Define your version of technology. A flaked chip of flint is an example of cutting technology. Using stone and abrasive grinding to shape other stones is also technology.
@@Eyes_Open I´m just a dude in a comment section so as you, don't ask me for proof, but doesn´t have to be a genius to see something odd is happening with those artifacts, an at least this people are doing something about it instead of just labeling and put them on display.
@@tenebrafallen So we should ignore Denys Stocks work from 30 years ago and the experiments shown on the Scientists Against Myths and Sacred Geometry Decoded channels? Those people actually performed work instead of just making negative claims.
apart from being here for the comment lols - you need to do some engineering homework. Even Petrie acknowledged and presented significant proof that these were turned on a lathe with an unknown cutting instrument. Those are probably shist (or andecite, or porphory) or other VERY hard, VERY brittle stones. It's also quite the conundrum that these only ever seem to be 'inherited' pieces from the predynastic or 1st/2nd dynasty - even the museum at Saqqara where over 40K of these were found acknowledge this. After this, they seem to have lost the ability to create these, although they tried to imitate them in alasbaster, a much softer stone (and with far less symmetrical and precise results). These are not the result of primitive tools - and nor I think the result of the dynastic civilization as we know it.
Uncharted x claiming someone needs to do engineering homework is just priceless. Let me know when you’ll take up the livestream challenge and do those things you claim to be impossible in real time on camera for everyone to see. You ask for the tests then run and hide. Seeing you jump out the window to escape the Serapeum questions was priceless. Anytime anywhere. Maybe organise to have Christopher Dunn replicate his totally not faked granite experiment. I’m sure you could organise someone to take his place and operate the drill. You should keep yourself to where you can censor and shadow ban. Anytime, just let me know when you become a man.
Never a single provable piece of evidence in your comments. Petrie would be embarrassed to hear your references to his work. Perhaps you should switch occupations to become a chef. Your hand picked cherry pies would be world class.
@Eyes Open The two channels you mention do not actually do what ancient Egyptians supposedly did. SGD uses marble and not porphyry or granite to produce a stone bowl which is the same material Olga uses. As you know marble is a softer stone and easier to work which is why later civilisations used it. The tubular drill demonstration by S.A.Myths are using metal clamps to steady the wood which is torqued down, but the real problem I have with the copper tools cutting granite is that it doesn't appear to be an economical use of copper, especially the way it is used. The copper is ground down to an unrecoverable powder mixed into the slurry. Also how do you propose the egyptians fabricate long tubes, the one being used by SAM was a seamless water pipe extruded in a factory. While it is possible to forge an ignot around the die, that die is usually made of steel, forging copper on copper is challenging as the die gets deformed. If tube drills are consumed in large quantity on a building project they must be easy to make which suggests it maybe just a bent unjoined sheet but those cannot drill deep without flexing.
@@sandyzeatyahoo What a remarkable collection of wrongness. The Egyptians did make stone vessels of alabaster and marble. I also used the same tools on granite to drill and cut and so when i make a granite version i know it will work. The metal clamps are what you object to? They even point out in the video just have someone stand on a bigger piece of wood to keep it from moving. Once the drill is down a few millimetres you don't need to guide anymore. Copper is not ground down into an unrecoverable powder, it's in the slurry and you pan it out like gold dust. It's very recoverable. How did they fabricate long tubes? Take a sheet of copper and roll it up. Have you seen their fine work with jewellery and weapons? But a tube you find difficult to understand? The copper wears at a very slow rate. They are not consumed in large quantities. I made my own pipes from 0.6 mm and 1.2mm annealed copper sheets. When you roll them up they are work hardened. SAM also cast a copper tube in a demo. They use the lost wax method and casting copper and other metals in sand and clay has been done from the very start of the copper age. They still use sand and clay moulds now for casting. Who told you all this nonsense?
@@Eyes_Open you can agree or disagree with his claims, but scientific studies have been done by professionals to the vases, and the results are there for everyone, and of a massive significance. videos like this one are ridiculous at this point.
@@tenebrafallen Scientific studies? Which scientific journal published the findings? Professionals with what relevant ancient stone working experience? Are the raw data available to all or just the processed STL file? Authenticity of vase origin? Any proof of the negative claims?
This is an insult to a great people. Look at the colossal statues of the Pharaohs, some carved of extreme hard stone; I suppose the Egyptians didn't make them either.
Try explaining why the first ones made of very hard stones like granite, diorite etc are so much better and more impressive than those that were made after of alabaster a much softer stone and there seems to be a big sudden collapse in knowledge and skills of making them when they should have just kept getting better. Same with many other things in Egypt.
@@Eyes_Open The further back in time we go the more easily we can be wrong and that it’s good to take some alternative points of view into consideration because there has been people who were ridiculed for giving an alternative point of view when new discoveries decades later proved them right all along.
Funny how the ancient Greeks never claimed to invent the things they are given credit by the Europeans hundreds and thousands of years later. We now know that the ancient Egyptians knew about the math that the Greeks knew. Yet the Greeks and Romans never made vases as well as these that were made thousands of years earlier. Some of these vases would take a very high level of engineering knowledge and very precise machines to make them. Some people see pretty vases, but I see thousands of years of development to get to that point. I also have a machining degree, and that makes me even more impressed with these vases.
