BattleTech Lore & History - Second Succession War: Ignition Point (MechWarrior Lore)

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  • @Tzilandi
    @Tzilandi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    "How do I restore my lost honor? Oh, I know!"
    - Chosokabe Motochika, before committing a warcrime.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Faking surrender is the only acceptable form of surrender for a true Kuritan.

    • @asgrahim9164
      @asgrahim9164 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Kurita moment

    • @nodu9303
      @nodu9303 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nothing worse in the IS than Davion...

    • @JohnDoe-sx6iw
      @JohnDoe-sx6iw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@nodu9303 only Capellans and Combine

    • @ulricgrey5219
      @ulricgrey5219 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nodu9303 nope.... IS clans...

  • @martinkafka9510
    @martinkafka9510 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Highlighting planets that are being talked about, correct label for chemical weapons, vertical map for Steiner/Kurita front - improvements all around for what was already top notch series.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Always trying to refine things and experiment a little with different formats to see what works.

  • @NotThereJustGone
    @NotThereJustGone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    And then, on the cusp of a second, needless calamity, the Lords of the Great Houses realized that another conflict was unnecessary because the real treasure were the friends they made along the way.
    The end.

    • @brandonclark435
      @brandonclark435 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Canopus has the best drugs.

    • @NotThereJustGone
      @NotThereJustGone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@brandonclark435 Where do you think I get the fever dreams of peace?

    • @oathbreakers
      @oathbreakers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll conquer you all with love and friendship

    • @RouterChain
      @RouterChain 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@oathbreakers AKA drugs

    • @NotThereJustGone
      @NotThereJustGone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oathbreakers Hey, you can't spell "friendship" without "fried nips."

  • @Jomisari77
    @Jomisari77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    17:48 "Mary's Little LAMs" XD
    Gotta appreciate merc humor.

    • @iller3
      @iller3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As someone who's seen Tons of PvP-Guild names over the years, I can vouch that his would be very Plausible in a futuristic setting

  • @devalk_
    @devalk_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The comstar meddling starts to really show
    What will those funny tech wizards come up with next

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      They aren't wizards just yet. Not long to go though before things get really wacky.

  • @elijahsnow3119
    @elijahsnow3119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    The first true Comstar War thus begins.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I definitely think of this one as "ComStar's War." Of course, that goes to a whole new level come 2837.

    • @elijahsnow3119
      @elijahsnow3119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@SvenVanDerPlank Exactly so. Thing is, it also shows that really 2-5 wouldn’t have been nearly as awful wars as they were without Comstar’s efforts to crush everyone back to the stone age.

  • @thedocklighter
    @thedocklighter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Have match, will strike.

  • @Autofire-nw5ty
    @Autofire-nw5ty 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I know nothing about Battletech. Only after watching a couple of live streams of Mercenaries last year I learned of the universe. You are teaching me the finer points and I love it!

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well I'm glad I've been able to teach you about some of the game's history.

  • @lorefox201
    @lorefox201 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    KURITA AT IT AGAIN
    THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Spoiler, they continued to keep getting away with it.

    • @lorefox201
      @lorefox201 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SvenVanDerPlank as they always do lmao

    • @JohnDoe-sx6iw
      @JohnDoe-sx6iw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SvenVanDerPlank Cause of their thic plot armor.

    • @AtreidesT660
      @AtreidesT660 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The thick plot armor is for the Wolfs and Black Watch. A Black Watch mech could take a 10 MT nuke to the head and not die. "Bruh they're just that awesome and kewl".😂

    • @AtreidesT660
      @AtreidesT660 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@SvenVanDerPlank you should shop in Heisenberg and weeping Jesse as opposing MechWarriors in the next vid just for the lulz 😁

  • @level98bearhuntingarmor
    @level98bearhuntingarmor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    4:16 only the dracs (and maybe capellans) would think fake surrendering would be honorable

    • @level98bearhuntingarmor
      @level98bearhuntingarmor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @SvenVanDerPlank still wished they took Tikonov though lol

  • @MLCrisis1790
    @MLCrisis1790 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Its amazing to think that the Inner Sphere united to fight the Clans but never realized that the greatest villains in history, arguably worse than Amaris and his goons, had been tolerated for centuries. And by the time they were confronted, it was too late and we had that wonderful warcrime-a-thon put on by WoB. Spot on, Great Houses...

