Hi Jay! While the styling of these cars was a little frumpy, they were some kind of improvement over the "bathtub" style. Makes you wonder what the future might of been if these had become available in 1949. This car is not bad, even as a mild custom. And I kind of like the purple paint! Someone will buy this and have a NICE purple Packard! WYR 1951 Lincoln, 1951 Oldsmobile
I seriously spend more time paused, reading the various ad literature you show, than anything else. I always find them fascinating. Some of the interesting "daring, new concepts" they advertise are really fun to go through and imagine when these features were innovative and futuristic even. Like the "New Tele-Glance Instrument Panel". Sweet. That pull-out glove box is AMAZING! The 51 Caddie and the 51 Hudson for me. Great video as always and I'm glad I found this channel this year.
I'm happy you found this channel this year as well =) the goal is to cover them all I absolutely love the advertisement pieces as well that's why I make it a focal point
I asked a man about his Packard and he told me it was best in WYR 😁 If the Hudson had "Twin H" power I'd pick it next; otherwise that Olds is stylin 😎 The wires look good on this Packard but the paint color gotta go. I can see why the entry-level 200's made up 70% of the sales this year- it looks so modern compared to the 1950. Hope all are having a great Christmas!
The hood and grille follow the profile of all Packards, some call 'waterfall'. Uncle Tex had a 1951 300 sedan, with Cormorant and 3-speed w/overdrive and cruised at 75-80
Love the 2 door body. like the 51- 56 Packards. If I purchased this car I would repaint it a more conservative shade like gray or light blue or green and change those wheels to vintage Kelsey-Hayes wires. First pick 51 Packard 200 coupe, second 1951 Olds 88 2 door coupe.
Surely, whoever painted that car purple also has a velvet Elvis painting in their house, which, Jay, you have probably never seen before. WYR: 1 Cadillac 2 Hudson Hornet
Of I recall correctly, my Dad had one in a egg shell and 4 door . I remember that dash and that we had a swan hood ornament. If I recall correctly ours had fender skirts . My mother always complained about the comfort of the rear seat.
When put into context of being the entry level model, and the WYR comparisons, my appreciation for these cars took a step up. Thanks for doing a great job, Jay!
If this were the top tier Packard I’d pick it over the others but as it is I’ll take the Lincoln and the Hudson both beautiful and great road cars, thanks Jay and Merry Christmas
WYR 1: oh the Lincoln … it’s perfect WYR 2: Always the Hudson I’d never seen the 50 Packard compared to the 51 restyle, side by side like this. I was really surprised at how much more appealing I found the 50. That first post war Packard was radical … and some people hated it … but I love it. Heck. What do you expect from someone who thinks Nash is the pinnacle of design? Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Jay!!!!
Packards had positive ground electrical systems. What that means is that the positive battery cable is attached to the engine. The negative battery cable goes to the starter solenoid and then the output terminal of the generator. Ford did it this way also. You were limited which electrical accessories might be added, if they had to have a specific polarity. The early Packard Ultramatics did NOT automatically shift gear ranges. The driver would select "H"-High range or "L"-Lo range. It was meant to be normally driven in "H". This is how the Buick Dynaflow operated. There were major differences between the Packard Ultramatic and the Buick Dynaflow. Both used multi-element torque converters, but the Packard had a torque converter lock-up clutch, which they called "Direct Drive". This stopped all slippage in the torque converter. It acted like the clutch in a manual transmission. Packard introduced an automatically shifting Ultramatic for the 1954 model year. Buick Dynaflows never automatically shifted during it's production run until it was discontinued after the 1963 model year.
The Cadillacs of that era had more desirable styling but I still like Packards for their rarity. My favorite Packard would be the 1953 Carribbean, which compares with the Eldorado.
From all choices in the section " which you rather", Packard has a design like in 1950ties while all others like 1940ties. I definitely like 1950ties design of Packard vs 1940ties. 1940ties: fastback with covered rear wheels, while 1950ties is a clean sedan with open airy outlook, non covered rear wheels, no congestion of design elements, clean, elegant, modern, for 1950ties, design.
