer Division, captured in Romania in 1944 and die in a Soviet prison camp in Tifflis, Soviet Georgia. Johann who spoke little English got drafted into the U.S. Army and sent to the Pacific for three years and upon his return I've been told you could not tell that he was German, his accent was completely gone. My grandfather disappeared in Konigsberg and Johann brought his parents, his sister, my father and his brothers to America, and the rest as they say... Is history.
Our family always thought that perhaps my grandfather went down on the Gustloff as well. He was a member of the 548 Volksgrenadier division, being in Russia since the first week of the war. Not to be confused with the Volksturm units made of civilians, his unit was made of veterans, and sea cadets. Anyways the Germans were still getting mail out via the Baltic, and we have a letter from him that was dated after the sinking.@@wyomarine6341
at least they actually fought on opposite sides unlike this video where one left..my family also did this in the US revolutionary war 1770s, the war of 1812 and the US civil war families fighting families on both sides..in the end Im here because of them though!
It's interesting how German and American histories often intertwingled. As for me, our ukrainian stories are far more simple. Two brothers of my great-grandmom disappeared without of trace and I don't know much of them.
Я в данный момент живого Кёнигсберга
Кёнигсберг был очень прекрасный город мало От него остался что-то
Exceptional historical research. Thank you for the video. Coming from a family in Austria and also having a young man, my uncle drafted into the Wehrmacht and lost somewhere in Russia/Ukraine..this story brings the personal tragedies home. We have a name and a photograph and the memory of his Mother crying for years afterwards moaning her lost and only son. The tragedy of war we are still seeing being perpetrated today by the monsters in our midst.
I come from Dresden. This story is part of the history of my hometown. We should never forget what can happen. My grandfather fought as a young 20 year old boy on the Eastern Front in a tank. he survived and tells me a lot of impressed stories. I'm so happy to say "all people in Europe are my friends. no more war again!"
The war is raging now……in Ukraine and Russia…..for now
except Russia v. Ukraine. :-(
Outstanding story. Excellent research. Thanks.
Jean, your channel has some of the best videos on TH-cam. Excellent job documenting all sides of this family story.
Thanks a lot, and please share the wealth.
Very kind, and respectful of you for doing that.
Extremely fascinating story. You should take pride in the fact that no one would've ever know about this great story unless you did the work to unearth it.
A bit of chance, half a dogtag, one man, three brothers, several other families touched, 70 years, a toast of Rum. What a tale. And just one tale amongst the millions. You brilliant research certainly brings it home.
Fascinating what can be discovered from a small piece of aluminum,
And somebody stumbled onto the tag as they were digging around
Your toast at the end actually emotionally moved me. 😯😉
Thank you Jean-Loup, another outstanding piece of research, presented with humanity and humility. Well done.
Wow! Never thought there'd be so much history to uncover from such a small corroded zinc item found in the soil of a remote battlefield. Very well researched. You've earned my deepest respect for this. Wasn't the family pleased to hear of your result?
Its aluminum, and I am not sure the family realized so far.
Excellent. Thank you
That is an amazing story and I am so thankful that you shared it with us.
It really was
Great video!! One of the best videos I’ve ever seen on TH-cam. Really nice touch at the end. He deserves a million subscribers for just this vid!! 👍👍👍
Thankyou my friend....Well done...A long dead soldiers Tag has lead us all on an incredible journey.Best wishes from Australia.
Amazing story. Thanks for that. The 'Butterfly effect' really grabbed my attention.
That’s an incredible story started by a tiny piece of metal in the ground. Thank you for your interesting hard work!
Many thanks for Your work!
Three months ago I found the tag from my grandpa while bringing stuff out of the house... he saved it in a box almost 60 years til he died 2003.
Now it's hanging on the mirror in my car!
Hi mate. Good of you to keep his ID tag, but I would put it in a safer and more honored place than your car.
Was he German? What is the unit information on the tag by curiosity?
@@CrocodileTear
Yeah, there could be a safer place, but so he's always with me...
The tag says
Flieger-Ersatz-Bataillon 7
R. Flg. Ers. Batl. /VII plus ID-Number or something...
He served from 1942 til '44 POW in Italy.
@@RubbelDieKatz90 OK, thanks.
Wow, such an amazing story. I was glued to my screen for the entire duration of the video. As I've mentioned before, these stories, in my humble opinion, could almost be books, or a movie. And I guess you contacting the one Brothers family who are in the rum business might not be able to appreciate your story.
They might appreciate it now that the video is out.
Sigfried must of been a terrified young man. A fascinating story. Thank you for sharing it.
Sigfried was what is called today "woke", as in aware, moral, and rational.
Is it just me or isn't that "woke" a derogatory term?
I agree though this is a fascinating story. :)
@@obsidianjane4413lol
@@Nyllsor In nazi Germany they probably would have called him woke or maybe more vicious derogatory names. Only when it's all played out do we see who really understood what time it was.
