Thanks for this, it was an interesting bit of info! I really enjoy these analyses of the text when it comes to seeming contradictions and like inquiries. Always glad to hear from you!
@blindvision4703 very simple. There is a verse in the book of job that speaks on how God sent the flood to destroy the world. It seems he lived some years after the flood but the most important aspect was when it was recorded in the Bible that "there is no man on earth as righteous as job". So this singular verse alone disqualify the idea that job lived on the same time line with Abraham because Abraham was called a friend of God
@GenZInquisitor With all due respect, Isaac and Ishmael came and buried their father Abraham after he had lived 175 years, and he had Isaac at 100. And Jacob and Esau were forty when Jacob stole Esau's blessing, and I believe Isaac was a hundred at that time, making him sixty when the twins were born. By that math, Jacob and Esau would have been only about fifteen when Abraham died, long before either of them had any children. So I see no reason why Job couldn't have been set after the time of Abraham. Some even say that Moses wrote it down.
Job from Uz a CANNAN Provence in Northern Palestine... Job is NOT of the bloodline of Abraham but is the husband of the only only daughter of Jacob. Job is the Palestinian in-law and not blood family to Jacob or Esau except through the children Job and Dinah Rajab had together the last of their kids named Hind Rajab killed by the state of Israel
There is no biblical term “arabs”. The concept did not exist in Biblical Hebrew. Job was not a Jew either. He was a contemporary of Abraham. He knows the God of Israel. However his ethnicity is not relevant to story in any event.
Musaddiqul Haque, to my knowledge there is nothing in western Bibles saying Arabs descend from Ishmael. That said, at the end of the 20th chapter of the Ge'ez text of Jubilees (which is part of the Ethiopian canon), it is stated that Ishmael’s sons ተደመሩ (tadamaru), i.e. mixed, and were called ᶜarab (ዐረብ) [a point of interest to me because of the Hebrew wordplay there].
Ishmeelites are partial descendants of egyptian lineage as their matriarch was an egyptian woman. Hagar, herself was an egyptian woman. She chose an egyptian woman as wife for Ishmael. They were nomads and lived in the wilderness. The arab people in Saudi area are descendants of Abraham and Keturah. ie: Sheba and Dedan. Joseph was married to an egyptian woman thus, Manessah and Ephraim ( and all other siblings) are israelites and egyptian mixed. However, only Manessah and Ephraim were given the tribal birthright of being israelites.
Thanks for this, it was an interesting bit of info! I really enjoy these analyses of the text when it comes to seeming contradictions and like inquiries. Always glad to hear from you!
Job existed before Abraham was born
Hello. Out of curiosity, where do you get that idea?
@@blindvision4703 Genesis 10:29
@blindvision4703 very simple. There is a verse in the book of job that speaks on how God sent the flood to destroy the world. It seems he lived some years after the flood but the most important aspect was when it was recorded in the Bible that "there is no man on earth as righteous as job". So this singular verse alone disqualify the idea that job lived on the same time line with Abraham because Abraham was called a friend of God
@GenZInquisitor With all due respect, Isaac and Ishmael came and buried their father Abraham after he had lived 175 years, and he had Isaac at 100. And Jacob and Esau were forty when Jacob stole Esau's blessing, and I believe Isaac was a hundred at that time, making him sixty when the twins were born. By that math, Jacob and Esau would have been only about fifteen when Abraham died, long before either of them had any children. So I see no reason why Job couldn't have been set after the time of Abraham. Some even say that Moses wrote it down.
@@blindvision4703 i answered this question, but my comment is gone. Did someone delete it?
Job from Uz a CANNAN Provence in Northern Palestine... Job is NOT of the bloodline of Abraham but is the husband of the only only daughter of Jacob. Job is the Palestinian in-law and not blood family to Jacob or Esau except through the children Job and Dinah Rajab had together the last of their kids named Hind Rajab killed by the state of Israel
I saw some website saying that the Bible never says that the Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael but they’re two different groups
There is no biblical term “arabs”. The concept did not exist in Biblical Hebrew. Job was not a Jew either. He was a contemporary of Abraham. He knows the God of Israel. However his ethnicity is not relevant to story in any event.
Musaddiqul Haque, to my knowledge there is nothing in western Bibles saying Arabs descend from Ishmael.
That said, at the end of the 20th chapter of the Ge'ez text of Jubilees (which is part of the Ethiopian canon), it is stated that Ishmael’s sons ተደመሩ (tadamaru), i.e. mixed, and were called ᶜarab (ዐረብ) [a point of interest to me because of the Hebrew wordplay there].
@@Tdizzle7775 The words _ᶜArab_ (ערב) and _ᶜArabi_ (ערבי) are part of Biblical Hebrew.
That's because Arabs don't descend from Ishmael. The idea that Arabs descend from Ishmael started after the rise of Islam.
Ishmeelites are partial descendants of egyptian lineage as their matriarch was an egyptian woman. Hagar, herself was an egyptian woman. She chose an egyptian woman as wife for Ishmael. They were nomads and lived in the wilderness.
The arab people in Saudi area are descendants of Abraham and Keturah. ie: Sheba and Dedan.
Joseph was married to an egyptian woman thus, Manessah and Ephraim ( and all other siblings) are israelites and egyptian mixed. However, only Manessah and Ephraim were given the tribal birthright of being israelites.
@@Olivetreedisciples3887 Lineage is from the father