Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Simmons... it’ll take an extraordinary effort from another rookie to offset this dude who’s damn near averaging a triple double
Lonzo makes 2 plays in the 4th quarter and somehow they win bc of him but when LeBron score 19 or 20 in the 4th, somehow it's his fault that they barely win. Makes sense
Kuzma is taking TOO much of Lonzo's SPOTLIGHT. Main Stream Media wants to downplay him. The Lakers don't want Kuzma OUTPLAYING Lonzo. Kuzma is the most consistent player on the team, even as a ROOKIE & everyone can SEE it. He has the most confidence. The Lakers DON'T like that either. He is currently leading the team in scoring(Which they won't allow). LUKE has been criticizing him the most & praising Lonzo. Instead of being happy to have TWO promising rookies. I feel sorry for Kuzma, his organization wants him to succeed...but they don't want him to exceed Lonzo(For reasons other than basketball). It's like that best friend who lowkey hates on you. ANYONE WITH EYES 👀 CAN SEE KUZMA SHOULD REMAIN A STARTER. But Larry Nance Jr will jump right back into the starting line up. Coming off a BROKEN HAND. & The Lakers will move their LEADING SCORER to the BENCH. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😩😩
Lonzo looks awful extremely inconsistent if you’re trying to win right now then there are guys out here playing much better Kuzma out here hooping... Tatum and all these guys playing much better
l lowkey.great l if you want to win games as in get to the playoffs at least then yes there are other rookies that could lead that offense like the man who torched him for 30+ whose in Sacramento right now
What is it about Lonzo Ball that he can't get a fair chance to grow into his NBA game?? HE IS JUST A ROOKIE. Of course he is inconsistent. Give him a fair chance grown into his game, and then judge him.
When your dad says you're better than Stephen Curry when you're in college, and all this about you, you will get scrutinized even more than sone other rookies. Tatum didn't get that and he's flying under the radar even though the Celtics are the league's best. Lauri is having a good year even though the Bulls are garbage. It's hype that has Lonzo under the spotlight
Diego Alvarez I know. But that was his crazy a** dad who said that nonsense. If it was Lonzo himself that said that, then I could understand all the scrutiny. There were plenty of rookies who struggled there first year in the NBA, and improved. Jason Kidd (the man everyone keeps comparing him to) was one of them.
Can someone explain to me besides scoring what is Lonzo bad at I’m waiting? Y’all talking like this man will shoot at this percentage for his career lmao 😂
Exactly his potential is thru the roof , excellent rebounder , passer , good shot blocking pg , g solid on ball defense(if u actually watch) , great off ball D , when he starts scoring it's over
Skip defended Tebow to the end as well guys. Don't forget. He has ZERO objectivity when his mind is made up. You can see his points from a mile away. Just have to sort through a thick layer of self assurance to see it. Romo, Tebow, Lonzo? Hates LeBron. Skip made himself wealthy doing exactly this. Do not expect change.
Let's call this show for what it is. Skip is a character who trolls the viewers with his crazy arguments and Shannon is always calling him out on it. Love it though
Lonzo is living a very tough life... His facing alot pressure that very few players have ever or experienced. His dad first; the league; medias; politicians... let's keep that in mind when you judge him
Kyky kaikai so was Lebron when he came in he was the hottest thing to come in the NBA still played great; he’s consistent that’s the KEY you can be bad or Okay but you have to be CONSISTENT
Matthew Harper I feel like ppl didn't mind LeBron suceeding. Ppl didn't care wether he was a bust or not. But in Lonzo's case, his father MAKES people wanna see him fail. LeBron never had a loudmouth father . Nobody was going for LeBron's head, like people are going for Lonzo's head. I do see where your coming from though, the pressure is immense, but it's negative pressure . Pressure LeBron didn't experience
Lonzo is going to turn out to be a great player. I don't understand how people are directing their hate for lavar to Lonzo,he is extremely likable and he is just a rookie!!!!
I mean as a Laker fan, speaking objective, I do appreciate him rebounding the way he does and faciliating the way he does. He's averaging 7.1 rpg and 6.9 apg. I also love the two triple doubles he got already so far. But college and NBA are two different worlds contrary to what Skip thinks. Now I'm not saying he's gonna be a bust (though he plays like one most of the time). He'll be fine once he finally get his scoring mechanics together..
FYI everyone has been a rookie these are not good stats for lanzo i just don't get it how much excuses is made for lanzo he needs to play better he was a #1 pick for God's sake
Lonzo's stats through 19 games: 9 points, 7.4 rebounds, 7.1 assists, 32% fg, 27% from 3. Jason Kidd's stats through his first 19 games: 8.6 points, 5.9 rebounds, 7.5 assists, 33% fg, 13% from 3. Now what were we talking about?
Damn 15 games into the season and already calling him a bust? How old is Lonzo? 19...20yrs old? He still a kid, people hate this kid so much they want him to fail. Judge this dude in 3-4 years, not 15 games into the season.
Skip , Who cares about lonzo shooting 41 percent for 3's in UCLA. For one everyone knows the college line is closer. The college talent is no wheres near the NBA level, half of those college players lonzo played vs in college are not making an NBA roster. The same guys lonzo played vs in college are working regular jobs now. Some of them might be taking our order at McDonald's now.
Michael Patterson people don't understand.. why wasn't jimmy F become a star he was going crazy at BYU.. but came to the league and now it's jimmy who?
Seymour Bunyan exactly. Your right. Basketball has different levels. A lot are just highscool superstars, A lot are college superstars. Few are NBA superstars.
