Awesome Just curious with this car really hang with GTO’s.. I never got to drive one of these but I got to drive a GTO and if it does it go that fast that’s pretty impressive.
I've always liked all of AMCs special vehicles, but for me, it's always been the Javelin. Because you must have a place for your dogs to ride. The machine is also dog friendly, and hits all the right buttons for me, but there aren't enough of them around. I know where there are 4 really nice Javelins within 25 miles of me.
The subdivision I grew up in was across the highway from an AMC dealership. I remember these cars well. You are reminding me each week how much the back seats of coupes sucked. Scenario #1: I would choose the Rebel for size and looks. One of my friends' sisters had a Javelin - got it brand new for graduation from high school. Many days it wouldn't even start. Within a year, her dad got her a Mustang. I don't know what was wrong with it. I always thought AMC cars were good cars, but that Javelin is still joked about 53 years later. Scenario #2: I would choose the Mustang. Mustang is just the most awesome pony car ever IMHO. In 1970, my dad took me to the Dodge dealership (also across the highway from my subdivision ... along with the Lincoln-Mercury and AMC dealerships) and I got several brochures. I pulled the pages out and hung that purple Challenger on my bedroom wall. Stayed up there for about 10 years I reckon. One of my neighbors down the street actually had a purple 1970 Challenger. I still check 'em out at every car show ... but alas, I've long since become very disenchanted with Mopars. Give me Mustangs and Cougars and Torinos and Montegos. As always Jay, I love your channel. Each new post is the highlight of that day.
I show what the backseats are like because you never know who wants to buy these cars to use them.. I use mine =) great choices Glad you dig this channel
Back many years ago I dated a young lady while stationed in New Jersey. She had a Rebel but with the six cylinder engine. Even as a six banger that car really drove and handled extremely well. If memory serves me correctly, her car was a gold color and not the red, while and blue of the standard Rebel.
Back in the day they got no respect, When they needed customers where was everyone? Wish we still had them. I owned a 1968 Rambler American, A 1975 AMC Hornet, and a 1977 AMC Matador, my father in law owned a 1972 AMC Matador we loved them all and would own one today if they were still in business.
AMC got the shaft because nothing could be better than a Corvette I mean it kind of sort of still like that.. or GM nothing could be better than GM I mean realistically Chrysler never got the press they should’ve gotten just like Ford.. motor tend has been in bed with GM from the get go
@@What.its.like. They simply never would have been able to survive for the following reasons 1) Production inefficiencies. Build bodies in Milwaukee or the Lakefront facilities. Then haul them by truck to the Main Plant for final assembly. Then having to truck to the rail shipping yard. 2) Labor costs. Big Three labor costs without the Big Three profit potential. 3) Government regulations. Between safety and emissions developing a new vehicle or simply complying with new regulations was getting more expensive every year. 4) More production inefficiencies. Main Plant in Kenosha was a complex of often older buildings from the 20s, 30s and 40s. The newest building was the Press Room. Built in the 1950s*. The oldest dated to when the bicycle company was there. Aging equipment. The older it gets the more wear and tear. The more maintenance and repair it needs. 5) Aging powerplants. Modern engines are not cheap to develop. Nor are the machining lines cheap. A new engine line today can cost 500M easy. 6) Poor transportation access. At least in the Wisconsin facilities. *Aside from the Bramelea facility in Canada only one AMC factory building still stands. Building 45 in Kenosha. Only because Chrysler sold it off in the late 80s. There may be a few scattered parts facilities around. I am talking about the vehicle production facilities.
Love Mopars and AMC’s, they really went out of their way to be different. I own both brands in my workshop. I’ve found at car shows the Mopar and AMC guys are kindred spirits and we share our stories, ideas and beers. AMC engineers did a lot with a little, I wish AMC got into the muscle car wars earlier than they did.
there is a rambler rebel club out there, glad to hear you talk about the 57 rebel, most people dont know anything about it. in the early 60s a guy in burbank ca where i lived at the time had one.
The Rebel Machine was based on AMC's new Matador line. The Rebel was traditionally the sporty edition of the mid-size line. Similar to the Chevelle SS. They so-called full-size line, although basically the same car as the Matador with a different grille and trim, was the Ambassador line. The compact line was the American with the Gremlins considered sub-compact and the Javelin/AMX line was their 'pony-car'. The B-W automatics were known to be power robbing. AMC wisely opted to start using Chrysler's TorqueFlite later, giving similar performance(and often better because people didn't know how to speed-shift properly) compared to the 4-speed. The h.p. 390 could also be had in the Javelin/AMX, and in those days, you could get all the necessary parts you need to convert a 390, across the parts counter. AMC sold what they called "Go-Packs" and many were installed by the AMC dealers. The Matador line became a favorite of police departments. Ever seen the old TV show "ADAM 12"? It was all based on pricing and not the the Matadors were any better than the Chevy's or Mopars.
I love watching your videos because I almost always learn something new. I never knew that this was a one off 390, different from the standard 390 offered. I will never understand how AMC never had the impact it should've with their offerings. The Javelins and AMXs were rolling pieces of art, and almost any model offered you could go from bargain basement economical transportation to beast mode depending on options chosen. My Grampa had a '74 Hornet with a gas sipping 232 that had a surprising amount of ooomph, and my Mom had a '74 gremlin with a 304 that was the fastest car she or I ever drove until her Daytona Turbo. Both you cold fix in the driveway with a standard set of Craftsman tools, no "specialized" tools needed (looking at you, FoMoCo... lol). Keep up the great work, Jay... it truly is appreciated!
