Why People Are Attracted to DSBM
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- It may seem a tad confusing or contradicting for someone who may be afflicted with sadness to listen to such overwhelmingly negative music with some of the most self-loathing lyricism you'll ever find. But from a mental health perspective solely, why do people feel so inclined to adopt and adore DSBM music?
From the sound to imagery, doomer culture and why it's not nearly as contradicting as you might think, I attempt to answer that here!
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I wanted to go over DSBM in a video essay format, going over some of the more philosophical and deeper meanings of the genre instead of solely focusing on the music as I've done in the past. What're your opinions on it, though?! Whether you enjoy it not, I'd love to know why! But for now, cheers, rock on, stay heavy and have yourselves a fantastic rest of your day or night, depending on when you see this!!!!!!!
A Rough Guide to DSBM, if you're interested:
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Would be fantastic
I like this guy. No clickbait, no fancy editing tricks designed to keep your attention. Just a cool dude talking into the camera while Undertale music plays.
And this, my friends, is my favorite comment I've gotten on this channel. ❤
@@TheMetalTempestYT I’m glad you appreciate it, boss 🫡
THIS, THIS. RIGHT. HERE.
it's Lo Fi for Metalheads
Oo I definitely get that!
For sure!
Thats a good point - sometimes its not the lyrics that convey the emotion but its the instrumentals that do that
❤ writing this comment while listening to my ambient playlist. Some of the strongest music (for me at least, can of course be subjective in the end hehe) has no words but speaks volumes and tells a whole story in its own right.
DSBM is right up there with my favorite shit. Lots of late nights alone with booze and cigs, just thinking of my next steps. My regrets, my future, life and death. Memories and old faces. It might sound cheesy, but it REALLY does burrow into my mind and change me for the evening sometimes… Shining, Abyssic Hate, Hypothermia, Xasthur, Trist, etc…. The main issue with DSBM for me, is how infectious it becomes when you get into it. It can consume you. Hours and hours can go by like a trance. 3:00am on your 16th beer when you last checked the time and it was 6:00PM yesterday. My TH-cam Ads on my living room TV have even been suicide advice and disclaimers due to the algorithm. But I’m a huge fan of The Beatles, Aesop rock, The Mountain Goats, even Bo Burnham, etc. So sometimes other shit breaks it up and snaps me out of it….
Long story short:
Like you said… It REALLY should be in doses. You have to have something else too. Its dangerously infectious and thought-provoking. It can easily push fragile minds over the edge.
Great video
God I love this comment. I related a ton to it...bringing about those feelings deep within you. For me that's always been ambient music and dark ambient. You don't ask for a genre to embody you, it simply speaks to you.
You really hit the nail on the head with burrowing into your mind. When you're vulnerable and searching desperately for an outlet it can truly wiggle its way into your very being and warp your senses, only hopefully temporarily.
Thank you a ton for sharing your story and the support.
@@TheMetalTempestYT you got it!!! Cheers
Huge dsbm fan here, i can say it literally saved my life. I appreciate this video
it's one of my favorite styles of black metal, and I am always trying to find more artists that do it
Same here! I've tried to dig a bit deeper into it. What're some of your favorites you've found?
@@TheMetalTempestYT Lifelover, Morphine, Lunar Aurora, Hypothermia, and Glass Coffin
@@TheMetalTempestYT listen to decalius my fav songs by them are loneliness, shotgun, and hated by life itself, (and “inside…” is a really good one revolved around this school shooting)
I have BPD and severe abandonment issues, like I've self harmed many times over stupid shit like not getting a text back. I also have a hard time connecting with people, especially if they're around my age. I feel like such a freak for being that way. But dsbm (Blade and Bath is my fav atm) feels like a hug and it gives me a healthy way to cope instead of hurting myself. Plus the instrumentals are fascinating to me, I love love love music and one day I wanna figure out how to include my primary instrument (tuba lol) in dsbm idk it'd be interesting but overall dsbm has been wonderful for my mental health
Thank you, I literally am the person you’re talking about. DSBM actually helped me so much and I will forever love it. I listen to other things, but at my worst DSBM gets me back up so I can be better and listen to other banger songs
Fnf sticker on the microphone. Its very surreal to see how big my buddy cam's game has gotten
LMAO, I definitely have my fair share of quirky stickers scattered about both on and off camera 😭
Dude I have
Asperger’s, Bipolar, ocd, adhd
I spent most of my childhood, and life up till now, suicidal. Half of it anyway- that’s how bipolar works. I could not have summed this up any better than you have.