Is Series 62 the entry level Cadillac for 1951 ? Otherwise comparable for Packard 300 vs. the Cadillac ? Best drivetrain for Packard in 1951 a 3 speed with overdrive plus performance axle ratio ? (Cadillac did offer a much more versatile/better performing automatic than did Packard that year- although Packard had a lockup torque converter !)
Did 1951 Packard 250 have rolldown rear passenger windows? I guess the closest GM comparison would the the 1951 Pontiac Eight/Chieftain vs. the Packard 250,both with 3 speed (I don't think Pontiac offered an overdrive that year) both in 4 door or at least with B pillars if 2 door
Being a base model 200 not the Deluxe they left out lots of items! No roll down rear windows is one! They came with black rubber floor mats front and rear, no side trim the OEM interior fabric was very plain yet durable. Packard was spending far too much effort to compete with low end model Buick Special, Chrysler Windsor. Yet Packard cost more and offered even more basic interior. Mechanical wise they were top notch Packard smooth straight 8 with reasonable power, stable ride and good handling for the era. Tom McCahill reviewed the car and praised ride, handling and smooth engine but like all early Automatics he preferred the Manual and Overdrive.
A very interesting car. Excellent video on what some people view as a "lesser Packard". Whatever that is. I kinda like the purple on that car. It does liven up what is pretty bland styling.
When I was a little kid back in the 50s, I knew most makes by the age of 4. I always thought the post-war Packards were horribly ugly, except for the 55-56 models. I still do. I also think that Packard's downfall was partly due to the building of the 'junior' cars. That removed a lot of the Luxury/Elegance/ Prestige that buyers valued. I was very surprised at the back seat area of your feature car. I mean, a cheapo Ford had roll down rear windows and ash trays. I'm guessing that the blatant cheapness of the car soured people on Packard. WYR= Lincoln and Hudson, altho the Olds is arguably one of the earliest 'muscle cars'. NTT= no idea. Merry Christmas, Jay, to you and your family! PS- I really like those wire wheels, tho. I didn't know that Cragar made them.
I think this was a transitional time for auto makers as they were (sometimes clumsily) searching for styling direction. I actually prefer the Packard over the other makes featured here as it pointed the way to a more practical shape of autos to come. The Caddy & Lincoln were more "stylish" but less appealing to my sensibilities now. I have dim memories of cars of this era as I was born in '56 as these models were fading from the roads, usually with trails of blue smoke & patches of rust here and there! 😢
Yes have you ever noticed car body styles with the same name like touring car phaeton are essentially the same after 1930 The ads call that car a coupe
You're doing a fantastic job! Could you help me with something unrelated: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
Looks like the public ate this one up as the vast majority sold was this model, finally an affordable Packard? Seems a little spartan inside, but the money was the Packard power train and reputation...
To me the wide whitewalls, wire wheels, and the color look out of place on this car. Pre-war Packards are some of my favorite cars but I just can't get myself to like post-war Packards. And the early 50's is not my favorite era for cars. I'd choose the 1951 Cadillac Series 62 and the 1951 Hudson Hornet. It was a very quiet Christmas at my house.
Well, I appreciate the close-up details of the car so we can understand the overall design. I wouldn’t touch this particular car. Between the obviously poor quality body filler work, the sanding scratches and the fish eyes from the poorly done paint job. The only person who should consider buying this car. Is someone who would consider stripping it back down and restoring it properly.
I don't understand why the sun visors are shaped so that they block the view of the rear view mirror when down. A full view of the rear view mirror at all times is necessary for safety. The only reason I can think of is to save money because the left and right visors can be the same. WYR#1: The Caddy. WYR#2: The Hudson. Not that I don't like the Packard, but I am partial to Hudsons, and who doesn't want a Caddy? I do prefer the older Packards. I don't like the '50 generation Packards at all; I think they're ugly.