Awesome glad you dig the channel sorry for the late response on vacation and drove all day yesterday I want to drive a car with a 232 I’ve heard those engines are bullet proof Thank you so much for sharing the memories =)
@@What.its.like. They ARE bulletproof. In the late 80's we had an American 4dr with a bad trans that we were going to sell for scrap, which at the time was it's highest value; nobody wanted them back then. Just for fun we decided to have a few beers and watch the motor blow. Start it up, concrete block on the pedal, engine screaming for 12 minutes- nothing happened till it ran out of gas. Grab the lawnmower can and tried for maybe 5 minutes more. Darn thing wouldn't even overheat! Can't remember for sure but IIRC we got $40 for it and only had $15 in it so it paid for the beer and our time. Sad to think about all the cars we scrapped back then never knowing how valuable they'd become now.
Gotta go with the Challenger. Really liked this episode, great car. Really unique. My grand parents lived down the street from the AMC plant in MKE, my uncle literally was the guy that shut of the power when the plant closed for the last day. Nothing ever beats a GTO. I will take a Judge over any car in the world, ever. Great episode.
Awesome glad you dig this video.. I drove a 70 challenger last year the clutch was hard to push down very heavy clutch and it was spring loaded never got why that was a thing hard car to hook up.. I also drove a judge and that car the gas pedal and clutch were super light but hurst shifter was notchy... I have yet to drive anything amc (aside from cross country wagons )
Mechanic I use to know back in the day. Had a friend that had one. Mechanic swore it was one of the only cars he knew of, and rode in that would break the tires loose at 70 mph.
The mechanic was a street racer, all his friends were racers. None of these cars were anywhere near stock. Running on tires from the late 70's and running on race gas. Him being a good friend as well as my mechanic on my K code 289 that made over 350 h.p.(not bad for a daily driver in 1978). I'll take his word for it. Don't know what a hemi will do. My 68 Barracuda had a 340 High Performance in it or that's what the breather said.
That is a bad a** looking machine !! I don't think I've ever seen one in person, but it was awesome seeing it close up on here! I love the color scheme, and the interior, man it looks comfy too! I would definitely choose this beautiful machine! Cool video 😎
Question 1: AMX, my friend in high school had one. Yellow. Very nimble that made it faster. A great looking car I thought. Question 2: Challenger. Love the car. I had a few friends in high school with those.
Couple of corrections Turn signals or turn indicators... turn signal indicators are in the dashboard or on the fender tips facing the driver By 1968 those were side marker lights were required not refectors
AMC was ahead of its time with the 327 engine in 1957. It had the same bore and stroke as GM's small block Chevrolet 327 but GM's wasn't offered until 1962. The 1970 390 was a one year only engine which used the tall deck block like the 304 and 360. The next year it got stroked to 401 cubic inches.
Vastly underrated company amc was.. they could have gone so far they had the right people running the company, in an alternate reality John DeLorean is the head of Amc can you imagine how different things could’ve been
Super underrated car I haven’t seen one in the wild for a while this is the very first machine that I’ve seen probably in 10 years everybody’s been asking for it they are so hard to find.. glad you dig this video =)
Thanks for this video. These cars are definitely overlooked and it's a treat to see one. My uncle drove a '67 Rebel for a brief period of time almost fifty years ago but he never said anything about it. Anyway, my first choice would be the AMX. I would probably go for the Mustang in the second scenario.
Hello my good buddy I remember those cars especially the gremlins and ambassadors etc.. you sure Don't see none of them anymore but my neighbor has a AMC eagle station wagon he is just letting it rot down..good to see all the uploads..I don't know if you called I've been home all day and I haven't heard it ring it's been raining off and on and my service is poor...you sure have a awesome voice, yes sir my neighbor out the road has a 4 door rambler somewhere in the model but some cut it down the middle years ago and it got pushed over the embankment I don't know if it's still there or not.
I’m making it a point to cover some more AMC stuff that’s underrated =) matador is on the list of cars to look for.. They used to be everywhere I haven’t seen one in years
Hi Justin, The Rambler Rebel Machine was a outstanding high performance automobile that was not recognized by car buffs at the time. It would give a Pontiac GTO or a Chevelle SS a run for it's money. It was a "High Performance Mid-Size", or "Mid-Size Muscle" you might say. All American Motors cars "Am" where titled as "Rambler" at that time, the "AMC" trademark was not until later. Notice the small "Am" badge in the center just below the rear glass. That was American Motors trademark long before AMC. Please reply. Dave...
AMX, Challenger All of the AMC muscle cars were highly underrated. As was AMC in general. I once owned 72 Matador sedan. Straight 6 that had a bad rear seal. Leaked like crazy but was otherwise totally reliable. A decent solid car.
I have to respectfully request that you reconsider your test subject for the glovebox. That camera is large & heavy & could easily break the glovebox of many vehicles being that they're usually very old with some being made out of cardboard like materials that dry & would rip away from their mounting points & or doors & hinges. So I suggest, how about gloves? Maybe a puffy winter set of gloves which would take space without the weight & risk of damage. It's just many times I cringe when you attempt jamming that unreasonably sized object that nearly no one would try to place in their glovebox, if it does fit like in some cars it would surely drop down onto the floor while driving down a bumpy street.🤔 Great video & even greater car!
It’s more or less the show what you can store it in the glove box while your car is unlocked at the car show if you have a purse that size it would fit some of these cars are a pain to walk especially ones before 1965. The ones being a pain to lock as in they only lock on the passenger side meaning you have to escape or exit the passenger side door in which to lock them.
Just repaired the box in my 70 Eldorado. It was only hinged with plastic tabs. Super glued them back and hope for the best. Any bolts would show through the front.
