Great tips! At age 67, after having not played for 20 years and getting back into table tennis, I started taking coaching lesson. I knew my forehand needed work, but always thought I had a good backhand chop. My coach, however, kept telling me to "hold the ball on my paddle longer". Still didn't quite get it, but this video really helps! I need to follow through more in a downward angle instead of straight across the table. Thanks!
It's difficult to play against long pimples. I try to play no spin balls, varying with backspin balls. Long balls are also easier for choppers, so it's better to play short untill you have a good attacking position. Great video, Tom.
I would absolutely love to see some more videos from her, she is obviously extremely skilled with the defensive technique, I just got a new racket to try out defensive playing and tips of technique would be much appreciated! specifically racket angle, speed, body placement and footwork, and any differences between more glassy pimples versus more grippy pimples with some spin of their own.
Great video! So, this might be a strange idea but maybe you could make a video with her talking about the differences between short and long pip chopping? I don't think that the divergence between high-level Asian players using short pips and others remaining with long pips has been really explored yet and thus there are barely any tutorials for short pip chopping
@@TomLodziak Thanks! I only recently switched to short pips to give it a try and there are very few solid resources out there for them in general but especially for chopping. A few of the asian videos have subtitles available, however I find this shift in defensive style rather unexplored
Hi Tom, from time to time it is great to see that you can feature proficient players with Hungarian roots on your channel. Orsi, thank you for sharing your insights :) I hope, you could also share a few tips with us about different pimple geometries (e.g. horizontally vs. vertically arranged; widely vs. densely spaced pimples; topped conical vs cylindrical pimples) and different sponge thicknesses regarding practical playing properties I have tried both inverted and long pips chopping, also tried to practice long pips punch shots, but I have struggles with short and medium pips usage recently. It would be very interesting to see you using other pimple out rubbers as well.
She has different rubbers on either side. One side long pimples, the other side inverted. So she gets different effects depending on which side she uses. So she twiddles the bat to cause confusion.
Hey Tom, what about chopping with regular inverted rubber? Is it highly recommended to switch to long pips? I’d prefer NOT to switch. Would love to hear your thoughts, thanks
great video as always!! always a go to channel if i need to learn more skills. a quick question though, can you make a video on how to attack with long pips or when to attack as a defensive player?
Yes, I will have a video on attacking with long pips coming at some point. I have filmed the footage already with Orsi. Just in a long queue of videos to edit.
I don't want to be a chopper, but I will mix in a backhand chop if out of position. So I'm not chopping with long pips. Any special tips for chopping with inverted?
From my experience of chopping with both long pimples and inverted, the basic technique is essentially the same. With inverted I have to make sure I really brush the ball, otherwise it just flies too high and too long. With long pimples it is definitely easier.
(novice ? here). what is the difference between using a long pip rubber as she's doing here vs a soft (inverted) rubber for chopping? i ask because i'm considering a BH rubber that i can chop with AND be offensive with (for drives, smashes and flips). another ?. how do you adjust your chop stroke here if the incoming spin is backspin?
Hi Orsi and Tom …. Is this chopping technique only possible with long pimples. I use victas vo 102 short pimples on my backhand and I’m struggling to perfect the chopping technique. Please advise. Thanks… Ranjit
Hi, can Orsi advice, how the amount of spin that the opponent created affects the chop technique? what should I do if a flat ball comes from the opponent?
@Tom: in the video you go on offense (and respond with a topspin all the time). Have you tried to also push back with a backspin? Would this turn into a backspin rally - I wonder how would it finish(?) And would it give you an advantage (perhaps?) What's your feeling?
Oh definitely. This is the approach I usually take against long pimple defenders. I will topspin, when the ball is chopped back, I will usually push, and then wait for an easier ball to attack again. I find it hard to keep on attacking every ball, as demonstrated in the video. The backspin becomes too much for me to handle!
The blade is Butterfly BalsaCarbo X3 ALL+. I recognise the handle. My question is what is she using on the forehand side in order to do safe chops with that?
@@TomLodziak DHS TinArc 3 has a few different sponge hardnesses available - I am not sure about Chinese 33°, but there is definitely 35° and 37° (which is equivalent to 47° European hardness scale) - if Orsi uses 37°, then it is not the easiest rubber to use, but based on my experiences, it has a rather firm rubber topsheet, which feels very precise, when fast wrists and good technics are employed (one of the rather few examples of a Chinese manufactured DHS rubber being only grippy, and not tacky /GoldArcs are made by ESN/). Having a balsa blade under it (and a feather light long pips on the other side) definitely helps with the fast wrists (I wonder, what is the total weight of her racket).
