The Law of Diminishing Returns says hello! The key here is you bought a 'sweet spot' bike that is worth upgrading - and I think that's the art of buying a road bike.
Great video. Wheels + Bars + Cranks are the best upgrades to almost any bike. Doing it this way also means you don't have to fork out a one-lump-sum to buy the bike, and also everything is customized the way you like it. (Rim depth, bar width, crank length) as opposed to buying an off-the-shelf superbike that doesn't fit.
@@oliverberger5946 wow thanks for the info. You know nobody who upgrades to premium wheels puts old slow tires on them? It's so obvious only u did not understand what Joe said.
This is what I've basically done with all my road bikes. Upgraded them over time and got them close enough to the top models, so I can't blame the bike when things go south.
Finally! Thanks for the tests! Glad to see how the silverfox managed to improve so much! I plan to get 50mm carbon rims soon. I also plan to change the handlebar to a more comfortable one, but I'll go for a more affordable aluminium one. I think a 2 piece handlebar and stem systems matches the bike visually much better too.
Good video, and probably no surprise that an upgraded lower spec model can perform equally with a top tier model. One point you did make at the end highlights a gap in bike testing: efficiency of power transfer at high-power. It surprises me that there isn't yet a metric to measure this variable as there seems to be an obvious difference between bikes.
I cracked my carbon fiber bike on my trainer, due to rear end being locked in. The flex on the rear triangle gave after putting a lot of hard climbing on Zwift. So I don't race but love a high end bikes. This rabbit hole that I'm looking into aluminum frames is very interesting and I'm liking the content. Nice build and thank you for all the testing and build you shared.
Excellent video! and definitely worth it. Imagine saving almost half the total cost of a higher end bike. I followed this route since I already own and SLR 7 (size 54) and I have upgraded the crank, wheels, tires, tpu tubes, pedals, chain and the cassette. now my bike wieghs 7.2kg from and 8.8kg stock weight (no pedals and bottle cages in the stated weight).
Great video. I have done a similar upgrade to my Slr 03 which came with alloy wheels. But in my case I had full electronic ultegra groupset already installed. I bought my bike for 3400 pounds and my upgrades costed me 1000 pounds (carbon wheels and bmc integrated stem plus aero handle bars). My bike with garmin vector pedals weigh 8.5 kg and i am very very happy with it
I bought the Roadmachine 3 and changed out the "shop wheels" for a locally built set of carbon wheels for $1750 - the bike is now keeping pace with a range of much (much) more expensive bikes - the way to go...
Great video! I upgraded my 2006 madone swapping out wheels with hunt 50s and changing 9 speed ultegra to sram force 11 speed instead of paying way more for a new bike
Literally in the same boat as you. Just purchased the BMC SLR Two and am looking to lighten it up a bit. Carbon Wheels, semi-integrated cockpit, this video helps tremendously. I have some Super Team wheels (not as nice) on another bike and they've performed and held up flawlessly, now I'm starting to debate on these for the BMC.
I bought an Orbed Orca aero, with 20% discount. 3650 $, High modular frame, 105 DI2. I will take my Duke carbon wheels on it. It looks and rides so great. I compared it to an SL8 Pro: Double price, half the fun.
Very nice. Given you can spend 100$ on a similar cockpit and 700$ for similar wheels if you know where to look, it's all the more attractive to upgrade a lower spec bike. The cable integration though, a bike is prettier without hoses sticking out (insane pain to maintain though).
I say it’s worth it. Whenever I get a bike I want to change, cranklength, bae width most likely aster length, plus you can pick the exact wheels and tires you want. So it’s a win, and you could also use the original wheels as training wheels or sell the set to recover alittle bit of the cash for the upgrades
follow up video: get the weight aero the same Weight: Joe can send you lighter: crank, saddle, cassette. Or maybe keep the ultegra cassette and switch to a 1by set up. aero: Would be cool if you could get an SLR01 fork... but that is probably difficult to impossible. (or maybe 2 minimally exposed cables is net to no impact to aero?).
Thanks for presenting all the data so clearly, very interesting. Have you ever tested a steel frame 10 speed bike from the late 60’s. The comparison would be interesting too.
I can answer that one and the answer is I don't believe its possible on a reasonable budget. About 10kg is easily achievable, thereafter cubic dollars are required. GCN recently did this with all top shelf Shimano gear by frankensteining a perfectly innocent bike at an eye watering cost that makes no sense. And no matter what is done, the frame will not be as efficient as a carbon frame anyway. They also did a back to back test of a new Willier and their neo steelie which was all top shelf Campag. Same deal they just don't perform as well no matter how much money you throw at them. Nice to ride, still capable of going fast and good handling, but slower than a new bike, especially up a hill. I have a couple so I can back this up with long experience. Cam, hit me up if you want to check this out.