1936 production figure was sourced from AMC; 2326 figure was sourced from Hurst. The book "The Hurst Heritage" attributes the design of the hood scoop to Hurst. A similar style is found on the 1971 Hurst Jeep Commando - only 100 made. Tach was sourced from AC - same as Buick GSX. Ram-air actuator and flapper are fomoco. Many sources cite the first 1000 units as being RWB, but VIN data shows solid color cars were also produced early in their manufacture. 1/4 mile time was slightly faster than a 383 Roadrunner. Search "rebel machine burnout" to see a relatively stock Machine light the tires.
There's local guy who has one of these. There are also 2 locals with the S/C scramblers. Big AMC following here in Joisey! For your choices today, I'd take an AMX, and the "Machine" The Challenger is cool, and the Mustang is nice, but they are out there no matter where you turn. A vintage AMC? Sure, sign me up. I'll park it next to my Buick!
Hi Jay!: An interesting machine (no pun intended)! Leave it to AMC to make a performance car from the MATADOR! Would be fun to drive that one and see how it goes. The mid-year Corvettes all had the vertical radio, also, Personally I like the body style of the AMX and Javelin a little better, so I guess I would have to take the AMX in WYR#1. For #2, even though I LOVE the early Dodge Challenger's design, would have to go with the 'Stang. Those small block Ford engines seem to run forever!
I had a 74 AMC Hornet Hatchback ,My 1st Car,That Was a small car for that time (84),had V8 in it and when you stomped on it would Fish tail and screech the tires,Powerful car for that time
The Javelin. Such a winner in the Sports Car racing series back then and a favorite of the late, Mark Donahue and car owner-operator, Roger Penske. Torque again...always back then Torque...the pulling power (?) of any car and truck. "Mississippi Queen" by Mudd (1970), I think, was the tune.
A perk of living in Wisconsin is you still see a large amount of AMCs. Rebel Machines can be seen at muscle shows and Eagles as well as hornets and AMXs are still common here
Awesome thank you so much for sharing that with me I got to get up there one day I haven’t been west of Indiana aside from going to Nevada Las Vegas and California
only seen 1 in my lifetime and it was only on the road for a few years. kid who owned it blew engine and many years later i found it in a local junk yard
I had a rebel in high school it was a 1960 327 3speed od about a 15.5 second 1/4 mile. would do 130 mph. presently have a 59 rambler with a 327 it fails quick. only has 492k miles on it.
Not a bad looking car. While the styling was a bit generic in some ways, it wasn't extreme. To me, this car, without the red, white, and blue paint scheme, could be a sleeper. It almost looks like something your great aunt would drive to the local church pot luck - or underground bingo game.
Totally agree... I personally never loved the red white and blue scheme but looks great in person and it’s one of those cars that you know what it is based on graphics and paint kinda like the bandit car
I looked at a rebel machine when I was considering my first car. In my opinion this is a car that looks better in photos than in person, styling wise. Still a very cool muscle car but definitely not for me. I'd take the AMX over a Rebel or Javelin.
Awesome mean machine. I've never seen one before At first glance I thought it was a Coronet. I prefer the Javelin, such a fine design, and the Challenger, so super cool PS that couldn't be 19000 original miles, could it? Thanks Jay, top show again
Mississippi Queen - Mountain. Very good review on a car that carries a lot of mystique. That car is in impeccable condition. The odometer read 19k & change. Can that be original??
Yeah buddy that’s the name of the song and band =) Super interesting overlooked cars is what we do.. with the Caliber of collector this guy was I’m sure that those were original miles that car was like a brand new car he had a Lotta other cool stuff there I’d really like to go back one day
.....thank-you for the vid, I appreciate your efforts and share your passion for cars.....however it is odd that you don't compare it to the '70 Chevelle SS, the '70 Torino Cobra, and the "70 Plymouth Roadrunner rather than the Mustang or Challenger.....and though the Machine is a very rare and collectible vehicle, it would be last on my list compared to at least a dozen 1970 model sporty/performance cars....
Had a gremlin x 304 ,fun car and plenty tough. I have heard of a service package offered by AMC dealers for this car or maybe others . It cost 500 bucks and if installed the car would run twelves. Any truth to this? I am interested in this legendary service package , think it's a cool story if true.
Challenger, Mach 1, and no Rebel at all. I love pretty classic cars but the Rebel body reeks of cheap with all the gaps, bolt-ons and the hood scoop looks like it was purchased at Pep Boys. Heh, it's going to be challenging to stump an open audience with Classic Rock songs. That's Mississippi Queen by Mountain with Corky Laing. :)
I did but it was early on, I want to cover 67 I saw 67 for the very first time the other day but he was driving the opposite way and which I was driving and it would’ve taken me forever to turn around I would just lost them I’m going to cover that car again I really want to drive one..
You asked how a Machine would do against a GTO. Well we bought a 69 Ford Galaxie XL 429 two barrel. One time on the freeway a Machine came up on us and challenged us, the XL walked away from it.
Interesting... Everyone who mentions AMC always talks about the SCRambler, but nobody ever talks about the Rebel Machine. I'd heard of it before, but assumed it wasn't that special since the SCRambler's get all the attention. Now I find out it was a contender for the most powerful or fastest car from AMC. I find it odd that it's special 390 was only rated at 340hp though... was that a lie to fool insurance companies or was that the honest rating? 1st choice, I'd have to go with "The Machine" 2nd choice, gotta pick the Challenger. '70 'stangs were ok, it was the last year that they still looked good, but the only engine I would consider that year would be the BOSS 429, so if I'm limited to the Mach 1, "The Machine" comes in an easy second place. Finally, a song I know well! Mississippi Queen, from Mountain's 1970 album, CLIMBING! Too bad I'm 3 months late...