@@Nyllsor It depends on your perspective. Or rather, the right coopted it as a term of derision.
Wow. That was amazing. So powerful. Completely different life choices made then between the brothers; has an impact on their families today. The toast at the end was so powerful. Great video. Thank you
One of the best pieces of work ever recorded about the German side of WW2. Honest, straightforward and fascinating. You are to be commended. Makes one think, how many more stories such as this are there that will never be told? Just one, discovered by accident, yielding so much. Multiply it by the hundreds of thousands.
crocodile tear, you do these fallen heroes a great service by bringing to light their individual stories. i salute you with the greatest respect from the uk,x...
Amazing work. SIR. Thx for sharing all the great stories..!! Hats off to you
Very moving. Especially at the dedication and toast at the end. You've a good heart Sir.
You hit it out of the park with this on, excellent work.
Great research, always interesting piecing things together, I would like to know more, did you contact the Haiti family? did you find more on Herbert in the waffen-ss, obviously survived the war, sorry if I may have missed it.
Chapeau à vous, Doctor. Une vidéo excéllante, comme d'habitude
The lengths you go to for your videos inspire me. Amazing job
Thank you Jean.. That was a very interesting story and I congratulate you for the hours of hard work you did to bring this completed family story together.
Incredible, amazing story!!! Prost, to all the forgotten of wars, the Linge family and to you sir!
Reminds me of similar stories from the American Civil War. My family was divided by that war. There still was some residual tension as late as the 1950s. Thankfully that is no longer a problem.
Your best video yet! Congrats, and thank you for bringing this compelling story to life.
I really enjoyed this. Great research. The rum at the end is a nice touch lol. Cheers from South Africa
Reminds me. My grandfather fled prewar fascist Italy with his brother but they ended up separating. My grandfather went to michigan and his brother went to Argentina. Those were crazy times.
06:19 Stalingrad must have been a horrible meat grinder. My grandpa served in an infantry regiment in France. Later in the war, his unit was sent to Stalingrad. My grandpa was fluent in English and French which was very uncommon for a German back in the days. Therefore, he, the only one from his unit, stayed on the western front for the rest of the war to work as a translator. In Stalingrad, literally the entire company was wiped out and none of them made it out alive.
But my grandpa survived all due to his language skills. Had he not been able to speak foreign languages , he would have been sent to and killed in Stalingrad like the rest of his comrades.
After the war, he lived a long life, had two sons and seven grandchildren and died as an old man. Sometimes, life is really weird.
Just a big WOW about this story! Best regards from Sweden.
I am always touched by your videos, sir. This one is, thus far, the most moving. You have enough material for a film based on a true story, a story that should be remembered. I mentioned to you previously that the war split my family in Europe; relatives fighting on either side due to conscription and desperation. You gave the men a most respectful nod: one to the man who held to his convictions and left Germany, and one who answered the draft and met his end in Ukraine. When you raised the glass to them, it was the most personal touch I've seen in your videos (I doubt I have seen them all). Bless you, and your efforts.
Wow what a sad fantastic story which brought a tear to my eye,
Well done for piecing it all together,thanks
Fantastic, thanks for sharing this story. As a German, now living luckily in Australia, always asked myself, how the WW2 could happened? And currently we get shown the playbook, now from the left, through the US, how war gets propagated in Germany. History repeats itself
Very, very interesting.
Thank you for the touching "rejoining of the brothers" ending. Nice touch.👍💐
Rejoining the brothers at breakfast time was a bit hard on the oesophagus 😄
Story for a movie. Fascinating.
Do you have Spielberg's adress?
Fantastic video , the end was very tastefully done....cheers 😊😊😊😊
I love old surplus and have collected a bit over the years. But unfortunately most of these pieces we find have lost their stories to time. What you do for the soldiers and artifacts is amazing. Thank you.
Interesting story! I spend 7 years working in Haiti, and the Babancour rum is the quintessential Caribbean, award winning rum. I had no idea this German guy married into the Babancour family.
The Barbancourt Rum is from an earlier branch of the family. Linge's decendents have the Vieux Labbé rum by Berling SA.
They say on some of the websites that this sometimes causes confusion, and indeed for the video I initialy bought a bottle of BArbancourt instead of Vieux Labbé :)
What a wonderful story. It's amazing to account for all this from an id tag.
Amazing story, thanks for sharing your expertise in researching these individuals. Great content . Many thanks. Best wishes from the UK 🇬🇧
Cher Jean Loup, merci pour vos efforts inlassables pour découvrir de tels destins. De nombreuses salutations et un sincère merci de la part de l'Allemagne.
Man some of these stories are worthy a movie.