Sweet choices and insight that year hornet is hard to beat the convertibles have real leather even without the leather interior. I think the Hudson interior is head and shoulders better than the Packard. It's a way better place to be I think that's my favorite year for the Hudson hornet
Hi Jay! While the styling of these cars was a little frumpy, they were some kind of improvement over the "bathtub" style. Makes you wonder what the future might of been if these had become available in 1949. This car is not bad, even as a mild custom. And I kind of like the purple paint! Someone will buy this and have a NICE purple Packard! WYR 1951 Lincoln, 1951 Oldsmobile
I seriously spend more time paused, reading the various ad literature you show, than anything else. I always find them fascinating. Some of the interesting "daring, new concepts" they advertise are really fun to go through and imagine when these features were innovative and futuristic even. Like the "New Tele-Glance Instrument Panel". Sweet. That pull-out glove box is AMAZING! The 51 Caddie and the 51 Hudson for me. Great video as always and I'm glad I found this channel this year.
I'm happy you found this channel this year as well =) the goal is to cover them all
I absolutely love the advertisement pieces as well that's why I make it a focal point
I asked a man about his Packard and he told me it was best in WYR 😁 If the Hudson had "Twin H" power I'd pick it next; otherwise that Olds is stylin 😎 The wires look good on this Packard but the paint color gotta go. I can see why the entry-level 200's made up 70% of the sales this year- it looks so modern compared to the 1950.
Hope all are having a great Christmas!
Merry Christmas
Sweet choices
You're right about the color as it doesn't belong with that car., However purple would be a great color for a Challenger or Prowler.
The hood and grille follow the profile of all Packards, some call 'waterfall'.
Uncle Tex had a 1951 300 sedan, with Cormorant and 3-speed w/overdrive and cruised at 75-80
That means Packard used the name 300 before Chrysler. Chrysler also had a 200 for a brief period in recent years.
@@ernielaw As Jay reported, 200, 250, 300 and Patrician 400 thru 1954. Cavalier, Patrician and 400(Patrician 2-door hardtop) in 1955-1956
1951 Packard. 2nd scenario.
I’m thinking that’s an aftermarket color on this beauty.
I dig the purple as well
Love the 2 door body. like the 51- 56 Packards. If I purchased this car I would repaint it a more conservative shade like gray or light blue or green and change those wheels to vintage Kelsey-Hayes wires. First pick 51 Packard 200 coupe, second 1951 Olds 88 2 door coupe.
That Grey Interior is beautiful, simple and clean looking.
How rare to find one of these! Not sure I care for the paint color on this car, but it sure is clean! And I'd take the Lincoln and the Packard.
Sweet choices
Merry Christmas!.🎄I know you’ll hit that 50k mark real soon!.I see it happening!.😎
Thank you
It was this years goal =) I know we will get there
Merry Christmas to you and yours, Jay. All the best in 2025.
Merry Christmas to you and yours as well
Surely, whoever painted that car purple also has a velvet Elvis painting in their house, which, Jay, you have probably never seen before. WYR: 1 Cadillac 2 Hudson Hornet
Happy Holidays Jay and family! The start of Packards downfall. Thanks again.
Happy holidays
I agree packard lost their way after the war they found it again in 1955 but it was too late
Merry Christmas a great video as always thank you so much
Thank you merry Christmas =) to you and yours as well
1951 Cadillac
Hey buddy good to see you 👍 merry Christmas 🤶 🎄 jay to you and your family.
Merry Christmas =)
Merry Christmas! 👍🏻🤘😊
Merry Christmas =)
Of I recall correctly, my Dad had one in a egg shell and 4 door . I remember that dash and that we had a swan hood ornament. If I recall correctly ours had fender skirts . My mother always complained about the comfort of the rear seat.
Thank you for sharing those memories
@ if you could ever review that Darrin body showed in you intro that would be great .
It’s in the pipeline
Packard first
Caddy second
🤔 If you covered the purple with a lot of mud 🫥👍
It'd work for me 😉..😂
Great Episode
Happy Motoring ✌️😎
Sweet choices
Merry Christmas !!!!🎄🎄🎅🥳
Merry Christmas 🎁🎄 =)
Belated Merry Christmas i like the 51 Cadillac - Oldsmobile
Merry Christmas sweet choices
Nice new intro with the visuals!
Thank you every intro is different =)
Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkah!
Merry Christmas to you and your family
When put into context of being the entry level model, and the WYR comparisons, my appreciation for these cars took a step up. Thanks for doing a great job, Jay!