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What's weird is that as we get further into the 2ndSW, certain Successor States do wise up to what's going on. But the consequences of calling them out on it end up being so dire they realise that as long as the war continues, it's better just to leave them alone. Course they probably didn't envision it going on for centuries.

    • @MLCrisis1790
      @MLCrisis1790 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SvenVanDerPlank Love them or hate them, Hanse Davion and Katrina Steiner did a lot to bring them down a few pegs. As well as a man named Frederick, of course...

    • @ryanshiver9044
      @ryanshiver9044 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Comstar are the good guys

    • @MLCrisis1790
      @MLCrisis1790 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ryanshiver9044 🤬

    • @ryanshiver9044
      @ryanshiver9044 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MLCrisis1790 Always pay your phone bill.

  • @SulliMike23
    @SulliMike23 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    These hotspots are just the beginning. But the Hesperus Battles will be the last time we see warships in use for the Inner Sphere before the Clans show up.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They've still got a few years in them yet. I was actually surprised to learn while doing my research that there were technically still a few left after LCS Invincible (not counting ComStar of course).

    • @jamesperkins191
      @jamesperkins191 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SvenVanDerPlankthey were mothballed iirc

  • @MechanicalFrog
    @MechanicalFrog 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Excellent presentation and fascinating content. Thanks for keeping this going, Sven!

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you MechFrog, I'm really pleased you're enjoying it.

  • @fredlandry6170
    @fredlandry6170 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m looking forward to a Fourth Succession War story, that’s one of my favorite conflicts.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We'll get there eventually. The 3rdSW may be much longer, but there's not so much to talk about until the 3000s, so we're much closer than it might seem.

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    AAaahh, I missed the live! Ah well.
    Also. Successor State logic: "Let's attack these guys over here at this border, so we can attack these OTHER guys over here at a different border!"

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Better to be openly at war with someone than having peace and risk them suddenly declaring war on you. Perfect Successor Lord Logic.

  • @dustandpolos8196
    @dustandpolos8196 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sounds like Comstar could consistently just focus stirring up trouble on the left side of the map where all the not-horrible people live; Davion and Kurita have never needed any excuse to kick off and randomly invade neighbours.

  • @sophia-helenemeesdetricht1957
    @sophia-helenemeesdetricht1957 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Jerome Blake: "You have to become a cult, it's the only way to maintain order throughout the inner sphere."
    Conrad Toyama: "What’s that? Become arguably the worst faction in the inner sphere?"
    JB: "No. What? No, I meant..."
    CT: "Can't hear you, I'm off to go kidnap and brainwash a noble, a thing whose repercussions I absolutely will not consider!"
    JB: *dies*

  • @potsperm1666
    @potsperm1666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jinjiro looks like a 60´s western actor for some reason :D
    btw thank you for your awesome work, great video!

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sounds like a classic case of 1980s BT art. It was the wild west back then in terms of quality/accuracy.

    • @potsperm1666
      @potsperm1666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SvenVanDerPlankTRUE! makes them even more gorgeous ^^

  • @Deadmeat313
    @Deadmeat313 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic stuff. Nice to see my homeworld of Tikonov getting a nice showing. 😊

  • @jasonfarley9025
    @jasonfarley9025 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another awesome video
    Thanks again for all your work
    A separate series or individual videos, later, focusing on some of these more interesting battles might be fun

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Something I plan to focus more on once we reach 3025 and beyond. We've got plenty maps for the 4thSW which I'd like to include.