Shimano 105 Di2 is an excellent group set. I have it on my Giant TCR Advanced. A year ago it was US$3,500 for the bike with the better SLR1 carbon tubeless wheels. I see now the price is over $5K with the lesser SLR2 wheels.
Just got myself the new Cube 2025 Model with Shimano 105 mechanical and I want to upgrade the wheels first. I crashed my bikes a few times in the past few years and I don't want a carbon frame yet. Wheels should make the biggest difference. When the tires are done I swap to something with the least rolling resistance and probably even go for tubeless. Rest of the weightloss will be done on the rider :D. Can only get better than the current 9.8kg...
Would you do same to an alloy frame bike with mechanical shifting? Tires, tpu tubes; then wheels and cassette, then bars. Then maybe cranks… no plastics ;)
Hi Cam. Cool video. As a regular rider and not a racer (like probably 90% of your viewers), would be good to hear a bit more about the non-speed elements that make the bikes differ. Ie 2 seconds here or there is not going to swing the dial - but the feel, responsiveness, ability to accelerate, comfort etc, is something that you would experience all the time in any ride. So I think more info on how the different bikes or set-ups feel, would be at least as useful as the straight speed comparison. Well for me anyway. Thanks mate from South Africa
great and realistic test, only thing that I'm confused is how can you notice 400g difference in these bikes considering system weight is 80-90kg? really no point in spending 5k more for superbike
Great video. I'd be really curious to see more comparisons of wider wheels and tires. Looks like these rims are 28mm wide external and 21mm internal, which is very narrow by todays "meta". Get some 32-34mm external / 23-25mm internal rims and put some 30mm or 32mm tires on there and let us know how that works?
What is your opinion on the difference in frames between the slr and slr 01? I had the slr and found it quite sluggish when accelerating / out of the saddle. Upgraded to an aethos and dammm that one goes!
I have the SLR05 and upgraded it almost identical. One thing is pretty frustrating though: you can't go full integrated cable routing with the SLR05 fork. So, if you have one fork in this arctic silver fox colourway, please hit me up. 54 size also.
Out of curiosity, is the bar width and stem length the same on the superbike and budget bike before/after? Depending on your shoulder width the gain there can be huge.
@@christianemeiners9224 I just rode a crux (gravel racing bike). The frame is just 100g heavier but the the salesman ensured me, the s-works is another league. I don`t believe it. By the entry level SL8 and then upgrade it- it´s the better choice.
I bought a tcr with di2 105 and it feels sluggish compared to my venge gen 1 I’ve changed tyres and saddle next I’m get dura ace di2 I’m hoping it make it feel good enough to race
Wheels, tyres and tubes. I wouldn't have bothered with the bar/stem combo or the cassette if it was my bike. I have changed my bars purely for fit and they are alu.
Very nice video Cam, as always! For my budget, 5800 is way too much tho. Ride a '23 Scott Speedster costing 1000USD and upgrading it first with two Pirelli P-Zero Race TLR RS 32mm w/ TPU tubes. Putting some miles on that and possibly in the future some wheels and/or groupset. Total shouldn’t exceed 3200€ which is still serious cash imo…
Why buy heavy, expensive tubeless tires just to put TPU tubes inside? Just get Michelin power cup clinchers 28 (31wam) . Faster and lighter then those tubeless heavies
@@jjfalk they are good but not market leading. Michelins are faster. But if you got tubeless tires already maybe it's time to try it with sealant :) I'm still not convinced for road but maybe will try one day. Love it on gravel though
@@kubackjeee Yeah I’ve never done TLR on road either… Let’s see! And I think the new RS’s are leaders in the TLR domain, otherwise Michelin’s/GPs/Corsa Pro’s might all be faster I’m not sure…
@@jjfalk for 32c they might be the fastest. But those michelin I got stretch to 31mm with weight of 230g so I am pretty satisfied with them. Hard for me to move to something else. All good on road mate and have a nice ride with Your new upgrade! :)
Hello Cam, sorry to bother you with a question that's not pertinent with the content of the video, but I'd figure it'd be more visible if I commentend on the most recent video: I have zero issues with foot pain and knee pain as of now, do I still need arch support or are my feet stable and strong enough to not use it? I'm currently using Shimano shoes which are fairly slim and have no problems with them. I've walked barefoot for most of my life, if that helps, and I'm also fairly muscular with strongly built legs and calves. Thank you very much in advance
Interesting test Cam but not surprising result shows bang for bucks....So who or what is the tyre lever thief? Magpies or crows most likely...In N.Z this can happen and Keas (N.Z mountain parrot) steal anything like windscreen rubbers and shiny objects!