KIDS MUST READ THIS , have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay. Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event. Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years. That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”
Hello, I wish they would stop saying osirus, lord of the Underworld. Osirus was green because the first time orion appeared each year , was springtime in egypt.He represented rebirth in nature, his brother set was the dark one of the family. Set represented what we now call Virgo, the first time Virgo appears is the beginning of autumn, the cold dark part of the year in Egypt.
Great, please why do you date them to 5,000 years ago ? Isn't Andesite only workable with carborundum or even diamond dust ? Pritty well done pre flood art in my opinion ... that should require much more attention
Not so much have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay. Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event. Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years. That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”
@@kalebgullan4157 There was no global reset due to a YD cataclysm. And there is nothing that could not be recreated today if there was a will and a budget. When someone asks "where are the tools", remember to tell them that they are already found in the archarological records.
Why does it feel like this 5000 year old technology was lost and those vases were never repeated in such advanced detail, and how can one explain 40,000 of those vases in Djoser pyramid?
@@Eyes_Open no man, its 0.1mm precision, there is a video on youtube how they tried to recreate this vase, took them 6 months and it looked awful, very bent edges and stuff. Those vases are made from extremely hard stone, bronze tools are not capable of cutting it. Another video they show photoscanned vase, and the engineer is mind blown by extreme precision. This knowledge was lost for some reason, never repeated again in 5000 years.
@@artmaknev3738 I know the videos that you reference. The vase created in Russia was an example to show the basic methodology. She made and repaired her own tools and figured out ways to do it. Egyptians had generational experience and dedicated crews for this work. The recent scanned vase is from a channel devoted to making money by telling you that academics are unintelligent. Claims are presented without evidence. Modern engineers who seem to be surprised and awestruck are not of much use unless they have relevant knowledge of ancient stone working methods. If that channel could present evidence to show that computer aided machinery was required to construct the vase, then it would be proven to be a modern vase. Remember that they have a claims. 1) it is an ancient vase, 2) it was impossible to create by hand. There is no evidence for either claim.
@@johnmorgan5495 Yes John, the channel brought the puzzle to my attention. Very entertaining initially but it ignores the known science to make ludicrous assumptions. The making of the bowls is fairly straightforward but time consuming by todays standard Many weeks to produce 1 bowl ! Hard to imagine Demonstration of the techniques is online.
@@davepowell1661 I have looked at several of their presentations. They never attempt to recreate diorite bowls with walls thin enough to be translucent. I don't go with the aliens did it or the advanced civilization pre-dating the Egyptians, but I am dying to find out how they actually did this. Flinders Petri hypothesized they used a lathe with a tool tipped with diamond. What bothers me about "Scientists against myths" is they seem to begin with a conclusion about how these artifacts were made, and then look for evidence to support that conclusion. That is not a skeptical analysis.
@@johnmorgan5495 UnsupportedX is a sham designed to persuade people to reject knowledge, data and evidence in order to generate profit for a TH-cam channel.
Have you reviewed the dimensional inspection of some of these items done in reputable metrology labs? The handles of vases like the one she was holding seem to have a geometric tolerance rivaling modern mechanical components made from metals in our best 5 axis cnc machines. I think only a small portion of the population is NOT ignorant to these results which is the only reason this isn't seen as a huge discovery. The only logical reaction here from anyone who has ever been part of a modern team making similar components is... wtf.
@@williamheimsoth4156 Of course I have seen the entertainment channels promoting a mystery that only they could discover while scholars are ignorant and unwilling to open their minds. Basic level conspiracy strategy. They can't prove the authenticity of their objects and they make unfalsifiable claims. Scientists Against Myths showed a simple process, without the use of metal, how stones can be shaped by grinding. It was already obvious to most but they demonstrated anyways. Add generational experience and the guidance of masters and you get what we see in museums. Amazing quality pieces with visible imperfections.
@@team137 they found 40000 vases and other objects. The ones she showing are all granite. Sorry but the greatest pottery maker could not make those with copper tools
@@billstream1974 what if this founds are from a period far before from what we think they are? to me this items look as if the technology to make them is more advanced as we can imagine. I don't know if these items can be produced on modern CNC machines fore a price someone would spend to get them. Seems that, fore those who made them, it was not that complicated. so they made many of them with ease.
The ancient Egyptians were able to make them it would seem - there was great incentive - produce them for rich folk = nice income! Thousands of them have been found! Check out this video, really interesting - only ancient materials & techniques used!... th-cam.com/video/dC3Z_DBnCp8/w-d-xo.html
@@automaticmusicm if someone could replicate those items, we would have an idea of the the technology. but maybe our attempt could show similar results without being even close to the technology the original builders had. maybe the oldest pyramids are the best and those witch seemed to be worse in terms of construction or other qualitys, are made from people who simply tryed to replicate them.
Amazing how pompous she sounds when you realize she doesn't actually know, the best *interpretations* of archeologists parroted. Curiosity & Critical Thinking, these will bring down the dogmatic constructs.
@@w.loczykij5354 Why don't you commission an expert in ancient methods of stone vase making to make one for you. They still use the ancient methods in Luxor.
10 out of 10 for being able to pronounce vase correctly. I would have been interested if you could have measured the items and then shared the findings. These have very clearly been created using a lathe of some kind.