I truly hope you are in a better place now. You rock and I'm happy you're here. ❤
Dsbm fucking saved my life
2021 I was severely depressed during covid. I felt alone, isolated. I talked to literally, LITERALLY no one in 6 months and felt how it eats me up. Too shy to find new friends online and even didn't want to get to know to new ones. I wanted my old ones being my old friends. At this time I was trapped with this feeling. Every day got harder, I cried almost every day out of spite until I even almost killed myself. Just out of fear of the future, out of fear of living. Even though it's edgy af, DSBM's sound and very brutal and "uncensored" lyrics sounds so natural to me. So realistic. It's all the voices I had in my head in some kind of an order I couldn't really understand. It's like the music said "yeah, I understand you. World is shit, so are you." and it felt so "good" being accepted as this miserable self I was. The music didn't tell me to "just be better" or that "I should seek help". I knew that already, thanks I try. The music confirmed my feelings and THAT felt SO good.
I am way better and over that time btw.
100% I listen to and make DSBM because I've been through sh!t and it gives me a cathartic release.
Great Video! Discovered Dsbm around high school years and I have to to say I am so glad I can find a genre that I can relate to.
i haven't really listened to much DSBM but i do find some of that effect coming from listening to bands like My Dying Bride and other bands whos themes deal with those darker aspects of the human condition. i often find most pop music to be rather saccharin in its presentation and not reflective of the human experience rather it to me speaks of a thin vainer that people put on to seem "normal"
Bands to listen to when down (That i know of)
Apati.
Trist.
Lifelover.
Xasthur.
Abyssic Hate.
Shining.
Happy Days.
Agalloch.
Nargaroth.
Decalius.
Sår.
Blade and Bath.
Malum Mortem.
Forever Lassitude.
For me, a lot of DSBM I find relaxing, especially more long-form stuff. It's so low-fi and strangely meditative that it often makes me want to go grab a mocha than a noose and can make a good mood better. The pure rawness lends itself to be appreciated from many angles
Also a weird side-tangent about one of your comments regarding people not listening to music to feel worse- sometimes that is actually the case, but not necessarily to have some sort of contrived emotional state. I've gone into some records knowing they would make me feel like shit (i.e. understanding the artist's perspective), and in rare instances listened to things specifically to make myself feel worse. I have difficulty expressing and experiencing emotions, so amplifying negative feelings can help bring them to the surface in a constructive way
There are two types of people in DSBM. The listeners and the artists. And yes, you can be both. I'm a DSBM amateur producer, and i do it to express myself. I'm speaking for myself, i do it as a form of therapy, since i can't express my feelings in words and therapists are useless to me. I have a song where i say "aint gonna make this one" and then i added the sound of a pistol and ambulance. But its all figurative, it's not "su!c!d@l" in the literal sense, it's not the body that dies, but the soul, as in "i quit fighting against whats making me sad, just accept it and learn to live with it" - and as a listener, i listen to it when i'm feeling melancholic, depressed or anxious. It helps to deal with those feelings. I mainly listen to Sadness and Psychonaut 4, 2 artists/bands that have their own style within DSBM.
But i do listen to other music genres, like japanese metal, psychadelic trance, hardstyle, some good old pop music and jazz, even though i like the "heavier" genres/sub-genres of music.
I found an album within this genre by a band called goodboy and the album is called leap of faith it’s very different from any other dsbm I’ve heard. Check it out if anyone is interested.
Edit: the band seems very inactive
And they are on bandcamp and from Ohio
Oo, not too terribly far from me, then. I'll definitely give them a try thank you for the suggestion!
Been through a lot of mental health struggles myself for the past nearly 2 years. Attempted suicide, lost some friends due to letting my mental health slip, and overall just hating everything. Now do I listen to much DSBM? Not really, I find bands like Today Is The Day to be WAAAY more depressing/maddening both sonically and lyrically than Silencer, but I still have a lot of respect for the genre. And, when I’m tired of the Today Is The Day style depressiveness, which is depression mixed with some anger, I miiiiiight just turn on Silencer for some somewhat calmer melancholy. Both of which are great to listen to when life just feels like hell.
