Could a Star Destroyer Survive a Xenomorph Invasion? Alien vs Star Wars: Galactic Versus
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5 Xenomorphs - the deadly creatures from the Alien franchise - have infected stormtroopers aboard an Imperial II Class Star Destroyer from the Star Wars Universe. Making things worse, one of the creatures will grow into a Xenomorph Queen - one of the most fearsome science fiction beasts ever created. Will the Imperials finest be able to repel their Alien foe? This match will have two rounds: in round one, it's the 5 Xenomorphs against the Imperial II Star Destroyer and its crew; in round two, the Imperial II Star Destroyer and its crew also gets access to the Sith Lord Darth Vader! Xenomorph vs Star Destroyer. Alien vs Stormtroopers. Xenomorph Queen vs Darth Vader. Who Would Win? Find out on today's episode of Alien vs Star Wars: Who Would Win.
As I mentioned, a Xenomorph is an incredibly deadly creature - they have acidic blood, are incredibly strong, and are very fast. The Queen even more so - she's huge, lays eggs, and doesn't take any crap.
The Imperial II Star Destroyer carried 10,000 Stormtroopers, along with tens of thousands of other workers and officers. Darth Vader, Lord of the Sith, is a master of the Force, and one of the most fearsome forces in the Star Wars galaxy.
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The Resurgent-class Battlecruiser vs the Covenant ORS-vlass Heavy Cruiser.
The Covenant CPV class heavy destroyer vs the Imperial II star destroyer
Quasar Fire-class cruiser-carrier VS. Venator-class Star Destroyer
EckhartsLadder The flood vs xenomorphs
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There is a third option: someone onboard the star destroyer alerts the emperor and he takes interest in the xenomorph and instead of having them destroyed, sends the infested ship to a rebel planet
Then we get "Red Harvest" (the zombie apocalypse Star Wars novel) only Alien style
This.
Nah i think they will go all black wing on this and become star wars's wayne industries and start geneticly adapting xenomorphs to withstand blasters. And then train the queen to use the force...
You sir are an evil genius....
The problem is that there're no 'Rebel Planets'. There were rebel bases on planets, but a star destroyer exiting hyperspace would spook the rebels and have them evacuating almost immediately. You could assume that a distress call was being sent out, and the rebels might respond to that, but an Imperial II-class star destroyer is not worth a small squad of rebels. In the end the Alliance would tow it into a decaying orbit around the system's primary or a gas giant and let gravity and friction do the galaxy a favor.
Crazy idea: Boba Fett vs. Predator. 😀
Ray Thesane big predator fan huh?
I'd have to say Boba Fett. Predator may have superior gear (for the most part), but Boba specializes in hunting down Jedi, force sensitive people who wield light sabers and deflect blaster shots like their tennis balls to a racket and can hold down most anything with their mind.
Samus....
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What about Samus? We're talking about Boba Fett fighting a Yautja warrior here.
Hunter Wilson well i wanna see samus vs boba vs predator....
“Darth Vader himself is aboard this Star Destroyer.”
“Oh you guys are screwed now!”
According to 'Because Science' as Vaders' saber would vaporize xeno acid and eventually destroy his respirator, then *he's* screwed.
If vader was onboard there would be no outbreak to begin with. He could use the force to safely remove the face huggers from the affected stormtroopers
@@leerogish7223 we both know he wouldn't bother with that much effort, he would probably sense something wrong with those storm troopers and then kill them with the parasites inside. The force is so great that even the death star is nothing in comparison, his ability to sense them with the force guarantees that they won't be able to hide long in round 2.
@@SiegeTF well if the xenomorphs pass Vader off enough he can breathe without his respirator and has even been buried alive for presumably hours without his respirator (the dark side healed his lungs temporarily)
@@ggghhhh8776 Sure, but in that situation his force use is limited to sustaining himself. If Vader hasn't got the force, he's just a very skilled duelist who can be rapidly overwhelmed by numbers. If Vader loses his respirator, he gets killed or face-hugged. If he gets face-hugged, you get a force-using alien. A force-using alien multiplies the threat a thousand fold, especially if they share Vader's _strength_ in the force.
Short answer: yes. Mouse droids and other maintenance droids are everywhere on an Imperial ship that size. That means xenomorphs will be discovered quickly and can be tracked without risk to humans. Storm trooper armor may not stop the xenomorph’s jaws, but it will provide some protection from the tail and claws preventing group takedowns of troopers. Blasters would be quite effective against the aliens and would even partially cauterize the wounds so less acid spills. On top of that storm trooper armor has an air supply so an acid-caused hull breach won’t kill them. In short, given the number and type of armed personnel available they can take anything short of an army of xenomorphs.
They have to be able to hit the aliens to kill them,if Darth is on board their good but run of the mill star destroyer could be screwed. There aren't that many sentient droids on Imperial ships because space racists.
When talking about the blaster shots and the aliens. The Aliens have a pressurized exoskeleton. Meaning when hit, there is no cauterization the acid just shoots everywhere. You also have to take into consideration how hot a blaster shot is, because it's a lazer it would vaperize any water in the blood creating acid steam (lightsabers also do this) so the acid steam would melt the hull and the armor of the stormtroopers and even darth vader.
@@mrspeigel3593 if you are saying stormtroopers have bad aim, then you are wrong. Main characters simply have plot armor. The average stormtroopers is actually extremely accurate. Like actually stupidly accurate.
Here is something I learned though, a blaster shot or lightsaber would actually vaporize the acid blood and turn it into gas, that would instantly kill anything breathing it in. So lasers aren't really the best idea.
@@draugadrottin this was shown in two alien movies
Alien Queen: You Imperials are so screwed!
3:03 *Darth Vader is available to help fight the infestation.*
Alien Queen: Game Over man, GAME OVER!!!
Urban Student Prepper and vader throws it back with the force
@Urban Student Prepper Naw Vader would just force choke the bitch before she even gets close. Hell he doesn't even need to be on the ship to do it.
spot on! (no Darth Vader fair fight)
@Urban Student Prepper Any Jedi can easily take on an army of Xenos. They have lightsabers which cauterize the wounds, so no worrying about acid blood. And even then, Jedi like Cal Kestis, a Padawan who had his connection to the force damage was pretty resistant to acid, so even if lightsabers can't cauterize the wound permanently, it can still allow the Jedi to back up and move away from the acid unharmed. Also, they have Precognition which means they know your next move before you even do it. So face huggers are out of the equation. And force abilities will cause trouble for a lot of Xenos.
@@Brendan-kx8iy I don't even see facehuggers being any real problem with the Stormtroopers. Because, you know, full face helmets and all.
And, as long as the Troopers don't actually aim AT the xenos, they might well shoot every single one of them. 🤣
General Grievous leading a droid army to cleanse a Xenomorph infested planet.
The Cool Persian that would be bad ass
Good damn, I wanna see a picture of that
Zenos might actually win, Grievous is a force to be reckoned with but the droid army are awful.
@@weirdosheep619 army of droideka
I think that would depend on the native species of the infested planet and it's population... too many Xenomorphs and a single droid army wouldn't be able to do enough regardless of who was leading them.
the entire empire vs the duolingo bird after you haven't practiced spanish in 10 years
It could be potentially calmed down by a protocol droid.
The Duolingo bird is C-3PO's deity
Squiddestroyer2 YT except we all know who would win
That's not even fair!
THAT BIRD WOULD SLAUGHTER THEM!!
@@ConfusedGuardsman no vader would just choke it from a mile away
Just imagine a force sensitive xenomorph queen resulting from a powerful sith/jedi host.
hahahaha, man, there is no way Xenomorph can catch a Jedi or a Force User of any kind
@@angelkazu2001 They're asleep or don't know they're force sensitive.
Could easily catch a force sensitive, not a trained jedi or sith but wouldn't need to catch a fully trained jedi in order to be able to match one in a fight.
OMG...that would be badass!
@@angelkazu2001 Yeah, because force users are invulnerable.
A little something to picture for your nightmares. Force-sensitive Xenomorphs.
ArcDragon6713 Chill.........omg that's a nightmare
No sleep for me....thanks.
Sorry Vader, but your force choke ain't doing anything
Shudder. I didn't need to know that, thanks.
Fuck sleep.
Sand vs Anakin
Who would win?
If the sand has the high ground it wins.
What if the sand is the high ground?
Hmm, well Tatooine Canon sand sounds about right.
Sand he would be to sad to fight
Admiralkoerner Hahaha!
Disney owns this now. Xenomorphs totally could show up in star wars.
Already done in fan movie. IMPS The relentless. Well a patrol of Stormtroopers encounter a pair of Predator aliens that apparantly been hunting the Xenomorps. The Stormtroopers are not impressed.
It's possible, I mean E.T showed up in episode I.
Only if they take up the form of Mickey Mouse.
@@HexenStar me too buddy me two
honestly, I think The Empire would use the Xenomorphs as bio wepons.
You can't control xenomorphs
@@dr.ivoeggmanrobotnik4011 actually in the univers of the Alien movies there are a few time where Xeno's are succefully controlled, limited, isolated times that usually have an outside force causing the breakdown of the controling device resulting in the Xeno's breaking out. but it can be done, just not easily.
Yes but the xenomorphs are shown to break free
@@dr.ivoeggmanrobotnik4011 yes but 1) The Force, it's a big X factor in this debate, and 2) Palpatine is smart enough to recognize the danger these animals represent, he's not going to do any experiments where it can bite him in the ass, he'd likely keep them on an Isolated world till he could control them, likely through cloning and genetic manipulation, some kind of controler chip like that in the Clones, made just for the Xenomorphs once his scientists could start to under stand them. and if they did break containment on the planet, the Empire could just bombard the site, or planet if nessicary, from orbit to destory the loss experiments.
@@veloraptor2 poor rebels just imagine them fighting xenomorphs
The original alien movie took place on a civilian commercial ship. That's why they weren't able to stop one xenomorph. A imperial star destroyer has 1000s of soldiers on board. Even with their crappy aiming it would be hard for a bunch xenomorphs to fully take over a ship.
You realize they only have bad aim so they don't shoot the main characters at the beginning of a movie right?
Also more people there means faster reproduction for the xeno
@@FreakingSpies Main characters have plot armor. Xenomorphs don't.