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Great lesson from miss orzi ... As a chopper , who is currently playing , i am really happy and it is quite helpfull for me ❤❤❤
Great tips! At age 67, after having not played for 20 years and getting back into table tennis, I started taking coaching lesson. I knew my forehand needed work, but always thought I had a good backhand chop. My coach, however, kept telling me to "hold the ball on my paddle longer". Still didn't quite get it, but this video really helps! I need to follow through more in a downward angle instead of straight across the table. Thanks!
Not enough long pip vids out there for the average player. Keep 'em coming ❤ and thank you!
So cool! Thanks Orsi and Tom!
Great video, super helpful! I’m still developing my chop even though I’m an aggressive player. Tryna be more “complete” as a player
Thanks Tom and Orsi
It's difficult to play against long pimples.
I try to play no spin balls, varying with backspin balls. Long balls are also easier for choppers, so it's better to play short untill you have a good attacking position.
Great video, Tom.
Superb! Full of great tips. Thank you.
Dear Tom excellent video and Will appreciate more videos on defensive game. Keep It up! 👏👏🤟🤟👋👋
Thanks for this wonderful vidéo! Merci beaucoup from Québec, Canada. More please 😊
I would absolutely love to see some more videos from her, she is obviously extremely skilled with the defensive technique, I just got a new racket to try out defensive playing and tips of technique would be much appreciated! specifically racket angle, speed, body placement and footwork, and any differences between more glassy pimples versus more grippy pimples with some spin of their own.
I'll be releasing more videos with Orsi in the future and will cover some of these topics.
@@TomLodziak Can't wait!!!!! Thank you.
Great technical video and fantastic socks Tom!
thanks for the excellent demonstration and technique .. I will practice
This is great. Finally some defensive tips!! Just a quick question:
What kind of TSP CURL P1 rubber does she use => 0.5/1.0/1.5 or OX?
I think, It's 1,5 mm for the sound,
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally some chopping advice. Yuhuuuu
Thank you for tutorial.
It is very usefull for us to learn the technique how to chop correctly.
Good job in slow motion too 👍👍
Thanks Tom and Orsi. Great video and tips and nice socks too Tom! :)
Thanks for the video. Great tips and technique
Great camera work. Orsi is great as well.
Really wanna learn this chopping defense technique. Amazing. I really envy my other friends who can do this with ease. 😄😊
Great video! So, this might be a strange idea but maybe you could make a video with her talking about the differences between short and long pip chopping? I don't think that the divergence between high-level Asian players using short pips and others remaining with long pips has been really explored yet and thus there are barely any tutorials for short pip chopping
Interesting idea. I'll speak to Orsi about this. If it's a topic she has thoughts on, we can try to make a video.
@@TomLodziak Thanks! I only recently switched to short pips to give it a try and there are very few solid resources out there for them in general but especially for chopping. A few of the asian videos have subtitles available, however I find this shift in defensive style rather unexplored
Good afternoon Coach, I am Eko Uban from Jakarta-Indonesia, please allow me to ask, what rubber is used for both sides?
Thank You
Hi Tom, from time to time it is great to see that you can feature proficient players with Hungarian roots on your channel. Orsi, thank you for sharing your insights :) I hope, you could also share a few tips with us about different pimple geometries (e.g. horizontally vs. vertically arranged; widely vs. densely spaced pimples; topped conical vs cylindrical pimples) and different sponge thicknesses regarding practical playing properties I have tried both inverted and long pips chopping, also tried to practice long pips punch shots, but I have struggles with short and medium pips usage recently. It would be very interesting to see you using other pimple out rubbers as well.
Great sir
Beautiful movements, what rubber and blade are used, I'm interested in imitating your style
Should the ball be chopped at the peak of trajectory or just as it starts to decline?
During chopping what grip should use?
Awesome!
I am interested what kind of blade she uses... ?
Thanks! A great video!
One question. At 4:42 why she flipped her racket? What's the reason?
She has different rubbers on either side. One side long pimples, the other side inverted. So she gets different effects depending on which side she uses. So she twiddles the bat to cause confusion.