I truly hope you're in a good spot now. I'm stoked you're here and I appreciate your story. We're all swimming around in the same fish bowl at the end of the day so let's make the most of it.
@@TheMetalTempestYT Thnx. Also, just curious, thoughts on Today Is The Day?
I'm not familiar!
@@TheMetalTempestYT Go check em out sometime. Steve Austin of that band produced the first 2 Lamb Of God albums, and Bill and Brann from Mastodon were in the band back in 1999.
Black metal has been my favorite genre for most of my life, and while my tastes within it have evolved over time, for most of my 20s DSBM plus a bit of Japanese pop-rock was almost all I listened to. I was a strange guy, but always remained pretty upbeat, happy, and nice throughout that time. Maybe it was the Japanese pop-rock?
based on my experience with this kind of music, i've always found it to be its own genre entirely. i've also always found it to be more appealing to goths than metalheads. i guess it's not hard to see why honestly. there's something about listening to dark music when you feel depressed that's more uplifting than listening to happy music. it's generally goths, and people who don't normally love metal who tend to listen to it. myself included. i'm a goth/industrial fan primarily. and i generally am not big on metal, yet DSBM i've been able to get into.
I struggle with mental health issues so i understand how DSBM migh help people, but personally i stay away for it, because I'm the type of person that would be negatively imapacted by that. I don't only listen to happy music, i love death and black metal, some atmospheric or ambient stuff but DSBM is like that border i do not cross for my own sake xd
I struggle with seriously bad anxiety being on the Autism Spectrum i completely understand listening to relatable music. When I was going through an intense Anxiety episode I listend to Motion City Soundtrack. Yeah it's not DSBM but the lyrics are the key their to songs. Justin the lead singer was very open about his struggles with Depression and anxiety. The song Everything is alright is a great example of that. My listening scheduale got all fucked up because it took me like 2 months to listen to aggressive music again. Anxiety makes you lose interest in the things you love
I have bipolar disorder type 2 and i feel pretty much of what you said. It's funny bc is not that fast to realize that your mood changed, I don't usually listen to DSBM when I am not in the depressive mood, but I do enjoy a lot when I am. It isn't a choice tho, it's kinda with the flow subconsciously.
Oh absolutely
I don't know of course what it is like to have bipolar disorder. But I struggle with low manic spikes and disassociation and sometimes I completely blank out and don't realize how music has made me slip into a specific mindstate of zoning out until I'm in it fully.
You should listen to the debut from Moonshadow’s Slave called “Pantagruel’s Dreams”. Came out some days ago and it really encompasses what the genre represents.
Ooo! I'll have to check it out--always looking out for new stuff to look into, especially new drops. Sometimes feels hard to keep up with everything so comments like these are dope ty
@@TheMetalTempestYT no problem. Hope the music speaks to you
DSBM fits my personality and mental state. I've had depression, anxiety, CPSTD, since childhood. I'm a survivor of a suicide attempt. I've been a metalhead since I was 10 years old and I'm now 63. DSBM and doom are the subgenres that speak to me. I do listen to other metal subgenres, and other types of music other than metal. But DSBM never made me depressed. I was that way long before DSBM before it was a thing. I'm just glad that it's there for metalheads like me. I think that's why I've never liked glam/hair metal or pop, or music like that. I can't relate to it.
DSBM & CULT black metal was my go to in hardtimes both had the emotions I felt in a religious environment & extremely violent city
after ive went tru some shit i didnt ended up on listening to dsbm, it became moslty as background music, to silence the world and let my thoughts shine, and well...sometimes it works as catarsis, or just a reminder of that emotion that im not afraid of now
i got in and out of my DSBM phase back in like, 2008-2013. Its kinda funny seeing it start to pop up again.
Awesome video !
Because I am mentally ill (Bipolar 1 Disorder ECT... DSBM is my escape from all bullshit in my life. I'm into DSBM since 2013 as vocalist and lyricist. DSBM term was invited by Niklas Kvarforth Shining vocalist. He invited in the 90's the term to be different from another black metal bands back then. Well, dude. Interesting video.