@@jenniferbrewer5370 That's my point! THey miss mst of their shots due to plot armour!
@@FreakingSpies George Said he wish he prove to the people that Stormtrooper was better then clone Troopers and wanted To make them better ( Like in Rouge one).
The Star Wars Galactic Republic vs. The Aliens from the Independence Day movies.
That'd mean I would have to watch Independence Day 2...
EckhartsLadder Oh come on, it's basically the same movie......only worse.
The Galactic Republic would be decimated a computer virus would not even cross there minds plus the shields on the IND ships are way to strong.
+Pulse Spear like hell is it both are EPIC.
Empire would have a more fair chance so do Empire vs Independence Day aliens.
Commanding Officer: "...and then Sir, we shall send the troops to...Sir, is something the matter?"
Vader: "I feel a disturbance in the Force..."
Commanding Officer: "Anything of importance, Sir?"
Vader, concentrates while slowly crushing a single cybernetic fist: "Nothing of major importance. Send a clean up crew to auxiliary hanger 8A2. Have the bodies jettisoned into the nearest star. And, Commander, have them be mindful not to puncture the creatures exoskeletons. I shall be in my courters."
Fight: DONE!!!
He once force choke an imperial officer from another star destroyer I think he’s can do it
Well if we are talking about new hope they had a tracker installed into the ship and to be honest I think when the empire was looking for the gang in empire strikes back then maybe he was not trying.In the comics Vader once brought down an entire palace with the force in a attempt to kill himself(he was having illusions of see Padme and he soon realized he had nothing left to live for)
@@godzillakingofmonsters3056 I don't see Vader having even the slightest issue with crushing some critters
Now, a side thought: How terrifying it would be for a Force user to somehow get facehugged and creating a Force using xeno? 😲 Horrifying!!!
Xenomorphs: *Exists*
Stormtroopers: Guess I'll Die
Vader: *Laughs in Slaughter*
All fun and games till a light saber turns a Xenomorph into a acid bomb
@@panzermkii7675 actually the lightsaber would cauterize the would so no acid bomb
@@diorraices8077 nope, it wouldn't, there's instances in comics and novels where they're hit/stabbed with high yield plasma torches and especially if it's the head they basically explode like a melon, a melon full of molecular acid.
Vader : Flashback of Men,Women, and children.
@@diorraices8077 on because science they went into the science of this, it would actually turn the blood into a gas, and anything that breaths it in would die. If that stuff got in the vent of vader's mask, he'd be gone. The force is a much better option for him, but if there are too many Xenos (too many is their middle name) then he'd eventually not be able to hold them off anymore.
Yes the empire actually has numerous militarized droids for numerous scenarios, from urban pacification to front line combat. Two such droids being the Carbonite war droid and its cousin, the incinerator war droid. Each destroyer has a contingent of them on board. The most effective would be the carbonite droid, mainly due to the fact it sprays super heated liquid carbonite, and if it doesn't boil you alive upon being covered in it, when exposed to air it super cools and hardens within seconds, essentially trapping the already partially melted target. Also it would cause minimal damage to the ship. Then you have to take into account, sith acolytes that may be on board or even imperial shadow guards, terror troopers, terror droids, terror walkers, terror bio-droids, shadow troopers, incinerator troopers, imperial commandos. So yeah, they have numerous ways of flushing out and eventually snuffing out the xenos.
Black Ice I like your response and appreciate the idea that the Xeno are at a great disadvantage initially I believe readers are underestimating the Xeno. Also, if this is the first contact with Xenomorph the Empire will take greater losses than most expect not knowing what they are up against.
Just watch the Alien franchise (again) to see how they move against human. Even their losses are frightening stuff. They tend to kick ass.
Now, watch how the Empire are easily infiltrated in SW films. That's all you need to know.
Yeah, while if the Star Destroyer has a special ops detachment, which is very unlikely considering their are 25’000 of them, the destroyer will have a few specialist troopers: incinerator troopers, maybe a carbonite droid or two. But assuming the Xenos manage to get around thirty warriors it would be a good long fight but the imperials lose. However, it should be taken into account that unlike the Alien movie, almost all imperial personnel are armed, and blasters are more powerful than bullets.
Eh, most of the droids would be ineffective just from the perspective of the way the xenos tend to move through an area, too tight and out of the way for easy access. I also think you are over estimating how useful specialist troops would be in this situation. Xenos are primarily ambush predators until they have enough numbers to simply swarm. throw in that unless there is a good science team, or specific individuals on board, they would likely remain largely undetectable to Imperial scanners, I doubt they would make much of an impact until the xenos had sufficient numbers to be taking whole sections of the ship, and at that point its a losing battle for the Empire.
Sith Acolytes however would be an interesting wild card, however it would be unlikely they would be onboard as they usually were covert operatives or away on secret projects.
I will say though, with the way Xeno's exoskeleton works, Carbonite would be extremely effective. Possibly too effective. Might end up with explosive xenos like in the third movie. at that point your just spraying an area with highly corrosive blood.....
Generally I could see the Xenomorphs surviving a couple weeks and killing dozens of crew members at best before the overwhelming remainder of the crew organized to hunt them down and root them out.
The main issues are in 1) how long it takes the crew to realize they have a problem and organize an appropriately lethal response 2) If the Xenomorphs are able to breed and raise enough new Xenomorphs to really present a sizeable threat. This is really dependent on how quickly the queen can lay eggs and how quickly the crew reacts to having crew members disappear.
The bigger question to me is why the crew would not see the parasite hatch-lings in the infected crew members. Star Wars era has very good medical scanning equipment and so I would expect them to detect the presence of the parasite quite quickly and take measures to remove them before they were grown enough to hatch.
Actually, most troopers don't go to the medical bay instead they are left to die on the battlefield.
Just because they know they're there doesn't mean they know how to remove one safely, or that they'll comprehend the threat. If they try to remove one and the acid kills the patient and creature, the medical teams will probably stop and regroup. The creatures could burst during that conference period.
Come on. They couldn’t catch Leia, Luke, Solo and Chewie. Organize. Vader choked out a Lieutenant over this after helping. Aliens win.
@@marcuspowell8142 Leia, Luke, Solo & Kenobi are human. Chewie they could put in handcuffs and pretend he was a prisoner. Being denizens of the area the Empire is operating in they are fairly familiar with Imperial tech and could guess how to use it _or_ disable it. Xenomorphs are not going to be able to "hide" within the population. They can't don storm-trooper outfits and aren't likely to be able to use doors, never mind blasters or elevators... at least as intended. On they other hand, they are going to be very, very hard to stop from physically breaking into from one area to another. However, their propensity for liking dark areas and striking from the shadows means that wherever they go, very likely they are going to take lighting systems out of commission. Not to mention the organic goo they tend to leave around once in an area for awhile. The entire crew of a Star Destroyer is a lot bigger than the human marine expedition force pictured in the movie "Aliens". The Stormtroopers have more advanced medical diagnostic facilities ( likely more than one such station on board ) more advanced surgical facilities. In combat with the Xenomorphs Stormtroopers are using weapons that can either stun or literally burn holes in things, cauterizing them immediately. By comparison the human Marines weapons from Earth mostly were designed to straight up punch holes in things, or blow them apart. The effect of this difference vs the Xenomorphs is that Stormtroopers will punch holes in Xenomorphs with minimal acid blood splash, whereas with the Earthling Marines it was literally splash-O-rama. So shooting a Xenomorph about to kill a fellow stormtrooper is far less likely to result in condemning that stormtrooper to death by acid burns. There is the question, does stromtrooper armor protect at all from acid? Also, the interiors of Star Destroyers are filled with notoriously bright white hallways, etc. Xenomorphs would probably have to "trash" them to make them more to their liking, but in the process... make it blatant that they were in the area.
@@JohnDoe-oq2fx No, they would just hide in the shadows and most equipment is not going to pick them up, any droids they send out to investigate would be destroyed. Xenomorphs are more then willing to ignore droids... as long as they do not pose a threat to their hive. And entering one of those hives... yes... I said one of those hives would be considered a threat, also, after the Earth War. Xenomorphs adapted to make lots of smaller hives so that one gets found, the other can keep growing, and to just point out how quick Xenomorphs reproduce... a few getting lose on earth was enough for them to take over the damn planet.
Xenomorphs wouldn't really be out in open hallways, but in ducts and vents, hiding. And I doubt Stormtrooper can take acid that can burn through the hulls of starships, so there is that as well. Also, a Xenomorph exoskeleton is extremely pressurized, meaning any blast will cause massive splashdamage, it is why Predators who also use energy-based weapons, still cause the aliens to explode in acid blood rain.
Xenomorphs, especially in such a small number would do nothing to hint at where their hive is at. You could be walking down a brightly lit walk-way, you pass under a vent and SWOOP! You are gone. With not a trace that you were ever there, and in the few moments it takes for them to realize you are missing, you were already impregnated and 5 buddies of yours were abducted as well and also impregnated, that is how quick they work, even faster once more soldiers start popping up, and once they have enough numbers, they would first focus on erradicating the resistance that threatens their nests the most, droids and troopers And Troopers may be clones, but they are still based on a humanoid that needs to sleep, and any sleep while a Xenomorph around is potentially lethal. They would take out entire squads one by one until they are numerous enough to just bumrush you, they are like cockroaches, if you see one, that means there are hundreds more.
Imagine if Vader was a host for a xeno and it was born with dark side force powers lmao! Scary stuff.
The facehugger would have no way to get it's ovipositor into Vader due to that heavy mask
Might I direct your attention to the supervillian brawl...
Destructus they are able to get past helmets and the such as seen in the first and third alien movies
Mother of God... 😳😳😳😁👍👍
I'm not sure he has enough organs left to support a Xeno as a host. One, he's in a sealed suit and wouldn't register as a food option to the Xenos, and two without the biological necessities the Xenos rely on before chest bursting, it's likely the infant xenomorph would die in his chest. Even if it did properly gestate, it wouldn't be able to escape his armor.
How about: could a star destroyer survive the thing?
That would be much more of a challenge I think.