Michael Patterson and if you watched his games you’d see he shot from a couple feet outside the 3 point line often in college, practically nba distance.
"KYLE KUZMA IS WAYYYY BETTER" .. People forget kyle kuzma is a 4 year senior at Utah dude is 23 years old!!!! Lonzo just turned 20 basically a teenager.
Damian Lillard, Tim Duncan, David Robinson(he's different that he had to serve his 2 year Navy commitment) all did 4 years and look how they turned out.
Lonzo is a point guard.. Grabbing rebounds like Shaq.. and passing like magic.. His shot selection will get better with time.. He will be in the hall of fame.. When it's all said and done.
Have you actually watched the games I have... Last night he was boxing out a Center in the 4th Qtr trying to get a rebound hes a damn good Rebounder, and them not guarding him has nothing to do with that hes getting defensive rebounds.
30 Rebounds in 2 games for a Rookie PG is absolutely ridiculous, The only thing people can complain about is his shot, hes rated the #2 Rookie Defender behind Ben Simmons and Top 5 in assists steals and Blocks. The league better hope his shot doesnt fall, because he does everything else very well.
Lonzo is a good (could become great) passer. He's one of the best guards in the NBA at rebounding. The way I see it, if he becomes an 80-85% FT shooter and develops a floater or a jump shot, he will be an All Star for years to come. Maybe he won't be a transformative talent that will change the NBA, but I can see him being a multiple time all star which would be enough to not be classified as a bust.
saul Serrano kuzma was also a 4yr starter in utah. Lonzo a kid still with alott of pressure on him from all the attention. In due time he'll be consistant. Has to build confidence in himself
I’m a diehard laker fan and I love Lonzo he’s changing the culture, and makes winning plays by second nature. He had his second triple double the other night. He’s doing just fine, people are just obsessed with scoring. Watch his whole game, he’s the best rebounding guard in the league already. Sheesh.
People clinging on to the one thing he does well... rebound. Nothing impressive, sorry to say. He steals rebounds from "big men" on his own team. He isn't the only one.. Westbrook just the same. These gaueds come steals rebounds and I'm not impressed. Lonzo can't shoot, can't defend...can pass (but less impressive than I expected) and can't do much of anything else. I'm sorry, he isn't going to magically shoot better. He needs to change his form to have any hope. This is no slump skip.
There are 6 players on the Lakers averaging double digit points (only team in the league). Why does everyone keep talking about Lonzo's scoring average? If anything, that speaks to him spreading the ball around and getting everyone involved. You got Ingram, Kuzma, KCP, Clarkson, Randle, Brook Lopez, and Larry Nance scoring 10+ a game ... where's the room for Lonzo? As soon as his outside shot starts to fall, no one will be saying anything. For me, the Lonzo Effect on the Lakers speaks for itself.
Lonzo is a game changer but the games we lost, its because he’s scoring less than 10 points. He have to work on atleast the mid range game and then the 3 ball later in his career. Take one step at a time. Lakers fans, he’s only 20, he’ll get better if he works hard. Kobe couldn’t shoot when he was young, and he became one of the best midrange shooters in the league. It takes time to develop
The answer is simple. He’s playing bad but they are winning games and are at the 8th seed. Once the problems are fixed they will be doing a lot more....
And just like I suspected he is the talk of news when no triple double happens or when he shoots bad even tho he contributed rebounds, played defense, and great outlet passes. But lets keep criticizing one thing over and over when that same problem can be fixed over time (his shooting)
AndraBeats Waaahh!!! You guys have the same excuse. Why does LaVar have so much clout to you? Is LaVar a scout? Does he work in the front office? Is he a analyst?
Michael Nguyen Tebow won a division title and a playoff game . Plus Ball was the number one pick in the draft and Tebow was picked with the last pick in the first round so he isnt even Tebow
lonzo has so much potential. Hes so smooth on the court its crazy, ive never seen a player so effortless at his best. But he disappears and that was his problem in college too
There's just nothing "great" about anything he does in the context of the NBA. Not even his passing. He can definitely develop into a competent PG in the NBA but right now there's no justifying him as a #2 pick. I want Lonzo to succeed but seriously I'll be shocked if he ever makes even one all-star appearance. And you can tout about the 2 triple doubles but in such a fast-paced league when the guy plays 40+ minutes it's honestly not that impressive when there's so many possessions. I watched the highlights of his recent triple double and there's not a single play he does that "wows" me except maybe a couple above average passes. I'm not dumb enough to write Lonzo off completely, but I really feel for the kid right now, and I never understood the hype for him. If you're not somewhat worried about him as a Lakers fan you're delusional. But at least Kuzma is a steal and they have young talent regardless.
JesusismyKing777 we talking about scoring about a guy that y’all knew wasn’t a scorer coming out of college he took ten shots a game at UCLA lmao 😂 let’s talk about every other aspect of the game Fox ain’t close does fox have a 29 point game? Does fox have a 16 rebound game? Does fox have a 14 assists game? Does fox lead all rookies in steals in blocks? Is fox ranked top 50 in defensive efficiency? Does Fox have multiple TDS? I rest my case
HOW IS HE A BUST HES THE YOUNGEST PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY TO DROP A TRIPLE DOUBLE WITH MORE TO COME SMH ALL PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IS SCORING HES NOT A SCORER
The lakers have been a losing team for the 2 seasons prior and expect reform to the showtime lakers? Everybody hyping Embiid but this is his 4th season, 2 & a half of waiting. The process took at least 4 years, rebuilds aren’t over night. Wait until next season. Kawhi wasn’t beastin until a few seasons in, people who don’t know basketball have the hardest opinions.