Suberb research and storytelling. Thank you. It raises a question that has interested me for a long time. One brother, Heinz in this case, is not subjected to continuous propaganda because he goes abroad, to France in this case, and we also know travel broadens the mind (the opposite of being of a 'parochial' mindset). On his return to Germany he can take a more objective view of what he sees going on and is horrified. Meanwhile a brother who was continuously at home and subjected to government propaganda joins the SS. Two opposite ends of the scale. The question that interests me is what makes a person decide that evil policies and actions are not only acceptable but they decide join in? Would Heinz also have believed in the Nazi ideology had he not by chance been spared the Nazi-controlled media? No doubt there are many factors in play, and there are plenty of examples of brothers fighting on different sides even in a civil war, but I always felt that those who condemn the whole German people for the evils of the Nazi era fail to address this question.
Those who condemn all Germans forget that the first victims of nazism were Germans. German Communists, German Jews, etc, etc.
The link to my video about German identification tags "What's your name soldier": th-cam.com/video/d0pOz94Ej1g/w-d-xo.html
People who have an ID tag that they want to get decoded must contact the Bundesarchiv Abteilung PA in Berlin.
Thank you. Much appreciated
I've had a German dog tag (whole) that I got from a former Russian soldier who digs up relics in the Stalingrad area. I've been trying to figure out a way to decipher it for years and perhaps find a way to get it to his family. Merci!
@@Hunter_Nebid Send a letter to the the Bundesarchiv Abteilung PA in Berlin
Fascinating, excellent video sir. Like usual. Thank you for doing what you do and sharing it with everyone. I can't think of a better TH-cam channel.
Couldn't have asked for a better ending to a great video.
Thank you for this great piece of story from WW2 that spanned Germany, France and Haiti.
And Ukraine and Russia.
That’s wild! I lived and worked in Port Au Prince for years , never heard or knew about this and the Rum
Great video! I love hearing stories like this.
I've now watched a few of your videos and his one is by far the most touching. The ending was a great sentiment to the conclusion of his story. Please keep up the great work, so these lost soldiers can once again by identified. 👍
Reality always beat fiction. What an interesting family story. Thanks for posting this!
Great story thanks for sharing the history
I enjoy all your videos but this one was the best so far. Thank you and keep up the good work.
What a fascinating story... so brilliantly researched and presented. Well done 👏
No word can describe your efforts, I am really impressed by the story
Hey jean I'm a huge fan of your channel for bringing such a bright light into really personal historys and picking up all these small things others wouldn't even care about.
It really highlights the cruelsomeness of the war our fathers and grandfathers fought in and how useless it was.
If only the people today would've learned more from history and could live a life in peace.
Encore merci pour cette enquête, passionnante du début jusqu'à la fin !
Absolutely amazing video! Such an interesting story. Crazy what information you can find! Keep up the great work!
Thank you for posting, as always an outstanding story.
what a story, truth is stranger than fiction...
Sehr ergreifendes Schicksal was der ganzen Familie Linge geschah 😢
Danke für die sehr gute Recherche 🤚
The bones of the new soldiers falling on top of the old soldiers. What a great shame.
Great research which really turned into a very fascinating story. Thanks for sharing your work on TH-cam Much appreciated.
I always find those stories interesting, with the same family living in different parts of the world during this time...
My great-great-grandfather left his wife with a newborn child behind in Germany and emigrated to the US in the 20s, where he found a new wife and had children with her. In the WW2 my grandfather and his brother fought on the german side, while their step brothers (who they never met) fought for the US
It just goes to show how nonsensical all these wars are.
This is an awesome big picture story. Thank you for all your work.
Absolutely well done! 👏 Of course, the disaster that befell Dresden by man, ultimately befell Haiti by Mother Nature. I salute you Jean-Loup.
Thanks Jean you give ID tags faces back .... Best Regards B.
Dang right I enjoyed this video!!! Thank you for your hard work.
In the end the history remains (or _is_ ) the best story!
Amazing information, very nice job man!
Tolle Geschichte und investigativ sehr gute Arbeit geleistet.
Danke aus Göttingen/Deutschland.
Thanks! This is a great work!
how different brothers can be, very interesting thank you for your time on all the research and bringing them back together a warming toast to horrible times.
Many thanks for your work. This is what makes it worthwhile.
Thoroughly enjoyed this story...thank you!
Thank you very much for researching this history and then sharing it.
Great Video, Well Done....Thank You !
Always an outstanding video and presentation.
Great video! Like always 😊
That is quite a story. Its amazing how you have tracked down all this information! Its kind of odd as well that he shared his name with Hitlers valet.
Another great job Jean. Sve najbolje brate :)
Speechless...amazing work!
Besten Dank für die Story
Thanks again for you in depth research and for sharing it with us. Kindest regards.
great video!
Wonderful video!
Wow that's a mind blower honestly, cheers!
Excellent !! Thank you for sharing !
Wirklich faszinierendes und ergreifendes Video.
Sehr gut gemacht.
Great report again! Merci!
Incredible story! Thank you
Absolutely incredible story! You have a new subscriber!
Excellent video. I really like your content.