I personally don't think so without Vader or an Sith lord/Jedi knight
Without a force user to sense it, I don't think so
Hahahahaha no. Zero space marine series that focus on war and fighting could survive the thing. If the thing show up in a war series it takes 6 minutes for it to become a horror movie. I would love to see the midichlorians go 'what the fuck!' as a thing cell eats them and duplicates them.
Storm troopers would probably win easily.
What if, as unimaginably as it is, darth vader was impregnated by a xenomorph could you imagine a force sensitive xeno wrecking havoc on a star destroyer?
i wanna see the garbage eyeball monster ovamorphed so those things flop through the halls spreading doom and trash slime
Not gonna work xenos dont focus. So have fun with that.
terrapinman there are some very force sensitive creatures in the star wars universe but that doesn't mean they use the force. One of the most force sensitive are Vornskr a force sensitive dog and all they could do was sense other force sensitive beings but couldn't focus the force so could use any force abilities.
Well if you watch The Last Jedi, it's now canon that lineage or relation to a powerful force sensitive does not make you a force sensitive by default.
Vader's life support would make it difficult tho
Easy: With a sith-lord, yes, easily.
Without a sith-lord: maybe, with problems.
with some probs ok, but overall no probs for the empire , cause aliens were really new to the crew from "alien" but i think every stormtroooper know theres exist aliens with some kind of powers and behaviors^^
No, especially not in this scenario you've envisioned. The moment Vader realizes the severity of the situation, he's going to abandon ship and destroy it with the stormtroopers and other imps still on board to prevent the situation from spreading. Vader is unlikely to waste time hunting the Xenos.
I know I'm a year late but I mostly agree but I still think vader would enjoy the fight
Hardly. Xenomorphs aren't that scary when compared to a lot of other things in Star Wars. Plus Vader can sense them and would understand they are very cunning, but ultimately just animals. Plus, we would have to consider Vaders immense mental powers of control and domination. And yes, the force can be used to affect animals.
@@harrisonhurst6480 and some creatures are immune to the force
@@jakealter5504 Very, very few things are immune to the Force, even in the Star Wars Universe, and they can still use the force to indirectly affect them.
@@jakealter5504 Even if they were immune to mind control, they are not immune to being sensed as danger source, be flung around by the force, have things flung at them with the force, etc.
I strangely want to see a xenomroph fight a deathclaw
Akaruhime the xeno would probably win IMO due to the acid blood depends really if the deathclaw would be affected by it. Now I want to know what would a xeno would look like if it infected a deathclaw
LT SpawnKin
Dude if Xenomorph acid in small quanitites can melt through 4 steel floors than the question "Depends really if the Deathclaw would be affected by it" is already answered.
Akaruhime It couldn't end well for the Deathclaw either way. Acid blood kills him or burns off an arm no matter what
phantasmo9998 true but can't hurt to have a lil imagination im a fight would it? xD if superhero beat down can let punisher beat up red hood why not see what a deathclaw can do evem at a disadvantage
The acid would be a problem for the deathclaw, but I could see the deathclaw killing the Xeno before it gets harmed/killed by the acid. Deathclaws are larger, stronger and even faster than Xenos.
The stormtroopers’ blasters wouldn’t cauterise a Xenomorph, the heat would cause the Xeno to explode into a cloud of acid. Cauterisation doesn’t work on invertebrates, and the acid in the Xeno’s body would react with the sudden intense heat and explode.
Realisticly, the intense heat of a light saber would have the same effect. Vader would end up coated in xeno blood if he went CQC with them, and his saber would eventually be disabled if he threw it. Force Push might work, but then all the squished xenos would cause serious damage to the destroyer.
@@danceswithmules so realistically, unless Vader catches and stops the threat early with some decks destroyed due to acid damage, this would end up in Vader abandoning ship. Not due to a superior strength enemy, but because of a technicality.
Oh, so basically use the force to lift the toxic matter up in the air and throw it at the others. Ribs and repeat.
Don't tell me it's not possible because these guys literally block electricity among other things.
I see Vader and some imperial officers abandoning the ship and ordering its destruction.
Xenomorphs are not invertebrates, the have bones and and internal skeleton.
In scenario 2 The Empire would pull a Weyland-Yutani and capture the xenomorphs for testing and experimentation in order to advance weapons research. The Empire is like that. Just look at the novel Death Troopers.
Xenomorph: “hehe imma take over dis ship”
Vader: *exists
Also xenomorph: “on second thought imma dip”
I disagree with a few points, but agree with the outcome. The speed of reproduction is what stops them. They have to sneak around and pick people off, and it's that, that's going to slow the speed of their growth. By the time they're nabbing victims quickly enough, the Imperials can rally and raid the nest in force. Without the queen, it becomes a dangerous game of cat and mouse with the remaining xenomorphs, but its an uphill battle for them, with the Imperials locking down their methods of movement between decks. Casualties would be very high, but it's an Imperial win for sure.
People in the comments are getting too hung up on hardware and biological abilities. Blasters are still going to cause acid spray. They hit with tremendous concussive force and that works differently against a hard carapace versus soft, squishy flesh. Flesh absorbs the impact, an exoskeleton fractures, causing larger wounds which will not all be cauterized. Stormtrooper armor is not going to provide more protection than Marine armor. They're both designed for different purposes, but neither is designed to withstand concentrated acid. Remember, their armor is bankrolled by the same guys who think a hyperdrive, shields and even life-support are too big of luxuries for a starfighter. Stormtroopers are seen to have plenty of trouble with getting hit by sticks and rocks by ordinary smugglers and space teddy bears alike, so it's not going to protect them too well from a tail or a second mouth (That's pharyngeal jaw if you want to sound like a science-y Wey-Yu type.)
Just think about it. The hive in the second movie was established and still lost dozens of xenomorphs to nine marines and a civilian Warrant Officer (Not counting Bishop, Gorman, Ferro or Spunkmeyer as they were in mostly non-combat roles...mostly.) We are talking about over a thousand times that many armed combatants, not just trying to destroy the hive, but resisting them getting a foothold.
The only thing, and I mean ONLY thing that might see an Alien victory is Imperial hubris. The Empire thinks they are vastly superior to any foe, especially non-humans, and act arrogant and brash because of it. I think there is a chance that an officer might see the initial infestation as almost no threat and simply not take the initiative in combating it until it's too late. You or I don't have the Imperial psychology of perceived superiority over any alien threat, and we're also blessed with the meta-knowledge of knowing exactly what Xenomorphs are and what they do. An Imperial commander might be sitting there on the bridge, in his jackboots (or comfy slippers depending on the actor) while he sneers in his 'evil and haughty' British accent, "Cease day to day operations and lock down the vessel over four little worm creatures? I think you overestimate their chances."
Umm.... In Legends, the Verpine had a hard carapace, and had wounds that were cauterized by blaster fire.... (Should still count in canon)
MagmaSnail no difference in what's the result on firing the xenos, they are programmed to burst the acid out,even as they get wounded the instinct drives them to harm the prey if it can't be captured
I just wanted to point out that the carapace has nothing to do with it
sentinelmoonfang I like your take and totally agree that this is more than possible. The Millennium Falcon almost escaped with the trash disposal. Lol
Troopers vs Marine armor...Stormtroopers have a full body glove and enclosed helmet with respirators.
They don't give off a pheromone scent like the colonial marines do, so the xenomorphs don't "see" them as potential hosts and difficult to detect.
They ignored androids, why wouldn't they ignore a trooper in his enclosed armor?
This grants Stormtroopers a very significant advantage, not for physical protection but that's not the whole battle.
Until the Xenos find the cargo hold full of Wookiee slaves and infect them. Beware the Wookimorphs!
Jim C Nice, I said the same thing concerning the prisons. Who knows what crazy Hutt or something is in there.
Actually in the Best scenario it could have small o less dangerous species, but in the worst case they could have some marvels of the universe
That's actually a very good point. The Xenos would naturally seek weaker targets (yeah, I know Wookies are badass but they're trapped in cells and probably shackled and malnourished). I think the xenos' biggest problem would be remaining hidden long enough to make a group big enough to overwhelm a corridors width of troopers
Being realistic about it, a xenomorph infestation wouldn’t happen due to the stormtroopers’ helmets. A facehugger would have to infect an officer.
Not sure a chestburster could make it through the armor, either. Clones being somewhat of a bulk commodity, I doubt they'd bother to take the risk of bringing them back onboard.
Face huggers can secrete their blood to eat through protective layers, did you not see alien?
In alien 1 you can see the space helmets face was melted
@ the facehugger did indeed melt through the helmet in the origin Alien, you can even see that the helmet is melted through when they remove it from Kane. Also in the Alien 3 novelisation (I can't remember if it happens in the director's cut of the movie as well) the alien spits acid in the face of the first guy it kills. They also spit acid on other occasions in comics and novels. It might be a special mutation or it might simply be something they don't use often since it's counterproductive to their goal of taking as many victims alive as possible to impregnate.
Facehuggers can melt through helmets and other headgear covering your face
Space marine: *kicks down door* did someone say purge aliens! AVE IMPERATOR!
spartan 117
Santon devil dogs start blasting
Darth Sidious vs Gonk Droid. Who would win ?
Are you seeing Sidious as weak ? I hope no, He was one of the most powerful sith lords galaxy ever seen, He could deastroy fleets with Force Storm, he could create something like blsck hole, he could transfer essence from body to another body
Are you seeing Gonk droids as weak ? I hope no, He was one of the most powerful droids galaxy ever seen, He could power fleets with his portable batteries, he could create something like a power bank, he could transfer essence from body to another body
Darth Vader I know, this match up is a joke.
Darth Vader This should be turned into a copypasta.
XD
Oh hey, by lore yes in fact there are several Xenomorph-morphs can and do spit acid. Its when they've matured as a nest for quite awhile they develop guardians which can throw their acid across distances of 20 meters.