Mississippi Queen is such a great song, you know what i mean lol This car was awesome I have never seen one up until that point but after that I think I’ve seen six more so they’re out there I haven’t even saw a couple that wasn’t the red white and blue scheme which I think is rarer. Great choices =)
The fuel injected Rebel was never offered. AMC realized in time what Chrysler didn’t, that the technology wasn’t ready. I think RFI was the primary problem.
They have been using mechanical injection since the start of the car. Many WWII planes were fuel injection. Carbs don't work well in planes. Early Corvette had FI.
@@rogersmith7396 Chevrolet offered mechanical fuel injection. What the Chrysler and AMC were attempting to use was an early, Bendix electronic fuel injection.
I don't think "The Machine" fits in with the Camaros, Mustangs, and Challengers / Chargers or Barracuda. I think it's positioned to compete with the Plymouth GTX, Plymouth Road Runner, Dodge Super Bee, Buick Wildcat, Ford Fairlane Cobra, Mercury Cyclone, Oldsmobile Cutlass and Pontiac GTO. -0 sort of the mid-sized muscle cars, but not the pony cars. The AMC pony car competitor was the Javelin and AMX.
Always had a soft spot for AMC cars though I'm not a performance buff, so Rebel Machine would not be for me. Though still like Rebel and Ambassador. The last year for the Rebel was 1970 before getting replaced by the Matador. My favourite AMC is the '74 to '78 Matador coupe for its styling and rarity. My picks from both scenarios would be the Javelin and Challenger.
The ugly truth is that AMC had a tarnished reputation in 1970. Dealerships were somewhat run down and simply couldn’t draw the sales they needed. The Plymouth Duster really took the public by storm in the early 70s.
@@rogersmith7396 Really sad what's happened to all North American auto manufacturers. But good Tesla has been successful. Hopefully Rivian and Lucid will also do well.
@@ernielaw My understanding is most auto manufacturers are near bankruptcy. I was told Nissan would be gone a year ago. They are just too big and bloated and only committed to serving Wall Street. If we have a big recession there may be many failures. A channel I follow says the auto recession has already started and sales have fallen off a cliff.
Mississippi Queen, Mountain?
Yeah buddy congratulations you got it
Don’t you know what I mean lol
@@What.its.like.dang. Too slow.
Mississippi Queen won't you keep on shining!
Had a Machine for 7 years, daily driver. Best most dependable car I've owned. Currently have a 70 M/D Javelin 390. Long Live AMC
Awesome
Just curious with this car really hang with GTO’s.. I never got to drive one of these but I got to drive a GTO and if it does it go that fast that’s pretty impressive.
A neighbor of ours back in 72.. 73 had a new gold 2 dr model. The best heater I've felt. All 70s cars were great. I'm so happy I was a teen back than.
I've always liked all of AMCs special vehicles, but for me, it's always been the Javelin. Because you must have a place for your dogs to ride. The machine is also dog friendly, and hits all the right buttons for me, but there aren't enough of them around. I know where there are 4 really nice Javelins within 25 miles of me.
Funny how I hear the dogs barking as I read this.
The subdivision I grew up in was across the highway from an AMC dealership. I remember these cars well. You are reminding me each week how much the back seats of coupes sucked. Scenario #1: I would choose the Rebel for size and looks. One of my friends' sisters had a Javelin - got it brand new for graduation from high school. Many days it wouldn't even start. Within a year, her dad got her a Mustang. I don't know what was wrong with it. I always thought AMC cars were good cars, but that Javelin is still joked about 53 years later. Scenario #2: I would choose the Mustang. Mustang is just the most awesome pony car ever IMHO. In 1970, my dad took me to the Dodge dealership (also across the highway from my subdivision ... along with the Lincoln-Mercury and AMC dealerships) and I got several brochures. I pulled the pages out and hung that purple Challenger on my bedroom wall. Stayed up there for about 10 years I reckon. One of my neighbors down the street actually had a purple 1970 Challenger. I still check 'em out at every car show ... but alas, I've long since become very disenchanted with Mopars. Give me Mustangs and Cougars and Torinos and Montegos. As always Jay, I love your channel. Each new post is the highlight of that day.
I show what the backseats are like because you never know who wants to buy these cars to use them.. I use mine =) great choices
Glad you dig this channel
I grew up with a Rebel SST, killer car for sure👍👍
Back many years ago I dated a young lady while stationed in New Jersey. She had a Rebel but with the six cylinder engine. Even as a six banger that car really drove and handled extremely well. If memory serves me correctly, her car was a gold color and not the red, while and blue of the standard Rebel.
Awesome story =)
Back in the day they got no respect, When they needed customers where was everyone? Wish we still had them. I owned a 1968 Rambler American, A 1975 AMC Hornet, and a 1977 AMC Matador, my father in law owned a 1972 AMC Matador we loved them all and would own one today if they were still in business.
AMC got the shaft because nothing could be better than a Corvette I mean it kind of sort of still like that..
or GM nothing could be better than GM I mean realistically Chrysler never got the press they should’ve gotten just like Ford.. motor tend has been in bed with GM from the get go
@@What.its.like.
They simply never would have been able to survive for the following reasons
1) Production inefficiencies. Build bodies in Milwaukee or the Lakefront facilities. Then haul them by truck to the Main Plant for final assembly. Then having to truck to the rail shipping yard.
2) Labor costs. Big Three labor costs without the Big Three profit potential.
3) Government regulations. Between safety and emissions developing a new vehicle or simply complying with new regulations was getting more expensive every year.
4) More production inefficiencies. Main Plant in Kenosha was a complex of often older buildings from the 20s, 30s and 40s. The newest building was the Press Room. Built in the 1950s*. The oldest dated to when the bicycle company was there. Aging equipment. The older it gets the more wear and tear. The more maintenance and repair it needs.