And thanks for the table tennis series at home
Hey Tom, what about chopping with regular inverted rubber? Is it highly recommended to switch to long pips? I’d prefer NOT to switch. Would love to hear your thoughts, thanks
You can chop with inverted too. It's a little harder to control the spin, but with good technique you can still do very heavy chops.
great video as always!! always a go to channel if i need to learn more skills. a quick question though, can you make a video on how to attack with long pips or when to attack as a defensive player?
Yes, I will have a video on attacking with long pips coming at some point. I have filmed the footage already with Orsi. Just in a long queue of videos to edit.
Is it better to use long pips on your back hand chop ?
I don't want to be a chopper, but I will mix in a backhand chop if out of position. So I'm not chopping with long pips. Any special tips for chopping with inverted?
From my experience of chopping with both long pimples and inverted, the basic technique is essentially the same. With inverted I have to make sure I really brush the ball, otherwise it just flies too high and too long. With long pimples it is definitely easier.
(novice ? here). what is the difference between using a long pip rubber as she's doing here vs a soft (inverted) rubber for chopping? i ask because i'm considering a BH rubber that i can chop with AND be offensive with (for drives, smashes and flips).
another ?. how do you adjust your chop stroke here if the incoming spin is backspin?
Her cute little sorries after very tactfully and strategically demolishing you. 😅
Было бы интересно узнать, как зовут девушку и какой у нее комплект в руках для игры.
Даешь продолжение!
Hi Orsi and Tom …. Is this chopping technique only possible with long pimples. I use victas vo 102 short pimples on my backhand and I’m struggling to perfect the chopping technique. Please advise. Thanks… Ranjit
You can use this chopping technique with short pimples or even inverted rubber.
Cool .!👍
Thank you for having female players on your videos 🙂
Sus
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Because that matters in what way? Only important to have good players who know the technique.
Such a weird comment lol
It gets even harder to stay in the rally when the defensive player is so consistent 🥵 😓
The information is really helpful. But might I ask. Long pips generate a lot more backspin. However is this shot still viable with a normal rubber.
Yes, you can chop with normal inverted rubber. The technique is similar, but you have to really make sure you brush the ball.
@@TomLodziak Thank you very much!
Hi, can Orsi advice, how the amount of spin that the opponent created affects the chop technique? what should I do if a flat ball comes from the opponent?
If it's a flat attack, you may need to chop under the ball more. If it's a heavy spin attack, you may need to chop down the back of the ball more.
I can finally play like Tsukimoto 🥺.
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You can really hear the chain mail ;-)
Ha! Yep, didn't notice at the time. I blame the film-maker for this (i.e. me).
@Tom: in the video you go on offense (and respond with a topspin all the time). Have you tried to also push back with a backspin?
Would this turn into a backspin rally - I wonder how would it finish(?) And would it give you an advantage (perhaps?)
What's your feeling?
Oh definitely. This is the approach I usually take against long pimple defenders. I will topspin, when the ball is chopped back, I will usually push, and then wait for an easier ball to attack again. I find it hard to keep on attacking every ball, as demonstrated in the video. The backspin becomes too much for me to handle!
What equipment she is using?
The blade is Butterfly BalsaCarbo X3 ALL+. I recognise the handle. My question is what is she using on the forehand side in order to do safe chops with that?
Orsi is using TSP Curl P1 on her backhand, DHS Tin Arc 3 on her forehand and the blade is Butterfly BalsaCarbo X3 ALL+
@@TomLodziak DHS TinArc 3 has a few different sponge hardnesses available - I am not sure about Chinese 33°, but there is definitely 35° and 37° (which is equivalent to 47° European hardness scale) - if Orsi uses 37°, then it is not the easiest rubber to use, but based on my experiences, it has a rather firm rubber topsheet, which feels very precise, when fast wrists and good technics are employed (one of the rather few examples of a Chinese manufactured DHS rubber being only grippy, and not tacky /GoldArcs are made by ESN/). Having a balsa blade under it (and a feather light long pips on the other side) definitely helps with the fast wrists (I wonder, what is the total weight of her racket).
how to rubber?
This video is incomplete without advice on blade and rubber choices for effective chopping 🤔
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Should get an oculus quest 2 and get the table tennis games
Incredible socks
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Не каждый сможет так играть, как она, далеко от стола, так как бегать сильно много надо.
Close your eyes and listen
This is not chop. This is defenceive techniques with pimples rubber...
Look at them legs... *Coughs* i am very sorry...
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