Thank you happy you dig this episode
WYR - the only other car to feature the A pillar to fenderline look of modern design was Hudson. Packard was keeping up with the latest trends.
I like the 50 the best.
Purple is about my fav color in general but not on a Packard. What was the OG color on that car?
Not sure what the original color was
If this were the top tier Packard I’d pick it over the others but as it is I’ll take the Lincoln and the Hudson both beautiful and great road cars, thanks Jay and Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas to you and yours
Gentleman's automobile.
WYR 1: oh the Lincoln … it’s perfect
WYR 2: Always the Hudson
I’d never seen the 50 Packard compared to the 51 restyle, side by side like this. I was really surprised at how much more appealing I found the 50. That first post war Packard was radical … and some people hated it … but I love it. Heck. What do you expect from someone who thinks Nash is the pinnacle of design?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Jay!!!!
Happy Christmas Jay! I would have taken the 50 Packard, but in these I would take the Cadillac and the 51 Packard.
Happy Christmas =)
Packards had positive ground electrical systems. What that means is that the positive battery cable is attached to the engine. The negative battery cable goes to the starter solenoid and then the output terminal of the generator. Ford did it this way also. You were limited which electrical accessories might be added, if they had to have a specific polarity.
The early Packard Ultramatics did NOT automatically shift gear ranges. The driver would select "H"-High range or "L"-Lo range. It was meant to be normally driven in "H". This is how the Buick Dynaflow operated.
There were major differences between the Packard Ultramatic and the Buick Dynaflow. Both used multi-element torque converters, but the Packard had a torque converter lock-up clutch, which they called "Direct Drive". This stopped all slippage in the torque converter. It acted like the clutch in a manual transmission.
Packard introduced an automatically shifting Ultramatic for the 1954 model year. Buick Dynaflows never automatically shifted during it's production run until it was discontinued after the 1963 model year.
The Cadillacs of that era had more desirable styling but I still like Packards for their rarity. My favorite Packard would be the 1953 Carribbean, which compares with the Eldorado.
Not a bad looking car over all. I like the interior more, the dash steering wheel in particular. I'd go with the Caddy and the Hudson in the wyr's. 😎
From all choices in the section " which you rather", Packard has a design like in 1950ties while all others like 1940ties. I definitely like 1950ties design of Packard vs 1940ties. 1940ties: fastback with covered rear wheels, while 1950ties is a clean sedan with open airy outlook, non covered rear wheels, no congestion of design elements, clean, elegant, modern, for 1950ties, design.
Is Series 62 the entry level Cadillac for 1951 ?
Otherwise comparable for Packard 300 vs. the Cadillac ?
Best drivetrain for Packard in 1951 a 3 speed with overdrive plus performance axle ratio ?
(Cadillac did offer a much more versatile/better performing automatic than did Packard that year- although Packard had a lockup torque converter !)
I guess they made the 61 but pretty much the same body she'll
15:50 you've never SEEN before
Did 1951 Packard 250 have rolldown rear passenger windows?
I guess the closest GM comparison would the the 1951 Pontiac Eight/Chieftain vs. the Packard 250,both with 3 speed (I don't think Pontiac offered an overdrive that year) both in 4 door or at least with B pillars if 2 door
I haven't saw a 250 model yet but would think so in hardtop model and convertible
Cadi---Olds
Caddy, Hudson. I'm a Packard fan but this model just never did it for me.
Sweet choices. I totally agree. This is not my favorite era of packard
Being a base model 200 not the Deluxe they left out lots of items! No roll down rear windows is one! They came with black rubber floor mats front and rear, no side trim the OEM interior fabric was very plain yet durable. Packard was spending far too much effort to compete with low end model Buick Special, Chrysler Windsor. Yet Packard cost more and offered even more basic interior. Mechanical wise they were top notch Packard smooth straight 8 with reasonable power, stable ride and good handling for the era. Tom McCahill reviewed the car and praised ride, handling and smooth engine but like all early Automatics he preferred the Manual and Overdrive.