5) Aging powerplants. Modern engines are not cheap to develop. Nor are the machining lines cheap. A new engine line today can cost 500M easy.
6) Poor transportation access. At least in the Wisconsin facilities.
*Aside from the Bramelea facility in Canada only one AMC factory building still stands. Building 45 in Kenosha. Only because Chrysler sold it off in the late 80s. There may be a few scattered parts facilities around. I am talking about the vehicle production facilities.
@@What.its.like. Chrysler was always faster. Only today do we see MOPAR getting respect.
All three are great !!!
#1 AMX
#2 Javelin
#3 Rebel Machine
Awesome choices =)
Love Mopars and AMC’s, they really went out of their way to be different. I own both brands in my workshop. I’ve found at car shows the Mopar and AMC guys are kindred spirits and we share our stories, ideas and beers. AMC engineers did a lot with a little, I wish AMC got into the muscle car wars earlier than they did.
there is a rambler rebel club out there, glad to hear you talk about the 57 rebel, most people dont know anything about it. in the early 60s a guy in burbank ca where i lived at the time had one.
Awesome car! Picks - The Machine and The Challenger (only if equipped with the 440/6) otherwise The Machine again. Like you, I cheer for the underdog.
Great choices I wish we could have started this up =)
What a wonderful bookend to the 1960s and the muscle cars
The Rebel Machine was based on AMC's new Matador line. The Rebel was traditionally the sporty edition of the mid-size line. Similar to the Chevelle SS.
They so-called full-size line, although basically the same car as the Matador with a different grille and trim, was the Ambassador line. The compact line was the American with the Gremlins considered sub-compact and the Javelin/AMX line was their 'pony-car'.
The B-W automatics were known to be power robbing. AMC wisely opted to start using Chrysler's TorqueFlite later, giving similar performance(and often better because people didn't know how to speed-shift properly) compared to the 4-speed.
The h.p. 390 could also be had in the Javelin/AMX, and in those days, you could get all the necessary parts you need to convert a 390, across the parts counter. AMC sold what they called "Go-Packs" and many were installed by the AMC dealers.
The Matador line became a favorite of police departments. Ever seen the old TV show "ADAM 12"? It was all based on pricing and not the the Matadors were any better than the Chevy's or Mopars.
Rebel came before Matador. The Matador was introduced in 71.
I love watching your videos because I almost always learn something new. I never knew that this was a one off 390, different from the standard 390 offered. I will never understand how AMC never had the impact it should've with their offerings. The Javelins and AMXs were rolling pieces of art, and almost any model offered you could go from bargain basement economical transportation to beast mode depending on options chosen. My Grampa had a '74 Hornet with a gas sipping 232 that had a surprising amount of ooomph, and my Mom had a '74 gremlin with a 304 that was the fastest car she or I ever drove until her Daytona Turbo. Both you cold fix in the driveway with a standard set of Craftsman tools, no "specialized" tools needed (looking at you, FoMoCo... lol). Keep up the great work, Jay... it truly is appreciated!
Awesome glad you dig the channel sorry for the late response on vacation and drove all day yesterday
I want to drive a car with a 232 I’ve heard those engines are bullet proof
Thank you so much for sharing the memories =)
@@What.its.like. They ARE bulletproof. In the late 80's we had an American 4dr with a bad trans that we were going to sell for scrap, which at the time was it's highest value; nobody wanted them back then. Just for fun we decided to have a few beers and watch the motor blow. Start it up, concrete block on the pedal, engine screaming for 12 minutes- nothing happened till it ran out of gas. Grab the lawnmower can and tried for maybe 5 minutes more. Darn thing wouldn't even overheat! Can't remember for sure but IIRC we got $40 for it and only had $15 in it so it paid for the beer and our time. Sad to think about all the cars we scrapped back then never knowing how valuable they'd become now.
Gotta go with the Challenger. Really liked this episode, great car. Really unique. My grand parents lived down the street from the AMC plant in MKE, my uncle literally was the guy that shut of the power when the plant closed for the last day. Nothing ever beats a GTO. I will take a Judge over any car in the world, ever. Great episode.
Awesome glad you dig this video.. I drove a 70 challenger last year the clutch was hard to push down very heavy clutch and it was spring loaded never got why that was a thing hard car to hook up.. I also drove a judge and that car the gas pedal and clutch were super light but hurst shifter was notchy... I have yet to drive anything amc (aside from cross country wagons )
Mechanic I use to know back in the day. Had a friend that had one. Mechanic swore it was one of the only cars he knew of, and rode in that would break the tires loose at 70 mph.
Awesome story =)
Break loose at 70 mph❓ 🤡 Nope….. not even a HemiCuda could do that 🙄
The mechanic was a street racer, all his friends were racers. None of these cars were anywhere near stock. Running on tires from the late 70's and running on race gas. Him being a good friend as well as my mechanic on my K code 289 that made over 350 h.p.(not bad for a daily driver in 1978). I'll take his word for it. Don't know what a hemi will do. My 68 Barracuda had a 340 High Performance in it or that's what the breather said.
Those are really cool looking, I've only seen one other than photos, I would love to have one.
That is a bad a** looking machine !! I don't think I've ever seen one in person, but it was awesome seeing it close up on here! I love the color scheme, and the interior, man it looks comfy too! I would definitely choose this beautiful machine! Cool video 😎
Question 1: AMX, my friend in high school had one. Yellow. Very nimble that made it faster. A great looking car I thought.
Question 2: Challenger. Love the car. I had a few friends in high school with those.
Cool choices =)
Sharp little car. I would've wanted one had I been old enough back then. I was only four years old then.
Keep them coming buddy! I am loving your videos!
Glad to hear you dig this channel =)
Nice car Jay! You can't get any more "American" than the Rebel Machine!