Dražen Keković 17 out of 18 games he was shooting below 50% from the field. He is shooting 23% beyond the arc, on a large volume. Neće on imati NBA karijeru ni kao tvoj imenjak, iako je ovaj igrao samo par sezona...
look people excusing lonzo's play and talking about wins. thats choppy excuse to not wanting to admit he needs to do a better job at knocking down those plethora of open shots he's being given, and btw even in the bulk of their wins his stats mirror this exact night. lets focus on the guy helping you get these W's in kuzma and the several other guys who play hard and knock down the shots that matter to keep you in the game.
James Lyons There are probably even more players, but other rookies don't have that many minutes in the game, and they aren't taking as many shots as Lonzo... With Lonzo's MPG, and amount of shots that he takes, there would be 20-30 2017-2018 rookies better then him.
Lonzo needs consistency. That's all what's need to be done on his game because we've seen that Zo can "3ple double" his games if he's focus. He doesn't need to showcase his 3pt shooting and his akward form. He just need to quarter back and score more by driving to the basket, rebound and ignite the transition engine for the Lakers.
Kyle Kuzma is the best player from this NBA draft then base off this topic Ben Simmons is in his 2nd year So lakers got the best rookie this year in kuzma based on stats right now And Lonzo a player that can average 10 ast 10 rebs
Shannon talkin about how bad lonzo is with his shot, but westbrook out here goin 5-22 6-19 in his last two games. He's shooting 39 percent this year as the reigning mvp... bad shooting runs happen, Zo will get it together just like westbrook will turn his percentage up.
Shannon sharpe is a prime of example of people who love looking at the box score and not watch the game. If you watch any lakers game you will see how lonzo picks up the slack in other areas that doesnt involve him scoring. Hes great defensively, rebounding, and setting up his team for easy baskets. Shannon talks about his assists last night but if the nba started recording “hockey assists” he would have had a bunch of those. It bothers me how shannon and SAS only talk about how bad hes shooting and are quick to call him a bust solely on that
TrollMasterFlex first off, point guard doesn't mean to get the inbound, walk it up court and just pass it too the wing. and just stand at the wing the rest of the possession. you wanna talk about watching him play. why don't you watch closer. watch him not cut, watch him just stand around. really watch!
Antonio Porter Ive almost every lakers game this season and him walking up the court and dishing it off just to stand in a corner was one thing I hated about him, but that was for about the first 7 or 8 games. He rarely does that anymore, hes trying to create plays and screen for his teammates instead of sitting in the corner doing nothing
TrollMasterFlex Not true I've watched almost ever game and Ball has gone games without having any impact on a game. He is underrated defensively though.
Haters just really harp on his shooting, yes it's atrocious, but the guy does every else well, plays solid D, Gets steals, blocks, elite passer and a tremendous rebounder.
Wolf Imma Bulls fan too. Hope Lavine and Markannen can become real good and need a top pick. Need Dunn to stop committing turnovers and with all the cap space, should be good next season in the East.
lonzo will be a bust. current nba as a guard you have to be able to score. he has no mid range. cant drive isnt strong enough to finish at the rim. his form is terrible and NBA defenders close out quicker so he has to release the ball faster hence the misses. cant play defense. and good chunk of his assists are passing to an open buy coming off a screen. no pick and roll setup assists. poor mans rubio. but rubio could play d. and a young kidd and rondo they could play d and drive
GawdKobe thank god you pointed that out cause if he didn’t pass the ball as much as do he could average 10+ points he got passed every guard that’s has guarded him
Seriously lonzo makes every player better makes the whole team work as one and everyone is happy and playing great defense. He really should be a mvp candidate not receiving all this criticism. The Lakers are winning games.
MVP candidate?, is beacuse of people like you that lakers fans have a reputation of being arrogants pricks that know nothing about basketball. I know some lakers fans and all they think he just need time and needs to stop shooting 3's
who cares Lonzo may be bad on points/shooting percent but he excels in rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks.. give him a break he just turned 20.. kuzma played 3 seasons in college, ben simmons had the last year off to just get ready for this season. You guys dont think he will get better???? give him time and he will grow as a player... you guys are judging him for his first 20 games?? Ben simmons should not be even considered a rookie, hes a sophmore. And the Lakers still have a better than expected record, even better than okc!
Who do you think will win Rookie of the Year this season?
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Simmons... it’ll take an extraordinary effort from another rookie to offset this dude who’s damn near averaging a triple double
Lonzo
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED jayson Tatum
Lonzos a bust
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Ben Simmons.
I'm a laker fan but damn they talk bout this kid every episode
Dub Snac they have 4 topics every day Lebron,Lonzo, Cowboys,Tom Brady
So true, I agree.
Do you guys think he's a bust?
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Dub Snac I forgot who even got picked number 1 this year lol
You don't want them to talk about him because they're rubbing it in your face that he's trash?
Dub Snac Everybody uses his name and his family for clicks and views. Disgrace. The view count is always up though so they get what they want.
