How to nock tune with lighted nocks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.พ. 2021
- How to nock tune, with lighted nocks. It's pretty black and white. Not much grey. Tune with lighted nocks....well, there's a bit more. Hit play.
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Great video Troy, and 100% agree on the cautions regarding lighted nocks, especially at longer ranges. This is a great topic to cover and I think alot of people really under-estimate how much impact on arrow flight and accuracy a lighted nock can have if you are not very meticulous with them, and even then still not be as reliable. It's a mechanical device that is more complicated than a plain nock and therefore has more that can go wrong--beyond just the extra weight in the rear, lower FOC, and rounder trajectory (all things otherwise equal). Over the years I have experienced several cases in testing these things where it seems like you just don't get quite the energy transfer from the string into your arrow 100% of the time with lighted nocks. I've been burned by this, even on arrow/nock/broadhead combinations that I have tuned and tested pretty thoroughly. As a result, for a long shot I just don't want to risk using a lighted nock, as the longer the range, the worse the impact on accuracy as you alluded to. My "golf bag" quiver usually has a couple of fully tested lighted nock arrows that I'll use in most situations, since vast majority of shots I take are inside 35 yds, with the rest of my arrows with standard nocks in case I need to stretch it out. For my upcoming moose hunt in Maine, I fully trust my lighted nock arrows for close-quarters work (especially on an animal with an 18" diameter vital zone) while calling, but if we do any spot and stalk where a longer shot may be required, it will be a stock nock all the way.
Nice timing RF. I had a great system that I started working on in January of 2020. In 2021 I started in February with 1 objective. To make 6 shafts from scratch into arrows with lighted nocks while still maintaining the 20.5%+ FOC that I had in 2020. I just finished bare shaft nock tuning. I use a new SEVR resealable foam target rachet strapped to a stand on wheels. Make sure u shoot into the side of the SEVR target that has the grid pattern. It allows me to get a good read on my arrow. All bare shafts were shot with the nock on the string w/o it being lighted. The arrows I had in 2019 & 2020 with the stock nock had an additional wrap over them. My new 6 shafts r the same 300 spine arrow shot @ 63 lbs. The difference is that these new shafts r a different model of the same brand & I saved 30 grains from 1 end of carbon to the other. That helps cuz the lighted nocks r 20 grains heavier than the stock nocks. I have a nicely tuned bow & I ordered a new 2021 version of it with the same draw cycle that I will shoot from 62-65 lbs. 6 months of testing will follow but I'm happy to day that b4 fletching that I did the math & was able to get all 6 shafts within 1/2 grain of each other & they all spin & shoot true.
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Gonna be interesting - possibly disruptive!!
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Great video as always. I went through this same situation last year when determining which lighted nock, if any to shoot. I shoot 250 spine Apollo’s from Sirius and had wonky broadhead flight with a certain lighted nock (nocturnal) so I opted to hunt with just a stock nock. Went back to the drawing board later in the season and did some research on Lumenok’s and discovered they are in fact a Black Eagle “R” nock, which is a “stock nock”!! After some nock tuning with the Lumenok’s and broadheads, I had much much better flight that I felt confident in taking to the woods.
This is exactly what I needed to hear.. I wanted so bad to shoot my new lighted knocks on my new Mathews v3. I did all the research and put in all effort and time in tuning and I noticed the knocks I choose, which were nockturnals with Broadheads, were shooting low consistently and sometimes flew weird and left. I spent the money on a 6 pack of the nocks. So I started to mess with my sights to compensate.. but now after watching this I’m going to go back to trusty stock nocks. I might not see my arrow as well but I will have better blood on my fletchings when its time for business. Thanks much!
You're back. I was considering scanning the obituaries. Hope your electric is on, or you had a good back up plan. We went without electric in 2009 for three weeks. Our wood stove and gas grill rescued us. Generators were worthless. The gas stations did not have electricity either.
Keep me coming Troy . Another great vid .
I've built my heavy load arrows and have them shooting week and now working on a golf bag so I have a couple of arrows for each hunting situation. Here in Australia I get what I can . Be it a fox or rabbit I'll use my light fast arrows , for pigs and deer I'll use my 575 adult arrows .
Great video. I just came back in the house from shooting my bow, I’ve got everything tuned up and good, for kicks I did my second experiment with a lighted nock (nocturnal) and unless I fall and hit my head, I can tell you with a high degree of certainty that unless I follow your formula and build some arrows for one of my back up bows that I absolutely am NOT using them on my primary bow. They fly crazy of course but from 10-30yds they hit the mark, however at 40 yds they look like a kid writing their name with a sparkler on the 4th of July and hit about 6 inches to the right…. For myself they are just more trouble than they are worth.
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I went back to traditional nocks this year and had my best kill year so far. Opening weekend of bow season I knocked first arrow and felt wiggle..checked all my lighted nocks and they were loose after 1 confirm shot each.