Totally agree
What a treat , amc my #1 pick for muscle cars . I had a 65 290 v8 rambler . Nice car
Awesome what was amc 290 v8 like Was it comparable to Ford’s 289 or 302
I love AMC's!
Me too =)
Couple of corrections
Turn signals or turn indicators... turn signal indicators are in the dashboard or on the fender tips facing the driver
By 1968 those were side marker lights were required not refectors
One of my favorite AMC'S
AMX any day. It is such a nice looking car. Mustang really looked good .
AMC was ahead of its time with the 327 engine in 1957. It had the same bore and stroke as GM's small block Chevrolet 327 but GM's wasn't offered until 1962. The 1970 390 was a one year only engine which used the tall deck block like the 304 and 360. The next year it got stroked to 401 cubic inches.
Vastly underrated company amc was.. they could have gone so far they had the right people running the company, in an alternate reality John DeLorean is the head of Amc can you imagine how different things could’ve been
They had a 390 in the two seat AMX.
@@rogersmith7396And it own serial number above the give box on the dash.
Had a
HURST SC/rambler
AMC was a cool car company. Very highly
under rated power.With a litlle tuning you could have some fun.
Thanks cool video.
Super underrated car I haven’t seen one in the wild for a while this is the very first machine that I’ve seen probably in 10 years everybody’s been asking for it they are so hard to find.. glad you dig this video =)
Thanks for this video. These cars are definitely overlooked and it's a treat to see one. My uncle drove a '67 Rebel for a brief period of time almost fifty years ago but he never said anything about it.
Anyway, my first choice would be the AMX. I would probably go for the Mustang in the second scenario.
Awesome choices =) these are overlooked
There is an Nash, AMC collection in Belle Fourche, SD, not sure what they all have but worth a shot.
Great work sir
THANK YOU!!!
Your welcome this has been a highly requested one =)
Long live AMC muscle! 💪
Amen =)
Hello my good buddy I remember those cars especially the gremlins and ambassadors etc.. you sure Don't see none of them anymore but my neighbor has a AMC eagle station wagon he is just letting it rot down..good to see all the uploads..I don't know if you called I've been home all day and I haven't heard it ring it's been raining off and on and my service is poor...you sure have a awesome voice, yes sir my neighbor out the road has a 4 door rambler somewhere in the model but some cut it down the middle years ago and it got pushed over the embankment I don't know if it's still there or not.
I love the eagle going to review one for the channel one day =) glad you dig this episode
it wouldn't matter i will take all three. great video one of your best.
Thank you glad you dig this one =)
Chrysler introduced the curved side windows. Those outside door handles were introduced on the 1960 Imperial.
With that paint scheme, they were a gaudy cop magnet. LOL
Very cool!!!!!! 👍👍
Great video. I seen a Rebel in the AMC dealership. Interesting car. Thank you for sharing 😊👋🐿
Thank you so much for watching glad you dig this video
Growing up our neighbor had one of these and his wife drove a Matador
I’m making it a point to cover some more AMC stuff that’s underrated =) matador is on the list of cars to look for.. They used to be everywhere I haven’t seen one in years
Really .Nice machine.
I'd go for the Javelin and the Challenger.
Hi Justin, The Rambler Rebel Machine was a outstanding high performance automobile that was not recognized by car buffs at the time. It would give a Pontiac GTO or a Chevelle SS a run for it's money. It was a "High Performance Mid-Size", or "Mid-Size Muscle" you might say. All American Motors cars "Am" where titled as "Rambler" at that time, the "AMC" trademark was not until later. Notice the small "Am" badge in the center just below the rear glass. That was American Motors trademark long before AMC. Please reply. Dave...
Let’s fire that Machine Up, cruise Ridge Ave listening to WIBG
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AMX, Challenger
All of the AMC muscle cars were highly underrated. As was AMC in general. I once owned 72 Matador sedan. Straight 6 that had a bad rear seal. Leaked like crazy but was otherwise totally reliable. A decent solid car.
Awesome choices =)
I have to respectfully request that you reconsider your test subject for the glovebox. That camera is large & heavy & could easily break the glovebox of many vehicles being that they're usually very old with some being made out of cardboard like materials that dry & would rip away from their mounting points & or doors & hinges. So I suggest, how about gloves? Maybe a puffy winter set of gloves which would take space without the weight & risk of damage. It's just many times I cringe when you attempt jamming that unreasonably sized object that nearly no one would try to place in their glovebox, if it does fit like in some cars it would surely drop down onto the floor while driving down a bumpy street.🤔 Great video & even greater car!
It’s more or less the show what you can store it in the glove box while your car is unlocked at the car show if you have a purse that size it would fit some of these cars are a pain to walk especially ones before 1965. The ones being a pain to lock as in they only lock on the passenger side meaning you have to escape or exit the passenger side door in which to lock them.
Just repaired the box in my 70 Eldorado. It was only hinged with plastic tabs. Super glued them back and hope for the best. Any bolts would show through the front.
There was a fella in LaCrosse WI that had at least one AMC Rebel Machine
1936 production figure was sourced from AMC; 2326 figure was sourced from Hurst. The book "The Hurst Heritage" attributes the design of the hood scoop to Hurst. A similar style is found on the 1971 Hurst Jeep Commando - only 100 made. Tach was sourced from AC - same as Buick GSX. Ram-air actuator and flapper are fomoco. Many sources cite the first 1000 units as being RWB, but VIN data shows solid color cars were also produced early in their manufacture. 1/4 mile time was slightly faster than a 383 Roadrunner. Search "rebel machine burnout" to see a relatively stock Machine light the tires.