If you want to be fascinated by the best example of these vases, then take a search of that vase with a base tip that stands tangent to a horizontal surface. This vase has perfect weight distribution/symmetry, without which the vase would lean to one side and or tip over (especially when filled with say, water/items inside). The top tip is near perfectly flat, the inside hollowed out from the granite that it was made from and smooth. Speak to any craftsman/artist today and show them what "experts" think Ancient Egyptians had at their disposal, the craftsman/artists today would disagree with the purported theory.
Not so much have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay. Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event. Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years. That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”
Not so much have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay. Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event. Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years. That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”
KIDS MUST READ THIS , have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay. Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event. Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years. That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”
100%, looking at the tools they had it's a joke that they could make these, a skilled person would have trouble making these vases with power and turning tools today.
No clue that pi and fi are literally worked into every part of the design. The taller ones opening on top has a radieye of 1 in proportion to no less than 10 other precise measurements on the vase. When looking straight down on the tall the inner circle is exactly fi and the outer circle same lip is pi moving back to the center one side of the opening equals 1 moving directly across middle opening to other side. I can’t stress enough tholerances. In measuring are .0002 at most but no more than .005 thou
@@darklight2.1 Might want to brush up on Qvists analysis of the vase. He surely knows more about math than you. Radii formula is built into the vase with some 14 circles in a precise relationship. A radii relationship picked up by computer.
@@darklight2.1 yes Radians are present in every circle except that has nothing to do with Radial traversal pattern picked up by qvist in the vase. "All of the circles created with this function map to the actual radii of the FEATURES of the object with incredible precision"
Minimal radial deviation 3 microns Maximal radial deviation 68 microns mean radial deviation 16 microns median radial deviation is 9 microns Most radii (even those exhibiting local deviations above the mean) have areas that are, in any meaningful sense of the word, perfect. In many places the deviation is so small, that we cannot say with certain whether the deviation is due to "imperfections" of the object, or inaccuracies in the scan. All radii in the following illustration are generated by the R(n) function, and are there for tightly interrelated. " has nothing to do with seashells, and not a single spiral was shown in his report, 15 FEATURES of the vase showed radii correlation. you think you can just glue some words together and say "its been laughed off by everyone" Who has it been laughed off by? idiots subbed to world of antiquity ? The laugh came with the recent scans of the vases made by scientists against myths. You seen that stuff? oh boy.
@@darklight2.1 Nightscarab did a debunk video of the scan. He scanned a modern polished lathe turned granite vase without the handles, and it was inferior to the Egyptian one. Symmetry in surface disparity of the Chinese vase was worse than the Egyptian one. He literally posted the numbers. Hilariously. WITH NO HANDLES, the chinese vase was inferior. Anyone with half a brain should understand that thing is not handmade, nor made in the 60s with superior symmetry to a 2022 Vase without handles. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot with debunking. You know what's crazy. Is that the academic camp, has doubled down, tripled down, on the idea that nothing ever will be discovered or admitted to be advanced from our ancient past. Literally writing off all of archeology and saying "We already know everything and nothing will be dug up that will change our mind and accepted timeline of every culture, known or unknown" .... except the digging is ongoing, and independently funded research is ongoing. When new digs and new scans start getting posted in scientific journals and prove to be of advanced origin, we will witness the largest psychological destruction event in history. Career ending stuff really. World of Antiquity will start deleting his videos and his subs will scatter like cockroaches. Im crossing off days in my calendar. I'm just here for the popcorn. I'll be pushing the cockroach heads down with a stick as they try to grab on to the edge as they drown. See you around,
@@rosetaylor2808 The only tools I've ever seen are hand tools of bronze and copper. These vessels of hard stone could not have been made with such precision with these tools.
If we experienced a meteorite impact or super volcano eruption and our civilisation was sent back to the Stone Age, in 10000 years our steel buildings would be gone and our stone buildings left as buried ruins. After this time, if future archaeologists found these granite vases, they would attribute them to our 21st century civilisation or some later neo-Bronze Age civilisation between us and them. They would have no idea how old they truly are just as we have no idea of their exact age. We attribute them to the time period of the tombs and structures we found them in but that’s like attributing a collection of relics to the time period of the museum you found them in.
You are holding the what no one could recreate from the beginning! 35,000 of them found and they could only make sad copies! as well they made mud like lids for them it's that bad. People with brains would like to know how old and who really made them!
@@Eyes_Open what knowledge do you have in stone manufacturing or ancient stone manufacturing methods? What is your background... ? Please enlighten us ;)
@@Kitties-of-Doom Considering that you have failed with your commentary on multiple other channels discussing this topic, it does seem childish of you to rant here.
@@Eyes_Open lol so no knowledge? yet you preach here. Posted some blabber on every single comment under this clip. The great teacher with no knowledge in the field of stone manufacturing or ancient stone building methods.
@@Kitties-of-Doom The opening comment here was a strawman by someone who heard nonsense and believed it. Your personal nonsense has been dismantled countless times on multiple channels. Yet here you are again. The funny thing is that you can easily research papers, watch online demonstations and even do simple experiments in your home. But no, easier for you to rant for attention.
Now drill HA! What hardness of stone?! You need diamond to cut it.. engineers say, and as one who worked hard stone, Bronze Age technology could not possibly have done this.