You discount almost... All the advantages of xenomorphs though and might not have a good grasp on the lore. That's fine, most people haven't read the actual lore behind them. Xenomorphs do NOT Cauterize their wounds, and storm troopers do not use laser (they use plasma) which the USCM has in spades. Their kinetic weapons are actually better because they are automatic **AND** explosive. The USCM also has a much better armor to be frank than storm troopers other than the body glove. Its a plastic polymer with a coating that actually slowed the acid down significantly... Though even though it is touted as being very avid resistant, it still only resisted the acid for a few seconds. Lets get into the breakdown though;
**Xenomorph Breeding:** Chestbusters have the ability to sense when their victims are isolated or not. The one on the Nostromo didn't much care where it popped out for some reason, this is theorized to be since it was being examined Ash had been paying a lot of singular attention to it. Its maximized chance of survival was to wait it out until it simply got too large, and it was the best/last moment it had to get out before it just started to kill the host due to its sheer size and bulk. But typically a chest burster will wait until their target is asleep and isolated. It does this by sensing electromagnetic fields (like a shark) outside of its victim, so droids don't get a pass here. They also keep this ability in adulthood.
After this stage come the duck and cover stage... You will need to likely re-evaluate as they are probably bursting out of the stormtroopers when isolated and will most assuredly have 5 surviving chest bursters. These things aren't just "fast" they are greased hecking lightning capable of lunging at speeds of 50kph and traveling faster than a humans sprinting speed. They would definitely find a way to hide away and mature.
This is where you get it really, really, **really** wrong...
**Xenomorph Hunting:** This phase you got... So wrong. The Xenomorphs aren't jumping around going "Boo!" In front of armored or armed combatants. The queens aren't just "clever" they are *genius* when it comes to threat assessment. The Xenomorphs aren't jumping into groups of hostiles, and the queen doesn't need to establish her egg sack before beginning to lay. She can lay individual egg sacks but its slower. The adults will be targeting imperial officers, crew, and other unarmored and unarmed opponents especially when isolated... Say, personal quarters which almost all imperial officers have. Or ISB agents, etc.
Power is the next thing they are targeting, xenomorphs can and **will** destroy electronics, computers, power, etc. They will use their blood to do this, or under direction of the queen actually directly attack power junctions and rip them to parts. They're fairly insulated from electric shock too and have been seen ripping into transformers to disable the power and continuing on despite being electrocuted.
Even if caught and shot with a blaster... That doesn't cauterize their wounds. Xenomorphs have high pressure blood, and plasma or a light sabre won't get over the defensive mechanism which violently expels their blood. Predators while hunting them avoided plasma casters at close range as they, again, explode outwards with their blood. That and the StormTroopers literally have defective E-11 guns where as the M4A1 pulse rifle had 99 rounds, damn near perfect accuracy, effective range of up to 3 kilometers...
So the Xenomorphs have been here and done this shake down before as a species. The Star Destroyer having SO many crew only makes this situation worse. Less people you can account for, more persons missing, the Xenomorphs have the choice of slow and steady or fast and violent. Star Destroyers have very large, very dark cargo area's.
**Xenomorph Nest stage:** The Xenomorphs tend to found their hive after ten plus individuals. If they have having issues bringing their populations up, the queen will actually send face huggers away from the nest to hunt down isolated people. Again... This could be done anywhere at any time, and the queen will re-consume the wasted egg as she typically does with used eggs. Also, the original drones would all have begun evolving into queens if there was no royal facehugger btw. So without the royal face hugger, these 5 drones would have begun morphing into a queen. Only one would be successful, the other four would eventually became Praetorians which are massive, just about as large as the queen but not as bulky, and protect the nest.
Also, don't really bother shooting these things especially with plasma, Praetorians and Queens are armored. Praetorians are more armored than a queen typically but a queen has more durability based on her sheer size and organ redundancies, but the Praetorians are shields... Their craniums actually develop queen-esque shields which were capable of defending from the M4A1 pulse imperviously. The M4A1 is a better weapon than storm trooper blasters, no seriously, this thing has more destructive potential than any slug thrower in the star wars universe and those things *shred* storm trooper armor. Hell, storm trooper armor is weaker than USMC but I'll get to that!
Right now!
**USCM:** The USCM are vastly superior to the storm troopers in every regard except the full body glove arguably allowing stormtroopers to survive in vacuum. Sources often have storm troopers dying in vacuum anyways. The USCM armor is... Outer layer is ulta-light titanium alloy which makes them laser resistant. Its an ablative layer. Then borite carbide bonded to a layer of graphite composite fiber, the boron is in conical shapes which disperses and take the energy from kinetic hits and is shatter proof. Under all this is a 1,500 denier Venlar fibre liner. This ammounts to armor that completely kicks that crap out of "plastoid" as it is a multi layered approach to defense with ablation. Lasers and Plasma are widely used against (and by) the USCM and are the least effective weapons in the unvierse when going up against the USCM... So outright, USCM > StormTrooper in terms of equipment, weapon, and even training as we know how categorically shit stormtroopers are.
The Xenomorphs deal with these guys, who have tanks with automatic 90mm HEP/Canister/AP canons, gunships with more practical armaments of anything in the entire universe of SW... Seriously,. SW stuff is built just... Senslessly... The USCM is a better and more effective fighting force than the stormtroopers. And the Xenomorphs still go to town on them and they **know** what the Xenomorphs are! Even being prepared they still end up losing most the time, and why?
**Xenomorph Intelligence:** Okay granted one drone isn't the most intelligent thing out there... But they are actually good problem solvers, very good. Bordering on better than the average human in problem solving while isolated. They are baited and trapped, but only when extremely agitated. Typically if you are attempting to trap a Xenomorph it recognizes you are not attempting to run, not attempting to flee... So something is wrong. This typically means they will back off and wait for an opportunity where you are more vulnerable and unaware of their presence. They do NOT like to attack targets that are aware of them when they could simply wait, unless they are carrying out wide scale operations... Which brings us to!
**Queen Intelligence:** Queen Xenomorphs communicate. No they don't just do pheromones etc, they have a tangible and extremely complex language which they can communicate via "telepathy" (argued its EM fields using all their drones as relays and the hive itself and it carries over large distances) in which they know what their drones are looking at and seeing and if need be will give direct orders and concentration.
They are capable of directing troop movements, tactics, and even grand strategy as the USCM has actually been involved in legitimate and outright warfare with a large hive. Queens are even capable of communicating between hives and Xenomorphs from two hives are known to meet up, stand together in close proximity, then run back to their respective hives in what is theorized to be information exchanges. These aren't just simply "animals" with "animal" intelligence, they are weapons of warfare designed specifically to win, and when plot armor isn't in the way there's not much that **ever** survives engagements with them inexplicably like Ripley.
At any rate, the standard stormtroopers would be hard pressed to ever see a xenomorph coming, and even if they see them even hard pressed to hit them since they run up and around walls and can leap over 50 meters in under half a second. This leap is so powerful in some of the writing that when one was actually killed but still in air the body hit a USCM trooper and RIPPED his legs off from the force of impact. Storm Troopers have no, absolutely zero, defense to kinetic weapons or slash/stab, and the Aliens have been seen ripping through **military armor** of the USCM. Which I think I've established is better capable of protection. No Ewok ever killed a USCMarine. The fact there is such a huge population, vacuous storage spaces, isolated crew (some crew in a star destroyer barely leave their posts and sometimes aren't heard of for days) just means that these thing would spread an annihilate the ship that much faster.
Now... Vader eh. I dunno, a lightsaber won't stop the blood from bursting everywhere, they're designed this way the xenomorphs. And there's no way for him to force sense them, similar to how Jedi had no idea order 66 was coming so too would there be no way to sense what a Xenomorph is "feeling" or intention... There is no emotion.
The success of the Xenomorphs would hinge on finding a secluded space to build a hive. A Star Destroyer has a massive amount of interior space though, there may well be some unused machinery spaces or storage areas where they could set up without being noticed. Also, there are a ton of non-stormtrooper crew in support roles, not all of the people on board are armored combat troops. As many people as are on a ship like that, a few maintenance personnel going missing might not get noticed at first. The Xenos would need to be intelligent and uber sneaky.
Maintanace personal are mostly droids tho. So they only be able to do it with officers and if only one of them are missing the whole destroyer would start to locate the treath
The reason why the Xenomorphs are not as dangerous in the Star Wars universe is in the name: 'Star WARS'. In the Alien franchise, humans were not in an active space war, and conflicts are sparse and generally based in espionage and terrorist groups. As seen in the movies, there are soldiers, but there might be only one platoons per battleship. However, in the Star Wars universe, there are just too many Stormtroopers aboard the Star Destroyer (having hundreds to thousands), and quite frankly they are more afraid of Darth Vader and the Emperor than they could ever be against xeno scum. Sure, many Stormtroopers would die, but they won't run out before the hive is located and exterminated.
I fear that, even with the best case scenario, where Aliens start on a civilian vessel and make their way planetside on a populated backwater planet, in the end they'd get crushed. In the Aliens franchise the humans were terraforming planets, since all they really had was Earth and I suppose it was cheaper than exploring to find a habitable planet. In the Star Wars universe, many, many planets are inhabited and can thus send resources to defeat the Xenomorphs. Xenomorphs are dangerous to a fledgling human space empire in the early stages of colonization, where losing their homeplanet would probably extinct the human species; they are not dangerous to a politcally diverse galaxy that has been built over many millennia and has seen many great conflicts and had control change many hands. At worst, xenomorphs might just get added to the daily list of general bs the galaxy's inhabitants have to deal with.
also the empire can literally send star destroyers to bombard the planet to shit, until some amazing planet-destroying space station floats its way over to it, to crack it open.
Sorry to say, you and Eckhardt both are underestimating the adaptability of the Xenomorphs, we are talking how a few were able to completely take over earth with little to no effort. Sure, humans fought back well enough, but the Xeno's simply adapted to them and spread like wildfire, the moment they realize that having one big hive isn't a advantage, they wouldn't do it, they would form many smaller hives, so that one gets destroyed, the other can keep growing. The thing is that even if you kill the queen, as long as one xenomorph remains, as long as one egg remains, that xenomorph can molt into a queen itself, and if it learns that wide open spaces aren't effective, it wouldn't grow too big and remain small so it can stay in the shafts. It wouldn't abduct troopers at first either, but it would focus on the unarmored and unarmed engineers of the ship.
The Empire would lose scenario 1, with the Xenomorphs having no trouble, heck, a war-like race of space hunters have trouble with that species as well from time to time, and they are better trained and better equipped then your average Stormtrooper, so no, humanity being at peace isn't the reason why the Xenomorphs prosperred.