Awesome information =)
I know someone who has this Rebel Machine in this color. It is a bad ass car. And long. It's a year older than me 😊
Sweet =)
Another great car and feature, Jay! I have only seen one or two of these cars in person and find them quite interesting.
There was a red white and blue Javelin around here.
Glad you dig this episode
There's local guy who has one of these. There are also 2 locals with the S/C scramblers. Big AMC following here in Joisey! For your choices today, I'd take an AMX, and the "Machine" The Challenger is cool, and the Mustang is nice, but they are out there no matter where you turn. A vintage AMC? Sure, sign me up. I'll park it next to my Buick!
Sweet =)
Hi Jay!: An interesting machine (no pun intended)! Leave it to AMC to make a performance car from the MATADOR! Would be fun to drive that one and see how it goes. The mid-year Corvettes all had the vertical radio, also, Personally I like the body style of the AMX and Javelin a little better, so I guess I would have to take the AMX in WYR#1. For #2, even though I LOVE the early Dodge Challenger's design, would have to go with the 'Stang. Those small block Ford engines seem to run forever!
Great choices =)
It would have been awesome seeing this drive
The Machine, the Challenger
Sweet choices =)
I had a 74 AMC Hornet Hatchback ,My 1st Car,That Was a small car for that time (84),had V8 in it and when you stomped on it would Fish tail and screech the tires,Powerful car for that time
Awesome thank you so much for sharing those memories =)
@@What.its.like. yeah I’ve been around a while 60 Yrs
@@What.its.like. Actually ,I googled it,Mine was the wagon ,very sleeper looking ,Wasn’t that big ,
The wagon would have been totally cool
@@What.its.like. yeah It was a Beast
The Javelin. Such a winner in the Sports Car racing series back then and a favorite of the late, Mark Donahue and car owner-operator, Roger Penske.
Torque again...always back then Torque...the pulling power (?) of any car and truck.
"Mississippi Queen" by Mudd (1970), I think, was the tune.
My mistake...it was the rock group Mountain, not Mudd (if there ever was such a music group).
@@tsf5-productionsThere was a British group called Mud. Remember Tiger Feet?
Not to be confused with Mississippi Mud!
A perk of living in Wisconsin is you still see a large amount of AMCs. Rebel Machines can be seen at muscle shows and Eagles as well as hornets and AMXs are still common here
Awesome thank you so much for sharing that with me I got to get up there one day I haven’t been west of Indiana aside from going to Nevada Las Vegas and California
only seen 1 in my lifetime and it was only on the road for a few years. kid who owned it blew engine and many years later i found it in a local junk yard
That’s crazy I couldn’t imagine seeing this car in a junk yard
the roofline is similar to the 1969 Torino GT, Justin
I should’ve talked more about the roofline where the rear quarter meets it’s very interesting the quarter almost looks too tall at some angles
I had a rebel in high school it was a 1960 327 3speed od about a 15.5 second 1/4 mile. would do 130 mph. presently have a 59 rambler with a 327 it fails quick. only has 492k miles on it.
Sweet how did you like your rebel curious where are you located?
Not a bad looking car. While the styling was a bit generic in some ways, it wasn't extreme. To me, this car, without the red, white, and blue paint scheme, could be a sleeper. It almost looks like something your great aunt would drive to the local church pot luck - or underground bingo game.
It was like the early Ford Fairlane production race cars. Hollowed out, just for the strip.
Totally agree... I personally never loved the red white and blue scheme but looks great in person and it’s one of those cars that you know what it is based on graphics and paint kinda like the bandit car
I looked at a rebel machine when I was considering my first car. In my opinion this is a car that looks better in photos than in person, styling wise. Still a very cool muscle car but definitely not for me. I'd take the AMX over a Rebel or Javelin.
Yeah it’s an acquired taste great choices
They also look like a Plymouth Road Runner
That vertical radio meant that you had a hard time mounting an aftermarket am/for radio in the dash, back in the day...
Awesome mean machine. I've never seen one before
At first glance I thought it was a Coronet.
I prefer the Javelin, such a fine design, and the
Challenger, so super cool
PS that couldn't be 19000 original miles, could it?
Thanks Jay, top show again
It’s very possible that this was original miles he bought the car at Mecum.. hence all the mecum stuff on it =)
Yeah, Javelin, hands down.
Challenger with the 440 6 pack for the win. Or maybe even the Hemi!?
Sweet choice
@@What.its.like. In 1970, the Hemi Cuda was the fasted production car you could buy!
It reminds me of a Marlin which reminds me of an early Charger.
Marlin came out first.
also the Matador coupes which came out later.
I could've bought one of those beauties brand spanking new , sadly I did not 😢
They are really hard to come by now.
Politically incorrect, The red, white and blue are Confederate flag colors for a REBEL. Love it so much!!!!!!
=)
Probably not true. My Uncle Roy was from PA and was a Northern person all the way!
WYR1: Javelin, then The Machine
WYR2: The Machine
Mississippi Queen - Mountain.
Very good review on a car that carries a lot of mystique.
That car is in impeccable condition. The odometer read 19k & change. Can that be original??
Yeah buddy that’s the name of the song and band =)
Super interesting overlooked cars is what we do.. with the Caliber of collector this guy was I’m sure that those were original miles that car was like a brand new car he had a Lotta other cool stuff there I’d really like to go back one day
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.....thank-you for the vid, I appreciate your efforts and share your passion for cars.....however it is odd that you don't compare it to the '70 Chevelle SS, the '70 Torino Cobra, and the "70 Plymouth Roadrunner rather than the Mustang or Challenger.....and though the Machine is a very rare and collectible vehicle, it would be last on my list compared to at least a dozen 1970 model sporty/performance cars....