Earlier than Bronze age. It is just not true that you need diamonds. That is easily proved. People today still use steel to carve granite. And abrasive cutting/grinding/polishing of stones doesn't necessarily require any metal.
these vases are in diorite and porphyry and the Egyptians did not have tools do do it , how did you date these object ?? , my guess they are from 18,000 years ago by unknown alien civilisation
yes i agree that nation called A"AD and they worship star sirius and mention in holy Quran and GOD punish them with big storme for 7 days and 8 nights and buired them in sand and they were giant 16 meter or more .
@@Eyes_Open you seem to not understand the technological level needed to achieve such extra difficult task in hard rock of at least 7 on Mohs scale and without leaving any traces after examining with geologist lens 15X
@@al2207 The technological level is simple in terms of available toolsets from that time period but involves high level of stone working skill and experience. Egyptians were involved in good quality stone working from at least 4000 BC. Grinding and polishing requires dedicated effort.
the cooling period alone would be in the thousands of years in order to properly freeze all the different stones within the granite and other types of igneous rock. "geopolymer" just means "unexplainable" lol
@@CONEHEADDK I have and they do not even come close to replicating the precision shown on these vases and jars. There is no doubt the stone can be worked in many ways, but have yet to see the precision replicated, or the obvious tool marks either. We have very little idea how and who made these.
@@seanveach950 But have they put "all thier life" and many many years of becoming the best they could become into those results? Nope. I do all kinds of creative stuff, and I'm usually one of the best at them (judged by others) but if I compare with the absolute best, that have done "only one thing" all their lives, I can se, there are small differences. And they can - I bet you - see, that their work "coooouuuld have been a bit better". Offer 10 million bucks to the person, who can do "the same" and some asian Venus Williams dads will shool their 3 year olds into being able to doit at 12...
@@roncasperson1312 No. Copper alloy tools were used where required. Abrasive techniques were used to create the vessels. Boring, grinding, polishing. Wood, bone, stone, metal, abrasives. Whole range of techniques.
And all stolen from Egypt just like the many looted Artefacts littering in our Great British Museum. We in the west we have no shame at all to hold looted Artefacts from other countries and explain with majesty how they were made. Even out great Queen has a looted Big Diamond called Kohinoor looted from India. 🤣😅😆😂. We are Great Britain😅🤣😆😁😂.
I know it’s great isn’t it. What shall we nick next? Present day Egyptians aren’t even the same race as ancient Egyptians so they sure don’t belong to them.
If you believe people made these without technology, you'll believe anything
Define your version of technology. A flaked chip of flint is an example of cutting technology. Using stone and abrasive grinding to shape other stones is also technology.
@@Eyes_Open Machinery. those are not made by hand.
@@tenebrafallen You can provide proof of that claim? You would be the first human to do so.
@@Eyes_Open I´m just a dude in a comment section so as you, don't ask me for proof, but doesn´t have to be a genius to see something odd is happening with those artifacts, an at least this people are doing something about it instead of just labeling and put them on display.
@@tenebrafallen So we should ignore Denys Stocks work from 30 years ago and the experiments shown on the Scientists Against Myths and Sacred Geometry Decoded channels? Those people actually performed work instead of just making negative claims.
apart from being here for the comment lols - you need to do some engineering homework. Even Petrie acknowledged and presented significant proof that these were turned on a lathe with an unknown cutting instrument. Those are probably shist (or andecite, or porphory) or other VERY hard, VERY brittle stones. It's also quite the conundrum that these only ever seem to be 'inherited' pieces from the predynastic or 1st/2nd dynasty - even the museum at Saqqara where over 40K of these were found acknowledge this. After this, they seem to have lost the ability to create these, although they tried to imitate them in alasbaster, a much softer stone (and with far less symmetrical and precise results). These are not the result of primitive tools - and nor I think the result of the dynastic civilization as we know it.
Uncharted x claiming someone needs to do engineering homework is just priceless.
Let me know when you’ll take up the livestream challenge and do those things you claim to be impossible in real time on camera for everyone to see.
You ask for the tests then run and hide.
Seeing you jump out the window to escape the Serapeum questions was priceless.
Anytime anywhere.
Maybe organise to have Christopher Dunn replicate his totally not faked granite experiment. I’m sure you could organise someone to take his place and operate the drill.
You should keep yourself to where you can censor and shadow ban.
Anytime, just let me know when you become a man.
Never a single provable piece of evidence in your comments. Petrie would be embarrassed to hear your references to his work. Perhaps you should switch occupations to become a chef. Your hand picked cherry pies would be world class.
@Eyes Open The two channels you mention do not actually do what ancient Egyptians supposedly did. SGD uses marble and not porphyry or granite to produce a stone bowl which is the same material Olga uses. As you know marble is a softer stone and easier to work which is why later civilisations used it. The tubular drill demonstration by S.A.Myths are using metal clamps to steady the wood which is torqued down, but the real problem I have with the copper tools cutting granite is that it doesn't appear to be an economical use of copper, especially the way it is used. The copper is ground down to an unrecoverable powder mixed into the slurry. Also how do you propose the egyptians fabricate long tubes, the one being used by SAM was a seamless water pipe extruded in a factory. While it is possible to forge an ignot around the die, that die is usually made of steel, forging copper on copper is challenging as the die gets deformed. If tube drills are consumed in large quantity on a building project they must be easy to make which suggests it maybe just a bent unjoined sheet but those cannot drill deep without flexing.