Scenario two, the Empire wins, cause Darth Vader would stomp this infestation since his force powers would allow him to find the last speck of infestation until nothing remained... if he just doesn't simply decide to blow up the star destroyer once he left... most likely with a escape pod full of eggs. Cause yeah, that is how smart Xenomorphs are.
Facehuggers would have a little bit of trouble with the Stormtrooper helmets
Kaleb Levermore-Rich Ummm.. the facehugger used acid to eat through a hardened encironmental helmet to get at Kane in the first movie... which a Stormtrooper helmet isn't.
what about when the stormies are sleeping huh.
SW is slightly ahead of the crew of the Nostromo in terms of scientific advancement, LUL. And acid doesn't work like the Xenoblood, and it's been shown to not work on certain materials available to Earthlings of that time period. A Storm Trooper's armor is built to resist hostile planet atmospheres as well as combat. Doubtful their blood effects would work even if deployed.
The problem is that we do not know the exact molecular composition of Plastoid composite armor. That it contains or is made of materials associated with plastics and resins would indicate a certain amount of resistance to corrosives, probably even xenomorph blood. Not all of the armor was constructed of plastoid, so I would give this one just a resistance to, not an immunity to, acids.
Not a chance. The facehugger would definitely melt that ridiculous helmet to impregnate the destroyers. Facehuggers are strong and can secrete strong acid. Which was strong enough to eat through layers and layers of a ship hull. That ridiculous helmet wont stand a chance
I feel like there should have been a third situation. The empire gets stranded on an infested ship.
A xenomorph from a storm trooper. So they would miss everytime they tried to strike someone.
U point that out XD
What's the fastest way to offend Kyle Katarn? Tell him he shoots like a stormtrooper.
This would be an ideal Dark Horse Graphic Novel miniseres.
I can here it now...Zenos singing Yub Yub.
Dark Horse made even the Star Wars comics before the old canon wre declared non canon by Lucasfilm under Disney two years after they purched it and Marvel got the license to make them. Many of the stories in the DH comics were among the best stories in SW, better than anything from Marvel SW comics or the new canon under Disney Lucasfilm in general.
Darth Maul vs an enlarged prostate
...Da fuck?
WTF?
Fuck?
TheLordOfTheLegos if this is a joke haha if not you need help
HAHAHA I just blew Vodka out my nose.
If directed by James Cameron, this could be a really cool movie.
450/400 Man I 100% agree. That would definitely make it to my top 10 movies.
450/400 Man IKR!!!!
In the end, the imperials would have captured the xenomorphs and sold them to Jabba the Hutt for using one of his fighting arenas.
* Before watching *
With the kinda of aiming Stromtroopers have Aliens would win by a landslide.
Remember that Xenomorphs take on the characteristics of their hosts. The Star Destroyer Xenos would grow to be idiots that can't hit the broadside of a barn and are only good for marching straight down hallways diligently ignoring anything not directly in front of them.
The reason why stormtroopers can’t is that if they killed the main characters early on in the movie well then it’s just gonna be a 20 minute people getting shot
hope you're joking, stormtrooper accuracy is rather remarkable as said by obi wan on the jawa crawler ambush
@@eNoble-US Obi Wan says a lot of things. He says Stormtroopers have good aim. Yet we almost never see them hit anything. He says Luke's father is dead, but we know that he is in fact Vader. He says that if struck down a he will become more powerful than Vader can imagine, but after becoming a force ghost he doesn't do anything particularly impressive. Just because Obi Wan says something doesn't make it true. Maybe he's remembering the Clone Troopers he fought alongside before going into hiding.
apparently stormtroopers have better accuracy than navy seals and hit 77% of shots unless its a main character
Chuck Norris vs Galactic Empire
Darth Sidious used force lighting on Chuck but after 5 days off agonising pain Chuck finally stopped laughing and punched Sidious's head off literally lol.
Chuck Norris roundhouse kicks the death star onto vader
Chuck Norris roundhouse kicks the star wars galaxy into an even larger galaxy and it's torn to bits.
Robert Williams there has only ever been two people that won against chuck Norris. Bruce lee. And mr Rogers in his blood stained sweater.
guarantee they'll miss even at point blank range
The Thing Vs. The Death Star
No
British Empire
What do u mean "no"?
I mean The Thing would be able to mask its presence in the force
How?
The Thing can perfectly mimic every aspect of its victim
Lot of assumptions made in this. Like A: If there were witnesses to the chestbusters, then any security would be looking for a small creature.....probably something they would not deem as a high threat. Use the first Aline movie as an example, the captain goes into the ducts looking for a small creature, and dies because of it, even though he was armed. B: Those ships are massive, there would be thousands of personnel that would NOT be armed, easy targets. Much like an aircraft carrier, almost no one is armed, unless they are being boarded, or in a battle. C: You assume they would go into a security lock down because you know what the Alien is and can do, they do not. D: The Aliens would likely take up residence near the reactor, which would be a high radiation area, and likely the last spot they would look. Take the movie Aliens as an example, they only found the colonists due to locators implanted in each colonist. Then, while in the reactor, they could not use their primary weapons due to the risk of setting off a chain reaction and causing a Nuclear explosion.....combine that with the fact that storm troopers are crappy shots. E: Assuming that blasters, or a lightsaber would cauterize a carapace.....they do NOT have tissue, they have a carapace similar to insects, that would likely NOT cauterize to the effect that you mentioned, so acid becomes yet another problem. This is a fun hypothetical video, but you should probably take ALL factors into account. With Vader on board yes, they have better chances. But you are assuming he would be able to sense the Aliens in a way he is familiar with. According to lore, force sensitives can sense droids. They sense them by movement. They also sense feelings. If we go on the literature as well, and Vader senses both the movement, and feelings, the aliens in novelization are written as being full of hatred and rage.....sound familiar. Vader would likely be more intrigued, and likely would want to capture or learn about the Aliens, not destroy them.
thank you i was gonna comment the same set of things i was thinking and even brought up a thing i never would have the fact that since aliens are full of hate and anger vader would likely want to study them.
I doubt they would have even made it onto the ship, highly unlikely they would have ignored protocol, especially with Vader on board
"Full of hate and rage"... That's like saying that army ants are full of hate and rage when they tear apart a larger insect to consume. Novelizations are just that, novelizations. If you look at a xenomorph, purely on an biological level, while they are highly intelligent individually, save for queens, they show no level of empathy whatsoever, and it can be argued that the one instance of a xenomorph queen showing empathy at all, was do in no small part to being a hybridized version of a queen (Thanks to Ripley being reconstituted/cloned in Resurrection). I would hazard, xenoporphs in general would be "force-blind" like a good few aliens in the star wars Lore are.
That being said, while Eckart seems to have a raging hard on for everything star wars, I do have to tend to agree, against a competent, "shoot first" military organization like the Galactic Empire, 5 xenos on a star destroyer would not fair well at all, namely, because of those hamster droids that you see on nearly every single empire ship. If memory serves, generally speaking, they act as a means of internal reconnaissance, and given they are droids, are far more observant to their surroundings that troopers or even general crew, it would honestly not take terribly too long for actively hostile, potentially lethal proto-aliens to be found and destroyed. Also, given the sheer size of the ship, having bio-acid splatter a corridor or two would hardly be enough to do any lasting harm to the ship itself.
@@dapperspider3766 Full of hate and rage is a cannonized part of the alien biology from the book Sea of Sorrows. Biologically speaking, they are science fiction creatures, and are whatever the books and movies say they are. If you're into the alien franchise I highly encourage reading it. There were 3 books cannonized. 1 details what happens to Ripley between Alien and Aliens, she doesn't just float in space (Out of the Shadows), Sea of Sorrows revisits that same planet, and River of Pain details what happens to Hadleys Hope prior to the events in Aliens.
Two things I would like to add, if memory serves, stormtrooper armor was resistant to corrosive acids. Not acid proof, but resistant. Another thing is that we know the yuuzhan vong could not be sensed through the force, it would be interesting to see this matchup done with Vader on the ship but the Xenomorphs cannot be sensed through the force.
A Predator from Predator vs 5 storm troopers
Cinnamon toast gaming Oh god we would lose 5 brave Stormtroopers that day.
Darth Sargoth Predator vs. Elite from Halo.
Only five? Seriously? The predator stomps easily, no question
Spartan Abrams do some research and you will find out stormtroopers are way more skilled than you think.
Simon Rozze which doesn't matter because yautjas have taken bullets to the face,their arm cut off and more. They have stealth camo and this is not even counting the dark horse comics.
Just a couple, not so quick, remarks.
I imagine that the Empire would probably not have waited for the facehuggers to fall off on their own, and would have terminated the storm troopers in question, once it was determined they couldn't remove the facehuggers without killing the troopers.
I recall there was reference to the character whose arm was cut off in the Mos Eisley Cantina was a creature with a circulatory system similar, i believe, to that of an arachnid which involved pockets of 'blood', not simply veins and arteries wrapped in soft tissue, in which case the entire pocket would be breached, and there is no tissue to cauterize over the wound. If this is correct, the cauterizing of a lightsaber may still be valid. Note the Wampa when it's arm was cut off, there was no blood spray, nor was there blood coming out of its severed arm when it bounced on the ground, also when Anakin and Luke each lost a hand (and Anakin lost more than that) there was no blood spray, which again supports the cauterizing effect of the lightsaber.
(Although the explanation from Mos Eisley may have been retcon, due to a desire to explain absence of blood later)
Scott Burton that makes a lot is sense. Thanks dude.
There's no actual cauterizing a xenomorphs wounds though. Their blood is highly pressurized and meant to spray out, burn tissue won't hold it and they aren't made out of... "Flesh" so to speak.
i dont think theyd just kill expensive trained and long time tank reared clones, i think theyd put them back to work and not notice til a guy passed out...nostromo in the med bay
The scene that first teaches us about the acid blood in the alien species was a laser scalpel cutting into a facehugger.
Not mention the pressurized internals of Xenomorphs...
Also, laser weapons and the like have been used against xenomorphs and as far as I know have never been known for "cauterizing" anything.
Twilight Gardens presentations their not clones...
Interesting match-up idea! I think ultimately the best cinematography would be the steam-filled egg hatchery presided over by the waiting queen - and then the bulkhead door wooshes open. Darth Vader stands silhouetted in the light from the hallway. He takes in the scene slowly breathing steadily. His light saber activates and he advances toward the mother and her brood.