Lonzo makes 2 plays in the 4th quarter and somehow they win bc of him but when LeBron score 19 or 20 in the 4th, somehow it's his fault that they barely win. Makes sense
Lol by skips logic
fuddyduddie1 game 6 2013
Against the Clippers..a couple games ago, he scored 16 points in the 4th quarter and 3 points in Overtime..combining for 19 points.
fuddyduddie1 game 6 2013 also had 11 out of 18 in the 4th game 7 2016
Lonzo isn't the best player in the league
Shannon talks
Skip: mhmm mhmmm yep mhmm mhm mhm ok mhmmm
Aaron332_Lyrics It's what you do when you've got no points to say :D
Only thing consistent with Lonzo Ball is his media coverage LoL
Good game or horrible game.... media running to lonzo , gotta get those ratings up.
Lmaooo
Tatum > Lonzo
Simmons > Lonzo
Kuzma > Lonzo
Fox > Lonzo
Markaneen > Lonzo
Trump > Lonzo
D JR. > Lonzo
You > Lonzo
World Combo Facts
And Dennis smith jr
Fox??? Dennis smith is Much better
me>lonzo
I wanted them to draft fox
Kuzma is taking TOO much of Lonzo's SPOTLIGHT. Main Stream Media wants to downplay him. The Lakers don't want Kuzma OUTPLAYING Lonzo. Kuzma is the most consistent player on the team, even as a ROOKIE & everyone can SEE it. He has the most confidence. The Lakers DON'T like that either. He is currently leading the team in scoring(Which they won't allow). LUKE has been criticizing him the most & praising Lonzo. Instead of being happy to have TWO promising rookies. I feel sorry for Kuzma, his organization wants him to succeed...but they don't want him to exceed Lonzo(For reasons other than basketball). It's like that best friend who lowkey hates on you. ANYONE WITH EYES 👀 CAN SEE KUZMA SHOULD REMAIN A STARTER. But Larry Nance Jr will jump right back into the starting line up. Coming off a BROKEN HAND. & The Lakers will move their LEADING SCORER to the BENCH. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😩😩
🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒
so tru
Lil Houseph
Why wouldn't they like that. Just means they have a future with players like Lonzo & Kuzma.
Lil Housephone WHO. CARES
Lonzo looks awful extremely inconsistent if you’re trying to win right now then there are guys out here playing much better Kuzma out here hooping... Tatum and all these guys playing much better
Troy Stewart won right now with this team there 5 to 6 years away from that
Troy Stewart win right now ? They have to wait til the Warriors dynasty falls off to compete for a championship.
l lowkey.great l if you want to win games as in get to the playoffs at least then yes there are other rookies that could lead that offense like the man who torched him for 30+ whose in Sacramento right now
l lowkey.great l And if they really think that Laker fans are gonna wait THAT LONG...
+TrollMaster500 he's trash he affects nothing lol
This is starting to bring me back to the first take tim tebow days...
Mac Twan Where people like Skip stayed in COMPLETE DENIAL about what was going on with him.
"The coach taking guys out the game if they guard him" - 😂 😂 lmfao
"The coach takin' guys out the game if they guard him!" LMAO😂😂😂😂😂
lonzo cut his hair again just to look like kuzma. So when kuzma is playing great the reports will think ball is kuzma.
JAY C hahaha hahaha
Hahahaha ahaha knee slapper! Keep up the laughs that was so funny! Thank you sir I nearly spit my milk out from the laughs
I’m dead haha
Hehe
If you look up brian scalabrine highlights, you'll see flashes of brilliance from him as well skip
but he's the GOAT
Um if lebron would have done what lonzo did in the last 7 mins skip would have said lebron isnt clutch
don't compare a rookie to the king
A Tribe Called Quest *a peasant
he's not comparing, he's pointing out the hypocrisy of skip bayless
Nathaniel ! LMAO
Thank you i thought the same thing
"The coach is taking guys out of the guy if they guard him, shoot I dare you, I double dare you" lol man that killed me softly.
Skip would try to convince you Paul Blart Mall Cop is a better movie than the Shawshank Redemption.
What is it about Lonzo Ball that he can't get a fair chance to grow into his NBA game?? HE IS JUST A ROOKIE. Of course he is inconsistent. Give him a fair chance grown into his game, and then judge him.
When your dad says you're better than Stephen Curry when you're in college, and all this about you, you will get scrutinized even more than sone other rookies. Tatum didn't get that and he's flying under the radar even though the Celtics are the league's best. Lauri is having a good year even though the Bulls are garbage. It's hype that has Lonzo under the spotlight
Diego Alvarez I know. But that was his crazy a** dad who said that nonsense. If it was Lonzo himself that said that, then I could understand all the scrutiny. There were plenty of rookies who struggled there first year in the NBA, and improved. Jason Kidd (the man everyone keeps comparing him to) was one of them.
I do hope Lonzo succeeds, I really do. But it's the media that eats up words for money.
Blame his father, LaVar
Can someone explain to me besides scoring what is Lonzo bad at I’m waiting? Y’all talking like this man will shoot at this percentage for his career lmao 😂
Jared A no he‘s a pretty good defender actually lol he can block, steal and also stays suprisingly well in front of his match-up
Exactly his potential is thru the roof , excellent rebounder , passer , good shot blocking pg , g solid on ball defense(if u actually watch) , great off ball D , when he starts scoring it's over
Defense he just lets players fly by him with little to no effort.
WINNING he sucks at that, he is bad at defending the GOOD PLAYERS, and he is bad at living up to his hype. Boom there you go
Lol we've never seen a rookie shoot this bad, you wouldn't pick a player like him at your gym
Skip defended Tebow to the end as well guys. Don't forget. He has ZERO objectivity when his mind is made up. You can see his points from a mile away. Just have to sort through a thick layer of self assurance to see it. Romo, Tebow, Lonzo? Hates LeBron. Skip made himself wealthy doing exactly this. Do not expect change.