Dsbm helped me calm down when my parents were going through the there devorce and is the reason i didnt kill anyone
I love this genre, but if you listen to it all the time, it doesn't make things better, you can get really caught up in it and it drags u down
I do think DSBM has some good bands in the genre, it definitely has bred some interesting personalities in the scene. I’ve gotten some insight on the black metal in general from Reuben Christopher Jordan, of Benighed in Sodom and multiple other projects. I do feel that “DSBM” is between bands that are genuine in what they write and play, and then there’s others that trying to sell you things. Making completely empty music just to make a buck, and putting on a complete façade to make themselves seem more than mundane. Overall, I like bands that real with their music and don’t need to label it as DSBM.
Fully agree with this. I think if you truthfully have the heart to be making this type of music genuinely, it bleeds through. Vapid music absolutely feels vapid and you are always going to feel that, like you said perfectly, emptiness. You can't play pretend. It's simply lifeless and will always catch up to you. That's sick you got some inside scoop though
@@TheMetalTempestYTOf course, keep up the great content!
thank you! ^_^
A moment of silence for all the dyslexics who clicked on this video thinking it was about BDSM
1 i love the band shining and leviathan. - ( i have had dark times.) i am generally usually happy- i suppose those bands articulate and cleanse.
Also it is interesting seeing what outsiders think… its also why i question core/nu … if more extreme genres exist…
2 i used to listen to korn … but i was too young and it gave me toxic mental things.
Later i listened to slayer , pantera and testament- they were didactic and affirming -
Pantera changed me over night - i became mentally healthy.
Testament also did this.
Slayer was like a translator for BS . 😊
XASTHUR is hard to listen to.
(In the best possible way)
Nocturnal Depression seems
To be even harder for me to listen to.
(But I can handle 20 minutes at a time)
i am not a big listener of DSBM however i do listen to it from time to time Austere's album To Lay Like Old Ashes is one of my favourite's along with Shining's Halmstad, makes me feel less alone in my own feelings, less isolating, even listen to Silencer from time to time, it is a genre easy to drown yourself in but in small doses it can really help, hell i dont speak Swedish but Shining get their point across just fine without me needing to understand Swedish
While I haven't always said it, since adopting this adage my ability to deal with media has improved considerably: "'Display' does not equal 'Endorse'". Metal music has often been instrumental (heh) in diffusing negative emotion instead of engendering it. Not a lot of people understand that. Maybe it was more than just slowness that made Metallica's fans hissy whenever they played Fade to Black live--that the crankypants types merely refused to examine fatal stab wounds through eye sockets.
In the same vein, I never even heard of the genre of DSBM until now, primarily because I wasn't into seeking out this kind of music since I don't want to dwell on depression. I'd rather do something with music playing in the background--all kinds, not just metal, many things, often revolving around a small business. It's no offense, but I handle depression by making sure there is something purposeful that I am doing at any given moment. Can't dwell on meaninglessness if there's no meaninglessness to go around, right?
While dissecting a bad mood is every bit as important as confronting it somehow, I don't often hear about metal bands that lighten the mood, particularly with buffoonery. I never hear about bands that embrace a humorous tone beyond tongue-in-cheek slyness other than Psychostick--and they've been at it for years with nary a competitor. Do you know about other bands that manage to take the piss out of metal at large, along with everything else in the vicinity, and still rock out on a technical level?
Dsbm was basically the only genre I listened to throughout 2021. I really resonated with it and it made me feel like I was less alone with my feelings. But after a while I felt like it started to enable my negative thoughts instead of relieve them. I try not to listen to too much dsbm nowadays
What I don't understand is why allot of black metal bands (nor just DSBM) arnt just satisfyied with pointing a finger at all the evil but instead worship that which is negative to the point of wanting to cause it. Bands that I think of when I write this include mayhem, xasthur and shining.
Because it is nice. I am not a connoisseur of the genre yet I have listened to fair bunch of bands in the genre and it is just nice to listen to. And I don't have depression or other mental health issues yet I simply enjoy the music.