I think something you've overlooked is that the Xenos don't need to use Stormtroopers as their hosts. There's 27'850 enlisted personnel, and 9'235 officers aboard the ship that all don't wear full body armor. More than 37'000 juicy unarmored potential hosts to drag off into their hive. As for where they could put their hive, there are hundreds, if not thousands of areas on a Star Destroyer that are just empty save for a conduit running through them, or a capacitor bank or coolant pump, and aside from a few techs who would make a tasty meal, or a decent host, nobody goes in there.
That said, as soon as the Xenos emerge, anyone who sees it would trigger an alarm. Unknown alien parasites are loose aboard ship. Initiate full containment lockdown.
Obviously, as they do, the Xenos escape said lockdown and find a quiet place to start a hive. Soon they start dragging people back to said hive, and after a while the crew discovers that containment is breached, and the creatures have changed. And that they're more dangerous. And that they're multiplying, and hiding in the walls and ducts and maintenance areas. Time for a bug hunt.
Areas near the sightings of the Xenos are evacuated of non-combat personnel, stormtroopers armed with repeaters and flame weapons move in, clearing section by section. Engagements usually start by a hidden Xenomorph impaling a trooper between the armor plates, but as they move in squads, the others hit the Xeno with blasters and fire. One particularly unlucky squad is completely overpowered by a cross between a Xenomorph and a Dianoga. But, after taking significant casualties, the hive is eradicated.
The ship takes some moderate damage from a number of occasions that resulted in acid blood breaching conduits and destroying parts of systems. Also, the ship is kept on high alert, and all personnel are issued sidearms, and work in pairs, for several days of quarantine. During which time, the Destroyer itself is used to vaporize the entire area where the infection was first picked up, blasting the planet's surface from orbit.
It's the only way to be sure.
Also: Mouse Droids. with a clever captain or maintenance officer employing them in the search there is a good chance they can help track down the xenos early on. Definately will be able to locate the queen later on.
chest busters are cunning, stealthy, have acid, and grow to adult size in hours, those mouse droids are screwed
Twilight Gardens presentations that's not the point, they have scanners and visual sensors, so they can locate them easily and a squad can be sent in
Not to forget that Xenomorphs tend to completely ignore non-organic life.
lek1223 You're the only person I've found to have said this. Also, the Empire has in their arsenal probe droids like the one that found the rebel base on Hoth. Though lightly armed, it's sensors should be able to locate the alien hive and it's ability to hover will allow it access to hard to reach areas. Also, the aliens would probably ignore droids for the most part since they don't put out a pheromone that would designate it a threat to the aliens. Until the droid opens fire on an alien, then the hive would react.
The team would be ambushed in the ducts and disappear. Nice try. Never explore the tunnels. Xeno wins.
So basically the xenomorphs get every possible break, advantage, circumstance, and boost to set this up. And see if they win. Still not going to win. Even if the queen gets away to lay eggs, hundreds of them. That is a warship, not a rattle trap abused space freighter with a skeleton crew. A SD carries thousands of troops in environmental, armored suits. And has thousands more crew that can be armed. Not to mention it is compartmentalized for battle which means that it in fact can seal off areas of the ship air tight and contain the threat.
Not to mention howd the face huggers infect them in the first place its a hell of a stretch
@@rogerburns8478 I had thought of that, but I figured Eckhart decided that at least 5 of them were stupid enough to remove their helmets and ignore the possibility that these pods that are scattered everywhere around them might in fact be spore producers that could infect them with something. Which has happened in legends before. But like I said, every possible thing given to them.
You want to get right down to it though. The advanced medical facilities on a Star Destroyer are so much better than the garbage bucket ship they had in the first Alien movie that it might as well be magic medicine that could easily remove the face hugger and embryo that has been implanted. Then have the trooper back on their feet in under 3 days. And that's with 2 days in the bacta tank.
Xenomorphs are more stealthy & cunning than you gave them credit for.
A Queen can lay Dozens of eggs in under 30 minutes. And drones can move the eggs to populated areas of the ship most likely the crew's sleeping quarters.
Xenomorphs are known to sabotage important systems no matter how complex the tech is like almost instinctively.
I will say "IF" the ship can be completely combed in the first 24 hrs the xenos could be wiped out, maybe. But with 10 of thousands troopers as you said, 2 here 3 there wouldn't be noticed fast enough. Xenomorphs don't drag prey Willy nilly through hallways were God & anybody else can see. They snatch into darkened corridors & ventilation. Most likely the engineering staff & maintenance crews will be first victims as they work in the bowels of the ship & will be easy pickings.
Droids aren't necessarily safe or the keys to victory as comics & lore show that a xeno will destroy one if it is seen as a threat or hindrance ( ask Bishop ).
We all know Stormtroopers aren't the best shots (to put it nicely) & are prone to fits of panic in the presence other intimidating aliens.
But Vader does pose a serious threat in the early to mid portions of this infestation. If he can sense them & takes the threat seriously I'm sure he'll take a hands on approach once it's quickly made clear the STs can't handle it. At that point I'll give that the 6 or more Xenos would be dealt with or captured?
But if not, I still see Darth Vader fighting back to his Tie Fighter & escaping the hoard.
This would be a horror movie for poor, defenceless xenomorphs. What did they ever do to you?
Vil Rovner you wildin....this a horror movie for star wars fans EVERYWHWRE. We hate storm troopers but to WATCH them suffer this fate? That's cold...even for me
xenomorphs beat the predator, ewoks beat the stormtroopers
Twilight Gardens presentations That's true
Twilight Gardens presentations Actually predators destroyed xenos. Especially in the second avp. That predator wrecked them left and right.
Vil Rovner ii
*NECRONS VS FORERUNNERS*
*I'M REALLY ANGRY RIGHT NOW*
ANGRY MARINE Forerunner stomp... even war in heaven necrons don't stand much of a chance... unless C'tan is with them...
lmao with C'tan they might have a chance but kinda doubt it the forerunners are OP as fuck lol the Necrons have nothing good lol.
Sagrotan It's obvious you know little of Halo. Let me educate you... The flood we seen in the games are just at their infant stage. They've literally started from scratch (as spores). The flood we see during the forerunner era, which are 4 stages ahead of the game flood, (also known as the Silentium flood) had thousand of planet size Gravemind capable of reality warping and even infecting space-time just by standing there to prevent slipspace travel for the forerunners. They had thousands of Star Roads, night indestructible cables made of neural physics several AU long, capable of slicing planets like salami and crushing stars and destroying star system (they could also move planets and stars with it and given enough time the entire galaxy). They also had the logic plague that is capable of hacking even the most advanced forerunner Ai ( which its tech is light years ahead than anything in Wh40k).
On top of that, they had trillions upon trillions of infected forerunner warrior servants (a single warrior servant could solo at least 10 space marines), millions of war sphinx ( forerunner combat mech suit which are comparable to the Primarchs) and countless forerunner ships in their arsenal. Forerunner military Space Ships where at minimum planet busters, like the forerunner cruisers, and at maximum star busters ( like the 100km long fortress-class vessel)
Hell, the forerunners even had to blow up entire star systems as conventional means to try and slow down the Silentium flood ... And it didn't work.
Source: Halo Forerunner trilogy series (books)...
Edit: And the silentium flood would shitstomp even a united Tyranid hive fleet.
Also here's a forerunner feat thread since I'm too lazy to explain how powerful the forerunners where...forums.spacebattles.com/threads/forerunner-feat-thread.236388/
+TurtleOver Lord, you forgot to mention in the 1000+ year period the flood were gone they conquered several nearbye galaxies to use as invasion forces and as far as we know they could have taken over the entire universe except the milkyway and we know that at least some species in halo are far more advanced than anything in 40k cause the precursers had already seeded and created an infinite amount of galaxies before the milly way and that means that their are empire in halo that are atleast 100+ trillion years old so just think about it.
I think your assessment is spot on. The Empire has the home ground advantage, armaments that nullify the strengths of the aliens (you could have also mentioned that ammo wouldn't be a problem like it was for the marines), and the overwhelming ability for the empire to control its ship.
How wouldn't ammo be a problem?
@@FreakingSpies Seconded. Power packs do run dry. Ammo isn't unlimited in Star Wars.
@@erynncollier8672 wouldn't run out nearly as fast though.
I feel like you forgot to mention the ambush tactics that aliens employ when hunting in confined areas as well as their ability to impregnate off of both living and dead hosts as long as the body isn't badly damaged, getting a mini-mouth through the brain keeps the core body intact. Next you also need to evaluate the most ideal locations for an alien hive to set up and that would be either the trash area, due to similar conditions as the reactor/engineering level of the terraforming facility, or the engineering level of the star destroyer due to being a strong parallel to the terraforming facility on lv426.
When you factor in the intelligence of the queen guiding her forces, like in comics, its highly likely that the hive could easily have 8 to 9 aliens before a major threat is assessed. Due to the way aliens hunt they would be perfect at accumulating many bodies to produce numbers until the ship is locked down however even when that happens the aliens could over come that based off of messing with the power and being in the engineering level of the ship.
I feel a lot of things were excluded or glossed over and thus the aliens werent given the proper chance to actually "play" in this mock battle.
Copied comment from Geomanzing.
You mentioned droids, but only in terms of combat. Droids would be extremely useful in finding zenomorphs. Mouse droids could do searches of areas that would be difficult for humans to access, r2 types have sensors other than heat detection that would allow them to find/detect zenomorphs easily at significant distances.
Star destroyers also have interior anti personnel installations which would help shut down zenomorph infestations.
Plastoid armor is more than likely to be non reactive to xeno acid. And plastoid armor has a lot of bounce thus tail piercing or biting into the armor may not be possible. Thousands of alien species has been subjugated by the empire, so the if the xenos cannot be put on leash , then they are destroyed. And yes , all the mouse droids on board a star destroyer would have scans for un authorized life forms on board. And yes ,the empire has so many troopers that they just incinerate the infected. And yes, Jubba the hut eats young xenos as we do gummy worms! Star Wars is too alien rich so this is an easy topic to cover. Point being said here is that the worst thing in the universe, the past , present , and or future will still be humans.
