We've had a lot of conversations about this before, but I think the biggest issue with the CVs in general is that there's A lot of unknown information and no in game explanation. If they were to have something in game that could tell you this nonsense it wouldn't be nearly as frustrating. But instead it's all hidden, unexplained and the only way to know a lot of it is to notice it yourself or asking an older player. There's A ton of official videos about the way shells work or how something like SAP works but almost nothing on CV mechanics. There's like two videos on CVs and they are horribly outdated at this point. And there's practically no information about most of the CVs abilities or how things actually work, I think a lot of the frustration of CVs, both fighting and playing, comes from this issue.
I'm not a CV player, so the information you gave us in this video explains very clearly why I saw Russian CVs strike through flak consistently. Thank you :)
Also I don't comment on many TH-cam videos but I would like to say thanks for your vids. They've helped me go from a 40% win rate CV player to roughly 60%.
I already knew about the fighters and noticed that some planes looks a bit too tanky than supposed but damn never knew there was a continious AA réduction for the last flight
I knew about these mechanics and knew this line would be pretty much broken. The effective health of the planes is basically doubled and the ability for ignoring all fighters make any sort of "counterplay" (according to WG) useless. And getting close to these ships is a death setence when they are well protected by islands. They can just dump full squad after full squad in quick succession. Just another step into killing any fun in playing this game.
the reason fighters detag when they planes drop the final attack is because of an old bug which would cause fighters to kill your new squad by attacking old planes. numerous times with indomitable i'd lose a brand new squad launching from the carrier when my old squad would get attacked
@@itsReiWoWS it's not false, nor did I say it was specific to indomitable, I was stating the ship in which I most commonly saw my planes being destroyed on takeoff by my old squad being shot at
yep. As I stated in the beginning of the video, the equation used is different than 0.8.0. I only used that patch as an example. Right now in current patch though, the 30% is most likely close to 50% due to WG forcing plane losses.
FdR is only about farming dmg, if you want to perform well in it, based on the wows-numbers stats. Just farm, farm and farm again. Thats the carriers concept - kill everything else so fast, that your team has to shoot the DDs and kills them themselves.
FDR is very selfish and lack the tools for team play. Your sole purpose is to focus the BBs and kill them asap while permaspotting the enemy team while doing it. If you can't kill the BB fast enough, you're just farming the poor lad for the entirely of the game. Ignore rockets and stick to Bombers then Torpedo Bombers. Go for over 4+ bomb hits per drop and pick the BBs off one by one. A team without BBs is hard to properly hold back or push a flank.
I really do enjoy these types of videos. I am aware this video is 2 years old, I believe some of the mechanics have changed, any way to maybe update this to the current game play?
I just tried a carrier for the first time in years and the level of cancer that is the game design behind these, for the love of god don't let the designers of this gameplay ever design anything again in there life
with chacalov you cant even launch anything against the new ships with good AA, your whole squad just vanishes in 1 second. they are not broken but very bad in comparison to a fdr. but then again fdr is the most broken shit in the game besides thunderer and pedro.
I don't believe in using a line which is clearly broken all it does is piss off players and is bad for the game hell I -1 them if they come into ranked with a CV friend and foe
@@itsReiWoWS I know :( if someone does not care about karma nothing can stop them and this is not a direct attack on you just an attack on the ship class well until people go into ranked with them.... just seeing to many players leaving the game over things like CVs
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"some feared how broken they may be"
more like *predicted* how broken they may be
We've had a lot of conversations about this before, but I think the biggest issue with the CVs in general is that there's A lot of unknown information and no in game explanation. If they were to have something in game that could tell you this nonsense it wouldn't be nearly as frustrating. But instead it's all hidden, unexplained and the only way to know a lot of it is to notice it yourself or asking an older player. There's A ton of official videos about the way shells work or how something like SAP works but almost nothing on CV mechanics. There's like two videos on CVs and they are horribly outdated at this point. And there's practically no information about most of the CVs abilities or how things actually work, I think a lot of the frustration of CVs, both fighting and playing, comes from this issue.
The how it works series on CVs is also absolute outdated in some parts, would be better to delete the video to reduce confusion or misinformation.
Thanks Reimu. Very informative. It also makes sense now why the dev removed healing from RU CV planes
I'm not a CV player, so the information you gave us in this video explains very clearly why I saw Russian CVs strike through flak consistently. Thank you :)
Also I don't comment on many TH-cam videos but I would like to say thanks for your vids. They've helped me go from a 40% win rate CV player to roughly 60%.
that's actually HUGE wtf
@@itsReiWoWS asia server maybe?
Thanks for the tip, thought something was up when my plays with the Chkalov was disastrous until I just predrop all the time.