Does the BMC have an entry-level with 105 mechanical ? Because I believe that a Di2 groupset isn't that entry-level. IMHO But on the other hand. Great video
Just see how you like cycling first if you're still new. However if you do really want to upgrade I'd reccomend haivng a look at some elite wheels. You can get a decent pair of 1400g 50mms for around 500ish pounds, the "edge" model I believe. Also Riro make some very good carbon cranks for around 140 pounds which go down too 165mm. The cranks weight about 390g for the pair and they come with a chain ring at around 180g. This is of course if you dont already have carbon rims and cranks
What kinda of animals ride bikes down there? I'd be looking for a Koala on a Brompton with new tires.😂 Great series, I enjoy all your videos. I ride similar set up. Different reason entirely. BMC SLR One (2018) and BMC SLR Five. I run the same Deda bar and Specialized Power mirror saddle. I only want same geometry on a bad weather travel bike. I can absolutely tell the difference between the two frame sets. But ask me how much it matters. Only in my head. And ego. I never take the SLR5 on group rides!😂 Happy Cycling
Probably. I've upgraded a pretty heavy alloy bike in the past to GP5000s and they were nearly as fast on that as they are on my current substantially lighter Ti bike.
The Law of Diminishing Returns says hello! The key here is you bought a 'sweet spot' bike that is worth upgrading - and I think that's the art of buying a road bike.
true!
Great video. Wheels + Bars + Cranks are the best upgrades to almost any bike. Doing it this way also means you don't have to fork out a one-lump-sum to buy the bike, and also everything is customized the way you like it. (Rim depth, bar width, crank length) as opposed to buying an off-the-shelf superbike that doesn't fit.
That's not true. The best upgrade you can get are always the tires.
Tires first.
@@oliverberger5946 Yes, may as well change them while you're changing the wheels 😁
I started with tires, then wheels and cassette, and then bars. Cranks maybe next…
Send him some light cranks, saddle, and cassette... that should put the 2 bikes at nearly the same exact weight
@@oliverberger5946 wow thanks for the info. You know nobody who upgrades to premium wheels puts old slow tires on them? It's so obvious only u did not understand what Joe said.
This is what I've basically done with all my road bikes. Upgraded them over time and got them close enough to the top models, so I can't blame the bike when things go south.
The bike won't feel nimble at all without pedals mate.
Don’t knock it until you try it
Thanks for being you and cranking out content like this Cam!
Great test - basically for half the money you get 95% of the bike! Sounds like a good deal!
99.9
Love the video, been waiting a while for it and it delivers ! Great work mate. Keep the good stuff coming. Love it
Excellent comparison BMC wont be to happy with you though no stone left unturned a very informative video thanks.
Well on the other hand BMC can be happy how good the quality of the entry level frame is.
@@rolffuchs2737 YES
Congrats on 200k. Take a piece of chalk to mark your spots next time
Excellent video - love the bike names
Finally! Thanks for the tests! Glad to see how the silverfox managed to improve so much! I plan to get 50mm carbon rims soon. I also plan to change the handlebar to a more comfortable one, but I'll go for a more affordable aluminium one. I think a 2 piece handlebar and stem systems matches the bike visually much better too.
Great video mate! Congratulations on 200K! 👏🎉
Thanks Cam!! Great content. Froth is nice but affording to live is nice too. Keep up your valued efforts!
Great video Cam, love how thorough you are with these comparisons
Good video, and probably no surprise that an upgraded lower spec model can perform equally with a top tier model. One point you did make at the end highlights a gap in bike testing: efficiency of power transfer at high-power. It surprises me that there isn't yet a metric to measure this variable as there seems to be an obvious difference between bikes.
I think it was a test worth conducting. Great job brother
Great video mate… and you put to bed my suspicions I’ve had all along! 🤪🙌
I cracked my carbon fiber bike on my trainer, due to rear end being locked in. The flex on the rear triangle gave after putting a lot of hard climbing on Zwift. So I don't race but love a high end bikes. This rabbit hole that I'm looking into aluminum frames is very interesting and I'm liking the content. Nice build and thank you for all the testing and build you shared.