I have dated women at certain points of my life who would basically give me the whole "Oh, be happy, WOULD YOU?!", in response to my depression or melancholy. Hearing happy music when I'm feeling that way feels exactly like that. It feels dismissive, it feels like I'm just being told to bottle it all up and pretend to feel good. I can't do that. I wear my heart on my sleeve. I'm just too honest with myself and others.
Anyone who thinks happiness and being content is like a lever you can pull up or down at any point you want clearly is privileged enough to not properly comprehend that there is no such thing.
@@TheMetalTempestYT I feel that.
I like to listen to DSBM from time to time. It’s therapeutic for me. I have depression that gets worse in spring and summer because wildfires have left me traumatized. The music allows me to feel understood in my anger, grief and fears. Most people want to challenge the anger I feel towards the world or my circumstances, most people undermine my grief and don’t understand my fears. DSBM doesn’t challenge any of my emotions but allows me to find comfort in the fact that someone else feels and understands my emotions.
Can somebody tell me the album names in the thumbnail?
In my freshman and sophomore years of college, I spent a bit of time with DSBM, and quickly learned that it wasn't really for me. I loved Leviathan and Xasthur (I still do), but other than those two, I didn't really connect with the genre. Forgotten Tomb, Shining, Nocturnal Depression, and a few others were fine to me, but yeah. I get why people like it, but I resonate more with funeral doom and even noise and ambient for when I'm having tough times.
I still think "The Tenth Sublevel of Suicide" is one of the best black metal records ever, though
God, Leviathan is so good 😭
I agree personally though. I have a fond appreciation for it and am fascinated by the community. It's always been far from a genre I'm critical of and I can always understand the appeal but sometimes it's just a bit..much for me? But Leviathan and Xasthur are classics and it shows the talent levels that both projects are loved by non-DSBM fans, too!
Catharism is definitely the right word, for me at least.
Completely random and offtopic here... is that a Romanian flag in the background?
haha no, it's a pansexual flag :] have had quite a few people ask that though!
@@TheMetalTempestYT Hahaha fair enough! Well my best friend was over earlier and she's Romanian. We both noticed the flag in the background so that's why 😄
Ooo that makes sense
@@TheMetalTempestYT Nah dude, the flag is perfect as it is haha 😄
Given that i don't speak english (or any other common black metal language) daily and can not comprehend lyrics on the fly, especially in extreme metal, it was always musical aspect that i enjoyed in black metal.
watching this drunk as shit and idk the mf undertale ost in the background j sent me into a fit, good ass video tho, enjoyed very much.
Idk I really can describe it but i know why I like it
Years ago, i said to A friend
Only the crazy one would listen to black metal. After this i discoverd dsbm and it become my fav. Genre ❤ also i listen to funeral doom
Autism and PTSD coupled with political events that made my home country of Russia an unlivable hellscape again and forced me and parents to move elsewhere years ago. Listening to dark or melancholic music like DSBM, Funeral Doom, Post-Rock, and various other genres helps to get through the day a lot. It’s the similar effect you get from reading Cioran or Mainlander. Think of it as your friend approaching you and saying “Alright man, your life is miserable, let’s talk about it. Without excessive romanticizing, without showing needless pity, without showing the vain compassion. Let’s simply talk about it as it is.”
I honestly thought you mixed up the letters for BDSM so TH-cam didn't whack you. As a cynic and someone who enjoys dark things I don't know if I could listen to something depressing for too long. Even as someone who has gone through quite a bit I find it just wears on me
hello friend what country is in the back?
That's a pansexual flag!
I love dsbm so much
because my arms and thighs hurt
We are depressed
I know one obscure dsbm band called namaah
Frumos steag
Pup :))
Fuckin hate when I say I listen to DSBM and people say OOH BDSM?!
I love Dsbm my cousin put me on
Shotgun by decalius ugh
Are you Romanian?????
DSBM 🩶
gay
I don't like DSBM I like NSBM
fair enough!
@@TheMetalTempestYTit's nazi black metal
lmao yee ik, I've done a lot of content on it and think it's gross as fuck and dangerous but to each their own 😭
I agree there are some really good gems in nsbm but there is also ALOT of really bad albums/eps/demos out there.
No. Gross. I'm actually very much in favor of not letting people enjoy things. Please go back to whatever dank microwave noodle bowl ridden corner you crawled out of.