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Great confirmation bias. Well done. Who needs learning when unsupported claims are available for free.

Repeating nonsense claims that you heard on entertainment channels is not the way to accrue credibility.

Thanks for demonstrating topical ignorance.

@Eyes_Open Then fucking do it and show me I'm wrong.

@@Eyes_Open Then make one and show me I'm wrong. This is easy, right? I'll buy you a chunk of granite and you can go prove how smart you are with a bronze chisel, pounding stones and sand abrasion.

@@MrTL3wis You are offering to pay for a full project? Your logic is missing.

@@Eyes_Open I'm offering to pay for a block of granite. You just have to make a vase for me in the way you say they were made or give me $10000 cash if it doesn't duplicate the Egyptian ones. How much confidence do you have in your bronze chisel, Cupcake?

_"We model them as buttflap toting primitives barely surpassing simple primates"_ Tell me you know nothing about ancient Egyptian history other than what UnchartedX has told you, without telling me you know nothing about ancient Egyptian history other than what UnchartedX has told you.

@@Leeside999 I'm pretty sure some guy on youtube in recent memory didn't coin the term butt flap or primate. Come on at least try.

@@CoffeeFiend1 in the context of the ancient Egyptian history, yes, there is one main guy who repeats that phrase which happens to fit with everything else you wrote.

@@Leeside999 One guy in the context of Egyptian history? Can you actually hear yourself?

@@CoffeeFiend1 you've never watched an unchartedx video?

If you can make a vase in clay in 15 minutes, isn't pointless to make one in granite in 3 months.

@@davidtop6242 This comment makes no sense. Have you ever used a lathe or potting wheel? You don't make clay vases by removing hard rock. The granite vases would be made on something closer to a metal lathe.

You don't think the Romans made granite vases? Ignorance is bliss as they say.

@@Eyes_Open Why would you say that? I never said they didn't. The Egyptians obviously made them before the Romans.

@@robbsclassics You said the Romans did not make them as well as the Egyptians. Why say that?

It's quite incredible...

Have you reviewed the dimensional inspection of some of these items done in reputable metrology labs? The handles of vases like the one she was holding seem to have a geometric tolerance rivaling modern mechanical components made from metals in our best 5 axis cnc machines. I think only a small portion of the population is NOT ignorant to these results which is the only reason this isn't seen as a huge discovery. The only logical reaction here from anyone who has ever been part of a modern team making similar components is... wtf.

​@@williamheimsoth4156 Of course I have seen the entertainment channels promoting a mystery that only they could discover while scholars are ignorant and unwilling to open their minds. Basic level conspiracy strategy. They can't prove the authenticity of their objects and they make unfalsifiable claims. Scientists Against Myths showed a simple process, without the use of metal, how stones can be shaped by grinding. It was already obvious to most but they demonstrated anyways. Add generational experience and the guidance of masters and you get what we see in museums. Amazing quality pieces with visible imperfections.

Apparently it should be easy to prove the grifters wrong, just get your bow drill out and a block of granite.

@@staticgrass Consider that this topic has been studied by experts. No actual physical demonstration is required after comprehending the issue. Now consider that experiments have been performed. Then consider that you can see the most recent experiments on the Scientists Against Myths channel.

Lapidary techniques. Grinding and polishing.

Over 35000 found and the majority were shallow bowls and dishes made from alabaster.

Why not? Many people repeat that claim which is obviously false.

You just turn the shape including them then carve them out...

The tools are well documented from excavations and exist now in museums and galleries.

@@rosetaylor2808 The only tools I've ever seen are hand tools of bronze and copper. These vessels of hard stone could not have been made with such precision with these tools.

Spread all over Egypt; rocks

They did know the wheel.

of course they had wheels. Pharaos runs with chariots.

You should understand the logical fallacies at the foundation of his claims.

@@Eyes_Open you can agree or disagree with his claims, but scientific studies have been done by professionals to the vases, and the results are there for everyone, and of a massive significance. videos like this one are ridiculous at this point.

@@tenebrafallen Scientific studies? Which scientific journal published the findings? Professionals with what relevant ancient stone working experience? Are the raw data available to all or just the processed STL file? Authenticity of vase origin? Any proof of the negative claims?

Don't trust that grifter

Your strawman demonstrates a complete lack of topical knowledge.

@@Eyes_Open what knowledge do you have in stone manufacturing or ancient stone manufacturing methods? What is your background... ? Please enlighten us ;)

@@Kitties-of-Doom Considering that you have failed with your commentary on multiple other channels discussing this topic, it does seem childish of you to rant here.

@@Eyes_Open lol so no knowledge? yet you preach here. Posted some blabber on every single comment under this clip. The great teacher with no knowledge in the field of stone manufacturing or ancient stone building methods.