Keep the comparison reviews coming mate :)
Mr. Cam delivers once again 💪💪
Excellent video! and definitely worth it. Imagine saving almost half the total cost of a higher end bike. I followed this route since I already own and SLR 7 (size 54) and I have upgraded the crank, wheels, tires, tpu tubes, pedals, chain and the cassette. now my bike wieghs 7.2kg from and 8.8kg stock weight (no pedals and bottle cages in the stated weight).
Great test. You are super thorough and patient (waiting for the right weather conditions), as always. 👍
Great video. I have done a similar upgrade to my Slr 03 which came with alloy wheels. But in my case I had full electronic ultegra groupset already installed. I bought my bike for 3400 pounds and my upgrades costed me 1000 pounds (carbon wheels and bmc integrated stem plus aero handle bars). My bike with garmin vector pedals weigh 8.5 kg and i am very very happy with it
I bought the Roadmachine 3 and changed out the "shop wheels" for a locally built set of carbon wheels for $1750 - the bike is now keeping pace with a range of much (much) more expensive bikes - the way to go...
Great video! I upgraded my 2006 madone swapping out wheels with hunt 50s and changing 9 speed ultegra to sram force 11 speed instead of paying way more for a new bike
Great video as always mate!
Literally in the same boat as you. Just purchased the BMC SLR Two and am looking to lighten it up a bit. Carbon Wheels, semi-integrated cockpit, this video helps tremendously.
I have some Super Team wheels (not as nice) on another bike and they've performed and held up flawlessly, now I'm starting to debate on these for the BMC.
I bought an Orbed Orca aero, with 20% discount. 3650 $, High modular frame, 105 DI2. I will take my Duke carbon wheels on it. It looks and rides so great. I compared it to an SL8 Pro: Double price, half the fun.
Very nice. Given you can spend 100$ on a similar cockpit and 700$ for similar wheels if you know where to look, it's all the more attractive to upgrade a lower spec bike. The cable integration though, a bike is prettier without hoses sticking out (insane pain to maintain though).
I say it’s worth it. Whenever I get a bike I want to change, cranklength, bae width most likely aster length, plus you can pick the exact wheels and tires you want. So it’s a win, and you could also use the original wheels as training wheels or sell the set to recover alittle bit of the cash for the upgrades
Old mate and backward hat Dylan need to collaborate on a review other YT cycling reviews
follow up video: get the weight aero the same
Weight:
Joe can send you lighter: crank, saddle, cassette. Or maybe keep the ultegra cassette and switch to a 1by set up.
aero:
Would be cool if you could get an SLR01 fork... but that is probably difficult to impossible. (or maybe 2 minimally exposed cables is net to no impact to aero?).
Gone are the days when you could get a mid-range groupset and decent weight bike for that price.
Thanks for presenting all the data so clearly, very interesting. Have you ever tested a steel frame 10 speed bike from the late 60’s. The comparison would be interesting too.
I can answer that one and the answer is I don't believe its possible on a reasonable budget. About 10kg is easily achievable, thereafter cubic dollars are required. GCN recently did this with all top shelf Shimano gear by frankensteining a perfectly innocent bike at an eye watering cost that makes no sense. And no matter what is done, the frame will not be as efficient as a carbon frame anyway. They also did a back to back test of a new Willier and their neo steelie which was all top shelf Campag. Same deal they just don't perform as well no matter how much money you throw at them. Nice to ride, still capable of going fast and good handling, but slower than a new bike, especially up a hill. I have a couple so I can back this up with long experience. Cam, hit me up if you want to check this out.
Shimano 105 Di2 is an excellent group set. I have it on my Giant TCR Advanced. A year ago it was US$3,500 for the bike with the better SLR1 carbon tubeless wheels. I see now the price is over $5K with the lesser SLR2 wheels.
I just bought a BMC Roadmachine five and love it 😊
Just got myself the new Cube 2025 Model with Shimano 105 mechanical and I want to upgrade the wheels first. I crashed my bikes a few times in the past few years and I don't want a carbon frame yet. Wheels should make the biggest difference. When the tires are done I swap to something with the least rolling resistance and probably even go for tubeless. Rest of the weightloss will be done on the rider :D. Can only get better than the current 9.8kg...
Go Captain Planet 💪
Another interesting and thorough test.
2:07 good to see your critics in your videos 😃.
Always good content here.
I have a Silver Fox, so I know what to do now! Thank You! Great!
