MINI HATZ DIESEL LIVES AGAIN Bomag Plate Compactor 2/2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2020
- Bit of a long video here!
It is time to see if this free plate compactor is any good!
Please check out part 1 if you have not seen it!
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I love that slow, clanky diesel idling sound. A diesel's a diesel, no matter how small.
That thing turned out to be a little sweetheart. Gotta keep my eye open for a little hatz now.
Hi Mike, we used these on site in the UK, well done for getting it running, we ground a spanner down so it would fit better for top bleeding. We also used ear plugs and muffs, and really thick gloves when we used it otherwise you were deaf and had pins and needles in your hands in no time!
I could see artifacts in the video from the camera shaking on the tripod. That little beast was getting it done
first time I encountered a Hatz engine I did not know of its Decompression arrangement, long time ago. thank you for the videos and Memories
Audio is perfect on this one. Great update. It's nice to see that old workhorse back in service rather than scrapped like I'm sure it would have been had it not made it's way to you Mike.
Wow seems wasteful to scrap any air cooled diesel. Around here it's just parted out if the machine it was on is worn out
Hatz also offered a small tube and cap into which the operator could place a cold weather starting wick. You un-screw this tube from the cylinder head area, insert a wick and light it, when it's smoldering, you screw this tube back into the head, and set the decompressor and crank. This 'wick' is designed to be lit with a cigarette lighter, and then when the wick is smoldering it aids in internal cylinder heat to ignite the injected fuel. By the way, the ash from the burnt wick is so fine that it is easily exhausted through the engine's exhaust port/muffler.
On the oil drain plug,.the reason why there is no extension pipe there to drain the oil in a less messy procedure, is because as it is a vibrating compactor that pipe could crack off from that vibration during operation,..and result in total loss of engine oil.
Good to see that you 'saved' that engine Mike,..great video, and I was pleased that there doesn't seem to be any damage caused by the total lack of care that the engine did not receive.
Those are tough and durable engines, but they MUST have care and service as you pointed out.
Hatz diesel engines were the preferred small engine for most of our rental fleet, especially in the compaction equipment machines we rented and sold.
These old engines are bulletproof. Thats why they have been around so long. The EU really loved these engines.
Fukeu
The EU is about to introduce a whole bunch of new emission laws that completely ruins these engines.
Draining the oil - If you leant that engine over the other way you could remove the drain plug and fit an extension pipe then tip it back to drain
I would think you could also hook up a little valve to the extension pipe to make things much simpler and easier to drain the oil next time.
@@ct92404 as long as it doesn't stick too far out, those gets abused in the field. Ripping the little pipe off full throttle wouldn't be good i think :p
@@disarm2k10 Lol true...what a mess!
I love it when engines you've worked on fire up right away like that! :)
Nice! I bought a compactor to get rid of seeds in my driveway. Yours is the only vid that comes close to demonstrating that -- you seemed to want to avoid hurting them! I've tried weedkiller and burning with very limited success, and noticed that where the cars come in the gravel is pretty much weedfree.
But, regarding the engine. I have a Hatz E75 on an ancient dumper (Clowez), which starts by wrapping a cord around the pulley, decompressing, and pulling. Used to start first pull. And run very, very well. There was electrical equipment in place which seemed to have been given up on, and the guy who sold it just was happy to start with the cord. W ell, I was too smart for my own good: took the starter in to be recoiled new battery, etc., etC. €400, got a neighbour (ex-helicopter mechanic, so he said) to mount it. CRAAACK!! He couldn't align the starter. Took it into a heavy machinery guy who kept it FOR A YEAR before telling me it was an impossibility: there just wasn't the housing necessary to take the starter; and the electrical gubbins that was on the machine was not ex-factory but a half-arsed attempt to make it electric start. Hmmmf. Since the gearbox was full -- of water, the previous owner clearly wasn't too keen on maintenance, so I thought I'd give the machine a birthday. How about a new injector nozzle? Yeah, got that sitting in the workshop for another year, getting rusty. I noticed you bleeding the diesel pipe, and I had done that but thought I had done it badly because I thought I should have had a second person to tighten the nut as I turned the engine to get an air bubble-free stream of diesel coming out. Well you did it single-handed, and I thought the stream of diesel wasn't particularly solid (air-free) and tightening down that nut was SLOW because of how awkward the same thing was to get at!
Anyhoo -- thanks for the video! Will go watch part the first and any others you have done.
Bluddy autocorrect! 'Seeds' should be 'weeds'! Am too fatigued/frightened of what I may see to proofread fully. Sorry.