@@Kitties-of-Doom The opening comment here was a strawman by someone who heard nonsense and believed it. Your personal nonsense has been dismantled countless times on multiple channels. Yet here you are again. The funny thing is that you can easily research papers, watch online demonstations and even do simple experiments in your home. But no, easier for you to rant for attention.

@@darklight2.1 Might want to brush up on Qvists analysis of the vase. He surely knows more about math than you. Radii formula is built into the vase with some 14 circles in a precise relationship. A radii relationship picked up by computer.

@@darklight2.1 yes Radians are present in every circle except that has nothing to do with Radial traversal pattern picked up by qvist in the vase. "All of the circles created with this function map to the actual radii of the FEATURES of the object with incredible precision" Minimal radial deviation 3 microns Maximal radial deviation 68 microns mean radial deviation 16 microns median radial deviation is 9 microns Most radii (even those exhibiting local deviations above the mean) have areas that are, in any meaningful sense of the word, perfect. In many places the deviation is so small, that we cannot say with certain whether the deviation is due to "imperfections" of the object, or inaccuracies in the scan. All radii in the following illustration are generated by the R(n) function, and are there for tightly interrelated. " has nothing to do with seashells, and not a single spiral was shown in his report, 15 FEATURES of the vase showed radii correlation. you think you can just glue some words together and say "its been laughed off by everyone" Who has it been laughed off by? idiots subbed to world of antiquity ? The laugh came with the recent scans of the vases made by scientists against myths. You seen that stuff? oh boy.

@@darklight2.1 Nightscarab did a debunk video of the scan. He scanned a modern polished lathe turned granite vase without the handles, and it was inferior to the Egyptian one. Symmetry in surface disparity of the Chinese vase was worse than the Egyptian one. He literally posted the numbers. Hilariously. WITH NO HANDLES, the chinese vase was inferior. Anyone with half a brain should understand that thing is not handmade, nor made in the 60s with superior symmetry to a 2022 Vase without handles. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot with debunking. You know what's crazy. Is that the academic camp, has doubled down, tripled down, on the idea that nothing ever will be discovered or admitted to be advanced from our ancient past. Literally writing off all of archeology and saying "We already know everything and nothing will be dug up that will change our mind and accepted timeline of every culture, known or unknown" .... except the digging is ongoing, and independently funded research is ongoing. When new digs and new scans start getting posted in scientific journals and prove to be of advanced origin, we will witness the largest psychological destruction event in history. Career ending stuff really. World of Antiquity will start deleting his videos and his subs will scatter like cockroaches. Im crossing off days in my calendar. I'm just here for the popcorn. I'll be pushing the cockroach heads down with a stick as they try to grab on to the edge as they drown. See you around,

That is a completely irrational comment.

Sorry but this is a reality based channel.

Define your version of technology. A flaked chip of flint is an example of cutting technology. Using stone and abrasive grinding to shape other stones is also technology.

@@Eyes_Open Machinery. those are not made by hand.

@@tenebrafallen You can provide proof of that claim? You would be the first human to do so.

@@Eyes_Open I´m just a dude in a comment section so as you, don't ask me for proof, but doesn´t have to be a genius to see something odd is happening with those artifacts, an at least this people are doing something about it instead of just labeling and put them on display.

@@tenebrafallen So we should ignore Denys Stocks work from 30 years ago and the experiments shown on the Scientists Against Myths and Sacred Geometry Decoded channels? Those people actually performed work instead of just making negative claims.

Are you suggesting that we completely ignore contextual evidence and instead believe in an imagined reality for which there is zero evidence?

@@Eyes_Open you do not know what you are talking about

@@al2207 I know that reality confuses some folks.

300 years of pre-dynastic Egyptian stone working. Multiple teams of skilled workers working full time. Not so difficult to imagine that number.

@@Eyes_Open no man, its 0.1mm precision, there is a video on youtube how they tried to recreate this vase, took them 6 months and it looked awful, very bent edges and stuff. Those vases are made from extremely hard stone, bronze tools are not capable of cutting it. Another video they show photoscanned vase, and the engineer is mind blown by extreme precision. This knowledge was lost for some reason, never repeated again in 5000 years.

@@artmaknev3738 I know the videos that you reference. The vase created in Russia was an example to show the basic methodology. She made and repaired her own tools and figured out ways to do it. Egyptians had generational experience and dedicated crews for this work. The recent scanned vase is from a channel devoted to making money by telling you that academics are unintelligent. Claims are presented without evidence. Modern engineers who seem to be surprised and awestruck are not of much use unless they have relevant knowledge of ancient stone working methods. If that channel could present evidence to show that computer aided machinery was required to construct the vase, then it would be proven to be a modern vase. Remember that they have a claims. 1) it is an ancient vase, 2) it was impossible to create by hand. There is no evidence for either claim.