True. Skip is the ultimate troll. He will defend his views up til the very end.. and laugh all the way to the bank!
Let's call this show for what it is. Skip is a character who trolls the viewers with his crazy arguments and Shannon is always calling him out on it. Love it though
Lonzo hits a 3 with 6 minutes left and Skip thinks he’s incredible. LeBron misses 1 out of 4 made threes in the last 3 minutes and he can’t close. 😑
Lonzo is living a very tough life... His facing alot pressure that very few players have ever or experienced. His dad first; the league; medias; politicians... let's keep that in mind when you judge him
Kyky kaikai so was Lebron when he came in he was the hottest thing to come in the NBA still played great; he’s consistent that’s the KEY you can be bad or Okay but you have to be CONSISTENT
Matthew Harper I feel like ppl didn't mind LeBron suceeding. Ppl didn't care wether he was a bust or not. But in Lonzo's case, his father MAKES people wanna see him fail. LeBron never had a loudmouth father . Nobody was going for LeBron's head, like people are going for Lonzo's head. I do see where your coming from though, the pressure is immense, but it's negative pressure . Pressure LeBron didn't experience
Lonzo is going to turn out to be a great player.
I don't understand how people are directing their hate for lavar to Lonzo,he is extremely likable and he is just a rookie!!!!
You've got to love skip. He always keeps it interesting even if he gets to be the devil's advocate.
Kuzma> Lonzo Don't @ me
GERALDDAGOAT y u say dont @ you ?
Ben Simmons better than both Kuzma and Lonzo don't @ me
Lmfao.. coach taking you out game if you guard him(lonzo)...shannon is a savage
skip1837 😂😂😂
He a rookie so I aint tripping but I do feel why Lakers fans should be mad
I mean as a Laker fan, speaking objective, I do appreciate him rebounding the way he does and faciliating the way he does. He's averaging 7.1 rpg and 6.9 apg. I also love the two triple doubles he got already so far. But college and NBA are two different worlds contrary to what Skip thinks. Now I'm not saying he's gonna be a bust (though he plays like one most of the time). He'll be fine once he finally get his scoring mechanics together..
When was the last time someone got so much hype in nba and can’t even put the ball on the rim
Daniel Vargas Lol right
Lavar rides hard for his boy hahaha
Imagine if Lebron had lonzo stats. Skip would go off 😂
GawdKobe you right bro
FYI everyone has been a rookie these are not good stats for lanzo i just don't get it how much excuses is made for lanzo he needs to play better he was a #1 pick for God's sake
Dee Rogers so back to back triple doubles?
Black Dynamite
He was the number 2 pick, is playing good for a rookie ranked in the top 4?as of today so shut up
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Lonzo's stats through 19 games: 9 points, 7.4 rebounds, 7.1 assists, 32% fg, 27% from 3.
Jason Kidd's stats through his first 19 games: 8.6 points, 5.9 rebounds, 7.5 assists, 33% fg, 13% from 3.
Now what were we talking about?
Damn 15 games into the season and already calling him a bust? How old is Lonzo? 19...20yrs old? He still a kid, people hate this kid so much they want him to fail. Judge this dude in 3-4 years, not 15 games into the season.
Skip , Who cares about lonzo shooting 41 percent for 3's in UCLA. For one everyone knows the college line is closer. The college talent is no wheres near the NBA level, half of those college players lonzo played vs in college are not making an NBA roster. The same guys lonzo played vs in college are working regular jobs now. Some of them might be taking our order at McDonald's now.
Michael Patterson people don't understand.. why wasn't jimmy F become a star he was going crazy at BYU.. but came to the league and now it's jimmy who?
Seymour Bunyan exactly. Your right. Basketball has different levels. A lot are just highscool superstars, A lot are college superstars. Few are NBA superstars.
lol half of those players aren't making the NBA? more like 90% lmao. Sure college players are decent but it's safe to say most can never go pr0.
Michael Patterson and if you watched his games you’d see he shot from a couple feet outside the 3 point line often in college, practically nba distance.
"KYLE KUZMA IS WAYYYY BETTER" .. People forget kyle kuzma is a 4 year senior at Utah dude is 23 years old!!!! Lonzo just turned 20 basically a teenager.
Erik Sarkisian they are both rookies, lonzo willingly chose to go 1 and done.
Damian Lillard, Tim Duncan, David Robinson(he's different that he had to serve his 2 year Navy commitment) all did 4 years and look how they turned out.
Tatum 19 wtf do u say now Tatum playing way better than him
22 years old
You forget that that top 10 picks were all damn near the same age ☝️
Lavar fooled a lot of people. And still fooling Skip
Michael Patterson Yup
They're still 8th in the west surprisingly
Kameron Powell That'll change. Trust...
Kameron Powell when December hits that will change unfortunately
No they're not, they have never been 8th. Jesus all these people and their misinformation.
Mektek19 go ahead and check the standings before you comment yeah?
BannedOnTV I meant the other guy😂😂
Lonzo is a point guard.. Grabbing rebounds like Shaq.. and passing like magic.. His shot selection will get better with time.. He will be in the hall of fame.. When it's all said and done.
30 rebounds in the last 2 Games lol.
Have you actually watched the games I have... Last night he was boxing out a Center in the 4th Qtr trying to get a rebound hes a damn good Rebounder, and them not guarding him has nothing to do with that hes getting defensive rebounds.