I appreciate your mastery of your trade and your attention to detail. As a retired machinist and tinkerer its very enjoyable to learn from you. Keep up the good work.
ive been working on engines (gassers) since i was about 16. (im 31) ive done all kinds of stuff, rotary, 2 stroke, 4 stroke, all sorts of configurations. but ive never gotten the opportunity to work on any cool diesel stuff (small or large). it always makes me happy to find content where i can learn new stuff. its also got me itching to get something diesel powered in my fleet... lol
Great video, Is there small passage hole on cylinder head that you can screw open. If so it is place for "glow plug", almost like cigarette that you light up and after a while crank engine. Two Stroke oli is also perfect to add in Diesel fuel. Always dump some when filling tank. Todays low sulfur Diesel is very dry.
Cool old compactor. Glad you were able to get the sound issues fixed.
Hey there we go, I can hear yah!
This is way more than I wanted to learn today! However, I'm enjoying it and still watching! Thanks!
Excellent work on the compactor.
Great job and video Mike. Don't care what size they are I love diesel engines those hatz are some good ones, Hope you and yours had a great 4th!
I really enjoy your videos Mike! This seems like a strong unit! ...Newk from Kentucky
Some more awesome from the mechanic!
The mess caused by oil changes like this is exactly why I have an oil change pump to take oil out via the filler or dipstick tube. First time I used it on my van I was amazed how little was left when I actually came to remove the drain plug. If it was whisky it wouldn't have made a decent drink.
Sound is good! I enjoy your videos! Keep them coming!
I like your little hand vise. That's a sweet running little Hatz.
I knew little about Diesel engines before I started watching your videos. I’m fascinated by their entirely mechanical fuel/speed control. Some serious engineers designed that fuel pump and injector system. That was sweet when it started right up. Good job.
Nice fix Mike, that diesel is a nice little runner!
Those Hatz are an interesting little engine. Ball-bearing mains, camshaft that runs at 1/4 engine speed and it's a (fairly) simple procedure to make them run in the opposite direction.
When all else fails adjust the valves!
Hi Mike ,always enjoy your videos I learn allot from them,I'm sure there's a few of us from Australia watching :-)
Nice work Mike , you have it running like new.
Great bring-back! Sound was good .
I have found the best way to test vibrating plate compacters is to get an old car or truck tyre & put the vibeplate in it as it does not go anywhere & you can do the adjustments needed while it won’t shake the daylights all over the place & keep the noise down also as they really should not be used on hard compacted surfaces, anyway that’s the way l do it on our rental units here in Australia, your videos are great to watch, good work, cheers!
Great video mike. You channel and content is great. Keep up the great videos.
Great job Mike , She runs like new man !! ENJOYED..
Hatz off to you..
Good job
Had that motor on a Miller welder...loud kaknocker..
Deafining.
Used very little Diesil.
Nice! That thing runs pretty darn well!
Nice old machine Mike . Great fix :)
These vids are great. Thanks. ..... i like to see old iron being saved.
Great series Mike.
I have 2x 10hp Hatz engines for water pumps, the air filters on mine look exactly the same and are an oil bath filter, yours looks the same but I didn’t notce anything about that... Good job with it, sounds really good....
I'm looking forward to the blooper reel. Sound was good, just like that little engine.
Nice job,the video is fine on my end .that hatz sure runs sweet .you have a new tool !!!!
Run it off of french fry oil and make your whole neighborhood smell like a Long John Silver's lol
Very cool Mike. The sound was fine on this one. I was unlucky enough to often run one of these when I worked construction,, they were gas powered though.
I saw a huge problem that you need to address.... Its about those white chicken legs. Lol
Great video and commentary. Fun to watch, and now I want one.
👍👍👍👍😷👏🏻🇺🇸
what a fantastic old work horse
I would like to make a comment on the oil sump drain: given that the machine spends its life vibrating, an extension for the oil drain would stick out, say 6", and that length, however long, would shake violently, just sticking out in space. I think it would snap off in short order. As messy as the draining is, an extension just wouldn't work IMHO.
And every Briggs engine i've seen has the oil drain placed the same (stupid)
Awesome video and series, glad I subscribed.