  • @derekmccaig7645
    @derekmccaig7645 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i know these take time to make and i appreciate every second of that, but GD.... i want them all now!!! lol thank you for these videos!

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Working on them as fast as I can. If I can maintain this current pace, the series should be complete by the end of April.

  • @harvestblades
    @harvestblades 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now I want to hear about some of these detailed & legendary ground battles!
    Sources for some of the best to read about would be great!

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well obviously the biggest was the Battle for Terra which we did a 105 minute video on but there's others down the line we'll cover in similar detail. I'm not cutting anything quite as grand as that, it's just that usually there's a little more than I include on most of these battles. Far too little to make a video on, but often some specific quirk about the environment or defence that I gloss over.

  • @shawnarmitage7955
    @shawnarmitage7955 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God, guns, and Battletech. As someone who enjoys history, I look forward to your videos. Keep up the excellent work, my friend.

  • @mathewkelly9968
    @mathewkelly9968 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Marik's and joining ComStar ....... They never learn

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well this is the first real instance of that going wrong, but you're absolutely right. Despite the disastrous ramifications, two more Marik heirs would join before war's end.

  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Surrendering before dropping in forces to attack.
    Well at least it isn't Kentares again.

  • @wazup85
    @wazup85 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    another great one

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers, glad you enjoyed it.

  • @Rooftop_gaming
    @Rooftop_gaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love your work Sven.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, glad you enjoy it.

  • @ftako9028
    @ftako9028 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video as always. You can really see the passion you have for making these videos.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much, I really do enjoy making them.

  • @gregdomenico1891
    @gregdomenico1891 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And to think, Comstar continues to get away with this crap for another 200 years. As for the FWL/House Marik, their association with Comstar is really going to come back to bite them in the ass in the future.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ComStar has been messing with the Free Worlds League for centuries. Right through the 2ndSW and into the 3rd, not even mentioning everything that happens in the modern setting. They're more antagonistic than the neighbouring Successor States sometimes.

  • @ebla83
    @ebla83 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent work Sven! I would have watched this yesterday but I was busy chairing a seminar on international relations (I was at a distillery).

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That sounds like a fair excuse. I'll let you off this time.

  • @AtreidesT660
    @AtreidesT660 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey Sven, really good editing, really liked the small circular map over the image. It just works (couldn't help not quote Todd H😁) as a format. Just a question do you have the HBS game and have you considered using your game footage or screenshots for your future vids ? Anyways looking forward to the next vid.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I do own it but I have never played it. I've always told myself that I'll play the games once I reach that point in the timeline with this series.

    • @AtreidesT660
      @AtreidesT660 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SvenVanDerPlank Waiting to play the game until reaching the timeline - That's some discipline right there Sven.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's the only reason I've been able to commit to this ridiculous project for so long. I know MW4 is in the Civil War era so we should be good until at least then.

  • @ragnarbaron6090
    @ragnarbaron6090 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wanted to listen to this at 2:30 but my girl said we needed new curtains, I put my foot down and said I wear the pants in the relationship so I got to listened to it while hanging curtains 😂

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair enough. Hope they were nice curtains.

  • @RouterChain
    @RouterChain 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video,thanks for your work,Sven!

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No problem, glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @verysilentmouse
    @verysilentmouse 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your work

  • @alexwatts1064
    @alexwatts1064 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These videos are always a good part of my weekend. Thank you for making them!

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're welcome. I'm glad you continue to enjoy them each time round.

  • @foenrik8941
    @foenrik8941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Stealths continue to be the MVPs of the Lyran side. Here's hoping they keep doing well, though I wonder if their luck will run out before or after the next Archon gets in charge.
    Kuritans demonstrating yet again their honor is a lie, nothing new there.
    And Comstar already skirting their so-called "neutral" stance. Jeanette seemed genuine in her interest, so them exploiting her like that...well, they clearly saw it as just an opportunity, nothing more.
    I wondered if they targeted the Free Worlds League just because it'd be easier to manipulate than the others, or if it served some symbolic purpose for them, since they don't ever try subverting any of the other nations in such a direct manner.