30 Rebounds in 2 games for a Rookie PG is absolutely ridiculous, The only thing people can complain about is his shot, hes rated the #2 Rookie Defender behind Ben Simmons and Top 5 in assists steals and Blocks. The league better hope his shot doesnt fall, because he does everything else very well.
Chris Jenkins didn't know point guards were supposed to rebound, I guess the bigs will have to shoot lmao #BigBallerBust
2 point game against a rookie rival, show me a 1st overall pick that did that and wasn't a bust
Kavin Karunathilaka show me a rookie that has multiple TDS and was a bust
Skip is great at creating arguments if u allow him. he knows Lavar is his tebow...mansel n now his Dak.
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Lonzo need to stop worrying about lighting up that vocal booth and start torching dudes on the court. 🔥🔥🔥
Lonzo is a good (could become great) passer. He's one of the best guards in the NBA at rebounding. The way I see it, if he becomes an 80-85% FT shooter and develops a floater or a jump shot, he will be an All Star for years to come. Maybe he won't be a transformative talent that will change the NBA, but I can see him being a multiple time all star which would be enough to not be classified as a bust.
I'm I the only ones watching this to find out what Shannon got to say?! Like if I am wrong.
Lonzo looking like the Tim Tebow of basketball for Skip 😂😂😂
Kuzma is way better then lonzo.The boy can’t shoot at the line,the 3, or the paint.He was not worth that high of a pick.
saul Serrano kuzma was also a 4yr starter in utah. Lonzo a kid still with alott of pressure on him from all the attention. In due time he'll be consistant. Has to build confidence in himself
~Skip Bayless~
“he came in, in attack mode”
~Shay Sharpe~
“three points, one assist”
YOu talk about Lonzo 10 times and once about Ben Simmons. Maybe that ratio shows that you are haters. Well at least Shannon is ☝️
I’m a diehard laker fan and I love Lonzo he’s changing the culture, and makes winning plays by second nature. He had his second triple double the other night. He’s doing just fine, people are just obsessed with scoring. Watch his whole game, he’s the best rebounding guard in the league already. Sheesh.
BBB = Bench that Baller Bust
Samuel Westknee yeah oh YES
Samuel Westknee tee hee
02:00 "joy is smart enough" ... joy's look and tongue action after that though
People clinging on to the one thing he does well... rebound. Nothing impressive, sorry to say. He steals rebounds from "big men" on his own team. He isn't the only one.. Westbrook just the same. These gaueds come steals rebounds and I'm not impressed.
Lonzo can't shoot, can't defend...can pass (but less impressive than I expected) and can't do much of anything else.
I'm sorry, he isn't going to magically shoot better. He needs to change his form to have any hope. This is no slump skip.
danielgalea lol Lonzo can do all the things you said he can't. Hopefully the scoring will become more efficient.
megustapastel123 where? Why don't we see it?
danielgalea you do see it. You watch games? Or does your basketball knowledge come from blogs? Pretty sure it's the latter.
Shannon won't say it I will bust lmao 😂
Steals the rebounds from brook Lopez? Who averaged 5 rebounds a game last year? FOH
There are 6 players on the Lakers averaging double digit points (only team in the league). Why does everyone keep talking about Lonzo's scoring average? If anything, that speaks to him spreading the ball around and getting everyone involved. You got Ingram, Kuzma, KCP, Clarkson, Randle, Brook Lopez, and Larry Nance scoring 10+ a game ... where's the room for Lonzo? As soon as his outside shot starts to fall, no one will be saying anything. For me, the Lonzo Effect on the Lakers speaks for itself.
Molly or Joy, who y’all taking?
Sahid Maldonado Molly all the way
Joyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Joy fine af
Sahid Maldonado “Joyyyy, Joyyyy, Joyyyyyyyyy!”- (BlackStreet voice)
Joy with molly voice!
Lonzo is a game changer but the games we lost, its because he’s scoring less than 10 points. He have to work on atleast the mid range game and then the 3 ball later in his career. Take one step at a time. Lakers fans, he’s only 20, he’ll get better if he works hard. Kobe couldn’t shoot when he was young, and he became one of the best midrange shooters in the league. It takes time to develop
Jamari Riddick lol dude u comparing lonzo to kobe?! Srsly...
Dumbest question ever
The answer is simple. He’s playing bad but they are winning games and are at the 8th seed. Once the problems are fixed they will be doing a lot more....
BestBaller33 YT it's the beginning of the season, I doubt the lakers will make the playoffs.
EVER?
Oh I dont know about that.
BestBaller33 YT Lonzo at worst will be a 15-5-5 player. People need to give him some time to develop, it's only his first season. 😂
Dumb if you are a Lonzo groupie trying to protect him like he's your girlfriend
The only time I agree with skip
They got Kuzma anyway, who cares about Lonzo.
Here’s a game: Take a shot every time Shannon says “skiup” and every time skip says “mmm”
And just like I suspected he is the talk of news when no triple double happens or when he shoots bad even tho he contributed rebounds, played defense, and great outlet passes. But lets keep criticizing one thing over and over when that same problem can be fixed over time (his shooting)
LORD KEITH They ain't even talking about the Lakers being 8th in the West with a better record than the Clippers...lol!!
LORD KEITH AND KEVIN
HipHopR&BLover Jon and the thunder lmao
AndraBeats Waaahh!!! You guys have the same excuse. Why does LaVar have so much clout to you? Is LaVar a scout? Does he work in the front office? Is he a analyst?