Had a gremlin x 304 ,fun car and plenty tough. I have heard of a service package offered by AMC dealers for this car or maybe others . It cost 500 bucks and if installed the car would run twelves. Any truth to this? I am interested in this legendary service package , think it's a cool story if true.
I'll go for the '69 AMX
Challenger, Mach 1, and no Rebel at all. I love pretty classic cars but the Rebel body reeks of cheap with all the gaps, bolt-ons and the hood scoop looks like it was purchased at Pep Boys. Heh, it's going to be challenging to stump an open audience with Classic Rock songs. That's Mississippi Queen by Mountain with Corky Laing. :)
Cool choices =)
I think these were light. The 70 GTO was a barge. It would have to be like a 455 Ram Air III or something. 4 speed and big diff.
J - I think that the AMC door handles are from their Kelvanator refrigerators.
Interesting 🤔
i would take the AMC Rebel Machine
Sweet choice =)
Mississisppi Queen
Javelin & Challenger are my choices
Sweet =)
Javelin, Challenger. Mississippi Queen - Mountain.
Machine, Machine
Sweet choices
I want a 401 Mark Donohue Javelin and the Challenger. Not purple. Yuk. Maybe a TA Challenger.
Please cover the AMC marlin
I did but it was early on, I want to cover 67 I saw 67 for the very first time the other day but he was driving the opposite way and which I was driving and it would’ve taken me forever to turn around I would just lost them
I’m going to cover that car again I really want to drive one..
@@What.its.like.Thanks your channel is awesome and please don't let the first gen charger be forgotten either❤
The plan is the eventually cover them all.. glad you dig this channel 48 studebaker champion sometime today
AMC Javlin and Dodge Challenger or barracuda with a hemi or a 383 interceptor you have to give old-timers more car maker options just saying
You asked how a Machine would do against a GTO. Well we bought a 69 Ford Galaxie XL 429 two barrel. One time on the freeway a Machine came up on us and challenged us, the XL walked away from it.
Interesting thank you so much for sharing those memories =)
It may have the power steering hoses, however the pump is missing. No power steering on this puppy.
AMX
Mustang
What is the black car in the background?
That is a 1939/or 38 Chrysler imperial that I really want to feature on the channel hopefully one day
Rambler Ranch Colorado has a original Rebel.
Good to know
all three!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sweet =) !!!!!!!
1970 AMX and the 1970 Dodge Challenger
Sweet choices =)
AMC built some really nice cars, but they just didn't sell in large numbers. The "Machines" were as scarce as chicken lips on the street.
Interesting... Everyone who mentions AMC always talks about the SCRambler, but nobody ever talks about the Rebel Machine. I'd heard of it before, but assumed it wasn't that special since the SCRambler's get all the attention. Now I find out it was a contender for the most powerful or fastest car from AMC. I find it odd that it's special 390 was only rated at 340hp though... was that a lie to fool insurance companies or was that the honest rating?
1st choice, I'd have to go with "The Machine"
2nd choice, gotta pick the Challenger. '70 'stangs were ok, it was the last year that they still looked good, but the only engine I would consider that year would be the BOSS 429, so if I'm limited to the Mach 1, "The Machine" comes in an easy second place.
Finally, a song I know well! Mississippi Queen, from Mountain's 1970 album, CLIMBING! Too bad I'm 3 months late...
Mississippi Queen is such a great song, you know what i mean lol
This car was awesome I have never seen one up until that point but after that I think I’ve seen six more so they’re out there I haven’t even saw a couple that wasn’t the red white and blue scheme which I think is rarer.
Great choices =)
The fuel injected Rebel was never offered. AMC realized in time what Chrysler didn’t, that the technology wasn’t ready. I think RFI was the primary problem.
They have been using mechanical injection since the start of the car. Many WWII planes were fuel injection. Carbs don't work well in planes. Early Corvette had FI.
@@rogersmith7396 Chevrolet offered mechanical fuel injection. What the Chrysler and AMC were attempting to use was an early, Bendix electronic fuel injection.
@@seed_drill7135 I know the Chrysler did'nt work and was recalled.
Rebel -Challenger
Sweet
I don't think "The Machine" fits in with the Camaros, Mustangs, and Challengers / Chargers or Barracuda. I think it's positioned to compete with the Plymouth GTX, Plymouth Road Runner, Dodge Super Bee, Buick Wildcat, Ford Fairlane Cobra, Mercury Cyclone, Oldsmobile Cutlass and Pontiac GTO. -0 sort of the mid-sized muscle cars, but not the pony cars. The AMC pony car competitor was the Javelin and AMX.
Also include the Judge and 442.
Always had a soft spot for AMC cars though I'm not a performance buff, so Rebel Machine would not be for me. Though still like Rebel and Ambassador. The last year for the Rebel was 1970 before getting replaced by the Matador. My favourite AMC is the '74 to '78 Matador coupe for its styling and rarity. My picks from both scenarios would be the Javelin and Challenger.
AMX (though The Machine would get you a longer conversation at Cars & Coffee!), Mach I. I knew a girl from Mississippi who absolutely HATED this song!
Hahaha thank you for sharing those memories =)
The ugly truth is that AMC had a tarnished reputation in 1970. Dealerships were somewhat run down and simply couldn’t draw the sales they needed. The Plymouth Duster really took the public by storm in the early 70s.
The Big Three were firing on all cylinders then. Not the shadow they have become.
@@rogersmith7396 Really sad what's happened to all North American auto manufacturers. But good Tesla has been successful. Hopefully Rivian and Lucid will also do well.
@@ernielaw My understanding is most auto manufacturers are near bankruptcy. I was told Nissan would be gone a year ago. They are just too big and bloated and only committed to serving Wall Street. If we have a big recession there may be many failures. A channel I follow says the auto recession has already started and sales have fallen off a cliff.