Thanks Cam
Cam Thx for this video as I was thinking of getting a set of Classic Pro superteam wheels and I think that will be ordered soon.
That’s why the bike industry is in trouble. The crazy expensive prices on these bikes.
Would you do same to an alloy frame bike with mechanical shifting? Tires, tpu tubes; then wheels and cassette, then bars. Then maybe cranks… no plastics ;)
Hi Cam. Cool video.
As a regular rider and not a racer (like probably 90% of your viewers), would be good to hear a bit more about the non-speed elements that make the bikes differ. Ie 2 seconds here or there is not going to swing the dial - but the feel, responsiveness, ability to accelerate, comfort etc, is something that you would experience all the time in any ride. So I think more info on how the different bikes or set-ups feel, would be at least as useful as the straight speed comparison. Well for me anyway.
Thanks mate from South Africa
great and realistic test, only thing that I'm confused is how can you notice 400g difference in these bikes considering system weight is 80-90kg?
really no point in spending 5k more for superbike
You can feel the difference between a TPU tube and a butyl tube if you ride enough.
Great video.
I'd be really curious to see more comparisons of wider wheels and tires. Looks like these rims are 28mm wide external and 21mm internal, which is very narrow by todays "meta".
Get some 32-34mm external / 23-25mm internal rims and put some 30mm or 32mm tires on there and let us know how that works?
Would love to know can you run internal brake hoses if you have the correct headset cover. ??? Its a fantastic bike for the money
been checking out that Silver Fox... Sounds like a good choice thx
Am interested to know how the light weight TPU tubes change the ‘road feel’ of the bike versus butyl, latex or tubeless ?
Dear Cam,thanks for that great vid and comments,I enjoyed it a lot .
Were you surprised by the results of that test?
Thanks mate.
Not really. I've played this game a lot in my own cycling history(before YT) so I felt anecdotally it was going to be close.
What is your opinion on the difference in frames between the slr and slr 01? I had the slr and found it quite sluggish when accelerating / out of the saddle. Upgraded to an aethos and dammm that one goes!
I have the SLR05 and upgraded it almost identical. One thing is pretty frustrating though: you can't go full integrated cable routing with the SLR05 fork. So, if you have one fork in this arctic silver fox colourway, please hit me up. 54 size also.
how are the carbon spokes? not too stiff? how is the handling and cornering ?
Cool test. Do think the Chinese wheels will hold up as long as the DT's will?
For future, I advise using some chalk to mark on tarmac where you stop :)
Great video. How were the handlebars? I’m interested in buying them.
The legend of the Silver Fox
Out of curiosity, is the bar width and stem length the same on the superbike and budget bike before/after? Depending on your shoulder width the gain there can be huge.
You wanted a comment: well done, Cam! Destroying the big buck bike market in one video ;-) What do I do now with my Tarmac? Cheers mate
haha, take the Sworks if you can afford it Chrissi!
@@CamNicholls afford I can it not, but wanting it I do ;-)
@@christianemeiners9224 I just rode a crux (gravel racing bike). The frame is just 100g heavier but the the salesman ensured me, the s-works is another league. I don`t believe it. By the entry level SL8 and then upgrade it- it´s the better choice.
@@rolffuchs2737 🙈 too late
I bought a tcr with di2 105 and it feels sluggish compared to my venge gen 1 I’ve changed tyres and saddle next I’m get dura ace di2 I’m hoping it make it feel good enough to race
Wheels, tyres and tubes. I wouldn't have bothered with the bar/stem combo or the cassette if it was my bike. I have changed my bars purely for fit and they are alu.
Very nice video Cam, as always! For my budget, 5800 is way too much tho. Ride a '23 Scott Speedster costing 1000USD and upgrading it first with two Pirelli P-Zero Race TLR RS 32mm w/ TPU tubes. Putting some miles on that and possibly in the future some wheels and/or groupset. Total shouldn’t exceed 3200€ which is still serious cash imo…
Why buy heavy, expensive tubeless tires just to put TPU tubes inside? Just get Michelin power cup clinchers 28 (31wam) . Faster and lighter then those tubeless heavies
@@kubackjeee Market leading low rolling resistance and I’m curious to try tubeless, otherwise yes the clinchers you’re mentioning are lightning fast.