I already knew about the fighters and noticed that some planes looks a bit too tanky than supposed but damn never knew there was a continious AA réduction for the last flight
I knew about these mechanics and knew this line would be pretty much broken. The effective health of the planes is basically doubled and the ability for ignoring all fighters make any sort of "counterplay" (according to WG) useless. And getting close to these ships is a death setence when they are well protected by islands. They can just dump full squad after full squad in quick succession. Just another step into killing any fun in playing this game.
Side note: Attack aircraft during the strafing phase are invulnerable to AA and fighters
Nicely done!
Damn, I knew about the green phase flak reduction, but I had no idea about the other things mentioned in the video. Great video as always mate.
Wow is almost as if wg intended to give Russian carriers the best treatment when it comes to AA.
Nah they would never do that it's not something they would do in purpose without telling the community about.....not a wargaming thing really...
Meanwhile I swear that my IJN planes somehow take extra hidden damage.
@@keithw4920 I usted to play shokaku. The plane’s couldn’t make it past 3km from a ship.
Back to note taking with sensei reimu
I had all the planes shot down while in the attack phase by fighters
Thanks for your videos! now I just need to become even better.
Nice content, now I have to think about uploading myself :P
> Enterprise fighter build at 3:22
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Is that you in the video
Teamplei at its finest
Like you I love this line and it suits me... I've already ground out enough XP on Pobeda to research Nakhimov on day 1...
Howz this guidance in the latest version of the game holding up?
Everything is still the same. These mechanics are applied to all carriers
I WAS THERE!!! Pog 3:11
Well done video, love learning new things
Hidden mechanics that help Russian balans, expected.
yeah we need some instructions for the soviet carrier
the reason fighters detag when they planes drop the final attack is because of an old bug which would cause fighters to kill your new squad by attacking old planes. numerous times with indomitable i'd lose a brand new squad launching from the carrier when my old squad would get attacked
false, the fighter mechanic existed before indomitable was released
@@itsReiWoWS it's not false, nor did I say it was specific to indomitable, I was stating the ship in which I most commonly saw my planes being destroyed on takeoff by my old squad being shot at
So a lazy fix to that bug was to simply let fighters despawn :P, typical spagetti-code.
I feel that there is more hidden mechanics than the 30% while green. My Serov bombers survive much much longer than 30% reduction should allow.
yep. As I stated in the beginning of the video, the equation used is different than 0.8.0. I only used that patch as an example. Right now in current patch though, the 30% is most likely close to 50% due to WG forcing plane losses.
Can you post a vid on the Russian CV builds? I plan on trying them out when the tech tree becomes available.
Can you make more how to videos on the different ships? I still have great problems with eg the FDR...
FdR is only about farming dmg, if you want to perform well in it, based on the wows-numbers stats. Just farm, farm and farm again. Thats the carriers concept - kill everything else so fast, that your team has to shoot the DDs and kills them themselves.
FDR is very selfish and lack the tools for team play. Your sole purpose is to focus the BBs and kill them asap while permaspotting the enemy team while doing it. If you can't kill the BB fast enough, you're just farming the poor lad for the entirely of the game. Ignore rockets and stick to Bombers then Torpedo Bombers. Go for over 4+ bomb hits per drop and pick the BBs off one by one. A team without BBs is hard to properly hold back or push a flank.
@@itsReiWoWS WOW thanks for your reply! What in your opinion is the best team cv them?
I really do enjoy these types of videos. I am aware this video is 2 years old, I believe some of the mechanics have changed, any way to maybe update this to the current game play?
its all the same
I just tried a carrier for the first time in years and the level of cancer that is the game design behind these, for the love of god don't let the designers of this gameplay ever design anything again in there life
LOL at least you got to experience it first hand compared to the majority out there who don't dare touch the class even once
I really miss the old Carrier gameplay, it was refreshing to swap from the sort of FPS in a way to a more Strategy take with the top down view etc :(
Can you make cv video in convoy battle Reimu-san
Finally I can play Saipan...😜😂
Nooo ! now the DDs Mafia will fill reddit/forum with complain!
Интересная информация спасибо сынок 🤘
I still prefer IJN and USN and Germans
If you cant play...play CVs.
or play BBs / DDs :P seems to be the class people struggle with most lol
Dislike this video to keep this a secret from the average surface player n.n
with chacalov you cant even launch anything against the new ships with good AA, your whole squad just vanishes in 1 second. they are not broken but very bad in comparison to a fdr. but then again fdr is the most broken shit in the game besides thunderer and pedro.
I don't believe in using a line which is clearly broken all it does is piss off players and is bad for the game
hell I -1 them if they come into ranked with a CV friend and foe
if only reporting did anything tbh 🤣
@@itsReiWoWS I know :( if someone does not care about karma nothing can stop them and this is not a direct attack on you just an attack on the ship class well until people go into ranked with them....
just seeing to many players leaving the game over things like CVs
heute wieder nur unttttermenschen
Ah yes even more reason to hate CVs as a surface player. Thanks!
glad I could help!
This game sucks. And a major reason why it sucks are CVs and CV players.