​@@artmaknev3738 Newest video from Scientists Against Myths from 5 days ago: the result looks awsome.

@@Eyes_Open😂

Try explaining your version of history without repeating what you heard from Alternative history leaders who twist truth for profit.

@@Eyes_Open The further back in time we go the more easily we can be wrong and that it’s good to take some alternative points of view into consideration because there has been people who were ridiculed for giving an alternative point of view when new discoveries decades later proved them right all along.

@@aaron6963 Science moves forward based on evidence. Not unsupported claims.

@@Eyes_Open Unsupported claims that could someday prove to be right all along if scientists try helping instead of ridiculing.

@@aaron6963 Claims need to be accompanied by some sort of usable data and a hypothesis that can be tested.

Poe's Law

Why do alternative believers think that copper chisels were used to create these vessels? Toolmarks clearly show an abrasive grinding process.

@@Eyes_Open It was sarcasm my friend. Ofcourse, copper chisels were not used.

@@zmarssojourner7435 Fair enough. Cheers.

th-cam.com/video/dC3Z_DBnCp8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ScientistsAgainstMyths seems like this lady debunks you

100%, looking at the tools they had it's a joke that they could make these, a skilled person would have trouble making these vases with power and turning tools today.

Why do folks from the unsupported Alternative view call other people pompous?

@Altriex Well she is "parroting" what we have evidence for. How do you believe they were made and what is your evidence?

​@@Leeside999 If they were mada as she says they were - lets make one. I mean it's not like asking to build a pyramid.

@@w.loczykij5354 Why don't you commission an expert in ancient methods of stone vase making to make one for you. They still use the ancient methods in Luxor.

Abrasive drilling with quartz sand will work. Corundum dust is better. No metal required.

They are likely dated based on the tombs where they were found.

Not so much have you seen the dynastic vases.. they’re like a Honda Civic next to a Maserati First they tried to smash out a rough shape with rocks and steel chisels, but that would’ve taken at least a few months for one person to complete one wonky stone vase.. then they gave up all together and just made them from clay and painted fake marbling and granite effects onto the clay. Clearly these are from pre history/ pre younger dryas cataclysm ​ these pots and all the other amazing constructions around the world that we can’t even replicate today.. are minimum 12,500 years old / and that’s if they were just built right before the younger dryas cataclysm reset the planet. Likely most these items were already finished centuries or Millenia before this event. Also look up how long iron can last, but let’s pretend they were using 316 stainless steel It is estimated to last for 1200 years before heavy rust/ damage In the marine environment this is reduced to a mere 260 years. That explains how it’s impossible for the tools to even be here, don’t forget that the cataclysm included global flooding.. salt 🤷‍♂️. Oh and also copper , gold and silver are very soft and make terrible tools.. but they don’t contain more than 1-2 ish % iron.. so they pretty much last forever.. that’s why they’re the only tools we see.. remember that when people bring up “WHERE ARE THE TOOLS? 🤪”

@@kalebgullan4157 There was no global reset due to a YD cataclysm. And there is nothing that could not be recreated today if there was a will and a budget. When someone asks "where are the tools", remember to tell them that they are already found in the archarological records.

@@Eyes_Open please do some research on engineering and machining before making such ignorant comments

Why did you jump from the wooden mallet to shaping large blocks?

@@Eyes_Open Have you seen Egypt? You should change your name bro. I only watched this video because the chick is kinda cute.

@@davidallard1980 She did not all say Egypt was built with that wooden mallet. Studies have been performed. Dolerite hammers combined with fire setting is effective for breaking apart granite in the quarries. Flint cuts granite and is found as a tool in the archaeological records throughout Egyptian history. Abrasives were used as a cutting agent for copper alloy saws and tube drills. The attractive speaker knows this I am sure. Why do you make comments if you do not?

@@Eyes_Open I don't even think that's a hammer bro. Look at at. Some ancient dude couldn't find his hammer, and grabbed a random tool, like I do. I usually use a big wrench or something, but that's a spool.. For sure. Then some archaeologist found it, saw it had hammer marks on it, and labeled it a hammer even though it isn't one. Then I saw a cute chick playing with tools, and wanted to watch the video. Its not complicated.

@@davidallard1980 I also grab the nearest object for hammering. However, this example is a mallet of a type used by Egyptian masons and carpenters.

Earlier than Bronze age. It is just not true that you need diamonds. That is easily proved. People today still use steel to carve granite. And abrasive cutting/grinding/polishing of stones doesn't necessarily require any metal.

You do not need diamond to cut these stones ya goof

th-cam.com/video/dC3Z_DBnCp8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ScientistsAgainstMyths this lady did it without steel tools

Thank you! What a nice comment to start off our New Year.