Eyes open have deleted my comments!!! Just put them up before and gone. So I've put it back
@@sandyzeatyahoo What a remarkable collection of wrongness. The Egyptians did make stone vessels of alabaster and marble. I also used the same tools on granite to drill and cut and so when i make a granite version i know it will work.
The metal clamps are what you object to? They even point out in the video just have someone stand on a bigger piece of wood to keep it from moving. Once the drill is down a few millimetres you don't need to guide anymore.
Copper is not ground down into an unrecoverable powder, it's in the slurry and you pan it out like gold dust. It's very recoverable.
How did they fabricate long tubes? Take a sheet of copper and roll it up. Have you seen their fine work with jewellery and weapons? But a tube you find difficult to understand?
The copper wears at a very slow rate. They are not consumed in large quantities.
I made my own pipes from 0.6 mm and 1.2mm annealed copper sheets. When you roll them up they are work hardened. SAM also cast a copper tube in a demo. They use the lost wax method and casting copper and other metals in sand and clay has been done from the very start of the copper age. They still use sand and clay moulds now for casting.
Who told you all this nonsense?
You should check out Uncharted X and his scientific study on the precision engineering of these stone vases !
You should understand the logical fallacies at the foundation of his claims.
@@Eyes_Open you can agree or disagree with his claims, but scientific studies have been done by professionals to the vases, and the results are there for everyone, and of a massive significance. videos like this one are ridiculous at this point.
@@tenebrafallen Scientific studies? Which scientific journal published the findings? Professionals with what relevant ancient stone working experience? Are the raw data available to all or just the processed STL file? Authenticity of vase origin? Any proof of the negative claims?
These were made before the Egyptians
Egyptian hieroglyphs demonstrate method
People have recreated this
Totally agree with Chris Romeo
That is a reasonable opinion if you completely reject science.
This is an insult to a great people. Look at the colossal statues of the Pharaohs, some carved of extreme hard stone; I suppose the Egyptians didn't make them either.
@@emmetsweeney9236 nope
Try explaining why the first ones made of very hard stones like granite, diorite etc are so much better and more impressive than those that were made after of alabaster a much softer stone and there seems to be a big sudden collapse in knowledge and skills of making them when they should have just kept getting better. Same with many other things in Egypt.
Try explaining your version of history without repeating what you heard from Alternative history leaders who twist truth for profit.
@@Eyes_Open The further back in time we go the more easily we can be wrong and that it’s good to take some alternative points of view into consideration because there has been people who were ridiculed for giving an alternative point of view when new discoveries decades later proved them right all along.
@@aaron6963 Science moves forward based on evidence. Not unsupported claims.
@@Eyes_Open Unsupported claims that could someday prove to be right all along if scientists try helping instead of ridiculing.
@@aaron6963 Claims need to be accompanied by some sort of usable data and a hypothesis that can be tested.
My copper chiseled granite vases did not turn out like this.
Demonstrations online
@@davepowell1661 Lost to history, I'm afraid. Scrap copper was recycled for gas money.
@@wuzgoanon9373 Copper? They didn't use metals just their brains , 'Scientists against myths'
Stay smart sharpwit
Why don’t you tell them the truth on how they were possible to be made without technology?
How were the Fatimid crystal vessels created 1000 years ago?
@@Eyes_Open Yes how was that possible?
@@InFltSvc Same abrasive principles. Slow process.
Funny how the ancient Greeks never claimed to invent the things they are given credit by the Europeans hundreds and thousands of years later. We now know that the ancient Egyptians knew about the math that the Greeks knew. Yet the Greeks and Romans never made vases as well as these that were made thousands of years earlier. Some of these vases would take a very high level of engineering knowledge and very precise machines to make them. Some people see pretty vases, but I see thousands of years of development to get to that point. I also have a machining degree, and that makes me even more impressed with these vases.
Such beautiful work, still stunning after 5000 years. I could listen to this young lady all day she is engrossing.
KIDS MUST READ THIS , have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati
First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay.
Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm
these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event.
Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel
It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage
In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years.
That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”
Very beautiful pieces
Hello, I wish they would stop saying osirus, lord of the Underworld. Osirus was green because the first time orion appeared each year , was springtime in egypt.He represented rebirth in nature, his brother set was the dark one of the family. Set represented what we now call Virgo, the first time Virgo appears is the beginning of autumn, the cold dark part of the year in Egypt.
Great, please why do you date them to 5,000 years ago ?
Isn't Andesite only workable with carborundum or even diamond dust ?
Pritty well done pre flood art in my opinion ... that should require much more attention
Abrasive drilling with quartz sand will work. Corundum dust is better. No metal required.
They are likely dated based on the tombs where they were found.
Not so much
have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati
First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay.
Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm
these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event.
Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel
It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage
In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years.
That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”
@@kalebgullan4157 There was no global reset due to a YD cataclysm. And there is nothing that could not be recreated today if there was a will and a budget. When someone asks "where are the tools", remember to tell them that they are already found in the archarological records.
@@Eyes_Open please do some research on engineering and machining before making such ignorant comments
Why does it feel like this 5000 year old technology was lost and those vases were never repeated in such advanced detail, and how can one explain 40,000 of those vases in Djoser pyramid?
300 years of pre-dynastic Egyptian stone working. Multiple teams of skilled workers working full time. Not so difficult to imagine that number.