Heij
I can tell You who put the oil plug there: this engine was used in a variety of applications, my dad had such in an old septic pump. So, to keep the engine as versatile as it goes the engineers made the oil sump flat and to keep the engine small the oil drain plug had to be there where You complained. To be fair, my dad had a Toro lawnmower with a briggs and Stratton engine and the same problem: The drain plug was unusable until he made a little channel to funnel away the oil. So, who´s to blame? The customer ;)
By the way, it is very pleasant watching an American fixing German stuff and that plate is as German as it gets. Bomag is the customer who bought Hatz engines to put in their tools, Bomag was fairly large in the 50´s to 70´s, i know about Bomag loaders- huge and heavy with Hanomag or Deutz diesels. Old girls with grunt :) Like Your ´59 Cat- nice vid ;)
This engine is older than us together and because of the plug it might be still factory. I´d save that!
Greetings from Germany, Stay safe
Enjoy all your fixes! If memory serves, the gear box for the shaker has oil, too. On some it was sae20 ndo. Others had a plug you took out and pumped special grease in until full.
10:00 that's the heat shield for cooling the nozzle of the injector, very important to change it for a new one each time you get the injector off, if not change, it will deform the nozzle and pintle cause by the excessive heat. Bosch type, like old Benz, Volk, DNOSD ***
It only needed a bit of love. Edit to add: the big water tank is for when laying tarmac and compacting it.. I've just done a petrol Wacker myself with the same result.. Thanks for all your video's..
Ah Ha you got it up and running. Add some gravel to your drive and pack it down like a professional job. Little engine sounds great. Excellent fix. Thanks for the video. Stay safe.
A super video and a great save on a freebee!
A "Whacky-Packy" seems to work better with damp material and a whole lot less dust.
Could the dancing rocker arms be for rotating the valves?
You may be able to predict the 0.040" decompression setting by using the thread pitch. Touch the flat and unscrew the pin the predicted number of degrees.
Some aluminum foil can be shaped to direct oil where you want it to go when changing.
Another excellent film.. I have a 1950s? Bomag twin 65 with what looks like the same engine, but the cooling air is sucked from the top of the cylinder and exhausted round the flywheel.
To get 40 tho clearance measure how much one turn is on screw,bottom screw then back off the correct turns
The filter material looks like the moss stuff that hangs from trees in the south.
It might be. Ive seen it in advritisments for some engines but I can't remember what they called it.
I thought the same exact thing - it looks exactly like Spanish moss! Much more durable, though.
Great job Mike thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺👀
Mike THE SOUND!! Can't hear ya!!! Nah jk.... Enjoying the videos
I have used plate compactor like this in many hours on my job many years agoo nice engine
Good job! Great video as usual!
THANKS FOR RE-DOING VIDEO WITH SOUND, GREAT VIDEO. THANKS.
As long as you keep the maitence up it will out live you, it also needs to be covered or stored indoors.
Echoing others here, snag yourself up a form-a-funnel.
They may not have put a pipe extension on for fear of vibrations breaking it off. A hose extension may be a decent idea though, if you secure the loose end.
This was very interesting Mike. Maybe I missed it but did you decide whether you would have a part 2 of the big parts washer? Keep up the great videos.
Just a hint when draining oil when the drain is like that. Cut down an oil jug or water bottle and create a funnel to channel the oil to the side. I am sure they did not extent it to keep a pipe from breaking of from the vibration. Thanks for another nice video.
starts right up NICE
the best way to set the valve adjustments on a small engine is to turn the engine until one valve is open and the other one closed because having one of the valves open takes the full tension off of the valve your adjusting
9:20 "Nothing to see here, still got 9 fingers left"
Great vid, good sound
quality.
Sounds great but I hope you know the honey do list just grew lol , good job
Who ever had the great idea of putting that gravel compactor out to pasture probably didn't have have a Mike, Roadking or a Dirt Bike around to put back into service. What a dirty rotten shame. LOVE, PEACE AND SOUL! Marry Christmas guys🎄🎁🍺🍖
I pretty much figured when it cracked the injector when you turned it over, it would start on the first round. You took care of compression and fuel before you wasted time and energy cranking for no reason.😁 I think that little diesel would be pretty cool on a little scooter of some sort, instead of wasting away on that blasted compactor (unless you really, really need a compactor!) 3200 rpm is probably as fast as you'd want to run it though, so you'd have to gear it accordingly. Heck you've already got a centrifugal clutch.. just add an appropriate sprocket and away you go!😉👍
It runs really well but they do need regular oil changes to have a long working life. Also some of the dust issues can be helped if the water tank isn't holed (due to corrosion) and pathways for the flow are not blocked it dribbles water down onto whatever substance or material you are trying to wacker down solid. The hardest part of using one is holding it back as they all walk away from you!
misting with garden hose works well for anything without** water tank
When you come across oil drains like that. Take a piece of plastic or cardboard and put a small crease in it so it will drain right out without the mess.