LORD KEITH all kinds of sensationalism... All kindsss
Skip is right, Lonzo will be great one day. #TeamLonzo
Skip “mmmmm’s” so much. Over 10 times this video
Lonzo ball is magic Johnson with a jumpshot
Lonzo Ball is the new Tim Tebow.
Michael Nguyen Tebow won a division title and a playoff game . Plus Ball was the number one pick in the draft and Tebow was picked with the last pick in the first round so he isnt even Tebow
Christian Soldier ball was the #2 pick in the draft
Christian Soldier ball was the #2 pick in the draft
lonzo has so much potential. Hes so smooth on the court its crazy, ive never seen a player so effortless at his best. But he disappears and that was his problem in college too
They treat him like he has played 5 years in the nba, he's a kid cut him some slack
I mean I agree but can’t get mad when his dad says my son better then curry he put that on his kid
COME ON SKIEUP!!!
There's just nothing "great" about anything he does in the context of the NBA. Not even his passing. He can definitely develop into a competent PG in the NBA but right now there's no justifying him as a #2 pick. I want Lonzo to succeed but seriously I'll be shocked if he ever makes even one all-star appearance.
And you can tout about the 2 triple doubles but in such a fast-paced league when the guy plays 40+ minutes it's honestly not that impressive when there's so many possessions. I watched the highlights of his recent triple double and there's not a single play he does that "wows" me except maybe a couple above average passes.
I'm not dumb enough to write Lonzo off completely, but I really feel for the kid right now, and I never understood the hype for him. If you're not somewhat worried about him as a Lakers fan you're delusional. But at least Kuzma is a steal and they have young talent regardless.
Im with Shannon on this one all the way
Let him be got damn 🤦🏾♂️
5 years later you never ever hear about Lonzo on Undisputed, wish Shannon would bring that up.
DeAaron Fox breaking him off tonight...book it!
JesusismyKing777 is gone be a good game
JesusismyKing777 tell him to start first
You right Lonzo plays more minutes and scores less points per game...why is that? Do me a favor and look at Lonzos FG% and FT%...ROFL
JesusismyKing777 we talking about scoring about a guy that y’all knew wasn’t a scorer coming out of college he took ten shots a game at UCLA lmao 😂 let’s talk about every other aspect of the game Fox ain’t close does fox have a 29 point game? Does fox have a 16 rebound game? Does fox have a 14 assists game? Does fox lead all rookies in steals in blocks? Is fox ranked top 50 in defensive efficiency? Does Fox have multiple TDS? I rest my case
JesusismyKing777 yeah because fox is just shooting like curry huh ?😂
She is BANGIN!
*Lavar Ball will walk back into a bush to hide like that one Homer Simpson meme, when he sees Lonzo is actually a bust* 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was thinking that exact same thing wish I had it with the BBB on his chest lol
David Henderson lmao..a meme magician will hear this and create it. Youll see.
Production LA getting from their rookies compare to other is amazing, LA got a steal with Kuzma and Ball. Simmons is amazing.
HOW IS HE A BUST HES THE YOUNGEST PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY TO DROP A TRIPLE DOUBLE WITH MORE TO COME SMH ALL PEOPLE CARE ABOUT IS SCORING HES NOT A SCORER
Big PapiJT One word...INCONSISTENT.
Brent Foster inconsistent with scoring because he's not one
Big PapiJT So because he's the youngest to have a triple double he's a future superstar? Dumb.
VrQz Silent #MarkkanenROY what makes lauri a future star?
VrQz Silent #MarkkanenROY I'm a bulls fan and I'll tell you I agree markkanen is roty but lonzo was drafted to win games not fill up the stat sheet
The lakers have been a losing team for the 2 seasons prior and expect reform to the showtime lakers? Everybody hyping Embiid but this is his 4th season, 2 & a half of waiting. The process took at least 4 years, rebuilds aren’t over night. Wait until next season. Kawhi wasn’t beastin until a few seasons in, people who don’t know basketball have the hardest opinions.
Lonzo’s played 18 games... he’s had some good games, and some horrible games. Give it time... I can see him being like Jason Kidd.
Dražen Keković 17 out of 18 games he was shooting below 50% from the field. He is shooting 23% beyond the arc, on a large volume.
Neće on imati NBA karijeru ni kao tvoj imenjak, iako je ovaj igrao samo par sezona...
look people excusing lonzo's play and talking about wins. thats choppy excuse to not wanting to admit he needs to do a better job at knocking down those plethora of open shots he's being given, and btw even in the bulk of their wins his stats mirror this exact night. lets focus on the guy helping you get these W's in kuzma and the several other guys who play hard and knock down the shots that matter to keep you in the game.
Lonzo need to be more aggressive, after the season the lakers can change his form if necessary and he will be solid
All rookies in the NBA>lonzo
DivineTiger97
Not according to the nba he ranks 4th
James Lyons According to the NBA, he is the worst in 3pt percentage of all players in the league...
Luka Popovic
Well even with the 3 point shooting he is still 4th so what’s your point?
James Lyons Who says he's the 4th rookie ?
Simmons,
Kuzma,
Markkanen,
Collins,
Fox,
Bogdanovic
are all better then Lonzo
James Lyons There are probably even more players, but other rookies don't have that many minutes in the game, and they aren't taking as many shots as Lonzo... With Lonzo's MPG, and amount of shots that he takes, there would be 20-30 2017-2018 rookies better then him.