I like and agree with this comment
Plastoid composite armor has been penetrated by inhumanly strong species with primitive spears (no not the Ewoks). The Xenomorph tail and teeth, as well as its high strength would be in that category. Storm trooper armor would provide a bit of resilience, but a determined xenomorph would peel the armor off like opening a tuna can. The xenomorph would not need to penetrate the armor to kill in any event. Something that strong just backhanding a storm trooper would snap his neck. Something an unarmed Wookie could do. Armor is great, but it is not all powerful.
Are you serious? Teddy bears with sticks and stones were able to kill the storm troopers even with their armour.
Not to mention that the teeth of the Xenos are metallic in nature.
Cuban CigarMan hater
Vader could single handedly take on the Xenomorphs Queen. He could just force choke her, that's it, done. No alien could sneak up on him, he could sense it. Even if they where all attacking him he could take them on, not as easily, but still, he could to it.
Stamatis Zygas they don't breath air so he can't really "choke" them.He would certinly take care of them with ease. But i'am not sure he can sence them since they are not part of the force.
Stamatis Zygas obi one did not sence the zombiefied insect things under ground in geonocis or the queen who was in charge of the hive mind.
Rune Thief true but since they lack any connection to the force it's possible he could sense them based on the lack of force in space the take up
Actually, Xenomorphs are much more dangerous to Vader than you might think. If Xeno would come into contact with a lightsaber, its blood would turn into gas in a split second. And since gas takes up more place that liquid, Xeno would literally explode into an acid mist that would melt everything, Vader wouldn't survive. Don't use lightsabers against Xenomorphs!
Valters plume, ever heard of force push or lightsaber throw? Yeah any jedi or sith can use those powers
The stormtroopers would probably fare better as their helmet will offer protection against being quickly overcome by a facehugger. Although facehuggers would excrete acid to burn through the stormtrooper’s helmet as evidenced by how the one that attached itself to Kane melted through his helmet to get to his face. However, stormtroopers typically do not operate alone and would receive help from their squad mates. Note how easily the facehugger was prevented from attaching itself to Ripley in the medical bay in Aliens. All it took was the presence of others to pry it off.
I think if it was a wider variety of "aliens" it could be a more fair battle, using more of the many species of xenos.
Predator Vs Arbiter
Matt B tie.
I'd give it to the Arbiter, Arbiters have shown to usually have unparalleled skill with energy swords and energy swords have been shown to cut through metal so
preadator have auto aiming gun
Arbiter is relentlessly bigger and stronger and has shields and shoots 50 caliber radioactive isotope rounds and super heated plasma and has shields and gun run fast like a horse and has amazing speed and agility and can kill something weighing 1000 pounds aka the brutes.
Matt B arbiter he has a energy sword and that can one shot the predator I love the predator to
Xenomorph:*sees Vader
Xenomorph: run
Towards him.
Vader : Why are you running
@@shotguntony4730 And than vader just kill him before the xeno even able to reach him and than he laugh and walk away
“Darth Vader himself is aboard this star destroyer”
Xenomorph: *”Why do I hear boss music?”*
Empire with ease. A small group of Colonial Marines walking into an ambush and defending a room smashed them. Just have the troopers move in 8 man squads conducting sweeps and sealing off areas as they go. Shafts vents and maintenance access can be seal with a portable kinetic shield generator. All non combat personnel hold up in large secure halls with 15-20 trooper guards. recon orbs can scout ahead and astromech droids can deploy there vast array of sensors. One of those being motion.
Who wins in a fight between Xenomorphs and a combat ready Star Destroyer?
Easy, whoever the writer wants to win.
unless it's a Choose Your Own Adventure book :P that would actually be kinda cool
The Dalek Empire vs The Galactic Empire. Or, could the Imperial fleet at Endor Invade/destroy Gallifrey.
I don't think enough numbers were ever given in Doctor Who for the Battle of Gallifrey for a good comparison.
I think he said a billion billion
Johnny Kilroy YES YES YES
neither of those is very fair the daleks will batter the Empire very very easily with probably 0 losses
+Ovin
The Ninth Doctor said the fleet was composed of 10 milion Dalek kill-cruisers which housed (more or less) the entire Dalek race.
In the early days of the galactic empire, there were still clones dressed as storm troopers from the clone wars thus they would be stronger and more experienced thanks to their genetics from the original jango fett genes. Would that mean the xenomorph will be genetically stronger than the average xenomorph because of the clone DNA?
Star Destroyer personnel probably have detection devices and containment protocols for this type of foreign threat.
Generations of being spacefarers definitely give the stormtroopers an advantage.
Plus imperial ships are very well lit and spaces are easily compartmentalized.
Chimera (Resistance) vs Locust (Gears of war)
HipHopopotamus not even a contest locust win
Xenomorph VS the borg.
Also you forgot that xenomorphs are attracted to reactors on ships because of their cooling systems. This is where they would build their nest and this could cause problems for the ship as storm troopers may not be able to reach it.
Louie Horwood I thought I was the only person thinking about the Reactor Core. I feel a connection. Peace.
Xenomorph cuz the borg nanites can't infect xenomorph due to the acid blood and the borg are weak against concrete/physical attack
I’m actually writing a short story about this! A borg drone gets facehugged and the chestburster emerges already assimilated. The “xenoborg” finds itself being controlled by two separate hive minds...
@@victorh5513 That's gotta be the most interestingly original thing I've read in months! Dude, finish that.
I dont think they could get there and mess with it without being spotted.
I think this depends heavily on the fact that they are aware of the alien presence right away. I think if they just started finding bodies with wholes in their chest it would be a different story.
Me: *reads title and immediately says:* "PFFTTTt... Hell no!"
I think you covered most of the bases quite well. The one thing that you didn't mention that could be a turning point for the Xenos is the damage their acid could do to the star destroyer. That was a key issue in the original Alien. Because the ship was a freighter and a cheaply maintained one at that, when the acid we see burned through the floor of the Med bay, it also burned through 3 other floors before it lost potency and did a tremendous amount of damage to the ship. It didn't look like much but in the story the damage was a lot more than a cosmetic hole that now allowed you to talk to someone on the deck below you. They were effectively blinded on 3 decks because of the damage done to the wiring (fibre optics, whatever they had). This caused corridor cameras to stop working and lights to become unreliable. The other problem is that human blood can be cauterized by lasers, this we know. Based on the scene from Alien, Xenos blood doesn't cauterize from the same wavelength of laser light that ours does. If that was the case, there would have been no blood spill on the floor in the first place. So while the stormtroopers are definitely better armed, their better weapons could make the whole situation much worse. Imagine if a shootout occurred and two more drones bit the dust but the damage their spilled blood caused succeeded in cutting power and lighting to half the ship. Now all the advantage is theirs. Add to that the possibility that at least a few sections would be holed to vaccuum requiring isolation protocols to be put in place to contain the ships atmosphere (giving the Xenos what they need more than anything; time and an isolated population to feed off of) and that the aliens tend to instinctively pick the most sensitive areas to set up their nests. We also again and again have no understanding of their biology. "20 cannisters of CN 20...nerve gas the whole...nest" "Worth a shot but we don't even know if it's going to affect them" Taking this into account could make the fight a lot more on the Xenos side.
Michael Chiarcos I hope you can see my response. I echo many of your thoughts on this subject boss.
"Vader would be able to sense them with the Force."
Unless of course Xenos don't have midichlorians. Remember; a lack of connection to the Force made the Yuuzhan Vong difficult for Jedi to fight for QUITE a while; until the learned to look for *holes* in the ambient Force energy of a location.
Vader would still help the Imperials stomp, but it wouldn't be quite as onesided; as it might be possible for a Xeno to take Vader by surprise.
Xenomorphs take on the attributes of the living beings they grow off of. In this case beings with midichlorians. They would infact have it and could have a connection to the force.
Doubt it the second a xeno shows itself they will die
RaginDXDemon Xeno Jedi?
they can probably find the xeno hive by scanning for the trapped stormtroopers...
@Captain Caveman i mean you do know that in the books stormtroopers are actually very lethal warriors. It even explains in one of the books that the reason the stormtroopers didnt hit the gang in the new hope was so tgey could be lead to yavin. Hell in the books clone and stormtrooper armor can actually stop multiple rounds of blasterfire.
Just what the galaxy needs. The Empire with a new bioweapon.
Like you said, I really think the outcome hinges upon the nature of the hive location. If its cloistered (which the xenos seem to have an affinity for sussing out), or has limited access routes, the xenos might have the means to ambush the limited number of stormtroopers funneled into such a chokepoint. Spare xeno drones would meanwhile make use of such a ship's vast ductwork to consistently snatch hosts from seemingly secure locations and bolster their population. From that point, Id forsee a tipping point in numerical advantage, and a territorial hemorrage occur. Short of Vader walking into the hive to kill the queen personally, I think its more likely that he'd leave the ship, then scuttle and destroy it. Whether stowaway xenos leave with his ship would depend on the nature of the force detecting them.
One big benefit I could see for the empire, though, is if they have another warship nearby during the beginning stages of the infestation. Should they recognize the location of the hive, they could perform a "surgical" barrage on that compartment were it on the exterior face of the ship.
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I would also question Vader's ability to sense the xenos. They're not like normal animals, they lack emotions, running on pure instinct. Between that and the fear that would begin to take the crew, I think he'd have a hard time pinpointing individual xenos, maybe he'd have a better chance finding the queen. But if she'd have set up in, or the infestation had disabled, the reactor and thus the ship becomes harder to traverse, I think they'd have a better chance than Eck proposes.
Also, because this is a sci-fi mashup. The audience would already know the separate universes and would know how the chestbursters work. I think that one of the stormtroopers would go to an infirmary, he'd be on an examination table/bed, but the doctor would step out and the xeno would burst through his chest without any witnesses. I think that the crew should be unaware until the xenos have matured and begin to take their first few victims.