@@Eyes_Open no man, its 0.1mm precision, there is a video on youtube how they tried to recreate this vase, took them 6 months and it looked awful, very bent edges and stuff. Those vases are made from extremely hard stone, bronze tools are not capable of cutting it. Another video they show photoscanned vase, and the engineer is mind blown by extreme precision. This knowledge was lost for some reason, never repeated again in 5000 years.
@@artmaknev3738 I know the videos that you reference. The vase created in Russia was an example to show the basic methodology. She made and repaired her own tools and figured out ways to do it. Egyptians had generational experience and dedicated crews for this work. The recent scanned vase is from a channel devoted to making money by telling you that academics are unintelligent. Claims are presented without evidence. Modern engineers who seem to be surprised and awestruck are not of much use unless they have relevant knowledge of ancient stone working methods. If that channel could present evidence to show that computer aided machinery was required to construct the vase, then it would be proven to be a modern vase. Remember that they have a claims. 1) it is an ancient vase, 2) it was impossible to create by hand. There is no evidence for either claim.
@@artmaknev3738 Newest video from Scientists Against Myths from 5 days ago: the result looks awsome.
@@Eyes_Open😂
Sure…hand drill.. do people still believe this nonsense? Unchartedx is good channel to educate yourself on this topic.
View Scientists against myths
@@davepowell1661 No , look at UnchartedX
@@johnmorgan5495 Yes John, the channel brought the puzzle to my attention. Very entertaining initially but it ignores the known science to make ludicrous assumptions. The making of the bowls is fairly straightforward but time consuming by todays standard
Many weeks to produce 1 bowl ! Hard to imagine
Demonstration of the techniques is online.
@@davepowell1661 I have looked at several of their presentations. They never attempt to recreate diorite bowls with walls thin enough to be translucent. I don't go with the aliens did it or the advanced civilization pre-dating the Egyptians, but I am dying to find out how they actually did this. Flinders Petri hypothesized they used a lathe with a tool tipped with diamond. What bothers me about "Scientists against myths" is they seem to begin with a conclusion about how these artifacts were made, and then look for evidence to support that conclusion. That is not a skeptical analysis.
@@johnmorgan5495 UnsupportedX is a sham designed to persuade people to reject knowledge, data and evidence in order to generate profit for a TH-cam channel.
Amazing to see people constantly supporting the lost technology grift in this comment section. Arguments from ignorance and incredulity.
It's quite incredible...
Have you reviewed the dimensional inspection of some of these items done in reputable metrology labs? The handles of vases like the one she was holding seem to have a geometric tolerance rivaling modern mechanical components made from metals in our best 5 axis cnc machines. I think only a small portion of the population is NOT ignorant to these results which is the only reason this isn't seen as a huge discovery. The only logical reaction here from anyone who has ever been part of a modern team making similar components is... wtf.
@@williamheimsoth4156 Of course I have seen the entertainment channels promoting a mystery that only they could discover while scholars are ignorant and unwilling to open their minds. Basic level conspiracy strategy. They can't prove the authenticity of their objects and they make unfalsifiable claims. Scientists Against Myths showed a simple process, without the use of metal, how stones can be shaped by grinding. It was already obvious to most but they demonstrated anyways. Add generational experience and the guidance of masters and you get what we see in museums. Amazing quality pieces with visible imperfections.
First comment. The EGYPTIANS DID NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO MAKE THESE ITEMS.
....and no one can be sure how old this items are
@@team137 they found 40000 vases and other objects. The ones she showing are all granite. Sorry but the greatest pottery maker could not make those with copper tools
@@billstream1974 what if this founds are from a period far before from what we think they are? to me this items look as if the technology to make them is more advanced as we can imagine.
I don't know if these items can be produced on modern CNC machines fore a price someone would spend to get them.
Seems that, fore those who made them, it was not that complicated. so they made many of them with ease.
The ancient Egyptians were able to make them it would seem - there was great incentive - produce them for rich folk = nice income! Thousands of them have been found!
Check out this video, really interesting - only ancient materials & techniques used!... th-cam.com/video/dC3Z_DBnCp8/w-d-xo.html
@@automaticmusicm if someone could replicate those items, we would have an idea of the the technology. but maybe our attempt could show similar results without being even close to the technology the original builders had.
maybe the oldest pyramids are the best and those witch seemed to be worse in terms of construction or other qualitys, are made from people who simply tryed to replicate them.
Amazing how pompous she sounds when you realize she doesn't actually know, the best *interpretations* of archeologists parroted.
Curiosity & Critical Thinking, these will bring down the dogmatic constructs.
Why do folks from the unsupported Alternative view call other people pompous?
@Altriex
Well she is "parroting" what we have evidence for. How do you believe they were made and what is your evidence?
@@Leeside999
If they were mada as she says they were - lets make one.
I mean it's not like asking to build a pyramid.
@@w.loczykij5354 Why don't you commission an expert in ancient methods of stone vase making to make one for you. They still use the ancient methods in Luxor.
10 out of 10 for being able to pronounce vase correctly. I would have been interested if you could have measured the items and then shared the findings. These have very clearly been created using a lathe of some kind.