  • @thomascraiker6449
    @thomascraiker6449 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff as usual! Looking forward to your future projects.

  • @MrOhidunno
    @MrOhidunno 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:15 Still wrapping my head around all the lore, but It's interesting that the 5th Sword of Light was primarily deployed to the Davion border for this Succession war, but a detachment was sent to Chandler for Operation Kuroi Kaze. This seems like an odd choice to me.

    • @MrOhidunno
      @MrOhidunno 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thinking about this more: it would have made more sense for the 8th Sword of Light to have fought with the 4th Arkab on Chandler. The 8th were stationed on Stanzanch, considerably closer to Chandler, while the 5th was stationed on Scheat on the Davion front.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MrOhidunno Weird movements like that are usually just a case of a throwaway line on one of the old sourcebooks mentioning the presence of a unit in some random battle now conflicting with the more thoroughly mapped out lore in the later historical series sourcebooks.

    • @MrOhidunno
      @MrOhidunno 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SvenVanDerPlankoh wow, first of all, huge fan, love everything about this channel and the work you do. Every video is an absolute joy to view.
      I saw the line in question in the 2nd succession war Sourcebook for the attack on Chandler, and I'm kinda wondering if a 5th was typed when an 8th should have been. On a monitor with less definition and small text, it's super easy to switch 5 and 8 on a quick glance. (I've done this quite a bit myself.)

  • @carlosrgns
    @carlosrgns 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i heard comstar some aggressive bill collection strategies

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Strategies include complete communication blackout and providing the nations you're at war with all of your secrets and current force deployments.

  • @filthyletonk1333
    @filthyletonk1333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant as usual. well done

  • @oathbreakers
    @oathbreakers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The intro is doing the things

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you mean... doing things below the belt? 😐

  • @calumdeighton
    @calumdeighton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I never really liked ComStar. After this. I really hate them.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hopefully I can add a few more "reallys" into that sentence by the time this series is finished.

  • @Nerd_Rage255
    @Nerd_Rage255 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great as always

  • @JohnnySmithWhite-wd4ey
    @JohnnySmithWhite-wd4ey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your content.

  • @MrScientifictutor
    @MrScientifictutor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some of the places you named were confusing. If you could say region of space or system or city then that would be more clear. Not to bash you videos. They are great.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for the feedback but could you clarify which moments confused you? Are you suggesting that I give no names and just say something like, "took three systems/attacked the capital city" for example?

    • @MrScientifictutor
      @MrScientifictutor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some of the merik and lyran border war start. Especially the quote "through his office on a place". I have no idea what that sentence means. However I am not am battletech hardcore fan.

    • @MrScientifictutor
      @MrScientifictutor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also. I have seen all your battletech videos and found them very clear but that one section I mentioned sounded just bewildering to me.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is an excellent point and definitely something I should have added a visual for. "A Place" is actually the name of a system along the Lyran's coreward periphery border.

  • @michaelthomas5433
    @michaelthomas5433 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Blame the phone company for everything. Blame them for Amaris why not? Or blame them for the House Lords not helping Kerensky. What does it matter that they didn't even exist then? pfft.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "What does it matter that they didn't even exist then?"
      And whose fault is that? Obviously theirs. Bloody ComStar.

  • @derekburge5294
    @derekburge5294 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And then everyone lived happily ever after?

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The only peace you can hope for is that the Draconis Combine conquers the other pretenders. Then there will be peace.

  • @jamesperkins191
    @jamesperkins191 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are the Mechs at 17:01?

  • @seanbrazell7095
    @seanbrazell7095 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😁👌

  • @DenienN
    @DenienN 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this made me very sleepy, not a fan of this one sorry