A very interesting car. Excellent video on what some people view as a "lesser Packard". Whatever that is.
I kinda like the purple on that car. It does liven up what is pretty bland styling.
The purple paint and glove box drawer is the only exciting things about it not a fan of this era
Can you Review a 1959 chrysler new Yorker Station Wagon please😊
Yes totally we totally will as soon as I find one =)
1st scenario: Packard.
2nd scenario: Hudson Hornet.
Drinking Champagne / Jerry Lee Lewis / I never loved you much when you were mine
You are so close wrong artist
@@What.its.like. Bill Mack? Cal Smith? Me know not how game played. No habla English. Also, illiterate.
Country artist.. or original artist
WYR the Packard in both
Name what tune?
Looks like it was inspired by the ‘49 Ford.
When I was a little kid back in the 50s, I knew most makes by the age of 4. I always thought the post-war Packards were horribly ugly, except for the 55-56 models. I still do. I also think that Packard's downfall was partly due to the building of the 'junior' cars. That removed a lot of the Luxury/Elegance/ Prestige that buyers valued. I was very surprised at the back seat area of your feature car. I mean, a cheapo Ford had roll down rear windows and ash trays. I'm guessing that the blatant cheapness of the car soured people on Packard. WYR= Lincoln and Hudson, altho the Olds is arguably one of the earliest 'muscle cars'. NTT= no idea. Merry Christmas, Jay, to you and your family!
PS- I really like those wire wheels, tho. I didn't know that Cragar made them.
50 Packard Dash
51 Caddy
51 Packard, least fugly.
I think this was a transitional time for auto makers as they were (sometimes clumsily) searching for styling direction. I actually prefer the Packard over the other makes featured here as it pointed the way to a more practical shape of autos to come. The Caddy & Lincoln were more "stylish" but less appealing to my sensibilities now. I have dim memories of cars of this era as I was born in '56 as these models were fading from the roads, usually with trails of blue smoke & patches of rust here and there! 😢
Jay, there's a difference between a coupe and a 2-door sedan.
Yes have you ever noticed car body styles with the same name like touring car phaeton are essentially the same after 1930
The ads call that car a coupe
You're doing a fantastic job! Could you help me with something unrelated: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?
Definitely 51 olds super deluxe 88
Reopen the Packard plant and build, baby, build! New, quality, no nonsense cars!
How sad that some moron painted this fine car that color. Thanks for the video.
It was a big mistake for Packard to produce the 200.
I agree not a fan of this era of packard
WYR: All of them.
Looks like the public ate this one up as the vast majority sold was this model, finally an affordable Packard? Seems a little spartan inside, but the money was the Packard power train and reputation...
The cheapest packard ever was the 1937 115C priced at $700
51 Cadillac.
To me the wide whitewalls, wire wheels, and the color look out of place on this car. Pre-war Packards are some of my favorite cars but I just can't get myself to like post-war Packards. And the early 50's is not my favorite era for cars. I'd choose the 1951 Cadillac Series 62 and the 1951 Hudson Hornet. It was a very quiet Christmas at my house.
Cool choices hope you had a good Christmas
Cool except for the color.
Well, I appreciate the close-up details of the car so we can understand the overall design. I wouldn’t touch this particular car. Between the obviously poor quality body filler work, the sanding scratches and the fish eyes from the poorly done paint job. The only person who should consider buying this car. Is someone who would consider stripping it back down and restoring it properly.
WYR: Cadillac, Hudson. This is a nice car, but nothing memorable. I like the color.
I don't understand why the sun visors are shaped so that they block the view of the rear view mirror when down. A full view of the rear view mirror at all times is necessary for safety. The only reason I can think of is to save money because the left and right visors can be the same.
WYR#1: The Caddy. WYR#2: The Hudson. Not that I don't like the Packard, but I am partial to Hudsons, and who doesn't want a Caddy? I do prefer the older Packards. I don't like the '50 generation Packards at all; I think they're ugly.
Sweet choices and insight that year hornet is hard to beat the convertibles have real leather even without the leather interior. I think the Hudson interior is head and shoulders better than the Packard. It's a way better place to be I think that's my favorite year for the Hudson hornet