If you want to be fascinated by the best example of these vases, then take a search of that vase with a base tip that stands tangent to a horizontal surface. This vase has perfect weight distribution/symmetry, without which the vase would lean to one side and or tip over (especially when filled with say, water/items inside). The top tip is near perfectly flat, the inside hollowed out from the granite that it was made from and smooth. Speak to any craftsman/artist today and show them what "experts" think Ancient Egyptians had at their disposal, the craftsman/artists today would disagree with the purported theory.
Egyptians made this y'all just jealous
.....what are you talking? Just try to make such a vase with a bow drill, it will not work, but you say it as if it were a fact.
Scientists Against Myths channel shows an example. No metal required.
What is amazing are the ear lugs. These cannot remain while the body is turned on a lathe.
Why not? Many people repeat that claim which is obviously false.
Great video and presentation, cool information, will check out your other videos.
Not so much
have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati
First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay.
Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm
these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event.
Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel
It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage
In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years.
That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”
Great presentation Charis.
Not so much
have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati
First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay.
Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm
these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event.
Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel
It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage
In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years.
That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”
… not mono-chrome, they are bi-colored 😏
If we're splitting hairs here ... neither black nor white are colours.
KIDS MUST READ THIS , have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati
First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay.
Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm
these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event.
Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel
It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage
In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years.
That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”
th-cam.com/video/dC3Z_DBnCp8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ScientistsAgainstMyths seems like this lady debunks you
100%, looking at the tools they had it's a joke that they could make these, a skilled person would have trouble making these vases with power and turning tools today.
When I see a modern copy using copper tools and Sand I'll believe this
Scientists against myths channel show a more complex bowl made
No metal
@@davepowell1661 They do not show a diorite bowl with walls so thin they are translucent.
@@gbennett58 Ridiculous argument. Regardless, they are working on diorite vessel as well.
Pre-pharaonic...Who did it? That is high tech..
No clue that pi and fi are literally worked into every part of the design. The taller ones opening on top has a radieye of 1 in proportion to no less than 10 other precise measurements on the vase. When looking straight down on the tall the inner circle is exactly fi and the outer circle same lip is pi moving back to the center one side of the opening equals 1 moving directly across middle opening to other side. I can’t stress enough tholerances. In measuring are .0002 at most but no more than .005 thou
@@darklight2.1 Might want to brush up on Qvists analysis of the vase. He surely knows more about math than you. Radii formula is built into the vase with some 14 circles in a precise relationship. A radii relationship picked up by computer.
@@darklight2.1 yes Radians are present in every circle except that has nothing to do with Radial traversal pattern picked up by qvist in the vase.
"All of the circles created with this function map to the actual radii of the FEATURES of the object with incredible precision"
Minimal radial deviation 3 microns
Maximal radial deviation 68 microns
mean radial deviation 16 microns
median radial deviation is 9 microns
Most radii (even those exhibiting local deviations above the mean) have areas that are, in any meaningful sense of the word, perfect. In many places the deviation is so small, that we cannot say with certain whether the deviation is due to "imperfections" of the object, or inaccuracies in the scan. All radii in the following illustration are generated by the R(n) function, and are there for tightly interrelated. "
has nothing to do with seashells, and not a single spiral was shown in his report, 15 FEATURES of the vase showed radii correlation.
you think you can just glue some words together and say "its been laughed off by everyone" Who has it been laughed off by? idiots subbed to world of antiquity ?
The laugh came with the recent scans of the vases made by scientists against myths. You seen that stuff? oh boy.
@@darklight2.1 Nightscarab did a debunk video of the scan. He scanned a modern polished lathe turned granite vase without the handles, and it was inferior to the Egyptian one. Symmetry in surface disparity of the Chinese vase was worse than the Egyptian one. He literally posted the numbers. Hilariously. WITH NO HANDLES, the chinese vase was inferior. Anyone with half a brain should understand that thing is not handmade, nor made in the 60s with superior symmetry to a 2022 Vase without handles. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot with debunking.
You know what's crazy. Is that the academic camp, has doubled down, tripled down, on the idea that nothing ever will be discovered or admitted to be advanced from our ancient past. Literally writing off all of archeology and saying "We already know everything and nothing will be dug up that will change our mind and accepted timeline of every culture, known or unknown" .... except the digging is ongoing, and independently funded research is ongoing. When new digs and new scans start getting posted in scientific journals and prove to be of advanced origin, we will witness the largest psychological destruction event in history. Career ending stuff really. World of Antiquity will start deleting his videos and his subs will scatter like cockroaches. Im crossing off days in my calendar. I'm just here for the popcorn. I'll be pushing the cockroach heads down with a stick as they try to grab on to the edge as they drown.
See you around,
Where are the tools that would have been required to make these objects?
The tools are well documented from excavations and exist now in museums and galleries.
@@rosetaylor2808 The only tools I've ever seen are hand tools of bronze and copper. These vessels of hard stone could not have been made with such precision with these tools.
Spread all over Egypt; rocks
If we experienced a meteorite impact or super volcano eruption and our civilisation was sent back to the Stone Age, in 10000 years our steel buildings would be gone and our stone buildings left as buried ruins. After this time, if future archaeologists found these granite vases, they would attribute them to our 21st century civilisation or some later neo-Bronze Age civilisation between us and them. They would have no idea how old they truly are just as we have no idea of their exact age. We attribute them to the time period of the tombs and structures we found them in but that’s like attributing a collection of relics to the time period of the museum you found them in.