@@jjfalk they are good but not market leading. Michelins are faster. But if you got tubeless tires already maybe it's time to try it with sealant :) I'm still not convinced for road but maybe will try one day. Love it on gravel though
@@kubackjeee Yeah I’ve never done TLR on road either… Let’s see! And I think the new RS’s are leaders in the TLR domain, otherwise Michelin’s/GPs/Corsa Pro’s might all be faster I’m not sure…
@@jjfalk for 32c they might be the fastest. But those michelin I got stretch to 31mm with weight of 230g so I am pretty satisfied with them. Hard for me to move to something else. All good on road mate and have a nice ride with Your new upgrade! :)
Thanks for the entertainment content :)
Whoa! Shadows move, right? What is the time delta between the runs?? 😉
Would that headset work with a mechanical 105 groupset on a teammachine slr seven per chance?
So interesting. Cheers mate
Would love a review of the ogevkin "Loong" frame.
‘Old mate’ t-shirt = gold
Hello Cam, sorry to bother you with a question that's not pertinent with the content of the video, but I'd figure it'd be more visible if I commentend on the most recent video: I have zero issues with foot pain and knee pain as of now, do I still need arch support or are my feet stable and strong enough to not use it? I'm currently using Shimano shoes which are fairly slim and have no problems with them. I've walked barefoot for most of my life, if that helps, and I'm also fairly muscular with strongly built legs and calves.
Thank you very much in advance
Can we get a crowd fund going for some more red levers?
Interesting test Cam but not surprising result shows bang for bucks....So who or what is the tyre lever thief? Magpies or crows most likely...In N.Z this can happen and Keas (N.Z mountain parrot) steal anything like windscreen rubbers and shiny objects!
So you used a sun dial as a marker? Did you adjust for time of day?
Does the BMC have an entry-level with 105 mechanical ? Because I believe that a Di2 groupset isn't that entry-level. IMHO
But on the other hand. Great video
Why are you using 26mm tires? Curious because I thought 28-30 was faster.
It’s all about the wheels!
Most likely, but the bars make it look cool and that is very important.
@@CamNicholls Gotta look good cruising the strip!
I just bought a used 2018 model for $1200.. Wondering what I should do with it..? New to cycling..
Just see how you like cycling first if you're still new. However if you do really want to upgrade I'd reccomend haivng a look at some elite wheels. You can get a decent pair of 1400g 50mms for around 500ish pounds, the "edge" model I believe. Also Riro make some very good carbon cranks for around 140 pounds which go down too 165mm. The cranks weight about 390g for the pair and they come with a chain ring at around 180g.
This is of course if you dont already have carbon rims and cranks
What kinda of animals ride bikes down there? I'd be looking for a Koala on a Brompton with new tires.😂
Great series, I enjoy all your videos.
I ride similar set up. Different reason entirely. BMC SLR One (2018) and BMC SLR Five. I run the same Deda bar and Specialized Power mirror saddle. I only want same geometry on a bad weather travel bike. I can absolutely tell the difference between the two frame sets.
But ask me how much it matters. Only in my head. And ego. I never take the SLR5 on group rides!😂
Happy Cycling
What brand and model is the white helmet? Cheers
That's a steal for 2400 USD. Comparable specialized is 3k on sale
Do you want your red Tyre leavers back?
Ah, the shadow test, sun dial fans look away now! 😂😂😂
Slr01 for sale. What are you getting now? Teammachine R?
Fingers crossed. Yes.
Fun video!
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the heavy lifting was being done by the low RR tyres here
Probably. I've upgraded a pretty heavy alloy bike in the past to GP5000s and they were nearly as fast on that as they are on my current substantially lighter Ti bike.
Since when was a $3599 bike with Di2 classed as 'entry level'?
@@Tom-hp4bq since covid I believe.
Since TH-cam videos became adverts.
Why does BMC still use that PF BB86? Jeez.
Do you have crows in Australia? They might have stolen your levers :))
Yes we do. I reckon there's a pretty solid red bird bridge out there somewhere LOL
So which bike is for sale, Cam?
Nice one!
The tyre leaver mystery begs the further investigation and uncovering the culprit
haha, I was thinking maybe a Netflix documentary series
@@CamNicholls South American soap opera style perhaps?
Surly it was a Magpie 😅
Just take a stick of chalk with you and mark the tarmac where you stop. It will wash away next time it rains.
We totally should have a video of all the Hat Man comments 🎩🤠😀.
0:09 yep 🤠😀.
Most excellent testing… wonder what those koalas are doing with those tyre levers 🤨
9:05 Sorry Cam. My 4-year-old daughter has something to tell you about shadows...
Can also resell those takeoff wheels and bars.
I think the fact that you consider a $3600 bike entry level is kind of sad.
The 2013 BMC wipes the floor with both of them.