@@TheSchnieder6 to be honest even if he couldn't sense the through the force the force and his suit give him extremely hightend senses so the odds of one getting the drop on him is practically 0 either way not to mention they are slower than Vader in every mesurable way and since his suit took a direct blast from hans heavy blaster pistol which is essentially compressed super heated plasma I doubt the acid blood even bieng a factor
It is utterly crucial for any spaceship, especially a warship to be very compartmentalized. Any part of the ship must be able to be sealed off from the rest of the ship in case of decompression. There cant be a universal duct system or at least not one that cant be compartmentally sealed against hard vacuum. Essentially the strictures of warfare in vacuum preclude any open air or maintenance network that the critters could freely exploit.
Well I agree to an extent, but this ship has Vader on it, so he is not left alone for the most part due to he has the shadow guard ((Not counting the 501st due to them not always going with Vader)) and they are also force sensitive, so they also have a good chance, and force sensitives can sense things around them, therefore it would be much harder to be ambushed, also lots of star destroyers of this size have death troopers as well which are very trained, skilled, and hard to kill. This fight is a little hard to do with Vader on their side due to him being one of the most powerful sith in the entire galaxy, also their technology was much more advance. Another thing is that the Imperials often don't help injured troopers because in their eyes they have failed the empire, making it unlikely for them to even be back on the ship, because their body would just stay on the battlefield.
one major problem for the xenos is that basically everywhere in a star destroyer is brightly lit unlike the places in the alien movies
which would make sneaking up on anyone really hard.
actually if you discount plot armor and the fact that they had orders to let them escape storm troopers have much better kill ratios then the rebels, the best example is the beginning of episode 4 where the kill ratio is like 3 or 4 to 1 and if you read the books their track record is even better.
also every shot with a blaster on medium to high settings is the equivalent of the plasma guns the predators use.
here watch this and as a meme it was funny about thirty years ago its so cliche it needs it own catagory =]
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It's because of the Force, remember the scene in Rogue One where Chirrut (a force sensitive) actively dodge blaster fire despite being blind instead of just standing still, and walk through Deathtroppers (basically Navy SEALS of the Empire) fire unharmed during Scariff battle.
"As the Force wills it"
We don't talk about that film
Aliens, don't have flesh that cauterizes when exposed to flame or heat, just an exoskeleton of chitinous armor. so the acid blood would completely stay an issue. i could go on but this is an old vid.. thanks you for the work! 8D
Nice catch
I agree with your conclusions. The initial situation puts things very much in the Empire's paper. I'd be interested in your thoughts on a squad of stormtroopers or death troopers dealing with the situation found in Aliens. Actually, what would be even cooler would be to replace the marines in aliens with the clone troopers known as the Bad Batch.
I also loved your analysis of the Iron Giant vs. the Imperial forces at the Battle of Hoth. I'd be interested in seeing that same Imperial force attempt to take Hong Kong with resistance from the Chinese military and the jaegers: Crimson Typhoon, Cherno Alpha, and Striker Eureka. The jaegers are much bigger than the Giant but seem to have much less firepower, especially in terms of Ranged weapons.
I'd love to see a match between a technomage from the Babylon 5 universe against a Jedi. Since each would fluctuate a lot by individuals, I'll suggest Galen vs Asoka Tano at her power levels from season 6 of Clone Wars.
Finally, I'd like to get your thoughts on the Andromeda Ascendant, fully crewed vs. an ISD, and would also love to know how you evaluate the various slip-fighters Andromeda can deploy.
Could you do xenomorgh vs flood plz I think it would be cool to think about
Flood would win, xenomorphs would have trouble taking over the flood and the flood would likely have little problem consuming the xenomorphs.
With or with out a steady food/incubator supply for the flood/xenomorph?
Admiralkoerner I agree the flood is on another level.
Admiralkoerner Yes but if it consumes acid then it's dead.
I dont think either one would win... They'd both be trying to assimilate the other, and we'd end up with an amalgamation of both in the end, regardless of who started it
Wraith (Stargate) vs Galactic Empire (Star Wars)
BC-304 Daedalus-class Battlecruiser (Stargate, post-Unending, No ZPM) vs Imperial Escort Fleet (Star Wars)
Plot twist, Vader is infected
Xenomorph: *throw stormtrooper 5 feet into the air.*
Stormtrooper: AAAAAHG!!
Xenomorph: *eats stormtrooper*
Stormtrooper: AAAAAGH wait that's not in the script !
clone commandos vs spec ops elites
Spartan Abrams Clone Commandos casually dominate.
I dunno, Clone commandos didn't exactly have the armor or enhancements of Chief, I mean they were top notch for sure, but not quite Chief to my understanding. Furthermore, the elites had shields and cloaking. I think it is worth a video.
can't shoot what you can't see
futbolluva But clone huds might detect them
Harrower Class Dreadnought VS Venator Class Star Destroyer
Venator would win easily, it's both larger and more advanced.
Every alien parasite gangsta until Vador starts to chop their hosts up
Darth vader by himself could take a planet size infestation anytime
How about we do the Predators from AVP versus the Wookiees. They are both large-imposing alien creatures that are very intelligent and physically powerful.
Yes but the Predators are Hunters and are bound by honor the only way that would happen is if it's Super Predators as they are bound by no honor code but thier much more powerful then the regular Predators and are the strongest Predator Clan they have dishonorable tactics and are considered bad bloods infact normally if you're sick unarmed injured, or a kid you won't have to worry about a Predator killing you but with super Predators they don't care they will kill any one and anything they want and take its head as a trophey which is considered dishonorable.
Predators stomp
Spartan Abrams
I wouldn't be so sure. The Predators always seem to end up getting killed, wether that is by the aliens (which they are there to kill) or by regular humans.
Also, the wookies are from a death world, where things like predators hunt them all the time. I wouldn't say the Wookies are going to wreck the Predators or anything like that, but I think they might fair better than you'd think at first glance.
The Queen could hide in the main trash compactor since we see that they're pretty big
What happens to the queen when the compactor starts compacting?
It's really not the safest place to hide.
actually the main trash compacter has a misleading name as it doesn't compact trash it's the thing that dumps it into space lmao so the queen would still be fucked.
EeveeThe Everything and CRUSH HER!!!
That would be the biggest fuck up ever because after they crush that Queen gallons of acid would create many large hull breaches around the ships interior.
She could also hide in one of the many cargo area's which generally are deserted. And if the tentacle monster thing is capable of finding a place to survive multiple trash compaction... A Xenomorph sure as hell will. And they can survive while submerged indefinitely. Anything its able to get down into would likely be ripped open unless that creature was seriously small, which id didn't seem to be.
Also, the vacuum of space doesn't necessarily bother Xenomorphs either, they're very pressurized and can survive fine. If the queen in Aliens for instance was on the main deck when the airlock was opened she would have been able to just lock her claws down onto the plating. If given time, she can construct a nest to stay in. Etc. But the main trash compactor (which doesn't crush) actually isn't her only nesting ground. One of the many cargo holds in the area, detention blocks that aren't used while there are prisoners, myriad of spots on a star destroyer that aren't patrolled regularly.
Surprised one thing you didn't mention was the fact Stormtroopers almost never take off their helmets, unless face huggers got jumps on unaware troopers, they'd have a difficult time impregnanting anybody with a helmet.
Or how did the xeno break thru the chest armour. Difficult if armoured. Less so if the s troopers were out of thier armour. .. this is a random reply since I jus found this clip for the first time btw
Imagine if a inquisitor got infected
Halo 4 Mammoth vs. 5 AT-AT's
as long as the mammoth can keep moving it can pull it off
Considering it has wheels and not legs and the turret can turn around it's got speed and range and can fire well retreating
Thanks for the ideas, maybe more AT-AT'S?
maybe 50 cause then the UNSC has to rely on something other than mac like a single warthog to blow off the leg of an at-at.
"They can whip it out at a moment's notice and its powerful enough to lift a predator"
Sounds so wrong.
Chris Hansen: That's now how 'To Catch a Predator' is supposed to work...... _but it is satisfying._
Stormtroopers might be perfect for fighting a zombie apocalypse. Armor and even body glove would be tooth 🦷 proof. Their blasters would be more efficient than regular guns. Accuracy isn’t as important with zombies as with moving targets at a distance fighting back.
There is a reason Alien was set on a military installation. Once the creature is discovered, there would be a systematic search and elimination. The crew of the Nostromo would have made relatively short work of the Xenomorph if they had firearms.
Xenos would win because they always attack from the high ground.
Veritech Girl finally, someone thought about tactics.
Veritech Girl how could you obtain high ground in the close confines combat of inside of a star destroyer??
What I see is SW fans protecting their fav brand. Xenomorph attack from ceilings and floors. The xenomorph will attack in a fashion that the empire has never seen.
1. Total Control: On Star destroyers there are 2 control rooms. If the main and secondary taken the ship is toast.
2. Power supply: If the Power Core is severely damaged by acid blood cutting through it the ship is deep.
3. Hunting: 30,000 personnel on board and 10,000 are combat personnel. That means there are 20,000 opportunities for xenomorph to snatch less armed personnel in less protected areas of the ship. More xenomorph to fight.
4. The Narrator is telling us xenomorph rely on sound smell and pheromones. Not just one of the senses. The pheromones would likely be used to communicate to other xenomorph territory and paths pack to the hive.
5. Reputation: Face it. I was a SW fan as a kid but the empire soldiers are not good fighters. Even with 10,000 soldiers they are fighting an enemy that could kill or maim five combatants at a time per one xenomorph kill (plus ship damage) if they engage improperly. Corrosive blood cutting through a pressurized container in space. The ship is damaged. Empire loses.
6. The Vader effect: I love DV, but he can't be everywhere at once. Platoons of troopers will be defeated in other areas of the ship without his help. Everyone is afraid to fail Darth Vader, but they will learn new fears hunting xenomorph when the lights go out. (Infrared doesn't work on Xeno). Casualties will be astronomical.
I love this debate because they movies raised me. Xenomorph will die but so does the ship.
Mike Werley xenomorph walk on walls and ceilings and strike from crawl spaces in the ceiling. They can also break through floors as displayed in their movies. Star destroyers and other SW ships will likely have very large crawl spaces to attack from.
Marcus Powell they can attack from ceilings and floors or wherever. There are roughly 10 thousand stormtroopers on board a star destroyer. They will be stationed on all decks and floors and on high alert. If the xenomorphs are in ducts or crawl spaces, they can use scanners to find them. They wouldn't be able to hide or get the jump on the empire if they know they are on board.