Are you suggesting that we completely ignore contextual evidence and instead believe in an imagined reality for which there is zero evidence?
@@Eyes_Open you do not know what you are talking about
@@al2207 I know that reality confuses some folks.
no explanation how were the vases made, the process? they didnt know the wheel?
They did know the wheel.
of course they had wheels. Pharaos runs with chariots.
You are holding the what no one could recreate from the beginning! 35,000 of them found and they could only make sad copies! as well they made mud like lids for them it's that bad. People with brains would like to know how old and who really made them!
Over 35000 found and the majority were shallow bowls and dishes made from alabaster.
No problem, all you need is a pounding stone & a piece of flint... apparently!
Your strawman demonstrates a complete lack of topical knowledge.
@@Eyes_Open what knowledge do you have in stone manufacturing or ancient stone manufacturing methods? What is your background... ? Please enlighten us ;)
@@Kitties-of-Doom Considering that you have failed with your commentary on multiple other channels discussing this topic, it does seem childish of you to rant here.
@@Eyes_Open lol so no knowledge? yet you preach here. Posted some blabber on every single comment under this clip. The great teacher with no knowledge in the field of stone manufacturing or ancient stone building methods.
@@Kitties-of-Doom The opening comment here was a strawman by someone who heard nonsense and believed it. Your personal nonsense has been dismantled countless times on multiple channels. Yet here you are again. The funny thing is that you can easily research papers, watch online demonstations and even do simple experiments in your home. But no, easier for you to rant for attention.
Now drill HA! What hardness of stone?! You need diamond to cut it.. engineers say, and as one who worked hard stone, Bronze Age technology could not possibly have done this.
Earlier than Bronze age. It is just not true that you need diamonds. That is easily proved. People today still use steel to carve granite. And abrasive cutting/grinding/polishing of stones doesn't necessarily require any metal.
You do not need diamond to cut these stones ya goof
th-cam.com/video/dC3Z_DBnCp8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ScientistsAgainstMyths this lady did it without steel tools
how are they made?
Lapidary techniques. Grinding and polishing.
2:13 It should have wine in it when you move it like this ☺️
Haha, hand drill
these vases are in diorite and porphyry and the Egyptians did not have tools do do it , how did you date these object ?? , my guess they are from 18,000 years ago by unknown alien civilisation
yes i agree that nation called A"AD and they worship star sirius and mention in holy Quran and GOD punish them with big storme for 7 days and 8 nights and buired them in sand and they were giant 16 meter or more .
A lack of understanding of stone working technology is not a valid excuse to invoke fantastical origins.
@@Eyes_Open you seem to not understand the technological level needed to achieve such extra difficult task in hard rock of at least 7 on Mohs scale and without leaving any traces after examining with geologist lens 15X
@@al2207 The technological level is simple in terms of available toolsets from that time period but involves high level of stone working skill and experience. Egyptians were involved in good quality stone working from at least 4000 BC. Grinding and polishing requires dedicated effort.
@@Eyes_Open never work with your hands in hard stone ??
otherwise … 👍🏻
not carved..
casted from geopolymer
the cooling period alone would be in the thousands of years in order to properly freeze all the different stones within the granite and other types of igneous rock. "geopolymer" just means "unexplainable" lol
Geo?what now. Come on, you can see these have pieces of different stone in them.
Scientists against myths - watch and learn..
@@CONEHEADDK I have and they do not even come close to replicating the precision shown on these vases and jars. There is no doubt the stone can be worked in many ways, but have yet to see the precision replicated, or the obvious tool marks either. We have very little idea how and who made these.
@@seanveach950 But have they put "all thier life" and many many years of becoming the best they could become into those results? Nope. I do all kinds of creative stuff, and I'm usually one of the best at them (judged by others) but if I compare with the absolute best, that have done "only one thing" all their lives, I can se, there are small differences. And they can - I bet you - see, that their work "coooouuuld have been a bit better". Offer 10 million bucks to the person, who can do "the same" and some asian Venus Williams dads will shool their 3 year olds into being able to doit at 12...
Lapidary
Copper Chisels.
Why do alternative believers think that copper chisels were used to create these vessels? Toolmarks clearly show an abrasive grinding process.
@@Eyes_Open It was sarcasm my friend. Ofcourse, copper chisels were not used.
@@zmarssojourner7435 Fair enough. Cheers.
Right. And they did all that with copper chisels?come on!!!
No they did not do it with copper chisels. Nobody suggests that they did. Only certain types of people use that term endlessly.
@@Eyes_Open aaa, yes they do!!!
@@roncasperson1312 No. Copper alloy tools were used where required. Abrasive techniques were used to create the vessels. Boring, grinding, polishing. Wood, bone, stone, metal, abrasives. Whole range of techniques.
And all stolen from Egypt just like the many looted Artefacts littering in our Great British Museum. We in the west we have no shame at all to hold looted Artefacts from other countries and explain with majesty how they were made. Even out great Queen has a looted Big Diamond called Kohinoor looted from India. 🤣😅😆😂. We are Great Britain😅🤣😆😁😂.
I know it’s great isn’t it. What shall we nick next? Present day Egyptians aren’t even the same race as ancient Egyptians so they sure don’t belong to them.
@@kickpublishingsource trust me bro