Neat on that compression release, I’ve got to flip them manually on my old Lister... Still need to find something to do with that engine, SR2 I think is the model.
Good unit! Nice to get it running, maybe someone will paint and fully restore it.
Well done, like that runs great, still lot's life left
That compactor must have come from down south as it's air filter looked to be full of spanish moss 😉👍👍🇺🇸
I have been mixin two stroke oil on the fuel on all my trucks and skid steers, that is on Cats 3406E, 12.7 series 60 and big cams Cummins. for more than 20 years.
Just watching from the UK looks solid. My thoughts with the draining plug would be to extend it with a threaded end pipe, if you think that might help let me know.
I also have watched a number of your videos and see you have quite a collection of generator's, I also have a number of generator's mostly good old Lister engine's, still well engineered for they're day plus the alternators were made by Brush.
Lister engine's and the alternators combine with hawker siddeley back in the day I thinks wood be 1950 to 1986 I think Lister folded in 1987 or was be for all interesting stuff you have so much knowledge keep it up 👍
changing oil it easy, just tip side up, remove plug and replace with a pipe or hose then tilt side down and drain
or I was thinking a little metal trough
Yeah he wasn't as clever as the the designers, when they made it they said "Some dumkopf will not use ze oil drain pipen-extendergerten, and will cover de machiner mit oel har har har"
@@stevemorris3710 hahahahahaha
I have similar problem with walk behind mower with Briggs and Stratton Vanguard engine. Drain plug is 6” from edge of frame. I just fashion a trough with heavy duty aluminum foil. Works well.
Yeah, the audio left something to be desired on the last one. However, I do appreciate your doing these videos and your attention to detail and showing us all of that. Good work.
One of the best things to add to diesel is 2 stroke oil. It helps lubricity and doesn't leave ash depots like motor oil does when burnt.
There is a analysis of all kinds of different diesel additives out there on the internet and Walmart tcw3 2 stoke was one of the best. Marvel's was one of the worst for lubricity mixed in diesel fuel.
It was the only two stroke oil used in the test so I'm sure there's even better oils. On expensive things I use Amsoil synthetic 2-stroke.
I often add a little 2-stroke oil to my older gas engines fuel just for a little valve & cylinder lubrication since gasoline has no lubricity anymore
Yes- Walmart tcw3 2 stroke is the stuff to use👍
Considering the harsh environment of its job and an obvious lack of care, you have it running and sounding new! Just needed some TLC
Thanks Mike! Regardless of what it is, I love to see old iron run again , especially if it's next stop was the scrap yard! Is that a hydraulic oil tank up front or water to keep dust down or???
I think that's what the other tank is for, the yellow one.
you'll have to bend a feeler gauge just for the exhaust release. that's where multiple sets are nice take one set or more apart and use just for things like that
** i like cheap sets to bend up and abuse, you can also cut the width down and re-radius, BUT be sure to "mic" them for accuracy before using and after any torture lol
Mike,If you want to go fishing this is the machine to have.Earth worms absolutely hate the vibrations and will come to the surface to escape.Ken
I love the way it is crank start batteries are such a pain i wish more stuff was like that and not pull strings those are the worst
Nice Video and well explained!
Btw: the german "A" in "Hatz" and "Bomag" sounds sounds like the english "U" in "cut" or "nut"
And the "O" in "Bomag" sounds more like the "O" in "bore"
Good job mike. I use to have a bmw D7 marine diesel engine that looks exactly the same as the Hatz engine but had trouble with starting it for the first time. When i crank the engine over as if I would start it it just blows white smoke out of the exhaust that's al. Tried a heat gun in the intake, nothing. Tried starting fluid, nothing. At the end of the day i just gave the engine away.
Happy engine fir sure. Where did you get yoyr tach from
Great work
Another great interesting video. Keep em coming! Those compactors will really give you a workout, and then lifting them in and out of a truck is a job in it's-self. Did you mention the HP on that engine? I'm not a fan of that air filter it came with, I'd change it to something that would filter better.
We have always a small digger or loader at hand.
For the diesel engine "Hatz ES75-171J", is there a complete overhaul video?
How to completely rebuild it?
Where can I find parts for it?
Maybe you can make a video about it?
Do you know what that tool you used to hold the stops to weld/grind them is called? I thought it was a "toe clamp" but it's not. Would really prefer that to my jank vice grip solutions. :)
Hey Mike, what is that tool called your using to check rpm? Any idea where I could get one?
Price was right for something you need, nice rehab, get some shock absorbing grips
Nice job.