Lonzo needs consistency. That's all what's need to be done on his game because we've seen that Zo can "3ple double" his games if he's focus. He doesn't need to showcase his 3pt shooting and his akward form.
He just need to quarter back and score more by driving to the basket, rebound and ignite the transition engine for the Lakers.
Kyle Kuzma is the best player from this NBA draft then base off this topic
Ben Simmons is in his 2nd year
So lakers got the best rookie this year in kuzma based on stats right now
And Lonzo a player that can average 10 ast 10 rebs
BlackHippy27 Did Dennis Smith Jr, Tatum, Fox, and Markkenen all die? Some of them show flashes of greatness comparable to Kwame Brown's rookie season.
Tatum has been better than Kuzma
Bostonzo B Tatum has the better team, Kuzma would be doing even better on that team. Give me Kuz over Tatum
Kuzma has better stats then Tatum
Kuzmas the best rookie on the lakers bro...not out of the rookie class......smith jr, simmons and tatum are the best
The coach talking him out the game if they guard him😂😂!! Shannon is gold, had Joy dead.
Biggest bust ever
Bob The builder never heard of Gregg Oden huh clown
Kwame Brown
Reaching
Anthony Bennett
Shannon talkin about how bad lonzo is with his shot, but westbrook out here goin 5-22 6-19 in his last two games. He's shooting 39 percent this year as the reigning mvp... bad shooting runs happen, Zo will get it together just like westbrook will turn his percentage up.
Shannon sharpe is a prime of example of people who love looking at the box score and not watch the game. If you watch any lakers game you will see how lonzo picks up the slack in other areas that doesnt involve him scoring. Hes great defensively, rebounding, and setting up his team for easy baskets. Shannon talks about his assists last night but if the nba started recording “hockey assists” he would have had a bunch of those. It bothers me how shannon and SAS only talk about how bad hes shooting and are quick to call him a bust solely on that
TrollMasterFlex well maybe they’re mad because he’s shooting poorly therefore losing possessions when he’s a pass first point guard
Shannon never called him a bust
TrollMasterFlex first off, point guard doesn't mean to get the inbound, walk it up court and just pass it too the wing. and just stand at the wing the rest of the possession. you wanna talk about watching him play. why don't you watch closer. watch him not cut, watch him just stand around. really watch!
Antonio Porter Ive almost every lakers game this season and him walking up the court and dishing it off just to stand in a corner was one thing I hated about him, but that was for about the first 7 or 8 games. He rarely does that anymore, hes trying to create plays and screen for his teammates instead of sitting in the corner doing nothing
TrollMasterFlex Not true I've watched almost ever game and Ball has gone games without having any impact on a game. He is underrated defensively though.
Haters just really harp on his shooting, yes it's atrocious, but the guy does every else well, plays solid D, Gets steals, blocks, elite passer and a tremendous rebounder.
All that's cool and stuff but where the thots at tho
Calling anyone a bust this early in their rookie season is ridiculous.
Lonzo the
al silver Bust
You can't criticize Lonzo Every Game "one game he's a bust" One Game " He's the next Magic Johnson" Give The kid Time
*Lauri Markkenen* will be a better player than *Lonzo Ball* 💯🔥
Wolf agreed
Ryan Bahia hope he'll b better than nowitzki too. Lol my bulls need anything they can get
Wolf Markenen is trash lol
Dark Auron you don't know basketball with that opinion.
Wolf Imma Bulls fan too. Hope Lavine and Markannen can become real good and need a top pick. Need Dunn to stop committing turnovers and with all the cap space, should be good next season in the East.
"He might as well go bald headed, try anything!"
😂😂
bust
he already rebounds and passes at a high level. If he can improve his scoring ability (i.e driving to the basket and posting up) hes gonna be elite
lonzo will be a bust. current nba as a guard you have to be able to score. he has no mid range. cant drive isnt strong enough to finish at the rim. his form is terrible and NBA defenders close out quicker so he has to release the ball faster hence the misses. cant play defense. and good chunk of his assists are passing to an open buy coming off a screen. no pick and roll setup assists. poor mans rubio. but rubio could play d. and a young kidd and rondo they could play d and drive
GawdKobe thank god you pointed that out cause if he didn’t pass the ball as much as do he could average 10+ points he got passed every guard that’s has guarded him
I watch every game........so do the NBA experts
1:55 I love when Shannon does the grandma voice lmao
Seriously lonzo makes every player better makes the whole team work as one and everyone is happy and playing great defense. He really should be a mvp candidate not receiving all this criticism. The Lakers are winning games.
What are you smoking? Lol lonzo is overrated.
MVP candidate?, is beacuse of people like you that lakers fans have a reputation of being arrogants pricks that know nothing about basketball. I know some lakers fans and all they think he just need time and needs to stop shooting 3's
zhaoo Zhao dude give me some of the stuff you are smoking because I want to be that high to say Lonzo is a mvp candidate
just laker/lonzo haters but i totally agree w/ your statement and for people who don think so watch the games
zhaoo Zhao idk about all that
who cares Lonzo may be bad on points/shooting percent but he excels in rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks.. give him a break he just turned 20.. kuzma played 3 seasons in college, ben simmons had the last year off to just get ready for this season. You guys dont think he will get better???? give him time and he will grow as a player... you guys are judging him for his first 20 games?? Ben simmons should not be even considered a rookie, hes a sophmore. And the Lakers still have a better than expected record, even better than okc!
hes a good asset to any team...........
Jimmy Fredditt LMFAO Sharpe you can't be serious with that ahahhahah