Ain’t that something!!! Yup
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Yeah!!! New video from RF
Awesome video. I was having trouble getting lighted nocks to fly the same. I have started putting a 1/2” wide piece of DOT tape on the nock end of my arrow and it shines even covered in blood when a flashlight hits it.
I'm looking forward to trying this. Keep up the great work!
I cut a small screw down to 15 grains (to account for lighted nock weight) and inserted it into my stock nocks for daily practice just to get the weight/balance perfect. I also made one that is 39 grains, (15 for lighted nock and 24 for vane weight) that I use for bare shaft nock tuning. Btw I don’t know why people turn the nock 4 times 90 degrees... Instead, shoot, flip, turn 90, then flip again. Just my 2 cents.
That is actually quite brilliant
Only thing I can see wrong is I would forget where I was in tuning.
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I witnessed my nocturnal nocks not being able to tune but when I put the stock nocks in no problem I think I was getting nock pinch because they were a little more beefy then the stock nocks
I had a hard time with Nocturnals. I will not use them moving forward. I had too many problems when I tied on my cutthroats.
Looks like there is a missing screw at the limb tip of your Kure.
Another great video Troy,that’s all I have shot is stock .
Can't wait for more videos
Dam i cant wait for your videos...its helpful as heck. Ive got my fixed blades flying bitchen...i tell guys my arrow weight and they're jaws drop...
I got some sirius vulcans. In 300 spine and had to file the lumenocks down so they would fit in the shaft they are hard to turn off but they work.
I invented a lighted broadhead so my arrows can see where they're going.
Haven't picked my bow up in month need to get her out and do tinkering got hunt down in Texas coming up in couple months
Got to do the work
Can't wait to run my adult arrows through a giant whitetail this year.
Side note the excursion 6 is a 6 inch brace height , hence the name . The excursion 7 is a 7 inch brace height
Yeah - I realized that too late
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Makes sense.
Great video! Where do you buy the feathers? I am thinking about trying some instead of vanes to bump FOC a smidge. Following the correct process, step-by-step with the new arrow build, of course.
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As the lighted nocks are heavier than stock nocks:
Is it a good idea that I put some fact weight behind the insert to balance it out? Like the Gold tip or Victory arrows.
How about shooting lighted nocks for tuning? Exact match
@@RanchFairy Yeah. But I was just asking. If I use lighted nock and fact weight together, it will increase overall arrow weight. So, if I'm little bit underweight from my requirmemt, that will boost up the weight, plus my FOC won't be compromised.
@@greenhoodedvigilante458
100,000%
FOC compromised with any weight added
But
If you’re matching your current set up and fact matches lighted nock
It’s the same - gotcha
I have a question I have factory knocks on my arrows and they keep pulling off when I shoot but the lighted knocks that I purchased fit more snugly than the factory ones and dont pop off but not sure how they will shoot what do you recommend I do?
I just saw some single bevel broadheads for 2021 by OzCut called the hurricane. Have you seen these yet...If so do you have an opinion on them?
I am curious also. Lusk outdoors has a video of them. He tested them in concrete. I am more interested in how they perform in real life.
I added nockturnal nocks... they fly weird. I tried tunning them and gave up. Smh ugh. The tail drops alot when shooting from a stand.
That’s a big change when you push something from the back. Common actually - shoot stock nocks
Weird! I don’t seem to see a difference using nocturnals. I’m a 50 yard max guy though. Goes to show that you have to test the gameday setup!!
What about the easy button arrow set ups you sell at Sirius? Don’t the come with the fletching? So just nock time those with out doing bare shaft? I was hoping to get the test kit and a set of easy button arrows when I figure out the spine. I would buy bare shaft if that is a better way to do it. Just wondering what you think is the best way to get the best flying arrow.
Also I don’t know if I’m comfortable fletching my arrows my self that’s why I’m leaning towards the easy button kits you have
@@ThePjpulvermacher fletching is cheap. If anything, get a couple of busted shafts cut square and practice setting up your jig. I built my arrows from the shaft up last year, and while my glue beads were a bit sloppy on my fletching, they flew like darts.
I have seen a lot of TV shows use the lighted nock, but I have never had much luck with them. They either do not activate during a kill shot or after hitting the animal, the knock turns it self off or disappears into the forest never to be seen again.
Since they run about 10.00 each, I figured I will just leave that money in my wallet for now on. Lol
Using this stick with the curve bow?
I thought weight at the back of the arrow is a terrible thing as far as I understand from Dr Ashbys studies.
Hey RF, have you tried Glory Nocks? I think they’re pretty new to the market. Curious on the accuracy of those if you’ve tuned with them.
I haven’t played with then
Kind of off topic when you measure foc do u measure to end of broadhead or end of the shaft
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Strange fellow. Strange indeed! Very knowledgeable but strange.
He agrees.
So the instruction is.....nock tune with a lighted nock. K
In other words, tune and practice with your hunting setup...
Yuck. Luminock sucks. They fail about 50% of the time, they are dim, and they are fragile. Try the starburst nock.
Ok - I have no idea what issue you’re having - but ok.
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